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Speaker 1: Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host

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Speaker 1: of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your

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Speaker 1: American wilderness better. We'll talk about tactics, gear conservation who

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Speaker 1: also bring you into some of the wildest country on

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Speaker 1: the planet. Chasing battery. On this episode of the Bear

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Speaker 1: Hunting Magazine Podcast, we're getting back into some tactical how

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Speaker 1: to stuff. They are good friends at Northwood's Bear Products.

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Speaker 1: We're talking with one of the owners, Kolbe McReynolds. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about baiting bears. We're gonna talk about how

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Speaker 1: to use commercial sense inside of baiting bears, so you

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Speaker 1: can hear about some of their products. But mainly what

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Speaker 1: we're trying to do is educate people on how to

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Speaker 1: use their scent products, because if you're baiting bear, it

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Speaker 1: just makes sense to be using commercial sense because they

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Speaker 1: put off a more powerful scent profile than basically any

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Speaker 1: some great natural sense that you can use as well.

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Speaker 1: As we get into this, it's a little bit different

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Speaker 1: than what we've been doing. Again, this is like a

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Speaker 1: tactical podcast, which is that's why a lot of people want.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of a nerd when it comes to tactics,

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Speaker 1: but I'm also a sucker for a good story and

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Speaker 1: of those things combined. I also want to put in

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Speaker 1: there the conservation angle, which I think is so important

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Speaker 1: on everything that we do inside of bear hunting. Hunting

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Speaker 1: over bait is often misperceived as as many many different things,

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Speaker 1: and they're doing yourself bated hunts I do here in

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Speaker 1: for selective harvests inside of hunting. If you're targeting an older,

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Speaker 1: that's using bait takes years before he harvests an animal

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Speaker 1: not a real fair analogy, but from a conservation angle,

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Speaker 1: Actually I haven't killed a bait a bear over bait

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Speaker 1: they're just putting out donuts and bait. That's not fair, Chase.

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Speaker 1: That's not hunting man. It is, And you've caught me

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Speaker 1: on my soapbox because as hunters I feel like we

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Speaker 1: that are designed to make bear populations thrive, like in Oklahoma, Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, you're gonna like it. Welcome to Bear Honey

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Speaker 1: Magazine Podcast. We are again at the A T A

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Speaker 1: Show Archery Trade Association Show twenty nineteen Louisville, Kentucky, and

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Speaker 1: I've got with me Kolby and Bernie and uh, Golby,

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Speaker 1: want to hear from you Colby. Colby is the one

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Speaker 1: exactly what you said. You know, we manufacture bear attractants,

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Speaker 1: All right, Bernie Barringer, I'm just a guy that's addicted

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Speaker 1: email news blast? Yeah? And uh. And I've been sponsored

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Speaker 1: You could also drive a Pento station wagon instead of

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Speaker 1: an escalade too, if you want. But these really make

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Speaker 1: their gold Rush. It is Uh. It's a super concentrated

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Speaker 1: too far they're not overly far from one another. He

426
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: swears by blueberry and that's all he does, you know,

427
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: is blueberry powder, blueberry spray sin, and gold rush. So

428
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's you know, I think it's a

429
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 1: lot to do with personal opinion and what you perceive

430
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: your bears. How you're therey acting to the scent that

431
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: you're you're putting out. Um, I can't say that that

432
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: I have you know, a far way favorite, right, Yeah,

433
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: that that just outperforms everything else, you know. I I

434
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: tend to lean on blueberry a lot when I'm in

435
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Only you know, just let me ask you

436
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 1: a question, do you like blueberries? That's why exactly, that's

437
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: the way I pick it. I'm like when I get

438
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: I get multiple kinds of northwoods every year, and I

439
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: think it depends on whether I'm hungry or not. I'm like,

440
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: do I get the get the blueberry or the doughnut?

441
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: Oh donuts? Right exactly. I'm kind of being funny, but

442
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm being serious. I think I think a lot of it.

443
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: Like to this is what I've always tried to understand

444
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: is a bear doesn't perceive the world like a human

445
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: does they? And we know that from the way that

446
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: they interact with bait. A bear would rather eat a

447
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: white oak acorn as he would a glaze donut. To us,

448
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense. I mean, like, so I

449
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: feel like they're interacting with this scent different than we

450
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: are and it and so you know, we're and we're

451
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: trying to humanize them in a way like oh, he'd

452
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: like a donut. Yeah. But and I'm not saying that's negative.

453
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying probably any of them would work. That's

454
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: my point. That's that's my point. I couldn't agree more

455
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: with you, you know, And I think any of them

456
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: will work, you know, And I think we gravitate to

457
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: the ones that are more potent, you know, the ones

458
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: that reach out and slap you in the nose. You know,

459
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: that's the ones. We gravitated to them. Oh my gosh,

460
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: that smells so powerful. So it's unbelievable to you and I.

461
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: It is. They can smell you know, what is it

462
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: three thousand times better than you and I. So it's yeah,

463
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable. Um. So, yeah, like I said, we

464
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: gravitate towards those that are more pungent and everything, and

465
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: what we associate with that with that region, you know,

466
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: like in Minnesota, Wisconsin. And that's a valid point. Is

467
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: that what you were going to talk about. I was

468
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: gonna mention that I think that people. You know, I

469
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: worked at booth with these guys quite a bit and

470
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: people come walking by and they look and they go, um, oh, yeah,

471
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: they got a blueberry scent. You know, we got blueberries

472
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: in our area. Bears probably eat blueberries, will try that.

473
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: You know. It's either that or they It's like, you say,

474
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: where this one. I would like to put this one

475
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 1: on my pancakes. I'm gonna take this one, you know.

476
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: So you know, everybody judges different, But the reality is,

477
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: what what we're doing here is is we're just putting

478
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: a scent in the air that a bear walks down

479
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: win and he goes, you know, I gotta walk over

480
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: there and check that out. That's that's really all we're doing.

481
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: And um, all of the flavors will do that at

482
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: the right times. And you know, I keep saying this,

483
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: but bears are individuals, and some of them will prefer

484
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: a candy scent, and someone will prefer a fruit scent,

485
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: and someone will prefer more of a like a like

486
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: the beaver cast or something like that. So it's really

487
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: hard to say which one could be the best. I'll

488
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: never forget when I first baiting bears in Arkansas. I

489
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: heard a lady that was she I just remember who

490
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: she was. She's become a friend of mine that she

491
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: she told me a story and at the time of

492
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: something I've never seen, but she said she one day

493
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: put out these little fried pies, you know, like a

494
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: blueberry pie and a lemon pie, like you'd buy at

495
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: a gas station, just like individually. And she said a

496
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: bear came in and he picked through those pies, and

497
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: when he would bite into a lemon pie, he would

498
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: it spit it out, and then he'd go in. And

499
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: I learned that is that they're just like us. Yeah,

500
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: they are. They're just like us. They have specific flavors.

501
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: I had some. Uh. I bought a bunch of gummy

502
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: bears one time and one of the boxes that accidentally

503
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: got thrown in it was sour gummy bears, and I

504
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: gave that. It was like I put it out, the

505
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: bears didn't need it. And another guy I was saw

506
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: I met the Lucky seven bear beat when I was

507
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: there the next time. I said, yeah, I tried to

508
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: sour gummy bears and the guy is like, oh, man,

509
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: I use the heck out of those. They work great,

510
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Like the bear that came in wouldn't need them, so

511
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're all they're all different. And uh,

512
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: it's funny how bears will pick through a bait and

513
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: one barrel come in and he'll dig through all the

514
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: sweets and he'll dig down to the beef at or

515
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: whatever you know. And um, I had a situation where

516
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: times a year when they do that, yeah, way through

517
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: all the doughnuts to get to I've seen one way

518
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: through donuts later in the fall season and grab a

519
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: beef bone and crunch it. Yeah. I mean like and

520
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a minute, you're you're crunching on a

521
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: rotten bone rather than eating these fresh donuts. But just

522
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: for that time of year, that's what they wanted. And

523
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: I one time I had a guy had a fruit

524
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: stand that gave me a bunch of watermelons and I

525
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: took these watermelons and put them out on my bear

526
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: baits and I come back the next two three days

527
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: and these watermelons are just sitting there, and I'm like,

528
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: I guess they don't want watermelon. I just kind of

529
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: kicked one of them and to look inside of it

530
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: see if it was rotten or something like that. And

531
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: it looked okay to me. Well, I come back next

532
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: day and every watermelon was completely cleaned up. Well, they

533
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: just had never they just never opened it, I guess.

534
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: But once it was opened, they smelled it and they

535
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: ate it. So there's not many watermelons in the Minnesota bush, No,

536
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: not too many. It doesn't Watermelons don't do well that

537
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: that inn alligators, they don't do well in Minnesota. Anyway,

538
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: I gotta go to a meeting. Man, it's been great

539
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: talking with you, and uh, thanks for for everything that

540
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: you've done. And thanks for Northwits bear products. Man. I

541
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: got a great relationship with him. I love their products

542
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: and they've helped me kill a lot of bears. So

543
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: thanks man. Right on, Bernie, thank you, thank you Bernie.

544
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: Well Kobe, I think the I started off by talking

545
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: about how well, let me let me back up. Anybody

546
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: that's baiting bears, if you're going to invest the time

547
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: and energy into gathering bait, putting out debate site, you

548
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: need to be using commercial sense. And there's tons of

549
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: guys in the bear baiting community that don't because I mean,

550
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: it does cost money. It is another thing that you

551
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: have to buy. But my whole point to people is

552
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: and again the purpose being of this not even as

553
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: much to sell as Northwoods bear products, but just to

554
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: get people using sense in general, I mean, just the

555
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: whole concept of it um is that is that it's

556
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna make You're gonna attract more bears and over a

557
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: period of time you're gonna end up being able to

558
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: kill the bear you want, because it's just it's just

559
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: another layer to your strategy of attraction. And so just

560
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: in general, if you're baiting bears and you're not using

561
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: commercial sense, you're missing out. And then obviously we wanted

562
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: to buy, we want to buy from you guys, and

563
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: it's great stuff. So that's not what I'm saying. My

564
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: point is is that this is in the sales pitch.

565
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: This is a this is a pitch too, man, if

566
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna be putting in this energy and effort, trite tried,

567
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: and I have some um to me, the most beneficial

568
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: time that I've used these has been in starting a bait,

569
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: and uh, talk to me about like how you like

570
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: you like to use it, and so do I throughout

571
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: the baiting sequence, but like how do you how do

572
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 1: you use it? Okay? So Uh. So we're basically we're

573
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: speaking right now about gold rush is the product that

574
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about, um, you know, and we use it

575
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: the same way. That is absolutely how we fire up

576
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: every single one of our bait sites. We mixed gold

577
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: rush with fry oil shake it up this last year.

578
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: I actually, UM, usually what I do is, I'll take

579
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: five gallons of fry oil, I'll take an ounce or

580
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: two of gold rush poured in there, shake it up,

581
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: dump the majority of it on the ground in front

582
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: of the beat site, take the last little bit and

583
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: maybe throw it up, you know, maybe head high, just

584
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: to kind of cover that. You know, I guess his

585
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: own two is Bernie described it, you know. So UM.

586
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: This year, however, I want to try something new. UM.

587
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: I used the the grease UM, and I put it

588
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: in a one gallon uh spray pump like a weed sprayer. Okay,

589
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: And so I had a gallon of grease and I

590
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: hadded just basically a cap full of gold rush UM,

591
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: so the same ratio you know, UM, and pump that

592
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: baby up and I sprayed it on the ground, sprayed

593
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: it everywhere, and I was just able to kind of

594
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: broaden that area that I was dispersing the gold rush

595
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: into Now I was able to shoot it as at

596
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: a stream out further behind the bait site, you know,

597
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: whereas when you're pouring it out, you're concentrating right on

598
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: in front of the bait site. They're stepping in it.

599
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: And that's what you're doing, is you're increasing the surface

600
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: area that products so that you know, it can disperse

601
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: me yep. And and then the you know, the I

602
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: would spray it down the trails that where they were

603
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: walking in on um just you know, on the same

604
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: concept of getting it, you know, in the hair follicles,

605
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: even on their paths and everything, and they're taking that out.

606
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: They're doing the work for you at that point, you know,

607
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: so they're really spreading that out for you. UM. And

608
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: the hauling um power of gold rush is really unbelievable. UM.

609
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell a short story about an outfitter in northern

610
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Saskatchewan that very skeptical outfitters are by far the hardest

611
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: sell They've been doing it for a very very long

612
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: time at a very high level. UM, and so anything new,

613
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: they're very skeptical about anything they got to spend money on. Yeah,

614
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: you bet, you bet. And so we were having a

615
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: discussion with one UM and I said, well, hey, why

616
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: don't you just try one single bottle of gold rush

617
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: out on one bait and we'll see what happens, you know.

618
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: And and so we agreed to that. UM. So what

619
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: ended up happening, UM, And the exact numbers I don't remember, uh,

620
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: but it was somewhere around two boning Crockett bears and

621
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: four pop and young bears. And one week time came

622
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: off the same bait and the only bait they used

623
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: gold rush on at a bait. One of the boone

624
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: Crockett bears that came UM to this bait was completely nocturnal,

625
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: eight miles away, never had visited that bait site before,

626
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: showed up there during the daylight. UM. And they got

627
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: that bear and they have been after that bear for

628
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: a few years UM, and so he was completely he

629
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: sold from that point, just blew him away, you know.

630
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: And and uh, they joke about it, you know, the

631
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: guys that were in the camp that week, We've talked

632
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: to a few of them, were friends with a few

633
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 1: of them, and and they were like it was just

634
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was crazy, you know, that

635
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: they cherished that one eight ounce bottle of gold Rush

636
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: like it was actual gold. You know, it was. It was.

637
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: It was a neat story. And we've got multiple stories

638
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: like that, especially Yeah, go ahead, Well this would be

639
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: the kind of story that I hear. Did I hear

640
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: more of my good friend who's a I call him

641
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: the bear bait and Jedi of Arkansas, Ryan Grabb. He's

642
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: been on the podcast before. He uh, and again this

643
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: story isn't wasn't. He didn't make a big deal of this.

644
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: He just told me this is he had a buddy

645
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma that was bait and bears had a marginal property.

646
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: It was a property that didn't really attract that many bears,

647
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: but it was it was it was the private land

648
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: this guy had accessed all I had. He put out

649
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: a bear bait there and I want to say he

650
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: had the bait out for like three weeks and uh

651
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: and he had I don't remember what he was baiting with,

652
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: but it was good stuff. Not a single hit on

653
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: the bait. He calls Ryan and says, Ryan, what should

654
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: I do? Ryan Grabb said, you need to buy a

655
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: ball of gold rush. The guy bought it, put out

656
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: gold rush, and in two days had his first hit

657
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: on the bait, and that that's that's what it does.

658
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: And to go back even a little bit more in

659
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: depth on the original story I told about using a

660
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: drag rag. A couple of years ago baiting in Oklahoma.

661
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: Put out a bear bait in a place where I

662
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: had it was an established bait. I had baited there

663
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: one year before. Typically in baiting bears, if you you

664
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: know bears, remember where food is at certain times, and

665
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: so typically once you get going, it's pretty easy to

666
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: keep them coming in. I'd baited one year before, so

667
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: I thought, well, next year, leaving be better. I went

668
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: out and put out my bait. Like I waited pretty late.

669
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 1: I waited like two weeks before season, put up my bait,

670
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: came back eight days later and nothing had been to

671
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: the bait, which was really surprising, and I was like,

672
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: what's going on here? And Uh, that's when I did

673
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: the gold Rush drag rag. Just by foot, I cut

674
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: off some para cord, put about a four ft strip

675
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: hanging off my ankle, and went for a hike over

676
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: into another scent area, you know, like in the mountains

677
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: where we're hunting kolbe. And it's probably maybe the same

678
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: way where you're hunting, but like you might have your

679
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: bait down this valley and if the wind patterns aren't right,

680
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: that scent is kind of contained. And so I find

681
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: that if you can drag over into the next valley

682
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: or get it out into another opening. What I did

683
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: on this one was I walked down the creek to

684
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: where it hit a bigger creek, and then walked down

685
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: the bigger creek and basically spread out that scent signature

686
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: and then like eight hours or I can't remember. I

687
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: don't want to lie. It may not have been right.

688
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: It may not have been aid out. It was within hours,

689
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, maybe at most, I can't remember. There

690
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: was a change goal was there? And it actually worked

691
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: out great because my strategy that year was to wait

692
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: until close to season debate. I didn't want to bait

693
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: them for two months. And why was that? Was there

694
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: coition with it? Well, partly is it was. It took

695
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: a half a day to bait that one spot by

696
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: the time I drove there, and it was way back

697
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: in And I found in Arkansas, when we're competing against

698
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: natural food source in the fall, it's easy to hold

699
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: a bear for a week it's hard to hold a

700
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: bear for a month. And so if you can hit

701
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: it just right and start later, sometimes you can hold

702
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: a bear, you know. And every year I go back

703
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: and forth. Sometimes I like to do that soon as

704
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: they don't. But that year it bit me in the

705
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: rear end because at first, anyway, and I baited two

706
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: weeks before eight days in, still didn't have a bear.

707
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: So I was like dog gone, should have bit it earlier.

708
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: But then the gold rush saved me. And and and

709
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: when that first bear showed up, then all the bears

710
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: showed up. It was just like they were just out

711
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: of that area. They were just somewhere else and they

712
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: just needed a hint. Yeah, no, and I yeah, We've

713
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: had certain scenarios that are exactly the same, you know,

714
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: existing bait sites that we've had for twenty years. You know,

715
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: you bade them the first week and it should be

716
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: like clockwork, you know, you should have five six bears

717
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: in there, and you come back and and there isn't.

718
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: We had that this year, um in Minnesota where we

719
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: were at and uh, you know, so I think in

720
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: it that might be a little bit of a you know,

721
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: a misconception to um. You know, I think everybody thinks

722
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: that well clean newcome started a bear bait, there's gonna

723
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: be thirty bears on that beat site. It doesn't always

724
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: come easy, you know, and we gotta work for it

725
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: and change are maybe not our philosophy, but the way

726
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: we do things a little every year can be a

727
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: little bit different. Yeah, So you know, and and I

728
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: love the fact that you brought up that you you

729
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: do only bait two weeks prior to the season, or

730
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: maybe that's one way you've tried it and had some

731
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: success now with it, because we see it both ways. UM,

732
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: we get the question a lot. You know, even outfitters

733
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, they there's a very large time frame that

734
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: they can bait in Wisconsin. UM, in Canada, and you

735
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: know in other parts of the country as well. UM,

736
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: and in Minnesota, we can only wait two weeks prior

737
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: to the season opener, you know, when we have a

738
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: ton of success in Minnesota, and so then you know,

739
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: there isn't um quantity limitations though or anything like that.

740
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: We're in Wisconsin, UM, and I speak to Wisconsin a

741
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: lot because that's what I'm most familiar with and that's

742
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: where I'm from. UM. Maybe and maybe that would be

743
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: a good place to to give us an overview of

744
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people might not be familiar. But like

745
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 1: in some of the Northeastern states, you can only there's

746
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: no baiting, but you can use scent. You can use

747
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: a certain amount of scent, like in New York and

748
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: where else? Uh so New York and um man, New

749
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: York the first one that comes to mind. No, they

750
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: can't use anything at no no. Um. But we so

751
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: we do a show in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and that draws

752
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people from their surrounding states. And so

753
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm I can't remember the exact rules and regulations to

754
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: each and every sense. You can't, right yep. Um, Like

755
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina just opened up bear baiting this year. Um,

756
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: and it is hang on, Brian needs a bottle of

757
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: blueberry here, oh this spray here you go? Um so Um,

758
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: North Carolina opened up a bear baiting season this year,

759
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: and they can use like corn. Um. I want to say,

760
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: they can use peanuts, but there can't be any fat Yep, exactly,

761
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: it's got to be all natural. But um, a lot

762
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: of those states um up around that per area can

763
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: use up to two ounces, you know, and so that's

764
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: where our powders, and especially the gold Rush in a

765
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: in a format that isn't mixed with the with the

766
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: grease really comes into play. Um, we do a little

767
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: test where we'll, you know, tip the bottle of gold

768
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: Rush upside down, just let a little bit run into

769
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: the cap, take the cap off and wipe it out

770
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: with a just a uh Q tip yeah yep, and

771
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: hold it in front of their face and they can't

772
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: have it within four ft because it's just so pungent

773
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: and you know, so it really grabs their attention because

774
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: in a scent wick um application it works really well

775
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: as well. So you know those states that you know

776
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: are well listening maybe and they're saying, man, I'd love

777
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. I just can't. You know,

778
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: we can't bait. We can only use up to two

779
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: ounces you know of any sort of attract and um,

780
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: so there you go, I mean, are are gold Rush

781
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: can be used as a cent wick. Our spray Sense

782
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: could be used as a scent wick as well. Um,

783
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: Golder's gonna last a little longer, a little more pungent

784
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: really gets out there. The powders are super super potent

785
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: as you know, um, it's very hard to explain over

786
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, a podcast, just how just how potent they are.

787
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: They that scent really travels um. And the best part

788
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: about the powders themselves, they're five hundred times to the sugar.

789
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: You know, you can it's not considered a bait, it's

790
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: considered an attracting and you can go ahead and sprinkle

791
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: that out on logs and stuff that and just even

792
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: on the on the ground, you know, anything that will

793
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: absorb a little bit of water something that makes that

794
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: that much stronger um. And they really really do. What

795
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: I like about the powders when I use them is

796
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: that it's not messy. No, it's not at all. The

797
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: other stuff is oil based. It's kind of you know,

798
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: when you're carrying around a bottle of gold Rush, it's

799
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: kind of like you're carrying around a bomb. Like if

800
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: it if it spills in your car, it's a good smell,

801
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: but you're kind gonna smell like for a long time.

802
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: But but the point being, some people like I can

803
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: throw this in a in a backpack and like, because

804
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: I have been doing some remote bait sites where I'm

805
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: carrying stuff and uh, but anyway that it's kind of

806
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: nice to have a dry powder and it is super strong.

807
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: You open it up and it it's super strong. It is. Yeah, well,

808
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: um man, that's good. You know. My main objective was

809
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: just to kind of familiarize people with your products, talk

810
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: a little bit about how we're using them, and uh,

811
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, not everybody's gonna bait bears. But there's there's

812
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: a lot of states that cambait bears. All the Canadian

813
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: provinces except British Columbia and well and none of it

814
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: and some of the other the real northern provinces, right,

815
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: but they can bait bears on private land and New

816
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Jersey and North Carolina thing bait bears, Arkansas, Oklahoma, a

817
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: lot of the Western states, the Great Lake States, Minnesota, Wisconsin,

818
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 1: Michigan combate bears. I mean, I don't know. I think

819
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: there's like seventeen states or something's somewhere in there, you know,

820
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: And there's a few, uh, there's a few that you know,

821
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: like North Carolina just added there's you know, and so

822
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: there's a few more popping up. And I guess I'm

823
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: not sure a hundred percent on the regulations in Florida,

824
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: they well, there's no hunt in Florida. I don't think

825
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: took it away. And I don't know if there's any

826
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: foreseeable future in bringing that back or not, you know,

827
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: but I sure hope so, yeah, I hope it comes

828
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: back to and Cobe. Every time I'm talking about bear hunting,

829
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: I always want to tie it back into conservation, which

830
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: I feel like it's got to be on the lips

831
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: of every bear hunter in twenty nineteen. Is that you know,

832
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about using sense to attract bears. The the

833
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: end goal of this is that we could be selective

834
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: in our harvest. That's the way I look at it.

835
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not and that's the way we should

836
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: look at it, is that conservation based hunting means that

837
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: we are very selective in which animal we take. That's

838
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: why I use scent products commercial sense on my baits.

839
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: Is I'm trying to get that older, mature mail where

840
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: I can take him out of the population. And to me,

841
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: it's a you know, I mean, to somebody that didn't

842
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: understand baiting, they're like, oh man, these guys are you know,

843
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: using these high powered sense to drawing bear. There's a

844
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: conservation side to it. Too. I mean, if all you

845
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: can draw into your bear, if you can, if you

846
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: can draw in five animals rather than three, there's a

847
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: better chance. And that five animals that you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: one to take out of the population. That's also the

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Speaker 1: right one that we're after his hunters too. We want

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Speaker 1: not hiding that fact. But that's also the bear that

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Speaker 1: we need to take out. From a conservation perspective, He's

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Speaker 1: already contributed to the gene pool. He's done his job.

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Speaker 1: He's a perfect one to take out. So you know,

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Speaker 1: this is uh uh, this is this is a tool

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Speaker 1: a tool for that. But man, hey, thanks for thanks

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Speaker 1: for being on the podcast. Man no, it's my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: It's my pleasure. It was great to listen to you.

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Speaker 1: And Bernie converts back and forth, and yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: great guy to be around. Yeah, he he. He really

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Speaker 1: thinks analytically about about bear baiting. I mean, probably more

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Speaker 1: you know, we all tend to yeah, nerd out Uh

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Speaker 1: well cool, Well, I hope you guys have a great

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Speaker 1: a t a show. And hey guys, thanks for checking

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Speaker 1: out the Baroning Magazine podcast. Check out Bear Hunting Magazine.

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Speaker 1: We're the only print bear hunting magazine in the world.

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Speaker 1: Big fish in a really small pond, but that's what

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Speaker 1: makes us awesome. And uh check out our YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: You'll see a lot of I've got quite a few

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Speaker 1: YouTube videos, especially the vlogs that we were doing back

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Speaker 1: in the summer that highlighted the Northwood stuff. We do

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Speaker 1: some Northwoods giveaways every year and uh so check out

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Speaker 1: our YouTube channel. And uh any closing thoughts Colby, No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: just uh, I appreciate the opportunity sitting on them and

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Speaker 1: talk about it. Yeah. Man, Well keep the wild places

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Speaker 1: wild because that's where the bears live. Es