Speaker 1: That's that's not that's not what we're doing. This isn't
Speaker 1: this is the different show. This is NERD difficent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is nerdifficent, time for the spooky, time for the spooky.
Speaker 1: This is the sister nerdident said, this sis NERD different
Speaker 1: s spooky. Yeah. If you hosted, and across from him
Speaker 1: is Danny, and we have a guest here to heat
Speaker 1: and pain is Daniel Radford. And we're talking fuffy today. Nerdy, Nerdy, Nerdy.
Speaker 1: That was a banker intro. Right. I love you for
Speaker 1: doing the goose Bumps not on our goose Bumps episode,
Speaker 1: you know that's that for that episode we're doing the
Speaker 1: Halloween theme. Yeah. Yeah, you said make it spooky. You
Speaker 1: can't do the song of the thing you're doing the thing.
Speaker 1: You're doing it like shirt. Oh my gosh, do you
Speaker 1: do that argument? I agree. Look, if I go to
Speaker 1: if I can afford tickets to On the Run three
Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm wearing to Gloria Stefans like concert, I'm
Speaker 1: wearing a Gloria shirt. When I went to the Life
Speaker 1: of Pablo Tour, I wore the Life of Pablo Tour
Speaker 1: merch I went I bought when I saw the first
Speaker 1: time because I went to see it twice. Uh didn't
Speaker 1: hold up. What a rough ass year for Kanye fans.
Speaker 1: You know, we first Kanye then Taylor Swift. They flipped sides.
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's like a third the third movie
Speaker 1: in a trilogy. And uh and Taylor Swist good, can't
Speaker 1: you way betrayed us? All? Uh? You know, look you
Speaker 1: have to have that. Really we had that. But now
Speaker 1: I think we're coming out of it. I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: this is actually the part, like this is the act too.
Speaker 1: Things get real dark and then they get a little
Speaker 1: darker before the dawn. But we'll see what happens. And Danny,
Speaker 1: when you say, who made up that rule? Metal nerds
Speaker 1: and they're dumb metal nerds made up that rule. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was all grunge and metal dudes. And then they like,
Speaker 1: you can't wear the shirt. You got to buy a
Speaker 1: new shirt. Yeah, and to bring it back to nerdives
Speaker 1: and it was probably because the gate keeping somebody was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you you like you like fist Fire, Then name five
Speaker 1: of their top hits and why are you wearing their
Speaker 1: shirt to the show and strong We'll take you. That's
Speaker 1: always my go too is that Trapped song strong take
Speaker 1: on anyone, you know what. I worked at Game Works
Speaker 1: for a while and Trapped was one of the songs
Speaker 1: and then videos we played most often g TV. How
Speaker 1: can you? We're just gonna keep singing everything. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: welcome Tontificent. We have with us the host of the
Speaker 1: Tits and Fights podcast, as well as a host at
Speaker 1: Screen Junkies, Dale Radford. Thank you guys so much driving me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're one of our best friends. Yeah, it's true, it's true. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're covering Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which you were the
Speaker 1: obvious choice because you just love it so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really I guess too. I started watching Buffy right
Speaker 1: when it was ending, okay weirdly enough, so I started
Speaker 1: in the seventh season, which most people think is like
Speaker 1: the crappiest on up n on up n Yes, um,
Speaker 1: and so a lot of people think it's like not
Speaker 1: the best season, but that was the one I started
Speaker 1: on because I saw Firefly first, and then when I
Speaker 1: got canceled, I was like, let me go back and
Speaker 1: check out. Also, you're not loud because we're close to
Speaker 1: the It might just be your phone because I'm really
Speaker 1: loud and then our guests are always quieter than me,
Speaker 1: so it'll because I am the loudest person, please be.
Speaker 1: You got your wrestling voice on, so you know. Uh so, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Everyone pretty much knows it as
Speaker 1: a show, but it really started off as a movie.
Speaker 1: I actually knew about the show before the movie, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what's the bootleg movie? It does feel
Speaker 1: like a bootleg movie after you've seen the show. It
Speaker 1: feels like the cheaper version of that. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: reason why that we get into as to why it
Speaker 1: came out the way that it did, but just starting out.
Speaker 1: The creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer Josh Sweden uh
Speaker 1: He is an American screenwriter, director, a comic book writer
Speaker 1: known for creating the shows of Angel, which came after
Speaker 1: Buffy Firefly, and writing directing the Avengers film as well
Speaker 1: as Age of Ultron sort of skipping Dollhouse and doll House.
Speaker 1: You know, he has a lot of things on here.
Speaker 1: He also was one of the screenwriters for Toy Store,
Speaker 1: which got him an Academy Award nomination. We could go
Speaker 1: on forever, but we are talking about Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Speaker 1: Danielle we're talking to make fun of that. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to make fun of Dollhouse. Okay. So when he
Speaker 1: went into Buffy the Vampires, when he was going into
Speaker 1: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, he was coming fresh off of
Speaker 1: the show Roseanne. Do you know that I did, which
Speaker 1: is like such a weird Well, he was like a
Speaker 1: comedy writer. Yeah, and so he My understanding is so
Speaker 1: his folks are both writers in England. Um, and so
Speaker 1: that is how he became a writer, and Roseanne was
Speaker 1: one of his biggest gigs before he was able to
Speaker 1: go do Buffy. Yeah, he also did was like a
Speaker 1: script doctor Princess princess who for I just got that
Speaker 1: reference um for for um like Twister and water World
Speaker 1: and and movies like that, other movies that didn't work
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. So, yes, he was coming fresh off
Speaker 1: of Roseanne, and he wrote the screenplay about Buffy the
Speaker 1: Vampire Slayer. He says that Rhonda the Immortal Waitress was
Speaker 1: really the first incarnation of the Buffy concept. This isn't
Speaker 1: quote the idea of some woman who seems to be
Speaker 1: completely insignificant who turns out to be extraordinary. He basically
Speaker 1: wanted to go against the Hollywood formula of a little
Speaker 1: blonde girl who goes into a dark alley and gets
Speaker 1: killed in every horror movie by making that little blonde
Speaker 1: girl the hero instead. And uh yeah, so he wrote
Speaker 1: the screenplay for Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which is great
Speaker 1: and also one of the reasons why. And we'll talk
Speaker 1: about this, i'm sure later when people have been complaining
Speaker 1: about the reboot um which again is not going to
Speaker 1: be it's not like a retelling. We don't know what
Speaker 1: it's going to be yet. But yes, the idea that
Speaker 1: you take a black woman who is also one of
Speaker 1: the first people to get killed in a horror movie
Speaker 1: and you make that person and you center them. It
Speaker 1: continues the legacy of Buffy. But blah blah blah. Also,
Speaker 1: just it's not real. It's sci fi. There's vampires, so whatever.
Speaker 1: People like, how could it be a black woman because
Speaker 1: it's sci fi, like it could be. Actually, I'd say
Speaker 1: it classifies as a neo fantasy because we're talking about
Speaker 1: vampires in the lines. You could have demons that can't
Speaker 1: have like people of color. Yeah, no, that was the
Speaker 1: excuse forever with Game of Thrones and like there's dragons
Speaker 1: like it doesn't. Well, it's just because they were in
Speaker 1: this time, in what time? And dragon time? Well, what
Speaker 1: time is that. It's a different continent. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not our earth. Well, if I can pause them and
Speaker 1: then meet them on the same playing field, they are
Speaker 1: still wrong. There is a common misconception that black people
Speaker 1: didn't exist in medieval time because of the way that
Speaker 1: we're taught history. But teach them. There are many good
Speaker 1: resources online now, like Medieval POC, which will show you
Speaker 1: many medieval era art that shows black people not only
Speaker 1: existing but being in monarchy and high positions and nobility
Speaker 1: in fancy, fancy fancy outfits, not just like oh I'm
Speaker 1: a maid or whatever, because you all just like manifest
Speaker 1: one day, how does it even work? We're like zeus,
Speaker 1: he just like cleaved us out of the head of
Speaker 1: another just like one day and egg cracks and a
Speaker 1: black person comes out, like, what the heck happened? How
Speaker 1: do they think that? I'm just confused by the I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to cut you. Oh no, it's no,
Speaker 1: this is a good convo. And no, you're right, because
Speaker 1: I almost don't blame anyone because we're not even talk
Speaker 1: like if you remember when the Moors were discussed, you
Speaker 1: the language used is Muslim, which there were primarily Muslim,
Speaker 1: but they were black, and but that's never specifically said.
Speaker 1: So you hear Moores and it sounds like another type
Speaker 1: of person, unless your teacher were to elaborate. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: like a darker Italian. All right, let's go back to
Speaker 1: exactly four years after me and Danny first came to
Speaker 1: this trash read me. The film went into production at
Speaker 1: one century Fox. The comedy about a valley girl turned
Speaker 1: vampire slayer starred Christie Swanson, Luke Perry, and Donald Sutherland.
Speaker 1: Wanting it to be a summer blockbuster, they rushed the
Speaker 1: production of the film. Josh Weeden said of the movie,
Speaker 1: there were certain people instead who clearly didn't get it
Speaker 1: or care about it. And I'm not talking about the director.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about other people that it made me crazy
Speaker 1: and I eventually left. The movie was released on July
Speaker 1: thirty one. Didn't do so hot. I didn't do so
Speaker 1: hot at all. I loved it. I remember when the
Speaker 1: first Buffy the Vampire Slayer, like I shouldn't say the first.
Speaker 1: I remember when Buffy the van Bear Slayer came out
Speaker 1: and something that I've talked about in multiple places and
Speaker 1: multiple platforms. I love me a bad movie. I love
Speaker 1: them so much, and so for me, Buffy was a
Speaker 1: really fun bad movie. I remember you loved Venom, Um.
Speaker 1: I did because it's hot, trash and it's amazing garbage.
Speaker 1: Oh it's garbage. If you don't like garbage and you
Speaker 1: want something that's well made with characters you care about,
Speaker 1: don't watch Venom. Do you want to watch something that's
Speaker 1: trash and that brings you back to the nineties and
Speaker 1: makes you think, like a man, this is like Mortal
Speaker 1: Kombat the movie, Go see Venom. But again, if you
Speaker 1: want to care, don't do that thing. Um. But so
Speaker 1: when I found out about the Buffy for um that
Speaker 1: was coming out for the WB at the time, I
Speaker 1: didn't take it seriously because I was like, Oh, they
Speaker 1: took this thing that was one of my hot, garbage
Speaker 1: favorite movies, and now they're making it too serious. Because
Speaker 1: when you looked at the promos, they were plugging it
Speaker 1: as though it was something that was very serious. They weren't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they weren't really honing in on the humor unless you
Speaker 1: watched it. I think because of the reception that the
Speaker 1: original Buffy got because there were a lot of jokes
Speaker 1: that didn't land. And as we know about Josh Weeden
Speaker 1: as evidenced by my wife Holly Berry in X Men,
Speaker 1: you either get his weird ass dialogue or you don't get.
Speaker 1: If you don't get it, it doesn't land. And maybe
Speaker 1: it serves you to ask, Maybe it serves you. Um,
Speaker 1: And they've done a lot of talk about how Sarah
Speaker 1: Michelle Gellar asked a lot about his weird yet. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that in the in the episodes,
Speaker 1: but it didn't do that and he moved on with
Speaker 1: his life. Uh and then um, then sand Dollar Television
Speaker 1: executive GAYL Berman actually approached Weeden with the plan to
Speaker 1: bring Buffy to the TV. So I guess it did.
Speaker 1: It didn't do well, But like the concept of the
Speaker 1: idea of having this because at the time too, they
Speaker 1: were talking about like girl power and the Spice Girls
Speaker 1: were really big at that time, so they definitely didn't
Speaker 1: have I feel like a female superhero protagonist, right, And
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what was happening at CW at
Speaker 1: the time, But there were other shows like Popular, There
Speaker 1: were a lot W sorry w B. There were other
Speaker 1: shows like Popular and things that were very female driven,
Speaker 1: and so I think they were specifically looking for something
Speaker 1: that was female driven. This was also during the time
Speaker 1: of um what I like to call the Outdoor Walk Around.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have a better name, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: the Zena's, the Hercules, the the They did that reboot
Speaker 1: of Robin Hood would start the guy that played Will
Speaker 1: and Robin Hood men in tights and it was weird
Speaker 1: but hot. So this was happening at the point where
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, yeah, it's all of these people
Speaker 1: just like walking and not watching the underwear and fighting
Speaker 1: bad guys and then walking to the next place where
Speaker 1: they can't watch the underwear. And so they also they
Speaker 1: even did um A live and part of that was
Speaker 1: also helped because everything is kind of cyclical. What by
Speaker 1: what was happening with the Power Rangers. They did a
Speaker 1: reboot of Teenage Turtles at the time, which added a
Speaker 1: woman turtle named Venus de Milo. When everyone was like,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was a beautiful time because things like
Speaker 1: that could happen and twit and didn't didn't exist. People
Speaker 1: were complaining about it on news groups. Yeah, no one
Speaker 1: ever saw it. Yeah, we got to live life. We
Speaker 1: have to live our lives and not be like what
Speaker 1: vetus think. Big enough titties. Why don't I want to turtle? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can say here right, No, it's gonna get Why
Speaker 1: don't I want to gently hug that turtle for five minutes?
Speaker 1: Still believe that? So? Yes, horizontally, NBC passed on the
Speaker 1: idea of Buffy, so did Fox. But the w B,
Speaker 1: which you had stated, which was actually only two years
Speaker 1: old at the time, did want to them to do
Speaker 1: a presentation. So they started casting, and they came across
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old Sarah Michelle Geller, who was already
Speaker 1: an Emmy Award winner. For all my children, yeah, so
Speaker 1: and all my children. I believe I'm not mistaken because
Speaker 1: I was watching it at that time. I was in college.
Speaker 1: I have nothing better to do, and I have cable,
Speaker 1: so I was watching a lot of soap operas when
Speaker 1: I would come home from different things, and she was
Speaker 1: playing a character who I believe was twenty four years old,
Speaker 1: like she was playing and making it. It's fine. It's weird,
Speaker 1: but it's fine. But I think her an angel like
Speaker 1: that was you know, it's not as bad as the
Speaker 1: movie teen, which okay, but it's still pretty not great.
Speaker 1: But so I remember when she came on because one
Speaker 1: of the big deals was that she was a teenager
Speaker 1: that was able to play someone so much older. And
Speaker 1: I remember Sarah Michelle Geller, oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: me um aging my from a show called Swan's Crossing
Speaker 1: that was um a show that came out during a
Speaker 1: summer of a year. I want to say it was
Speaker 1: two or ninety three, and it was about a bunch
Speaker 1: of kids because essentially what people learned about those summer
Speaker 1: episodes of a Nino two and No or of a
Speaker 1: UM Saved by the Bell was that you could do
Speaker 1: summer episodes of something and people would be watching because
Speaker 1: there's nothing else there, and teams are watching. And so
Speaker 1: Swan's Crossing, to quote something my stepfather would say, this
Speaker 1: m had everything. It had um evil twins, a band
Speaker 1: that might not be a good band. It had Sarah
Speaker 1: Michelle Geller with her first nose at not shaming, just
Speaker 1: true um as a social light who was like the
Speaker 1: hot popular one that was trying to get to I
Speaker 1: believe his name was Shane McDermott and he only went
Speaker 1: on to make a skateboard move. And at the end
Speaker 1: of it, it turned out that the Black nerd and
Speaker 1: I thank god the Asian nerd, huh. At the end
Speaker 1: of it, they discovered a new kind of rocket or
Speaker 1: rocket fuel and the government came to shut the town down.
Speaker 1: That's how it ended. So it also had these elements
Speaker 1: of like weird sci fi and like spy stuff, which
Speaker 1: I didn't know at the time, but that's my wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: I watched every episode. I was a cheerleader for on
Speaker 1: base cheerleading because I was I grew up as a
Speaker 1: military kid, um, and I was with a bunch of
Speaker 1: the other twelve year olds. But I looked like I
Speaker 1: look now, and so I was like, I gotta my
Speaker 1: uniform fits different. I feel I feel weird, and so
Speaker 1: I quit. And I really got into the show. And
Speaker 1: everyone's like, well, Danielle quit because she really hated cheerleading
Speaker 1: and wanted to watch the show. I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: quit because I look like your mom and it's like upsetting.
Speaker 1: I would love for you, like if you meet Sarah
Speaker 1: Michelle Geller, which we can work out because Mark's really
Speaker 1: good friends with Freddie. Um. Yeah, and I want to
Speaker 1: meet Freddy because Freddy used to write for w W
Speaker 1: E I Girl. When Mark and I were dating, there
Speaker 1: were so many nights when they would have like game nights,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just need a kid. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna have a game night like a couple's night?
Speaker 1: Can we go over? And then now I'm not dating them,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter, but I can still maybe squeeze
Speaker 1: in there. What I was gonna say is, I would
Speaker 1: love if you met Sarah Michelle Gellar to be like
Speaker 1: I loved you and Swan's crossing, like, don't bring up
Speaker 1: probably because I don't bring up anything she's done since then,
Speaker 1: So that's trash. Danielle, I love it, No, do it?
Speaker 1: I mean she might like it. Um, I think she'd laugh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she So she auditioned for the role of Actually,
Speaker 1: she first audition for Cordelia Chase before eventually being cast
Speaker 1: as Buffy. This is in quotes from the casting director
Speaker 1: Marcia Shulman. At the time, we were all trying to
Speaker 1: find our way to make the show something its own
Speaker 1: thing apart from the film. We didn't think of Sarah
Speaker 1: as Buffy because we thought she was too smart. It's
Speaker 1: not crazy. She was too smart and too grounded and
Speaker 1: not enough of a misfit in a sense. Because Buffy
Speaker 1: was this outsider. How could Sarah be an outsider? She's
Speaker 1: so lovely. So he brought her in as Cordelia and
Speaker 1: she was fantastic as Cordelia. Then we went to the network.
Speaker 1: They knew that Sarah was a star from her previous
Speaker 1: work and that she could be Buffy and that we
Speaker 1: could do that Buffy. I mean, and this is such
Speaker 1: a great insight into how Hollywood works, just assuming who
Speaker 1: can be smart you can't, well, assuming there's there was
Speaker 1: so much that went on first off, the casting choice
Speaker 1: that they're like, all right, well, this is how we
Speaker 1: feel that she's betrayed, and then networks like, no, she's
Speaker 1: going to play the main character because she's a name,
Speaker 1: so so so that that's something to go in a
Speaker 1: pilot season. Remembering when you're auditioning for Lee's that you
Speaker 1: know all it takes is one, uh, one name to
Speaker 1: come to bump your whole life off of a list. Look,
Speaker 1: this is why we missed soap operas because there used
Speaker 1: to be so many of them, and they used to
Speaker 1: cast anyone that was hot. Yeah, and now that job
Speaker 1: goes to when I was at New York Comic Con.
Speaker 1: It was so funny because there would be like just
Speaker 1: it would be a hot young person and people would
Speaker 1: be screaming, like line to people, just screaming waiting for
Speaker 1: them outside of our little green room. And uh, I
Speaker 1: remember one of the artists that was with me was like,
Speaker 1: who is it. I'm like, probably from the c W.
Speaker 1: And then and now every time they saw a hot
Speaker 1: because it kept happening, like anytime there was a hot
Speaker 1: young person, they're like, it's from the cwe probably any hot,
Speaker 1: any hot, Yeah, yeah, they're from the CW. They're acting skills,
Speaker 1: can be whatever, but they certainly are hot and unthreatening.
Speaker 1: The world is so weird, like that whole screaming thing.
Speaker 1: Like I remember when I went with Echo to the
Speaker 1: e W Stack party and they had just that weird
Speaker 1: line of people who I still think are paid to
Speaker 1: like stand in front of the think they're not they're fans.
Speaker 1: So they came and I was with Um. I drove
Speaker 1: because I'm a dork and not a rich dude who
Speaker 1: was going to pay for an uber X to this
Speaker 1: Hollywood party, and so I was given Echo and then
Speaker 1: our friend Amber Stevens West a ride and at the
Speaker 1: time Amber was in Ghosted Echo is Mr Terrific. So
Speaker 1: they had all these people snapping pictures and it was
Speaker 1: funny to see someone like they looked at me, they
Speaker 1: squinted and then just took a picture. Just Oh, maybe
Speaker 1: he'll be the hot man I'm in love with next season.
Speaker 1: But he's not the hot one. I'm in love with
Speaker 1: this who you are, but you might be somebody well
Speaker 1: and that was what was so slight. But so when
Speaker 1: um they did the first crossover between Supergirl, which at
Speaker 1: the time was an ABC and then The Flash, which
Speaker 1: is at c W, one of the jokes that they
Speaker 1: had someone make was you all look like the ethnically diverse, um,
Speaker 1: you know, attractive but assuming cast of a c W show.
Speaker 1: Love it. I love when they're self aware. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: ABC they stopped making those jokes since an They're like,
Speaker 1: we're cutting it. Those job did now that you're at
Speaker 1: the W. So Sarah Michelle Gellar said that she watched
Speaker 1: the original movie to prepare for the role and that
Speaker 1: that's actually not what they wanted at all, So she
Speaker 1: had to come back. She said, and I quote quite
Speaker 1: a few more times to audition for Buffy before she
Speaker 1: got it. And this is literally in fact, Buffy actually
Speaker 1: didn't get picked up by Warner Brothers after their presentation.
Speaker 1: So they did this whole thing. They cast it, they
Speaker 1: shot a pilot or yeah, did a pilot presentation for them,
Speaker 1: and one of the producers were saying that they looked
Speaker 1: at what they did pick up and they picked up
Speaker 1: Seventh Heaven instead. Very different, so very different. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks like they did. But then four months later they
Speaker 1: finally picked up Buffy the Vampires later. Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: it premiered in March ten. I'm not going to tell
Speaker 1: you how long it's been since we were born at
Speaker 1: that time because that's too much math for me. But
Speaker 1: just know if I was better at math, you would here.
Speaker 1: But it ran for a minute because it started and
Speaker 1: ended ten days after the launch in two thousand and
Speaker 1: three on up N Big Jump. Usually that the up
Speaker 1: N was where the uh where shows went to die,
Speaker 1: also where all the black shows were, which is why
Speaker 1: you people network what they used to be. My mom
Speaker 1: called it the underpaid Negroes. Oh your mom, the nice
Speaker 1: version of you people network. Yeah, but yeah, so U
Speaker 1: p N but they had the hits. That's where we
Speaker 1: had to go to watch all I think hits. I
Speaker 1: mean they had shows that I enjoyed, but they they
Speaker 1: were not hits. Whatever they know because in blind Items,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about even the CW, it's still like
Speaker 1: barely network when they talk about it, And so if
Speaker 1: you're going back looking at up N, it's probably like,
Speaker 1: well they network had um what was it? Was it
Speaker 1: half and half? Or stepped by the one with Kyla
Speaker 1: Prette and her dad flex Flex williams oh Flex Remember whence? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a strong The series depicts Buffy Summers, a
Speaker 1: student at Sunnydale High School who is called to battle
Speaker 1: against vampires, demons, and other forces of the darkness. The
Speaker 1: ladies in the line of young women known as the
Speaker 1: Vampire Slayers are simply slayers in the story. Slayers are
Speaker 1: chosen by Fate, and Buffy is the newest in the line.
Speaker 1: But Buffy wants to live a normal life, kind of
Speaker 1: like Spider Man. But as the series, it's so funny
Speaker 1: because we do need that. That's what I like about
Speaker 1: Miles is like, I feel like every early superhero that
Speaker 1: was a team who was like I just want to
Speaker 1: do high school, and I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about if I had superpowers like piece out.
Speaker 1: That's why I like Invincible so much, because he's like,
Speaker 1: let's go. This is what I've always can't y'all just
Speaker 1: tutor me. That's what they do want. Yeah, look, I
Speaker 1: gotta safe you. I ain't got time to learn. Uh
Speaker 1: but yeah. So as the series progresses, she learns to
Speaker 1: embrace her destiny, and like previous Slayers, Buffy is aided
Speaker 1: by a Watcher who guides and teaches and trains her.
Speaker 1: And unlike her predecessors, Buffy surrounds herself with a circle
Speaker 1: of loyal friends who become known as the Scooby Gang.
Speaker 1: I like that reference. Yeah, that's what happens when you
Speaker 1: get to be on a w B base net. Who
Speaker 1: cares you'll be canceled. It doesn't matter because nothing had
Speaker 1: a chance of existing. Um, well, they own Scooby Doo,
Speaker 1: so they can make that. Yeah, but even if they didn't,
Speaker 1: no one cares. Because the DC shows make references to
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff all the time. At w B.
Speaker 1: I really don't think that that rule is that big
Speaker 1: of a deal. Like, you get all these shows that
Speaker 1: that with the three of us, do they always like
Speaker 1: no logos when we're shooting something. I'm like, trust me,
Speaker 1: they don't care like they like that you're promoting their stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If anything, you say no logos because you don't want
Speaker 1: us to give someone for promo, even though that's what
Speaker 1: we're talking about, right, It's like, oh no, but if
Speaker 1: you're wearing it and then you say that you like it,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, well I paid for this
Speaker 1: threat shirt, I must love it. Yeah. Also I want
Speaker 1: them to send me more of this for free. Do
Speaker 1: the thing those ten thousand subscribers. Um. But yeah. One
Speaker 1: of the interesting things was that the Willow Rosenberg character
Speaker 1: was recast in the pilots UM. So she was originally
Speaker 1: played and you can find those online, but she was
Speaker 1: originally played by someone who was somehow even more like
Speaker 1: nerdy and unrealistic and chubbs and gorgeous thick with two cs. Um.
Speaker 1: That actress is like twenty I can say that, but
Speaker 1: thick with two cs. And the network was like, you
Speaker 1: have to pare that down. So even then Josh paired
Speaker 1: it down for when they brought Alison Rosenberg in UM
Speaker 1: and then pared it down again because she was Alison Hannigan, Sorry,
Speaker 1: Alison Hannigan House and Rosenberg. Alison Hannigan, I was mixing
Speaker 1: Willow Rosenberg because she'll always be blowed to me. Leep
Speaker 1: you how I met your mother? So she um. They
Speaker 1: toned her down for the pilot and then toned her
Speaker 1: down again because they were like, where did you go
Speaker 1: to school? And he was like England and they were like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work in California. Kids don't dress that way,
Speaker 1: and also your forty Yeah. Yeah, So they brought in
Speaker 1: Alison Hannigan and she ended up being Willow Rosenberg. Who
Speaker 1: is her Buffy's best friend or one of her best friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's her and Xander. And then later more so they
Speaker 1: re shot the pilot again with her in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like all the scenes obviously, the scenes that were shot
Speaker 1: were shot and you keep them, but anything that had
Speaker 1: to be with Willow they wound up shooting. Because you
Speaker 1: remember in the New Girl pilot they just brought they
Speaker 1: whitched out, switched it out, and they referenced it in
Speaker 1: the episode two, but they didn't change it. They so
Speaker 1: so and yeah, so what's the character's name? Starts with
Speaker 1: a w because David Waynes was in JR. Was he was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was in the show. Yeah, he was in the
Speaker 1: original pilot. Was in the pilot. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They kept him in the pilot, and then when he
Speaker 1: wasn't in the show, they kept referencing that they and
Speaker 1: they brought him back, and they brought him back because
Speaker 1: they loved him, and he can't stop working and not
Speaker 1: so good. Come on, it's seen happy endings. All of
Speaker 1: those happy endings. People are so good. And they ruined
Speaker 1: all of my shows for a season because after it
Speaker 1: was got canceled, everyone wanted to give them work. And
Speaker 1: so suddenly you have him there, you have Alan Patty
Speaker 1: or Alan right, you have what's his name who goes
Speaker 1: over to Mindy Project. Um, you have people who suddenly
Speaker 1: start showing up in all of these shows I love
Speaker 1: because people love the show so much. They were giving
Speaker 1: everyone work, which like great for them, but like, just
Speaker 1: give them another show chemistry of my show. Just keep
Speaker 1: happy endings. I run into him. He's at UCB Functions
Speaker 1: because from yeah, we are actually going to run into
Speaker 1: the characters right after the breaks, we are back and
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about some of our favorite Buffet
Speaker 1: Vampire Slayer characters. So yeah, So Willow Rosenberg was played
Speaker 1: by Alison Hannigan and she actually said that she blew
Speaker 1: her audition. She she was like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: they wanted her nerdy And Jos said that a lot
Speaker 1: of the people that came in their idea of nerdy
Speaker 1: was like, you know, glasses and like being like a
Speaker 1: stereotypical nerd, and she just came in and was herself
Speaker 1: and that's what I Yeah, we know here the Pope
Speaker 1: didn't know. They weren't ready for I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like no still to this day. Every time I go
Speaker 1: on to an audition and I'm typecast as a nerd
Speaker 1: and you'll see all these actors like chiseled face, big glasses,
Speaker 1: I'm like, first off, get these glasses posers out of here,
Speaker 1: only real glasses on. Second off, some of us can't
Speaker 1: help our chiseled faces. For for example, chee cheekbones. I
Speaker 1: can't help my jaw. Okay. I I walked into audition
Speaker 1: for The Welcome It's called The Neighborhood Now went through
Speaker 1: so many name changes, but Marcel Spears part audition for
Speaker 1: I got a call back. I did pretty okay. I
Speaker 1: never I knew from the jump it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to get roles like that because I can play a nerd,
Speaker 1: but I'm also six one and so it just always
Speaker 1: you like they'll laugh and then they'll look and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bro, but you want to be like you
Speaker 1: want me to talk about Dragon Ball zo, you rip
Speaker 1: your shirt off your chest and tattooed on you. Gosh.
Speaker 1: So then but I went in and I was in there,
Speaker 1: and I it was like a nerdy engineer character, and
Speaker 1: I just kind of came as myself, just in a
Speaker 1: button up just because they did want like a little
Speaker 1: on the cartoon side. But I didn't want to go
Speaker 1: too hard because but this also is the same guy
Speaker 1: who did Big Bang Theory. So I was like, just
Speaker 1: be a little dressed up and uh. And I went
Speaker 1: in and the way some of these actors were dressed
Speaker 1: was offensive to me because because like the character. When
Speaker 1: I read it, I was like, oh, this is kind
Speaker 1: of like me. It's just me if I was an engineer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they probably just researched black nerd and like you showed
Speaker 1: up like if he lifts, so I can probably get
Speaker 1: away with one Fannie Pack. God, that's so true. Sorry, babe.
Speaker 1: So Willow Willow. As the series progressed, Willow became a
Speaker 1: more sort of and even sensual character. I didn't write this.
Speaker 1: Um In particular, she realized that she was a lesbian
Speaker 1: and became a powerful, wicked Holy crap, those are two
Speaker 1: amazing things combined. They happened at the same time. That's
Speaker 1: the way did that do? Yeah? The way, that's how
Speaker 1: it happens in real life? Like incense BP yep um,
Speaker 1: Willow is uh, well, it makes sense because because cats
Speaker 1: and which is the kitties, so many kitties and there
Speaker 1: are and they did have a kitty for a while,
Speaker 1: and then there were just so many good moments of
Speaker 1: doing magic and Willows Buffy's best friend through everything, and yeah,
Speaker 1: and originally she was super into Xander and then you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Xander. So Xander is also Buffy's best friend, trying
Speaker 1: goals with best friends. Yeah, Zander was basically even though
Speaker 1: this predates Avatar, but just to keep you know, random
Speaker 1: Avatar pop quiz, Xanda was like the soccer of the group. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Xander. Xander evolves into being something great. Xander's
Speaker 1: and in Cell, He's definitely like that that first season.
Speaker 1: My dude, I know I'm going to get some hate.
Speaker 1: Remember that. I love the series, but the first couple
Speaker 1: of episodes, Xander's definitely like, well, why doesn't she like
Speaker 1: he was a virgin? For yeah, because there wasn't wasn't
Speaker 1: there a thing where they needed a virgin? And one
Speaker 1: of his one of his divining characteristics, which is something
Speaker 1: I loved about the show, was that he was such
Speaker 1: this like nerdy in cell like stereotype, but every time
Speaker 1: a hot monster woman came into town, there like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get that, you know it. Here's the thing though,
Speaker 1: that's like my type, not in use, but like the nerdy,
Speaker 1: unsuspecting and well and it's always a man eater. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because they don't chase at like they're too they're shine.
Speaker 1: You just want to dominate them. Anyways, moving on, do
Speaker 1: we have to Yes, we definitely do. Um Angel, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got our man Angel, a character so good and
Speaker 1: I guess he needed his own show. It's those cheekbones. Look,
Speaker 1: I look, I get it. I get it. With Angel,
Speaker 1: he's very like, oh, I've got more eyebrow than a
Speaker 1: person needs show type. Yeah. See, and he's like tall
Speaker 1: for TV. I don't know how tall he is in
Speaker 1: real life. Everyone disappoints me. Um, he's like five eight
Speaker 1: tall for TV, though you would be. I am amazed
Speaker 1: by how tall I am. Yeah, I'm not. I'm five
Speaker 1: four and I'm not. I'm not strong men unite, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I like guys that are around my my I like
Speaker 1: guys of all all heights, but I'm not. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying a lot of people out here, which you
Speaker 1: all don't know. I'm not saying five. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that's like like when we say tall, that's tall for
Speaker 1: an actor, because a lot of actor I'm five four
Speaker 1: and a lot of actors are around my height, and
Speaker 1: they wind up doing a lot of tricks to make
Speaker 1: people work they are, which obvious. I mean when you're
Speaker 1: dealing with Michelle Geller, who I don't know this one
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, and it feels creepy
Speaker 1: that I would She's like, what five one maybe, but
Speaker 1: she she real tiny, so it's very easy to be
Speaker 1: very tall around her. Um. But yeah, so you have
Speaker 1: angel who plays um Angelus, who is a one hundred
Speaker 1: and I want to say, fifty year old vampire Um
Speaker 1: used to be a complete pos Irish pos um with
Speaker 1: an interesting Irish accent. It sounds like me doing an
Speaker 1: Irish accent where sometimes just slides into Jamaican. It's fine
Speaker 1: and like a bad curly wig. And he's like dealing
Speaker 1: with some gambling debt or something and then uh, some
Speaker 1: some hot vampiruses find him and are like that one,
Speaker 1: and it's like why, but then he becomes really hot
Speaker 1: and evil and so yeah, any and he hooks up
Speaker 1: with with our lady. Yeah yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: So he becomes um his soul. This is so much.
Speaker 1: I love nerdy stuff. It's so much. So he like
Speaker 1: eats and sleeps over the like golden child of this
Speaker 1: gypsy clan I know. And the clan is like, oh no, Romani,
Speaker 1: thank you. But in but in the show they use
Speaker 1: the really compensive yikes. Also, if y'all don't know to
Speaker 1: not say jip, don't say jip. It's not a good word.
Speaker 1: And so the clan is like, oh, well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: punish you the worst way we know how. And what
Speaker 1: they do is so when vampires like you die and
Speaker 1: your body is inhabited by this other thing which is you,
Speaker 1: but isn't you because it doesn't have a soul. So
Speaker 1: an angel becomes the first vampire with a soul, and
Speaker 1: they throw the soul up in him to punish him,
Speaker 1: and they're like, you're gonna like have a soul now
Speaker 1: and have a conscience, and you're gonna hate everything you've
Speaker 1: ever done, and then only during your happiest moment ever
Speaker 1: are you going to go back to not having a
Speaker 1: soul and being angelists. But until then you're gonna be
Speaker 1: like this really sad, trench cut wearing dude, and there's
Speaker 1: nothing we can That's pretty much it. By the way,
Speaker 1: he is a six one, so he is quite actually tall.
Speaker 1: Oh look at him and Sarah Michelle Geller at five,
Speaker 1: so we're the same high nine. Actually, that's yeah, the
Speaker 1: cast director said. The breakdown said, the most gorgeous, mysterious, fantastic,
Speaker 1: the most incredible man on the face of the earth.
Speaker 1: I think I saw every guy in town. It was
Speaker 1: a day before shooting and a friend of mine called
Speaker 1: me and said, you know, there's this guy that lives
Speaker 1: on my street who walks his dog every day, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what he does, but he has all
Speaker 1: those things you're describing. Can you believe that? So everyone
Speaker 1: signed up for WAG so that you can be discovered
Speaker 1: being I guess that works. And the minute he walked
Speaker 1: in the room, I wrote down in my notes, this
Speaker 1: is the guy. You didn't even hear him speak even here,
Speaker 1: just like he hot and look I like David. He
Speaker 1: was not good at the speaking for the entire first
Speaker 1: season of the show. If you look at the first
Speaker 1: couple of episodes, it's like, oh, class, this is so funny.
Speaker 1: This is what Weeden said. He wasn't sold on him
Speaker 1: in quote he wasn't exactly my type. Well first of all,
Speaker 1: and secondly, yeah, he was not good at the acting.
Speaker 1: He got there and he's obviously great now and he's
Speaker 1: obviously It's like going back and watching old Brad Pitt
Speaker 1: where you're like, we all start somewhere. I think, God,
Speaker 1: you're pretty Yeah, we all didn't start somewhere. It is
Speaker 1: funny because like I definitely went in made sure I
Speaker 1: looked up like nineties David Boreanis and it is like
Speaker 1: nineties hot, Like this is like peak, Like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because like when I heard that, I was like, a,
Speaker 1: ain't all that, But then like looking I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah back then this is this was it for everyone,
Speaker 1: like that strong nose Ridge and Freddie kind of like
Speaker 1: decent forehead Freddie Prince Jr. Um. Yeah. So then up
Speaker 1: next we have Giles. We have Rupert Giles, um and
Speaker 1: and Giles is obviously amazing. Um. He is an actor.
Speaker 1: He's a veteran British actor. You can see him in
Speaker 1: like a million episodes of Anything British on the BBC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but who was he in this series? So so Rupert
Speaker 1: Giles is Buffies mentor who has to go undercover as
Speaker 1: a librarian. Um, which sounds really weird. We don't know
Speaker 1: what to he has and from England and passed a
Speaker 1: background check. There you go. Um. Cordelia Chase. Cordelia Chase
Speaker 1: is the She starts off as the stereotypical kind of
Speaker 1: mean girl who was the lead of all of the
Speaker 1: Terrible Popular Girls, but throughout this series and then later
Speaker 1: throughout Angel, she becomes a very empathetic and charismatic figure
Speaker 1: and we actually really really fall in love with Cordelia.
Speaker 1: Oz Oz is played by Seth Green. He is there.
Speaker 1: He has a band, they suck, and he falls in
Speaker 1: love with Willow because he sees her in an Eskimo costume. Um,
Speaker 1: which is actually kind of really cute because he always
Speaker 1: loved her for an intelligence and everyone else made fun
Speaker 1: of her. And then um he got bit by like
Speaker 1: his nephew who turns out was a werewolf. And then
Speaker 1: Oz became a werewolf and had a weird werewolf affair
Speaker 1: and had to leave the show. God that was like
Speaker 1: peak Seth Green time too well, he had to go
Speaker 1: do you had to do without a ball? We had
Speaker 1: an Ozz Empowers I think by the time that he
Speaker 1: was cast in this, and they also had Can't Hardly Wait?
Speaker 1: Was the teen movie that I knew it was like
Speaker 1: the Yeah, it would essentially be the equivalent of everyone
Speaker 1: on the CW doing a movie together. Uh. Spike. Spike
Speaker 1: was originally a dude called William the Bloody, and he
Speaker 1: also like he so he was called Willing the Bloody
Speaker 1: because his poetry was bloody awful and he used to
Speaker 1: be like super in love with women. And he found
Speaker 1: like Angelus's gang in Cordelia and they like turned him
Speaker 1: into a vampire and then all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: was like I'm billy oidel mate Um in the seventies
Speaker 1: and then I'm so good an accents um. And then
Speaker 1: he winds up obviously going against Buffy and the gang,
Speaker 1: and then he winds up falling in love with Buffy
Speaker 1: and they had this weird, controversial relationship. It was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very spicy, Umilla. It was with Spike. So
Speaker 1: Drusilla um. And I'm sorry I keep saying Cordelia when
Speaker 1: I think I mean Drusilla um. So. Drusilla was again
Speaker 1: like a sweet, innocent person who was found by Angelus
Speaker 1: and he was like, I'm just gonna find the sweetest
Speaker 1: person in town, and I'm a Turner, super evil and
Speaker 1: then he did, and it gave her psychic powers. We
Speaker 1: don't know why, we don't know why, and her and
Speaker 1: Spike were together for forever and then um, she started banging.
Speaker 1: I think it was like a chaos demon and they
Speaker 1: broke up when she came back a few times after that,
Speaker 1: Cordia was, you know, her whole job was to be
Speaker 1: manic pixie vampire girl, manic pixie goth girl. And I
Speaker 1: do think I've said Cordelia a couple of times from
Speaker 1: Drucilia that's fine, that's fine. Uh yeah, so those are
Speaker 1: the main I mean, there's so many characters and also
Speaker 1: like cameos from other celebrities, and just too many to
Speaker 1: get through. The helm off is uh something I you
Speaker 1: hear so much, So I'm excited that we're talking about it.
Speaker 1: And they mentioned the hell mouth so much in this
Speaker 1: show and then it doesn't open til the end, right, Well,
Speaker 1: the idea about the hell mouth, I just I will
Speaker 1: actually do I am a piece of ship, he asked,
Speaker 1: I just want wow. So I think about the hell mouth?
Speaker 1: Is it only actually really opens is like a canyon
Speaker 1: as a mouth one or two times? What it really
Speaker 1: is is that the fabric but that separates our world
Speaker 1: from demon world. There are a couple of areas on
Speaker 1: the planet where it's the weakest, and so in those
Speaker 1: areas where it's the weakest, you're more likely to see
Speaker 1: you know, more demons, more vampires, more weird demonic stuff.
Speaker 1: And Sunny Dale lives on a hell mouth. We also
Speaker 1: know that there's a hell mouth in Cleveland, Ohio. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember if I can think of anywhere else
Speaker 1: they've joked about their being helm outs. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's just the idea that you know, if you have,
Speaker 1: it's like a fault line for evil if you put
Speaker 1: it that you know and some convenient right, and some
Speaker 1: places are on the fault line, and some places are
Speaker 1: closer to where it could be dangerous. And so really
Speaker 1: the last episode of the series is where it gets like,
Speaker 1: oh crap, this is a physical thing, whereas I feel
Speaker 1: like usually it's more of a because I ain't gotta budget. Um,
Speaker 1: it's more of a like, oh, this is a week
Speaker 1: opening for metaphorical Yeah, wow, well you explained everything in
Speaker 1: the docks, so uh, but just for just for the
Speaker 1: b heads, which is my nickname for Buffy heads. Uh.
Speaker 1: The hell Mouth is first mentioned by name in The Harvest,
Speaker 1: the second episode of Buffy, while Rupert Giles claims that
Speaker 1: the original Spanish settlers of Sunnydale called the area PoCA
Speaker 1: del in pierre No, which Giles then translates to hell
Speaker 1: mouth in English, which sounds like it was Spanish written
Speaker 1: by a white person. That's exactly what whenever through Google
Speaker 1: Translate or whatever, because it's so funny, because like when
Speaker 1: you hear like names of things in Spanish, it's never
Speaker 1: like a like beat for beat English telling because it's
Speaker 1: like mouth of of the inferno. Because that's how other
Speaker 1: languages work. Every romantic language works that way. We're the
Speaker 1: only ones that work the way that we work, where
Speaker 1: like the this thing goes before, the subject goes before
Speaker 1: or whatever. Usually it's like combined with a thing. Yeah, technically, okay,
Speaker 1: this isn't the language, you know, It's okay, Well, we
Speaker 1: are actually talking about language because we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: buffy speak, which was the name for what you were
Speaker 1: talking about the way that John Weeden writes. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's a lot of I mean, if you want to
Speaker 1: talk about the easy way to talk about buffy speak,
Speaker 1: take something, you know, verb, yourself a noun or now
Speaker 1: and yourself a verb, add yourself and E two an
Speaker 1: to the end of a word that isn't an e.
Speaker 1: A sentence might be if you wanted to break up
Speaker 1: with someone, say something like I feel breakup. Things like that.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what buffy speak is. It's a mixture
Speaker 1: of um I would say Valley Girl, which is what
Speaker 1: it's been kind of credited with, but also kind of
Speaker 1: some of that Dawson's Creaky to spark from my good
Speaker 1: I do it all of the times creaky, I do
Speaker 1: it all of the time. I would say due to
Speaker 1: my influences that my speech pattern is probably a weird
Speaker 1: combination of like nerd voice, which is a voice that
Speaker 1: we have which you know, it's hard to talk about
Speaker 1: in an episode, nerd voice, Buffy speak, black stuff, like
Speaker 1: that's what I sound like. Yeah, I think everyone's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and everything I've heard up until this point
Speaker 1: is confirmed. But yeah, no, it's so funny because you know,
Speaker 1: buffy speak is interesting because yeah, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of us use buffy speak, especially nerds, and I feel
Speaker 1: like people in the l A space, and I wonder
Speaker 1: if it's one of those things where like TV made
Speaker 1: people think that this is how people in l A
Speaker 1: talk in l A picked it up. I also think
Speaker 1: that it's something that influenced pop culture so much an
Speaker 1: influence are there writers so much that a lot of
Speaker 1: shows speak and Buffy speak without realizing that they're doing
Speaker 1: it or without calling attention to it. Because I found
Speaker 1: it in shows like Insecure where they've they've had a
Speaker 1: dialogue in a way where I'm like, oh, that's Buffy talk,
Speaker 1: and the same way that when you talk about that
Speaker 1: kind of West Wingie walk and talk style, and you
Speaker 1: see it everywhere now, but it's so commonplace that it's
Speaker 1: hard to go back and place it. I think it's
Speaker 1: the same thing where it's just permeated pop culture so
Speaker 1: much it's affected the way a generation of nerds talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well, let's keep keep the ball rolling and
Speaker 1: talk about the comics. Now. The comics are crazy because
Speaker 1: they're still on the stands last I checked, and they
Speaker 1: might have ended at this they're still going, still going.
Speaker 1: Um so I and I can't unfortunately remember what season
Speaker 1: we're on, but they do with the angel and with Buffy,
Speaker 1: it's like Buffy season eight, Buffy season nine, Buffy Season ten, Um,
Speaker 1: same with angel Um. There was a great comic that
Speaker 1: came out around the time of the seventh season which
Speaker 1: actually for me, which would which would help if you
Speaker 1: read it, because it explained some of the stuff in
Speaker 1: the seventh season, which was called Frey and took place
Speaker 1: hundreds of years in the future, And to me, that
Speaker 1: is my favorite Buffy comic and I recommend it to
Speaker 1: everyone because it it's really good and it's so different
Speaker 1: than when you're used to But of course they do
Speaker 1: the Buffy comics, and and they've done Spike comics and
Speaker 1: spinoff comics, and many of the writers have been you know,
Speaker 1: I think Money Knox and has written one. Amber Benson,
Speaker 1: who plays Tara, has written quite a few, and then
Speaker 1: other people have just also done them. And they're supposed
Speaker 1: to be continuations of the plot, but doing things at
Speaker 1: the plot couldn't do because of monetary restrictions, because of shooting.
Speaker 1: So then sometimes it gets a little isn't that insane?
Speaker 1: They when I was looking it up, they did have
Speaker 1: like they didn't really have a but or else they
Speaker 1: spent their budget on their cast because jos was talking
Speaker 1: about how a lot of their stuff was shot in
Speaker 1: a warehouse and a lot of their a lot of
Speaker 1: their hallway like high school stuff was shot in the
Speaker 1: same part music. It's kind of sad actually, like it
Speaker 1: was just the same background like every time. Yeah, very
Speaker 1: much like a Doctor Who, where it's like we know
Speaker 1: that what makes the show work is the chemics stry
Speaker 1: between the actors and yeah, and so what we're going
Speaker 1: to focus on that because we can't focus on big
Speaker 1: We're not Michael Bay, we don't have Michael Bay money.
Speaker 1: We can't focus so they'll say if they're huge set
Speaker 1: pieces for when it's really important, if a giant snake
Speaker 1: is going to come and eat a bunch of people,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a season finale that could possibly be
Speaker 1: a series finale, um, because they just don't have the
Speaker 1: money for anything else. Yeah, and and it is fascinating
Speaker 1: because yeah, they had a lot of costumes and masks
Speaker 1: and makeup and stuff like that, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: it seemed like a lot of people were tuning in
Speaker 1: for the relationships and like it kind of turned very
Speaker 1: soap operating. I think that Buffy is what's set the
Speaker 1: stage for these new especially the d C EU that
Speaker 1: you have UM or the the d C C w UM.
Speaker 1: Buffy is the template for that. Get a but get
Speaker 1: seven people, give them all drama and then have you know,
Speaker 1: a season long arc with a monster of the season
Speaker 1: and then episode Monster of the weeks, but really focus
Speaker 1: on the relationships between the people because that's cheaper and
Speaker 1: also brings people back nice. All right, Well, I thought
Speaker 1: about this a bunch because and I'm trying to do
Speaker 1: them knowing I won't have a budget. All right, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump into some of our favorite episodes because
Speaker 1: this series very long and we can't just do a
Speaker 1: beat by beat, but this will be a great place
Speaker 1: to start and things to check out or some like
Speaker 1: moments if you're a Buffy fan and we're about to
Speaker 1: do that after these messages dumb bum bum boom, Hey,
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Speaker 1: and we're talking Buffy the Bamfires say please keep that
Speaker 1: in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Articulate articulate, man, you know
Speaker 1: you've worked. Articulate agility is a marvelous ability, the tongue,
Speaker 1: to teeth, the lips. Articulate agility is a mark. I
Speaker 1: don't think people realize that we record these like late
Speaker 1: at night and all of us have been talking literally
Speaker 1: all yeah, that's our job. So we come in here.
Speaker 1: Except I'm sorry. I got really excited because today was
Speaker 1: a day when I've I've been doing the right with
Speaker 1: my hands. This is the first time I've actually talked
Speaker 1: to people, which I think is why I'm so like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's your favorite thing. Yeah, it's one
Speaker 1: of your favorite things. But yeah, we're going to kick it.
Speaker 1: Off with hush because, uh, look, I'll be the first
Speaker 1: to say my my Buffy knowledge is very, very sparse.
Speaker 1: I wasn't watching Buffy at this time. I think I
Speaker 1: was busy watching what was that weird X Men show
Speaker 1: that was on the WB that Mutant next like that.
Speaker 1: I was trying to Yeah, I was too busy playing
Speaker 1: Ruinescape to really get into this. But this episode I
Speaker 1: did see and it almost got me to start watching
Speaker 1: the show, but I had to get them RuneScape dollars
Speaker 1: and it was hush uh. And I think what was
Speaker 1: cool about it was it blew me away, um because
Speaker 1: it was scary and interesting and just different. Uh. This
Speaker 1: was the episode when they were going to be I U.
Speaker 1: They were invaded by these like weird dudes who like
Speaker 1: sucked out people's gentleman, the gentleman, and it was was
Speaker 1: when what did this air? Was it? It felt like
Speaker 1: it was a Halloween episode, but I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: it was. Oh no, no, because they did a Halloween
Speaker 1: They did a Halloween episode that year. This happened in
Speaker 1: season four, their tenth episode, because they did a Halloween
Speaker 1: episode that year, and that was another one that examined
Speaker 1: how on you Yeah, the Gentleman. The Gentleman, which were
Speaker 1: creepy villains essentially like came to Sunnydale and they stole
Speaker 1: the residents voices so that no one could scream. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. And one of them was the
Speaker 1: dude that plays Mac tonight and was also the fish
Speaker 1: in the Fish movie where the girl loved to fish.
Speaker 1: So what it was was it aired on December and
Speaker 1: they did like almost Christmas e kind of thing with it,
Speaker 1: or am I going crazy? I don't know if it
Speaker 1: had a holiday well maybe because it was in the
Speaker 1: same way that a lot of holiday and especially Christmas
Speaker 1: movies go and the the it was really about the
Speaker 1: idea of when and Josh said this, when you stop talking,
Speaker 1: you start listening, and so the idea is about like
Speaker 1: rebuilding bonds. And one of the special things about hushes
Speaker 1: it's the first time. Um, I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: say it. By this point Angel had spun off. We
Speaker 1: were a couple of years from Firefly. They were bored
Speaker 1: and they liked the idea of having a special episode
Speaker 1: of season and Hush was the first one which was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we have maybe some license now we can really focus
Speaker 1: on something really special and so yeah and hush, there
Speaker 1: is no speaking until the end of the episode and
Speaker 1: so everyone everything had to be expressed through physicality. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me just hear this real quick, just so I
Speaker 1: can see if I'm crazy or not. This is the
Speaker 1: promo for it that I saw live on the WB
Speaker 1: and no, I'm crazy. There was no Christmas theme. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I thought it had to do with
Speaker 1: the holiday, but I think it's as it was a
Speaker 1: special episode, so it got a lot of special promo.
Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah. And Doub Jones, Doug Jones,
Speaker 1: that's who went on to be the man with the fish.
Speaker 1: But as Jamie would say, and he'd been he'd yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd been through. He'd done a ton of stuff before that.
Speaker 1: He is an amazing He was also Darth them all right,
Speaker 1: am I crazy? No? No, your podcast done? And Doug
Speaker 1: Jones is he's motion acting and that physical kind of
Speaker 1: acting is something completely different and he's a master of it.
Speaker 1: And again, can't stresses enough. He was mec tonight. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's yeah. No, he was so good in it because
Speaker 1: he was doing things in a hush with his hands
Speaker 1: that would freak me out the way he would do. Man, Well,
Speaker 1: he's just he's so tall and spindly, and he can
Speaker 1: move I am assuming every joint in his body anyway
Speaker 1: that he wants to. Oh lord, so I was like Sapien,
Speaker 1: He's done a lot of stuff. Hush was nominated for
Speaker 1: an Emmy, which is fascinating because there was only seventeen
Speaker 1: minutes of actual dialogue in it, and in a forty
Speaker 1: four minute episode. And you're right, Danielle that Joss basically
Speaker 1: said that he wanted to challenge himself because he knew
Speaker 1: that it would literally he said, I knew that I
Speaker 1: would literally have to tell the story only visually, and
Speaker 1: that would mean I couldn't fall back on tricks. I
Speaker 1: wanted to do something harder. Yeah, like dialogue, which is
Speaker 1: very much something that he's known for. Yeah. Moving on
Speaker 1: to our other big one is The Body. I know
Speaker 1: that you like this episode a lot. It's really popular. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So The Body is an episode that takes place in
Speaker 1: season five. UM. This is the episode where UM Buffy's mom,
Speaker 1: Joyce passes away, and Joyce had actually said because she
Speaker 1: started taking more of a smaller role once Buffy went
Speaker 1: into college, as which is appropriate because she was living
Speaker 1: in the dorms would be weird if her mom was
Speaker 1: an episode every episode and she said, you know, I
Speaker 1: want to take a step back, uh, and and just
Speaker 1: said you can't leave yet because I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: And so Joyce had been battling with cancer the entire season.
Speaker 1: She had just gone on a really great date. Buffy
Speaker 1: had just had a really bad time. I believe the
Speaker 1: episode that came before that was the one where, um,
Speaker 1: there was a really crappy robot, but it was a
Speaker 1: really creepy, weird episode. And so she came home and
Speaker 1: there were these beauty, big, beautiful flowers and her mom
Speaker 1: is dead on the sofa, and so there isn't you know?
Speaker 1: This is another one where it's people dealing with this
Speaker 1: in real time. It's not about slaying the demon. It's
Speaker 1: about human emotion. And there's not a lot of music
Speaker 1: used in this episode or a lot of like background
Speaker 1: soundtrack at all. It's mostly about the actors, and it's
Speaker 1: shot very differently. Yeah, it didn't he get an Emmy
Speaker 1: at least a non for this episode. Probs. I think
Speaker 1: that all of these are the ones that that Josh loves. Yes,
Speaker 1: the next one was once More with feeling, which was
Speaker 1: my friends like favorite episode. But I was like, nothing's
Speaker 1: going top hush Man. And this is definitely when you
Speaker 1: could tell, just to bounce back to what Danielle said,
Speaker 1: they were bored, They're like, all right, let's do a
Speaker 1: musical episode. And it started um a series of people
Speaker 1: doing musical episodes after that, you started seeing that being
Speaker 1: something that could be more common. So the idea with
Speaker 1: and this is the opposite of hush, whereas with hush
Speaker 1: it's like, well, what do we say when we can't
Speaker 1: say anything? Whereas with a musical and it's always been
Speaker 1: the thing about musicals is the reason the idea that
Speaker 1: a song starts into musicals because your emotion is so
Speaker 1: big the only way you can express it is by singing.
Speaker 1: And so that's what this was. And this was during
Speaker 1: a period where you know, Buffy's friends found out, you know,
Speaker 1: that she had just went through a really hard time
Speaker 1: that they didn't know that she had known about. Um
Speaker 1: she starts really digging into one of her biggest vices
Speaker 1: of the season, which was as Bang and Spike and
Speaker 1: or at least making out with his face. And the
Speaker 1: songs on this are really fun. They're really catchy. You
Speaker 1: can find this probably depending on what size of your city,
Speaker 1: there is probably a once a month hush sing along
Speaker 1: karaoke thing. Joss has always said that he's really disappointed
Speaker 1: feeling yeah, once more, feeling sorry. Yeah, there's usually a
Speaker 1: once more with feelings sing along, and Joss has always
Speaker 1: said that he's really disappointed that none of them became
Speaker 1: pop crossover hits. And it's like, oh, sir, like I
Speaker 1: loved many members of Glee Club, so yeah. And Sarah
Speaker 1: Michelle Geller was offered recording contracts and she was like,
Speaker 1: this is auto too. Don't say, Hey, that hasn't stopped
Speaker 1: some other people. It hasn't. She could have done it.
Speaker 1: You you're saying it doesn't stop other people. Have you
Speaker 1: heard our man's what's what's what's his name? Rocket Raccoon
Speaker 1: um Braley Cooper Braley Cooper. Did you hear that song
Speaker 1: from Did you hear that? Someone played it for me
Speaker 1: and I was like, girl, yeah, I had to be
Speaker 1: like with this modern world, I just want to get
Speaker 1: another look at you. I've been saying that to people
Speaker 1: all like all month. Hey I didn't want to do Yeah,
Speaker 1: I that to a dog and the dog was the
Speaker 1: most appreciative sense makes sense. So the casts were friends
Speaker 1: in real life. Obviously that's what happens when you're on
Speaker 1: a show for I think even three days, let alone
Speaker 1: five years. But apparently, uh, they would do Sunday Shakespeare
Speaker 1: read God, y'all are so nerdy. We love you, but
Speaker 1: you're so nerdy. No, and they continue to do it
Speaker 1: through Angel and in fact, it inspired a change from
Speaker 1: one character who went from being one kind of character
Speaker 1: to another because those Shakespeare readings. And when he did
Speaker 1: do what I I remember it off the top of
Speaker 1: my head. He did end up doing a Shakespeare black
Speaker 1: and white, Shakespearean whatever um. When he did that, it
Speaker 1: was inspired by their Sunday night Shakespeare hangouts. That would
Speaker 1: make it the second thing inspired because at the hangouts,
Speaker 1: Joss would kind of sit down at the piano and
Speaker 1: James Marsters had a guitar in his hand and they
Speaker 1: would just do jam sessions. So Josh during a four
Speaker 1: month hiatus, was like, I'm gonna write a collection of
Speaker 1: songs that advanced the plot of the story and make
Speaker 1: this an episode. So that's that's how it happened. And
Speaker 1: every song in there is like a different genre almost
Speaker 1: and every dance is They have everything from like Spike
Speaker 1: doing a very soulful alternate rock song, um, I gotta
Speaker 1: stop being shady. I love this show um to a
Speaker 1: Fossey inspired song, and they had a you know some
Speaker 1: of the writers who are very talented. I think it's
Speaker 1: a like Petrie if I'm remembering this correctly, and and
Speaker 1: I believe Marty knox in they both have periods where
Speaker 1: they sing because they are also people who have voices
Speaker 1: that that he would listen to sing. So it was
Speaker 1: kind of it was Ryan Murphy was looking at this
Speaker 1: and like, this could be a whole show. You're burning
Speaker 1: you're burning your load on. Oh and you and you
Speaker 1: wrote your own music and there's music everywhere. Have you
Speaker 1: heard the radio? Just take those what are you doing?
Speaker 1: But I like that spooky stuff and hush, that could
Speaker 1: be its own show. Basically, I'm My new conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: is that Ryan Murphy watched Buffy and got the idea
Speaker 1: of all those other shows like oh man, the Spike guy,
Speaker 1: he'd be looking good if he vogued a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let me look up some ballrooms. Oh god, he did
Speaker 1: kind of Okay, the last one that we have on.
Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about this obviously forever. Conversations
Speaker 1: with Dead People. So Conversations with Dead People is during
Speaker 1: the last UM, which the six season is probably the
Speaker 1: most controversial. The seventh season six. Now they had hopped
Speaker 1: over to up N because the fifth season was the
Speaker 1: last season at w B, and honestly, w B was
Speaker 1: going to drop them, not because of viewership, obviously this
Speaker 1: was a really hot show. They were going to drop
Speaker 1: them because of contracts and money, and like, you just
Speaker 1: I respect the actors for being like that. Was like
Speaker 1: that with friends, you know, with Friends, they were going
Speaker 1: to make a million dollars and like, obviously they weren't
Speaker 1: at Friends level, but still they were like, no, we
Speaker 1: deserve this money. Where the your top rated show? And
Speaker 1: they were like no, and so up N picked them up.
Speaker 1: But yeah, sorry, so it was a sixth season. Now
Speaker 1: they're at up N. Well, the sixth season was UM.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, let me double check. But the
Speaker 1: sixth season was UM. Was once more feeling, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the seventh season is now we they've been in the
Speaker 1: up N UM. You're right, this is the Conversations with
Speaker 1: Dead People is in the seventh season So I don't
Speaker 1: remember when this came out, but Sarah Michelle Geller announced
Speaker 1: that she was leaving Buffy in an episode of episode
Speaker 1: we Are of Entertainment Weekly. Um episode in an issue
Speaker 1: of Entertainment Weekly. Remember magazines that were physical And according
Speaker 1: to many people, they did not know that she was
Speaker 1: leaving until that happened. And so the season was going
Speaker 1: as it was going to go, and suddenly it wound
Speaker 1: up being what we've got to wrap this up? Um,
Speaker 1: And Conversations with Dead People is another one. It starts differently.
Speaker 1: It starts with a band um singing a thing which
Speaker 1: is actually a really lovely song, and it's about three
Speaker 1: different confort three different things happening. So Buffy is fighting
Speaker 1: this vampire that it turns out she went to high
Speaker 1: school with who then like became kind of a piece
Speaker 1: of ship and studied tekwondo or whatever. And Um and
Speaker 1: her sister Dawn, who didn't happen until earlier. We don't
Speaker 1: have enough time to talk about don, but her sister Donald, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is Michelle Trackenberg, Michelle track and Bird, who was
Speaker 1: adorable and amazing and we love her. Harriet the Spy,
Speaker 1: coming off of Harriet the spy. She was a key
Speaker 1: in season five, they made everyone believe with Buffy's sister
Speaker 1: because they knew she would protect her because Buffy loves people. Okay,
Speaker 1: so then she was like having this thing where um
Speaker 1: someone was what we find out is the first which
Speaker 1: is a demon thing that had come across like they'd
Speaker 1: already encountered in the second season, pretended to be their
Speaker 1: mom Joyce, who was dead and was trying to like
Speaker 1: freak her out and be like, Buffy hates you, She's
Speaker 1: not going to protect you. And then we have um
Speaker 1: So in the end of season six, when Willow becomes
Speaker 1: addicted to magic in the thinnest drug metaphor that has
Speaker 1: ever been her girlfriend of a few years. By this point, Tara,
Speaker 1: who had literally been made a featured player in that
Speaker 1: episod owed, was murdered and this made her go on
Speaker 1: this huge rampage, and so in conversations with dead people,
Speaker 1: they had someone who had passed away earlier in the
Speaker 1: season a character come back and say, Tara wants to
Speaker 1: talk to you, but she can't. And the reason why
Speaker 1: Tara couldn't come back was because the actress said, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be the last they see
Speaker 1: of Tara, because there aren't that many gay relationships on
Speaker 1: TV and now both her. I don't I've never heard
Speaker 1: any different, but both her and Alison Hannigan, UM, neither
Speaker 1: one of them have come out as being gay or queer. UM.
Speaker 1: Both of them have been in straight relationships. But it
Speaker 1: was very important for them that this was This was
Speaker 1: like one of the first gay kisses, if not the
Speaker 1: gay kiss on TV. They were a very important gay relationship.
Speaker 1: It was kind of the beginning of kill your queers, um.
Speaker 1: And so for her, she said, no, I don't want
Speaker 1: her to come back. This relationship was too important for
Speaker 1: her to come back for it to be this thing
Speaker 1: where she's being played by the first YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it. And it didn't ruin
Speaker 1: her relationship because I think everyone got it. And she
Speaker 1: went on to then go on and write in Buffy
Speaker 1: anthologies and other things for the comic books. I don't
Speaker 1: think that. I don't know if there's any any animosity there,
Speaker 1: but it was a way that she put her foot
Speaker 1: down and said, no, this is an important relationship and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to Sully. What that meant to people,
Speaker 1: because she also wasn't working on the show at the time.
Speaker 1: She didn't know that Willow was going to wind up
Speaker 1: getting another girlfriend, and so she was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to sully that by doing this because it was
Speaker 1: too important. But yeah, that that did is kind of
Speaker 1: known for at least starting that trope of barrier gaze,
Speaker 1: which in people that don't know is a is a
Speaker 1: common thing that still happens, uh way too basically describe
Speaker 1: what it is, because I don't think we described. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I said kill your queers, which is also like the
Speaker 1: more harsh version that sometimes as queer folx. Basically when
Speaker 1: you introduce a queer gay character into media and have
Speaker 1: them have a relationship and then you basically fridge them
Speaker 1: so that for due reasons, so they're not around and
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about any ichy same sex
Speaker 1: relationships that might freak out the the the the Midwest
Speaker 1: or whatever. But you still got to do it and
Speaker 1: get the credit for having done it. Um even a
Speaker 1: good movies like The Atomic Blonde did it, which it
Speaker 1: was so jarring because it almost felt like like I
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's scene for us, because I
Speaker 1: like when people do show like queer relationships, but it
Speaker 1: almost say it felt like it was for the male
Speaker 1: gaze because you introduce uh this surprise lesbian relationship. They
Speaker 1: have a sex scene and then she's dead and it
Speaker 1: was like, all right, this this feels like this was
Speaker 1: more just so y'all can get that one scene out right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But yeah, so you know, don't be afraid to build
Speaker 1: lasting relationships. Also, don't be afraid to uh add more
Speaker 1: than one queer character. I feel like the CW is
Speaker 1: doing a good job. They are doing a very good job.
Speaker 1: They're they're working hard to do to have queer representation
Speaker 1: and people of color that have structured and fleshed out storylines. Agreed.
Speaker 1: I would say right now they're probably doing the best
Speaker 1: job of it. Weirdly enough, yeah, I agree. Uh So,
Speaker 1: just to wrap this up, we uh we have a
Speaker 1: reboot coming of the show, Dan, Are you excited about it? Um?
Speaker 1: That took you a while to answer. It's just I
Speaker 1: believe that heading the reboot, and I don't know a
Speaker 1: lot about this because this is one of those things
Speaker 1: where I'm like, there have been so many rumors of
Speaker 1: reboots of the show. When I see it. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I have to apologize. So the I mean, all the
Speaker 1: articles are calling a reboot, but the actual uh, the
Speaker 1: showrunner who is Monico U Subrien who did it? She
Speaker 1: worked on Agents of Shield with Josh Weede and she
Speaker 1: also has the creator of Midnight Texas. She has said
Speaker 1: that this is not a reboot, or at least I
Speaker 1: guess yeah. It's more of a co continuation, which makes
Speaker 1: sense because the way the lore is set up, where
Speaker 1: there's a Slayer that's born in every generation and then
Speaker 1: at a certain point in Buffy is like, sorry, spoilers,
Speaker 1: maybe this is not the episode for you. But then
Speaker 1: there's a certain point in which Buffy releases that any
Speaker 1: woman of that generation that could be a Slayer becomes
Speaker 1: a Slayer, and so that doesn't It's interesting of what
Speaker 1: the ramifications of that can be. There can be all
Speaker 1: of these women running around or young girls at this point.
Speaker 1: You know, if we're following in the timeline women who
Speaker 1: could be slayers, you could still have one Slayer being
Speaker 1: born after you still did that. We don't know how
Speaker 1: that messed up, how that works um And so this
Speaker 1: series was always much like with Dr Who, the idea
Speaker 1: of being able to carry this on with another character
Speaker 1: who still keeps the Moore inside them has always been
Speaker 1: baked in, so that's really interesting. Um. Again, there have
Speaker 1: been so many talks about a reboot or anything of
Speaker 1: this that I'm very much like, I will believe it
Speaker 1: when I see it, but I will cautiously say that
Speaker 1: this is the time for it. This is the time
Speaker 1: for I mean, they just did Sabrina the Teenage, which
Speaker 1: you know we have, um, we have like Wonder Woman,
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel, we have like all of these. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a titled female protagonist superheroes. So you and and
Speaker 1: then the new Doctor, who is the new Doctor for
Speaker 1: this is the time to have this, this show. So
Speaker 1: it makes sense. It does completely make sense. Um. And
Speaker 1: I you know, I think that the show run is
Speaker 1: going to do a great job. I think that I
Speaker 1: always worry with any reboot just because you always do.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm going to get Like with Sabrina,
Speaker 1: I was a little bit worried, and then I saw
Speaker 1: the first previews and I was like, no, that's going
Speaker 1: to be dope. And with the New Doctor, some of
Speaker 1: the previews that BBC was putting out that had like
Speaker 1: weird like pop music behind it and didn't feel like
Speaker 1: the doctor. I was like, what are you doing? And
Speaker 1: then I watched the first episode I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: she's the Doctor. And so I do feel like before
Speaker 1: I start getting really on the hype train, it'll be
Speaker 1: when they start releasing stuff. Also, you know, the TV
Speaker 1: show just isn't the only one getting a reboot. Boom
Speaker 1: Studios just announced that NYCC, which Danny was at holding
Speaker 1: it down, that Buffy the Vampire is going to receive
Speaker 1: an entirely separate comic book reboot, overseen by Josh Whedon.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be O G, triple O G. We'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Um, that'll be exciting. I'm excited
Speaker 1: mostly because Boom Studios does a great job with these properties. Um,
Speaker 1: they are making sorry guys, for my money and for
Speaker 1: my time, the only w w E comic ever that's
Speaker 1: been worth anything. Sorry mcfoley. Um, the Boom Studios WWE
Speaker 1: comics do a great job of fleshing out the stories
Speaker 1: that are behind these storylines and making you really care
Speaker 1: about these character interactions. And so if they can do
Speaker 1: that with what you're given with w W which is
Speaker 1: you know, you have characterizations that change from week to week,
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. Sorry, also a huge wrestle head. I am
Speaker 1: more than confident that they'll be able to take over
Speaker 1: something with such a huge lure. Yeah, and speaking of
Speaker 1: all that stuff you all are saying about this being
Speaker 1: the time, it seems like they are definitely making sure
Speaker 1: like it is going to take place in two thousand nineteen.
Speaker 1: So the world as it is is going to affect
Speaker 1: the characters. So that should be interesting to see. And
Speaker 1: also that's a new way to get a new take.
Speaker 1: You can even like revisit old stuff and see how
Speaker 1: it would change versus being in the nineties versus do
Speaker 1: you imagine that's having to deal with vampires on top
Speaker 1: of everything we're dealing with time. Actually, it actually would
Speaker 1: make sense. I'd be like, Okay, that's what we're saying
Speaker 1: the planet because they needed to be vampire time all
Speaker 1: the time. You know what, That's a fascinating thing because
Speaker 1: on True Blood it was like it was it was
Speaker 1: humans verse vampires, you know what I mean. It was
Speaker 1: like the one even then they had racism and stuff too,
Speaker 1: but I mean it was like the one thing that
Speaker 1: you would think would finally reunite people from different parties
Speaker 1: is like, oh, this thing that is trying to stuck
Speaker 1: our blood like kind of like an alien movies. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, now we're all on the same page.
Speaker 1: We're not. But it's except it won't because I bet
Speaker 1: the people who are trying to get power now we're
Speaker 1: just gonna find ways to be vampire to an event.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good. I mean, yeah, it's true because you know,
Speaker 1: you know, if we were expecting outside interference to unite America,
Speaker 1: we've already proven that it wouldn't. So it's so true.
Speaker 1: Some people might get mad because we're getting political. Um
Speaker 1: now you want to know some Yeah, and a lot
Speaker 1: of these directors like Jos actually follows me and a
Speaker 1: bunch of other ones. And I just want to say
Speaker 1: it is because because I feel like, of my political stuff,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna do a sorry, not so our
Speaker 1: type response. No, but I'm so tired of people telling
Speaker 1: us like stick to comedy or stick to nerve. I'm like, no, actually,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respected directors and actors that
Speaker 1: follow me because yeah, I write tweets about hooking up
Speaker 1: with optimist prime, but also political stuff. Literal hooking up though,
Speaker 1: because I mean, he could you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: just like no, like it's because here's the thing is,
Speaker 1: there is like a beauty to like to thinking that
Speaker 1: one can just stand idly by, uh and just let
Speaker 1: it go. But it's like, if you want me specifically
Speaker 1: and Danny, you're gonna have to take all of us
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about the things that affect us.
Speaker 1: And you know, if that's just too much for you,
Speaker 1: then you know there, I promise you there are tons
Speaker 1: of nerve properties that try and sidestep this stuff. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do is we're gonna ask you to get out
Speaker 1: there and vote, and you know, look, just care about
Speaker 1: other people. I think that's the baseline parties aside care
Speaker 1: about other people in mind your business. And I promise you, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll probably be cool with you. Can I vote and
Speaker 1: still not care about some people? Yes, as long as
Speaker 1: you vote? Uh? So yeah, a lot of um just
Speaker 1: while we have you here and because it's close and
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna just talk to you about it. Uh,
Speaker 1: A lot of voter registration deadlines are coming up. Make
Speaker 1: sure you get out there and vote. And you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, let's just take care of each other.
Speaker 1: You know, all all the other business aside, take care
Speaker 1: of your fellow person, because that should be the least
Speaker 1: of what you're doing. Uh, no matter how you want
Speaker 1: to find a solution to these problems. Uh So, where
Speaker 1: can people find you, Danielle Um? Well, you can just
Speaker 1: find me at daniel Radford on Twitter, Danielle Underscore Radford
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Um My podcast Tights and Fights, where we
Speaker 1: talk about rsslin um on the Maxi Fun Network, goes
Speaker 1: up every Thursday. You can also see me on Thursdays
Speaker 1: at Screen Junkies and um hopefully everywhere. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to take over everything. I like do word typing with
Speaker 1: my hands. Face. Now, don't you have a patreon to
Speaker 1: I do have a Patreon, and my patreon is just
Speaker 1: Danielle Radford. And my tears are small because I know
Speaker 1: how much um me doing additional wrestle talk is worth
Speaker 1: and it's probably not more than ten dollars. So um so,
Speaker 1: my my two. But it's a lot of really good
Speaker 1: chances to hang out with other folks to hang out
Speaker 1: with me. Um we do like once a weekly hangout
Speaker 1: since really nice. So yes, and actually Danielle is on
Speaker 1: two episodes of fan Girling, the show that I host
Speaker 1: at Nerdice. So one just dropped this next week, so sheet,
Speaker 1: so catch out the first two episodes. They are amazing,
Speaker 1: They're so funny, and we talk about more Nerds stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing um some field work with fan
Speaker 1: Girling as well, so um in the next couple of months,
Speaker 1: you can check me out doing some of that stuff too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh Anywren, Oh, I'm at ms Danny Fernandez. Um,
Speaker 1: check out fan Girling. It's dope. It's it's women talking
Speaker 1: to female creators, and it's it's cool and it's really
Speaker 1: funny and chill, and I'm sure have other things to promote.
Speaker 1: I had a really good time at New York Comic Con.
Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone that came out to see me.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. I got to show my that I'm
Speaker 1: I get to play myself and Ralph breaks internet, which
Speaker 1: is so cool. And I got to see my scene
Speaker 1: live when I was hosting the panel in front of
Speaker 1: a thousand people and that was really cool. And Disney
Speaker 1: has been nothing but a dream to work with and
Speaker 1: I love them and um, yeah that's my those are
Speaker 1: my announcements. Nice nice, and you know me. You can
Speaker 1: catch me at if you Wadway on Twitter and Instagram,
Speaker 1: if D's on Twitch. Thanks for coming through Twitch. Dreams
Speaker 1: are gonna get back to their regularity. It's been overwhelming
Speaker 1: first few months as I started at BuzzFeed launching which
Speaker 1: is now live BuzzFeed Multiplayer, the video game based BuzzFeed
Speaker 1: Note where I'm dropping hits with Kelsey, Impeach, Kay and
Speaker 1: Zach here nasty. However, you say that Russian last name,
Speaker 1: so definitely check that out. Come to the stream and
Speaker 1: if you're in the l A area, come to Laughter
Speaker 1: House five all in October twenty five at eight pm
Speaker 1: in uh Highland Park. It's in a bookstore, so that's
Speaker 1: that's why you had a book reference for the title.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and as always, in the month of October,
Speaker 1: stay spooky.