WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Football Potpourri 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.480 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:21.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is nick Shot 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.520 screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:30.200 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:37.680 and Nicky Spagnola. Oh, Mickey can't wait to get into 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.720 this and Mick shots Everson Walls. Let me tell you, 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.479 we're gonna have to dive right in because, as you know, 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.639 it is super Bowl week and Mickey sent me an 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:52.120 email yesterday that has that goes. It was basically two 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.720 emails in one. It's got so many topics. He wants 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.560 to talk about, whether it's Super Bowl, whether it's quarterbacks 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:04.040 being traded in this league, no matter, whether it's Missouri basketball. 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.959 Now he won't get into Missouri. No, we're not getting 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.759 into Missouri basketball. No, no, but and so Micky Mickey 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.440 wants the floor to start off. Okay, Everson, but let's 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.200 give you the floor first, because Mickey doesn't have the 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.680 floor right now. Mickey, Everson, Mike, what's on your mind? 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.800 Form my platform today? First of all, welcome to Black 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:31.199 History Month, guys, right yo, So glad to have you here. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.000 I was gonna take over the show, and I think 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.479 Spags knew that. That's why he sent you that list 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.160 of subjects and didn't send me Jack. I don't even 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.399 know what the henk we're gonna talk about today, but 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:44.960 I do know I want to welcome you guys a 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.640 Black History Month. Every show this month, I'm gonna have 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:53.160 a there ago a black something on. Even if it's 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.440 just me, it's gonna be black something. So that's that's 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:00.600 what we're gonna do. You can't see me over on guys, 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.400 take it away? Do you think ever since you can't 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.680 see me but I've got a black pull over on today? 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.200 Oh nice, welcome to the club. I'll wear it. I'll 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.720 wear it every show this month and even beyond this month. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.760 Just blue doesn't count, right, I needed to be in black. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.120 Blue does not count. There is there are some blue 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.560 black people in this world, but no, your blue does 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.600 not count. And there's some black and blue people in 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:34.639 this world. And I could think of at Mickey, Yah. Yeah, 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:36.800 where do you want to start? Well, you had a 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.080 couple of topics too, so we got a lot of 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:44.440 ground to cover, right, yes, exactly right? Uh and uh 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.640 all right, let's how about we start with the news 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.880 of the day yesterday. Get it out of the way 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.480 to start with, because everything else is kind of Super 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:58.120 Bowl and NFL related. But Jason Winton has landed a 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:03.160 new job, and how many are surprise that we aren't surprised. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.399 I'm not surprised. It is a coaching job, and I'm 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.919 not surprised that it's at the high school level two 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:14.600 at Liberty Christian School in Argyle, which is located north 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.400 of Fort Worth in Denton County. I think, so it's 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.320 right here in the metroplex for those of you who 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.440 don't live in North Texas. And his kids, his four 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.800 kids all go to school there. I don't know if 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.600 the youngest is old enough to go to school yet, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.840 but I think the oldest boy is in seventh or 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.280 eighth grade. Eighth and so he's the varsity head football 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.080 eighth grade. Yes, And he's the varsity head football coach 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.640 at Liberty Christian. So congratulations to him. To start things off. 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:47.080 Liberty Christian is about I'm gonna say, five miles or 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.200 so from where I live, and I'll tell you what 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.640 for a private school, they've got some of the nicest 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.120 facilities that I think I've seen at a school of 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.480 that size. So there's some money in that school, believe me. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.520 And that used to be that used to be really 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.400 good in the taps Um. They've fallen off these last 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.000 couple of years, but they used to be. But they're 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.600 about to get good again. Yes, yeah, And you know what, 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.440 And I think most people on this missed the boat 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:22.120 on well, why would he want to coach in high school? Well? 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:27.280 Why not? Number one? That's where his kids are. Number two, 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.719 I'm thinking, if you're a high school coach, you have 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:35.280 more effect on young people than you would in the 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:41.320 NFL or even in college at these days, right, uh, next, uh, 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:45.480 Now he he doesn't have to recruit. You go to college, 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.800 you spend the whole year recruiting. Now he may recruit 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.840 it a private school. I'm not gonna dismiss that possibility, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:05:01.200 revol right, but right now, his name, his name will 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:05.120 do all the rending he needs exactly. He won't have 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.240 to do any recruiting. His name will recruit for him. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.960 And then and then, you know, you coach in college, boy, 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:16.560 that's a long haul year for you. And in the NFL, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.240 does he want to show up at six or seven 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.520 in the morning and work till ten at night as 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:26.800 an assistant tight ends coach. I don't think so. So. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.320 I think he's gone to where kind of his family 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.440 roots are. His grandfather was a head high school coach, 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:39.560 his brother's high school head coach. And I just think 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.479 it's a natural thing. If you're going to have a 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.440 family and you have four kids that are that young, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.559 probably want to be around him because you probably weren't 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.520 around him as much as you wanted to when you 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:55.200 were playing. I just think it's a perfect fit. I 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.080 Grease Fast. That's one of the things that we talked 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:03.040 about you a call when we first, you know, contemplated 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:07.760 with leaving the NFL. We talked about Tennessee like him 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.039 going back to the University of Tennessee. I never thought 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.000 that would be a good fit for him. I think 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.000 I even expressed it at the time that you guys 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.360 brought it up. You know, it's tough, like you said, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.039 moving the kids, moving the family from a place in 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.480 Dallas where you have been for a long time and 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.880 where you've made your name. Why not stay in this 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.040 area and once against facts, you did all this plane 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.200 you did all I mean seventeen eighteen years, then you 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.719 end up going to Vegas, you know, just trying to 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.800 squeeze out one more year to see what that team 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.800 could do, what kind of promise they would have. And 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.240 you know that's enough. I'm sure his wife and his 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.840 family were. They were very grateful to know that he 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.560 was not going to leave the state of Texas because 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.120 I think as far as his family is concerned, they 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.680 don't know much about Tennessee. I know they have, I'm 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.560 sure family there. You know, he's got his legacy there 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.159 in regards to college, but when it comes to his 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:07.440 professional career, this is where Jason Witt has made his home, 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.320 and this is where his families feel uncomfortable. His name 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:14.360 will bring in as much notoriety to the Liberty Universe 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.760 or Liberty High School that they can. It's going to 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:25.640 be an amazing Like I said, why leave the area. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.120 I think he can influence so many high school kids 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.960 much more than he could some college kids. And let 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.760 me throw in a couple of other things on this 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:39.040 and we'll move on to what's on Mickey's long list. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:45.840 Here Sean Payton, when he had his exile under suspension 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.480 from the New Orleans Saints, his kids went to Liberty 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.120 Christian here in Argyle, and he was a volunteer coach 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.000 during that season while the NFL season was going on. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.240 That is where Sean Payton spent his time during that 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.280 season with his kids. He was helping coach the football 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.440 team that year. And the other thing is keep in 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:10.320 mind Doug Peterson and his resume. After playing in the 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.120 National Football League, he retired at age thirty seven. He 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.880 went back home to Shreveport, Louisiana, and it was an 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:21.200 upstart private school, Calvary Baptist Academy. He was the head 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.880 coach there right after retiring from the NFL for four years. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.240 Did that for four years and then was hired by 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.720 Andy Reid as an assistant coach in oh nine with 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.000 the Eagles. Followed him to Kansas City, and by twenty 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.600 fifteen he was a head coach in the National Football 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.520 League and a couple of years later he wins the 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.920 Super Bowl as the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.920 So just because Jason Witton is coaching at the high 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.800 school level right now, you know a few years from now, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.199 we'll see it doesn't rule out. In fact, it can 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.600 be a perfect situation for him to from a family 0:08:56.640 --> 0:09:00.160 standpoint and stay in coaching, and even if it's at 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.760 the high school level, there are things you are learning 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.320 to do as a coach and managing people that will 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.160 prepare him for any head coaching jobs at a higher 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.520 level that he might want to pursue in the future. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.679 All right, yeah, and what you want to go to 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.160 I was going to also add, you know, there's been 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.520 a couple other former Cowboy players go into high school coaching. 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:26.400 George Tigue is still doing it, right, Um, yep, George 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.040 is more like an athletic director right at JP two. Right. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.120 And then you know Bill Bates did it also in 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.839 Florida when he went back in Jacksonville. As a matter 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.800 of fact, his Yeah, he wasn't the head coach, but 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.400 he was a coach there when Tim Tebow was at 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:49.640 his high school. By the way, Yep, that's true. That's 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.800 very truce bags. I happen to know a little bit 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:57.800 about that. Let's not forget about Dion Sanders at his 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.680 high school. Now he's a Jackson State and he's doing 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.720 that's gonna be amazing for the Swack, for the Southwestern 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.600 Athletic Conference. But let's just be real, Dion ain't trying 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.520 to stay at Jackson State. We know where Dion wants 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.160 to go, so let's just be real about that. But 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.640 I do appreciate him for the time that he's going 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.160 to spend at the HBCUs because the swack and all 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.760 HBCUs could clearly use that type of influence, that type 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.439 of notoriety to help bring a little bit more you know, 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:35.240 a little bit more money and exposure to the HBCUs. Yeah, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.360 And and the timing of that, he waited. You know, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.199 his kids are now college age, and so he got 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.080 his son is going to play for him at Jackson 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.080 State and then and then when the Florida State job opens, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.520 he'll follow him to Florida States. At the idea, I 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:55.160 believe that is. I believe that is if if Florida 0:10:55.240 --> 0:11:02.600 States his son, right, be honest, it's a package deal. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.199 It's a pack This is the reverse package deal, right, 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:11.120 the son sides and brings dad alone. And by the way, 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:16.120 another another recent to Cowboys player, John Kitten, is coaching 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.880 at the high school ranks. Uh. He's now at Burlison 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.720 Centennial and coached his son, who, by the way, is 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.600 going to the University of Florida. I believe to play quarterback. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.520 So anyway, there's and he's got about four sons that 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.800 are all athletes. Got more coming up in the ranks there. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.319 All right, all right, Nie, let's let's do this your list, 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.640 let's do this. Let's let's uh kind of talk about 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:46.719 the big trade, the quarterback shuffle with Matthew Stafford going 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.959 to the Rams and Goff going to the Lions. Uh 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:56.160 in that trade? Uh, anybody surprised by that? I think 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.920 the only thing I was surprised is how much Detroit 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:04.840 God trading Matthew step not only a starting quarterback, but 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:10.480 two first round picks in the third round pick? Does 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:15.880 that let you know just how disappointed the coaches were 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.240 in Jared Golf playing with the Rams. I mean, even 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.120 though he tried his best to go in that playoff game. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.880 You know, he's a little bit hobbled with the thumb 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:29.679 on his throwing hands. I think it's clear that the 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.880 playoff game had nothing to do with them releasing or 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:38.520 at least trading for Matthew Stafford, because Jared Golf at 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.839 one point during the season, I said, about halfway during 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.640 the season, the Rams were looking good. They were the 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.560 favorites to win the NFC, even over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:55.280 and they were even talking about how this team's offense 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.080 was doing as just as efficient as Aaron Rodgers and 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.439 the Green Bay Packerd so early on, even after they 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:08.360 signed Jared Golf to a big contract, if I'm not mistaken, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.880 and then for him to lose favor like that, to me, 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.280 it's I'm not surprised that they got rid of him, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.680 but that not only did they give up a lot, 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.160 I'm also surprised that they that they would get rid 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:27.440 of him so soon. It was just last year they 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.439 showed this guy up, you know, with some good money, 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:32.960 thinking that this is going to be the favorites to 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.440 go to the super Bowl, with the coach being an 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.400 amazing coach, having every surgence as a player. All of 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:44.199 a sudden he's out, just like that. With this amazing, 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.240 amazing defense that he has to play alongside with, he 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.520 was clearly a disappointment. And I'm sure somebody like a 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.319 Dak Prescott, what do you think Dak Prescott's thinking right now? Well, 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.720 I'll tell what do you think he's saying? Well, I'll 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.560 tell you what the Cowboys are thinking. And this is 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.319 what people out there. I wrote about it on Friday. 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.560 You know it's like, well, why having the Cowboys signed back? 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.160 Just sign him. You know, he deserves the money. The 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:15.080 Cowboys know he deserves the money. But these quarterback deals 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:20.840 are are really fickle sometimes right, and they're tedious, and 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.960 you better be right and not only right, but you 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.480 gotta structure it right too, because there was a cost 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.800 to both teams to do this switcher roof. If you 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:36.440 look at the ramifications of the salary cap. Now I 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:42.200 understand that the Rams wanted to don salary cap money, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:49.800 but they also uh inherited salary cap structure by by 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:55.400 by releasing Jared Goff at such an early time, they 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:59.880 incurred to do this. Now I had gone back and look, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.320 if they had just released Jared Goff, they would have 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:09.080 incurred sixty five million dollars in dead money. As it stands, 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.960 because they traded them and so they got rid of 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:16.000 some of the guaranteed base salaries. They incurred twenty two 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:23.280 point two million in dead money, and by trading for Stafford, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.840 they inherited his contract. Now this can be reworked, and 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.240 they've got time because none of this is official to 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:34.640 March seventeenth, but they also if they just inherit his 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.960 contract for the next two years, it's nineteen million dollars 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:43.160 in base money, So that means almost forty two million 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.800 they stuffed into a salary cap that they don't have 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.400 room for. So they're gonna have to work on doing 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:55.840 either a rework contract or signing him to an extension, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.800 which is going to put more money into their salary. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:05.800 And the same thing for Detroit, they suffered nineteen million 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:11.200 dollars in dead money. Now his cap number was thirty 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:15.400 three million this year Staffords was, so they saved a 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:19.400 little bit money there, but they also have nineteen million 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.200 and dead money. So I know when teams say, well 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.120 we saved this and this, I don't care what you saved. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:30.920 You just spent nineteen million dollars to unload your quarterback 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:35.200 for a quarterback that the Rams didn't want anymore. So 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.440 I don't know how you guys look at this. But 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:44.880 the Rams, assuming that nothing changes what Stafford's contract, they're 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.800 gonna be thirty million dollars over the cap and they've 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.120 got to start doing some cutting before in March seventeenth. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.760 So my point is this is why the Cowboys look 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.320 at Dak's contract and go, okay, we gotta be careful here. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.840 We can just be cavalierly throwing around all this money 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.679 because you never know what these quarterbacks uh and and 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.440 boy it it'll you know, it'll bite you if you're wrong. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.919 And even if you're right, it's gonna bite you somewhere 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.840 else against the salary cap. So that is why this 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.880 is taking so long for the Cowboys to figure out. Now, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.720 maybe Annheuser Busch has just helped the Cowboys by signing 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:30.000 Dak to a new endorsement contract. I see is being reported, right, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.920 that's gotta be worth subted, right. Maybe he doesn't need 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:39.480 as much money on his football contract. So that's why 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.600 Annheuser Busch is not doing any commercials at the Super Bowl. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.520 They had to pay Dad and all have money on Dack. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.000 They have to save them money. They have to save 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:54.120 them money for the future contracts. Hey, so Spags, all right, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.760 I'm gonna I'm gonna this is gonna be my wall 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.600 shot right here, because this is just what the NFL deserves. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:02.960 Ye know, I was a union rep. We fought for 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:04.919 players to get all the money that they need and 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.800 that you can the teams can afford to pay you. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.360 But what happened along with the Union trying to make 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:16.800 us rise up was all these smart agents who you know, 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.400 were drafting these quarterbacks, the Lee Steinberg's, you know, all 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.760 of those guys who really start to influence the league 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:27.479 a lot with their clients and the signings that there 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:34.800 was clients began to receive. I think quarterbacks are extremely 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:42.320 overrated and overhyped pretty much on every team in the NFL. 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:47.000 Not only are they overhyped in regards to the league, 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:53.040 I think we give them too much preference in regards 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.919 to a what it's supposed to be a team game. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.560 And I'm getting a little pissed off when all we 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.640 hear about is Okay, super Bowls coming up, our playoffs 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.720 coming up, this matchup is coming up. Well, who's the 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.359 matchup between or It's not between the Cowboys and the 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:13.639 Washington team. No, No, it's against the quarterbacks of those 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.879 teams along with the other guys. You know. To me, 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.640 when you have a team that's powerful, that's powerful enough 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.320 to get into the super Bowl or team and make 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:28.680 it into the playoffs, you can't do it with the 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:32.320 one man band. You've got to have those guys stepping 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.560 up for you, and we seem to as a nation 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.480 and as a narrative for this league, we seem to 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.280 put so much emphasis on these quarterbacks. So therefore, not 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:50.640 only do they garner sometimes unwarranted leadership, unwarranted endorsements, unwarranted 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.480 huge contracts, and you have brothers on the offensive line, 0:19:54.520 --> 0:20:01.000 defensive line, defensive backs, linebackers who are bawling out. Let's 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:06.760 me say it like this. Average quarterbacks can ask for 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:11.280 way more than they deserve just because of the position, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.560 not how good they are. So you have the emphasis 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:21.080 on this particular person and this position, and yet you 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.320 got these players that are balling out around you, pulling 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.520 you out of the fire as many times as you 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.439 have been successful. So to me, I think we have 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:37.359 gotten into this culture of well, that's our leader. Hell no, 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.240 that's not money I had. I had quarterbacks on my 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:43.359 team that were good, but I wouldn't call them my leader. 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:48.000 You understand. I had guys on my defense that led me. 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.960 And I think that when we have started with this 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.760 quarterback club thing that they started back in the eighties, 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.879 late eighties and early nineties, to our quarterbacks are garden 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.160 and I know, it's just quarterback club, and you've got 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.879 other positions in quarterback club. It started off with the 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:13.160 premises of quarterbacks getting the preferential treatment on and off 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:17.160 the field, giving benefit of the doubt on TV doing 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.200 proadcasts all the time. Oh well, Aaron Rodgers threw that 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.480 ball away. We must have been that wide receiver ran 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.400 the wrong route. That's not necessarily true. So I get 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.280 kind of upset that we are changing the narrative of 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:34.159 a team game into a popularity contest, which really sides 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:38.320 quarterbacks to get more money than they really should be getting. 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.160 And this is coming from a former Union rep. And Bill, 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:42.960 let me make two points before we he go to 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.720 a break and just talking about what Everson said. You know, 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.639 I understand Tom Brady, I understand his value, right, but 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.840 that Tampa defense pulled his butt out of that last 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.639 championship game in the conference. He threw three interceptions right, 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.800 Todd Bowl Todd ball right exactly. And then my other 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.320 point is when you got to be careful with these 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:08.320 these these quarterback contracts. Looked what's going on in Houston 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:12.720 right now with Deshaun Watson. Suddenly he's upset and he 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:17.560 wants out right, well, to cut him it or release 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:22.440 him now before June one, it would cost Houston sixty 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.880 seven million dollars in dead money. Do you think it's 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.200 any coincidence that the new GM said, no, we don't 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.520 want to get rid of them, and if they trade them, 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.760 it's twenty one point six million in dead money. So 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.120 that's why the price for trade in one of these quarterbacks, 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.639 you get so much back because of the money dump 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:45.919 that's involved in this whole thing. So that has a 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:50.120 lot to do what's going on with some of these trades. 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:53.200 But you gotta be careful with these quarterbacks because they 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:57.080 get upset and then they they they basically hold up 0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:01.199 the entire franchise. Right, It's like, Okay, I gotta have 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.800 my way. I want to pick the GM, I want 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.439 to pick the head coach. And if you don't acquiesce 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.480 to them and you give in, I'll guarantee you. And 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:13.160 Everson knows this. The line starts out the door at 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.440 the owner's office. Right, Okay, I'm next. I'm not happy. J. J. Watt. 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.760 I want to go play for somebody that wins. This 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:24.760 ain't the NBA, right, You cannot manipulate the salary cap 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:27.399 you way you can. In the NBA, it got a 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:32.560 lot of you are right on the quarterback and how 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:37.960 you structure the deal. Okay, so Nette, let me tease 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.399 the rest of the show this way. All right, all right, 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:43.800 we've got a big news story of the week. Jared 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:48.520 Goff traded for Matthew Stafford. We've got Patrick Mahomes versus 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.639 Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. See that. Listen to that? 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:58.000 What I just say? All right here, you're killing me 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:04.359 a little comparison Jared Goff. Jared Goff against the Tampa 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:10.840 Bay Buccaneers Sunday before Thanksgiving completed thirty nine out of 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.199 fifty one passes for three hundred and fifty yards and 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:18.480 three touchdowns in a twenty seven, twenty four Rams win 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.760 that made the Rams seven and three on the season. 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.919 What Everson was talking about earlier, The Rams were actually 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.680 playing very well at that point of the season. Okay. 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:32.240 The next week, Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs go to 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.480 that same stadium at Tampa and Patrick Mahomes was thirty 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:40.600 seven out of forty nine for four hundred and fifty 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:44.840 yards and three touchdowns, same as Golf in a twenty seven, 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.639 twenty four Kansas City win over Tampa Bay, the exact 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:52.120 same score as the Rams win the week before. Here 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.440 we are two months later. Jared Goff is headed to Detroit. 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.880 Patrick Mahomes is headed back to Tampa for Super Bowl 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:02.760 fifty five, a super Bowl that is being called by 0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:10.200 CBS analyst Tony Romo a generational matchup of quarterbacks, Everson 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:15.679 This would be like Michael Jordan against Lebron James in 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:19.440 an NBA Finals. 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Oh, it was a little while ago, but 0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.679 it was the good old days when we weren't talking 0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:21.520 about quarterback matchups in a Super Bowl. We were talking 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:27.040 about cornerback matchups in a Super Bowl in Tampa nineteen 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.720 ninety one. Take us back in time, Mickey, Yes, absolutely so. 0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.440 If my math is right, that's thirty years ago, right, 0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:38.840 kind of an anniversary here. It was Super Bowl twenty five. 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:46.560 I believe it was January twenty seventh and one. Everson Walls, 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:51.160 playing for the New York Football Giants, went into Tampa 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:56.760 Stadium against the Buffalo Bills in in that Super Bowl, 0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.360 and I just kind of stumbled across this. It was 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:05.719 a twenty nineteen victory for the Giants, and for some reason, 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.160 I don't know what I was looking up, but I 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:13.640 found this quote from Bill Belichick after the game, and 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:18.160 he would have been the Giants defensive coordinator in that game, 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.400 and Belichick was quoted as saying, we wouldn't have won 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:27.960 the game if Walls didn't make that tackle. And I 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.720 was at the game, by the way, I was covering it. 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:34.720 As a matter of fact, when Scott Norwood was kicking 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:38.120 the field goal at the end to try to win 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.760 it that he missed. It was right on deadline for 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:46.040 the newspaper for the Times Herald and everybody else had 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.640 time to go down right to go do interviews. I 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.720 was right on deadline, and I remember standing in my 0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.120 seat leaning out the window of the press box to 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.080 watch this field goal to see if it was gonna 0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.120 be good or not. Right, That was my memory of 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:08.960 that game. But what Belichick was talking about was with 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.200 a minute forty eight left in the game, Buffalo was 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:16.600 on their nineteen yard line. It was third and inches, 0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:21.560 and they tried a kind of counter handoff to Thurman Thomas, 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:26.200 who went twenty two yards and had not one Everson 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:33.000 Walls made the tackle on that play. Thurman Thomas looks 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.800 like he's going for a touchdown from the video I saw. 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:42.120 When you see the play, there is nobody behind Everson 0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.920 Walls if he doesn't make that tackle. And Belichick went 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:53.640 on to say also afterwards, that was the play of 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.600 the game, and I think we have video of it. 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.880 We might be able to show at least the tackle 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:05.840 along with uh Afterwards, after Scott Norwood miss the field goal, 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.840 Everson Walls making his celebration that ended up on the 0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.520 cover of Sports Illustrated, by the way, and as a 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:15.880 matter of fact, I want to show you what I 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:22.320 got here. This is the game program from that Super Bowl, 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.880 and so I'm looking through it to see where's Everson 0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:29.560 Wall's picture and everything. Well, you know what, I've got 0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:34.160 two of them if if and when we show together again, right. 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.280 But the weird thing was is if you remember there 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:41.200 was a week there was only one week between the game. 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.880 There was not two weeks, So everything in this program 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.640 had nothing to do with either team playing in the game. 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.280 I'm looking through it, I'm going, what the hell? Right? 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.320 And then I got I reminded myself that they won 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:58.200 in San Francisco on a Sunday and flew all night 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:02.720 to Tampa and guy in early on Monday morning. So 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.920 I just thought we'd asked eversonce. So do you remember 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.480 the play the way I described it and what was 0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.760 going where did you line up and what was going 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:17.440 through your mind on that snap? No? It was you 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:21.400 know at that time, Buffalo was the greatest show on turf, right, Yeah, 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:25.040 I mean they were bawling. They had blown out Miami 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:32.080 and Oakland the consecutive playoff games like fifty something to something, 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:35.760 forty four to nothing. I mean they were bawling. I 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.720 think that year we were the only ones to keep 0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:41.280 Buffalo under twenty points all season. I could be wrong 0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:44.920 about nineteen ninety, but they beat us. They beat us 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:49.320 seventeen to like fourteen in Jersey, and so we knew 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.480 what we had in store for us. So here we 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:53.920 are two minutes to go, basically a two minute drill, 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:59.560 and what we had done all game long was to 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.280 keep them at bay. You know, no big plays because 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.160 big players are gonna kill you, and they're gonna kill 0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.520 you morale. So Belichick had us play in that fashion. 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.000 The only thing that surprised me about that game was 0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.040 the fact that he had me calling the plays the 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.560 entire game they played. We played pretty much Nickel and 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.880 Dime the entire game. So I was back at safety, 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.040 which is what I usually am on Nickel and Dime. 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:27.760 So they're going no huddle on Buffalo side. We needed 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.960 someone to be in the secondary to make those calls. 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.240 He chose me. I think I was the oldest one 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.720 back there at the time, and so during that play, 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:40.640 during that drive, the handoff was easy to see. Backs 0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:45.520 the beginning of that Amba defense, right, we talked about 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.720 that Amiba defense. Belichick comes up with, well, we only 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:52.000 had one defensive lineman in the game, so when the 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.280 handoff was made, the hole was easy to make. We 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:59.680 only had three lines, three down players, only one was 0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.960 a lineman, so he's coming right at me. I saw 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.120 it right away, so I never took my drop to 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.560 go to cover two. When I recognized what was happening. 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.680 I wanted to make sure it wasn't a fleet flicker, 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.560 so I just go running up. But I saw where 0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:17.080 he had already crossed a line of scrimmage. I'm coming up, 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.759 and according to Thermon Thomas, I talked to him like 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.359 almost ten years after this play, he said he never 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:28.120 saw me. Spags. He said, he never saw me. And 0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.440 that's one of those things about football to where you 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:35.719 can be too smart. Sometimes he didn't. He didn't expect 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:37.720 me to be there because they knew what the defense 0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.080 would be. We were predictable. It's to cover two. All 0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.440 he's thinking is, once I get by those linebackers, my 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.040 eyes are going to work. I can score a touchdown 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.399 because the safeties are gonna be half to field. Well, 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.320 I wasn't half to feel. I chose not to because 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.319 I recognized it. And when I came up and made 0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.880 the play, although it was twenty two yards down, the 0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:03.000 field covered that ground very quickly. I did not know 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.600 its twenty two yards Fags. He covered that ground extremely quickly. 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.279 Next thing you know, he's on me and I make 0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:13.200 a pretty unspectacular tapple. It's just the fact that we 0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.720 were able to bring him down and so I didn't 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:20.480 know what was behind me. You mentioned that Parcels was asked, 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:25.960 what would happen if Everson Walls misses that plate and 0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.320 h he's They asked, what do you think mil and 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.800 Gotton would have caught it? And they said, yes, maybe 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:37.680 in the parking lot. That's what parselves response was. So 0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.040 he was thinking about how you would think his fads 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:43.680 in regards to that game, in regards to that place. 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.760 So how fitting it? How fitting is this you guys 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:53.920 for for Everson Wall's career, you know, not recruited to college, 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.720 wasn't drafted in the NFL, had to fight for everything 0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:02.120 it gets. So I read about the play and I said, Okay, 0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.279 I gotta go find it. So I found the official 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.799 play by play of the Super Bowl and I'm I'm 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:13.080 going through here looking for the play, and all I 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:17.400 was looking for was a Thurman Thomas run and an 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.520 Everson Walls tackle right, and I'm going through and going 0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:25.320 through and the game's over and I where's the tackle? 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:30.000 So I'd looked and they credited the tackle to not 0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:36.040 twenty eight fifty eight Carl Banks. He's on the other side. 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.640 He wouldn't even in the place that well maybe he 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.239 jumped in and head an assist and they gave no, 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:46.800 it wasn't. It was a solo diving tackle. But Everson Walls, 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.200 if you ever go back in history to look for 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.120 your tackle, it is not on the play by play sheet. 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.520 I got one more thing forace bags, because you've got 0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:00.000 the official play by play. I think it was Dan Diodoff, Yeah, 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.680 was the color commentator. And you know, once again, this 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:08.200 whole quarterback thing, there was never an emphasis on how 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:12.120 important for tackle was during the play because all they 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:16.040 wanted to talk about was how Jim Kelly was in 0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.879 the in position to leave them down the field. So 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:24.080 just the tone deafness of some commentators can be, you know, 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:29.880 different ways. Dick Lynch, the former Diglitz, the Great Diglitz, 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:33.880 the commentator for the New York Giants, he ended up 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.840 actually giving me way. If you go back and listen 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:42.400 to his broadcast of that play, he literally calls it 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.000 out right there. He said, I might have saved the game. 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.440 He said that right there. So it's just funny how 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.680 you have different commentators looking at these games. But that 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.880 was old school. When you're talking about Bill. There was 0:37:54.960 --> 0:38:00.640 no Jeff Hostetler versus Jim Kelly. Necessarily in that game, 0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:03.759 the hight wasn't the way it is right now. And 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:06.600 if you want to go back to where how the 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:11.719 mentality was in New York MVP of by season and 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:16.719 the MVP of that game was a running back in O. J. Anderson. 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.839 So that's why I know I know this is that 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.560 was nineteen ninety one and it is what it is today. 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:31.200 But nothing to me has changed. Defense still wins ball games, 0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:36.400 and that's how we ended up dominating that entire season. 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.640 We got more cheers for an eighty yard touchdown, I'm sorry. 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.600 We got more cheers for a sack on third and 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:47.160 two and turning the ball over then we would get 0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.200 for an eighty yard touchdown. That's the mentality that they 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.640 had in New Jersey at that time. And you know 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.280 in the video the video I saw and I wasn't. 0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.160 I couldn't. I thought it was Dan Dear Dorri's voice. 0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.000 It might have been the it was pieced together, so 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.160 it could have been the radio guy for the Giants 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.560 of the time. But they did say a great open 0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:11.719 field tackle by Everson Walls. That's dig Lynch. That would 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:16.360 be dig Lynch right there. That's right. And then of 0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:20.960 course what I remember from that was Scott Norwood missfield goal. Okay, 0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.560 but the twenty to nineteen game, and then from that 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:28.040 season two, Everson, you talk about defense. It just here 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.319 we are thirty years later, and what sticks in my 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:34.000 mind is the fifteen thirteen win in the conference championship 0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.959 game over San Francisco, you know, and they kept Joe 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.880 Montana off the field, by the way, and that was 0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.200 the difference in that game. Mother knocked him off the 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.840 field at the time the game was over. Yeah. And 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.879 one other memory from that Super Bowl covering it. It 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:53.560 was during the Gulf War, by the way, and I 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:59.279 remember before the game, those Blackhawk helicopters were flying over 0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:03.080 the stadium. They had cleared the airspace. They were circling 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:07.279 the stadium and they had the side doors to the 0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:11.920 helicopter open and you could see open. You could see 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:16.600 the guns pointing out that door. Uh. And it was 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.880 like it was it was chilling to see that. And 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:24.200 I remember the national anthem was pretty emotional also, uh 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:28.000 that game. And the other thing I remember, I was 0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:32.600 able to get two tickets to the game and my 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.879 sister brought my dad to the game. And he got 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:39.040 to watch a Super Bowl in the stadium. He had 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.160 failing eyesight, but he could hear it and he could 0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.040 my sister can interpret to him. And it was a 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.600 pretty neat day. That's Sunday for me. That's nice facts, 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.560 that's good stuff like that. Brother, And he got to 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.520 see the Jiant. Well he can't possibly see the Giants 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.640 kick ass, right, So that's that's a that That was 0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:59.879 a great, great day for everybody all the way around. 0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.160 I was saying, And now we go back to Tampa, 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:06.439 a new stadium U for this Super Bowl fifty five 0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:12.560 on Sunday. Hey, guys, we gotta take a break. I 0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.680 don't know, I've lost contact with you, and so I 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:20.000 am going to toss it to break. Okay, I've lost contact. 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:27.400 But now when you think about it, it's facts that game. 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.040 The way the security was in that game, that was 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.800 the first game where we were. It depicted how we 0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:40.600 had our security evolved in the in consequent games. Yeah, 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:46.880 long lines, you know, extra security, extra wanding and everything. 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.160 I remember my family was there, came for the game, 0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:53.799 and my sister was sick, my mom was sick, and 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:57.239 my mom decided not to come and my sister. She 0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:02.160 braved it out and she almost painted in line because 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.560 it was hot. It was hot, and it was a long, 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:07.520 long line. It took a while in line in that 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:12.160 long line, and she was she she was able to 0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:15.040 make it in by the grace of God. But that's 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.040 how much they wanted to see that baby brother kicks 0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.120 some ass. So there's your walk down memory lane, and 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:25.000 will continue with nick shots in a moment. 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Traditionally, in a normal Super Bowl week, on Saturday, 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:20.320 the Hall of Fame Committee all convene on the Saturday 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.640 before the game. They spend all day discussing the candidates 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:27.640 and in person of course, in the Super Bowl city, 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:31.120 and then on Saturday night, on what has now turned 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.080 into Super Bowl Saturday Night, the Hall of Fame class 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:38.240 is presented. But late that afternoon, David Baker, the President 0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.880 of the Hall of Fame, will go by the hotel 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:45.480 rooms of the finalists and inform them that they have 0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:49.560 made it into the Hall of Fame I think there's 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:53.239 a one hundred percent chance that Drew Pearson is going 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:58.040 to go into the Hall of Fame and find out Saturday. Please, man, 0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:03.000 we had enough trauma these days. You know, they did 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:08.840 a virtual discussion a couple of weeks ago. There was 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:13.240 a fan vote that ended on January thirty first, and Mickey, 0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.680 I'm unclear on whether how much discussion they still need 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:21.560 to do on Saturday, if any. I think I think 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.520 that they went ahead and voted at the end of 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.560 that discussion a couple of weeks ago. But I may 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.640 be wrong, but I think, you know, David Baker has 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.960 made it a habit, even last year when he surprised 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.759 Jimmy Johnson on the set at Fox, where you know 0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:39.360 he wants to make the presentation to people. I just 0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.719 would not be surprised if David Baker winds up at 0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:46.399 Drew Pearson's doorstep here in Dallas and uh and makes 0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:50.480 a presentation to him at some point later in the week. Well, 0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.759 I would imagine it's gonna be a virtual knock on 0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.359 the door, because I can't imagine they're flying all these 0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.680 guys in the Tampa to for starters and that probably 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.920 they're not doing that. Yeah, they'll virtually hook up. But 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:10.000 he's the lone senior finalist, and normally those guys get in. 0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.360 They just kind of rubber stamp it. But as you know, 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:17.680 Drew knows, the year before when they were inducting the 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:21.080 centennial class, it looked like he was going to get in, 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.320 and he didn't get in after a thirty seven year 0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:30.960 wait and check out these these stats on Drew who 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:35.040 played from nineteen seventy three through eighty three with the Cowboys. 0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:38.160 We know the history, we know the big plays he 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:42.719 made at eleven year career, but here's the background on 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:46.359 this and and and how he didn't get in yet 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:52.080 is still astounds me. There were twenty two First Team 0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:58.000 All Decade selections in nineteen seventies. Twenty one of them 0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:01.280 have a bust in Canton. The only one that doesn't, 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:07.600 it's Drew Pearson. He's also the only first teamer that 0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:11.960 had never been discussed as a finalist as a finalist 0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:17.080 after all these years, and check this out. From nineteen 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:21.000 thirty through twenty ten, a span of eight decades, there 0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:26.520 were seventeen wide receivers selected First Team All Decade. Sixteen 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:30.520 of them they have busts in Canton, and again, Pearson 0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:35.080 was the only first team wide receiver not enshrined. And 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:40.600 there were second team All Decade receivers from seventies, eighties, nineties. 0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:45.160 They all have busts in the Call of Fame except 0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:51.080 for Drew Pearson. So this is a long overdue award 0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:56.920 for for Drew. And I heard an interesting comment and 0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.640 I don't know Everson if you'll agree with this since 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:06.680 you been close, but Chris Carter was being interviewed on 0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:12.200 NFL network. I believe it was, oh, maybe it was Friday, 0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:16.920 and he was another guy that waited a while to 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:20.480 get in, and so they asked him, you know when 0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:24.840 you finally get in, did you feel vindicated? And he 0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:28.920 said he said, no, he goes once you're in, and 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:33.120 you know you were in this exclusive group. It doesn't 0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:36.000 matter how long it took you to get in. You're in, 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:40.759 and he goes in, and you have a justification that 0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:44.040 you were one of the greatest players in the National 0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.840 Football League. And I think he mentioned something like there's 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:50.040 been twenty five thousand guys to play in the NFL 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:54.239 over all these years, and there's only three hundred. I 0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:56.080 don't have the number, off top of my head, three 0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:58.560 hundred and fifty people in the Hall of Fame, so 0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:02.120 it's in a pretty exclusive group. And as mad as 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:08.560 Drew was after being eliminated this previous time, I would 0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:14.080 think once he's in, he's gonna be very grateful. I 0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:17.960 think he was already pretty grateful even when he realized 0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.239 he was the only senior guy that was up. He 0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:22.920 was even smiling then. I think that was around a 0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.520 month ago or so, and it was good to see 0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.640 him smiling in regards to Hall of Fame as opposed 0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:31.200 to what we would call you know when you look 0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:34.200 at this stuff and it's it's always you know more 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.440 than I would spags because you're reported. I don't know 0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:41.200 if you're a voter or not. But when you have 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:46.480 a team like the Cowboys, is where does the failure 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:51.759 come from in regards to recognition Drew Pierson not only 0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:53.279 and you may have brought this up. There's a lot 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:57.080 of statue brought up spats. Drew Pearson was the last, 0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:03.279 not just first teamer all decade. I think all the 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:08.920 second teamers got in before he did, at least from 0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:12.960 the wide receiver position. Because Harold Carmichael was the second 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:17.360 team All Decade wide receiver and he got in before 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:22.520 Drew Pierson just this pastime. So it was almost as 0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:27.040 if it was so glaring of an admission, it almost 0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:31.280 seemed to be personal. Of course, as a former Cowboy 0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:35.680 and Cowboy fan, I think you think it's personal by 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.480 the other Hall of Fame voters. We've always had this 0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:42.279 rumor that the Cowboys were getting snubbed because the other 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:45.840 Hall of Fame voters never liked the American team Moniker 0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.439 that was placed on us by the by I think 0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:52.800 textum or whoever they have. Always there's always that that 0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:57.960 that belief by Cowboy fans and former Cowboy players. You know, 0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:02.880 you're looking a guy like t O, would you say that, 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.279 no matter how long it took to to get in, 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.360 is he actually happy to be in now? Is he 0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:16.000 a participant? Because when you have your own ceremony separate 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:19.720 from the Hall of Fame ceremony, I think you're making 0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:22.720 a clear statement. I don't think that has ever happened 0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:27.239 in the history of voting and accepting Pro Football Hall 0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:31.560 of Fame bus. So I don't know, man, I think 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:35.600 that Drew's omission is glaring. I can go down the 0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.480 line you're looking at how we long in the Hall 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:42.879 of Fame versus Harvey Martin not being in the Hall 0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:47.279 of Fame. You know, those type of glaring emissions. Omissions 0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:51.880 are just too much for me to ignore. I can 0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:54.879 start fussing about myself, but I'm not because I'm still 0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:58.719 upset about the other guys that came before me that 0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.560 should be in the NFL Hall of Fame. It took 0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:05.880 mel Renfro, It took Ray feel Right to the end 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.560 of their tenure and my rights, Bash yes, to be 0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.560 voted into the Hall of Fame. Mel Renfro was Hall 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.799 of was All Pro almost every year, not to mention 0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:18.000 the fact that he played in at least four Super Bowls. 0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:22.160 Ray Feel Right, if I'm not mistaken, was hall of 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:25.880 He gave up maybe ten sacks to Roger Starbucks or 0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:30.279 whatever quarterback Cowboys had to their blind side. That's the 0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:33.920 toughest position, and yet he has to wait till his 0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:39.359 tenures almost up. So I don't understand Bob Hayes. I 0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.759 was gonna bring out Bob because you know what that 0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:45.040 was that occurred. I want to say it occurred the 0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:49.160 year the Super Bowl was in in Houston. And he 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:56.480 made it to the final seven. Uh, it was and 0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:59.120 and and and he he made it to the finals 0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:02.440 and they could even ducted seven guys, right, and he 0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:07.040 basically got voted out. That he didn't get voted in, 0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:11.439 and he didn't go and excuse me for going down 0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:15.879 memory lane again, but he didn't. He didn't get in 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:20.160 until the Super Bowl. I believe it was the year 0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:24.560 the Super Bowl was in Tampa. The next time, it 0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:29.400 was the two thousand and nine January of two thousand 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.160 and nine. And the reason I remember this is Thursday 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:37.239 night before the game, I wrote this column on all 0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.399 the reasons why you want Bob Hayes in the Hall 0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.799 of Fame and how injustice it was that he wasn't in. 0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:49.400 And it was a Thursday night, and my mom passed 0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:52.600 away the day before the game. She lived in Florida, 0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:56.359 and I was fortunate enough to be there. I went 0:54:56.440 --> 0:55:00.239 to I was with her when she passed away. Then 0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:04.000 the game was on Sunday, but Bob finally got selected. 0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:07.680 He last played I want to say it was nineteen 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:12.759 seventy four. Nineteen seventy four, This was two thousand and nine. 0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:18.680 Bob Hayes changed the game and change and the way 0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:21.319 I looked at the Hall of Fame. It's not all 0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:25.360 about stats. I can tell you Drew Pearson played eleven years, 0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:29.200 had four hundred and eighty nine receptions, forty eight touchdowns, 0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:32.960 all this stuff. But the job of the Pro Football 0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:37.080 Hall of Fame is to preserve the history of the game. 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:41.160 Not the statistical history, but the history of the game. 0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:46.719 In thirty years, will anybody remember or we won't be 0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:50.960 here to tell the story about the Hill Mary, about 0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:54.600 him catching that pass. So that needs to be preserved 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.960 in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The same thing 0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:01.880 with Bob Hayes. He changed the game, his speed changed 0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:04.839 the game, but there's going to be a point where 0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:09.360 people that saw him play know what he did, won't 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:12.120 be here to relay that story. It needs to be 0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:15.719 preserved in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And I 0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:19.600 think what happens these days. Everson is number one. You're 0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:23.160 right about the East Coast bias against the Cowboys at 0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:27.440 number two. The voting committee has turned over so greatly 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:31.880 that people voting now did not see guys play in 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:34.960 the seventies. They didn't see guys play in the sixties. 0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:37.440 They might not have seen you play in the eighties. 0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:39.680 Let me let me interrupt you on that. Let me 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:43.520 interrupt you on that, because that is a factor. Correct. 0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:46.440 But my thing is this, if you accept and I 0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:48.279 think I may have said this on the show, if 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:52.480 you accept that position as a younger player coming in, 0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:55.759 a younger writer, reporter coming in, and you're going to 0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:59.080 be voting on this, you do a disservice to your 0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:02.040 job and all the voters around you. If you don't 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:07.240 do your job, if you don't do your research, that's 0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:09.919 what you're there for. Oh well, I can only vote 0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:13.239 on guys that I saw play. Well, how stupid is that? 0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:16.400 Then you shouldn't be a voter. We have access to 0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:20.280 almost any type of information that we need on this 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:22.520 little box thing I got right in front of me, 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:26.840 and you're telling me you don't have the ability to 0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:30.200 go back and do your research. You don't have access 0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:34.960 to all of the NFL films that you need to 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:38.560 have access to vote on a Drew Pierson, to vote 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:42.040 on a hell call, Michael rayphel right, even go back 0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:46.400 further than that. That's your job. If it's too much 0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:50.320 for you, then get out because you've got a lot 0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:53.680 of work to do when you're talking about salvaging these 0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:57.320 guys relationship that they fought tooth and there for that 0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:01.080 they shed so much blood for not just for themselves 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:03.400 and for the family, but for their teammates and for 0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:05.920 this league that the Hall of Fame voters are supposed 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:11.280 to be representing. So it's a connection that you can't break. 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.680 And even I say this, fag, I maybe out of line. 0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:20.000 I usually am. When you've got tex Shram and guys 0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:25.000 like that controlling not just our negotiations and our salaries 0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:28.280 and our reputation, but you've also got certain Hall of 0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:32.000 Fame voters for the cowboys back in the day that 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:38.440 was colluding. I guess with the owners sometimes that memory 0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:42.000 that text has because he had one like a fricking elephant. 0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:48.440 Those grudges are sometimes displayed through the lack of Dallas 0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:53.960 cowboys in the Hall of Fame. You talked to I talk. 0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:55.720 I don't even want to say their names, but they 0:58:55.720 --> 0:58:58.960 have actually said to me that they have been informed 0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:04.560 that the pushback from some Hall of famers comes from within. 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:11.160 So we're being cannibalistic as cowboys. We're eating our own. 0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:15.360 Let the rains go. Talk about what Harvey Martin did 0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:18.960 as a player, how many sacks he had, the fact 0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:21.480 that he had so many they took away too. If 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:25.200 I'm not mistaken, all of these things, to me are 0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:28.360 a part of a legacy that is really a shame 0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:31.600 here in Dallas. And it doesn't start in New York 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:35.960 and East Coast necessarily, Spags. It started right here before 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.000 we even got to Valley Ranch. That was over there 0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:40.960 in Forest Laying Abrams, where I used to drive my 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.960 raggedy car down to practice every day, which was a 0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:51.080 little bit better than your Yes, hey, we got a 0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.560 minute left. We got one minute left. I got one 0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:59.280 more thing. Who's gonna Who's gonna win the Super Bowl? 0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:07.080 Brady or my Holmes? Can I just say the Kansas 1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:10.440 City Chiefs? Please? Can I just say that? Can I? 1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:13.760 Can I be politically incorrect and just say Chiefs? Judging 1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:16.520 from the first time Mickey, the first time they met, 1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:19.200 judging from the first time they met, Tyrek Hill is 1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:23.400 gonna win the Super Bowl? That's exactly right. In fact, 1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:27.000 that leads me to my parting comment. Do yourself a 1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:29.840 favor if you've got NFL game pass and go back 1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:33.640 and watch the Week twelve matchup between the Bucks and 1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:38.400 the Chiefs, I mean between Brady and Mahomes, and I 1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:41.680 mean that that is a great way to prepare for 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:44.640 this game. And it's going to be very interesting to 1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:47.760 see what Todd Bowles has up his sleeve this time 1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:51.520 instead of maybe the single high safety that Mahomes was 1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:54.600 facing last time when Tyreek Hill in that game. He 1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:57.960 had over two hundred yards receiving in the first quarter 1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:02.200 of that game, which went round up being Now Bulls 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:04.439 made adjustments as that game went on and it wound 1:01:04.520 --> 1:01:06.840 up being a good game. Twenty seven twenty four Kansas 1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:10.080 City one. But I'm so you're taking the Chiefs, Everson 1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:14.240 Nicky're taking the check who the chief Chiefs? And I'll 1:01:14.240 --> 1:01:17.040 take the Chiefs also, So there you go. We're in agreement. 1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:23.280 We're picking against Tom Brady. Go no, no, we're picking 1:01:23.320 --> 1:01:30.120 against the Bucks. Damn it. Everybody's all right, that does it? 1:01:30.400 --> 1:01:33.480 And I got to score. It's gonna be twenty to nineteen. 1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:36.040 Ryan suck Up's gonna miss a field goal on the 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:40.920 last play of the game, thirty years after. Scott Norwood. 1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:44.120 All right, we'll talk at you again next Tuesday. Here 1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:49.760 on Mix Shots Go Cowboys. This has been a production 1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:53.640 of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.