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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: This Rob Thompson and welcome to The Philly Show. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Ruben Tomorrow Junior's here, Jim Salisbury's here, I'm Todd's a

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Speaker 1: lucky The Philly Show brought to you by the foul

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Speaker 1: Territory Network. It's Tuesday, February fourth, twenty twenty five. How's

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Speaker 1: everybody doing you guys doing good?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I survived my ski expedition out there in Camelback Mountain.

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Speaker 2: I think I got me. Yeah, my kids got me

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Speaker 2: a really nice little junkin.

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Speaker 3: Me and my family, my partner Lori, and their boyfriends.

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Speaker 2: We all went up in the AIRBN beat up there

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Speaker 2: Camelback Mountain and my kids actually was really surprised. Man.

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Speaker 3: Nice little ski effort for one day and it was

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Speaker 3: really fun. Had one big tumble, hurt my knee a little,

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Speaker 3: but I'll be fine, don't worry. I'm okay. I will

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Speaker 3: not go on eye as.

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Speaker 1: Long as you didn't hit a tree or any that.

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Speaker 2: No trees.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: He's actually really nice.

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Speaker 1: I've never downhill skied before in my life. I've never

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Speaker 1: done it. I've never done it wiscons And know well

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Speaker 1: we don't really have hills there, slopes. I've just never.

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Speaker 1: I've never done it. Now I feel like I'm too

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Speaker 1: old to go. I would hit a tree and that's

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Speaker 1: not the way I want to.

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Speaker 2: Go down to Bunny Hill. That magic.

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Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever skied downhill?

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Speaker 2: Skied?

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Speaker 4: Yes, but not well and not offen and never again.

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Speaker 2: What's the matter with you, guys?

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Speaker 4: I was a hockey player. We never could go away

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Speaker 4: to ski because we're always playing hockey.

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Speaker 2: And that was fine with Well. If you if you're

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Speaker 2: skiing the on the East Coast, it's like skiing on

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Speaker 2: a hockey ricord. It's a nice you can ski there.

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Speaker 2: You can ski anywhere. I've never skied on the West.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to do one of these days.

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Speaker 1: I was double black Diamond Hills.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to do that. I did.

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Speaker 3: I used to do those as a kid for when

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Speaker 3: I was younger, but I'm not doing that stuff anymore.

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Speaker 1: Your go have fun, don't kill yourself, right, that's correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just take a nice just you know, just going

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Speaker 2: pizza pie it all the way down. No need a French.

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Speaker 1: Fry pizza pie like that. Jim likes that little pizza pie.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, snowplow pizza pie. And then you know French fries.

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Speaker 2: French fries is when you were airing it out letting

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Speaker 2: them fly.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good man. Now you got me thinking of food.

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Speaker 4: It is a crazy when those guys in the Olympics

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Speaker 4: they come down that hill like.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome, daredevils, it's insane.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, I've never done it. Maybe I will.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Probably not. I'm chicking now. I'm too

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Speaker 1: too scared. But you got me thinking of food and

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Speaker 1: super Bowls on Sunday. What do you guys? What do

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Speaker 1: you guys? Do you guys have big plans? You guys

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Speaker 1: like big super Bowl when your team is in it,

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Speaker 1: you going to a big party or do you like

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Speaker 1: to sit home and kind of like focus on the

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Speaker 1: game and be unbothered by the masses. Because there's a

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Speaker 1: comedian Bill Burr, who I love Bill Burr. There's a

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Speaker 1: clip running around on Instagram and everywhere right now where

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Speaker 1: I think it was. Conan O'Brien asked him, are you

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Speaker 1: going to watch the Super Bowl? He's like, I watch

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Speaker 1: it by myself. Because here's the thing about the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: If your team's in it, uh, ninety percent of the

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Speaker 1: people at the party. They don't care about the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: so they talked during the game, and then they get

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Speaker 1: quiet during the commercials, and then the game comes back

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Speaker 1: on and they spend the time talking about the commercials.

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Speaker 1: So I like that. I don't like to be bothered

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Speaker 1: by any of that stuff. So I'm kind of the

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Speaker 1: same way. I like to watch the game for sure,

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Speaker 1: rather than be distracted and then miss my team, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing the Philly Philly, you know, miracle touchdown pass from

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles or something like that to Nick Foles. What

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Speaker 1: are you guys doing.

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Speaker 4: I haven't firmed up any plans yet, but I'm feeling

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Speaker 4: some I might take out the smoker and do some

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Speaker 4: wings in a long time like that. I think you

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Speaker 4: might have heard I like wings.

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Speaker 2: Wings and burgers. You're you're there, They're high in your list.

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Speaker 3: I had some wings today and I'm a wing fan

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: I must admit I like pizza too. Man, Well, why

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Speaker 2: wuldn't you It's the one single greatest food. So you

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Speaker 2: guys watch single.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm actually going to my brother's house, Acaco's place

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Speaker 3: to check it out.

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Speaker 2: That should be really fun, just just a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a party. A little bit of a party. He's

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out what kind of hoogies we want,

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Speaker 2: what kind of love A nice hoki too. Yeah, we're we're.

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Speaker 5: Looking for the six footers and we can chop up right,

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Speaker 5: which I'll be mixed up, probably a little Turkey, probably

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Speaker 5: a little classic Italian, you know, not too much oil,

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Speaker 5: not too much right action, just you know, just enough.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Man, Sunday is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. Everybody's so it is. I mean it.

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Speaker 1: At the bus stop today, somebody was saying with for

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Speaker 1: my son, saying, you know, it's it's funny. But now

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Speaker 1: it's almost like this is just what the Eagles do?

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Speaker 1: You know, It's like you go all those years without

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Speaker 1: making this. Now what like three times in the last

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Speaker 1: six years, is that right?

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Speaker 2: Awesome?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty fun.

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Speaker 2: What do you feature me? Yeah? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I think it might be like some boneless wings for

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Speaker 1: the kids, you know, but I do like make a

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Speaker 1: little hot sauce, like a homemade hot sauce for that,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I'm not sure what else we got planned,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of snacky type of foods, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, so so like wings, boneless wings, you know,

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Speaker 1: Tata skins, something like that.

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Speaker 4: You want to go down to get a nice Pinocchio's pizza.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Little Media's favorite right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, We're doing shar cooterie. Laurie does an unbelievable

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Speaker 2: she's strong on the shark cooterie move.

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Speaker 1: That's good stuff as well.

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Speaker 2: She might she's pretty solid on the saladt the boot.

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Speaker 1: So Mancos and Mancos, Oh there you go, great call.

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Speaker 2: Maybe may maybe we have to ship them in.

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Speaker 1: Maybe get the work on that. Jimmy, well, hey, Jimmy, well,

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Speaker 1: you know last week we had to Rob Thompson on it,

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Speaker 1: and when we come back, we want to talk about

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Speaker 1: some of the very interesting things Rob Thompson said last

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Speaker 1: week on The Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: We are back. So Rob was great. Guys. We we

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Speaker 1: you know, we like we love talking to Rob and

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Speaker 1: he he was just fantastic on the show last week.

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Speaker 1: And it was interesting to see kind of like what

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Speaker 1: connected with the audience, and we saw a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff about the lineup. When we asked Rob about the lineup,

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Speaker 1: everybody loves the lineup. Everybody can make a better lineup

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Speaker 1: than the next person. I could crush you two on

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Speaker 1: a lineup, but then Ruben thinks my lineup would suck,

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Speaker 1: and Jim's is terrible. And that's just that's what kind

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Speaker 1: of makes baseball fun, you know, like lineups, And that

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Speaker 1: was something that I think really resonated. Uh. Rob said, basically,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna He's already had some conversations with some people.

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Speaker 1: And then Jim said, who do you think is a candidate?

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Speaker 1: Who are the candidates to hit lead off? If it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be Schwarber, And I kind of was

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Speaker 1: thinking he might mention two or three guys. He goes

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Speaker 1: tray Turner, period, tray Turner.

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Speaker 2: Kind of interesting.

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Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping to throw Bryson Stott's name

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Speaker 3: in there because I've been you know, I've been stumping

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Speaker 3: from Bryson Stott at the top of the lineup.

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Speaker 2: I like to see that happen. I think, then make

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Speaker 2: it a longer lineup.

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Speaker 3: But hey, we can we can agree to disagree with

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Speaker 3: Rob Thompson. I mean, I love a lot of things

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Speaker 3: that he says, but I want that Bryce and Stock

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the reason one of the reasons we

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Speaker 4: mentioned Stott a lot is Rob over the years has

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Speaker 4: mentioned that he thinks Bryson has the ability to one

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Speaker 4: day blossom into a leadoff man as some of the

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Speaker 4: skills you need to succeed up there. So that's always

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Speaker 4: kind of been in the back of your mind. But

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Speaker 4: you mentioned how Todd how people love to talk about

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Speaker 4: the lineups. I was really glad that you pointed out

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Speaker 4: that teams run these line up simulations. It's over one

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Speaker 4: hundred and sixty two games, and when it all shakes out,

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Speaker 4: the difference is like three runs over one hundred and

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Speaker 4: sixty two games totally.

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Speaker 1: So I actually wrote about this last March. I contacted

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Speaker 1: this guy. He works for a company called Sequencer, and

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Speaker 1: he works for like one or two major league teams,

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Speaker 1: but it's mostly all college baseball and softball teams, And

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Speaker 1: so I had him put together a bunch of different

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Speaker 1: lineups and I said, like, give me your best lineup overall,

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Speaker 1: and then give me your worst lineup overall, and the

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Speaker 1: best lineup overall. Last season, going into the season. I

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Speaker 1: just look up this story I wrote. It was five

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Speaker 1: point zero four runs per game the worst lineup, which

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Speaker 1: is basically like if you hit like Turner, Schwarburn, Harper

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Speaker 1: like seven eight nine, it was four point nine two

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Speaker 1: runs per game. So it was only a difference of

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Speaker 1: like twenty runs over the course of a season. So

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Speaker 1: like the idea that you know, if you moved Swarbur down,

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Speaker 1: you move Turner up, if you move Harper here of that,

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Speaker 1: it's really not according to these numbers, it's not going

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Speaker 1: to make a huge seismic difference in run production because

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Speaker 1: so those guys are still going to hit. They might

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Speaker 1: just hit a little bit less, they might a little

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Speaker 4: A lot of balance, a lot of right left balance.

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Speaker 3: And the reality of it is they have a really

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Speaker 3: They have got speed, they've got power, They've got pretty

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Speaker 2: I just feel like they're going to have better years.

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Speaker 3: They'll be better players, and I think Turners could be

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Speaker 2: I really believe that.

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Speaker 3: We'll see I will I will tell you that Stott

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what else, when you guys think of everything that

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Speaker 4: Well? I liked when he talked a little bit. I

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Speaker 3: And they also the players always wants to be supported.

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Speaker 3: People don't know this, but Rob Thompson is not afraid

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Speaker 1: But I remember Charlie, Charlie Manuel all the time. Because

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Speaker 2: So a great thing.

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Speaker 3: The great thing about that for me is I think

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Speaker 3: about John folgovin Shit, you know, you want to be

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Speaker 3: supportive to the to them publicly, you want to be

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Speaker 3: supportive to them, uh.

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Speaker 2: Usually privately as well.

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Speaker 3: And that also gives you license once it's time for

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Speaker 3: you to get on them, to get on them, because

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Speaker 3: you've given them that respect, you've given them, you've allowed

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Speaker 3: them that leash and uh And I think that also,

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Speaker 3: like you said, Todd, I think it's more impactful when uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, when you get zipped every once in a while.

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Speaker 4: Were you ever part of a great team meeting room?

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Speaker 2: I've been in a lot of great team meetings and

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Speaker 2: a lot of shitty ones.

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Speaker 1: What's a what's a good one? And what's a bad one?

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Speaker 1: Or do you remember a good one? And do you

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Speaker 1: remember a bad one that you stick in your head

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Speaker 1: and go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a there's quite there's there are quite

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Speaker 2: a few of them.

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Speaker 3: I've been involved in some team meetings as an executive

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Speaker 3: that weren't the greatest, but I've also been involved in

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Speaker 3: some team meetings that were really spectacular. As a player,

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Speaker 3: I've been involved with one and when Jim Fergosi basically

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Speaker 3: chewed out one of the one of the leaders of

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Speaker 3: the team, and everybody was in shock, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: like realize what was happening until you know, months or

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Speaker 3: a year later that.

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Speaker 2: He did it for effect.

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Speaker 3: He did it as a plant, basically to say, hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna and like later on he had talked to

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Speaker 3: the guys saying, listen, I used you to make a point.

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Speaker 2: It was it was enlightening. It was really really it

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Speaker 2: was lightning. I'm not going to tell you what the

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Speaker 2: guy was.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he ended up getting on uh.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Pencavelia.

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Speaker 3: I think he jumped on Pete for some reason and

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Speaker 3: it was just to jump on him, trying to make

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Speaker 3: a point.

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Speaker 2: He got the biggest guy in the room, right, He

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Speaker 2: jumped on the biggest man in the room. And he's

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Speaker 2: a pretty imposing fellow that at peen Incavillia.

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Speaker 3: And if Jim Fergossi's getting on the biggest guy in

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Speaker 3: the room, he can pretty much get on anybody and

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Speaker 3: you'd have.

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Speaker 2: To take it.

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Speaker 1: I love that. That's great, pretty cool, that's great. You know,

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Speaker 1: Rob said a couple of other things.

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 1: We asked him about the Dodgers, and he wanted to

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Speaker 1: be He made a point to say, listen, they had

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Speaker 1: a great offseason. They can only play nine guys, it

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Speaker 1: can only start one guy every day, So I wonder

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Speaker 1: if that's going to be a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: And then he also talked about everybody's got this perception

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Speaker 1: that we're going down. I think we're still on the

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Speaker 1: way up and we're still going I wonder if that

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Speaker 1: might be a little bit of a rallying cry and

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Speaker 1: in the sense or you know, a little backdrop to

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Speaker 1: the team's story as they move forward. Of you know,

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Speaker 1: nobody thinks you guys can compete with the Dodgers, and

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Speaker 1: everybody thinks you guys aren't any good, and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe that takes the pressure off. Maybe that helps them

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Speaker 1: play a little bit looser. We'll find out, of course,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know, but maybe maybe there's something there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's part of the message that he's already formulated. Well,

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Speaker 1: he did say he's going to mention some of that

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Speaker 1: stuff his opening comments, right, Jimmy, you asked that question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he mentioned that there seems to be this narrative

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Speaker 4: that they're going downward or he acknowledged, you know, a

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Speaker 4: couple of quick eggs, it's the last two October's. But

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Speaker 4: he said, the record is getting better. He thinks that

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Speaker 4: personnel is better, and he thinks they are getting better.

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Speaker 4: I think it's important for him to deliver an upbeat

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Speaker 4: message on day one. You have to, and you know,

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Speaker 4: they're grown men. They're not going to fall for a

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Speaker 4: raw Ross speech on opening of camp. But I think

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Speaker 4: they do understand they have real good personnel and a

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Speaker 4: real good opportunity to do something here. But they need

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Speaker 4: to play better in October. I fully expect him to

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Speaker 4: get to October. They need to play better.

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Speaker 2: And as part of that message, he also talked about.

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Speaker 3: Some young players coming, you know, the painters of the

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Speaker 3: world and the Millers, and he's interested in seeing those

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Speaker 3: guys and the Crawfords of the world and Chasse and

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Speaker 3: others that he's going to put his eyes on. He

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Speaker 3: also feels like there's a lot more depth than they've

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Speaker 3: had in the past, which is very true. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you start looking at the rotation. It's always been the

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Speaker 3: question last couple of years. It's great rotation, but do

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Speaker 3: they have enough depth to carry if they have a

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Speaker 3: couple of breakdowns and and I think they put themselves

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Speaker 3: in a position to have a little bit more depth

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Speaker 3: and some young with some young arms and some quality arms.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think it was interesting for him

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Speaker 3: to have mentioned the fact that, you know, they still

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Speaker 3: got some players coming. So it's a good time to

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Speaker 3: be a Philadelphia fan, and it's a good time to

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Speaker 3: be in the organization because the expectation remains high.

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Speaker 1: So one thing, one last thing for me is that

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Speaker 1: Jim sent us a photo Rubin. And if you remember this,

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, he was watching Jeopardy and

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Speaker 1: you guys like to sign off the show with smellulator,

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Speaker 1: and it's right. We run into people that will say it. Jim,

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Speaker 1: didn't you have somebody say it to you outside of church?

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Speaker 1: One day? Walking out of church, sat on it, which

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Speaker 1: I love. That's amazing about the smellulator. So Jim's at

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Speaker 1: home one night on the couch or whatever, watching Jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna show that pop this on the screen.

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Speaker 4: Yere Jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: The category ruben was crossword clues. Oh it's an eight category.

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Speaker 1: The clue was cranial nerve to smell you later, nine letters.

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Speaker 1: Cranial nerve to smell you later, nine letters.

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Speaker 2: Any idea?

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Speaker 1: What the answer is? Jim, do you remember what the

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Speaker 1: answer is. I looked it up the website. You can

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Speaker 1: look up everything.

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Speaker 3: The old factory, old factory, the old factory, old factory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So that's kind of funny though.

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Speaker 1: Jim saw its like I gotta take a picture of this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's button.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: That is funny. That is funny. But all right, we'll

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Speaker 1: be back there this week. We've got a guest coming.

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Speaker 1: You guys are really enjoyed, uh, A nice big guest

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Speaker 1: for everybody? Yes, yeah, yes, get ready for the guests.

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Speaker 1: later this week for more Philly Show. Thanks everybody smelling.

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Speaker 4: Can I give a hint on who our guest is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, go for it.

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Speaker 2: You can give them a little ump.

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Speaker 4: Hid a little before I sign off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just tough.

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Speaker 4: Just there you go.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right, smell you layer, guys.

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Speaker 2: Smell smell you, Tim.

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