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Speaker 1: John Morant is back on Tuesday night. This is after serving,
Speaker 1: of course, the twenty five game suspension, it will be
Speaker 1: job versus Zion, which would be blockbuster for you. On
Speaker 1: his way back and Brant spoke to the media for
Speaker 1: the first time on Friday. He said, kind of like
Speaker 1: what you were just saying, Boogie, that basketball has been
Speaker 1: It's always been there for him, it's been his therapy,
Speaker 1: that it's part of his life, and that taking that
Speaker 1: away was really hard for him. It made his time
Speaker 1: more difficult. He also said that he knows that the
Speaker 1: words he says about taking responsibility or just words, and
Speaker 1: that no one's going to believe him until he proves
Speaker 1: it with his actions. And this part I thought was
Speaker 1: really the most interesting. He said that he felt guilty
Speaker 1: for the position the Grizzlies were in, where of course
Speaker 1: they are out of the playoff chase right now. It's
Speaker 1: such a great start to the season last year and
Speaker 1: it's basically completely the opposite this year. And frankly, that's
Speaker 1: for more reasons than John Morant being out. But obviously
Speaker 1: he is the biggest cog in that wheel and he
Speaker 1: has not been there for them. So I'm just interested.
Speaker 1: I was watching him talk and I was kind of
Speaker 1: wondering what's actually going on inside his head. Do you
Speaker 1: have a sense can you take us inside the head
Speaker 1: of an NBA star who the whole world is criticizing
Speaker 1: their behavior and they he is in this position where
Speaker 1: he's got to prove it. What is that like?
Speaker 2: It's a tough situation and it's and it's super heavy
Speaker 2: on an individual. And the reason I could say that
Speaker 2: is nobody in his life is exempt from growing pains.
Speaker 2: And John Moran is just another person going through his
Speaker 2: growing pains.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The difference is his life is a fish is a fishboat,
Speaker 2: whereas everybody looking in at this one fish, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So through his growing pains, he gets
Speaker 2: criticized with every single step that he does wrong or right.
Speaker 2: And I mean, for the most part, any kid growing up,
Speaker 2: when their parents talks to him too much or fusses
Speaker 2: at him too much, become stressful. So imagine three million
Speaker 2: people on a everyday basis, you know, criticizing, you're talking
Speaker 2: down on you, all of those things. So you have
Speaker 2: to realize at the end of the day, this is
Speaker 2: a young kid, that's a human being. He bleeds and
Speaker 2: sleeps the same way everybody else does. So you know,
Speaker 2: I believe he deserves the grace that the next individual
Speaker 2: gets when it comes to growing pains or making mistakes.
Speaker 2: So he's a kid that's growing up, he's figuring life out.
Speaker 2: He made some mistakes, he's admitted to those mistakes. Now
Speaker 2: it's time to get him opportunity to better those mistakes.
Speaker 2: I think through this twenty five game suspension, he's been humbled,
Speaker 2: he's realized what's important to him. He's been able to
Speaker 2: prioritize the important things in his life, and it's also
Speaker 2: going to help him become a better man, a better father,
Speaker 2: and a better professional. So I think everything that's transpired
Speaker 2: is going to help in a positive way. I appreciate
Speaker 2: the comments and him being able to say, you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like the team is in this position because me,
Speaker 2: that's a sign of accountability, that's a sign of a leader,
Speaker 2: that's a sign of a guy that's realized I've messed
Speaker 2: up and I've let my guys down, and you know,
Speaker 2: because of that, they're in a bad position. So I
Speaker 2: think I think he comes out first game with a
Speaker 2: lot of fire. I think him returning to the team
Speaker 2: is the you know, the perfect spark for this team
Speaker 2: to help them go on a run, to put them
Speaker 2: back in position to you know, turn the season around.
Speaker 2: So they're only five games out, they have a great
Speaker 2: chance of making it playing And I mean, if I'm
Speaker 2: first second seed and I have to see this team
Speaker 2: first round, I'm scared. You know, this is a team
Speaker 2: that can beat any team on a nightly basis when
Speaker 2: they're healthy, and especially when a top ten player is
Speaker 2: now back, you know, with his team. So and he
Speaker 2: is a top ten player, Let's let's not deny that.
Speaker 2: Let's not let you know, steal in the state say otherwise.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. He's that dynamic, he's that electric,
Speaker 2: and we've seen it time and time again what happens
Speaker 2: when John Moran is on this Grizzly team. They're one
Speaker 2: of the most fun teams the whit and they're a
Speaker 2: very very tough team to be So, you know, I
Speaker 2: hope things work out in this kid's favor. I'm a
Speaker 2: huge fan of him. I'm a huge fan of his talent.
Speaker 2: And you know, I can see through the mistakes, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I know what it's like to
Speaker 2: you know, fuck up as a young kid. I could
Speaker 2: see through all that. I could see this is a
Speaker 2: good kid with a good heart. He just made some
Speaker 2: silly mistakes, and that's exactly what it should be, label
Speaker 2: a silly mistake. So let's move on, and I'm excited
Speaker 2: for his return. Get back on the floor and show
Speaker 2: the world to start at you ark.
Speaker 1: Yet, I do think people have kind of forgotten how
Speaker 1: good he is. I think we're going to see that
Speaker 1: over the next month. We talked last week. The odds
Speaker 1: in Vegas are not very high that they make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, just has to make the plan.
Speaker 1: And to your point, they're going to be a very
Speaker 1: different team than a typical nine or ten seed because
Speaker 1: of all the time jobs missed. By the time they
Speaker 1: get to the spring, they're going to be a higher
Speaker 1: caliber team in the nine or ten seeds clothing like
Speaker 1: a wolf in sheep's clothing. So it will be a
Speaker 1: threat if they get there to make the playoffs and
Speaker 1: then in the first round. How hard does it do
Speaker 1: you think is going to be for him to actually
Speaker 1: come back on the court Tuesday night? Do you think
Speaker 1: we're going to see him at full speed? Do you
Speaker 1: think he's I always feel like conditioning, you can always
Speaker 1: practice as much as you want, But guys, you see
Speaker 1: them get winded in a real game when they come back.
Speaker 1: He's been practicing with the team, they just won't let
Speaker 1: him in the arena during games. So what what do
Speaker 1: you think we'll see actually out on the court when
Speaker 1: he's playing against Iyon and the Pelicans.
Speaker 2: I think you see a big game from him. Like
Speaker 2: you said, he's been able to practice with the team.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're putting him through rigorous training to you know,
Speaker 2: keep his conditioning in top shape, to you know, come
Speaker 2: in and flow with the team right away. And on
Speaker 2: top of this is a young kid. This isn't something
Speaker 2: veteran that misstime. When you're this age, you can literally
Speaker 2: roll out of bed and go do what you want,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, and it's not like
Speaker 2: he's been missing time because of Andrey, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's not like he's coming back from an injury.
Speaker 2: I think he'll come in and we'll see the same
Speaker 2: start that we saw last season season before that.
Speaker 3: Like I said, he's daddy electric. I think he's going
Speaker 3: to come in and make an.
Speaker 2: Impact from game one and we'll see a different team
Speaker 2: when he returned. So I don't think it'll be an
Speaker 2: issue at all.
Speaker 1: I thinks I predict he'll be a little winded some
Speaker 1: of the time that you'll see that. But I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a really big dunk to like remind
Speaker 1: everybody is I'm excited for that, So we'll see. While
Speaker 1: we're on the subject of guys who have been under
Speaker 1: the microscope and need to change their behavior, Sham's from
Speaker 1: The Athletic reported earlier today that Draymond Green has started
Speaker 1: the counseling process. He's expected to remain sidelined via suspension
Speaker 1: for at least the next three weeks, according to shams sources.
Speaker 1: So he's already missed eleven games out of the warriors
Speaker 1: twenty six games this season because of various suspensions and
Speaker 1: other things. If he is out for three weeks like
Speaker 1: this report, it says, that would be another ten games missed.
Speaker 1: So obviously he needs to come back from this suspension
Speaker 1: a different guy because he cannot afford to keep doing
Speaker 1: this to his team. Kind of like John Rant said,
Speaker 1: and I'm just curious how Draymond makes a substantive change
Speaker 1: beyond just sort of okay, I'm not going to do
Speaker 1: this anymore because that hasn't been working to just say
Speaker 1: to himself even I'm not going to do this anymore.
Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting that Draymond has always said that,
Speaker 1: and Steve Kerr and Steph Curry have said that dray
Speaker 1: needs to play with a level of emotion to be
Speaker 1: Draymond out there, and that he has to walk that line.
Speaker 1: And clearly that line has just like moved too much
Speaker 1: toward being unacceptable and he's got to figure out how
Speaker 1: to be himself as a player. But move that line back.
Speaker 1: You play with Draymond green You guys were teammates on
Speaker 1: that Warriors team. How does he do this? How does
Speaker 1: he actually make a real change?
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's a question and answer
Speaker 2: for Draymond Greene himself, and I think he'll find an answer,
Speaker 2: you know, through self reflection, through this time that or
Speaker 2: this process that he's going through with being away from
Speaker 2: the team and being sidelined. You know, I hope he
Speaker 2: finds that answer because you know, Draymond is a close
Speaker 2: friend of mine. I'm a huge Draymond fan, and I've
Speaker 2: been on the ends of that team and understand the
Speaker 2: dynamic and.
Speaker 3: The way that puzzle works. With Draymond being in that.
Speaker 2: Puzzle, and without that puzzle piece, it just doesn't work,
Speaker 2: regardless of you know, what you want to do. I
Speaker 2: think they understand and I think you know, they're superstar
Speaker 2: and Steph Curry understands that and that's the reason he
Speaker 2: supports him the way he does. But uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I hope Draymond finds that answer. And it just sucks
Speaker 2: because we know who Draymond is as a player. You know,
Speaker 2: he's passionate, he's fired, he's he's all of these things
Speaker 2: that you know, you don't really see, and that's what
Speaker 2: makes Draymond so special. I just hate I hate the
Speaker 2: fact that that passion and then fire turns into a negative.
Speaker 2: Of course it's become it's now being spent into a negative.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, when they were winning and they
Speaker 2: were successful, it was enabled.
Speaker 3: It was okay.
Speaker 2: Then now that they're on, you know, they're slowing up
Speaker 2: and you know other teams are catching up. Now it's
Speaker 2: being spent into you know, now he needs counseling and
Speaker 2: help and all that. That's the part I don't agree.
Speaker 2: And that's the part that I don't think is okay,
Speaker 2: don't turn this passionate player into the angry black man.
Speaker 2: I just that's that's bullshit, and I don't I don't
Speaker 2: agree with it. I don't want that narrative to be,
Speaker 2: you know, spent that way. So if you know, me
Speaker 2: speaking on it can help him anyway, then that's what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. Like, but let's not try to change
Speaker 2: this guy's character or or label him as something that
Speaker 2: he's not, because this is a highly intelligent black man
Speaker 2: and he should be you know, respected as such as
Speaker 2: he fucked up. Absolutely, So that's kind of my two
Speaker 2: cents on it.
Speaker 1: I totally get that. And you know, it is about
Speaker 1: moving the line, right. He's always going to play with passion,
Speaker 1: He's always going to play on that line. He just
Speaker 1: has to move that line back. And I think the
Speaker 1: difference now between before, at least in part, is that
Speaker 1: it's cumulative, right, Like it hasn't just happened once or
Speaker 1: twice or three times. And the fact that this one
Speaker 1: happened two weeks after the last one where he was
Speaker 1: suspended five games, came back, said all the right things
Speaker 1: and said that he knew he let the team down
Speaker 1: by not being there, and said it was going to
Speaker 1: be different, and then boom, two weeks later, this happens.
Speaker 1: That's what I think led to the suspension and the
Speaker 1: indefinite suspension and everyone taking it kind of more to heart.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you with the narrative is really
Speaker 1: spun out of control. And you know, he didn't injure
Speaker 1: anyone else. He didn't you know, all that stuff. And yes,
Speaker 1: it could have been, this could have been bad, this
Speaker 1: could have been, but it wasn't. And I just I
Speaker 1: agree with you that that it's so black and white
Speaker 1: in our society about he's either a terrible person or
Speaker 1: a brilliant person and there's no apparently overlap. It's trouble
Speaker 1: and it's not fair. And you know, you and I
Speaker 1: know Drea really well, and you know he's he cares
Speaker 1: so deeply about the game and his team and is
Speaker 1: so smart and carries himself so well, you know, off
Speaker 1: the court that to me, this is a tweak more
Speaker 1: than he's got to change his whole character. But he
Speaker 1: does have to make the tweak because this can't it's cumulative,
Speaker 1: it can't keep happening.
Speaker 2: And you can now see that you know, they're not
Speaker 2: okay with it, so you have to adjust the chord,
Speaker 2: which is okay, And I think Draymond.
Speaker 3: I do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, well I hope he's back even sooner
Speaker 1: than three weeks. We'll find out. The league is more
Speaker 1: fun with Raymond in it. That's my opinion. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Sixers. They are on a roll.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been playing lights out. They are currently
Speaker 1: third in the East. But this may be one of
Speaker 1: the crazier stats I have read this season. Joel embiid
Speaker 1: Boogie has more points than minutes played. His points are
Speaker 1: seven fifty two, his minutes played are seven forty six.
Speaker 1: And here's another one. The last four games that the
Speaker 1: Sixers have played, he hasn't even played in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of any of those games because they've been winning
Speaker 1: by so much. And he hasn't played in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of eight games this season. It's just bunkers. The
Speaker 1: more points than minutes played is crazy. I think Kareema
Speaker 1: of jelg Jabar is the only person to have ever
Speaker 1: done that, which puts you in high standing. He is
Speaker 1: thirty four to twelve and six on the year. That's
Speaker 1: a career high and assists and we can add in
Speaker 1: two blocks per game as well. So look, following the
Speaker 1: James Harden deal. A lot of people thought Philly would
Speaker 1: need to add another piece to get back into contention.
Speaker 1: People kind of thought Joel deserved the MVP last year,
Speaker 1: but then Jokiic came along after that in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and you know, won the championship, ring he was the
Speaker 1: finals MVP, So it kind of wul flipped back to
Speaker 1: the narrative of he was better than embiid. I just
Speaker 1: what do you think, as a big man, of what
Speaker 1: Joel is doing this year and how how important should
Speaker 1: we look at these stats and think of what we
Speaker 1: think of him, especially compared to Yogic frankly, because that's
Speaker 1: the competition right now, and you're honest, but the comparisons
Speaker 1: are mostly with with Jokic at the moment.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm gonna just start this off by saying,
Speaker 2: I think he's the front runner for another MVP. He's
Speaker 2: showing how dominant he can be when he's healthy and
Speaker 2: on a consistent level. I think he's found his rhythm.
Speaker 2: I think he's figured out the secret sauce all of
Speaker 2: these things. You know, he's had a you know, injury history.
Speaker 2: He's passed that part. You know, it was they talked
Speaker 2: about his conditioning he's passed that part. He's figured out
Speaker 2: every knack that they tried to put against him, and
Speaker 2: he's found a way to turn it around and completely dominate.
Speaker 3: Credit to him. He's leading that team.
Speaker 2: Even though the team made a huge move with you know,
Speaker 2: getting rid of James Harden and bringing in other guys,
Speaker 2: he found a way and more credit to him. I
Speaker 2: think he's top five player in the NBA. Continue to dominate,
Speaker 2: He'll continue to lead this team. My only word is
Speaker 2: once they get to the playoffs and teams start to adjust,
Speaker 2: you know, I do still think they need that extra
Speaker 2: piece to you know, that that second or third option
Speaker 2: to help get them over the hump playoff wise. But
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm happy for the big fella. He's
Speaker 2: sewing and he's trying to separate hisself in this league
Speaker 2: and he's doing that and in my opinion, he's front
Speaker 2: running for another MVP.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think they're definitely going to make
Speaker 1: a move before the deadline to get to your playoff point.
Speaker 1: You know, they have a ton of assets now because
Speaker 1: of the James Hrden deal, so they can actually really
Speaker 1: go out and get someone. The question is is someone
Speaker 1: going to be available that would really help them. What
Speaker 1: do you think, you know, Tyrese Maxi has stepped in
Speaker 1: for James Harden and been lights out, so they don't
Speaker 1: need they don't have a glaring needed point guard, right,
Speaker 1: what else do you think they would need to take
Speaker 1: that pressure off and be and let him really shine
Speaker 1: in the postseason.
Speaker 3: I just think they need a dynamic wings.
Speaker 2: Score can give you both fans, give you about a
Speaker 2: team to twenty a game, and I think I think
Speaker 2: that that that puts them at a balanced team and
Speaker 2: it can get them over the hump in any situation
Speaker 2: that they you know, may run into during the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Joel is gonna be Joeell. But I do know in
Speaker 2: the playoffs he'll see a lot of double triple teams.
Speaker 2: It'll be a lot of schemes to you know, make
Speaker 2: him become a playmaker instead of a score or you know,
Speaker 2: just get the balls out of his get the ball
Speaker 2: out of his hands, you know as soon as he uh,
Speaker 2: you know, receives it. So you've got to have those
Speaker 2: options on the wings to you know, counter at that.
Speaker 2: But with that being said, who's the right player? I mean,
Speaker 2: Zach Lavine can come into mind. I think he fits
Speaker 2: that mold for that team. But uh, but they need.
Speaker 1: Someone who plays strong defense. I mean, you're not going
Speaker 1: to survive through the Eastern Conference playoffs in the Eastern
Speaker 1: Conference Finals if one of your guys in your starting
Speaker 1: five doesn't really defend. And I'm you know, look, I
Speaker 1: think I like Zach Levine as a player. I think
Speaker 1: if he gets in a different environment, I think we're
Speaker 1: going to see a different player. I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: much effort either one of us would put on defense
Speaker 1: if we were playing on that Chicago Bulls team. After
Speaker 1: all these years, I mean, the can has been through
Speaker 1: a lot, Like I don't even know offhand how many coaches.
Speaker 1: I mean, the environment there has sucked. I mean it's
Speaker 1: been bad, so I get it. I wouldn't come out,
Speaker 1: you know, killing myself on defense every night either, But
Speaker 1: that would have to be the condition to acquire him.
Speaker 1: To me, I would have to sit down and talk
Speaker 1: to him and his agent and just be like, dude,
Speaker 1: we need max effort from you every night on the
Speaker 1: other end of the floor, because I think that's what
Speaker 1: they need. But yeah, I mean I think that they
Speaker 1: they have the room to do that. They have the
Speaker 1: assets to outbid anyone for pretty much anyone except Oklahoma City,
Speaker 1: for anyone they want. So I'm curious to see what
Speaker 1: they add there, and we shouldn't sleep on what they
Speaker 1: already added. Because Pat Bev Nickmatoomb like Batum is not know,
Speaker 1: he's a really chill, steadying influence in the locker room
Speaker 1: right Like he's great on the floor, but he's also
Speaker 1: great kind of team dynamic wise. I think people don't
Speaker 1: really get that. And Pat Bev, man, he's gonna hold
Speaker 1: you accountable his own teammates. I mean, how much do
Speaker 1: you think that's helped Joelle to have a guy like
Speaker 1: that around who's you know, talks a lot but fires
Speaker 1: guys up.
Speaker 2: Pat Bev does what he does everywhere he goes. Pat
Speaker 2: Bev's impact is bigger than you know, the amount of
Speaker 2: points of how many minutes he plays on the floor
Speaker 2: on the ninth basis the way he can, you know,
Speaker 2: motivate these young guys, influence them to you know, play
Speaker 2: team basketball. He can influence these guys room through a
Speaker 2: wall for him, you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 2: the talent within itself. So uh, you know, Pat Bev
Speaker 2: does it everywhere. He goes and that's the reason that
Speaker 2: you know, I believe or part of the reason is
Speaker 2: sixty team brought him in. He's a great veteran voice
Speaker 2: in every locker room. He's respected and he's there to
Speaker 2: you know, hold every superstar accountable. I'll watched them do
Speaker 2: it night in and night out with the Clippers with
Speaker 2: Kawhi and PG. So either you're gonna respect her to
Speaker 2: check it and obviously you know and beat his respect
Speaker 2: and it's showing on a positive note every night. So
Speaker 2: you know, credit to Pat Bev, you know, helped leading
Speaker 2: the team and doing all the hard work and detailed
Speaker 2: work behind the scenes because it's it's playing in their favor.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of those guys. He's in that
Speaker 1: group that you know, nobody likes playing him and everybody
Speaker 1: wants him on their team. You know, that kind of guy.
Speaker 1: And I think I think he's an important piece. I
Speaker 1: think the piece, the pieces that they added this year
Speaker 1: have been a big deal on Tyrese Maxey's ascension, of course,
Speaker 1: and he's just a great person. He's happy, he's positive.
Speaker 1: Terris is just he's a lot of fun to play
Speaker 1: with his game and just his attitude so I think
Speaker 1: I think the whole vibe around that team has been
Speaker 1: so good and Joelle has been crazy good, and I
Speaker 1: agree with you, he's got a stake in the MVP
Speaker 1: conversation for sure. I mean it's it's really interesting with
Speaker 1: him and Jokic. I mean, which who do you just
Speaker 1: overall as a player? Are you a team Embad or Teamokich?
Speaker 1: Who would you put rank one or two?
Speaker 3: I'm team big Man.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I hate where they're trying to push the big
Speaker 2: man out of the game. So either one of these
Speaker 2: guys dominating also including Jannis, like any of these guys
Speaker 2: dominating and making it tough on the interior, it only
Speaker 2: helps the big man moving forward. So I'm a fan
Speaker 2: of all, don't get that part wrong. But when it
Speaker 2: comes to you know this this same you know who's
Speaker 2: better Yoki MB you can't really say who's better because
Speaker 2: they play two different games, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Once a more all around player, the other one is
Speaker 2: more of a two way guy. So uh, you know,
Speaker 2: and when it comes to picking one, it's really about
Speaker 2: your preference. What are you looking for with you know,
Speaker 2: building the team? And for me personally, I would go
Speaker 2: over them B. I feel like MB is easier to
Speaker 2: build around. I feel like you put another superstar wing
Speaker 2: guard with MB, you automatically create balance. When it comes
Speaker 2: to Yokis, that may not be the case because Yokis
Speaker 2: more is more of a guy that you know.
Speaker 3: Facilitates the offense. He is that point guard, so it's
Speaker 3: a little more it's a little more difficult to build
Speaker 3: a team around that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And then on top of that, he's not the defensive
Speaker 2: anchor that you know, Joe l Embid is, so you
Speaker 2: didn't have to figure out a situation to also correct
Speaker 2: that with building the team. So for me, I would
Speaker 2: lean towards Embid just in the simple fact that it's
Speaker 2: easier to you know, put the right pieces around them
Speaker 2: compared to Jokis, where you almost have to put the
Speaker 2: perfect team around him to be successful, and that's a
Speaker 2: little more difficult.
Speaker 3: Thing, you know, with MB. So it's all about preference.
Speaker 2: They're both incredible and great in their own right, So
Speaker 2: it really is no wrong difference, wrong answer.
Speaker 3: It's really just about preference.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, Giannis is absolutely in that
Speaker 1: same conversation, but because of the MVP stuff last year,
Speaker 1: yokicchin Embiid had been more. I want to against each other.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you, Rachel, who would you go with?
Speaker 1: It's so hard. I had to vote for the MVP
Speaker 1: last year, I voted for Embid. I thought he one
Speaker 1: hundred percent deserved it. I didn't think it was even
Speaker 1: as close as it was portrayed to be because I
Speaker 1: thought Jokic kind of, you know, that whole Denver team
Speaker 1: basically the last month of the season was not going
Speaker 1: full speed, and it is a full season award, so
Speaker 1: to me, I wanted the guy who put together the
Speaker 1: full season. I kind of agree with you just in that,
Speaker 1: like they play so differently, it's a little bit hard
Speaker 1: to compare them. I think what Jokic does is such
Speaker 1: a like different skill set than we've seen, and just
Speaker 1: the way he passes and sort of all of that.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that, but I also appreciate just sort
Speaker 1: of the way and be overpowers a game and that
Speaker 1: more traditional big man style, and of course he can
Speaker 1: shoot threes and do all the other stuff, but he
Speaker 1: just he has that freight train part of him that
Speaker 1: I love to watch. And I don't know the three
Speaker 1: finalists for MVP being all big men was so interesting
Speaker 1: to me because it was such a guard heavy conversation league.
Speaker 1: You know, ever since Steph Curry came in, we still
Speaker 1: have so many guards. You know, when I fill out
Speaker 1: my All Star ballot every year, the guards are the
Speaker 1: spots that it's hard to figure out who goes where.
Speaker 1: When I fill out All MBA every year, it's very
Speaker 1: hard to figure out, you know, kind of who goes
Speaker 1: where because we have so many great guards, but the
Speaker 1: top three guys all big men. So I just think
Speaker 1: that's fascinating in terms of the direction the league is going.
Speaker 1: You know, big men are fighting back that they're not
Speaker 1: letting them take away the NBA from them, So there
Speaker 1: we go. What I like about this deal for the
Speaker 1: Sixers Clippers deal is that, you know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: working out for both sides, and I love trades like that.
Speaker 1: And you know, when Harden first got to the Clippers,
Speaker 1: I know it didn't go well, but I said many
Speaker 1: times on this podcast or when I my gig on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports, I was like, this was a good trade, Like,
Speaker 1: even if it doesn't do everything it's supposed to do,
Speaker 1: it was a good trade because they were stuck and
Speaker 1: they needed to get unstuck. And the truth is that
Speaker 1: once they sort of figured out a system, and that
Speaker 1: system really involved Russ coming off the bench instead of
Speaker 1: being a they are twelve and three since that decision
Speaker 1: was made, and they are currently on a seven game
Speaker 1: winning streak. And it's been a little quiet, you know,
Speaker 1: because there's been so much stuff going on in the league,
Speaker 1: and the Ncason Tournament was in the middle of that
Speaker 1: and everything. But they are a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard has played every single game. He is healthy.
Speaker 1: Paul George has played twenty four out of twenty five games.
Speaker 1: He is healthy. I mean, what do you see when
Speaker 1: you watch this Clippers team, and what do you credit
Speaker 1: to this big turnaround?
Speaker 3: What do I see?
Speaker 2: I see a team that's right now flowing under the radar,
Speaker 2: which is a good thing in their favor.
Speaker 3: We've both spoke on it.
Speaker 2: It's going to take time for this team to figure
Speaker 2: it out. With you know, being four Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: potential Hall of famers on one team, it's only one basketball.
Speaker 2: They're all at a point in their career where they're
Speaker 2: still in their prime, but they're also you know, this
Speaker 2: is the part of their crew or the decline starts
Speaker 2: to happen, you know what I mean. And you know,
Speaker 2: this is an important time in their career. It's about winning.
Speaker 2: It's about you know, solidifying their careers with you know,
Speaker 2: championship rings. And they're all in that position now and
Speaker 2: they're all bought in and it's obvious they're on the
Speaker 2: seven game win the streak right now. So you know,
Speaker 2: if I'm this Clippers team, I want to continue to
Speaker 2: flow under the radar. I don't want the media coverage.
Speaker 2: I don't want the attention because that can become draining.
Speaker 2: When it's just constant coverage about every mistake or every
Speaker 2: positive you make, those plays become pressured in with every
Speaker 2: possession and it's a lot, it can become drained and
Speaker 2: mentally draining, and by the time the playoffs come, you're
Speaker 2: mentally drained from the entire regular season. So I think
Speaker 2: this play is in their favor. You know, if I'm
Speaker 2: that team, I want to stay under the radar and
Speaker 2: you know, just continue to build build that confidence, build
Speaker 2: that chemistry, and you know, release the monster once the
Speaker 2: playoffs comes.
Speaker 3: But when it comes to.
Speaker 2: You know, crediting, how you know, making all these things
Speaker 2: work well. One, it's a group, it's a group effort.
Speaker 2: It has to be everybody bought in. But the person
Speaker 2: that I don't believe gets enough credit is tylok Uh.
Speaker 2: Tyleru gets somewhere. He gets so much heat year in
Speaker 2: the year out for you know, the changes made with
Speaker 2: this team or the you know, the low management and
Speaker 2: just the different things that you know, continue to circulate
Speaker 2: around his team. And you know, he stays the float
Speaker 2: through every storm. And you got to appreciate that in
Speaker 2: the coach.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's also a talent to be able to manage
Speaker 2: these egos. That's not an easy thing to do. I
Speaker 2: think that's something that gets overlooked when it comes to coaching.
Speaker 2: It's not just about exus and those. It's not just
Speaker 2: about creating the perfect system. It's about being able to
Speaker 2: manage different egos and differ different personality. That's a skill
Speaker 2: within itself, And like I said, I think that gets
Speaker 2: overlooked a lot when it comes to coaching. I think
Speaker 2: the best coaches, or the most well rounded coaches are
Speaker 2: the ones that can you know, coach any ego, manage
Speaker 2: with any ego. You think about guys like Phil Jackson. Uh,
Speaker 2: he had to manage the egos of Jordan, Scottie Pippen
Speaker 2: and Dennis Rodman. So and he was able to do it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And the list goes on
Speaker 2: Shaq and Kobe. Those are different type personalities. So that's
Speaker 2: a skill in itself, and it does and I don't
Speaker 2: think TLU gets enough credit for that. So you know,
Speaker 2: credit to him, you know, keep that thing afloat, and
Speaker 2: you know, I wish some success this season, and I
Speaker 2: think they will have a successful season. You know, I
Speaker 2: think they're on the right path, and you know, they'll
Speaker 2: continue to you know, float under the radar and they'll
Speaker 2: have a big season towards the end.
Speaker 1: I don't think they could have made this trade without
Speaker 1: Tyler being their coach. And I think that seventy five
Speaker 1: percent of the coaches in the league and this is
Speaker 1: not a knock on the coaching in the NBA, but
Speaker 1: everyone has different skill sets. His particular skill set fit
Speaker 1: with this plan right. And I asked Steve Kerr about
Speaker 1: TYLERU a few weeks ago, because of course ty was
Speaker 1: with him on Team USA this past summer, and he
Speaker 1: said that, you know, he always knew how good Tyler was,
Speaker 1: It's not like a's surprised these guys coach against each other.
Speaker 1: But he said just seeing him interrelate to the players
Speaker 1: and how he to the players was so interesting for
Speaker 1: Steve and Steve's it's got great rapport with his players too.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are two coaches that are players coaches.
Speaker 1: But he said the way Tie does it was so fascinating,
Speaker 1: and he's just loose with his attitude, but he says
Speaker 1: everything with purpose, and that combination is really gets through
Speaker 1: to guys. And then the other side of it, you know,
Speaker 1: I think there's a temptation with a guy who is
Speaker 1: a former player and who does has such a good
Speaker 1: rapport with players, and you can see it to just
Speaker 1: sort of when he was at the Caps, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of like, oh, well, you know, he knows
Speaker 1: how to handle Lebron and that's why they're winning, or
Speaker 1: that's why he's a good coach. He is a fucking
Speaker 1: good xCE and no coach like his out of time
Speaker 1: outplays are always exceptional, Like I don't think he sometimes
Speaker 1: gets enough credit for that, and that the schemes and
Speaker 1: stuff that he runs, like I think sometimes because he's
Speaker 1: so good with the personalities, it overshadows you know, what
Speaker 1: a good technical basketball coach he is. So for all
Speaker 1: those reasons, mixing these four guys technically on the floor
Speaker 1: and how you put them and where you put them,
Speaker 1: and then also the player relation aspect to me is
Speaker 1: a big reason why they're succeeding. And then of course
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. You know, look, the story that was put
Speaker 1: out was that he asked to go to the bench
Speaker 1: for the good of the team. Did he I don't know.
Speaker 1: Does someone have a conversation with him and then decide
Speaker 1: to spare his ego? They would put that story out. Well,
Speaker 1: never know, but the fact that he's done it, and
Speaker 1: he's done it with you know, good form, and he
Speaker 1: hasn't been a problem. You know, you and I are
Speaker 1: both talked. You know, we're big fans of Russell Westbrook
Speaker 1: in the way he is a teammate. And I think
Speaker 1: we've seen that again too. So I love what they're
Speaker 1: doing over there. I agree with you about the under
Speaker 1: the radar thing being good because they're more pressure and
Speaker 1: attention the more people ask for us. So why are
Speaker 1: you going to the bench? What do you think about
Speaker 1: being on the bench? You know, like all that stuff
Speaker 1: can inflame issues and the fact that they're just humming
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know. I think they're super fascinating team.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what they can do in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And everyone's going to stay healthy. But so
Speaker 1: far that's happened. All right, we got to get to
Speaker 1: the big games this week. Set a reminder, Boogie, which
Speaker 1: game are you going to make sure is on your calendar?
Speaker 1: On Wednesday, we've got Wolves at Sixers. We've also got
Speaker 1: Clippers at Mavericks. That's gonna be a good one. We're
Speaker 1: just talking about how good these teams are and the
Speaker 1: Luca Clippers rivalry is always fun to see. Thursday, we've
Speaker 1: got Clippers at Thunder. That's always interesting considering the trade
Speaker 1: that happened with those teams. Lakers at Wolves also on Thursday,
Speaker 1: and Minnesota tuber Wolves. Speaking of under the radar, I
Speaker 1: mean they are cruising right now. They still have the
Speaker 1: number one defense in the league. All the parts that
Speaker 1: weren't working last year with Rudy Gobert and Karl Anthony
Speaker 1: Towns and Aunt has just ascended even more so. I
Speaker 1: think that game is going to be fascinating. You've got
Speaker 1: Celtics at Clippers on Saturday. You've also got Lakers at
Speaker 1: Thunder on Saturday. And we'll get to the Christmas Day
Speaker 1: games when we talk for next week. But for that week,
Speaker 1: for these games, which game are you most interested in?
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to Wednesday, you know, obviously with the
Speaker 2: big man matchup between embiid and and Gobert and Kat.
Speaker 3: I think that'd be really entertaining.
Speaker 2: We'll get to see if you know, and Bed can
Speaker 2: continue to dominate against the number one defense in the league, uh,
Speaker 2: anchored by you know, another big and Rudy Gobert. So
Speaker 2: that'll be a great match up, old school basketball, two
Speaker 2: bigs going at it. And you know, obviously that Clippers
Speaker 2: and Mavericks game, you know, their rivalry stems, you know,
Speaker 2: deep from the past, and this Clipper team is now
Speaker 2: in a rhythm, so it'll be good to see them
Speaker 2: against another, you know, playoff caliber team and just see
Speaker 2: how they match up with that and Uh, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna be able to see if their their defense can
Speaker 2: match up with you know, high powered offense player by Luca,
Speaker 2: So I think that'll be a great matchup as well.
Speaker 3: So Wednesday night definitely has got my attention, and.
Speaker 1: Look, Embiid has like a little mini beef with I
Speaker 1: think every other big man in the league, but he's
Speaker 1: definitely got a little one with Rudy Gobert. There's some
Speaker 1: history there, so I think it'll be funny. Also, all right,
Speaker 1: Draftking segment, I'll take that bet. We're going to talk
Speaker 1: about the Warriors playoffs. So the odds for the Warriors
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs right now, Yes, at plus one
Speaker 1: thirty five, No, at minus one seventy. Golden State currently
Speaker 1: eleventh in the West. They have a twelve and fourteen record,
Speaker 1: and by the way, we just talked about Draymond probably
Speaker 1: gonna be out for the next ten games, so we
Speaker 1: can't expect them to just take off Klay Thompson the
Speaker 1: last three games. Definitely, his level play is gone up
Speaker 1: twenty seven points per game on fifty four percent three
Speaker 1: point shooting, so that's that's better. He was in such
Speaker 1: a slump at the start of the season. Draymond Green,
Speaker 1: as we said, not going to be there. Andrew Wiggins
Speaker 1: now coming off the bench, which I thought was an
Speaker 1: interesting move. So it's going to be kind of interesting
Speaker 1: to see how much that tweak helps in Draymond's absence.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what do you think are you
Speaker 1: Are you taking the bet that the Warriors are going
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs or you think they're not getting in.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to ever count this team out
Speaker 2: just because of their history and their DNA and you know,
Speaker 2: just a decade work for time. When it comes to
Speaker 2: the chemistry, like this is a team that can literally
Speaker 2: hit the switch and turned it on. It's hard to
Speaker 2: sit here and say they won't make the playoffs because
Speaker 2: they're not playing their best basketball right now. They are
Speaker 2: missing a vittal piece in Draymond Green, and we don't
Speaker 2: know how long he'll be absent.
Speaker 3: Wiggins is in the slump.
Speaker 2: It it's hard for me to ever go against this
Speaker 2: team when they make the playoffs. I think they will.
Speaker 2: I think this rhythm which he's yeah, I'm taking a back.
Speaker 2: Clay Thompson is finding his rhythm. You get him shooting
Speaker 2: anywhere close to what he's accustomed to doing. Their dangerous team,
Speaker 2: Steph Curry will continue to be Steph Curry. My hope
Speaker 2: is that this team makes a move. They make a
Speaker 2: move that can get this team over the hump. They
Speaker 2: have to get another score on this team to complement
Speaker 2: these guys. I think they dropped the ball with the
Speaker 2: Jordan Poole move. My opinion, I think I'd rather have
Speaker 2: sat those two down and like, hey, y'all.
Speaker 3: Need to figure this ship out.
Speaker 1: Just work it out.
Speaker 2: You know, we have championship aspirations. Y'all need to figure
Speaker 2: this shit out so we can move forward. I think
Speaker 2: they just I think they settled with what they did
Speaker 2: with the Jordan Pool Jordan Poole move. I don't think
Speaker 2: they got the best piece back to help improve this
Speaker 2: team or even just keep them afloat or keep them
Speaker 2: at the same level.
Speaker 3: But you know that's done.
Speaker 2: And but at the end of the day, I just
Speaker 2: it's hard for me to ever say this team isn't
Speaker 2: a threat, because they always will be.
Speaker 3: As long as Steph courageally.
Speaker 2: In this team, as long as Klay Thompson is back
Speaker 2: end up, enjoy mind being the anchor defensively and the
Speaker 2: voice of the team, I think they always have a chance.
Speaker 2: It's just about you know, making the right move moving
Speaker 2: forward and filling out those you know, those key pieces
Speaker 2: to keeping this team afloat and moving forward.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they don't have that many tradable assets,
Speaker 1: just because you know, they have a lot of guys
Speaker 1: who are kind of at a low point of their
Speaker 1: play right now and contract wise and everything else. Chris
Speaker 1: Paul could get moved again. Andrew Wiggins could get moved,
Speaker 1: but again, like he's not playing well, so what are
Speaker 1: you getting back for him? Is complicated. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: you've got Clay on an expiring deal. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could deal him, but I think that would mess with
Speaker 1: their chemistry so much in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting side bet, though, Boogie, because at the
Speaker 1: beginning of next season, are we going to see this
Speaker 1: exact same pour still on the Warriors? Are they going
Speaker 1: to re sign Clay? Clay would have to take a
Speaker 1: pretty big discount for them to fit all the pieces together.
Speaker 1: Is Clay Thompson going to be there at the beginning
Speaker 1: next season? Is Draymond going to be there? They just
Speaker 1: signed him to a four year, very expensive deal. But
Speaker 1: maybe they decide over the summer it's not worth it anymore.
Speaker 1: They try to, you know, some team is going to
Speaker 1: want him, so I don't know. Do you think that
Speaker 1: that they'll be there? Do you think Steve Kerr will
Speaker 1: be there. What do you think who's going to be
Speaker 1: there and who's missing? What's your said bet on that
Speaker 1: at the beginning of season.
Speaker 2: I think it depends on how this season plays out.
Speaker 2: I think they'll finish the season with these guys just
Speaker 2: to you know, see if they are if they do
Speaker 2: still have that push to make you know, title runs.
Speaker 2: If it is just a situation where you know, are
Speaker 2: these the correct pieces to move for or should we start,
Speaker 2: you know, our rebuilding process. I know one guy that
Speaker 2: will be there. It'll be Steph Curry. Regardless if they're
Speaker 2: playing for championship or rebuilding, he will be there. It's
Speaker 2: hard to determine if they can figure the contract situation
Speaker 2: out with Klay Thompson because you know, obviously the one
Speaker 2: they offered is you know, it's laughable with what this
Speaker 2: guy's brought to this team. You know, the championships, the
Speaker 2: increase of value when it comes to this team, like,
Speaker 2: all of these things play a part in that, and
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson was a part of that. So to sit
Speaker 2: there and then offer, you know, just a bullshit deal
Speaker 2: to a future Hall of Famer, a guy that's a
Speaker 2: big part of why this team is. You know as
Speaker 2: it is now, like is laughable. So that's something they
Speaker 2: definitely have to figure out. And you know, I'm with
Speaker 2: Klay tough and you deserve what you deserve, bro, and
Speaker 2: I hope you get yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's difficult just because of
Speaker 1: all the other contracts they've gotten themselves into and making
Speaker 1: those pieces fit. But I don't think Steph Curry is
Speaker 1: going through a rebuilding session. I don't think he's interested
Speaker 1: in that at all. You know, he said he wants
Speaker 1: to play until he's like thirty seven, thirty eight. I
Speaker 1: asked him about that because like my dad played until
Speaker 1: he was thirty eight, I want to play, you know
Speaker 1: that long. And he's he's interesting winning another title, And
Speaker 1: I don't think that with him being the core of
Speaker 1: that team, if management sat him down and said are
Speaker 1: you good with this, I don't think the answer would
Speaker 1: be yes. Of a rebuild, I don't think he'd be
Speaker 1: in for that. So the question is sort of how
Speaker 1: do they manage what they have while adding pieces? As
Speaker 1: you said, it's going to be interesting the Clay Thompson situation.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the way this is going to work out,
Speaker 1: But You're right, man. He's been such a big part
Speaker 1: of what they do, you know, so tied to Steph.
Speaker 1: You know, the way movement works with that team requires Clay,
Speaker 1: you know, to be there and to be just that
Speaker 1: catch and shoot guy. So I'm it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: But all right, Boogey Cousins taking the bet the Warriors
Speaker 1: are gonna make the playoffs. You also think the Grizzlies
Speaker 1: are making the playoffs. So some of these teams are
Speaker 1: getting knocked out in Boogie World. But we'll get to that.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that leader. I know a team that
Speaker 1: is not making the play and they lead off play
Speaker 1: in I know a team that is not making the
Speaker 1: play in either. This is part of our doom Scroll
Speaker 1: segment for the week we check the internet so you
Speaker 1: won't have to Detroit. Boogie Cousins has lost twenty three
Speaker 1: in a row. Twenty three. I mean, you were on
Speaker 1: some bad Kings teams, but your longest losing streak was eight.
Speaker 1: I mean, what the hell, man, how do you lose
Speaker 1: twenty three games in a row?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's tough. That's that's really really tough. You're
Speaker 2: asking me how. I have no clue. I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't relate to this in any way, shape or form. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's a tough situation to be in. But
Speaker 2: you know that's his the NBA. It's hard to win
Speaker 2: games in the NBA. Detroit's a young team.
Speaker 3: Had obvious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I wish I had to answer to this.
Speaker 2: I just don't. But you know, to their defense, they
Speaker 2: are a young team. They are still figuring out things.
Speaker 2: They're trying to find their identity. I think they got
Speaker 2: one piece right so far, well more than one piece right.
Speaker 2: But as of you know, the coaching, I think Mine
Speaker 2: Williams is a great coach for that team. I think
Speaker 2: he's a great motivator. I think he'll get these guys
Speaker 2: mine in the right space to you know, becoming winning,
Speaker 2: a winning team and winning players. K Cunningham is an
Speaker 2: incredible game.
Speaker 1: One game's tasket. Yeah, they don't need a winning mentality
Speaker 1: or to get right. They need to win one.
Speaker 2: Game, win the game, win a game, a gamely.
Speaker 1: An a game, just give us that. I want to
Speaker 1: look at a few highlights that social media has given us.
Speaker 1: This This one is crazy. Have you seen this picture?
Speaker 1: Yannis had his kids on the bench wall. The Bucks
Speaker 1: were blowing out the Pistons during the game. This is insane.
Speaker 1: I've never seen this before.
Speaker 3: Early. I mean another, how would you.
Speaker 1: Feel if you looked across the court and his kids
Speaker 1: on the bench. That's wrong, that's wrong. Also, uh, this
Speaker 1: one that Draymond Green has more injections than the Pistons
Speaker 1: have wins. Uh. You know that's a sad, sad stat
Speaker 1: on both sides actually, so don't like that one. And
Speaker 1: then uh, even Wingstop the little fun with the Pistons.
Speaker 1: So usually they give out five free wings if the
Speaker 1: Pistons win. Right, that has been their promotion. Right, All
Speaker 1: the arenas have one of these promotions, you know, two
Speaker 1: free throws blah blah blah. The Pistons had the Wingstop promo,
Speaker 1: We'll give out five wings to you if the Pistons win,
Speaker 1: and instead Wingstop tweeted, we could do five free wings
Speaker 1: for every loss, because you guys need to win, and
Speaker 1: you know they deserve to win. So if even if
Speaker 1: they lose, they want they want to give people wings.
Speaker 1: So there's something there for Pistons fans. This is sad.
Speaker 1: One win, one win, let's start baby steps. One win.
Speaker 1: There we go this is what I want to see
Speaker 1: this week before we we convene for Christmas Christmas podcast.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want to see one win for the Pistons.
Speaker 3: I want to know what the bend line.
Speaker 1: Dude, right, we gotta get DraftKings on that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they have draft kings on that. One one win,
Speaker 1: that's all you gotta do. One win. I know you
Speaker 1: guys got it in you. Let's go. Things are so bad.
Speaker 1: The Hawks are twelve and a half point favorites to
Speaker 1: win the game tonight. So yeah, one win, just one.
Speaker 1: Don't think it's gonna come tonight. Maybe we'll one win
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