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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Lost the locker room and

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Speaker 1: can't find you. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? Hey Dan, We're back in here. Mark.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually disappointed that you're not wearing your oversized sports jacket.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping it would become your thing, like you

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Speaker 1: would start dressing like paul A pound Stone or something. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's where I'm trying to West for outdated references. No

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Speaker 1: one knows Paula Poundstone in two thousand fifteen. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: feel like my Twitter feed will say otherwise. Mr Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: references are great, by the way, So they're great. West.

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Speaker 1: So this is We're back in the studio one day later,

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Speaker 1: because that is what we have to do. Uh, Free

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Speaker 1: agency week. Even though things are starting to slow down

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Speaker 1: a little bit, it's calming down. There's still plenty of

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Speaker 1: things to talk about, obviously, but we're not uh in

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Speaker 1: the frenzy. Where are with Greg? We added the frenzy

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Speaker 1: at this point. Now we're in the slow trot right now.

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Speaker 1: But today it's busy. Still, more news will happen over

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Speaker 1: the next four days than really happens for all of May, June,

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Speaker 1: and July. So we've got a lot of people out there.

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Speaker 1: Unless you're Dan, you're Whenever Dan is in on a weekend,

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Speaker 1: there's always a wild string of arrests. Usually a felonious

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Speaker 1: incident goes down that leads to trouble. I am looking

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Speaker 1: forward to Sunday basically, west a lot of incidents when

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Speaker 1: you're when you're on. Because Mark and I are off,

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Speaker 1: I know it's almost suspicious now that I think of it.

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Speaker 1: Um So, yeah, So we have a lot to get

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Speaker 1: to today on AH, I think this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a really good show. Gonna be a great show. Actually, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about uh the moves that we've loved

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Speaker 1: so far. We're gonna go around the table at least once.

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Speaker 1: Give us a move you love, then we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a move you hated, and we'll talk about why we

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Speaker 1: feel that way. We'll also we're also going to uh

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Speaker 1: check in on our go get my lunch a dirt bag.

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Speaker 1: I don't like that one. Go get my lunch Slee's bucket, brown,

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Speaker 1: Go get my lunch clown. It's got a nice ring

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, we're gonna check in on those are problem

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Speaker 1: Go get my lunch mark. Oh anything that I think

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Speaker 1: it's again Greg creating environment. Yes, going to create a

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Speaker 1: letter to HR. So I was really excited. You struggled

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Speaker 1: sixties seventy percent already decided and something that will be

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Speaker 1: interesting to check in on now that a free agency

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Speaker 1: is three days old. But before we do any of that,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna check behind the glass and uh, this is

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Speaker 1: a new thing. Now late in the week, our final podcast,

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Speaker 1: our old friend, our current friend, and our future friend,

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Speaker 1: the gold Standard? What's up about it? Not too much?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? How are you doing? Just great? I

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Speaker 1: have to say, I gotta just put it out there

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Speaker 1: so everybody knows. I walk into the studio and immediately

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Speaker 1: there's gold Standard on on the board. He's he has

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Speaker 1: some new drops that he took care of. He's doing

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Speaker 1: some organization on the hard drive. And you wonder if

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Speaker 1: TV who maybe getting a little too comfortable now under

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Speaker 1: his glorious stewardship. He's done a fantastic job. And I'm

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Speaker 1: just here, you know, for general maintenance, doing my thing,

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Speaker 1: keeping the ship afloat. But he's doing I don't you know.

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Speaker 1: We all know gold Standard away from the podcast to

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Speaker 1: one of the nicest people at NFL Media, and you

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Speaker 1: know that's that is who he is. But in this

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Speaker 1: particular case, there is it was a he was really

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Speaker 1: trying to outshine t D. Verbally. I think it's like

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Speaker 1: It's like Tom Brady when he stepped in for Drew Bledsoe,

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Speaker 1: saying all the right things, but just trying to take over.

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Speaker 1: Gold Standard, beautiful the great teddbas the million dollar Man,

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Speaker 1: him is because he's the most complete guy and that's

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Speaker 1: why he's getting all the money. But it does make

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Speaker 1: a game better uh, the New England Patriots. Speaking of which,

426
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Speaker 1: and the Jets former wide receiver Percy Harvin. Uh A

427
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Speaker 1: former Jets wide reesciter Percy Harvin now a free agent

428
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: after being cut the Patriots, according to Chris Wesling, wrote

429
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: a great piece breaking down where he thinks Percy Harvin

430
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: winds up a list, the great list of five teams,

431
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: and gets into it on each of them he puts

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00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 1: puts at the top of the Pats. Which which you

433
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: think west that Harvin makes sense? On the Patriots, well,

434
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has always been a huge fan of Percy Harvin,

435
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: to the point where Brad Children's used to go around

436
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: gloating that he drafted Percy Harvin one spot before Belichick

437
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 1: because the Patriots really wanted Harvin um and so I

438
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: think that makes the most sense. Ian Rappaport has said

439
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: that Patriots have a very good chance to get him.

440
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: Of course, he visited Buffalo first, so we'll see what

441
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: happens from there. Where is Brad He is at a

442
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: right aid instant photo booth working is the second oh

443
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: Man night shift? Wasn't he like a still telling that

444
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: special Projects coordinator as he's done with his special project.

445
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: Yet I was like Lincoln Logs, didn't he become like

446
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: spread game coordinator or like Wildcat he became saying that

447
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with what he's special projects coordinate?

448
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: What was chud when he first got hired after Browns?

449
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: Didn't he have a ridiculous title too? Yeah? Something a

450
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: mint of male. Excuse me, we've been working a lot

451
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: this week. This is outrageous. I like that. Percy Harvard,

452
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: by the way, kind of leaks to um ESPN is

453
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: just seeing Anderson that he's grown tired of being a

454
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: gadget guy. He wants to be used more as a

455
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: traditional wide receiver, and he wants to play with a

456
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: more experienced quarterback. And like, this is a guy with

457
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 1: not a lot of self awareness in terms of like

458
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: his market value, you know what I mean? Right now,

459
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: after everything that's gone on the last few years, I

460
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: don't know what Look what happened the one time he

461
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: played with the Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Farve, he

462
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: was the best slut receiver in the NFL. Somebody in

463
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is not like the worst player. Russell Wilson

464
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: not known for being one of the best passers in

465
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: the NFL. Were you going for administrative assistant? Yes, I

466
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: was admin assistant three like I just high pad, I

467
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: just got this one. His his title was special assistant

468
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: to head coach. That doesn't sound that there's a lot

469
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: of those not too bad. But how do you think

470
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: that makes all the other assistants feels not so special?

471
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Or Williams? I don't think they were envious in the mix.

472
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: By the way, Brandon Gibson is not going to cut it.

473
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: By the way, your boy Danny Amundol is coming back,

474
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: so that would seem to indicate West floating across the

475
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: news room. He boy the stable. This just started because

476
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: Gregg's been trying to cut him for a year and

477
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: a half. Well, he took a pay cut to stay,

478
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: so he smartly realized. All I've pointed out is that

479
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: he his value would be the same as Edelman's if

480
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: if he did not get hurt in the first game

481
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: he played with the Patriots, he uh was largely responsible

482
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: for at Ravens when I don't know have large responsible.

483
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: He was a big part of it, So give him credit.

484
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: Moving on such sick with the Pats Brandon Browner, now

485
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: former Patriot, they let him walk. He is now a

486
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: member of the Saints. The Saints reach a deal with

487
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Browner, uh three years and roughly eighteen million dollars.

488
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't know this one. This one's a bit of

489
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: a head scratcher to me. The Patriots could have brought

490
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: him back for less than two million dollars correct. I

491
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: think it was five for the Patriots, but they but

492
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: the Saints are paying him more than that, and they

493
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: gave him ten million guaranteed I read, which I am surprised.

494
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: But the cornerback market has been crazy. Really outlines how

495
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: much team's value cornerbacks plus the big cornerbacks. That's what

496
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: everybody wants now, and this he's is He's probably the

497
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: biggest cornerback in football. Right, Let's talk about big cornerbacks.

498
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: One of Mark's favorite phrases offseason hype bunnies. Saints drafted

499
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: guy in the second round. I've ever heard that before.

500
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: Hype bunnies season. Hype Bunnies. That's a Jim Reinicken are

501
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: one of our editors downstair. As we've talked about, HiPE

502
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: Bunnies typically draft able guys, though The Saints drafted guy

503
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: named Stanley John Baptiste last year, supposed to be the

504
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: Brandon Browner of the st six three to twenty second

505
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: round they drafted. He plays like eight snaps all years.

506
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: They just throwing the towel on him, and then all right,

507
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: we we wanted Brandon Browner, We'll just go get him.

508
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: Let's get the Brandon Browner, Brandon Browners instead of some

509
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: guy with a Haitian name again the Saints. I feel

510
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: like you're floating into the Abysses rap. She tweeted out.

511
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: If the Saints do sign Brandon Browner, and it could be,

512
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: it could very well happen. It happened Sean Payton gets

513
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: his locker room enforcer. Browner will take ownership. But I

514
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: don't even said yes because two championship teams have wanted

515
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: him gone in the last two years. Right Page is

516
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna wait to get rid of him. Clearly can't wait

517
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: till Brandon Browner puts a choke code on the first

518
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: guy to step out of line in that locker Rood

519
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: Saint toasting C J. Spiller too, That would be fun.

520
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: They we would take a sandwich proposition. The Brandon Browner

521
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: is back in the free agent market next season. No, no,

522
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Speaker 1: I bet I do on that. He leads the league

523
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: in don'lties. How's your vapors? Mark? It is hot in here.

524
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening Mark fanning himself. We should

525
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: get on one of those. Uh, the Asian fans like

526
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: the elegant ones. I just enjoyed the fresh I got

527
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: the vapors. I don't watching outrage this week. I got

528
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: some of those fans. I can bring some in. Oh,

529
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: that's right, Greg connected to Asian culture? Who his wife?

530
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: I like that, just all of Asia the same culture

531
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: to Dan Well, Japanese culture. For hr level comments coming

532
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: through this mic here, I don't understand what was wrong

533
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: with what I just said. Wait a gold standard. You're

534
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: a cultured man, you travel the world to watch soccer. Uh,

535
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: you know what was wrong with what I said? I know,

536
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: I think you did find it just kind of like

537
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: someone that like if they were you can't say Oriental,

538
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: you can say Asian. If they were having like let's say,

539
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: a swimming podcast in Japan and they just you know,

540
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: referred to North American culture, it would make about the

541
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: same amount of sense, wouldn't I wouldn't take I'd be like, oh,

542
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: that guy's probab by the way they're swimming podcast, It's

543
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: a broad net geographically that we are entirely reasonable people.

544
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: We don't take offense to stuff that's fair. I think

545
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: brought it up. I think you'd do better with like

546
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: a southern Spanish fan, like, alright, some money, it's get

547
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: some equipment. We got to talk to a shadowy league

548
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: figure about getting you a fainting couch. Why why why

549
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: do you get so affected by the heat. Did some

550
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: people I guess are just born that way, just top blooded?

551
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Greg, why didn't you keep making comments

552
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: about my person? Like just file and said right on

553
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 1: down the human resources moving forward, Let's move forward. Because

554
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: things got a little testy, the Saints have traded Ben Grubs,

555
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: their guard to the Chiefs in exchange for a two

556
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen it's harping to read with Mark Alrightning put

557
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: it down. We're fine. I'm sorry, it's just a little

558
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: bit distracting my trade grubs the Kansas City for a

559
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen fifth round pick. Grubs as on the

560
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: books are six point five million and salary nine point

561
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: six million. In the cap West. I hate when when

562
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: your scientists stuff gets blown up. Because you sounded really

563
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: smart yesterday and he said they wanted to build stronger

564
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: up the middle. But I guess there's still trying to

565
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: trim money. At the end of the day. This trade

566
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: is as boring as the Chiefs are as a team.

567
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: It's just another reminder of what we're saying about the

568
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: Saints though. It's that they don't seem to have a

569
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: coherent plan. They signed up the huge money three years ago,

570
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: and now they were talking about cutting him all offseason,

571
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: and now we hear several reports today that basically every

572
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: player in the Saints roster outside of Ingram Breeze and

573
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is being shopped around the league. So this

574
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: isn't entirely it looks like they're blowing it up. There

575
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: are whispers by the way, some Drew Brees whisper. Are

576
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: they all coming from Mark's death? Rom I've I've heard heard.

577
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: Just keep your falling in your haughty nature, Just keep

578
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: staying above the fray. Greg, You know what you're going

579
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: down will not be on the right. It's your bid

580
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: at this point. Every year a Hall of Fame quarterback

581
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: must be traded or die or something. Next year, it's

582
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: gonna be Aaron Rodgers moves to join like a volleyball

583
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: I really think. Also, there's a lot of evidence with

584
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: the Saints in general, forget Breeze, they are just letting

585
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: pieces go. It's a fire sale. I don't know what

586
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: they're doing is reportedly on the mark. Let me let

587
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: me just throw, let me just throw something out there.

588
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm always welcome no matter the context. Uh. If Drew

589
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Brees were to become of album, I'm just curious. I'm

590
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: gonna ask the scientists. Uh, Mark, you can jump in

591
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: as well. Thank you. Um, what a pleasure. What would

592
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: it cost a team to get Drew Brees thirty six

593
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: years old, maybe on the decline, but still a Hall

594
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: of Fame passer with You would imagine a couple of

595
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: years of the tank if the Saints decided we are

596
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: shopping him aggressively or we are willing to we're not

597
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: desperate to get rid of them. At the same time,

598
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: they've made an internal decision they would like to trade.

599
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: Here's where you start is a franchise quarterback. Because there's

600
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: no way they would trade him without getting a top

601
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: ten to twelve quarterback or a rookie quarterback, so Geno

602
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Smith and a third So you know, if if there

603
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: was some team that was willing to give up their

604
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: younger quarterback that they liked, or Marcus Mariota or something

605
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: like that, that's the only that that would be the

606
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: starting I don't think they would trade him unless they

607
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: had another quarterback in the building. Like rap Sheet reported

608
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: last year surprisingly during the season that the Saints would

609
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback this year, right, So maybe I don't

610
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: know if they If they draft a second or third

611
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: rounder this year and that guy looks promising in a

612
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: year or two, how about Tampa Bay number one overall

613
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: with an extra number one pick and one of the

614
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: best players you can pick on the roster. Either the

615
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Bucks aren't ready to go yeah, but love he's Smith

616
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: would much rather, I think, work with a total known

617
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: quality quality under center than to start over with some

618
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: young I don't think Sean Payton is thinking long term.

619
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: I feel like he's year to year right right now.

620
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: It's a weird situation ownership. I just can't see them

621
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: rebuilding if they got back a great quarterback like Mario.

622
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: If they thought Mariota was great. That's a little different.

623
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: How about Drew Brees? And I'm being serious though, Drew

624
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: Brees and a five for Andy Dalton. Two number one's

625
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: in a conditional two that could become a one? Are

626
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: you saying who says? If I'm the Saint, I say no,

627
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: You're getting a quarterback that's an established guy that can

628
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: be not good enough. I think. I think franchise quarterbacks

629
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: are untradeable. And if I don't have a franchise quarterback,

630
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give up three first round picks to

631
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: have a franchise quarter What about a thirty six year

632
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: old franchise quarterback when the coach and GM may not

633
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: even be there year two? If you were it, Dan

634
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: asked this in the news room. If you're the Jets

635
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: and you feel like the rest of your roster can

636
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: can Pete? I would have no problem that. You know,

637
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: he's not thirty nine, he's thirty six. And we've seen

638
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: what Brady and Manning have done from thirty six to

639
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: thirty eight, and you well, you also can't underestimate that

640
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is the Jim Brown of Cleveland. I mean,

641
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: he brought them a Super Bowl. He is the greatest

642
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: athlete that city has ever had by far, So to

643
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: give him up, to trade him away would be the

644
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: biggest Like Stones, people would hate it, people would stop

645
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: doing season take it. So you better have people coming back.

646
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: But why not trade him when he has value? What

647
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: if it's a year from now, we're like, you know what,

648
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: Breeze fell off a cliff last year and here's no

649
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: trade value. I just said West is the GM. He's

650
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: trade him because you already think their windows closed. First,

651
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm not trading them. I don't trade franchise quarter You

652
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: just said they're super Bowl window closed. You could It's

653
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: the NFL. It could be opened up. If you have

654
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, the window can open up again. Okay, Okay,

655
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: I got you to Franchise quarterbacks are are off the table.

656
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Cannot trade them. Well, but Belichick has done that a

657
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: couple of times. They had something in place. But I

658
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: mean I think that, you know, thinking out the outside,

659
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: then what he traded bled so once he realized Brady

660
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: was better, I and I. The difference here is they

661
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: don't have that. But if you could go get the

662
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: number one pick and you get you get someone like

663
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: a Jamis Winston. I just think he's not twenty eight

664
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: years old. He's thirty six and still playing at a

665
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: high level. And by the way, Mark, I do view

666
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: you as a football head. But within the constraints of

667
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: the show, we refer to West and Greg. I just

668
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: want to I can talk about it. It would not

669
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: offend me if Mark was referred to as a scientist.

670
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: I understand. I don't want to be a scientist, I understand,

671
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be a pirate. Moving on,

672
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens have agreed to a deal to keep

673
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Justin for set in the building. Birtbury reports the deal

674
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: is worth about nine million over three years. This is

675
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: a nice little story for said this journeyman twenty nine

676
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: years old, all of a sudden shows up out of

677
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: nowhere and steps into the void left by Ray Rice

678
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: almost thirteen hundred yards on two seven carries and eight

679
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns last year. So they bring him back, everybody wins, right, Well,

680
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: they don't bring him back to Gary Kubiak's zone blocking scheme,

681
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: which was responsible keep out of without Gary Kubia right.

682
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great world when guys like you know,

683
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: Justin Forcett get rewarded. Trent Richardson, on the other hand,

684
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: not so much. I do have to add this. I

685
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: know it doesn't have anything to do with or set,

686
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: but this is a quote from Trent Richardson today. Uh,

687
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: me and the GM didn't see eye to eye. My

688
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: next step, I'll be the starter. Indianapolis didn't fit me.

689
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: He is, he is the king that's gonna hurt his chances.

690
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: He's like he needs to not talk. Not even just

691
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: lacking self awareness, that's straight delusion. He's been saying. He's

692
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: been dropping delusional nuggets, by the way for a good

693
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: six months now, and he was proven wrong on every

694
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: single which is sad because when he started as a

695
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: rookie he was the opposite. And when he when he

696
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: was traded, the one thing not to get that's what

697
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: his head obviously. Well I don't about that, but I

698
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: think that he he wasn't this guy who's been you know,

699
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: defamed on Twitter on social media for three years now. Yeah,

700
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, there makes me think there's more going on

701
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: behind the scenes if he's changed his personality when he

702
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: got traded a couple of veterans, you know that there

703
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: was reports that said, listen, we won't miss him in Cleveland. Right, Hey, Wes,

704
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about some intrall role your boy?

705
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: He's headed to Chicago. Is enough talking for everyone. After

706
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: a five year run with the New York Giants, he

707
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: signs a three year contract worth eleven point to five million,

708
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: with five million and guaranteed money to the Bears. He

709
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: was a nice player in that Giant secondary, made some play,

710
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: was a playmaker. It was an important guy for a

711
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: while there. It was time for him to move on

712
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 1: now as that the Bears. Another Bears move. I don't

713
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: get it's excited about this one. I thought that was

714
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: that excited about intral role either. But Eddie Royal also

715
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: going to the Bears. Reaches an agreement. Uh, you know,

716
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: it's been a long time since that break at rookie

717
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: Year in two thousand and eight. But Eddie Royal in

718
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: Chicago now catching some passes. Somebody's got to do it.

719
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall's not there anymore. With San Jeffrey felt that

720
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: big hole you were talking about the slot in Chicago.

721
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: They knew it was a big plugged in scientists greatest

722
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: of all football heads. So the Bears now have Eddie

723
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: Royal and natural role thoughts. It's a lot better idea

724
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: than reuniting Chris Conte and Major right in Tampa Bay.

725
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: That's true. CONTI leaves Chicago, they got rolled in golds

726
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: and leaves Tampa that the Chicago probably got the best

727
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: end of that little exchange. Yeah. I think that the

728
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: Bears have been trying to find safeties ever since Mike

729
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: Brown was a study. This contract by Eddie Royal it

730
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: could go in my stinker contract conversation, but since we're

731
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: doing it now, I'll just say it. I mean, that's

732
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: a crazy contract that Eddie Royal is getting more than

733
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year and ten million dollars guaranteed

734
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: two fifteen. I actually almost assuming that the reports of

735
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: the money are wrong because it seems outrageous. I don't

736
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: pretty get them. Oh yeah, that should be my thing. Yeah,

737
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: isn't that the craziest contract? That the two craziest contracts

738
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: I've seen a Kerry Williams getting seven million for this

739
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: year and then Eddie Royal getting ten million guaranteed. Alright,

740
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: just so we're all clear, the rules of the Speed

741
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: Round are to be it's quick and concisest, even if

742
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: you're you know, a football head scientist that feels like

743
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: he has a message during the actual speed round. Gotta

744
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: be quick and then maybe elaborate after the speed round.

745
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: I got a couple of messages on Twitter from people

746
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: saying that, uh, Dan Hansas should never cut me off?

747
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Really your brothers or something. A couple of girls. All right,

748
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: well let's we're gonna we're gonna investigate that area. Girls

749
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: call out Dan hanss for cutting off Chris Wesley. Listen,

750
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: one day when West has his own show, you can

751
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: go on. That will never happen. But right now we're

752
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: all the group and in the speed round, we just

753
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: gotta be fast. I don't want my own show. All right,

754
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: Here we go, let's do this. Here we go. All right,

755
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: we'll start in Atlanta Falcon's Land. Former Bucks pass rusher

756
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: Adrian Claiborne, also pass rusher O'Brien Scofield, West your thoughts

757
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: well Scofield comes over from Seattle. Quinn brings him back

758
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: with him, and then Claiborne has been a first round bus.

759
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: That doesn't excite me at all. Tampa Bay Buccaneers more

760
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: work they're doing on their defensive end. Henry Melton joins

761
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: them a deal that will be worth up to five

762
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: million marks. Excuse me, Greg's boy favorite player. I do

763
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: feel like the Cowboys. I mean the Bucks signing Cowboys

764
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: leftovers is not the best strategy. Rex Ryan has announced

765
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: the Bills have signed quarterback Tyrod Taylor or Mark Saslo

766
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: get excited. I mean, if you're looking for a way

767
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: as a new coach, enfranchise to sell tickets. Bingo. The

768
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: Raiders have signed former Eagles safety Nate Allen. Will that

769
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: make a difference, West, Come on, Raiders stopping This guy

770
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: was burnt all the time, and so they signed him

771
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: this year so they can cut him. They got a

772
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: back off the Raiders. Raheem the Dream More agrees to

773
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: a three or twelve million dollar deal with the Texans.

774
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: That's a nice recovery like that, nice little bargain. I

775
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: don't know where Raheem the Dream came from. I don't

776
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: know anything anything else. Oh. C J. Spiller is visiting

777
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints, Mark Selin. I don't know why

778
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: any player would go to the Saints right now, but

779
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the Jets to swoop in and get

780
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: c J. Spillers. They don't seem interesting, seem to have

781
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: no interest West Stevie Johnson has been released by the

782
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: Four Diners. Anything left. I don't know why I took

783
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: him a week to do it. The guy was making

784
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: six million dollars and they would only play him ten

785
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: snaps a game. I have a note here that reading

786
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: two cards, Greg, Wow, Corey ready one of my favorite

787
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: veteran defense alignment and cut it. That was speedy. That

788
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: was great. Tell all your your minion of women, your

789
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: manson uh female following. I'm not It's not personal. It's

790
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: just the speed. Round comes with an element of speed,

791
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: that's all. I think. Some people like it. When I

792
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: have messages for State nerds, we do love it. I

793
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: feel like I'm still not getting through on this. I'm

794
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: trying to though. We went fast that time. That was great. No,

795
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: I just made my overall point on that. I love

796
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: hearing the scientist pontificate. I love it. Let's cannappy, shackled

797
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: by normal rules. Occasionally I get riled up, not all

798
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: the time. All right, two more things before we go.

799
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: Let's start with moves that we loved and moves that

800
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: we hated, and so we'll do one each. If you

801
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: have more. If you feel inclined, you what you need

802
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: to get a second one out there. That's fine. It's

803
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: our podcast. We can do whatever we want. So first up,

804
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: let's go around the room, Greg, Greg, Well, that's the thing, right,

805
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: it's about picking the one beyond all the other. Here's

806
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: one way around that. I'm gonna smash a lot of

807
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: the Colts ones together. I just like what they've done.

808
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson and Trent Cole especially. I just like these veterans,

809
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: not over the hill, good enough, mid range money Like

810
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: I love that damn quick. But do you love it? Yeah?

811
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: I love it Andre Johnson. I love that was one

812
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: of mine too, and and I just wanted to add

813
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: Andrew Johnson reminds me a little bit of Steve Smith

814
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: last year. He's gonna have a chip on the show,

815
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: right and I think even better. And I think he's

816
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: a better player. I think he's a better player right now.

817
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: I love that move. I love Andre john you know,

818
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: I do think there is the chip on the shoulder factor.

819
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: By the way, I also had Andre Johnson, and so

820
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: even though he showed signs of decline, Yeah, he's a

821
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: pumped up guy. He's ready to do some destruction and

822
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: he's playing with maybe the two m v P. So

823
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: I love that move, Mark. I like Seattle getting Jimmy Graham,

824
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds like an overt positive for

825
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, but it's it's it's a move that puts

826
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: them over the top of the NFC again. And it

827
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: started with New Orleans that just wants to get rid

828
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: of everything and get Max Unger. They wind up giving

829
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: away Jimmy. A nice job by John Schneider. You know

830
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: what it used to be Seattle in San Francisco that's

831
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: gone by the wayside. The rest of the NFC camp

832
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: keep up with this team. Seattle's going back to the

833
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. UFA UFA hot take. I also love the

834
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: Darrell Rivas move, but I don't feel like I needed

835
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: to be stated. Do you have anything else? By the

836
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: one you have you love? I heard that eight and

837
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: eight Browns going four and twelve, so and they would

838
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: be a huge improvement for the Jets. All right, do

839
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: you have another one that you love? You don't love anymore?

840
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: I love Jaba shared to the Patriots. I love Randall

841
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: Cobb in this wide receiver, in this ride wide receiver

842
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: market that was great. You should have made more. I

843
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: love the common sense of it. It never made sense

844
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: for him to leave Green Bay and never made sense

845
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: for the Packers to move on without him. I think

846
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: he got banged by this theory that grew and grew

847
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: and grew that that he could not possibly be paid

848
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: more than Jordy Nelson or else the world would spend

849
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: off its access. Should have got more money than ten

850
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: million whatever. But still great job by the Packers. Moves

851
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: we hated, moves we hated. And you know, we don't

852
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: always like to skew negative. That's not lie. It was

853
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: not that's a lie. We do love it. Greg I

854
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: already mentioned Eddie Royal, So we'll stick at the wide

855
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: receiver position. Jeremy Macklin's had one one thousand yards season

856
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: his entire career. He has now paid like a top

857
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: four wide receiver in the NFL. That didn't make any

858
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: sense to me, Okay, I am uh and West you

859
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: put it well yesterday about it's too soon to really

860
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: say whether Chip Kelly is doing anything wrong or right.

861
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: But I just I'm not a big fan of what

862
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: he's been doing right up to the running back situation.

863
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Signed both those guys. I feel like he's making some

864
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: young GM mistakes right now that come back to get him.

865
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: So I didn't like the Spiller addition, and with DeMarco Murrays,

866
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: oh move. I hated Bears picking up Cutler's option and

867
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: not cutting him. I would have cut him. I would

868
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: have eaten the fifteen point five million, and I would

869
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: have moved on and give him my fans some hope.

870
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: A team not giving their fan much hope is is

871
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: the Browns. A team like Seattle goes out and gets

872
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: what it wants. The Jets. I give them credit for

873
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: chasing down and Philly needs. You can't do it all

874
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: in free agency, but you have three ways to do

875
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: it trades, free agency, in the draft, and the Browns

876
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: have stayed utterly silent on two of those three options.

877
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's over, but from where they

878
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: are at this point, they got a lot of hose

879
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: to fill. Four and twelve sounds about right because they've

880
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: got no quarterback. I was gonna say my other move

881
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: that I hated. I hated the Josh McCown signing six

882
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: point to five million guaranteed for a journeyman that's coming

883
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: off a real crappy year. I just didn't get that

884
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: they're just making the same mistakes over and over again.

885
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: Well this kind of sound like I'm biased. But my

886
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: last one I hated is the trio of Jets moves

887
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: that felt like two emotions. Fifty million guaranteed for a

888
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: thirty one year old inside linebacker because he didn't want

889
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan to get him, and then Chromarty and Screen

890
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: just seemed a little a little crazy. Alright, anything else

891
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: West writers spinning their wheels doing the same thing to

892
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: do every year the whole pastle of their guys they said,

893
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: and you're gonna cut them next year like you always do.

894
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: It makes no sense overpay for mediocrity. Go the first

895
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: tens of the ten games of the year with winning

896
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: a game, and then cut all the guys you signed

897
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: the year before. Way to go, McKenzie. You deserve an extension.

898
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: I got one more for Greg. How about the Patriots

899
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: when you got Tom Brady for maybe two more seasons.

900
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: You're the one that said, how about go out there

901
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: and go for it and they let the cornerback go. No,

902
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: that's a it's a huge loss. But I'm give me

903
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: a break with the Patriots. Fancy and I can't believe

904
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: we're not spending free agency. They signed the third highest

905
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: paid player in free agency, Devin mccordy. He's like one

906
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: of the richest Patriots of all time. You know, the

907
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: reva's good job by the Jets. They spend more money. Um. Also,

908
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: that wasn't one of my bad times. I hated Drew

909
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: Brees dressing up his child and Jimmy Graham jersey and

910
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: having sulking on on Twitter. Off of that, it was

911
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: something about it basically running that franchise with Sean Payne.

912
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: You could have made it happen if you really wanted

913
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: your child not to be on the carpet. Dad talk

914
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: scorching back. All right, finally it's fun. There's more. Finally, last,

915
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: but not least marking that way to get out of No,

916
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: that's not true. I just I'm looking at my sheet

917
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: of paper and it's a playing at this point. Um.

918
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: Surprised me by the way all the Raiders hate other

919
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: people think we hate the Raiders. I do. In this case,

920
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: I kind of like what they've done. I think it's okay.

921
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I give them much more benefited doubt this year than

922
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: what they did last year. Overall, I don't think it's

923
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: too bad. I kind of like we're moving on. It's fine.

924
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: I just want to tell the Raiders positions involved in this.

925
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: There's no way they're winning more than six. We should

926
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: set West up with one of these manson women that

927
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: are following him. I'm not sure classify them as that.

928
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: They're just simply females on Twitter. That totally different. Mr

929
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: Westling No, and I've gotta lock my doors tonight. It's

930
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: not like that at all, But you don't want to

931
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: Dan Terry Melcher, Kansas. All right, So the last thing

932
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna check in on our go get

933
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: my lunch turd propositions because we got some coverage. So

934
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go down the list here as as

935
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: we know. Actually I didn't bring it up, but the

936
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: rievas to the Jets actually nailed me on five sandwiches.

937
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: I got five sandwiches off that excuse me, four sandwiches,

938
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: including including Z drizzle. You know, feeling this is gonna

939
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: be like a five minute hands anyone. No, No, not

940
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: at all. That is how you win the game, though

941
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be up big time because of that one.

942
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: I love anybody behind the glass the and sorry Gold

943
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Center and anybody behind the glass is gonna get killed

944
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: in this game. Um, let's see the minnows stepping into

945
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: a shark tank. Let's see im one of my I'm

946
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: just going down the list, I said to Marco, Murray's

947
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna sign with the Colts West End Mark sandwiches for

948
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: you from me. Congratulations there, thank you? Uh? Mark or

949
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: z Drizzle had raided Raiders signed Randall cop and Julius Thomas.

950
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: So z Drizzle just losing necessarily this tweet from the

951
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: go get my launch account. Does e Drizzle Colan jumps

952
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: into the Around the NFL podcast loses five sandwiches leaves. Uh,

953
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: c J. I had c J. Spiller signs with the

954
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: Eagles West Gregor Mark All took me up on that.

955
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: So I'm in trouble there. Uh, West Falcons either signed

956
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: a rackpo or Morgan. You might not get that, Greg,

957
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: and I don't think you're getting that. He didn't he

958
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: keep They've signed about four different defenders and three pass

959
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: freshers or so. Uh they're terrible. I said Maxwell would

960
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: get more guaranteed money than Cobb West. You took me

961
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: up on that. So I got you there. West. You

962
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: said you said Jason Worlds would sign with the Eagles.

963
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: How would you know? Greg, You're the only one that

964
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: took him up on it though, So that worked out. West.

965
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: You said that either Pernell McFee or Frank Gore would

966
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: sign with the Colts. So they go, Greg and Dan

967
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: oh sandwiches. I was getting killed for being conservative. I've

968
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: wisely stated if I had just taken Yeah, well, if

969
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: you had taken that other one, I had a feeling

970
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: he was West. West said the Brandon Marshall will end

971
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: up with cults. Dan Mark and Gregg all clean up there?

972
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: Where will Sue Land the Dolphins? Greg and West both

973
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: get sandwiches there. We threw out the first to sign

974
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: because it got so wanked out because of the pre signing,

975
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: the tamp, the legal tampering period, most guaranteed money outside

976
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: of Sue. Where are we at on that? We're going

977
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: to be mccordy, So none of us will because none

978
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: of us had. I had Maxwell, which was the highest

979
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: of our guesses. A little. But this is what you'll get.

980
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: You'll get me a whole sandwich. Because you said Reeves

981
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: and mccordy would sign with the Pats. I bang you

982
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: on that. And then the only ones we have four

983
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: more left in that are hanging out there. Uh, well, Mark,

984
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: you said C. J. Spiller will not sign with the Jets.

985
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: That look is good only I'm sorry West, You're getting

986
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: killed here. Uh. And then he could still sign with them.

987
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: You got to buy a sandwich. These are the four

988
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: that are hanging out there. Adrian Peterson does not play

989
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: for the Vikings. West has three sandwiches on the line there.

990
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: We're all taking that um gold standard, golden, golden Tate

991
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: will catch at least a hundred packs, is mark? Josh

992
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: McCown does not start week one? That I don't know.

993
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: We read beforehand that it could be anything. I didn't

994
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: think they were going to do that. I didn't think

995
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: you were gonna make the sue guaranteed money. One. Yeah,

996
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, this is Greg's j Cutler will not be

997
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: a member of the Bars after the draft. That's not

998
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: looking good only Dan And you know I said, did

999
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: a real onion hanger. Wes by the way, did not

1000
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: take that one. And finally the wait, why didn't you

1001
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: take that? I said, if I was on in the

1002
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: bear would be on my team. Yeah, that was at one,

1003
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: and finally I had the Sioux gets more guaranteed money

1004
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: than all the running backs on our top one on

1005
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: one list. It's looking pretty good. I have, um, it's

1006
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: looking pretty good for me. Yeah. For for Greg, I

1007
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: have the Charlie Day, always sunny in Philadelphia, Chicken scratch,

1008
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: Charlie writing that Greg writes, and we have a lot

1009
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: of the running backs involved. The big one, of course,

1010
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: was Murray Matthews got seven and a half, Gore got eight,

1011
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: and it looks like I'm gonna get the sixties. It's

1012
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna be close, but it looks like you're gonna get that.

1013
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: But you were the only one that took that. So

1014
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: that's it. That's where we're at with the sandwiches. I

1015
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: like it pretty good. You're in a You're in a

1016
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: good place this time. Mark. I think Mark and I

1017
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: will be close to even I might be a little down.

1018
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: West is gonna be given Dan a lot of sandwiches.

1019
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: Give me a break. I'm giving Dan just as many

1020
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: as I am. And gold Stander is gonna be all right.

1021
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: That's it for Thursday days edition of the Around the

1022
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. We will be back on Monday, back on Monday.

1023
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: Back on Monday with another show, so uh maybe uh,

1024
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: some the secondary market will be cleared up by then,

1025
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe we'll have some Adrian Peterson news. It's

1026
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: all happening people, so we would be back on Monday.

1027
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, of course for listening. This is Dana Hanss

1028
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the Boss and

1029
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: the Gold Standards behind the Glass. Bye,