1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions in indication didn't notice I'm not broke. 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: what he likes to share. Now it's time to hear 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here we come. 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald. 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success. 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: For some in suscisable paycheck. Mine is helping people wake 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: up and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: their very best life. These are my passion. That's what 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to do for you. That's why I created 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation dot com. I want you to stop 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: tripping over small challenges and prepare to rise above the 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: bigger obstacles in life. Will present to you. My next 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: guest is Dr Nicola Beach. She is president and CEO 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: of Volition Enterprises Incorporated, a premier organizational development or o 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: D firm specializing in the areas of coaching, training, change management, diversity, 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: equity and inclusion. She is the host. She is not 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: only the host of that, She's now a host of 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: a new relationship show called Put a Ring On It, 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: which you may known from that fantastic song that Beyonce 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: had several years ago, put a Ring On It. Put 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: the Ring on It show follows three longtime couples with 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: help from Dr Nicola Beach, who embarked on the Ultimate 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: relationship Test. From week to week, the couples are pushed 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: outside their comfort zones, the comfort to confront the question 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: they've been afraid to ask. Is there happy? Is there 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: really happiness? Ever after? I don't know. We'll find out. 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: That's why I got on the show. Dr Nicola beach 33 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 1: wisdom has inspired the audiences of Essence Magazine, The Steve 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Harvey Morning Show, T D. Jake's audiences, all these different 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: things rolling out in magazine, CBS Radio. Please welcome to 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation. I'm gonna call my friend. She's into 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: the relationship business now. Dr the Cold Little Beach, Hello, 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: that you well, I need to ask how you you 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: know you are in the relationship business in the middle 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: of a pandemic. All I know is I will not 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: want to be single right now. People wearing masks you 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: don't know, you know talking about you can have it. 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: You might have me making love and get the COVID ninty. 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: You kiss, you get the COVID n Holding the hands, 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: you get the COVID naty. I don't know if his 46 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: relationship is a dead thing. What is the new way technology? 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: The way you you? You you see somebody online and 48 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: just marry them? What you do? What you can't hold hands? No, 49 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: that's not that's not it. Please don't see them. Aline 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: then you'll be asking me how to help. I can't 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: happen that you do. But you know, first of all, 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: list a delight to be here with you you. Um, 53 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: you are so wonderful and inspiring and um you might 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: not remember Roushawn, but you actually helped me um when 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: I first came on the Steve Harvey Morning Show. So 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: just a little blast from the past of gratitude because 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: your footprint and presence has been so big over the years. 58 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: So I absolutely thank you for that. I believe you 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: have to thank people who helped you along the way. 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: So you know now that I'm I'm in this relationship space, 61 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: UM and hosting this show, must we never forget We 62 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 1: must never forget, um, those who came and helped to 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: create the narrative. The thing about that is that I 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: appreciate you saying that, but uh, when I hear that 65 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: a lot from people, and just like you're talented, and 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: I've always been a person that you know, it wasn't 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: risky for me to give anybody an opportunity that I 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: felt was solidly I had a solid understanding of their capabilities. 69 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: And I always felt you had a solid understanding of 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: your capabilities. Plus you because blood people, they're passionate about something. 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: But then it does that passion translate to, uh, the 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: ability to succeed in it? And you always felt was 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the was the one and uh, and so it's it's 74 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: fun when I when I see that, and and I do, 75 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: and I've done it a lot in my life. Just uh, 76 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: just trust in my natural instincts. Do Nicole? Is that 77 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: when you when people say that to me, I go yeah, 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: And it doesn't really it doesn't really pop back in 79 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: my brain until somebody reminds like, oh yeah, remember yeah, 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: because usually when you I know, how large the brand 81 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: of Steve Harvey isn't large because I was there and 82 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: I built it with him, And so when people were 83 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: introduced to that massive audience, it really really did set 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: set motion a major change, and you were in a 85 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: position to take advantage of it. Well, I appreciate it, 86 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: I do. And you know, this is a really exciting time. Um, 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: though it is a crazy time, right you You said 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: it best. With everything that's happening with COVID, It's like 89 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: people are like, God, how do you date? What do 90 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: you do? And I say, you know, Um, this COVID 91 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: experience is really creating some boundaries that slow things down 92 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: in a way that many of us probably would have 93 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: benefited from if we were using some of these boundaries 94 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: before COVID in how we were dating, right, agree, because 95 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: slowing right, slowing things down. Um, what I say is, 96 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, dating is about collecting data, and when you 97 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: slow things down, you get to really collect enough data 98 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: to see are you dating a representative or are you 99 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: dating a full person? So what COVID is now done, 100 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: it's forced people to take the time to do the 101 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: due diligence of conversation and um being cautiously um connected 102 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: so that they can have enough time to see who 103 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: they're really dating. And that's really important, and I are 104 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 1: one of the most popular lines of Steve Harvey's first book, 105 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: Act Like Lately, Think like a Man was the naty 106 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: day rule, And basically that's what you're saying and collecting 107 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: data and being able to sit back and not immediately 108 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: jump into a sexual relationship with a person, understand, or 109 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: do they like your kids that don't like your kids? 110 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: Do it like you did like the food you eat 111 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: that naty day period And and it translated to a 112 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: major reason why that book was so successful, And you're 113 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: saying the same thing here. The pandemic has slowed down 114 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: quickly maybe quickly jumping into bed with each other and 115 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: also really identifying the lifestyle of that person that you 116 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: may want a relationship with, or how are they where 117 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: do they live, or do they take care of themselves physically? 118 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: All these things, well, some of the processes that were skipped, 119 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: they're now being looked at in a different manner. And 120 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: also because of mask, you know, you can't exactly see 121 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: who you're who you're trying to create relationship right off, 122 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: and so you really need to get to know the 123 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: person a lot more. And that also leads to longtime relationships. 124 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: So those values talking of the pandemic is not a 125 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: good thing. We don't want to be in it for 126 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: form a relationship standpoint. It is forcing us to look 127 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: at the person and not just the physical or object. Yeah, 128 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: and how do they you know, how do they handle 129 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: their every day? You know, have things appropriately changed for 130 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: them as it should? Right? So even things like if 131 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: they haven't skipped to beat, then that tells you something 132 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: because in this health crisis, you should be skipping something right, 133 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, ain't that wrong with it? 134 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Let's go no social distance and just doing it right exactly. 135 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: So if they're not skipping nothing, if they're still driving, 136 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, a hundred and fifty miles an hour in 137 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: their imaginary cars on you know, on the road that's 138 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: column for forty five, then then all of that information 139 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: is saying to you, okay, is this is how they're 140 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: leading their life in this dynamic? Um it is really 141 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: the match made in heaven, you know. So it's not 142 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: a good thing. I agree with you. Lots of lost, 143 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: lots of compassion um for what we're all experiencing, but 144 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: it is pushing people to be a whole lot more 145 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: responsible with their heart and with their safety. And that 146 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: really that's what it all comes down to, is the relationship, 147 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: the essence of it. So when I look at your firm, 148 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: you know you're the presidency or relation enterprises of Premier 149 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: organizational development. The term that the one thing that pops 150 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: out to me is the word diversity because we've seen 151 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: doing this endemic run, especially with the death of murder 152 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: of George Floyd and Minnesota, that the push for diversity 153 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: has been a huge calling card. You know, that's probably 154 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Kamala Harris was chosen as 155 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: the vice president elect on the ticket for Joe Biden. 156 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: Was been tied to diversity. I see I see women 157 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: being elevated. I see men getting deals they didn't getting deal. 158 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: You know, the president of Free Farm, she's female ABC. 159 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: You know digital all, there's a lot of African Americans 160 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: who are ascending the latter and that word diversity really 161 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: pops out. So during this time, how has the word 162 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: how have you? I wouldn't say the word benefit how 163 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: have you gotten calls to assist and an enhancing diversity platform? 164 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: Talk about it over. How has been different for the 165 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: term diversity in the corporate and entertainment world. Oh yeah, 166 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, my business partner and I, Crystal Khalil. 167 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: I talked about her as well as my own journey. 168 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: You know, when I was in the corporate arena, I 169 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: was in senior leadership UM for News Corporation, which is 170 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: a um Fox parent company for all of the Fox affiliates. 171 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: And you know, diversity is such a challenged conversation in 172 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: this country. We have experienced George Floyd and that tragedy, 173 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: among so many others. But it's like I talked with 174 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: my partner, Christop Khalil, who is the first African American 175 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: executive pro portion. She's no longer there, but what it 176 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: took to have that part of her leadership narrative and 177 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: what it takes for our diverse colleagues and peers to 178 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: be recognized. It's it's quite interesting that often they've already 179 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: done half of the work that they deserve but have 180 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: not received the benefit of So in with all of 181 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: this happening, what our firm has seen is you know 182 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: a lot of companies saying we don't know how to 183 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: have this conversation. We're seeing means where it's saying white 184 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: people help, and we're seeing UM colleagues that there's something 185 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: different about the way they're coming to work today, there's 186 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: something different about their temperament and the sadness of still 187 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: seeing the casual nature of a George Floyd's death. And 188 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: we don't know how to talk to them. We don't 189 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: know what to say, we don't know what to ask, 190 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: we don't know what to do. And thankfully, UM, we've 191 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: had some really great conversations with corporations who've reached out 192 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: and said can you help? And what we said is 193 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: how connected are you to the solution that you're seeking? 194 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Are you stuck? Are you refusing to move? Where are you? 195 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: And can we partner with you to answer the tough 196 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: question so we see what's next. So Tenny twenty in 197 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: that space has been a blessing that many firms like ours, 198 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: not just ours, but many firms like ours with Sean 199 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: who are connected and committed to diversity, have been praying 200 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: for and now it's actually moving forward, right, And so 201 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: that's what that's what excited me, and uh, it doesn't 202 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: excite to be the role that President Trump has played 203 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: in the White House, you know. But what excites me 204 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: is that when white people in general admit their years 205 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: a problem not tied to the fact that they've been 206 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: forced there because of affirmative action or some legal legislation. 207 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: Because I've always believed that, you know, don't deny me 208 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: because of my color, give me, give me the opportunity 209 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: because of my skill. And that's all we're asking when 210 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: you start talking about diversity. Now we're gonna shift gears 211 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: to come by. Where I really brought you on the show, 212 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: was that you you kind of a friend of mine. 213 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: I wanna calling my friend of mine because I did 214 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: two movies with him. Will Packer thinking like a man, 215 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: think like a man too. And we go all the 216 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: way back to stump the stump, the uh stump the yard. Now, 217 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, this weekly series is about following three couples 218 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: right who have a long term relationship and they have 219 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: not lived the ring on the finger to put the 220 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: ring the ring on the finger? Now, what attracted you 221 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: to you? Because that that's a key moment right there, 222 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: because you know, women are interesting because because men we 223 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: we we make decisions, we're we're, we're we're kind of 224 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: like I called satisfied animals, you know, in other words, 225 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: if it ain't broke, don't don't, don't mess with it word, 226 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: So what create change? If nobody just asking for change? 227 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: So we will ride out our relationship or a situation, 228 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: whether it's longest, it's not causing any disruption and how 229 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: pattern of what we're doing, We're gonna ride it out. 230 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: And sometimes women would allow that to happen and then't 231 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: want to create disruption because of fear of loss, of 232 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: fear of ending something that they believe in. But sometimes 233 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: you need disruption. And so when I when I read 234 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: about this show coming out, and then I also read 235 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: it it was being shot during the pandemic, I went, okay, 236 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: I gotta tract this now, I gotta I gotta find 237 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: up because you do all elvems right there, long term 238 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: relationship that don't have a that not have no sign 239 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: of commitment. When I said commitment, I'm talking about putting 240 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: the ring on that finger and you're shooting it doing 241 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: a pandemic. The floors you're got in the cold, the 242 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: beach that was that was loaded, Um, well you know 243 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: Will Packer. First of all, he is he is the 244 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: funniest dude. Oh my god, he is just a personality 245 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: it onto himself. What a great guy. Um, you know 246 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: saw the potential for this concept, and yes we shot 247 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: it in COVID. I you know, take my hat off 248 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: to the crew and to the executive producers because they 249 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: kept us safe. Um, they kept us tested, They kept 250 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: the the arena safe for us to do the work. 251 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: And I really appreciate that that that should not go 252 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: on set. But yeah, we have these couples who have 253 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: been in a relationship for a long time and the 254 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: question is are they stuck or refusing to move As 255 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: it relates to moving forward with with a ring with 256 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: an engagement that leads to marriage show, the premise of 257 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: the show is it's time. It's time to make a decision. 258 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Either you are willing to put a ring on it, 259 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: or maybe this is not your happily ever after and 260 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: maybe you need to start a new situation somewhere else. 261 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: And good luck on that if that's the way you 262 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: choose to go. And I wanted to do the show 263 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: because I wanted to hold the space for folks to 264 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: really recognize that they're in the driver's seat of a 265 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: lot of the narrative, and that this process would help 266 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: them figure out where they really needed to be on 267 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: this critical question of is this who you should be 268 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: co creating your life with, is this who you should 269 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: be building a future with, or should you be doing 270 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: something else? So when it came across my desk, I 271 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: was excited. I was like, Wow, this is not going 272 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: to be fun um to help some people and hold 273 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: the space for them to do their relationships at another level, 274 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: but I believe it was going to give some people 275 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: hope that are experiencing this question in their own relationship 276 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: rushan or they're just in a relationship and they just 277 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: need some new tools to help them do the relationship better. 278 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: The measures doch Nicole uh and these three couples that 279 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: are featured, were you're part of the selection process or 280 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: they were always selected when they brought you on board. No, 281 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about the folks and what was 282 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: necessary and what was needed, because you know, people come 283 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: into situation thinking the grass is greener, and usually they 284 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: have a list of what's greener. Right If you say, okay, 285 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: so what would be what would be better or what 286 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: what are you missing? They've got a proverbial list. So 287 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: then when people come into their lives that quote unquote 288 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: have the missing elements, then what do you do then? 289 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: What what is it calling for now as it relates 290 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: to your work, to really see is it those outside 291 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: things or is it's things going on within you that 292 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: needs to be worked out and worked out in this 293 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: relationship so that you can have something better than where 294 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: he started. So you know it was something And if 295 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: you watch it, I think we're moving to episode four 296 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: this week. Um, when you watch it, you really see 297 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: what it looks like to call all those things forward 298 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: and say, no, let's not talk about it anymore. Let's 299 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: be about it and see what we're really gonna do. 300 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: And that's really the key. Here's the thing I al 301 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: would like to tell people, especially when you're getting into 302 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: reality shows. You know, when reality shows first came out, 303 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: was a lot of fighting going on, with throwing bottles 304 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: and busting each other side of the head. It really 305 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: was deplorable for Black America to be on TV because 306 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: we were fighting all the time. We were angry and angry, angry, 307 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: especially a lot of the women. They were always shouting 308 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: cousin and pulling hair and all that stuff that was 309 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: the portrayal of early first out. Uh, they felt that 310 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: the storylines had to be violent when it came to 311 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: black storylines. That's why I really like the show. That 312 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: what I'm starting to watch, and they appealed to me. 313 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: But it still can lead to relationship issues being halted 314 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: and treated in the negative. Like for instance, we've seen 315 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: the melody and whole relationship in on their TV show 316 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: on on Network because the fact that her husband was 317 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: another relationship and so that ended in the divorce. And 318 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: so when you become a host of the other of 319 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: a show. And there's nothing wrong with these couples. These 320 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: are three couples that came on. Okay, they were living 321 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: their lives fine. You know, they were whether they had 322 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: a ring on it or not, they were cool. They 323 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: were cool with it. Now, isn't there a certain amount 324 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: of responsibility did you hold yourself accountable to to make 325 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: sure that you're not you know, I guess using television 326 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: as a tool for ratings, but not but by not 327 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: being a create a dysfunctional relationship for these couples where 328 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: they end unnecessarily do to the TV. Yeah, I mean absolutely, 329 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, the interest same thing for me is, you know, 330 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: I was offered other um television opportunities that I didn't 331 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: feel really spoke to how I lived my life, what 332 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: I think is important, and my brand of really trying 333 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: to help people in their relationships, in their leadership, in 334 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: their business moved towards the vision that's valuable to them 335 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: and value added to them. So all of those opportunities 336 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: didn't fit. One of the things that I really liked 337 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: about this one was I felt like, first of all, 338 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: for the couples that come on the show, everything is 339 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: not going the way they want and that's why they're 340 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: coming on the show. They really do have a presenting problem. 341 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: And the presenting problem is someone of these two is 342 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: not happy with where things are. So that checked the 343 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: first box. Is there something authentically happening, not just the 344 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: sensationalism or like you said, you know, folks are being 345 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: violent and all that stuff, because that doesn't fit who 346 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: I am. So yeah, there's a problem. Are they really 347 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: seeking to find a solution by doing some different things 348 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: than what they've done before? Yes? Are they bought into 349 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: the fact that there is a third party that can 350 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: hold a space for them to ask and answer some 351 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: of the critical questions. Yes, now do I believe that 352 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm the third party that can help them do that? 353 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: And that really was my process, because you know, if 354 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: they're coming on for the sensationalism, that's not that's gonna 355 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: wear out. It's welcome soon. Because I ask a lot 356 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: of tough questions and I don't I don't have any 357 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: assess smit of what the answer is gonna be. None. 358 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: People say, well, Doc, do you know when you meet 359 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: them if they're gonna make it? No, And they're like, 360 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: how do you not low, I said, because people are 361 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: made of behaviors. You can meet people rushaun and I'm 362 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: sure you've done this. You need to be like, oh 363 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: they'll never laugh. Oh God, I'm gonna go to the 364 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: wedding and I'm gonna get dressed up, but this is 365 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: this is never gonna laugh. And then twenty five years 366 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: later and grandkids you're looking, you shake your head in 367 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: silence from I didn't believe it. I don't believe it. 368 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Then you see some that are match made in heaven 369 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: and two years later you're like, what happened? So what 370 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: I've realized is people in relationships are made of behaviors. 371 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: And really, if they've got relationship friendly behaviors, they're gonna 372 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: have a greater shot if they're being honest, if they're communicating, 373 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: if they're finding tools. Listen, you need a hammer and 374 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: all you got is a screwdriver. The minute you find 375 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: out you've got a screwdriver and it needs a hammer, 376 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: what do you do? Are you the one that's gonna 377 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: keep using a screw driver for a hammer job, or 378 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna go get a hammer? Right? I love you? 379 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: Come on, doc, Come on dog, you're throwing out the metaphors. Yeah, 380 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: you know if so so. Once you see their willingness 381 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: to be flexible and to do what's needed to fight 382 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: for what they have or what they want, that's when 383 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: you know if they've got a running shot. And I 384 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: say to people, hey, that's on them to decide. I 385 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: am just a catalyst to help them figure it out. 386 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: And that's what the show provided. And and when I 387 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: saw that that's what Will was really trying to create 388 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: with something real, I said, count me in, I'm with it. 389 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: Let's do it. She said. The word we all that's 390 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: the Atlanta's Busy Powerhouse produce was Sir will Packard. You've 391 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: seen let me talking all the topics and movies to 392 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: line of child murders, murders to basketball scammels. Now he 393 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: loved the show several years ago I hosted by my man, 394 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: the nephew Tommy called Owns Ready to Love. He's a 395 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: new relative, like she says. The fourth episode is coming up. 396 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: Please make sure you watch it. It's only Own network. 397 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: It's called put a Ring on It. It was shot 398 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: in Atlanta mansion during the pandemic, So you need to 399 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: watch it just for that. You just dadn't happen right now. 400 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 1: People interact doing the pandemic when they're holding hands, when 401 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: they're sitting across from each other, were across them other 402 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: dinner table, where they're sitting on opposite ends of the sofa. 403 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: How do pandemic couples interact even though they've been together 404 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: for a long time. I know my wife, Dr Nicole, 405 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: she still won't let me take out to a restaurant. No, 406 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: she will not let me do that. She will not 407 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: let me do my daughter the same way. They said, 408 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: we're dad, We're comfortable. Even so, a lot of people 409 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: have not accepted the mask wearing a social standpoint, and 410 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: like you said, it does cause people to do Paul's 411 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: moments in their lives to say, hey, that's I'm not 412 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: comfortable with that. So I'm pretty sure what were the 413 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: most are not trying to reveal in this series of 414 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: the episodes as air so far, what are some of 415 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: the moments? Do it that you realized there was a 416 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: pandemic moment that is aired so far in the first 417 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: three episodes, you know, just just like what you said, Um, 418 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: one of the things that was big for me that 419 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: you won't see in the episodes is you know you're 420 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: with a crew and you you know they're they're taking 421 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: care of all of the things that are necessary to 422 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: make the show happen, and you realize you've never seen 423 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: their faces. It's like, wait a minute, We've been working 424 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: together for weeks, we've been in the same dwelling, UM, 425 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: but I don't know what you look like. And that 426 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: occurred to me when I finally saw um one of 427 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: the guys um we can all and Mr G when 428 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: I saw him with his mask hanging down, and I 429 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: recognized in that moment, Wow, I've been working with these 430 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: amazingly talented people for weeks and if I saw them 431 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: on the streets months from now without a mask, I 432 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: would not know them. I was like, we are in 433 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: a different time. Stringent protocols, no hugs, no touching, all 434 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: the things we were not used by the crew that 435 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: was wiped down immediately and sprayed and wiped down immediately, 436 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: wearing the mask. Because in the end we all want 437 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: to go home, and she is the host. I would say, 438 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: hot new show, door, hot new show with a hot title, 439 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: put your ring on it, done by a hot big 440 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: time producing will packers, by hot host Dr the Cold 441 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: the beach. Check it out. I want to leave me. 442 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna reach out to him. Put some banners 443 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: out there staring post yourself on my social media again. 444 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm so glad we reconnected. And thank you for those compliments. 445 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. God has put me in a 446 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: position to help a lot of people, and then along 447 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: the way when I help them and they come back 448 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: and they compliment me, give me credit for something I 449 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: felt it was just my duty to do. And the 450 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: blessing that you are showing on TV today is a 451 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: blessing to me that I that I I did what 452 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: I felt I had to do for you and continue 453 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: to put your success. Okay, doctor, I appreciate you so much. 454 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: UM love to come back anytime. You will be back. 455 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: We got we got analyzes, we got for analyses coming 456 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: up here post talk stuff. You know. I got a 457 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: couple of idea. I'm gonna call you with a couple 458 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: of ideas to me and you and will need to 459 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: say that. I got another idea of a show, idea 460 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: that's been bothering me for years in the relationship genre. 461 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: So you're gonna hear from me this week. Okay. And 462 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: we said, Rich, I'm doing some DOCU said Chan, that 463 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: makes no sense. You need to stop calling me. Okay, 464 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: stick to what you do. Okay, man, and these people 465 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: produced people. But I think, let me tell you, when 466 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: humility needs humor, I doubt that I will be saying 467 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about I doubt that. So I'm probably I 468 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: go to l A to marrow. So I think I'll 469 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: been flying to l A tomorrow. But this week, maybe Thursday, 470 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: I want to get on the phone with you. I 471 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: got an idea that it's been but it's been good 472 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: bothering me because it's been something that I've been dealing 473 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: with and I always thought about the what elf of life? When? When? 474 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: When we come to relationship, I want to run about you. Okay, 475 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: because you're on the Hot Show. I appreciate you big time. 476 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: We talked soon. Bye bye, thank you. Your more Money 477 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: Making Conversation interviews, please go to Money Making Conversation dot 478 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: com UM with Sean McDonald. I'm your host,