1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: On this big fish small pod. We're covering the Miguel 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Rojas contract extension. We'll look back a little bit at 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Eddie Alvarez, who might make a little more sense now, 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and we'll try to wrap our heads around this December 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: first lockout or so it appears on the horizon. So 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm Atie Wardhal this is bigfish small pod. What we're 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: covering today really begins with the news that Miguel Rojas 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: will be in Miami at least through twenty twenty three, 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: extending his contract. It'll be about like ten million total 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: for twenty two and twenty three. Jeremy Tashe really like 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: said it all on Twitter that Miguel Rojas already mentioning 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: how even if he's not the shortstop long term, he 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: wants to be the best he can for however, long 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: before transition into a utility role later in his career. Really, 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: what that speaks to is a maturity that the Marlins 16 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: organization hasn't really had, even like talking back like two 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: thousand and three, like when the Marlins were like at 18 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: the World Series like heights. Yeah, Like it's not like 19 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: Josh Beckett had his most composed years as Marlin or 20 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: Michael Cabrera, both of whom reached like career highs elsewhere. 21 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: This sort of move is like something that's distinctly different 22 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: than the Marlins of the past. So, like looking at 23 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: how the Marlins line up now as of today, look 24 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: into like twenty twenty two contracts, they have about like 25 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: forty four million committed, including like arbitration estimates, not including 26 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: like your minimum wage. That's like just like what the 27 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: organization has like committed to the payroll beyond the bare minimum. 28 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: We're not like sure these are like spock tracks, bo 29 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: traxx numbers and estimates for arbitration salaries. Obviously we don't 30 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: know what like Jesus Aguilar, Brian Anderson, Sandy al Contra 31 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: might receive going forward, but like their estimated salaries now, 32 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Jesus expected about eight million, Brian about four and a half, 33 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: Sandy about four and a half. Those are your other 34 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: major salaries on this Marlins team. As we look to 35 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: these weeks ahead, we could see them lock in their 36 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three salary as well. 37 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: There's like real opportunity in these coming weeks to creatively 38 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: collaboratively elevate players with a mind for the World Series 39 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and like committing to the Marlins, like baseball in Florida 40 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: ahead of like a time, it's hard to like pause reset. 41 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: Really what we're looking at is this December first lockout. 42 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Baseball's like headed for it. Who like knows what it 43 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: could entail. The writing has like really just like been 44 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: on the wall. To recap briefly, like some major league 45 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: teams spend like one hundred and twenty million more than 46 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: like a team like the Marlins do, and there are 47 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: like plenty of other teams like the Marlins who haven't 48 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: really committed that much money to players on the field. Basically, 49 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: like the principle is like if you like win, fans 50 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: will come. People like baseball, people like days out. There's 51 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: like obviously a real argument for enjoying baseball. I think 52 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: we can all be on the same page about that. 53 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: And owners some are like claiming to be losing money, Well, 54 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: like the Marlins, they've basically had a valuation of one 55 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: point two billion dollars and it's not clear where these 56 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: owners could be losing anywhere near that type of money 57 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: or if it's about a matter of committing to the 58 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: roster that him they raised for example, they like had 59 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: their Montreal kick this whole I don't even want to 60 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: talk about it, but their Montreal kick it really took 61 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: the focus off the field, where they made the playoffs 62 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: and dominated in the regular season, while they were basically 63 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: like biting at the very idea of baseball in Saint 64 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: Pete and simultaneously like letting some players get away. Miguel 65 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: Rojas stands against that. Well. He also represents the miming 66 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: Mo Marlins to the players Union. It's hard not to 67 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: get like high minded about that because it's like the 68 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: exact dynamics with the Marlins that make us all think 69 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: they're poised for a breakout locking in their players earlier 70 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: ahead of that, Like whatever it is, basically, whatever this 71 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: lockout is is just it's you know, it's it's like 72 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: a toxic conflict. If the Marlins can avoid being any 73 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: part of it, that's absolutely what you want. Maybe Miguel 74 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: Rojas is a player who's like leading by example among 75 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: other players, and I think we like there's a pretty 76 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: solid argument that he is. What we're looking at here 77 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: is hopefully the groundwork for the pivot and commitment to 78 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: the roster, like a financial commitment they've already like I 79 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: talked about making. We'll see the results pretty soon in 80 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: the near future. The Rojas contract extension also helps reframe 81 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: Eddie Alvarez's departure from the organization. On paper, the move 82 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: didn't really like make that much sense why the Marlins 83 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: would want a player like Eddie Alvarez to get away 84 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: from the organization. But now knowing where we stand as 85 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: like an organization, with Miguel Rojas as the like potential 86 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: like utility guy of the future, we were looking at 87 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 1: a roster spot with Eddie Alvarez that looks like less 88 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: and less likely to be his. Basically he was pinched 89 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: out of the future plan with Miguel Rojas there. And 90 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: obviously you've got other players there like Bryce and Brickman 91 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Er Jose Devers just to name literally two of that 92 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: like five or six guys who are in that conversation 93 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: for the infield of the future as well as your 94 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, current infield. It might have been a matter 95 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: of just really good transparent conversation between Eddie and Marlin's 96 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: decision makers. They could have sat him down, looked at 97 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: the future determined that like the path forward wasn't the 98 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: right for him as a you know, like a person 99 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: transitioning from another Olympic level career into what he is 100 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: now with like from what I understand, like a wife 101 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: who's like truly like the bread weather in the family, 102 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: as like a successful real estate agent. So with him, 103 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: it makes all the sense in the world that just 104 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: a good conversation could have led to the path of 105 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: Ady Alvarez testing the market as a minor league free 106 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: agent and then he could come back around later on 107 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: to the Marlins in the off season, if you know, 108 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: if it just works out like that, there's just a 109 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: last day, been a lot of clarity in Marlin's decision 110 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: making that has a lot of potential to do a 111 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: lot of good. For the most it sounds like the 112 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: Marlins are really considering the stakeholders in their decisions, everyone 113 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: who could be impacted by it appropriately addressing their power 114 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: going forward. And that's a really really optimistic look at 115 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: where this Marlins off season could be headed. Tonight, we 116 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: have Game three of the World Series Lewis Garcia versus 117 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: Ian Anderson at Truest Park in Cobb County, Georgia. The 118 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: team from Atlanta is playing against the twenty seventeen champion 119 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: Houston Astros tied one to one. Even if you haven't 120 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: been watching, it's totally worth your attention that the top 121 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,119 Speaker 1: of the league has been so stagnant with the Dodgers, 122 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: the Astros, the Red Sox. Those are your recent champions 123 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: along with your National League East like Wildcard. A lot 124 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: of the same teams have been in the World Series, 125 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of those same teams have won it. 126 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: The Braves, like the Nationals, are another like one off 127 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: World Series appearance in this past five years. The Rays 128 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: are too, but they certainly figure to be positioned for more. 129 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: The Braves could be two. And I can't get over 130 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: the fact that I saw on MLB dot com article 131 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: comparing the World Series teams like positioned by position and 132 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: m Devall was the center fielder of in that conversation 133 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: as the best center fielder in the World Series. Just 134 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: blows my mind a little bit just how bad first 135 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: the position can be. Anyways, thank you for listening to 136 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: Bigfish Small Pod. As always I've been at were dull