1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Game Day Live Preview podcast. We're going 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: down to Dallas. They have the worst d but the 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: best offense. A little bit of two face there, Ken Batman, 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: that's JD five. Come in and take over this football game. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: I think. So here all the details right now. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: Welcome into the Game Day Live Preview podcast. I am 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: producer Jason and I am here with former NFL tight 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: end for ten years, Logan Paulsen. He's also a really 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: good friend of mine. In fact, we talk about life sometimes. 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: Can I just call each other and we're like, Hey, 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: how you doing? 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: How things going? Yeah? That's good man. But we're talking 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: about football today though, right. 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I love talking with you about. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: We're just guys talking about football. We're glad you joined us. 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: For all away games, you're gonna hear me and Logan. 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: For home games, you're going to get the live show 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: that's out at DC Prime. Don't miss those. Those are 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: Wednesdays or Thursday night. Garrie Clark, can I can I 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: interest you in a sprinkle of Brian Mitchell And every 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: now and then we'll have a surprise guests show up. 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: We've had London Fletcher join Santana Moss has been around 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: so real legends talking about the previewing the upcoming game 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: for home games. That's for home games. But you get us, 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: you get well, you're great, but you get me as 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: just a Joe Schmoll because yeah. 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: Everyone's tracking like fletches on the road. You know, the 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: guy Brian's on the everyone's on the road. So if 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: you can go to those, if you go to C 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Prime and get that home experience, that'd be awesome. But 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: in the meantime we'll try and you know, fill your 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: fancy here. 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: Also order the lobster bites when you're there. They're absolutely amazing. Okay, 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: but Logan, we do want to hear from you because 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: you're one of the smartest guys I know when it 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: comes to football. 37 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: It's too nice to be here. 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: We've got the Dallas Cowboys, who I am a lifelong 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: Washington fan and I despise them. So I am going 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: to ask you, how do we make sure that we 41 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: beat the Cowboys in Dallas, which is always tough, but 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: these rival games they always feel like come down to 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: the wire. Not always, but they pretty pretty much, especially 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: since we've had Jade and Daniels in this new regime 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: in here with DQ. The Cowboys are just like the 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: Commanders in that they have yet to win two games 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: in a row or lose two games in a row 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: this season. 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So rivalry games are always really fun because they 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: are you're familiar with those teams, even guys that are 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: really relatively new to the organization and don't know the 52 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: history of the rivalry. Like, for example, when I played like, 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: I knew that Brandon Graham, I knew his moves, I 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: knew Jason Babbins moves when they were in Philadelphia. I 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: knew what DeMarcus were you like to do? And I 56 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: understood kind of the defensive front and so understanding that personnel, 57 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: it breeds a little bit of contempt kind of like 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about in training camp, Jason, how 59 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: you get you kind of go against the same guys 60 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: all the time. That's what a rivalry game feels like 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. It feels like they kind of know 62 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: how to beat you. You kind of know how to 63 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: beat them. Who's going to come out of the matchup 64 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: more efficiently? Always always a good time. So when it 65 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: comes to beating Dallas, do you want to do this offensively? 66 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: And defensively or how do you want to do this? 67 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's how I'm going to do it for you. 68 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: I'm basically we know about our team and we've had 69 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: we have so many pods. We've talked about them all 70 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: week leading up. I want to focus on Dallas here, 71 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: and I want to focus on it in the sense 72 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: of from a Washington perspective. How are we defeating them? 73 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: You do a good film breakdown show that leads up 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: to this. We have a lot of good content, but 75 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: this is where I want you to get into the weeds. 76 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: So I want to start with the defense. Then we'll 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: move over to the Cowboys offense. So defensively, little rough 78 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: for them. In fact, they're in the bottom of the 79 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: league defensively. They give up the most points, they give 80 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: up the most yards, so they are for rushing twenty ninth, 81 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: for passing, the worst total, the worst scoring second tours. 82 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: They give up a lot of points, almost thirty points 83 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: a game average. So are you if you're a Cliff Kingsbury, 84 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: if you're Jane and in you're the offense, are you like, 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: do you have a little confidence going into this game? 86 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: Or are you saying yourself, Hey, we still got to 87 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: be ourselves. We still got to take advantage of what 88 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: they're gonna give us. What are you looking at to 89 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: attack this defense? Are you like they're the worst in 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: the league? Yeah, how does that make you feel? 91 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: So? I think what I would look at first and 92 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: think about first is the thing that has been the 93 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: most challenging coming out of the Bears game is this 94 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: kind of people playing heavy boxes and playing man coverage. 95 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: And I say to myself, like, can they do that? 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: Or will Eberflus the defensive coordinator do that? And my 97 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: short answer is like, I don't think so. Eberflus traditionally 98 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: has been a softer cover three zone team. He's been 99 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: very traditional. So, like an example of his traditionalism is 100 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, everyone kind of was moving 101 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: to these two high safety structures, right think about Vic 102 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: Fangio the quarter stuff. We're gonna make everything look the same, 103 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna disguise at all. And he was like, no, 104 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: what man, I'm gonna play cover one to stay with 105 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: the cover one thing. And he would get gashed by 106 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: these teams with like they would run these like vertical 107 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: rop concepts that would really put that middlefield safety in 108 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: a bund so in terms of his history, traditionally, he's 109 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: been very dogmatic in sticking with his defensive philosophy. So 110 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: like people who've asked me, like my dad is one 111 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: of them and said, well, what if they just do 112 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: what the Bears did? Historically he has not been that guy. 113 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: So when you look at the teams that Washington has 114 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: had a lot of success against, they're teams that have 115 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: a hard time creating a pass rush with four. They 116 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: play a lot of his own coverage. Think about the La 117 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: Chargers for example, and they don't play heavy boxes. So 118 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: when you look at of those three things, the Dallas 119 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys do two of them a lot. They play a 120 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: lot of his own coverage, and they have hard time 121 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: rushing with four. They will play heavy boxes, but as 122 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: we talked about in the film Breakdown Show, sometimes they 123 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: don't fit those runs correctly. They don't like major in 124 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: it one hundred percent. So what I would say is 125 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: lean into that stuff and Jaidan Daniels, when you can't 126 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: rush with four, is going to pick you apart versus 127 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: own coverage. Like I think about the throw to Deebo 128 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: Samuel's It was in like the second quarter of the game, 129 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: Like on that high cross right where they're playing zone 130 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: behind it, he's run across the middle of the field. 131 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: The throw to Jaalen lane against the Chargers like, you'll 132 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: see a lot of those throws, those free access, easy 133 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: throws into space. So that's exciting. And then the other 134 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: element of this is even when they do play heavy boxes, 135 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: unlike the Bears, they kind of give you a static picture. Right, 136 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna have our four down linemen. We're gonna have 137 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: our three linebackers or our two linebackers and a nickel 138 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: and a strong safety, and they are going to fit 139 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: the run in their gaps straight downhill. If we know 140 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: where our combinations are going. The Commanders offensive line like 141 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: we are good enough to block that every day of 142 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: the week. And then you get a guy like Bill 143 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: or Chris Rodriguez or McNichols who's going to break tackles 144 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: because again they haven't tackled very well. So I think 145 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: all of those things kind of lead you to a 146 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: very confident notion that they're going to be in a 147 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: good spot. The Commander's offense will be in a good 148 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: spot versus the Dallas Cowboys defense. 149 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this question. Then, Logan, it 150 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: seems like the Bears, who were not great at stopping 151 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: the run, coming into the game against Washington, said, you 152 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: know what, you're without Terry mcclarin, You're without Noah Brown. 153 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: You're struggling a little bit with your past catchers and 154 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: your skill positions as far as health. So we're going 155 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: to sack the box, try and beat us, right, And 156 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: that worked us some success for them, So why would 157 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: Dallas not do the same, And if they do do 158 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: the same, what's your answer. 159 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: I think it's more honestly of Ibraflus, right. So a 160 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: good example of this is in twenty twenty three, I 161 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: think they were playing the Chiefs and at the time, 162 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: everyone had a ton of success versus the Chiefs playing 163 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: two high safeties like Tampa two Cover two, We're not 164 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: going to let you beat us deep over the top, 165 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: and really stifled that offense and it was one of 166 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: their least productive offensive years. Iberflus came to ten and said, 167 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to do what I do. I'm want to 168 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: play Cover three, and the Chansas City Chiefs had the 169 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: most productive offensive performance of the season up to that point. 170 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I think it was like Week eight Okay. So historically 171 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: he's a guy that like he's seen other people have 172 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: success and has not necessarily augmented his He's just going 173 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: to do his thing, I think. So now could he 174 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: come out and be like, man, we really need to 175 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: get this win. I'm going to be a little bit 176 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: more aggressive. We're going to play a little bit like 177 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: percentage wise. We could still play cover three, we can 178 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: still kind of live in the house that I like 179 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: to live in. But maybe we run five percent more 180 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: man coverage. Maybe we pressure on first down ten percent more. Yeah, 181 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: but I don't think you're going to see the total 182 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: departure like you saw from the Bears. And I think 183 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you also have to remember the Bears were coming out 184 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: of a bye week, so they had a lot of 185 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: time to kind of think through these run fits, playing 186 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: the runs they were going to see, and you could 187 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: feel that in terms of how they were fitting downhill. 188 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: So I think this is going to be just a 189 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: different animal in terms of how it's a different animal 190 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: in terms of how Eberflus historically wants to play defense 191 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: and what they've shown up until this point, they don't 192 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: have the buy to get it corrected. So again, I 193 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: think it's going to be what it's going to be, 194 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: and again they can clean up those details. On the 195 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: film Breakdown show, we talk about how there's a lot 196 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: of good, talented players on that side of the football. 197 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: It just getting them all to kind of see it 198 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: the same way. Maybe that's where they put their emphasis 199 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: this week and they play better. But I do think 200 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of I think you're going to 201 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: get what Ebrafus does and he's gonna do what he does. 202 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: And so far, so far this season, he has not 203 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: been a lot of There's not been a lot of 204 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: line stunts, not been a lot of pressure on first down. 205 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't expect that. 206 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: Now, what would you say is the game plan as 207 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: far as pass rush balance to beating Dallas this week? 208 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: So I think one of the things, I think you're 209 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: gonna run the football. I think you want to run 210 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: the football. I think you want to get downhill. I 211 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: think you want to force those guys to tackle. And 212 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: it's not like they're not playing well. I think when 213 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: you look at their safeties, in particular, Devon Wilson's having 214 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: a very good year. He's a guy that flashes and 215 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: makes a lot of plays for them kind of their 216 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: their ace in the back end of that defense. So 217 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: they do have playmakers, and he's usually the eighth guy 218 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: in the box for them. But I think you can. 219 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: I think you get after their front. I think again, 220 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: like one good secondary player does not a good defense make. 221 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: They have Kenny Clark, who's a good defensive tackle. He's 222 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: a very productive, a lot of experience. Osa Digwizua also 223 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: very talented. But both those guys are a little a 224 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: little light versus a run. So I want to push that. 225 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: I want to kind of attack that. Dante Fowler is 226 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: one of their starting defensive ends. Sam Williams starting defensive end. 227 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: Both those guys are smaller pass rush specialists. And so 228 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: when you look at like the aggregate of who they are, 229 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: they of the eight man active on game day, they 230 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: have one guy who's over three hundred pounds, really like 231 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty pounds, and that's a rookie from UCLA. 232 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: So to me, it's like the front small, they're not 233 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: overly efficient at stopping the run, and so I want 234 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: to run the football. Now. To run the football, I 235 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: need to make sure I get first downs. That's another 236 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: element here too. So I'm not just going to like 237 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: he in, We're not going to run the ball three 238 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: times twelve times in a row and goes or a touchdown. 239 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: I have to have a diverse, well thought out game 240 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: plan that keeps The best term I've heard for this 241 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: is keeping a defense unsettled. So I'm going to show 242 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: them maybe that thirteen personnel with Trent Scott, we're going 243 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: to run a little play action pass right, or we're 244 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: gonna run maybe we run a shift out of that 245 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: this week, kind of put them off, kind of get 246 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: them thinking about different stuff. Then we're going to get 247 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: out in our hurry up and we're going to run 248 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: some type of novel formation and take a shot down 249 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: the field and we're going to slowly just keep them unsettled, 250 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: keep their eyes unsettled and find those explosive chunks because 251 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: they're making mistakes, they're not playing fast because they're uncertain, 252 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: and win. This offense that Cliff Kingsbury is cultivated is 253 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: at its best. They're doing that all the time, and 254 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: so like, I think that's well within the range of outcomes. 255 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: We're gon. We're gonna we're gonna try and run the football, 256 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But it's in the aggregator, in 257 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: the ecosystem of a healthy, diverse, unsettling offense for the defense. 258 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I have talked at length just among ourselves, 259 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: with some of those very friendly phone calls that we 260 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: have with each other, building our friendship and our report. 261 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: We talk about how sometimes rushing attempts for an offense 262 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: does not actually dictate how well you do in a game. 263 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: And we hear a lot. I used to think this 264 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: all the time. It was like, run the ball. If 265 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: you run the ball, you'll win the game. And it's like, 266 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: well sometimes sometimes, but other times you can run the 267 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: ball thirty plus times and you'll lose the game. Why 268 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: does that happen, Well, because you're running the ball against 269 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: a stack box for two yards. Then you're running the 270 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: ball against a stack box for three yards. Now you 271 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: have to pass. It's incomplete. You punt the ball, they 272 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: go down, they score right, and now you're behind, and 273 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: you can't stay if you do that two or three 274 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: times a game. You can't stay just running the ball 275 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: for three yards four yards at a time because you 276 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: can't score quick enough. Now the clock is now going 277 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: against you. All that being said, I said, all of 278 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: that to say this Dallas a route allows one hundred 279 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: and forty or more rushing yard. They've allowed that four 280 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: and six games and thirty or more rushing attempts in 281 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: every game. Teams like to run on them. So if 282 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: we run on them, do you see us winning the game? 283 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean if you've got like, if you this 284 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: is the thing is you've got an efficient rushing attack, right, 285 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: you're going to be fine. Like look at the Chargers game. 286 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a great case study of what we're 287 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: talking about. Like you're able to find some of your 288 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: explosive plays through the run game. That's exactly what you're 289 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: looking for. Like when you give like Derrick Henry is 290 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: a good example, or Saquon Barkley. Like, when you give 291 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley or Derrick Henry forty five touches in a game, 292 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: you're counting on that player to hit a couple fifteen 293 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five yard games in there. And so when 294 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: you look at like high level analytics football, you're hunting 295 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: for explosive plays. This is a game unlike the one 296 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: you describe. Or they're going to play an eight man box, 297 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: we're going to average three yards of carry. Unlike that 298 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: set up for a game where we're going to have 299 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: some of these are going to be explosive runs. We're 300 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: going to have a couple ten yard runs, a couple 301 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: of fifteen yard runs, a couple easy buttons, and again 302 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: that keep us on schedule and let us play the 303 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: style of football that we want to play here in Washington. 304 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: And even though Dallas has the worst, yeah, the worst 305 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: passing defense, you probably still want to try and run 306 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: against them because of their offense, and you want the 307 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: clock to tick, you want to keep them off the field. 308 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: Let's talk about this offense. They are the exact. 309 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: Did I say, yeah? So, this to me is going 310 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: to be an offensive driven game. Like everyone, We're going 311 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: to talk about the defense here in a second. The 312 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: more the offense can possess the football, keep their defense 313 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: their offense off the field in terms of times of 314 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: times possession. That doesn't mean run the football. That means 315 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: let's just get a bunch of first downs and let's 316 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: score points. That's going to be the key to this game. 317 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: In my opinion, this is going to be an offensive 318 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: driven game in terms of alleviating some of the pressure 319 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: on the commander's defense. 320 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: So you're saying, have a lot of first downs. It 321 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you get them through rushing or passing, 322 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: just have a lot of guys. 323 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: Got to possess the ball. So, like again, I've said 324 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: this twelve times this year already. We've got to possess 325 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: the football to run the football. We don't run the 326 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: football to possess the football. There, it's an inverse statistic 327 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: of what people normally think about when talking about football. 328 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: Well, they're the second best passing team in the NFL, 329 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: and they're the best scoring or a third best scoring team, 330 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: and the best overall offensive team in the NFL. 331 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: They're very better than them. Who's you said, yardage their 332 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: second yardage? 333 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: Yardage are first, scoring their third, passing their second. Uh, 334 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't know who's first. I probably should have looked 335 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: that up. 336 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: It's okay, Yeah, it doesn't matter. We're not playing that team. 337 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: We're playing this team. 338 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're playing this year. That's right. I stay focused 339 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: on the Cowboys. So my question then is how do 340 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: you slow them down? And this leads us into our segment, 341 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: stop that logan Dak Prescott. I've never been a Dak guy. 342 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: That's because I'm a Washington guy. But man, he looks 343 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: good this year. What's clicking for him? And how you 344 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: stop that? 345 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: He's doing really really well. Okay, so in high leverage moments, 346 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: he's playing probably better than anybody I've watched this year. 347 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: I know Baker Baker Mayfield's playing well, but I've watched 348 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, I've watched you know, a little Josh Allen 349 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: this year, and he is just absolutely dealing. Right. So 350 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: the thing about their offense is there are these high level, 351 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: level leverage moments where Dak looks great, Like on third 352 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: and six, he's gonna check the play, throw a touchdown 353 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: versus Green Bay. There's a third and two versus Carolina 354 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: where he throws a slant ends up being a touchdown. 355 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: We break down one of those on the film breakdown 356 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: Social makes you check that out. And so, but in 357 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: between those moments, the offense is relatively tepid. And so 358 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: what I mean by that, it's like, you're gonna get 359 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: a boot to the perimeter, you're gonna get a screen, 360 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a quick game, you're gonna get some 361 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: type of play action shot. And he checks those down 362 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: more than I was expected after watching that, because I 363 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of go I watch the highlights and then I 364 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: just watch a game or watch I watch all the passes. 365 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: So I watch three games worth of passes, and so 366 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: the amount of times they're running some type of play 367 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: action shot and he's checking it down to the tight 368 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: end over the ball for five yards. Then they run 369 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: the ball on second and five for a gain of three. 370 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: Then he does something good. On third down, they throw 371 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: a screen and they just kind of dink and dunk 372 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: and chunk little chunk their way down the field until 373 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: they hit a fifty to fifty ball to Pickens, or 374 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: they hit a slant to Pickens for a touchdown, or 375 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: they find Ceedee Lamb on a choice route and he's 376 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: breaking across the middle of the field. They are really 377 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: so they're really deliberate outside of those moments. So to 378 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: me to slow them down, I want to make them 379 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: less efficient as inefficient as possible on first down, So 380 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: first thing is they run a lot of keepers like 381 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: that just jumps off the screen at you. So what 382 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: are our rules for our defensive ends. Do we pursue 383 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: up field to stop the quarterback? Probably is what I 384 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: would say. But if you're going to do that, you 385 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: need to have a plan for the cutback on the run. 386 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: So do we have the guys play back? Are we 387 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: bringing some type of pressure or bringing a line stunt? 388 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: That's the first thing. Screens. Defensive linemen need to be 389 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: incredibly disciplined with their screen rules. They run a lot 390 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: of first down screens, second and seven screens like as 391 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: part of their rushing attack, which is surprising. It's a 392 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: little unconventional. So defensive line, what are your rules? Right? 393 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: And then when we got to stop the run, Williams 394 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: they're running back is kind of having a resurgence after 395 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: coming out of Dallas. He is a big guy getting downhill. 396 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: Their offensive line's not very good, so kin law pain, 397 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: let's penetrate defensive ends. Let's set hard edges, let's keep 398 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: it inside, force it back to Frankly Lou Bobby Waigener. 399 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: Let's get them to a long down in distance. That's 400 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: how you're going to do it. And then in those 401 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: long down and distances, their offensive line has a really 402 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: hard time holding up. So in those moments long down 403 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: in distances, can we find some way to confuse Dak Prescott? 404 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Just make him hold the ball for a beat because 405 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: they give up quick pressures like crazy, and I'm not 406 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: talking like, oh, like this is a six man exotic 407 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: pressure and we got a free runner. It's like guys 408 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: are losing. Like there's a couple of plays versus I 409 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: want to say it was Lucas van s who's not 410 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: a great pass rushers from Green Bay on Tyler Guyden 411 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: from Dallas. He's their left tackle and Guyden puts his 412 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: hand out to block him, and Venice literally just knocks 413 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: it down and just runs right to the quarterback. Ball 414 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: gets out. But you can get quick wins on this 415 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: offensive line. So that, to me is how I would 416 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: do it. Awareness of keepers and boots, awareness of screens, 417 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: first down efficiency, stopping the run. Runfits are going to 418 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: be super important because then in those third down moments, 419 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: Dak's going to do something special, but he can't do 420 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: it twenty times a game. He's not gonna do that, 421 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: and you win five of those twenty I think so, 422 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: and then you win the game. 423 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: So you're saying, just so I hear you correctly, Yeah, 424 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: don't freak out if we give up a couple of 425 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: big domes replays because Dak's playing at that level seedee lamb. 426 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: Maybe out there Pickens is playing great, They're gonna get there. 427 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: Ferguson's playing a freak out. 428 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: Yes, just keep it mitigated and under control. 429 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a great way to put it. Is 430 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: like they're going to get a chunk? Can you keep 431 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: it to twenty as opposed to forty five in a touchdown? 432 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: Like you were talking to me about that clip we 433 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: watched on the film Breakdown Show versus Carolina. It's a 434 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: slant picking sketches and tried great ball by Dak By 435 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: the way, the safety takes a bad angle, it's going 436 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: to be a fifteen yard gain regardless. Would you take 437 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: a bad angle and ends up being a thirty five 438 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: yard touchdown? That cannot happen. We got to make that 439 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: tackle has to go down. Now they're good football players. 440 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: But this is where it's like all of the things 441 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: that dan Quinn has been preaching since day one, tackling fundamentals, basics, turnovers, 442 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: those things have to come to light. Those first three 443 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: things specifically have to come to life here. We got 444 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: to be an excellent tackling football team and we can't. 445 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: You know how Joe Junior said, like, don't put a 446 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: cape on no capes. Man, trust your teammates do what 447 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: they're supposed to do, and they can trust you, and 448 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: we got a shot to win this football game. 449 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: When it comes to their passing game, are you looking 450 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: at more? How are you you looking to scheme up to? 451 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: Confused Dak? Are you looking at does he struggle with 452 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: more Man? Does he struggle with more zoom? Does he 453 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: struggle with sim press? 454 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: Like? 455 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: How are how does he? Where does he struggle? For 456 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: you to say, like, all right, we're gon we're gonna 457 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: make him take that beat or is it something that 458 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: we haven't seen yet this year and we've got to 459 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 2: be the ones to show the league how to do it. 460 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: The closest one is justin Herbert in terms of like 461 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: play style and how they're playing, Like Herbert is more 462 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: physically gifted than Dak, but like Dak mentally right now 463 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: is playing really well and so well. Again we talked 464 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: about on the film Breakdown show, like can you just 465 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: make him think for a second that it's something other 466 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: than what it actually is? Like that, to me is 467 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: going to be the story of this game. So if 468 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: you think if it looks like man, he's going to 469 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: know where that ball is going to go like, that's 470 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: how locked in he is, So can you show him 471 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: man roll the cover two. That's honestly how he got 472 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: justin Herbert in the second half of that football game. 473 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: As we were showing him a lot of man looks, 474 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: we'd roll the cover two. It surprised them enough that 475 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: the ball stays in his hand and you're able to 476 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: get a pressure. And so even though a lot of 477 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: their starters are in the lineup for Dallas, the offensive 478 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: line quality is very, very similar to what the Chargers 479 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: were putting out there a couple weeks ago. Right, So 480 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: our guys should be able to get home, but you 481 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: just need to get him to go. Oh, that's not 482 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: what I thought. And you just need a tenth of 483 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: a second, right, because their starting right guard is out, 484 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: Cooper BB. Their starting center is out, so they've got 485 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: a lot of mismatched pieces in there. Tyler Guiton is 486 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: not playing that well. Tern Steele and Tyler Smith are 487 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: playing better and they've been they're playing well. You know, 488 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith just got paid like a gazillion dollars one 489 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: of the best guards in football. But one guy does 490 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: not make a good offensive line. So I think you 491 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: can take advantage of this and really put a lot 492 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: of pressure on But it starts not with that. It 493 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: starts with the secondary disguise and just being like, hey, 494 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: he needs to pull this thing down for a beat, 495 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: because then we get home and get a pressure. 496 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Logan, here's how we're going to end this show. 497 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: Do we win the game? What do you think? 498 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: I do think we win the game, and I'll tell 499 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: you why. I think one of the things about j 500 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: Daniels that I love, having played with guys like him, 501 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: obviously not to the same level, is when they have 502 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: a I actually thought he played pretty well against the Bears, 503 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: so that being said, but he had a mistake at 504 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: the end that everyone's going to be talking about this 505 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: entire week is he is a dude that loves to 506 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: prove people wrong. And if he's playing his if he's 507 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: playing the best version of himself, which I don't think 508 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: we've even gotten yet because he's been he was hurt 509 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: early in the year, I think this could be an 510 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: outstanding day for this offense. I don't care who's playing receiver. 511 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: I think if he's in his bag versus this defense, 512 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: I think we have a shot to win this game, 513 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: and I think there's a really high percentage that we 514 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: get that version of Jane Daniels. 515 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Logan. I love talking to you 516 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: about baw enjoy being down in Dallas on the sidelines. 517 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: I love texting with you during the games as well, 518 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: letting you know what my dad thinks. My dad is 519 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: a huge fan and often butts heads with you on 520 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: what your opinions are or the opinions are of the game. 521 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: But it's a lot of fun for me on game 522 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: days just listening to you. You can follow Logan on Twitter. 523 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: It gives game day updates from the sideline. You'll do 524 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: that down in Dallas and I can find you at 525 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: Logan Paulsen NFL. 526 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: Yes on Twitter. 527 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 2: Check it out there. You also do breakdowns on there too. 528 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes, Yeah, there's a good stuff I'm watching when I'm 529 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: going through the film. I'll put that on there also. 530 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, really looking forward to this game. It's 531 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun to watch this team 532 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: get right. 533 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, like, subscribe, comment, do all those things. 534 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: They let us know that you like this stuff that 535 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 2: we can keep making more of it. And Logan, you 536 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: want to send us out, that's it.