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Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving Nick Wright Episode three forty eight.

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Speaker 1: We're on today on Monday because I am doing first

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Speaker 1: things first and then I'm flying to Las Vegas to

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Speaker 1: broadcast the World Series of Poker Final Table. We will

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Speaker 1: talk about that on the back end of the pod.

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Speaker 1: I was up until three thirty in the morning last

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Speaker 1: night watching the live stream of the Final Table. I

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Speaker 1: then finally had to wave the white flag, got up

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Speaker 1: at seven thirty this morning, and there was still two

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Speaker 1: and a half hours that I hadn't seen yet of

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Speaker 1: the to get down to the final nine. So if

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Speaker 1: you're a poker fan or a poker buff, we will

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Speaker 1: recap some of that on the back end of today's pod.

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Speaker 1: Also demands not on today's pod, not because he was

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Speaker 1: out partying for his birthday, but because as a wash

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Speaker 1: twenty seven year old, he decided he just needed to

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Speaker 1: do his day job today and he has Tuesday mornings off,

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Speaker 1: doesn't have Monday mornings off, so he's at work at

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Speaker 1: Fox right now. So I will carry us through the

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Speaker 1: next forty five minutes or so. Speaking of straight to voicemail.

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Boost Mobile. Cooper Flag after an

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Speaker 1: awesome second game of Summer League, struggled a bit in

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Speaker 1: Chelsea wins the FIFA Club World Cup, and then one

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Speaker 1: the present and something that I was unaware of, but

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Speaker 1: the producers just sent me the link to Drake covered

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Speaker 1: up his Lebron tattoo with an SGA tattoo. Listen, I

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Speaker 1: am not going to get into the Drake Lebron relationship.

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Speaker 1: What I am going to get into is this. If

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Speaker 1: I were in Drake's inner circle, which I'm not, and

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Speaker 1: Bronz tattoo, I might say, Hey, maybe not another NBA player,

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Speaker 1: maybe not. Maybe let's maybe let's learn our lesson that

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Speaker 1: that getting tattoos of people you loosely have relationships with

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Speaker 1: because they are fellow celebrities and in this case also

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Speaker 1: Canadian that might one day lead to a triple cover up,

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Speaker 1: because who's to say that in six years, Drake and

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Speaker 1: Lil YACHTI aren't gonna get into a beef and SGA

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Speaker 1: So the summer of Lebron continues a bit and there

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Speaker 1: was a very seemingly interesting article written by Ramona Shelburne

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Speaker 1: and Brian Windhorst that kind of set off a lot

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Speaker 1: there was a Dave mcminnimon report, and then there was

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Speaker 1: an article edit that I find the whole thing fascinating.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to go through every single stanza

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Speaker 1: it considerably because I actually in credit to Chris Broussard,

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Speaker 1: who on our first Thing's first morning meeting. Just a

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Speaker 1: moment ago when we were talking about doing this topic,

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Speaker 1: he was like, how much of the audience do you

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Speaker 1: think actually read the article? I was like, Oh, that's

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Speaker 1: a good point. Brew. So the beginning of this article

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Speaker 1: detail a meeting between Luca Plenka Reddick and Luca's manager

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Speaker 1: Laura Lara Beth Seeger where we find out what doors

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Speaker 1: and it's incredibly detailed and it talks about that meeting,

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Speaker 1: but that is not what people are people's takeaway or

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Speaker 1: even Lebron James Luka Ancic inside the most delicate superstar

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Speaker 1: need him to sign a contract extension this summer. Now,

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Speaker 1: whether that's a four year deal or a three year deal,

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Speaker 1: set up better more money long term and future. But regardless,

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Speaker 1: And if I were running the Lakers, I certainly wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be like, well, anytime we're meeting with Luca, Lebron has

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Speaker 1: to be there because these are the Lakers. Attempt to

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Speaker 1: compete this season is in one bucket. The Lakers playing

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Speaker 1: over the next three, five, ten years is in another bucket,

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Speaker 1: And both of those buckets necessitate a locked in, dialed in,

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Speaker 1: I think Lebron understands that the single most important thing

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't have viewed that as scandalous. Oh, the

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Speaker 1: Lakers had a meeting with Luca without Lebron there, but

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Speaker 1: it was treated like it was in this article, like

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Speaker 1: And again that is it is incredibly logical, and I

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Speaker 1: Luca and what he understands about the NBA. Now it

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Speaker 1: it is absolutely fair to say. And then I'll get

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Speaker 1: back to the article that Lebron feels like, all right,

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Speaker 1: while trying to get Luca locked up long term, we

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Speaker 1: three seed last year. Because I'm still playing at a

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Speaker 1: undeniable top ten level, Luca is going to go into

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Speaker 1: two things not only are they not mutually exclusive, they

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Speaker 1: are not in conflict at all. There is nothing better

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Speaker 1: for Luca's long term future with the Lakers than him

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Speaker 1: stacking awesome seasons with the Lakers starting immediately. So then

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Speaker 1: the article goes on to discuss, you know, it talks

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Speaker 1: future is from Rich Paul. We do want to evaluate

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Speaker 1: what's best for Lebron at this stage in his life

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Speaker 1: want what's best for him. I looked at that statement

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Speaker 1: win a title right now. But if you guys, for

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Speaker 1: James at an all NBA level, is actually going to

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Speaker 1: and that's the road you're gonna take, then we should

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Speaker 1: anonymous Western Conference executives on their opinions. One Western Conference

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Speaker 1: Lakers hadn't offered James a new contract extension. More on

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Speaker 1: simply demanding a trade, and the Lakers plan of well,

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Speaker 1: we're just going to sign. I'm curious again who it

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Speaker 1: Lebron chose to save them after six years in the Desert.

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Speaker 1: Lebron then greatly helped them get Anthony Davis, and then

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Speaker 1: Nico Harrison gifted them Luke ad ancicch that they were

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Speaker 1: able to include in that trade. That's not there. And

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Speaker 1: I just don't see this. Oh my goodness, Jannis is

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Speaker 1: your cap sheet open, he'll pick La So's It's curious

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Speaker 1: to me, But a lot of the moves the Lakers

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Speaker 1: The Lakers had made their statement in not offering James

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Speaker 1: a contract beyond this season. It was abundantly clear that

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Speaker 1: the twenty one time All Stars time has face. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers had for the first time a planned end date,

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Speaker 1: even if James's record setting NBA career did not. And

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Speaker 1: to me feels Ramona is incredibly plugged in with the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: something of a falling out, it would appear, and so

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say the info on this

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Speaker 1: was not quoting anonymous people close to him, was quoting

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Speaker 1: Rich Paul directly. Dave mcminnimon then reports during Summer League

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Speaker 1: two days later, oh, by the way, look, we didn't

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Speaker 1: ask for nor want a contract extension. And then there

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Speaker 1: the article initially said that when the Bus family agreed

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Speaker 1: on June eighteenth, Doncic was given a heads up and

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Speaker 1: notably posted congratulations on social media. Lebron James was given

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Speaker 1: no heads up. The article was then edited and it

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Speaker 1: They then trade for Luca Lebron correctly does not ask

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Speaker 1: Luca to change his game at all. Lebron changes his

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Speaker 1: that coming from? And why would they not say, right now,

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Speaker 1: maximize this window. I think that's foolish. But I also

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Speaker 1: would not have done that Rob Blinka and the Bus

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Speaker 1: And if it's that, and if it's that, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: every all time great athlete ever is a lot to

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Speaker 1: deal with in one way, shape or form, And people

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Speaker 1: keep saying nothing tougher than dealing with an all time

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Speaker 1: have treated every year as if, well, Lebron's not going

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Speaker 1: for us to leverage everything to try to win at

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Speaker 1: this moment. And then each year Lebron shows up on

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Speaker 1: the All NBA team. Each year Lebron comes to work

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Speaker 1: and gives you twenty five, seven and seven, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: what do you need? And now, like I understand why

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Speaker 1: staph and under the new CBA me making fifty million

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Speaker 1: the minimum that I wouldn't mind going to play for.

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Speaker 1: I understand why Lebron might say I don't want the extension.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why the Lakers wouldn't say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: lot of this is just to.

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Speaker 2: Me more.

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Speaker 1: More evidence that when the Walter family does come and

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Speaker 1: All Right, the other piece of this is is Luca

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Speaker 1: built in inherent advantages. They now have one of the

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Speaker 1: that again, that's not an indictment any of those places.

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Speaker 1: Within two years, within one year, he delivered them Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: There is the thing that I would think would utterly

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Speaker 1: All Right, this I meant to talk about last week,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ten twelve years in, I got full MVPs

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Speaker 2: of faux championships. Like, but do I still want to

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Speaker 2: do this shit? You know what I'm saying. Some people

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Speaker 2: say I don't want to go play baseball, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: they don't want to come back. Well, some people say

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go twenty two straight.

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Speaker 1: One of the lines in there is some people say

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Speaker 1: play twenty two straight. And I I don't think this

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Speaker 1: is a controversial or hot take, guys, And yet somehow,

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Speaker 1: and this is this is one of my and if

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Speaker 1: you view some of the Lebron Jordan stuff, which is

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Speaker 1: so of the myths that exist in NBA history, the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of them serve one of one or two purposes,

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Speaker 1: either tearing down Lebron or building up Michael. So like,

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Speaker 1: in no particular order, I think here's a myth that

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Speaker 1: just everyone believes. Man, the nineteen eighties were just the

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Speaker 1: were more flagrant type fouls, but it was running gun

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Speaker 1: up is down, black is white myths is eh Lebron

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Speaker 1: its face, incorrect facts. And the Michael Jordan quit the

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Speaker 1: therefore it's almost a third rail to discuss him walking

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Speaker 1: away is just a myth. And the reason I know that,

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Speaker 1: and the reason you guys know that is because Michael

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Speaker 1: Michael was telling me essentially for months that he was

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Speaker 1: I think is a totally legitimate belief, that Michael looked

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Speaker 1: no one's done since Russell's Celtics. I have nothing left

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Speaker 1: to do here. I'm not enjoying this scrutiny and this

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Speaker 1: and all of it. And then if he was, you know,

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Speaker 1: And then it is even like, so wildly impressive that

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Speaker 1: couldn't get it done, he then rips off another three

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Speaker 1: pet and that is part of his absolute legend. That's

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Speaker 1: totally fair. I shouldn't even just say it's fair. That's

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Speaker 1: my opinion that I think that is a remarkable feat.

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Speaker 1: But the number of people that think what Durant said

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Speaker 1: is how we would evaluate literally anyone in any field ever,

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Speaker 1: which is, you certainly don't get extra credit for quitting

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Speaker 1: back two or a year and a half later. That

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Speaker 1: that year and a half certainly doesn't help his basketball career,

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Speaker 1: because there was no basketball career. And that if at

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Speaker 1: least in the consistent year after year after your excellence,

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Speaker 1: the guy who never stepped away and played at a

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Speaker 1: and a top five level twice as long as any

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Speaker 1: at least a check mark in that guy's column. Now,

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Speaker 1: is that the whole column? No? Is that the only

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Speaker 1: thing that matters? Of course not, But is that obviously true? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And people saw it and were like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: helped his quest to catch Brady. And that's all Katie

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Speaker 1: to me the way people got angry at that take

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Speaker 1: So Caitlin and Page played in their first pro matchup yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn has not been playing great since returning from her

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Speaker 1: last month it's clicked in for Angel Reese June twenty fourth.

644
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you the dates, but dating

645
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: back to June twenty fourth, in a win against the

646
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: Sparks eighteen seventeen, six and four, and this is important,

647
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: on fifty percent from the field and eighty six percent

648
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: from the line. The next game against the Valkyrie seventeen

649
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: and eighteen on forty four percent from the field, one

650
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: hundred percent from the line. The next game against the

651
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: Sparks twenty four sixteen seven, one and two on fifty

652
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: three percent from the line and from the field, pardon me,

653
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: and one hundred percent from the line. The next game

654
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: against maybe the best team in the league, Minnesota sixteen

655
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: seventeen and six on forty four percent from the field,

656
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: one hundred percent from the line. The next game against

657
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: the Mystics twenty two fifteen and four on fifty six

658
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: percent from the field and twelve of fifteen from the

659
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: line to eighty percent. The next game against Dallas fifteen

660
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: and eleven on sixth sixty percent from the field and

661
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: the line, And the next game against Minnesota again nineteen eleven,

662
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: four and two on fifty seven percent from the field,

663
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: seventy five percent from the line. Angel Rees is making

664
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: her bunnies, and Angel Reese is playing efficient basketball, which

665
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: makes Angel Reese because of her impact on the game

666
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: defensively and on the glass and her underrated passing. The

667
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: way she's been playing the last month, she's top fifteen

668
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: player in the league. And that's awesome because it was

669
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: weird for a player who I think was number two

670
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: recruit in her class two page and I think it

671
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: was to page, a player who was pre Caitlin and

672
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: all of that, nanimous first team All American and one

673
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: of the best players in the country. It was odd

674
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: to me that her sophomore season didn't pop, and now

675
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: it's popping, and now all of a sudden, it is

676
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: the Skier, a team that, again the WNBA's weird is

677
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: the wrong word, but it's different because there's so few

678
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: teams that you really do have the ability to pull

679
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: yourself to find a way into the playoffs, so to speak,

680
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: that you otherwise might not be cause eight make it,

681
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: and there's only fifteen teams in the league. Four are

682
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: gonna make it out of the East. Right now. The

683
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: Sky are in fifth and they're listen, there are ways

684
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: back there three and a half back. But if the Mystics,

685
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: who are playing really well right now, trip up the

686
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: sky could catch him. And I have really tried to

687
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: on this show at least when we talk about basketball,

688
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: to talk about basketball. And it is really nice to

689
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: see Angel Reese, despite all of the noise around her,

690
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: to be playing the best basketball she's played as a pro.

691
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: It's been great, all right, very quick tennis corner. I

692
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: obviously was very bummed that Alcarez didn't win Wimbledon. Janick

693
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: Center good for him avenging his French Open loss. The

694
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: producers are asking to center Alcarez have the potential be

695
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: an all time rivalry and the answer to that question

696
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: is no, uh and it listens. Center is really good

697
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: and I and he's also like Alcarez young. I don't

698
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: I think it is. Here's why my answer is no.

699
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: I think we were spoiled by the Big Three era,

700
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: and because of the Big Three era of these all

701
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: time historic legends playing simultaneously, that we expect that to

702
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: happen again. I think Alcarez is that all time historic

703
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: legend level. I don't listen, Center's young, and he's got

704
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: four majors, so maybe I'm maybe I am selling him

705
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: a bit short, but I think he is a tier

706
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: beneath where Alcarez is going to be. I think he's

707
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: probably closer to the Augusty tier than the Joker Federer

708
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: adult tier when it's all said and done, and I

709
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: think Alcarez is close to the Joker Federer and adult

710
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: tier than the Augusty tier. Now again, maybe I'm being

711
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: unfair to Center. He's only twenty three to twenty four.

712
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: He's now in the last two years, won four Majors

713
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: and final to French. That's the only reason I don't

714
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: have the career Grand Slam. But I'll still I'll still

715
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: be a I just don't know that Carlos is going

716
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: to have a true one for one rival. All right,

717
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: before we get to the listener questions, World Series of Poker,

718
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: A lot of legitimate controversies, controversies Kassouf and one Chip

719
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: stalling and all this stuff. I'm going to talk about

720
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: a lot of that on the broadcast, and I don't

721
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: know how much this audience cares about that. And if

722
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: you do care about it, you'll get it on the broadcast,

723
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: and maybe I'll do it on Thursday. A bit I

724
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: do want to talk about this final table, however, because

725
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: the final table is set and the story is For

726
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: the first time in more than thirty years, there is

727
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: a woman at the final table. She was the last

728
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 1: woman standing at the World Series Main event sixteen years ago.

729
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: She is from Spain. She is absolutely delightful. Her name

730
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: is Leo Margetz. She is dead even in chips with

731
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: fifty four million, and her winning this tournament would be

732
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: the greatest thing to happen to poker since Chris money

733
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: Maker won the tournament and it's in play, she absolutely

734
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: can win. She yesterday twice, i think twice, got her

735
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: money in on coin flips, which you have to do.

736
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: That's not an indictment at all. You have to do

737
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: that in this tournament multiple times. But the reason it's

738
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: noteworthy is both times she got out flopped and then

739
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: both times hit runner runner to win the coin flip.

740
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: So it's twice she has had it in you know,

741
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: pair versus two overcards or two overcards versus the pair

742
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: and gotten cracked on the flop to where it looked

743
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: like she was dead and then hit perfect perfect or

744
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: something close to it to stay alive, which has been amazing. Theater.

745
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: She would be unbelievable if she won this thing, and

746
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: it's already unbelievable that she's this far. I think she

747
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: has to get to fourth to be the best finish

748
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: ever for a woman in the main event. I think

749
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: she already has locked up the most money any woman's

750
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: ever made in the main event. The other story, obviously

751
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: is Michael Msrocky, who won the most prestigious tournament of

752
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: the summer, the fifty Kay Poker Players Championship, for the

753
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: fourth time. And this is an old school gambler, literally

754
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: as an ace tattooed up his sleeve, has stuff tattooed

755
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: on him, does not do the gto stuff, talks, gambles,

756
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: drinks at the table. It's awesome. It's also unbelievable that

757
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: he four times has won the most prestigious tournament at

758
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: the World Series and now is second in chips at

759
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: ninety three million, when early yesterday he got it all

760
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: in Ace Jack versus Ace Queen lost and was down

761
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: to three big blinds, And to now have more than

762
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: fifty to be in second, to build it up from

763
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: there and to have a chance to go fifty KPPC

764
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: and ten thousand player injury main event. It would arguably

765
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: be the single greatest summer in the history of the

766
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: World Series of Poker. The other folks at the table

767
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: of note John Waznak, who's just an amateur player, a

768
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: family man, incredibly likable. He is the chip leader with

769
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight million. Watching him yesterday was unbelievable.

770
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: He was just He played incredibly tight, picked his spots,

771
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: kept getting it in good, kept winning. There was also

772
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: a moment where he had Ace King. It was so

773
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: it was so fascinating. It was someone three bet with

774
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: Ace Queen. He four bet with Ace King, pocket Jacks

775
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: then folded. Ace Queen called it off. It came all

776
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: low cards had pocket Jack's called Ace Queen would have

777
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: folded for sure, and Wasnock would have been out like

778
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: thirteenth place. And I forget who it was with Jack's

779
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: I think it's the guy who came in tenth would

780
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: have had huge chips instead Jack's fold, Ace Queen gets

781
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: it in, He's out. Wasnock now ends up spinning up

782
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: to one hundred and eight million. There's a bunch of

783
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: other great players, and then there is the guy I

784
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: bet on who oddly and I found this out yesterday.

785
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: There is out there in the universe producers. If you

786
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: guys can buy check on eBay it might be this

787
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: might be a good investment. The one of one, I

788
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: think is on eBay. There is a poker trading card

789
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: signed by three people. One of them is me and

790
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: the other one is Adam Hendrix, who is seventh right

791
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: now in Chips. He is in my opinion, either the

792
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: best or the second best player left at the in

793
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: the field. And he has forty eight million, which is plenty.

794
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: I think it's thirty bigs and he's he was my

795
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: bet to win it. I bet yesterday going into day

796
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: eight I with a friend I like, I told them

797
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 1: they could have the chip. We just it's I ain't.

798
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: People ask me because I tweeted about this, what odds

799
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: I get? I didn't get odds. There's twenty five people left.

800
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: What I said was to my little gambling consortium, if

801
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: anyone wants the chip leader, who at the time was

802
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: Kenny Hollert, who's still in it. By the way, he's

803
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: fourth in Chips with eighty million. All take Adam Hendrick's

804
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: even money and I, you know, seemingly I was getting

805
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: the bad side of that because Hollert was the chip leader.

806
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: But I think Hendricks can win. But right now gotta

807
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: be rooting for Leo and for the Grinder. So I

808
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: fly out there tonight. It will be it will be

809
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: absolutely thrilling. The one you guys are putting in the

810
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: chat is the one of four or the in the

811
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: I think on there is a one of one autograph.

812
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it's my one of one. Whatever it is, I'm

813
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: not sure. It doesn't matter, don't worry about it. But

814
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: it's just I if this guy ships the main I

815
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: just think you guys should maybe buy uh oh, the

816
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: one of one that's up for me does not have

817
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: Adam Hendrix on it. I'm just telling you I think

818
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: those Adam Hendricks signed cards could be worth something. That's

819
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: all all right, the I appreciate everyone for listening. Evan asked,

820
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: would I ever do a top twenty tennis players ever?

821
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: Like your Top fifty basketball? Probably not quite enough of it,

822
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: not Probably definitely not enough of an expert on that

823
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: to really do that list. Justice Dave asked, is this

824
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,479
Speaker 1: actually live or pre recorded? No? This is actually live.

825
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: We tell you if it's pre recorded, but this is

826
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: actually live. The producers asked, who know is coming to Vegas?

827
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: Kind of which board games would you win the most

828
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: money playing. I don't know about which board game, but

829
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: I'll play high dollar Dominos against anybody. I'll do that.

830
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: I would like to say I would play high dollar Spades,

831
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: but that's so partner dependent. But the reality is I'm

832
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm good at those types of games if you just

833
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: I just need to know the rules and watch it

834
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: played once, and I'm pretty good at that stuff. Demanse

835
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: would be Demonse's great at Monopoly, and I've considered staking

836
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: him in some real money, semi high stakes Monopoly games.

837
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: I might do that one day. All right, like rate,

838
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: subscribe review, I'm headed to Vegas. We'll be back on Thursday.

839
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: Thank you de Mando, Thank you to DraftKings, thank you

840
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: to the volume, Thank you guys, so many people we

841
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: gotta think. Thanks my friends at Blue Duck, uh, thanks

842
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: to our friends at boost Mobile. Thank you to all

843
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: of you guys. More than anything, poker. Go to watch

844
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: the World Series main event Final Tale will be on

845
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: the call and FS one to watch us all back

846
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: on TV regular two hour show today three to five.

847
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: See you guys there. We'll trade m alright, yep, alright,

848
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: I'll see you guys. Alright bye,