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Speaker 3: But you think you're making the same dish every time.

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Speaker 1: So when you're in it, when you're in it and

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Speaker 1: It's interesting if you walk through the building last year,

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Speaker 1: season after that, describe as much as you can what

433
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 1: that's like.

434
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 3: So the whirlwind is just that, and there's no manual,

435
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 3: there's no guide of how to do it. It's get

436
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 3: called up to the president's office, get told you're doing it.

437
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 3: And from the time I walk from the Resident's office

438
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 3: back down to this building, in my head, I had

439
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: to compartmentalize things. We had to get done before we

440
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: went out in practice the next morning, and the first

441
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: thing was fixing our special teams. So I walked from

442
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: there back to this building, walked straight up to Jason

443
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: Seymour's office, who was the linebacker coach at the time,

444
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: who's now my defensive coordinator. This part of the relationship

445
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 3: that me and him have. I walked straight into his office.

446
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 3: I told no one anything, walked in his office, sat

447
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: down and closed the door. I said, Jason, I just

448
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: got named interim head coach, and I need to ask

449
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: you something. I said. You're probably gonna say not only no,

450
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 3: but you're gonna run far from it. I said, but

451
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 3: if we wouldn't have any success, we gotta fix our

452
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 3: special teams. We have to fix our punt team. He goes,

453
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 3: you're right, coach, I'd have to be crazy to want

454
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: to do that. He was. But I stayed up all

455
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 3: night last night. I've got one hundred and fifty six

456
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 3: plate cut up of what I would do if you'd

457
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 3: come and ask me this. If this happened, boom. So

458
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: we started fixing punt, had a staff meeting, had a

459
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: team meeting, stood in front of the team and said

460
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 3: I walked in the same shoes you guys have walked

461
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 3: in twenty five years ago. You guys are not losers.

462
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: You just do not know how to win. We're gonna

463
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 3: do this the only way I know how. I'm gonna

464
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 3: be authentic. It's gonna be player led. If it doesn't

465
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: have to do it's graduating or winning games, I don't

466
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: wanna deal with it. And we're gonna create a culture

467
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: that's black and white. Y'all live in a world of gray.

468
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 3: You told a bunch of bs. Every day you can't

469
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 3: open your phone up without knowing what's true not true.

470
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: And you know four years ago this is right, the

471
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: you know, the cusp of the the explosion of ai Ye.

472
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 3: So now everything is it real? Is it not real? Right?

473
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna walk through these doors. We're gonna be black

474
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 3: and white. I'm gonna be transparent with you. You can be

475
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: transparent with me. And we're gonna put pads on and

476
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 3: we're gonna absolutely go out there and knock the crap

477
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: out of each other. Said, but if you ever wanna

478
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: be a winner, you gotta learn how not to lose first.

479
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: And I felt like the team just sat around even

480
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: when they were you know, did things well, they were

481
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: waiting on the bad thing to happen. So we didn't

482
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 3: even talk about the opponent. You know, we were going

483
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 3: up to play Pitt who was you know, twenty twenty

484
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: one in the country on the road that first game,

485
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: and we didn't talk about it. We went out. We

486
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: practiced about three hours on Tuesday, full pads, three hours

487
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: on Wednesday, full pads. Thursday, did the same thing again.

488
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 3: When Friday, I said, you know, probably need to do

489
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 3: a little bit scout team work, but I didn't really care.

490
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: It wann't about the other team. It was about us

491
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 3: becoming a more disciplined, physical, tough football team. And I

492
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 3: wasn't worried about the the the next job. I wasn't

493
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 3: to the point of and I said it every week.

494
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: Everybody asked, well, you know, as we you know, started

495
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 3: to win some games, they said, well what about you know,

496
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 3: this job, you know, getting the the job full timas,

497
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about that job. I'm worried about this

498
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 3: job where And that's really where I submitted into the

499
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: mentality of we feed are to the point it was

500
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, so the day before Thanksgiving, before

501
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 3: the last game of the year, and I went home.

502
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: I got home that night and I was burning the

503
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: candle at every end possible. I mean, I was falling

504
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: asleep on the couch at three thirty four in the morning,

505
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: waking up, coming in and every day I say, I

506
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: can do anything for six more weeks. I can do

507
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: anything for five more weeks. I came home that Wednesday

508
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 3: night and my wife looked at me and said, you know,

509
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: have you heard anything about you know, our future or

510
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: about the job. I said, Babe, why are you asking

511
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: me that? You know, I don't want to talk about that.

512
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 3: And she looked at me and said, I just need

513
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: to know if I need to put the house up

514
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: for sale on Monday or not. A ton of bricks, man,

515
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: a ton of bricks. That it hit me, I need

516
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 3: to know if we need to put the house up

517
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 3: for sale on Monday. Wow. Luckily we didn't. And from

518
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: then on I've really carried over a lot of the

519
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: lessons I've learned there. You know, kept a couple of

520
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: people around, you know, people around you know probably shouldn't

521
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: have really good football coaches that I kept, learned a

522
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: lot of lessons and putting together staff and I tell

523
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: people this. You know, anybody just said their first and

524
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: I told Pete this, Right, everything you do your first year,

525
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: you think you're doing correctly, or you wouldn't be doing it.

526
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: Year two, you realize how bad you were and how

527
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: screwed up you were. Year three you have a decision

528
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: to make. Do I ride it out and just keep

529
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: going because it's year three, or do I restart this

530
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: whole thing back over as year one and now by

531
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: year four, which is what I'm in now, truly like

532
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: a second year of now you're tweaking your processes and

533
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: that's where we're at now. And that's the best advice

534
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 3: I can give anybody that's going through that situation.

535
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: I think the instinct of any kind of high achiever,

536
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: if they're putting that position, is I'm just gonna grind.

537
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna grind.

538
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: Hey man, I may not be the most talented or whatnot,

539
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: I may not be the smartest, but no one will

540
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: out work me. And you know, some people say that

541
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: and they're actually telling the truth. But then there's only

542
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: a certain amount that you can redline mentally and physically.

543
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: And you go and you go, and you go and

544
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: you go and you know, there's a very, very finite

545
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: amount of time that you can live that way. And

546
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: you were talking about burning the candle at both thems. Okay, well,

547
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: now we're four years later, so forget about the X.

548
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: And O portion of this for a second. Just from

549
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: an overall.

550
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: Quality of life standpoint, how does today compared to when

551
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: you first got handed this thing.

552
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 3: I'm more efficient in my time. You know, early on

553
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 3: I was always afraid. I have this fear that I

554
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 3: feel like I'm being efficient but the staff isn't. So

555
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: everything I built was for the staff efficiency. Well, I

556
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: was being pulled in every direction, right they were. I

557
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: was allowing them to be efficient, but it wasn't working

558
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: for me. So I've tweaked each year some of those

559
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: those things. I mean, like even this year, you know

560
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 3: we staffed, we practiced in the morning, so we staff

561
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 3: at one. Well this year I said on practice as

562
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna staf at three so everyone has a chance

563
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: to watch the film. Well, it's great for me. I

564
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: can do different things like this. I can do you know,

565
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: interviews I have to do. I can do obligations I have.

566
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 3: I can watch the practice tape. We can go sit

567
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: down there at three o'clock and talk about practice together.

568
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: Just another tweak of efficiency that's helped me. I don't

569
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: leave my house in the morning without kissing my wife

570
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: and my daughter goodbye, not one time I have ever,

571
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: and I won't those times. I'll stay up till three

572
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: and three thirty in the morning. At midnight, I make

573
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: myself go to bed. Now there's still you know, if

574
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: there's something good on Jimmy you know something you know,

575
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: a good you know singer on Jimmy Fallon or something

576
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: later at night, I might stay up to watch it.

577
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: But uh, I I I I I get my work in.

578
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: I have the things that in my personal life that'll

579
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: uh help me release from it. And I'm working out,

580
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: get up in the mornings and work out, out do

581
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 3: things active, and I'm enjoying it a lot more. But

582
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: what I found is I've become a lot more productive.

583
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: I was staying up all night, waking up in the

584
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: morning saying I'm going to outwork anybody. No one will

585
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: outwork me, and no one was. No one's outworking me

586
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: hours wives. But I can also look back and remember

587
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: myself just like staring at something and all of a

588
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: sudden it's been an hour and a half and I

589
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: hadn't gotten through half a page of it, and it

590
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: should have taken me twenty minutes to do.

591
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: You are a head coach, and there are a lot

592
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: of them in the country right now, but very few

593
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: of them played.

594
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: At the place that they're the head coach.

595
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: So you and I are sitting here actually stadiums in

596
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: the background of us right now, and it's this beautiful

597
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: sunny spring day. There's not a soul in here, well,

598
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: at least in terms of a patron, there's not a

599
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: soul in here. Every now and then you walk out

600
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: in your balcony or you just you go down there,

601
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: stand on ten yard line. But if you're middle of spring,

602
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: no one's around here, complete silence, and you just let

603
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: your mind wander for ten fifteen minutes.

604
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: Where does it go?

605
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: Once every month, once once every couple of months, I'll

606
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: kick my feet up on my desk and I'll just

607
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: go across the names. George Morris, John Heisman, William Alexander,

608
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: Billy Shaw, Calvin Johnson, Bobby Dodd. I mean, I just

609
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: go around the stadium and I just look at the names,

610
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: and and I do somewhat pinch myself and say, man,

611
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm lucky. I am. I'm the luckiest man on the

612
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: face of the earth to be able to do this here.

613
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: And I don't ever wanna lose sight of that, cause

614
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: I truly sit in that seat, and everyone that ever

615
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: played here sits in that seat with me and that

616
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: and that's a strong, strong obligation to uphold. You know,

617
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: first day of spring practice last week, out on the

618
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: field and everyone was out there, were getting ready to

619
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: blow the horn and start, and I went up to

620
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: Gatzi to George. You know, I hosted George on his

621
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: official visit here. We were roommates for a large portion

622
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: of time. Here's my wedding. And I walked up to

623
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: him and I dapped him up and said, hey, brother,

624
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: don't forget the times we had out here on this field.

625
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: Don't ever forget them. You know, make this special because it.

626
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: Is you ever do a thing where in those moments,

627
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: or maybe it's just you all by yourself, maybe feed

628
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: her up on the desk. Not only are you kind

629
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: of reminiscing, And man, I'm so lucky, I'm so blessed

630
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: to have this position. I got all this responsibility, but

631
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: also maybe like talk to yourself from fifteen years prior,

632
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: twenty years prior, Well, I was stupid. Just wait for

633
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: a second, all right, but even put the bad decisions

634
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: aside because we all got them. But also you twenty

635
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: years ago, you thirty years ago, if you could, if

636
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: you go back there and just maybe snap your figures

637
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: and give like a ten second glimpse of what's coming

638
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: down the road, how you would have felt twenty thirty

639
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: years ago knowing you could be a head coach a

640
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech.

641
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: Well, the way, there's no way. Never would have believed it,

642
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: never would have believed it, never would have believed it.

643
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't.

644
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: I was that guy that wanted to play in the NFL,

645
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: then didn't want to give up football, So I became

646
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: a coach. Hated it my first year, got into real

647
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Speaker 3: estate for a year and a half. Then I realized

648
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: how much I loved coaching and being around the game

649
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: and how hard it was to get back in. But

650
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Speaker 3: I got back into coaching. You know, hopefully one day

651
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Speaker 3: to you know, coach the offensive line in my high

652
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: school and you know, maybe if I got lucky, did

653
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: the head coach at my high school, just to say,

654
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: to know that I'd be sitting here, you know, on

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Speaker 3: that same field that I've you know, played on and

656
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: bled on, you had so many great memories on.

657
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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not even in a realm of belief,

659
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Speaker 3: you en. If I really want to get get down

660
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: into it, I think about the coaches that have set

661
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: in that seat strong. Yeah, it's strong. So I got

662
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: a lot of people to you know, to to a

663
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: lot of great people that have been in front of me,

664
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Speaker 3: to live up to a lot of people that are

665
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: looking at everything we do every day. But I've also

666
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: learned the last you know, four years, not to not

667
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: to turn that into pressure. Right. I can't answer everyone's call.

668
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: I can't answer everyone's text because there are a lot.

669
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Speaker 3: I can't you know, give everyone their wishes or let

670
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: everyone's nephew or brother or son get a you know,

671
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: have a scholarship. You can't do that. You have to

672
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: stand on your ground. And I'm in the position I'm

673
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: in to make those decisions, to make hard decisions, and

674
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: I have to look at it and say what is

675
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: best for the GT and what is best for the

676
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: players on this football team now, And every decision I

677
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: make really comes down to those two things.

678
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Speaker 1: You just got done having a multi year run with

679
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: Haines King as your quarterback, who, pound for pound, may

680
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: be one of the toughest players we've ever watched play

681
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: leadership in droves.

682
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: And so he exits your program.

683
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: He'm well, so, yeah, he's today Actually, so he's constantly around.

684
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: Someone else is going to have to play quarterback for

685
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Speaker 2: you this year.

686
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Speaker 1: But also the leadership aspect of that, like when you

687
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: have that chunk, that critical piece of leadership that leaves

688
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: in an ideal world, someone just steps right in and

689
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: they're like a duplicate of that. In another more realistic world,

690
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: you probably got to have several guys that step in

691
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: and step up there.

692
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: But when you're put together football team, you're.

693
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: Watching it come together in spring and then you got

694
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: summer workouts and then you got fall camp. When in

695
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: an ideal world, see leadership start to form, like in

696
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Speaker 1: an individual player, what does that start to look like?

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Speaker 3: Leadership in a hole is lonely, and it's lonely because

698
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: of the decisions you have to make, the things you

699
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: have to say, the things you have to you know,

700
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: hold people accountable for so to see the person on

701
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 3: the field that and they're easy to see. It's not afraid.

702
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: They might have been here two months. There might be

703
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: a freshman, you know, rarely it's a freshman, but it

704
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: might be somebody that's been here for three years and

705
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 3: just now decides to take that role. They're doing things

706
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: and saying things that are not the popular thing to

707
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: do in today's world. They're in early, they stay late,

708
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: you know. You know, I look at the you know,

709
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Speaker 3: the film study reports from the iPads that they all have,

710
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: you know, at home, it's hours upon hours of extra

711
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: they have. They don't miss class, They set the example.

712
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: They do everything can to influence people in a positive way.

713
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: You know, when you have one guy like Haynes, sometimes

714
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: that blessing can be your curse too, It really can.

715
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Speaker 3: Especially on a football team. It's different than every other sport.

716
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: There's three phases that all have to play together. Right.

717
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: There's eleven guys on the field at one time, right,

718
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: And I don't know anybody that's played golf right that

719
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: has shot the same on every course they played on,

720
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: every time they played on it. Because precision comes and goes,

721
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Speaker 3: and with that comes emotions. Well, when you're the quarterback,

722
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: you're not always going to be on. Something's gonna be on.

723
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Speaker 3: Just why you shot up seventy two on of course,

724
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Speaker 3: and you go shoot to eighty six on the same

725
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: course the next day. Sometimes it's just off. But when

726
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: everyone looks at one singular person as that leader and

727
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 3: then they're off, well what happens to the leadership of

728
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: the team. Maybe they have to worry about themselves a

729
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: little bit more that day and they can't affect that

730
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: other person. So I believe in football to have multiple

731
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: leaders is really important, and we really were to start

732
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Speaker 3: developing those guys in January.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to wrap up without asking you just

734
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Speaker 1: about the roster overall, because I was here last year

735
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: and then I was here today, And I mean I

736
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: could have brought my sister to practice those two times

737
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: and she would know that this group you got just

738
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: looks a whole lot bigger than the group you had

739
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: last year, which is certainly intentional, But I mean, what

740
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: specifically did you have in mind? What were the bullet points?

741
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Speaker 1: Here's what I'm looking for when we overhaul this thing.

742
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Speaker 3: We had to get bigger. We had to get longer

743
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: without losing athletic ability, speed, We had to get bigger,

744
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: another one of those forty seven things in the recipe

745
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: that allowed you to start out eight to o and

746
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: then go one and three down the stretch. Right, there's

747
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: weight classes in boxing for a reason. Coach Saban used

748
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 3: to always say that, and it's real, Right, there's there's

749
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: there's teams that we've played that we've out coached, we've

750
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: out played, and they out recruited us. So we had

751
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: to make up that ground. It's a lifeblood of our program.

752
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: We've recruited. Well, there's nowhere to the standard and and

753
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: and to believe that I think we can be here.

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00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: I do not buy into what the external narrative is,

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00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: whether it be from people that have been in a

756
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: place before, people that are fans of a place, people

757
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: that aren't fans of a place. Right. I believe in

758
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: recruiting the best players for Georgia Tech football today. Right.

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: I don't read social media, I don't read think of

760
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: when I'm evaluating recruits. I will not let the recruiting

761
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: people say one. I won't let them say who else

762
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: is recruiting 'em? Who else? You know what stars they have,

763
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: you know what services have done with them? None of that.

764
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Speaker 3: I wanna know truly the evaluation that I'll see on

765
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Speaker 3: tape and then does the character and you know, all

766
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: the other things match up to what we need now

767
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: aligns with the recruiting services. That's great, right, but I

768
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: want the best players for this place, and we had

769
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Speaker 3: to continue to elevate that. We've elevated it, but not

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