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Speaker 1: the episode.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, is this Therapy Gecko.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Who's this?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: My god? Uh, my name is Anna. Sorry, I'm just

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Speaker 2: like so nervous.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, don't be nervous, man. This is uh,

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Speaker 1: this will be fun. This will be a good time. Dude.

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Speaker 1: What's uh have we ever spoken before? Anna?

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Speaker 5: No, actually I have.

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Speaker 2: I have an interesting story to tell you about how

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Speaker 2: I was actually supposed to see you for the first time.

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Speaker 2: I was I was an electric forest and me and

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Speaker 2: like who we were going to see, and like we

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Speaker 2: I was like like who is this is like a

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Speaker 2: the reason also for my call is I kind of

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Speaker 4: I guess.

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Speaker 2: Long story short, we ended up taking too many mushrooms

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Speaker 2: and uh, I was just like tripping out way too bad.

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Speaker 2: I was too scared to see you, like you had

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Speaker 2: we missed your step, but we saw you. We saw

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Speaker 2: you the second night and it was amazing And I'm

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Speaker 1: You have a what on the guy? Coode get go.

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Speaker 2: So it's I think it started as like a crush,

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Speaker 2: but like I don't know what it is, Like I

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Speaker 1: Are you being one hundred percent serious with me right now?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm literally like I I my nickname is the

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Speaker 1: Hmmm. So you but so earlier you said it was

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Speaker 2: So like that's the thing, Like my boyfriend's like, do

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Speaker 1: What is it about him that you find attractive?

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Speaker 5: You know? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's his demeanor, Like he carries himself a

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I know this always sounds crazy. I have

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Speaker 1: Do you have an attraction to any other fictional characters?

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Speaker 2: No, No, just like and expect to saying like it's

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Speaker 2: not a weirdo. Okay, I'm not into like these reality

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Speaker 2: That's not what this is about at all, Okay, trust me.

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Speaker 2: It's just something about it him, just like.

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Speaker 5: Does it for me?

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Speaker 1: So you would So you're saying that you would go

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Speaker 1: M So it's just the guy co Gecko. Not like

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I I I do like lizards, like,

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to a therapist about this?

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Speaker 2: Therapy tomorrow morning, so uh, maybe I'll forget up. Maybe

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Speaker 1: No mm hmm, Okay, I think you probably should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think it's like that or I guess, like.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever have you ever in your life purchased

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Speaker 2: And I don't think I would, honestly, like I like,

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know. Sometimes they kind of it

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Speaker 5: Like, we gotta go.

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Speaker 1: So do you see any lizard like qualities in your

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: You know, the guy called lizard has a name, right, I.

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Speaker 2: Feel like I read it on like a Reddit thread

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: His name is Martin Martin.

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Speaker 2: Oh he doesn't really look like a Martin.

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Speaker 1: But okay, maybe you're just attracted to British accents.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like you know.

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Speaker 2: like his demeanor, like the way he carries himself very confident,

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Speaker 1: See, I feel like you could talk to your boyfriend

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Speaker 2: I really hope he uh he definitely. I think that

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Speaker 2: don't know. I feel like the General is creepy, but

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Speaker 1: Wait, So it's a deal breaker for him to like

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Speaker 2: I get that that sounds hypocritical, but like I get

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think guy co Gecko general role

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Speaker 2: I'll see where it goes from there.

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Speaker 1: What's your name again? Anna the Lizard King, Anna the

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Speaker 1: Lizard King. Hmmmmmmmm hmm. Well, I'm glad you liked the

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Speaker 1: Electric Forest show. You came to the second one? What

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Speaker 1: was what was going on? I forget.

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Speaker 2: The guy he ate his hit the ashes of one

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Speaker 1: He thought it was his friend's cat or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a good set, fun times good. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you liked it. I'll be back next to year hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome, I guess Also, real quick, I have a.

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Speaker 3: Question for you.

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Speaker 2: It's up hit hit, So, like like I said, after

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Speaker 2: Electric I've been like listening to you like all the time,

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Speaker 2: Like I love your show. There is no way you

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Speaker 2: I don't know whose identity you soule or whatever you have?

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Speaker 2: No, trust me? Like but I just like I like

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Speaker 1: How many how many guys wanted to fuck Lola Bunny?

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Speaker 2: Or wait, Jessica Rabbit?

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Speaker 2: Are I can't remember?

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Speaker 1: Uh and thanks for being very nice to me. I

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Speaker 2: Just I know everyone's doing great. So that's all.

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Speaker 1: I hope the guy co Gecko comes to you in

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Speaker 2: Ah, thank you. That's that's very sweet of you. Thanks, Thanks,

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Speaker 1: Have a good night, Danna, you too. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: trying to think Lola, Lola Bunny, every everyone, dude. Everyone

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: All from mission?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Hello, Hey, who's this?

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Speaker 4: I died on your stream a few weeks ago when

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Speaker 1: You died on my stream? What does that mean?

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Speaker 4: I was in the car and I cut out and

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Speaker 5: I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, Mason, Yeah, I remember you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you called in on the Dominic Fike stream. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: No, okay, that's uh like the Viking vikings side nor ship.

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Speaker 1: Also, why are you typing the entire Why are you

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Speaker 4: I'm playing an Overwatch comp Okay?

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Speaker 1: Can do? Would you rather? I have a genuine question

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Speaker 1: for you? And this is not I'm not saying this

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Speaker 4: I got through the therapy. Get go, I'm done playing

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Speaker 4: for a second. You know exactly what I'm doing. I

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Speaker 1: Well, what's what's up, Mason's anything in particular you wanted

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Speaker 4: No? Uh? Or we can we can go back into

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Speaker 4: I know, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna kill myseln

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Speaker 4: gust Okay, uh yeah, uh, I want to say I

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Speaker 4: And then I felt really bad. You felt bad, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well, I am short.

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Speaker 4: I know you, I mean, I know, but it was rude.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, you've paid for the ticket, you can do whatever

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Speaker 4: Why. I Well, that's the first thing I've ever been

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Speaker 4: Because like I like, I watched it, and like I

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Speaker 1: Yeah I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no shouts

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Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay, thanks for trying. That venue was

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, that was I'm first time I've ever been there.

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Speaker 4: That was really a really cool haul. The whole thing school.

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Speaker 5: That was the ship.

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Speaker 1: really it's an hour of totally uh improvised stuff and

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00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: sometimes it's fucking insane, oh yeah, and so magical, and

442
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: sometimes I struggle with it, you know, because I'm trying

443
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: to make it. I I'm trying to make it worthy

444
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: of people coming, you know, And there's a lot of

445
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 1: shows where I get off and I'm like, oh, that

446
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: was that was magical. I couldn't have even that's That's

447
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: better than anything I could have possibly written. And then

448
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: other times I'm like, well, that was a nice hour

449
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: of polite conversation. But you know, I don't know, it's

450
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: always a fun time. And then afterwards I meet everyone,

451
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: they're good, they're fun times. They're fun times.

452
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you'd been amazing because that was what

453
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: Detroit was one of your first few shows. It was

454
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 4: like the seventh or something.

455
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, great, thanks Bro, thanks Master. But after

456
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: every single one of them, I beat the shit out

457
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: of myself and I'm.

458
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 4: Like, as oh, yeah, I totally understand because it's just

459
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 4: so many people that you're sitting in front of trying

460
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 4: to entertain. You're like someone hated it. Someone someone hated

461
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 4: what I just said. I loved it. I betrayed again.

462
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: I will next year. I'm not going to do it

463
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: for an excer. And enough about me and my live

464
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 1: show show. Mason, what's up with you?

465
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: Man?

466
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: What what is it that you wanted to talk about

467
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: when I was on with Dominic and you crashed into

468
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: a wall?

469
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 5: Uh?

470
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 4: We were We're talking about how my brother was a

471
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 4: dick because when I went up Noors, a lot of

472
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: stuff was happening because I wasn't home, and I caught

473
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: him on a bunch of stuff. So I wanted to

474
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 4: talk about it to see if.

475
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 5: See what I should do.

476
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: How was he a dick?

477
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 4: So we like, I'll go back to how I practiced this.

478
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 4: We live alone, me and him. We have our house.

479
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 4: My mom passed away, so like we just got the

480
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: house and we both lived together, and he's just like,

481
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 4: he's just an asshole. I don't get it. So when

482
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 4: I went up north, I put a camera in my

483
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 4: room because I didn't trust him, and so he like

484
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 4: I caught him on camera going into my room and

485
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: just going through all my drawers and I called him like,

486
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: what are you doing? I'm just walking around and I'm like,

487
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: I can I see you. I know what you're doing,

488
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: and he like I saw him, like run out of

489
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 4: my room. And then he's older than me. By the way,

490
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 4: I'm nineteen, you know, I'm almost twenty. My brother's in

491
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: a few days, but he's twenty one. And so I

492
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: keep kind of like, he keeps doing shit like this,

493
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 4: and I catch him on camera multiple times going through

494
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: my room. So then I come back and we get

495
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 4: into this huge fight about what is it? He started

496
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: talking shit to me to his girlfriend, and I stay

497
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: in my room in the basement and he's on the

498
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 4: stairs and he starts talking shit about me to his

499
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 4: girlfriend right next to me on the stairs.

500
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: So what hold on, let's see what. Let's he rumbling

501
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: around your room for? What is he even fucking looking for?

502
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 5: Is he?

503
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 3: Like?

504
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: I like, I don't know.

505
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 4: He just wouldn't for anything. That even when I was younger,

506
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: he would steal from me all the time and gaslight

507
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 4: me so like I would lose, like, you know, like

508
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: twelve thirteen, I'd lose money like twenty bucks every now

509
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 4: and then. And he's like, I don't know, where it went.

510
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: And then he just admitted it to me. When I

511
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 4: was in high school, Yeah, I would steal money from

512
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: me all the time, and I was like, what the fuck?

513
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 4: So like, I don't keep any money here, so he

514
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 4: probably was looking for money or my car keys because

515
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: he wanted his car was destroyed and I left.

516
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 5: He was it's insane.

517
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 4: He's such a freak.

518
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: So, I mean, when you showed him the video footage

519
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: of him rummaging around your room, what do you have

520
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: to say?

521
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 4: He uh, he said, you've been through my room before,

522
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: which I needed his cars. He used to move his

523
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 4: car so I can get my car out of the driveway.

524
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: So that he comes up with excuses like that, So

525
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 4: for him.

526
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: It was it was a room for rooms situation.

527
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, so yeah, all right, all right.

528
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: All right Mason, what's the deal here? Okay, So your

529
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: mom passed away. I'm sorry to hear that, and she

530
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: left you this.

531
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 4: House mm hmm.

532
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: And uh is it is just you and your brother

533
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: living here?

534
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

535
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: And how long?

536
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: It's about a year now. My mom passed like a

537
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: year ago.

538
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: Okay. Is your dad still around?

539
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 4: No, he passed away like six years ago, Okay.

540
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: And then what's the deal like in the will? What? What?

541
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: What was the stipulation? Like, you guys like have half

542
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: ownership of the house.

543
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think as far as you know, we

544
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 4: both own half the house. Neither us can sell it

545
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 4: without the other one saying guests can't make any decisions

546
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: anything like that.

547
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: Well, well, why don't you just if you own half

548
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: the house, why don't you rent out? Why don't you

549
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: move out and rent out your room so you don't

550
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: have to live with your brother and let somebody else

551
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: deal with them.

552
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone, like, I don't know anyone that

553
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: would want to live here.

554
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: What you don't have to give it. You don't have

555
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: to give me the details. What city do you live in?

556
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: Uh, I don't give a shit. I live in Taylor, Michigan.

557
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 4: It's Taylor. We're literally called Taylor Tuckians. I don't I

558
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: wasn't born here, but that's the removed.

559
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: How close are you to Detroit? You're pretty I mean

560
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: you came to the church out. How close are.

561
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: You twenty minutes?

562
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: All right? Do you live in near any colleges?

563
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 4: Wayne State? Yeah? Wing States the closest, But I live

564
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: next to like an or like manw of them, the

565
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: Michigan and all those they're like twenty.

566
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I Here's what I'll say to you

567
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: is it's I mean, instead of just writing off the

568
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: idea immediately and not even trying it, like why don't

569
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: you look it up? You know, see if you can

570
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: rent out the room, because I mean if do you

571
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: have a job or are you in school?

572
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: So I'm like transitioning. I work in a factory right now,

573
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: but I'm starting like a a union job. It's a

574
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: midd right. They just it's like working on machines and

575
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: stuff in like the next few weeks. And I don't,

576
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 4: like I don't have the money to because I'm like

577
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: saving I'm saving money for rent and everything so I

578
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: can make sure I have somewhere to go, you.

579
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: Know, right, i'd see have a game plan.

580
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do have a game plan. So the whole

581
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: thing with this mill write stuff is you have to

582
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: like travel, So like I have to go to it's

583
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: called it's a a city cubed like Orange, and it's

584
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: like an hour and a half drive from where I'm at.

585
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: So my plan is and I work on this job

586
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: site for like three years, it's like some car battery

587
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: factory and we just build up the plant. Is that

588
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 4: I move halfway between. But the problems are like if

589
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: I don't if I don't stay here, my brother will

590
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: be homeless, like without a doubt. He he has like

591
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: a really good job, he's a welder, but he can't

592
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: save money. So that's something that like makes me not

593
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: want to move out because I don't want him to,

594
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: you know, end up being homeless.

595
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry I say that again. He oh,

596
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to pay the rents.

597
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wouldn't be able to afford like the mortgage

598
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: and everything.

599
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, to be able to afford the mortgage.

600
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: Well if he okay, well if he okay, well, my

601
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: my friend, if you move out and your brother won't

602
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: be able to afford the mortgage, then and here's I

603
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: don't like telling people what to do on this thing

604
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: because I'm but but brother, if and you should and

605
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: and you should talk to an actual person about this,

606
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: not me, because I'm no, no, I'm not even talking

607
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: about a therapist. I'm talking about like a like a

608
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: financial guy or whatever. Yeah, financial person, because if your brother,

609
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: if your brother is gonna can't afford to pay the

610
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: mortgage without you. Why don't you use that as leverage

611
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: to get him to sell the fucking house so that

612
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: you both can take whatever cash you can get from

613
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: that and not have to deal with each other.

614
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: Like why?

615
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: Like you guys, you guys, you guys are clearly butting

616
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: heads to a point where it's making it like not

617
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: good for either of you to be living together. So

618
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: why don't you both either sell the house or move

619
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: out and rent it out? Like why? Like, like why

620
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: is this situation just like forcing you guys to be

621
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: unhappy with one another, especially if you can't afford the mortgage.

622
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 4: Because I don't want a memby up home.

623
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: That's like how would he if but if but if

624
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: he but if you but if he sells the house, okay,

625
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: if he sells the house.

626
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 4: He's terrible with money. He has he makes like thirty

627
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: two an hour with his job with welding, and he

628
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: has no money. He can't save money. In the whole problem,

629
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: God is worried about him.

630
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: I will know, dude, that's that's sweet. That's really sweet.

631
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: That's really sweet. And I come and I want you know,

632
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: I want to commend you on that. I really I

633
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: commend you on that, because clearly your brother's been pissing

634
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: you off, stealing your stuff, talking shit about you, and

635
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: none the less, that's how good of a fucking guy

636
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: you are. None the less, you're very concerns about his

637
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: ability to handle money, and I respect that. I do,

638
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: because if if living with this if living with this

639
00:33:54,560 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: guy is making you unhappy, oh it's miserable, then then

640
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: you can't be responsible for his life. He's twenty, he's

641
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: and it's and it's a bummer matter. You guys have

642
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: fallen on some hard times. It's fucking hard that your

643
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: that your parents passed away while you guys were so young.

644
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: That's a that's hard. But you can't be bearing the

645
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: brunts of your brother if he's doesn't know how to

646
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: handle money. I want money, and he's fucking with you.

647
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 4: The whole thing I was waiting for was like he

648
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: like I could see that he's like he started making

649
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 4: more money and then I was gonna leave because that's

650
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: all I wanted. But like there's like, you know, like

651
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: why would I want to give up a house that's

652
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: a big one. I have a I have a house

653
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: that I can have, and he's always like, I'm gonna

654
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 4: move out in the next year. He's not gonna move

655
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: out in the next seven years. It's gonna be like that.

656
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: It's just like, there's so many benefits I have right now,

657
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: but he's just destroying all of them. And that's the

658
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: hard part because like the other day, we got into

659
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 4: a fight and he tried to get me to hit him.

660
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 5: That was his objective.

661
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm gonna get you to hit me, so

662
00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: you can't.

663
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: Call the cop.

664
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: No, man, no, do we talk? Do we talk to

665
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: another guy who was in a similar situation to this?

666
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 5: Really?

667
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked to another guy who was in a

668
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: similar situation to this. His was a little bit worse.

669
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: But dude, Okay, Mason's I'm gonna tell you.

670
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 5: Man.

671
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: First of all, i want you to know something I

672
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: want I want. I want you to know this more

673
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: than anything. The fact that your brother is consistently antagonizing you,

674
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: but yet you still love him and care about him

675
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: proves to me that you're a good guy. Okay, So

676
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: I want you to know that. I want you to know

677
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: you're a good guy, and I hope that you're not

678
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: being a good guy at your own expense. All right,

679
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: there's that ye and then two mm.

680
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 4: It's such a hard situation to deal with.

681
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 5: Right.

682
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: It it is. And I know you guys have fallen

683
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: on hard times and I know that. You know you're

684
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: fucking nineteen and having to navigate all this crazy crap

685
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: because of a tragedy that that struck you. And I

686
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: feel for that. But dude, if your brother, if your

687
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: brother is antagonizing you, trying to get you to hit him,

688
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: and shit, you got you gotta get out, dude. Yeah,

689
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: and so and if he's going to move out, and like, dude,

690
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: what's what's the what's the problem? What's the problem with

691
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: get rid of the house and taking the cash?

692
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 4: It's not much, that's the problem. Like we only lived

693
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 4: here for two years and it's like a thirty thirty

694
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 4: year mortgage whatever. So it's only like seven thousand dollars each.

695
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 4: And you know we put time and money into this house.

696
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: How much is the it's only seven thousand dollars each?

697
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: How much does she what's the don't they have to

698
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: put down like twenty percent of the valley of the house.

699
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: No, because she bought it. She bought it during like

700
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: an insane time in COVID. My mom bought it that

701
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: like the APR was so low for getting a house

702
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 4: that like there's no point it was like insanely cheap

703
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: for her to buy them. There's not like there's not

704
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: much to the house because I thought.

705
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: So she put she put down fourteen K on this house.

706
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 4: Like about that.

707
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

708
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: By the way, then the more the more the more

709
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: we go into depths on this, the more people are

710
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: going to understand that I don't know anything about fucking

711
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: real estate.

712
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 5: I don't know shit either. Yeah.

713
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're just two guys. We're just two guys

714
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: messing around.

715
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, two guys talking.

716
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: We're two guys messing around.

717
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 5: All right.

718
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: But dude, okay, so, and how much is what's the mortgage?

719
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: It's it's it's fucking cheap. It's like two it's two thousand,

720
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: like say, like two one hundred for that's for the

721
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 4: like internet everything, Internet.

722
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: At your way, fees and stuff. And this is Taylor

723
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: the but tit's Michigan. Yeah, all right, all right, so

724
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: you have all right, so you just got all right

725
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: so ship dude, I don't know, I don't know. I

726
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: don't know I'm not. I'm not listening. Listen, I'm not

727
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: Dave Ramsey. I don't know anything about I don't know

728
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: anything about this. Okay, you should. You should talk, and

729
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: you should talk to somebody who does pul talk to

730
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: somebody sense the financials about it.

731
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: If someone should, I should kick my brother's at. That's

732
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 4: what all people beat up your brother.

733
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: No, hold and stop her. There people who's telling you

734
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: to kick your brother's ass.

735
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 4: It's gonna be really fun. It's my aunt, both of

736
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: my aunts. You just so, why don't you beat the

737
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: shot your brothers?

738
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: Don't don't beat the ship, don't don't do that. Don't

739
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: do that. Whoever that, don't do that.

740
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: Because they're like, when we get into the place, you're like,

741
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: why don't just rock your brother ship? Made him say

742
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 4: it like that, But there, I'm like, there's no point

743
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 4: it's gonna make.

744
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: That's just that's just that's gonna make That's okay. I

745
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: don't know what to do for you, but don't do

746
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: that because that's gonna make your life a lot. Okay,

747
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: and you're you're too smart to be doing that. Fuck man, Okay,

748
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: I'll say this, and then I'll say this and then

749
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: we'll probably go. But okay, if you're not making a

750
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: decision about this because you're afraid that your brother is

751
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: going to succumb to his own bad spending habits, I

752
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: hate telling people what to do, but I think you

753
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: gotta let that go, dude, because you've got to live

754
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: your own life. And you can still you can, you

755
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: can still care, you can still care about your brother

756
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: and still love your brother. And I think you should

757
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: still care about and love your brother, but you can't

758
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: let that, you know, ruin your own life.

759
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's fair, because like, when I'm done with

760
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 4: all this stuff, I don't want to deal with him,

761
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: like I like, I don't want like, you know, maybe

762
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: Christmas whatever, but I don't, like, I don't really want

763
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 4: a relationship with them because of everything we've been here

764
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 4: and everything he's done. But like, I want to make

765
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: sure that he's I'm not going to see him just

766
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 4: like on the street at the point. I want to

767
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 4: make sure he can live to himself, live for himself.

768
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Here, do this printed print a picture of his face

769
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: and put it on a tree and hit the tree

770
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: with a stick. Uh, Mason, is there anything else you

771
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: want to say to the people of the computer before

772
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: we go.

773
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 4: Thank you for giving me this opportunity. Thank you for

774
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 4: giving Thank you for at least listening to me. That's

775
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 4: a you know, I needed a different opinion than what

776
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 4: I normally get of just beat up your brother, because

777
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 4: it doesn't it doesn't give me.

778
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm happy. I am. I think only person

779
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: you've talked? Who else have I'm gonna cut you off?

780
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: But who else have you talked to about this?

781
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: Like my boss at work, he's insane, but like he's like,

782
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: what did he what did he say to do? He's like,

783
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: I can get a guy, I can get three guys

784
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 4: to come to your house and rip out your brother's teeth.

785
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 4: He doesn't, and he's like he doesn't need cod And

786
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: he's like for five hundred bucks, And I'm you know,

787
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: that's like I want to see it. That's that's funny.

788
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: But like I'm like, is it worth it? That's my

789
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 4: boss told me that, and like, uh, like a lot

790
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 4: of my like older friends, so like I used to

791
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: work in a kitchen, he's like, just beat up your brother.

792
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, but it won't give me anything. He's like,

793
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: you'll feel better, but that's it. Then cold's gonna be

794
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 4: like my brother. I didn't mean to say his man,

795
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. He's gonna be constantly on my ass.

796
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: That's it. He's gonna try to fight me at any

797
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 4: point he can't.

798
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: Well, look at here's here's the thing. I'm I hope

799
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: you know. I'm glad. I'm glad to know that option

800
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: is there that you can have your brothers. I mean

801
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: they can have your boss. Where do you where'd you work?

802
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: Where your boss is telling you can have three fucking guys.

803
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: Rip your brother's teeth out? Are you in the mafia

804
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: or something?

805
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: Dude, The dude is insane. I love him. He's a

806
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: fucking animal. I don't want to say it because then,

807
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: like I don't know, it's just like a it's a

808
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: really big production company and they're all throughout like they're everywhere,

809
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 4: but you'll never see their name on ship. It's so weird.

810
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 4: It's a really good company.

811
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: Well, Mason, good good luck to you. I'm glad. I

812
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: could be the only I'm glad I could be the

813
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: one person you talk to it and tell you to

814
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: be a fucking idiot and hit your brother because he's

815
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna make a life worse for you.

816
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: All right.

817
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'll see you next time I'm in Michigan.

818
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: If I see you next time I'm in Michigan, and

819
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: will you give me an update on this ship.

820
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: I don't know. I was about to say that. I'm like,

821
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna up to you the next time.

822
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: I see you. Okay, all right, all right, you take

823
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: care of Mason. Thank you, you.

824
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: See man, love you. I didn't mean to say that.

825
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oh whatever, I love you too, Mason. I've

826
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: been trying. I've been thinking about the whole I love

827
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: you thing because people say I love you to me,

828
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: and I don't. I feel weird about it, because loves

829
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: loves an interesting thing. I always say. I say I

830
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: appreciate you because I mean that I will you could.

831
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: I mean that I have a deep appreciation for the

832
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: people who call me and listen to this podcast. But

833
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: I think I was like, you know those I don't know.

834
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: There's all these YouTubers who like they do a merch

835
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: drop and they're like look in the camera and they're like,

836
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: I love you guys, and we are you know, together.

837
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: In some it it feels weird and fake to me.

838
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: So I don't like to do it, but appreciation is real.

839
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: I feel like appreciations a realer than love. I can

840
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: say that with one hundred percent more than love. Love

841
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: I is, I guess reserved for like yeah, I don't

842
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: know my fucking mom, but I but yeah, whatever, I don't.

843
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm being weird about it. I

844
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: love you too, Mason. I hope you. I hope you do.

845
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: The tree thing sounds fun?

846
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 4: All from Jacob.

847
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: Hello, what's up?

848
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: How's it going?

849
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: It's going all right, man? What's what's going on with you?

850
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: Has life?

851
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 5: Life's Life's pretty crazy. Yeah, we've actually talked before. I

852
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 5: was on like I called you on a Halloween and

853
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 5: I was on your first.

854
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: Episode, my very on my very first episode of this show.

855
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I very first.

856
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 5: The guy with the orange and the bike.

857
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, I remember.

858
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: You, Jacob ah, yes, hey.

859
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: Holy shit, Wait a minute, hold the fuck on, hold

860
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: the hold on, Hold the fuck on here wait the

861
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: very first episode. Okay, give me yea one moment here, dude,

862
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: I remember you. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I'm

863
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: looking up my own podcast right now. Because I thought

864
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: you were bullshitting me. I thought you were totally, completely

865
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: and ugly bullshitting me. And okay, I'm looking. I'm looking

866
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: at my podcast, the very episode one banned and forgotten.

867
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: That's holy shit. If you go to episode one September seventh,

868
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: twenty which is basically three years ago, the very first

869
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: episode of this podcast, it says in the description, we

870
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: go for a bike ride in the night time, and

871
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: that's and that's you. That's you who who I talked to?

872
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: That when all the night time bike ride? Yeah, well,

873
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: holy shit. I gotta say I'm not a big return

874
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: caller guy, but I way, we gotta talk. We gotta

875
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: see what's up. Yeah, don't go go go and listen

876
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: to literally episode number one of this podcast and Jacob

877
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: is in there. What's going on?

878
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: Man?

879
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: How you been.

880
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 5: A dude? Life's been really wild. I've been living on

881
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 5: the road for it's almost been two years now. I'm

882
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 5: not on the road right now. I just got back home,

883
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 5: taking like a short break. But yeah, I got to

884
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 5: see a lot of new places I've never been to

885
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 5: before and experience it with a lot of new faces.

886
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: It's been great.

887
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: So let's see what what do you remember what we

888
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: talked about the first time you called.

889
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 5: The first time. Uh, we called. I was just hanging out.

890
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 5: I was on a bike ride and I stopped and

891
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 5: I called you in the middle of a soccer field

892
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 5: and I was just eating my orange while I was

893
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 5: like waiting. Yeah, I was. I remember being very nervous. Uh,

894
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 5: I'm kind of nervous right now. I think I've got

895
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 5: a thing with that, but I was. I was really

896
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 5: nervous when I called you. And yeah, we talked about

897
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 5: that for a bit. You read a poem that was

898
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 5: really cool.

899
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: What part was it? The Shelle Silverstein one?

900
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 5: It was Robert Frost. I forgot. I think it was

901
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 5: Robert Frost. It was it was it was a poem

902
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 5: about the past less travel.

903
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm a

904
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: big poetry guy. That's not remotely true. Yeah we talked. Yeah,

905
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: we just we just had I don't we I don't

906
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: even remember in particularly what we talked about. I just

907
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: remember it was a nice little chat where. Okay, so

908
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: tell me about where you were at that time in

909
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: your life and how things have changed.

910
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Yeah, I was. I was living with a

911
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 5: couple of roommates and kind of meandering, uh through life.

912
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 5: I guess I still kind of am, but uhh yeah,

913
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 5: compared now, compared to then, I'm meandering in a lot

914
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 5: bigger way, which is really fun. Just kind of yeah,

915
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 5: still doing that. I guess I'm working at I'm traveling

916
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 5: by doing different renaissances. Have you been to a Renaissance

917
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 5: school I have.

918
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the Giant Turkey Leg as

919
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: well as the Mead.

920
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they're They're really fun. I've been doing those

921
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 5: like in various states and stuff, and there's a lot

922
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 5: of really great music scenes there, so I I get

923
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 5: to practice with some really great musicians, which is wonderful.

924
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: What do you play?

925
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 5: I play UK and I play guitar?

926
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: Hm cool man cool cool cool m.

927
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 5: M m.

928
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: Yeah I do.

929
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 5: I'm more just the Slaney player though.

930
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: Where is and that's what you do for a living?

931
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Is working at those those renfares?

932
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I've been doing for almost two years now.

933
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: Before that I was I've been just doing the Minnesota

934
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 5: Renaissance Festival for I've been performing there for over fifteen

935
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 5: years and this year is going to be my twentieth

936
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 5: year just working there.

937
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: M hmm yeah, m Where all have you gotten my traveling.

938
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 5: Well. I started doing the North Carolina Renaissance Festival, and

939
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 5: then I went to the Arizona Renaissance Festival. Than I

940
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 5: did Texas, Colorado, and uh, that's the whole circuit. And

941
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 5: I did Minnesota again. The last festival that I've more

942
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 5: recently done was Arizona again. I'm about to do Minnesota.

943
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What do you how do you think you're

944
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: Do you think life has changed for you for the

945
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: better in the last three years.

946
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 5: That's that's a great question to reflect on. I think, yeah,

947
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 5: I I've grown a lot. I think that's part of

948
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 5: like just the experiences I've gotten to have, but also

949
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 5: just I'm older now. There's stuff going on there, which

950
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 5: is cool. But for the most part, I I you know,

951
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 5: I don't know that. It's a hard question to answer

952
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 5: for me right now. I'm like, I'm in right now,

953
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 5: I'm kind of in a rough place, but I'm also

954
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 5: confident that I can like get my life back to

955
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: where I want it to be. While I'm in a

956
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 5: rough place right now, I do have a lot of

957
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 5: hope for the future, which is nice.

958
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: You don't have to talk about it if you don't

959
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: want to. But what's making you in a rough place?

960
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 5: I while I was on the road, I met a

961
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 5: pretty cool lady and last month we had broken up.

962
00:52:55,040 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 5: So that's it's been a little hard. But mhm. Also,

963
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 5: being on the road for so long, I haven't really

964
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 5: gotten to experience the seasons as much, and that's it

965
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 5: doesn't sound very hard to a lot of people, but

966
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 5: for me, it's been kind of rough. I I didn't

967
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 5: realize before I went on the road that I really

968
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 5: need the season mostly an experience. Summer.

969
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess where where do you normally live.

970
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 5: I'm I'm from Minnesota and I've spent most of my

971
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 5: time in Minnesota.

972
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: It's pretty cold, and.

973
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty cool. The winters are pretty long and cold,

974
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 5: h and pretty much anywhere else you go in the country,

975
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 5: it's it's not I was.

976
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: I was just in Australia and it was winter in July,

977
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: and it's it's pretty good. Actually, it was pretty good.

978
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: It was pretty good. I like the winter better than

979
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: this summer. More flakes, Yeah, I do too.

980
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. Was it warm there in winter?

981
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: No? No, it's cold cold. Yeah, But like I said,

982
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: I like the cold because of I like where it

983
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: because one of the things about being a big old

984
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: fat guy is that, uh, you like, you like a

985
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: sweatshirt better than a T shirt. You feel more comfortable

986
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: the summer for the summers are not great for big

987
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: old fat guys.

988
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand that. That makes sense.

989
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: Well, ship, bro, what's your name? Did I catch your name? Jacob?

990
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 5: Yeah? Jacob, Yeah, you got it.

991
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: Jacob, Jacob, Jacob. Good to hear from you again, Jacob.

992
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: It's always cool that hearing from people from back back then.

993
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 5: I know, I know.

994
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I started doing this when I was twenty two

995
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: years old, and now I'm a little bit older. Wow, yeah,

996
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: I start doing something.

997
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 5: So you were you were twenty two three years ago.

998
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: I was twenty two three years ago.

999
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 5: Wow, that's amazing.

1000
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: I was and the crazy it's just crazy to think

1001
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: I was so fucking stupid.

1002
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 5: Wait, how slow?

1003
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: Just just it's in a lot of ways. I'm still

1004
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm less stupid. I'm a lot. I think I'm a

1005
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: lot less stupid now than I was then. But I

1006
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: just I didn't know what I was doing. I still

1007
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: don't really know what I'm doing. But I didn't know

1008
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: what I was doing.

1009
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 5: I mean, nobody does.

1010
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: Every year I feel a little bit more like, I

1011
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: know way I'm doing, but still very very stupid. I'm

1012
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm a lot fatter, so this whole thing has taken

1013
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: its toll on me. But hopefully, hopefully in forty years

1014
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: when i'm sixty five, i'll know something if I make

1015
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: it that long, if I don't have a heart attack,

1016
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: but hopefully i'll know something.

1017
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 5: Do you do you think you're really like? You think

1018
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 5: you're that fat? Like I see it. I don't feel

1019
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 5: like you're that bad.

1020
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: Probably I'm not. I'm not at a healthy weight. I'll

1021
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: say that I could use I could use a few

1022
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 1: more oranges and a few more bike rides.

1023
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I mean you know, well can we all can?

1024
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 5: That's true?

1025
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: Take a good hearing from you, man, as.

1026
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 5: Long you're aware of it, you know, like, Yeah, it's

1027
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 5: good to be able to call you. I've called a

1028
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 5: few times before, but it's hard to get through. I'm

1029
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 5: really glad it worked out to night.

1030
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you know what it's to be funny you say,

1031
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: glad as long as you're aware of it. I I

1032
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: always felt like being aware of it. I don't know

1033
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: if that helps, I really don't. I think you be

1034
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: aware is not enough. I think you have to be

1035
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: aware and then do something about it. That's the hard part.

1036
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: You're aware as easy.

1037
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 5: I don't know for some people it's not easy, but

1038
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 5: it's an essential step that everyone needs to take to

1039
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 5: like better themselves in some way. You have to be

1040
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 5: aware of the problems first. You know, well, you're already

1041
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 5: on the right path.

1042
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: Well, I hope one day, Jacob, to meet you at

1043
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: a Renaissance festival and fuck that path all the way

1044
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: up by eating a giant. My god.

1045
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 5: I I would love to see you there. That would

1046
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 5: be amazing. Can I can I ask you something?

1047
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure?

1048
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 5: Uh? Do you know if you're uh gonna go to

1049
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 5: Minnesota on any of your tours?

1050
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: Dude, where is Minnesota?

1051
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 5: It's like right in the middle of the conference?

1052
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: Uh is that many?

1053
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, that's where Minneapolis.

1054
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Okay, because I get this. I thought I thought I

1055
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: went to Indianapolis, and I just I got my puluses

1056
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: mixed up, so I thought that was also, Oh that's funny. Okay,

1057
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: So I'm but next year I'm gonna go to Minneapolis

1058
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: because I didn't go this year.

1059
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 5: I'll yeah, I'll go see you if you do that.

1060
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 5: That would be.

1061
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know one day that would be sick. That'd

1062
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: be sick. Bring it. Bring an orange to the show, dude,

1063
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: bring an orange to the show.

1064
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm going to get one of my really really

1065
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 5: good oranges that. Yeah, I've found the juiciest, the greatest oranges.

1066
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 5: Like you have to be careful when you when you

1067
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 5: eat one of these oranges, because you could choke on

1068
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 5: the juices. It's it's it's dangerous.

1069
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: I am whatever. You what if there was a word

1070
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: for being horny for an orange that would describe what

1071
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: I am.

1072
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 5: I understand they're really.

1073
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: Good, Jacob.

1074
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say to the people of the.

1075
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: Computer before we go, No, I don't think so, have

1076
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: a good.

1077
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: Rest of the night. Do good to hear from you again,

1078
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: and I'll see you when I'm in Minneapolis.

1079
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I look forward to it. Take care by.

1080
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: Jacob, all right, Yeah, dude, I had to look that up.

1081
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: Therapy Gecko episode Therapy Gecko episode one Banned and forgotten.

1082
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: He's in it. I think he's in there. At Uh,

1083
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: they're at around the thirty minute mark if you want

1084
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: to go check that out. Yeah, crazy, super cool man,

1085
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: super cool. We're on episode two. Hundred something and we're

1086
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: getting callers from episode one. That so that's awesome, that's

1087
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: fucking sweet. Uh all right, all right, Jacob, you got

1088
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: to call in episode four hundred. I'll see you. Then

1089
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: goes on the line.

1090
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 5: Taking your phone calls every night, goes to his eye,

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Speaker 5: who's teaching you a loud in the line.

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Speaker 3: He's not really an expert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah,