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Speaker 2: No, Fox Sports Radio Radio. Are these Lions paper Well,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you three choices, flop, failure, or disappointment. Take

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Speaker 2: your pick. And I'm talking about the Detroit Lions. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you right here, right here, right now, I would

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Speaker 2: tell you I think that Detroit Lions was this year's

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Speaker 2: America's team and for them to lose to Washington forty

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Speaker 2: five thirty one, I can't fathom that. I really can't.

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Speaker 2: And there's some statistics that say, really did that happen?

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Speaker 2: Is Bucky Brooks with me right now? Is he still celebrating?

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Speaker 2: I want to know. Is the Buckman there all right?

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Speaker 3: He is?

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Speaker 2: Yes, No, he's pretty to make he's putting on his makeup. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's okay, I get it. Maybe he's upset, maybe he's

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Speaker 2: depressed as well. Here's a team like the Lions became

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Speaker 2: the first team in NFL history to lose a playoff

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Speaker 2: game when having three hundred plus passing yards and two

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Speaker 2: hundred plus rushing yards. Jared Gott what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? Threet's in a fumble. I don't

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Speaker 2: get it. And I felt for Dan Campbell. I mean

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Speaker 2: I really did. I mean, here's a team fifteen wins.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. I just don't understand. And I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you something else. I'm not too pleased. I'm not

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Speaker 2: too pleased when two teams meet in playoff competition who

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Speaker 2: have already met prior in the season, I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's right. I'm gonna go back in time because I

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Speaker 2: think if you don't know history, you can't talk sports.

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Speaker 2: I know a little bit of history, Okay, I've been

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Speaker 2: around the block a little bit. You know, when they

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Speaker 2: had the World Series back in the day, it was

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Speaker 2: the National League meet in the American League, and those

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Speaker 2: teams had never met until they met in the World Series.

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Speaker 2: All right, this time you had teams playing, and they

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Speaker 2: played earlier on this year. Okay, they had the Texas

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Speaker 2: and Chiefs in Week fifteen at Kansas City. They played that,

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Speaker 2: they played early on, and they played a game. Okay,

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Speaker 2: yesterday they got Commander's Lions. I just I just don't

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Speaker 2: think that teams should play early on. That's just the

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Speaker 2: way it is. I get it, and it's not gonna change.

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Speaker 2: I'm not happy about it. I still think the Lions

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Speaker 2: were a better team. Maybe they were tight the pressure.

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Speaker 2: I think that when you have the game between Washington

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Speaker 2: and Detroit, and the Commanders to me, were somewhat playing

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Speaker 2: with house money. They really were. And the Lions, there's

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Speaker 2: so much pressure on these guys. I think they're somewhat cracked.

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Speaker 2: I really did. I just I don't understand how the

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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions fell in that game yesterday. I just maybe

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Speaker 2: someone to tell me. Jared got twenty three for forty

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Speaker 2: three in the thirteen yards, a touchdown, three I t's,

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Speaker 2: and a fumble. They rushed for two hundred and one yards.

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Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs was tremendous. He really was fourteen to tens,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and five yards, two touchdowns passing. They passed

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Speaker 2: for three thirty six. Jayden Daniels, let's not take anything

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Speaker 2: away from him now quarterback for the Washington Commander's twenty

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Speaker 2: two for thirty one, two ninety nine, two touchdowns, and

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Speaker 2: obviously they passed for two ninety nine years. It's it's

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Speaker 2: just something that I don't understand how things like that

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Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense in the scheme of things because

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Speaker 2: I didn't see Washington winning. Maybe someone else did. I

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Speaker 2: just didn't see it. Look heman Ross Saint Brown. He

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Speaker 2: completed his postgame interviews. He was crying. Dan Campbell was crying,

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Speaker 2: do we have any Dan Campbell postgame? Because I'm getting

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Speaker 2: for Clempton a little choked up over here because I

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Speaker 2: still can't get over the loss. I really can't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you look at again and I'm not wagering.

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Speaker 2: I didn't wager on this game. I really didn't. I

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Speaker 2: just figured, like Detroit be a great story. I haven't

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Speaker 2: I just I don't understand how that happened. So if

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Speaker 3: It just hurts to lose, man, And I don't care

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Speaker 3: if you're the seven seed, six seed, five seed, one seed,

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Speaker 3: because I've lost it all of them down there, and

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Speaker 3: It's hard, you know, when you lose. When you lose

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Speaker 3: these games, man, it's like the players, you know what

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Speaker 3: You know what they go through. You have to get

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Speaker 3: locked in and do those things. So long season.

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Speaker 4: Tell them what guy whatever? On the.

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Speaker 2: You know, I will say this, and I'm guilty of

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Speaker 2: the end of the day. You know, forget about the

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Speaker 2: money because they said, oh, this guy's making so much money.

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Speaker 2: Is he worth it doing this? You know, sitting down

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Speaker 2: for money?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: The bottom line is this, These guys are professionally, these

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Speaker 2: a kid playing Pop Warner football. That's just the way

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Speaker 2: it is. And I'll talk about Jared Goff as good

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Speaker 2: as Jayden Daniels was yesterday. It was that bare for

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff came up short in a big game. I

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Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't happen to Lamar Jackson today. His

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Speaker 2: night included a pick six and interception in the end

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Speaker 2: when the Lions are trying to pull up that comeback. Okay,

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Speaker 2: He also committed a fumble in the first quarter that

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Speaker 2: set up the Washington Commander's first touchdown. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that because it's a big game. He

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Speaker 2: bad game. That happens, right, Bucket Brooks tell me it

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Speaker 2: was just a bad game. And I don't understand. How

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Speaker 2: were you surprised or did you have Washington winning this game.

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Speaker 4: I did not have Washington winning, but I was not

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Speaker 4: surprised about the Commanders going on the road and doing it.

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Speaker 4: Because the quarterback is special. What happens in these moments Andy,

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Speaker 4: And when you think about the Detroit Lines being the

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff going on and it's kind

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Speaker 4: at home. The Lions have always been kind of like

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Speaker 4: the lovable losers. They didn't have the pressure last year.

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Speaker 4: It was kind of like the feel good story. To me,

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Speaker 4: this is the first time that they've had the pressure

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Speaker 4: where there were expectations with them, and they played like

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Speaker 4: a very tight football team in terms of feeling the pressure,

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Speaker 4: the way to depression, those things. Even though Bean Johnson

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Speaker 4: and when Jerry Goff got off to that slow start

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Speaker 4: it was almost like they couldn't get out of their

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Speaker 4: a person, it's hard to watch him go through that.

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Speaker 4: But in the playoffs, that's how these things go. The

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Speaker 4: emotional ups and downs and swings can lead to these

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to say one thing, and I said

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Speaker 2: this early on top of the show. You got to

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Speaker 2: know a little bit of history in the world of

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Speaker 2: sports to be somewhat on top of it. You have

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Speaker 2: to know history to be normal to talk about sports. Okay.

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Speaker 2: And you could talk about the way they played. They

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Speaker 2: were tight, it didn't work out, whatever it is. And

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Speaker 2: people are going to say that Jared GoF right now

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Speaker 2: days with the Rams. Okay, I get it, okay, and

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Speaker 2: talk about what he did. Here's the real reason why

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Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions lost history. And I study this way

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Speaker 2: back in the fifties and I'm not that hole, but

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Speaker 2: I like to read about history. Back in the fifties,

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Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions at a quarterback the name of Bobby Lane,

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Speaker 2: and the Detroit Lions traded Bobby Lane to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: When they traded Bobby Lane to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Bobby

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Speaker 2: Lane said, you will never win a championship in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: He said it'll take at least fifty years. And he

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Speaker 2: put the curse on the Detroit Lion. No one's talking

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Speaker 2: of Bobby Lane. Maybe now it'll be exposed because I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you I read about it, and it's true. The

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Speaker 4: I don't know if the curse can hold true because

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Speaker 4: eventually curses are broken. But I will say it's really

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Speaker 4: tough for the Detroit Lions right now because no matter

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Speaker 4: something that they can bounce back from, the reality is

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers and couldn't close it out. This year,

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Speaker 4: propel them to a fifteen win season. Number one overall

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Speaker 4: kind of penciling them in to be the NFC representative

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Speaker 4: and they couldn't get it done. Now, you look at

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Speaker 4: Dan Campbell having to do it with so much newness around.

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Speaker 4: It's unfortunate, but it's heartbreaking for Detroit Lions fans because

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Speaker 4: they may not get back to this moment for a while,

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Speaker 4: and it's just hard to see these golden opportunities slip

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Speaker 2: Look, injuries are part of the game. I get that.

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Speaker 2: I understand that. I think that the Detroit Lions did

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Speaker 2: but the pass rush that they had was never really

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Speaker 2: was never really solved. After Aiden Hudginson had that injury

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Speaker 2: had a great pass rush and it was shown last

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Speaker 2: night because they didn't put enough pressure on Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 2: They didn't put any pressure really at all on Jayden

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Speaker 2: Daniel last night, he was never even sacked. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: and that pressure or lack thereof, was a big factor

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Speaker 4: It does happen, and injuries are a part of the game.

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Speaker 2: feel about that. And I kind of alluded to Major

433
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Speaker 2: League Baseball back in the day when they had the

434
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 2: World Series. It was a big deal because those two

435
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 2: teams won for the National League one for the American League,

436
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 2: were meeting for the first time. They didn't have a

437
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: delete play. I think it was a different animal back then.

438
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 2: I think it was better. And the fact that the

439
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: Chiefs played the Texans earlier this year, I think it

440
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: takes away a little bit of the glimmer from the game.

441
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't predict who's gonna be in the postseason, right.

442
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 4: If that's the case, then you would never let them

443
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: play anybody. I mean, if that's what we're doing, Like,

444
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 4: and because the Texans are an AFC opponent, you can't

445
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 4: ban them from playing other AFC opponents. I could see

446
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 4: if we're talking about someone that was in the NFC

447
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 4: like an early on, but we're not doing that. Like

448
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 4: the way that it's set up. Yeah, you're gonna have

449
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 4: to play some rematches in those things. In rematches can

450
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 4: be interesting because it's hard to be the same team twice.

451
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 4: There's a level of familiarity that you have to deal

452
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 4: with and the adjustments and all of those things that

453
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 4: come along with it. It's very tough if you're the

454
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 4: Texans or can't see the Chiefs to kind of square

455
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 4: off against this team that you faced just a few

456
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 4: weeks ago. But it happens. And that's just kind of

457
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 4: the way that the cookie crumbled for the Texans. And

458
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 4: we could talk about all that, but ultimately, man, the

459
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: Texans were rude the day that they gave away a

460
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 4: game to the Kancity Chiefs that they dominated. I mean,

461
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: you just look at the way that they dominated on

462
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 4: paper yardage, didn't turn the ball over. Look, I think

463
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 4: it's the first time that someone has outgained the opponent

464
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: about one hundred yards and didn't have a turnover in

465
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: the postseason yet lost. I think the teams before, yes,

466
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 4: they were forty six and zero in Di's kind of situation. Man,

467
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 4: I just know it's gonna be some sleepless nights for

468
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 4: Damiko Ryans and a staff because this is one that

469
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 4: was well within their grass. They just couldn't get it done.

470
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that because obviously the final was

471
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: twenty three to fourteen Kansas City, but it was the

472
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Speaker 2: Texans defensive end Will Anderson Junior. He said that he

473
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: thought the referees were against his team yesterday in that game,

474
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Speaker 2: and I'm saying, wait a minute, I get it. After

475
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: the game, you're upset, you say things maybe you wish

476
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Speaker 2: you didn't say. But look, the problem was that CJ.

477
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: Stroud had a career high twenty three pressures yesterday. He

478
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: was under pressure almost on every single drop back, and

479
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: the pressures led to eight sacks, and that Tide of

480
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: career high that was set way back in Week nine

481
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 2: against guess who, the New York Jets, of all people.

482
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it was unreal. They were just outplayed. And

483
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: on the defensive end, I mean, seriously, Kansasity just put

484
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: so much pressure it was ridiculous. I mean almost on

485
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: every single play he had no time to get rid

486
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Speaker 2: of the ball, and I didn't hold the ball that long. Look,

487
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Speaker 2: I just have to say, also, I just think the

488
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: better team won. So for Will Anderson Junior to come

489
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: out there and say the referees took the game from them,

490
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: I just I know you're upset, and you know, I

491
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: just don't think that was the right thing to do.

492
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Speaker 4: Andy, you watched that game, you didn't feel like there

493
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 4: are a couple of questions.

494
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: A couple of questions.

495
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: Went went the Chiefs way. I mean, so for me,

496
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 4: you have to remember, like I'm a Carolina guy. I

497
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 4: went to UNC Chapel Hill. So I've seen this movie

498
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: before where it reminds me of Duke basketball. When they

499
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 4: were rolling and they were good. It appeared that they

500
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: always had eight guys on the floor. It was the

501
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: five guys and then the three referees just seemingly made

502
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: calls that always kind of fell in their favor. That's

503
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 4: what the Kansas City Chiefs tend to benefit from. If

504
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: the call is questionable, it just appears that it always

505
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 4: goes in their favor. Whether it's the questionable late hit

506
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 4: personal foul that Will Anderson got early in the game

507
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: that led to an extension of the drive that resulted

508
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: in three points. Whether it's Pat Mahomes and it is

509
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 4: Tom Foolery where he's running around as a quarterback outside

510
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 4: of the pocket, then at the last minute before he's

511
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 4: about to get hit, he falls to his knees like

512
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: he's sliding and they get another fifteen yards. Or Pat

513
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 4: Mahomes getting close to the sideline but rather than accelerating

514
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 4: out of bounds, he deliberately pumps the brakes. It kind

515
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: of allows people to bump into them. There are a

516
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 4: lot of things that took place yesterday where I could

517
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: see what Will Anderson and some of his teammates we're

518
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 4: have an issue with some of the officiating that didn't

519
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 4: go their way.

520
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: I understand that and that's going to happen. But I

521
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: love what the coach of the Texas De Meca Ryan said.

522
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: He said that there was basically some self inflicted mistakes

523
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: that his teammatee and special mistakes on the special teams.

524
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: They made some critical mistakes. So look on the game's

525
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: opening kickoff, they gave up that sixty three yard kickoff

526
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: return to the Kansas City Chiefs and that led to

527
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: the field goal. So I think that, yeah, there's some

528
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: questionable calls. And in the third quarter that unnecessary roughness

529
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: penalty that put the Chiefs of twenty twelve. After that

530
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: extra yards were given on that penalty. I see that,

531
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: but sometimes you do it to yourself, the self inflicted penalties.

532
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: They played sloppy football, they really did.

533
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: They did play softee football. I agree with you there.

534
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: They didn't help themselves with the way that they managed

535
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 4: the kicking game. The third phase of the game, which

536
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 4: is very, very important, that showed up and that's really

537
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: one of the main reasons why the King City Chiefs

538
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: were able to win. The dominance that the Chiefs had

539
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 4: in the kicking game was game changing. It created a

540
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 4: huge point differential between the Chiefs and their opponent. Big

541
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: kickoff return, miss field goal, miss pat block field goal,

542
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 4: that's a lot. That's a lot in a closed game,

543
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 4: and so we can talk about you dominating the game

544
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: on paper with all of the significant yardage advantage that

545
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: goes in your favor. But man, you left the door

546
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: open for the Chiefs to win the game. You didn't

547
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 4: finish it. And that's ultimately on the Texans, even though

548
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: the officials certainly teed it up on a platter for

549
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: the Kancity Chiefs.

550
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: I would say this, I think you know as well

551
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: as anybody else, you play the game. It's a game

552
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: of emotion. So the Texas come up in the second half,

553
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: open the second half, Joe Mixon comes out of scores

554
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: a touchdown, and they mixed the extra point that would

555
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: have tied the score thirteen. I think that took a

556
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: lot of the air out of the balloon, it really did.

557
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: You get that game tied. Next thing, you know, who

558
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: knows if they came out like ready to fire at

559
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: all sin they look great. They look great at the

560
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: beginning of the second half. And Joe Mixon, who was

561
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: hurt and there was some questions if you was either

562
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: to play or not, he came out looking really good,

563
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: came out scoring that touchdown and so oh, here we

564
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: go again. And then the next thing, you know, the

565
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: ear was let out of the balloon. That the lack

566
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: of kicking, the extra points that were missed, and the

567
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: block that that's devastating. It really is takes a lot

568
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: out of a team.

569
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: It did take a lot out of the team. And

570
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: you just think about those little things in a close game,

571
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 4: how they just gave away those those points, and you know,

572
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 4: you just you just regret it, man, I mean, you

573
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 4: just live with that regret knowing that you had an

574
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: opportunity to do something to knock off the champs in there.

575
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: You had it go on your way and you just

576
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: couldn't finish it.

577
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: Okay, thinking about finishing, Let's talk about this now, because

578
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: it's a big deal about you know, the betting angle

579
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: of the game. Okay, the Kansas City Chiefs that had

580
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: an eleven point lead, they blocked the field goal of

581
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: ten kandasity got the ball back about a minute and

582
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: a half to go in the game, and the Chiefs

583
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 2: did not kneel on the ball to knock out the clock. Okay,

584
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: they had the Chiefs having Kareem Hunt running on the

585
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: first down, it wouldn't be a big deal. But the

586
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: Chiefs won by two scores. They got that safety for

587
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: two points. It was a key sequence because the points

588
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: spread for the game ended at the Chiefs at nine

589
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: and a half according to sports Line. All right, this

590
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: spread opened at the Chiefs minus seven and a half

591
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: and spent It was going back and forth most of

592
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: the week seven and a half, eight and a half, whatever.

593
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: It was, So obviously it was a big deal. And

594
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: then Joe Buck and Troy Aikman talked about that right

595
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: after the deal was done, which was surprisingly Look, I'm

596
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: not saying anything was done as far as moneis and

597
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: betting and things like that. It's a bad look. It

598
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: was just a bad look. I get it. And I

599
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: just don't think Kansas City wanted to give the ball

600
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: back to the Texans. I get it. It's part of

601
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: the game, but certainly was a bad look. I put

602
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: a bad taste in the mouth of many betters, don't

603
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: you agree?

604
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, But ultimately, NFL teams and coaches don't call games

605
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: for the betters. You hope it, and when you make

606
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: that bet, that's part of the deal. You make the

607
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: bet knowing that you're going to have to live through

608
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: some of these tough moments at the end of games

609
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: because just this the nature of the betting world, and

610
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: when you lose a bet like that as a beat

611
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 4: goes bad, Yeah, that's tough and it's not a great

612
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: look per se, but it's also not one of those

613
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: things that you can go in and regulate. Coaches are

614
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: going to coach, and they coach independent of the gambling line,

615
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: and that's what any reading their staff are going to do.

616
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: They're going to continue to do that. So if you're

617
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: going to bet and make these kind of best you

618
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: got to be able to live with it.

619
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Speaker 2: I'm hearing you're saying. I tell you why. I think

620
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: you got to give a little praise to Travis Kelseley.

621
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey last night. And obviously there was some questions

622
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: during this season, has he lost his step as he

623
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: getting old? He came back. It is the playoff Travis

624
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: Kelsey and it was really he was tremendous. He had

625
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: his ninth career one hundred yard receiving game. It was

626
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: a big knife for him a game when he touched

627
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: down catch after the Texans had gotten to within one

628
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: point of the Kansas City Chiefs. He cut seven passes

629
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: season nine hundred and seventeen yards. And I don't understand

630
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: how this guy has always opened. You know that he's

631
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: the number one target for Patrick Mahomes. How does he

632
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: always get open? Tell me you're a defensive guy. How

633
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: does that happen?

634
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: I don't really know how it happens, right, I don't

635
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: know how teams continue to get hit with the right

636
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: hand when the Kansa the Chiefs have shown you year

637
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: to year their best offense is an offense that features

638
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: Travis Kelces the number one option. And since the departure

639
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 4: of Tybreek Hill has become even more apparent that the

640
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: ball is going to number eighty seven in any pressure situation,

641
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: red zone. Two minutes in the half game on the line,

642
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: the ball is going to eighty seven. Yet another week

643
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: goes by and we continue to watch these teams leave

644
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey completely wide open. Pat Maholmes had one hundred

645
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: and seventy seven pass yards. Travis Kelce was responsible for

646
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventeen of those yards. It just goes

647
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: to show you that the number one option, an older

648
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: number one option, continues to get it done. Maybe it

649
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Speaker 4: speaks to the greatness of Travis Kelce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably does. Now I want to talk about

651
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: the special teams. We're not really that special. For the

652
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: Houston Texans last night games started, they allowed a sixty

653
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Speaker 2: three yard part returned that turned into a seventy eight

654
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: yard gain. There was an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Now this

655
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: was interesting. I didn't see anybody come to the defense

656
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: of the coach. All right, Chris Boyd committed to penalty.

657
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: Then he shoved a special teams coach, Frank Ross, on

658
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Speaker 2: the sidelines. That was shown on TV. And here's the deal.

659
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Speaker 2: I get it. You have words with your coach. Maybe

660
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: you're on a national stage. Everybody's going to see this.

661
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: I know it's emotional. Why would you shove the coach?

662
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: And why was there no response after that happened. It

663
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: was like, no, biggie, he shoved the coach. No one

664
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Speaker 2: came to the coach's defense, No one did anything. It

665
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 2: just happened. Have you ever seen anything like that before?

666
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Speaker 4: Not escalated to push him, but in the heated moment,

667
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: things happened, and a very emotional Chris boy thought that

668
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Speaker 4: he had made a game change in play. Part of

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Speaker 4: why we saw him through his helmet. People have talked

670
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Speaker 4: about it being like a level of frustration. I saw

671
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Speaker 4: it as more of a guy that was celebrating. If

672
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: you saw the way he took it off in those things,

673
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: he was celebrating the big play that he made because

674
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: he thought it was a game changer. However, when the

675
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: special teams coach corrected him as he should have, Boy

676
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: was at an emotional fire pitch when he responded, and

677
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Speaker 4: I think if you ask Chris Boyd right now, he

678
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: would say, Man, I regret that I didn't even know

679
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Speaker 4: what was going on. I blanked out in terms of

680
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: what happened and the amount of emotion that I poured

681
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: into this thing. And it's unfortunate, and for the Texans

682
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: in game, you have to handle it the best that

683
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 4: you can. I am sure there was a conversation about

684
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: it today and I'm sure that there will be some

685
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: consequences down the road for Boy. But it's one of

686
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: those things in the game, and we talked about this

687
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 4: anything that happens in the game. Look, his business is

688
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 4: never personal. So if I bark at you, if I

689
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 4: yell the scream or whatever it is, just know it's

690
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 4: not coming from a place where I don't respect your value.

691
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 4: It's just that in the professional environment in that moment, Man,

692
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: I'm upset, so I'm gonna let you know, maybe Dimenka,

693
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: Ryan's and company. You have shared those sentiments with the team,

694
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: and they're okay with it being a little confrontational at

695
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Speaker 4: times on the sideline.

696
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like you and me on this show,

697
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: really when you think about.

698
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Speaker 4: Me, kind of yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know,

699
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 4: though I would hate for you behind the wrong end

700
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Speaker 4: of the shove, though I used to. I guess he

701
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: was all good into the guest shoves, and then that

702
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 4: made him change his mind in terms of how hard

703
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: he was gonna correct him.

704
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Speaker 2: There you go. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm any Firmer. We

705
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Speaker 2: are Fox Football Sunday and Fox What's ready? Just call

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Speaker 2: him the answer man, It's Bucky. Here's next. You're listening

707
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Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio Radio as Bucky right around the

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Speaker 2: Corner's about eleven minutes time before the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Southy and Foxbot's ready. He's Bucky

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00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: Brooks and Andy Furman and we are live for the

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Speaker 2: ti rack dot Com studios, and away we go and

712
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: ask Bucky and uh, let's do it. Aaron Rodgers, Bucky.

713
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers says his future hinges on. Get this, a

714
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: new general manager and a new head coach. Who in

715
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: the hell does he think he is? Really?

716
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: Come on, really, he's Aaron Rodgers, who's always been that,

717
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: who's always had an overinflated view of himself, and we've

718
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: played into that as media types. Four time VP, we

719
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: give him certain allowances that we don't give others. Look, man,

720
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 4: he's coming off a bad year. He's coming off two

721
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 4: years where he gave the Jets absolutely nothing. For him

722
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 4: to think that he's maybe entitled to continue to stay

723
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 4: on as his quarterback to me is laughable.

724
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: Now when he says something like that, I said he

725
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: may play next year if in fact he likes a

726
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: GM and head coach, does that mean he wants to

727
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: have input on the GM and head coach.

728
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 4: He could want to have whatever he wants. But if

729
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm the general manager, I'm not consulting with Aaron Rodgers.

730
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers at his max is just another one year

731
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: rental for the New York Jets. I'm not investing a

732
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 4: lot of time and energy into what he thinks in

733
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 4: his opinions, if.

734
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Speaker 2: He plays next year. I think they Jets have to

735
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: pay him thirty five mil, so it's unbelievable. He probably

736
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: will be back next year regardless of what the GM

737
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: and coach is. All right, your thoughts? Signer. NFL says

738
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna have a game in Madrid next year as

739
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: well as Europe and the play paid mixo as well.

740
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Speaker 2: Fans are gonna lose a whole game. What's your thoughts

741
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: on the NFL having these international games.

742
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Speaker 4: It's great. It continues to grow the brand, it continues

743
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 4: to stretch the NFL footprint overseas, and so that part

744
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: of it is great. It's hard on the players with

745
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: the travel, how you kind of manage getting over to

746
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: the destination and back. That can be tough on your

747
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 4: body as you have to go into another week where

748
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: you're playing. But I love it. I mean, you talked

749
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 4: about the Jaguars potentially being over there two times, maybe

750
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: three times given stadium situation. It's a part of growing

751
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 4: the game and if you ever have an opportunity to

752
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: go over there and watch an international game, I'm gonna

753
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 4: tell you, man rabbid fan base that enjoys all football,

754
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: regardless of whether their team is in it. They're always

755
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 4: going to show up for it.

756
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: I think the Cincinny Bengals may be online here to

757
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: play the Dolphins in Madrid next year. There's a possibility

758
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: that'll come out in a couple of weeks. I'm sure.

759
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: Now here's a quiz for you about your good friend

760
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Speaker 2: Deon Sanders. Give us three reasons why Dion Sanders should

761
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: coach the Dallas Cowboys, and give me three more reasons

762
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: why he should stay at Colorado.

763
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Speaker 4: Well, the three reasons why is look man, He's a

764
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: good CEO type leader. We have seen that demonstrated during

765
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 4: his time at Jackson State and at Colorado. He understands

766
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones and the brand. And make no mistake about it,

767
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: the brand is big. Deon Sanders understands he's benefited from

768
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: the brand and he is also a brand and so

769
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: if you're from a business perspective like it only elevates

770
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: you in terms of what you want to do. And

771
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 4: it finally, the ballpart. He understands ball, He understands how

772
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: to win and Dallas haven't been a Super Bowl championaire

773
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: that makes sense. The reason why it won't work, Deon

774
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: Sanders would lose some of the control that he had

775
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: at his situation in Colorado. He's the king in Colorado.

776
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: He makes all the decisions. There's nothing that happens that

777
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: it doesn't run past him. He loses that in Dallas.

778
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: I don't think the ROSTA is great. They can compete,

779
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: but I can't don't know if they can compete at

780
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: a high level. And then the final thing is a

781
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: lot different coaching NFL players as opposed to college kids,

782
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: where you still have an opportunity to mentor. I think

783
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: Deanverty likes that mentorship part of it. That's why I

784
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 4: don't think the NFL is necessarily a great fit.

785
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Speaker 2: I'm so happy in all those situations that you mentioned,

786
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: you never once mentioned money, which is great. All right,

787
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: Speaking of money, Los Angeles clip is owner of Steve

788
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 2: Ballman and his wife Connie did don any fifteen mili

789
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: in emergency funds for people affected by the LA wildfires.

790
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: Where is the rest of the NBA, NFL, Major League

791
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: Baseball MLS, and HL Where are they to put some

792
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: money up?

793
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: Now?

794
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: Come on?

795
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: I mean did Look? Everybody wants people to kind of

796
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: pony up and eventually some people will make contributions. Look,

797
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 4: I appreciate the bombers doing it. They've certainly been impacted

798
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 4: by it, so good gesture by them.

799
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Speaker 2: It really is okay. Which is bigger in the minds

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Speaker 2: of sports fans the division championship weekend, which I think

801
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 2: is the greatest weekend in football. Well, Monday Night's college

802
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 2: football title.

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00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: Game colleor football sider game has more significance and is

804
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 4: bigger amongst the fans because, look, every college fan wants

805
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: their team to hoist the trophy. So yeah, that's the

806
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: bigger moment.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. All right, he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Sunday. What was he reading that?

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Speaker 1: And more?

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Speaker 2: Right here on Fox Football Sunday. All right, who got

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Speaker 2: the best returns? We'll get to that in a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday

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Speaker 2: on Fox Borts Radio. He's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Firman.

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Speaker 2: He's the man, He's got it all. Mister Bucket Brooks. Hello, Bucky?

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm good, Andy. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Greatest weekend in football, isn't it? It really is best

824
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Speaker 2: weekend in football.

825
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Speaker 4: I mean it definitely is a great weekend. Definitely, no

826
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Speaker 4: doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: All right, And we want to get into some of

828
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Speaker 2: the games we got. We got a game today the

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Speaker 2: Rams Eagles. And the first question I have forew with

830
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: this Rams Eagles game. Why was Eagles wide receiver Aj

831
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Speaker 2: Brown reading on the sidelines and that twenty two to

832
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Speaker 2: ten win over the package last week? Do you have

833
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Speaker 2: any explanation? Because I did some research on the book

834
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Speaker 2: he was reading what it's all about. But I want

835
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Speaker 2: to ask you, have you ever seen anybody do that

836
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Speaker 2: on the sidelines.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen anybody do that, But I applaud him

838
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 4: for doing it. If it was if it was something

839
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: that was designed to help him keep calm and cool

840
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: in a pressure situation, I applaud him for that. We've

841
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: seen players use multiple things to try and keep their

842
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: minds right. In big pressure moments, whether that is meditating

843
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: on the sideline before games, after games, during games, whether

844
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: that is in listening to service, enlisting the services of

845
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: a sports psychologist to help them develop the cues to

846
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 4: move through these tough moments. He has certainly found a

847
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: system in terms of reading the book that helps him

848
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: navigate some of these difficult times that you may experience

849
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 4: in games. I know a lot of people made a

850
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: lot of us say that he wasn't reading whatever, But

851
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: you cannot have a tattered book with those kinds of

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00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: pages and notes without doing that in game. I just

853
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 4: think it's interesting. I think it's fascinating, but I think

854
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 4: it'll go a long way to having that conversation about

855
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 4: what do you need to do in game to make

856
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: yourself comfortable so you can be at your best.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was one of those guys initially say what

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Speaker 2: on earth is he doing? This guy's ridiculous. And I said, well,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, he was limited to one catch for

860
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: ten yards on three targets. He's probably all po And

861
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: they just said the heck with, and I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: a book out. And then I said, well, what book

863
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Speaker 2: was he reading? Well, the book was written by Jim Murphy.

864
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: It's a self help book, as you mentioned, and maybe

865
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: that's what he needed. And he says he's done it before.

866
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: He says the book gives him a sense of peace,

867
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: and he says he always does it. According to the website.

868
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: Check the website, the book helps train your mind for

869
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: extraordinary performance and live the best possible life. It helps

870
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: you perform with freedom under pressure. All things aj Brown

871
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: has done this year and some of the book's messages

872
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 2: per aj Brown are, if you have a clear mind,

873
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: then nothing else matters, negative or positive. Be willing to

874
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: take risks. If you're humble, you can't be a bear

875
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: to others. So no matter what happens, said aj Brown,

876
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: like in the game or whatever happens, just stay free

877
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: and you know what, God bless you, aj Brown. I

878
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: got a different perspective of this guy after I read

879
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: what he has done and the book that he wrote

880
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: that he read. I think it's great. I really do

881
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: so the coaches and no comments by the coaching staff,

882
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: which is great as well.

883
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 4: Well. Nick Sirianni defended this guy. He said, whatever players

884
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 4: need to do to put themselves in the right frame

885
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: of mind, they do it. For me, this is personal

886
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: because I've known AJ since he was a high school senior.

887
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 4: Having worked on the Nike Opening Camp circuit came across

888
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 4: AJ and an event in Atlanta. We've continued to stay

889
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 4: in contact, and for me, it's like watching a young

890
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 4: kid grow up in front of your eyes, like watching

891
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: him navigate the situations that Ole miss make his way

892
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 4: to the lead, become a two three time Pro Bowl

893
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 4: player and All Pro player. Yeah, I give him credit

894
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 4: for understanding what he needed. And also if you're dig

895
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 4: in his background, you'll see that he has had some

896
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: bouts with mental health issues and so for him to

897
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: find I would say, a healthy way to deal with

898
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: those things, to me, shows a lot of maturity, a

899
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: lot of growth on his part, and so I'm proud

900
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: of him for handling it that way.

901
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: Agreed. I'm with you. I'm in your corner. A lot

902
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: of times I'm not in your corner, but I'm in

903
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: your corner right now. And today, the fourteen and three

904
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: Eagles are hosting the ten and seven Rams in Philadelphia,

905
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: obviously three o'clock Eastern time, leaking financial And here's the

906
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: question right now, how could the Rams win this game? Well?

907
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: Number one. I think they got to try to stop

908
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: Sakuon Barkley back in Week twelve. Again, they played early

909
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: on I've in Week twelve, Barkley had a career high

910
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty five rushing yards and a win

911
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: for the Eagles. They won thirty seven to twenty. However,

912
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: I would say this, the Rams defense has improved in

913
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: the last four regular season games. They've allowed something like

914
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: thirteen points a game, So that's a plus. Jalen hurts,

915
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 2: He's been hurt a little bit. The passing game needs

916
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: to improve a little bit, but he's got the receivers,

917
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. He's got that concussion. He's been

918
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: a little bit off since the concussion to see what happens.

919
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: But I gotta believe right now, the Eagles just have

920
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: too many weapons on the offensive side of the football

921
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: for the Rams to handle them. I think the Eagles win.

922
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 2: Although the Rams have come back big time out of nowhere.

923
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: They were down on the Dulgums and they came back.

924
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: Give credit to Sean McVay did a heck of a

925
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: job this year.

926
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 4: He did do a great job. And what I love

927
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: about the job that Sean McVay has done is this

928
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: team was one and four, they were struggling, they were

929
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 4: scuffling when they got to the bye week, and they

930
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 4: just put their head down and they've reeled officers who wins.

931
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 4: I want to say maybe ten and thirteen games where

932
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: they are just I can't even say on fire. But

933
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: they have just embraced all fastest of their team offense, defense,

934
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: special teams. Getting the first year defense coordinator Chris Shula,

935
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: the grandson of Don Shula, has found a way to

936
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 4: take all these young pups on defense and put him

937
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: on the same page, put him in a scheme that

938
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 4: really helps them play fast, help them have a lot

939
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: of fun by being physical and overwhelming overwhelming foes Offensively,

940
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford continues to get his flowers because he is

941
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 4: one of the best quarterbacks that we've seen. We're now

942
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: seeing him paired up with a great play caller and

943
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: culture builder and Sean McVay, and as a result, we're

944
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: seeing him play at a level that many of us

945
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 4: missed throughout his time and tenure in Detroit. This is

946
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 4: an elite playmaker, elite passer, and he's finally getting his due.

947
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something. I've seen Chris Shula

948
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: on TV. And obviously I knew Dave when he coached

949
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: the Bengals, but I look at Chris. He looks a

950
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: lot like Don Shula. He really does good looking, doesn't he,

951
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: you know?

952
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: And it's like Don Shul in his bault more days, right,

953
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: he does the Baltimore Coast. There are some similarities in

954
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 4: terms of like the way that he look in this.

955
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. And they always say that sometimes

956
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: you have to skip a generation for success. You get

957
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: the jeans right, So maybe Dave didn't really have him

958
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: for me. Chris has him right. Think about that because

959
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: they've had some problems coaching the Bengals here, good guy,

960
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the should. As a matter of fact,

961
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: way back in the day, when I was working for

962
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: the Robbie family Joe Robbie and Liz and Joe owned

963
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins, I was doing the PR work for

964
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: their soccer team, the Fort Little Delle Strikers. I also

965
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: did some work with the Dolphins, and the late great

966
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: Charlie Callahan was the PR director of the Miami Dolphins.

967
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you when they call the news conference

968
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: and Don Shula was there and I go I mean,

969
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: you could hear a pin drop. There was like the

970
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: media was afraid to ask him a question. I mean

971
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: they really were. I've seen situations there with Bill Belichick.

972
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: They'll talk to Bill and Bill gave you the one

973
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: word answer. But it was a different animal with Don Shul.

974
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm telling you there was a feeling of respect as

975
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: well as fear. They really amazingly.

976
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he put that in you. And if you go

977
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: back and what I love is during this time of year,

978
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 4: you'll see the series of America's Game where they talk

979
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: about all the Super Bowl winners at the show on

980
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 4: the NFL Network and some other places. But to hear

981
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: those teams from the seventies, the Miami Dolphins, teams from

982
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: the seventies talk about playing for Don Shula is everything

983
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: that is good about football. The discipline, the detailed the structure,

984
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: how he handled it, the direct confrontations that he would

985
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: have with players to get the best effort out of them,

986
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 4: that old school coaching. That old school teaching resulted in

987
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 4: a ton of wins for Shula and why he's at

988
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: the top of the list when it comes to all

989
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 4: time victories. International football and he was just joined by

990
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: Andy Reid, who notes his three hundredth victory. And I

991
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: can tell you having played for coach Reid when he

992
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 4: was the tight end coach for the Green Bay Packers

993
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 4: and he was running the scout team that I participating

994
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: on as a defender, it is amazing the thing that

995
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: that guy, that same guy who used to hold up

996
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 4: the cards now has three hundred wins. Really just a

997
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 4: great testament to him, his growth, his leadership ability, and

998
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 4: as we're thinking about coaches in the coaching cycle, guys

999
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: who should be hired, it should be noted Andy ree

1000
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: was not a coordinator when he got the job in Philadelphia.

1001
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: He hadn't called plays, he hadn't coordinated in the offense.

1002
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: Yet Jeffrey Lewie saw the potential in him to give

1003
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 4: him the head coaching job at a time where it

1004
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 4: should have been viewed as controversial. He has proven that

1005
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: you don't have to come from the normal path to

1006
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 4: be a great coach in this league.

1007
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: Did you have any idea, any inkling that this guy

1008
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: do you working for on the scout team had any

1009
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: chance of being a head coach and being as successful

1010
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: as you were. Did you have a dream of him

1011
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: being the head coach.

1012
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: Look, no one could foresee that Andy ree would be

1013
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 4: one of the best coaches that we ever talked about

1014
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: on this staff. For Mike Hongreen, Andy Reid went from

1015
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: me in the old line tight end coach to then

1016
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 4: being the quarterback guru who would kind of just be

1017
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: the buffer between Mike Hongren and Brett favre To think

1018
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: that he has taken those roles and responsibilities and kind

1019
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 4: of baked him into the cake as a head coach,

1020
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: to be one of the best, if not the best

1021
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 4: head coach that we've seen in the minority. If they

1022
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: pour this thing off where they win a title and

1023
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: they go four and six years with five Super Bowl appearances, man,

1024
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: we could talk about the greatest ever, but that conversation

1025
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 4: will always have to include Andy Reid based on the

1026
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: success that he is having right now at this moment, and.

1027
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: Go back to the shoeless situation. I want to share

1028
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: a story with you. First of all, Mercury Morris is

1029
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: my guy. I love Mercury Morris. Yes, Okay, Charlie Callahan

1030
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: was the PR guy and this guy was like old school.

1031
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: He used to be the PR guy at a Notre

1032
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: Dame and the Robbie's. He loved Notre Dame de Late

1033
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: Joe Robbie, and he hired out of Notre Damecy. He

1034
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: became the first PR guy of the Miami Dolphins. What

1035
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: he did he used to write all the media guy's

1036
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 2: phone numbers on the wall in his office. He's sleep

1037
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: in his office. The guy is like he was et ceterac.

1038
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 2: But he was a great PR guy. And I learned

1039
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: a lot from the guy. Okay, So she had all

1040
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: the phone numbers on the wall, and all of a sudden,

1041
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: like they went on some sort of a trip or something,

1042
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: and he did an advance. He went to you know,

1043
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 2: back in the day, the PR guy would go to

1044
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: the city a couple of days in advance to advance

1045
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: the game. So when he came back, they painted his office.

1046
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: They painted up all over the all the numbers he had,

1047
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: He lost all his contacts. They painted the wall in

1048
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: his office. He went nuts. He went great. Yet every

1049
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: news to Miami Herald, Miami News, the Fort Lauda, Dell papers, everything,

1050
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 2: All the phone numbers were on the wall in pencil

1051
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: or pain on his wall. That's where he kept him.

1052
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: And then when he went back. When he came back

1053
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: from the road trip, they painted the office wall and

1054
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: it was gone. All his numbers were gone. It was

1055
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: it was his sight to see it really was kind

1056
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: of cute.

1057
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: Interesting. I mean, look that is that is that is

1058
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: an amazing story. The connection that you talk about having

1059
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 4: with the Dolphins. Don Shuetle Mercury Morris like one of

1060
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: my favorites. Obviously I was a kid when he was

1061
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 4: doing this thing, but to see the stories and to

1062
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 4: see how much he used to revel in the fact

1063
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: that his team continue to be the only unbeaten team.

1064
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: That crew, to me, always cracks me up when they

1065
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: celebrate after the last unbeaten unbeaten team, yeah loses.

1066
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: It's really it's really a something, all right. So we

1067
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: got now the game of the weekend Ravens Bills, and

1068
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: it's really not the Ravens and Bills. It's Lamar Jackson

1069
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: and Josh Allen. That's the game right there. And the

1070
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: Ravens beat the Bills in Week four again, you know,

1071
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: an early season game which really means nothing except for

1072
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: father for media people like us. The Bills won that

1073
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: game thirty five to ten. Don't know, the Ravens won

1074
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: that game thirty five to ten in Week four. I'm

1075
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: sorry the Bills offense. They have scored at least thirty

1076
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: points in thirteen games this year and the Ravens defense

1077
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: they've held them to twenty one points during the regular season.

1078
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: So does this game become a shootout at the defense struggle.

1079
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: I just got to believe that Derrick Henry and Lamar

1080
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: Jackson give the edge to the Baltimore Ravens. I get that. However,

1081
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: if the Ravens lose, and there's a possibility if they lose,

1082
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: I feel for Lamar Jackson because he's gonna at the

1083
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: rap He's gonna say the people will say he's a

1084
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: big stage flop and that's so bad, it's so poor.

1085
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: It's a cheap shot. That's basically what it is. And

1086
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: that's why I'm pulling foot Baltimore to win that game.

1087
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I think he's on the line for

1088
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: both guys. I will say this because Josh Allen has

1089
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 4: never been to a Super Bowl. We can talk about

1090
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 4: the talent, we can talk about all this stuff. He

1091
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 4: doesn't have the MVP Awards yet, but he's regarded as

1092
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: one of the most talented players that we've seen at

1093
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 4: a position. The Buffalo Bills have not been a Super

1094
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: Bowl under his watch. The difference is he comes into

1095
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: this game with a shorthanded roster, not necessarily due to injury,

1096
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 4: but just due to the talent that they have. It

1097
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 4: is inferior to the talent that the Baltimore Ravens have.

1098
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 4: Everyone is going to look at that and say that

1099
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson has everything he needs. He has a nineteen

1100
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 4: hundred yard rusher and two time NFL rushing champ Derrick Henry.

1101
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 4: He has a wealth of options around him that can

1102
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: make plays. Isaia likely Mark Andrews eight flowers if he's available,

1103
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 4: and the offensive line is rough rugged, they find a

1104
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 4: way to consistently get it done. And he's back by

1105
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 4: a defense that is playing lights out heading into the tournament.

1106
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 4: All of the pressure is similarly on Lamar Jackson to

1107
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: perform because they're on the road. He is potentially a

1108
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: three time MVP who hasn't been able to get his

1109
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: team to the Super Bowl. Yeah, there's a lot of pressure.

1110
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: There'll be fallout in those things. But I think if

1111
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: you talk about the pressure on Lamar Jackson, you have

1112
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 4: to talk about the pressure on Josh Allen. Even though

1113
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: the numbers will say coming into this game six touchdowns,

1114
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 4: six giveaways for Jackson, the numbers are completely lopsided. I

1115
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 4: think eleven touchdowns for Josh Allen, only two giveaways. Josh

1116
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 4: Allen has played well on these stages and they win. Ultimately.

1117
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 4: It's decided about wins and losses.

1118
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: Right, And it's a lot different than the Commander's game

1119
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 2: against the Lions, where certainly pressure on the Lions, bist

1120
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: have expectations. Not so with the Commanders. There really wasn't

1121
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: any pressure on then. As I say, playing with house money,

1122
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: this pressure on both teams right now, this pressure on Baltimore,

1123
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: this pressure on Lamar Jackson with that big stage thing

1124
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: hanging over his head, and this pressure on Buffalo because

1125
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: if they lose it and said, oh here we go again,

1126
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: this is the team that went the four Super Bowls

1127
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: and lost all fours. That's basically they're going to say. So,

1128
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's a great game, and I think it's

1129
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: going to be. It's gonna be handled, and it's gonna

1130
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: be settled on one miss que, on one mistake, on

1131
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: one interception, on one fumble, or maybe on a field goal.

1132
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 2: Do you agree something like that's going to affect that game?

1133
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, it always affects it, like they are

1134
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 4: always big plays that affect it. But I will say

1135
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 4: more than any of that, this game will be decided

1136
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: by the way Baltimore approaches this game. If Baltimore states

1137
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 4: true to the identity as a physical, smash mouth football

1138
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 4: team that is going to shove it down the Buffalo Bills' throats,

1139
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 4: they'll win, and they will win going away at the end.

1140
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: But if they try to use this game as a

1141
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 4: show and tail session for how far Lamar Jackson has

1142
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 4: come as a player passer, how much this offense has evolved,

1143
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 4: that's when the turnovers and the miscus can happen. But

1144
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: if they keep it simple and just say, hey, we're

1145
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 4: going to gut the Buffalo Bills by running right at them,

1146
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 4: they'll beat the Bills because they are the more talented team.

1147
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: And I tell you right now, I think that Baltimore

1148
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 2: will win this game. I think the score will be

1149
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: not as high as we think, but I think Bolton wins.

1150
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: I think they went by a touchdown. I really do.

1151
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: It's difficult. I mean, we didn't even talk about the

1152
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: fact that the game is in Buffalo, which creates an advantage,

1153
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: and they predict at least an inch of snow, and

1154
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: the wins in Buffalo right now, which affects the passing game.

1155
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 4: Is definitely affect the passing game. And it's gonna be

1156
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 4: a cold weather game supposed to be twenty seven degrees.

1157
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 4: The thing is Lamar Jackson is thirteen and two in

1158
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 4: cold weather games, games that are forty years below. He

1159
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: plays well in that. As a running team, this has

1160
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 4: been the conversation. No one wants to tackle when it's cold.

1161
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 4: The prospect of tackling a two hundred and fifty five

1162
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: pounds tailback in Derrick Henry and then having to chase

1163
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: behind a rabbit and Lamar Jackson is not an enviable

1164
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 4: task for the Buffalo Bills. This is gonna be a

1165
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 4: hard game. And I'm saying this because I truly believe it.

1166
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 4: If the Baltimore Ravens stay true to who they are,

1167
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't see them try and stretch and oh,

1168
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 4: let's go to displace in that place. But if they

1169
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: just keep it simple and run the football, run it

1170
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: with the creativity that they've done it, but continue to

1171
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 4: run the ball. They win because that's who they are.

1172
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 4: That's how they won, and that's how they won the

1173
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 4: first time they knocked them off.

1174
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: You know what's wonderful when you talk about basketball or

1175
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: college basketball, they'll talk about, well, the coaching advantage. I

1176
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: haven't here. I haven't heard that. I don't really hear

1177
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: that much in the National Football League, do you. I mean,

1178
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: we're talking about now, a great game, hopefully it'll be

1179
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: a great game the Ravens Bills. We're not talking about

1180
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: a coaching advantage, you know, and maybe there is a

1181
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: National Football League. I don't know, but that's not basically

1182
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: a factor, is it. I mean, it's all about personnel,

1183
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: and more often it's all about the quarterback. Who has

1184
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: the stronger quarterback and usually that team wins. Right, forget

1185
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: about the coaching.

1186
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 4: Coaching does matter. Coaching matters in a very serious way

1187
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 4: because the coaching part of everything is make sure the

1188
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 4: team is prepared, giving them a game plan and really

1189
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 4: focusing on hey this, make sure we do the things

1190
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 4: that we do really well. Just keep it simple. In

1191
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 4: terms of that regard, we talked about the kan City

1192
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: Chiefs and how the kan City Chiefs are able to

1193
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 4: do it over and over again with Travis Kelce dominating. Well,

1194
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 4: why is that? Because the chiefs are like, we've used

1195
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 4: this formula forever and it's been successful, and until someone

1196
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 4: shows us that we can't do it, we're going to

1197
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 4: continue to do it. So I dig it.

1198
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'm hearing you say. And he was successful in Philadelphia. Obviously,

1199
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: Andy Reiding successful in Kansas City as well. But again

1200
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: it's the personnel. We've seen coaches flop. You know, if

1201
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: I have a bad personnel. Look, let's look at the Raiders,

1202
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: you know, I mean there's no quarterback. With no quarterback,

1203
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: the chances of you're winning a very slim, just just

1204
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: the way it is the nas A Football League. Without

1205
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: a quarterback, you're not going to win. We've seen that,

1206
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: and I don't know why teams do not zero win

1207
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: on that because without the quarterback, you're doomed.

1208
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 4: You really are, Yeah, you are, You are doomed. It

1209
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 4: is one of those things. You got to have the quarterback,

1210
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: you need to have the coach, and you gotta have enough.

1211
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 4: You gotta have enough talent to win. But ultimately the

1212
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 4: coach's job in the National Football League, it's a play league.

1213
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 4: But my job is to give you the tools to

1214
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 4: be able to be successful. Whether that's game planning, whether

1215
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 4: that's solving problems on game day. My job as a

1216
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 4: coach is to do that for you. And then your

1217
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 4: job as the talented players man, you got to go

1218
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 4: win it. When we have opportunities, you've got to execute

1219
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 4: the plan and you got to make the plays that

1220
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 4: are right there. You don't have to be a superhero,

1221
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 4: but you certainly have to be good enough to take

1222
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 4: advantage of the things that are there, because that's what

1223
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: it's about.

1224
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad we're talking about quarterbacks for a

1225
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: second here because I want to talk about this dilemma.

1226
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: And the dilemma is the Deshaun Watson situation. Cleveland Browns

1227
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: right now, they're going to the offseason now, they have

1228
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: the second overall pick in the draft of April, and

1229
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: they got eight more picks after that. But they got

1230
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: an expensive situation according to their quarterback on surrounding their quarterback,

1231
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson signed the five year deal two

1232
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: hundred thirty million dollars, fully guaranteed, fully guaranteed back on

1233
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. He recently reruptured his achilles after tearing

1234
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: it during the season. He's coming off a third straight

1235
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: disappointing season in Cleveland. He still owed ninety two million

1236
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: dollars over the next two years. Remember this, though, he

1237
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: did lead the NFL and passing back in twenty twenty

1238
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: with over forty eight hundred yards. What do the Cleveland

1239
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: Browns do? They have a DeShawn dilemma? What happens now?

1240
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 4: Oh, it's done. I mean, if anything, like the decisions

1241
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 4: that you have to make andy when it comes to

1242
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 4: your team, you have to do it independent of the

1243
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 4: money that you pay the players. Once the players are paid,

1244
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 4: they're paid. But the decisions that you make about who

1245
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 4: is on the field is the best players have to

1246
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: play and Kevin Stefanski and the Browns have to get

1247
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 4: back to that. It is very obvious. It's very apparent

1248
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 4: that Deshaun Watson hasn't been the best player to play

1249
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 4: for them at quarterback. Well, now that he has ruptured

1250
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 4: his achilles twice, it actually gives you the freedom to

1251
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 4: do what coaches should do anywhere, play the best players,

1252
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 4: and so they'll find another quarterback. They'll find someone who

1253
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 4: can play the position. Kevin Stefanski will take the play

1254
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: sheet back after frying Ken Dorsey, and the Browns will

1255
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 4: look like the Browns that we've seen for parts of

1256
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 4: the Kevin Stefanski tenure. They'll get back to doing that. So, yeah,

1257
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 4: the money will be the money, and everybody loves to

1258
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 4: talk about the money. But if you're Kevin Stefanski at

1259
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 4: the front office, our job is winning and we have

1260
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 4: to worry about putting the best team out there and

1261
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: not Deshaun Watson's feelings. To me, I don't think Deshaun

1262
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 4: Watson plays again for the Cleveland Browns. He'll well, maybe

1263
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 4: try and resurrect his career elsewhere. But if you're the

1264
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns and you've done this experiment for three years

1265
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 4: and you look at where you're at, man, there's no

1266
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 4: way that you can try him out there as a

1267
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 4: starting quarterback because he hasn't earned it. And everyone in

1268
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 4: the locker room will tell you that he hasn't earned it.

1269
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: Supplies to Kevin Stefanski survived in Cleveland.

1270
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 4: No, he's a two time Coach of the Year. They

1271
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 4: understand what they're doing. It they made they made a

1272
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 4: calculated gamble when it came to Deshaun Watson. It didn't

1273
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 4: work out. You have to take swings at quarterback position, because,

1274
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 4: as we're seeing in the tournament, you have to have

1275
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 4: a quarterback to have a chance. In the AFC, in

1276
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 4: particular where you have Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes,

1277
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, on and on and on and on.

1278
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 4: If you do not have an elite quarterback, you don't

1279
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 4: have a chance. They tried with a Pro Bowl quarterback

1280
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 4: in Deshaun Watson, but Deshaun Wasson hasn't been the same

1281
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 4: player since he took the sabbatical in Houston. The best

1282
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 4: thing that you can do is call a spade a spade.

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Speaker 4: It didn't work out. Let's move on. That would be

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Speaker 4: the best course of action for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Yet to go. We're gonna move on as Wealthy's Bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Get him on the X at Bucket Brooks. Mike Harmon

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Speaker 2: joins us an hour three, That will be eight o'clock

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Speaker 2: on the East coast. Get him at Swollen Dome on

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman at and Deferman FSR calls will always welcome

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Speaker 2: an eighty seven to seven ninety nine on Fox. If

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Speaker 2: you can't figure that out, it's eight seven, seven, nine, nine,

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Speaker 2: six sixty three sixteen And in this hour we're gonna

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Speaker 2: put bottom barrel betting on the shelf. This week we

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Speaker 2: have a tribute to Bob Youuker. I think you'll enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: But right now, well, success is free. We'll explain that next.

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Speaker 2: Who said they're forgotten? We'll get to that in just

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Speaker 2: about a minute. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman,

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Speaker 2: and we are Fox Football Sunday. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: we're lyve from the t iraq dot Com studios and

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, shortly after the show, our podcast

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Speaker 2: will be going up. Now. If you missed any of

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Speaker 2: today's show, shame on you, and be sure to check

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Speaker 2: out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Readio wherever you

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Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and be sure to follow, rate and

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Speaker 2: review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Readio wherever

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Speaker 2: you get your podcast. You'll see this show Fox Football

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01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: Sunday right after we get off the air. Now we

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Speaker 2: talk about Bucky Brooks as a coach, a teacher, NFL player, scout,

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Speaker 2: a writer NFL dot Com. I love doing that. And

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Speaker 2: this week you wrote about and I said success is free.

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Speaker 2: The top free agents that help teams get to the

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Speaker 2: divisional around this weekend. So I got to ask you

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Speaker 2: the top ten and how did you rate them by

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Speaker 2: player performance or by the results of their team? Which

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Speaker 2: is difficult to that, I would think.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a combination. Is a combination of team performance,

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Speaker 4: talent on the roster, and the way that they're trending

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Speaker 4: in the tournament, either heading into the tournament or while

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Speaker 4: they are in the tournament. All those things matter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, I said, coming into this segment, who said

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Speaker 2: they're forgotten? I'm talking about running backs? You got the

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Speaker 2: top ten? Can you believe three other top ten or

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Speaker 2: running backs on your list are the top free agents

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Speaker 2: coming into the playoffs this year? It's amazing, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: How did they let them go?

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, you gotta remember, man, the position wasn't

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Speaker 4: viewed as a marquee position. It was a position that

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Speaker 4: people were talking about was devalued. You can find anybody,

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Speaker 4: and what this year has shown us, No, the running

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Speaker 4: back matters, and the better the running back, the more

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Speaker 4: balanced your offense is, the better your quarterback performs. And

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Speaker 4: with three of those guys on the list all veterans,

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Speaker 4: Sakwan Barkley, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs. It is something that

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Speaker 4: you have to consider and it's something that we need

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Speaker 4: to continue to look at. As you Gibbs played as

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Speaker 4: as it was the best player on the field last

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Speaker 4: night for the Detroit Lions, a first round pick that

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Speaker 4: Mini pooh pood when he was drafted. Running Backs are

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Speaker 4: critical and dependulum is swinging back into their favor after

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Speaker 4: seeing so many guys have positive impacts on the teams.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now you said the running back position was devalued,

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Speaker 2: and I agree with you, but I think it was

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Speaker 2: devalue not because they thought it was not important. I

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01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: think it was the valuables money was shoved over somewhere else,

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Speaker 2: which basically was the receiver. And it was a passing league,

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Speaker 2: don't you agree. I mean, I think coaches, a personnel

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Speaker 2: people really knew how important the running back position is

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Speaker 2: to control the game, to move the chains, to let

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Speaker 2: the clock run when you're leading, and to set up

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Speaker 2: the passing game through the run game. They knew that,

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Speaker 2: So it was devalue. There's some money.

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Speaker 4: No, I disagree with that. I disagree with that because

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Speaker 4: two of the guys on the list were dismissed by

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Speaker 4: their teams. Sakuon Barkley and anyone that watched the Hard

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Speaker 4: Knock series heard general manager Joe Shane for the New

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Speaker 4: York Giants. He was very dismissive of Saquon Barkley's in

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Speaker 4: to the team, so he obviously didn't value us a.

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Speaker 4: Kuon Barkley bought the fact that he goes to a

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Speaker 4: division rival has two thousand yards and here the rival

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Speaker 4: looks like a Super Bowl team. Yeah, that speaks to

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Speaker 4: how people on the inside viewed the position. Then you

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Speaker 4: talk about King Henry Derrick Henry was a guy who

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Speaker 4: defined the Tennessee Titans, two time rushing champ, a guy

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Speaker 4: who his physicality, his toughness were part of the identity

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Speaker 4: of the Titans. They dismissed him and let him go.

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Speaker 4: So that tells you everything. When you have two top

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Speaker 4: players dismissed by their teams because the teams didn't view

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Speaker 4: them as valuable anymore, and yet they have two thousand

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Speaker 4: yards and nineteen hundred yards respectively. Yeah, the position. And

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Speaker 4: I will say this because and I know the analytics

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Speaker 4: crow to get mad, but the smart yard, he's messed

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Speaker 4: it up. Everyone kept telling us that we could find

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Speaker 4: a running back anywhere. That was an inefficient solution to

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Speaker 4: a problem to pay the running back When we're looking

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Speaker 4: at the running back who touches the ball twenty to

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Speaker 4: twenty five times a game as a workhorse, they matter.

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Speaker 4: But they've told us that you can find him anywhere

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Speaker 4: in the draft. You can do it by a committee.

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Speaker 4: There's not much difference. But every defensive coach and every

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Speaker 4: defensive player will tell you there's a difference between the

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Speaker 4: elites and the guys that are just guys at the position.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think the position is devalued. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they were let go because they just didn't want them.

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Speaker 2: If I remember correctly watching Hard Knocks, I think the

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Speaker 2: question was can we fit him into our budget? That

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: was the question. With money. Money was the problem, okay, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean Sarah Henry and they thought there was no

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Speaker 2: stretch left on the tire with him at his.

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Speaker 4: Age, okay, So they didn't think that there was any

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Speaker 4: tread left in the tire, So you didn't value him,

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Speaker 4: so you didn't want to pay him what he's worth.

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Speaker 4: Obviously there's some tread on the tire. If he goes

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Speaker 4: for nineteen hundred yards. In Sakwan Barkley's case, it is

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Speaker 4: valuing the quarterback or the running back. They value Daniel

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Speaker 4: Jones since cut at forty million dollars a year as

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Speaker 4: opposed to being the running back twelve million a year,

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Speaker 4: even though anyone who looked at the Giants knew that

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Speaker 4: Sakwon Barkley was the straw to stirred to drink. Even

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Speaker 4: at his best, Daniel Jones had fifteen touchdowns and five interceptions.

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Speaker 4: So it is a situation where they didn't value the position.

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Speaker 4: They thought they could replace it. It was easily replaceable,

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Speaker 4: and the quarterback was more valuable to them. So as

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Speaker 4: opposed to grading the player for the talent that they bring,

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01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 4: they graded the position and the positional value, which is incorrect.

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Speaker 4: Players are different. Players have to be greater for who

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Speaker 4: they are and what they bring.

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Speaker 2: To the table, no doubt about that. And number three

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Speaker 2: on your list of the free agents was Sam Donald

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Speaker 2: Not a one year deal for ten million dollars. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you why. He probably let that go right out

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Speaker 2: the window the way he played in the playoffs, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's overblown the last two games were major,

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Speaker 4: major games, major moments. But at his lowest point, he

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 4: still won fourteen games. And I know people like to

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01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 4: have this weird relationship with quarterback wins in those things,

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 4: but he won fourteen games. I want to say he

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01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 4: had either twelve or thirteen games with a passer rating

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Speaker 4: over one hundred. He had a career year, phenomenal year.

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Speaker 4: And if you put him on the open market, he's

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Speaker 4: going to be gobbled up, and he's going to be

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Speaker 4: paid at a rate that is going to make people's

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Speaker 4: head spin. At a minimum, he's a franchise player at

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Speaker 4: forty million dollars annually. At a maximum, he gets close

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Speaker 4: to fifty million annually because it's a supply and demand business.

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Speaker 4: Some will say that he will grade out better than

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Speaker 4: any of the draft prospects in this class. Others will

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Speaker 4: say he's a top free agent on the market, and

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01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 4: in a league where you have Garner, Minshew and others starting,

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01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: there's a place for Sam Donald to start and a

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Speaker 4: place for people to talk themselves into saying he is

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Speaker 4: a top fifteen quarterback in the race system with the

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Speaker 4: Ray play caller.

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Speaker 2: All right, remembering mister baseball, that's next, all right, remembering

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Speaker 2: Bobby Yuka will do that in about two three minutes

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Speaker 2: from now, fifteen minutes before the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: He is my partner, Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Fremanwe a

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday and of course we're a life from

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Speaker 2: the tiraq dot com studios. Many moons ago when I

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Speaker 2: worked on radio in Cincinnati, WLW Radio, the home of

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds, had a chance to chat with Bob Buker.

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Speaker 2: He passed away the other day. Let's take a listen.

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01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: Joining us right now, the King of Milwaukee, Bob Buker. Yeah,

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01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 2: we're right here. And you know why, I want to

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01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 2: preface this. There are no gifts and nothing to be

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01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: getten from you for being on the air with me.

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01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: You know what. Having you tell me there's nothing involved

1448
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: outside of just a handshake is not very surprising. I've

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01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: watched you now for the last couple of days here

1450
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and just watching what you do, watching what

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01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: you wear, and watching your friends or those who you

1452
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: think are your friends, people laughing behind your back. But

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: for those people and your whole scenario, here were your studio.

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01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 1: This is a real nice studio in the back of

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01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: the toilet, down in the dugout and the Reds dugout.

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01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: Well, lucky we got that.

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01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I have no with it. I'm leaving.

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01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: You have to stay here.

1459
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I try to build you up the

1460
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: best I can. I mean, they once had a beer

1461
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: that made Milwaukee king, and I got to believe you

1462
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 2: are the king of Milwaukee, you and mister Belvidere.

1463
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Speaker 1: I do not need a build up. Let me tell

1464
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: you that. First of all, I do not need a

1465
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: build up. I enjoy myself each and every time I

1466
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: come to Cincinnati. I'm I'm a big fan here. I

1467
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: played here a long long actually sat here a long

1468
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: long time ago, and have seen Crosley Field and three

1469
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 1: Rivers or Riverfront and now this magnificent ballpark, great American Ballpark,

1470
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,879
Speaker 1: a beautiful place. And no, I like coming to Cincinnati.

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01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: I really I don't like you, but I like coming

1472
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. And that's I like, you know, Marty and

1473
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 1: Joe Nuxall and Stu and all the guys upstairs.

1474
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 2: Doctor Abramson.

1475
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: Rick Abramson is another guy that's not a friend of mine.

1476
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: I use him when I'm done using him for the day,

1477
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: I'm done with him. I have nothing to do with him.

1478
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: Once we leave the golf course and he picks up

1479
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: the check, we're free, you know.

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Speaker 2: And you're one of those few guys that well, really

1481
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: and truly you were much of a ballplayer, but you

1482
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 2: became bigger in life after you took the uniform off.

1483
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: How did that happen? Who'd you convince? Who'd you con

1484
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: for that? Probably?

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01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: I learned most of that in the service, joining the

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: service when I was thirteen years old because I was needed,

1487
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: getting out of school in the eighth grade and going

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01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: into the Army and becoming when I left the Army

1489
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: a full fledged four star general at the age of sixteen,

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: and then went on from there manual training, learned how

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Speaker 1: to take down trees and build tanks and stuff like

1492
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 1: that Bill Mount automobiles. Went on from there to learn

1493
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: acting on my own, and it shows.

1494
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 4: It shows.

1495
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: Lee Strasburg was one of our neighbors, and I told

1496
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: him everything that I knew. Of course, he went on

1497
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: to a major career in New York as a fine

1498
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: teacher of actors and actresses around the country. But no,

1499
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: you know what I just I tried to stay out

1500
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: of people's ways for the most part, which is one

1501
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 1: of the things that bothers me about you. Evidently I

1502
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: didn't stay out of your way, and you trap me

1503
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: into coming onto this show, which is I know is

1504
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: going to produce greater ratings than you've ever had before

1505
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: and it played again tomorrow night. I'm happy for you.

1506
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, looking at what you do around here,

1507
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: I can see why you're gonna need this show for

1508
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: two days.

1509
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: Maybe three, whatever you need.

1510
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 1: I know it's going to be good for you. And

1511
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, I hope your boss is at the station,

1512
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: if you do work for a station, or if this

1513
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: is just something that's being taped for playing the dugout

1514
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: here during the game. I'm happy for you.

1515
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 4: You know that.

1516
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm I've agreed to do your show, and the renumeration

1517
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: is going to be nothing. I was hoping maybe to

1518
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: get a tape of the show, but I see we're

1519
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: not being taped, so you know, whatever you want to do,

1520
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm game. And you know your family and your friends,

1521
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is all going to be good for them.

1522
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: Too, well.

1523
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: Bob.

1524
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,919
Speaker 2: You guys want to know how you parlayed that baseball

1525
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: career into a Hollywood career. You've been on the Tonight Show,

1526
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: You've been in the movies. How do you do that?

1527
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: Being a real bad ballplayer? That was the easiest part

1528
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: of the whole thing. I think there are a lot

1529
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: of times when I got off to good starts and

1530
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, what are you going to do

1531
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: after you finished playing? So I went right in a tank.

1532
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: I think anybody in the major leagues can hit, but

1533
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: for someone like myself to have the ability to either

1534
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 1: lift or lower the bat right at the point of impact,

1535
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: it takes a lot more skill to do that than

1536
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: it does to hit a baseball sooner or later. In

1537
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: the Major leagues, of pitcher is going to hit your bat.

1538
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: They have that kind of control. So for me to

1539
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: be able to lift it or lower it right before impact.

1540
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: I was a right handed didn't strikeout artist, is what

1541
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: I was. Fifteen of a game, you had the lead

1542
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: you needed and out. You couldn't take a chance on

1543
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: a grounder or a fly ball because somebody might drop

1544
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: it or kick it.

1545
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 4: I was your man.

1546
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: I could strike out and get the job done for you.

1547
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: Well, I know you're kind of putting yourself in a

1548
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: corner right now, and I don't want you to do that.

1549
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,440
Speaker 2: But certainly you're in the Hall of Fame, you're in Cooperstown,

1550
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: and well a thrill was that for you?

1551
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: I should have went in as a player. That's the

1552
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: one thing that bothered me. I went as a broadcaster,

1553
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 1: as did Marty Brenneman here and a number of other people.

1554
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: But I I was I liked it, it was fun,

1555
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: But I still think I should have gone in as

1556
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: a player. And you know what, maybe some some day

1557
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: down the road, who knows, once I take a dirt bath,

1558
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 1: maybe they'll go back and reconsider and and and maybe

1559
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: I'll go in. Then, you know, it's it would be

1560
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: a material to me at that time. But you know,

1561
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: if indeed, you know, one of these days now while

1562
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm still while I'm still on on top, so to speak,

1563
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: maybe to you know, I'm actually my plaque at the

1564
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is outside. I'm hoping that it's weathered now.

1565
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: It's been three years and it's pretty well beat up now.

1566
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: I was hoping one of these years they might put

1567
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: it inside. But it's around the back. If you ever

1568
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: get up there, it's around the backside of the uh,

1569
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: the building at Cooperstown.

1570
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: What does it like to be bigger than the ball club.

1571
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: You are basically bigger than anybody who plays with the Brewers.

1572
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm bigger than baseball. I'm not bigger than the club.

1573
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, every every team is good, and every team

1574
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: has great players. I think when the word baseball is mentioned,

1575
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: my name would automatically come to your mind. Unfortunately, people

1576
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: who think like that know nothing about baseball. But it's

1577
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: a good handle that I put on myself, and I

1578
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: think depending on who you do. I do that with

1579
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: a lot of people who don't speak English and people

1580
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: who are from other countries. I tell them and I'm

1581
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: mister Baseball, and I invented the game, and I played,

1582
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: and I own all the teams and everything like that.

1583
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: So it's something that comes very easy to me.

1584
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 2: Okay, the movie Major League, you were portrayed as an

1585
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 2: announcers not do that right? Yeah, I believe you are.

1586
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,440
Speaker 2: How did you take that into the booth here in Milwaukee?

1587
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: How do I take it into the booth?

1588
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: Do you use the same mode of announcing or you

1589
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 2: change your style?

1590
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: No, actually we use the booth. That's really observant of you.

1591
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 1: Well you are sharp.

1592
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying well.

1593
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: I cannot believe you actually knew that we use a

1594
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 1: booth to broadcast, but we don't down here, you know.

1595
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh it's good for you. I really I'm starting to

1596
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: enjoy this thing. I thought you were kind of dumb,

1597
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: but you're not. Yeah, the major League thing was, you know,

1598
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: to do whatever I wanted and just to make it believable.

1599
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,839
Speaker 1: And it's something that I do during our games in Milwaukee,

1600
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: depending on what the game is. I don't make fun

1601
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: of players. I don't do that, but yeah, I do

1602
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: a little comedy stuff if it need be, to keep

1603
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: people listening and keep things interesting and have some fun

1604
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: once in a while. But again, I got to go back.

1605
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1606
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 4: You're sharp.

1607
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: You really are. I cannot believe that you knew we

1608
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: were in a booth when we did that.

1609
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 2: I read up on it before. I got to admit that.

1610
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: Well, I don't care if you read up on it

1611
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: or not. For you to bring it up like that

1612
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: just out of the blue is totally amazing to me.

1613
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: You are. You are a lot better than I thought

1614
01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 1: you were.

1615
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 2: I got to leave you with this. I mean, I

1616
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: gotta believe it. Man, with your charisma, you're wasting your

1617
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: time at baseball. You should be in politics.

1618
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: I think you're wasting your time and what you're doing too.

1619
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: A lot of people have said that, you know what,

1620
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: that's not surprising at all. I think this is a

1621
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: waste of my time and yours. As a matter of fact,

1622
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thank you, Bob Youker.

1623
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: I hope you didn't waste your time with this. Bucky

1624
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 2: Brooks a little bit of a remembrance to the late

1625
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,919
Speaker 2: Bob Byuker missed the baseball, truly missed baseball.

1626
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, having grown up being a big time baseball fan,

1627
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 4: who doesn't know Bobyucker and his calls and his wit

1628
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 4: and his charm all the day came through in the interview.

1629
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 4: He's dismissive of you, Andy, but you're a good sport.

1630
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't much of an interview. I was like

1631
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 2: a punching bag and that's okay. And some people have

1632
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: asked me at the time, was that script that I said? No,

1633
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: I just stood there and he just beat the living

1634
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: daylights out of him. Maybe that's Bob Uker. And you know,

1635
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: after that, he sent me an autograph, big plaque of himself,

1636
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: which I still have. He's the act of a guy,

1637
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: and he was act of a guy. And he will

1638
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 2: be missed in Major League Baseball. He was the man.

1639
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: He was mister baseball.

1640
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 4: He certainly was mister baseball. He will be miss There

1641
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 4: we go.

1642
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 2: All right, joining us next the one and only swollen

1643
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 2: doll Mike Harmon here on Fox coming up next. Stay

1644
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: with us,