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Speaker 1: Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast, your night for all East.

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Speaker 2: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers. Scot

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Speaker 2: see what's up you guys.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in to iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast, the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 3: And man, it is a very busy week for ae W.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got aw Dynamite taking place tonight at

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Speaker 3: the h EB Center in Austin, of course on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Night as well. You got aw All in Texas in July.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Texas is a big, big wrestling territory, and

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Speaker 3: somebody who knows a thing or two about wrestling territories

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Speaker 3: and wrestling in Texas give it up for our guest,

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Speaker 3: Dustin Rhodes on the show.

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Speaker 4: Dustin, how are you doing great? Babe? Man?

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Speaker 3: It is an honor and a privilege to have you

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Speaker 3: on the show. We're gonna go ahead and tell you this.

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Speaker 3: This has been one of those interviews that we have

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Speaker 3: tried to get for for many years since you came

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Speaker 3: over to AW We had your brother on, and we've

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Speaker 3: always said, hey, we want to talk to Dustin, we

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Speaker 3: want to talk to Dustin, and they're like, oh, dust

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Speaker 3: is too.

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Speaker 2: Busy for you little guys. Down there.

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Speaker 4: No never man, never glad to be on. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was actually at the first double or nothing, so

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Speaker 4: To see match. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much pretty much since the beginning, we've been like

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Speaker 1: we gotta get dusted on that, you know.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, glad to have you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So let's kind of let's kind of talk about it

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Speaker 3: You look at Aw's roster and it is stacked with

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Speaker 3: young talent, talent that have been around for a while

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Speaker 3: that know what's going on. You've been a mentor to

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Speaker 3: many in the locker room. Who do you see as

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Speaker 3: that next breakout star?

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Speaker 4: God, we got so many, you know. I think Darby

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Speaker 4: is an unreal talent. You know, Little Osprey, all these guys,

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Speaker 4: they're just they're killing it every single week doing doing

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Speaker 4: amazing things in the ring that you know, I could

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Speaker 4: only wish to do. It's it's some crazy stuff they do,

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Speaker 4: and they're you know, they they're gaining this popularity and

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Speaker 4: I think that that is definitely the future.

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Speaker 1: Another one that's been really exciting to say is Harley Cameron.

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Speaker 1: You know, like we has been incredibly talented, but now

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Speaker 4: That she is and I think this is going to

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Speaker 4: You know, it's going to be a heck of a match.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually coaching that match, producing it so very nice

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Speaker 4: as well as wrestling that night, so it should be

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Speaker 4: a lot of fun. Har's doing an outstanding job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she really is. Speaking of you know, upcoming events

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Speaker 1: and what's in the news and stuff. You're currently kind

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Speaker 1: of in the program with MJF at the moment. What

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Speaker 4: Now, it's pretty cool. I mean, what has Max been

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Speaker 4: and he got under my skin. And you know, here

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Speaker 4: Max Is he's a special character and he is in

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Speaker 4: every right doing a great job. But you know, when

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Speaker 4: it comes to somebody that has been there and very

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Speaker 4: experienced and been through just about everything imaginable, there's nothing

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Speaker 4: done before. And so that's I've got nothing to lose.

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Speaker 4: He's got everything to lose.

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Speaker 3: Of course, AW Dynamite takeing place Tonight's and tomorrow AGB

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Speaker 3: and of course you can also grab them at Ticketmaster. Now,

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Speaker 2: You see a lot of things on the internet.

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Speaker 3: You see a lot of reportings, and you know there

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Speaker 2: And trying to figure out where is Stufton going next?

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Speaker 4: So my aspirations, and they've always been the number one

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a thing.

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Speaker 4: My brother's the champ right now. My dad has been

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Speaker 4: And sometimes I don't know what's holding my body together,

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Speaker 4: and it's just I could do it blindfold. It's it's

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Speaker 4: I love it. I'm just blessed to still be in

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Speaker 1: Baby, and and you're not holding the world titles. Kind

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Speaker 1: of one of those like drinking game questions like of

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Speaker 1: one thing that I think really has blown a lot

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Speaker 4: So I grew up in Austin and I grew up

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Speaker 4: And I wanted Kevin there especially. And you know, these

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Speaker 4: And like we say, we have a pretty giant roster

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Speaker 4: I know Marshall had a partially torn peck and that's

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine the pop you have Dustin and Von

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Speaker 2: It happens. It all out. You've got dustin, You've got

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Speaker 3: Do you have a particular song that you want Tony

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? Stranglehold, I mean that's that song with for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm getting goosebumps thinking about that right now,

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Speaker 3: And just that crowd erupts, and then I could see

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Speaker 4: You know, Dad was pretty simple with me, said, I

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Speaker 4: probably five or six years I didn't say a word.

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Speaker 4: It's tough. It's because you have this expectation you're a

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Speaker 4: Are you going to get to that level? Are you

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Speaker 4: It's just like when you're first training to jump into business.

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Speaker 4: It takes years to really hone your craft. But to

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And you know I gotta say, you know,

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Speaker 4: I would sure want that. I mean, that's that's the goal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I kid you not like you know,

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Speaker 3: That's hard, but it's it's great, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: That's the computer Cory, that's not us. I'm kind of

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Dustin again, it's an honor and a

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