WEBVTT - Episode 510 w/ Dee Dean

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<v Speaker 4>right now we have what we are missing in this industry.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now we have a strong black street CEO person

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<v Speaker 4>who changed the game, put brothers together, took him out

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<v Speaker 4>of the hood and gave him a chance and made stars.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the CEO of Rough Riders.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're gonna give him his motherfucking flowers today in

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<v Speaker 4>case you don't know what we're talking about. So my

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<v Speaker 4>motherfucker deep so D for the people that don't know, right,

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<v Speaker 4>how did Rough Riders get started?

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<v Speaker 3>How did?

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<v Speaker 2>How did? How did?

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, that's why that's but people don't don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But how did?

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<v Speaker 4>Because Rough Riders a lot of people don't understand that

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<v Speaker 4>Rough Riders is like a motorcycle crew kind of right.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it's a record label, so it's like, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more like music. And then this bike is two separate.

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<v Speaker 3>Entity which bikes was in first, or music was first?

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<v Speaker 2>The music was first. We were doing music way before

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<v Speaker 2>the bikes. Then we just attached that to the bikes,

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<v Speaker 2>to the music, and that's how they came into play

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<v Speaker 2>after the music that we've been doing music before bikes, right, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So I love this story about DMX right uh where

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<v Speaker 4>Leo all comes to see him and I believe and

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<v Speaker 4>and and exit jaw is wire shut ye ye. So

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, first of all, how wasn't you like

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<v Speaker 4>nervous to present him to Leo Coles because his his

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<v Speaker 4>wi his George Wyat But you knew his talent was

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<v Speaker 4>that raw that that that Leo was going. So this

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<v Speaker 4>problem what happens okay involved right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what happened was IRV used to be a producer

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<v Speaker 2>for us in this way before he got a situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he believed the next use. He knew we was

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<v Speaker 2>working on developing them through the course of six years

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<v Speaker 2>or however long it was taken. But he was there

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<v Speaker 2>some of that journey, witness some of that journey. He

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<v Speaker 2>witnessed that, you know, the experience to get the experienced

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<v Speaker 2>exit to see his.

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<v Speaker 5>Talent and knew he was good going back when he

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<v Speaker 5>was working with Mike Geronimo.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he had Mike Geronimo first, before he had cash.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, they was all connected. So we had him

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<v Speaker 2>probably even before we had HERV, even before he did that,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he didn't have nothing at that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't even making My brother bought him a drum machine.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave him his first drum machine, and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>he got into start doing beat And he was the

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<v Speaker 2>first drum machine we bought him.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So then okay, so is it IRV who says I

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<v Speaker 4>got Leo Coles is coming.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to come to see him. Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened was IRV must have got connected with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>at death Chair and they gave him a job at

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<v Speaker 2>death Sham. So they told him, you know, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to do X, Y and Z and he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do that. I got somebody I

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<v Speaker 2>want to work. He was talking about exit and they

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<v Speaker 2>knew X. We know X always balking and doing different things.

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<v Speaker 2>So he started doing when he rhymes, and then they said,

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<v Speaker 2>well we can. He must have been the meeting at

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<v Speaker 2>death Chair. He got the job as the A n R.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, well I got d MX. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well we don't. They shld him. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>want nobody that balks and we ain't. We don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to let we we just here to sell records. So

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<v Speaker 2>he quit his job, quit his job, and he quit

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<v Speaker 2>his job. Then Leork came back and got him and

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<v Speaker 2>said no, no, no, no, come back. We need you, We

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<v Speaker 2>need you, we need you. So he went back to

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<v Speaker 2>do his job. He said, only way I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>my job is if you come with me to Yankers

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<v Speaker 2>and meet DMX. So that's when they came to the

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<v Speaker 2>Younkers in the DMX.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll do so all right, but here's here's here's my deal,

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<v Speaker 4>right because you didn't have an artist at that time, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we we had.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I'm saying, like I'm signed. No no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't something so so le York is coming there.

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<v Speaker 4>But what made you have the confidence to say, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, I'm gonna let him rhyme even though his

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<v Speaker 4>his joy is wired, because.

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<v Speaker 2>He already knew he could do it, because he was

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<v Speaker 2>doing the previous like little stuff in the studio waving.

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<v Speaker 2>But even that deal just came out of nowhere. His

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<v Speaker 2>joe was still wire. He wasn't getting around that right,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was already rhymen, so I know he can

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<v Speaker 2>do that. But we wasn't baking of him rhymen at

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<v Speaker 2>that time. We were just banking on his music, playing some music.

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<v Speaker 2>So Leo just was like, well, let me hear something.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I said, come here, XK for

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<v Speaker 2>a minute. But he was talking. He was rhyming like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking so even yeah, but you don't know it's

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<v Speaker 2>George Y and Leo, nobody knows it's George White at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. He's just as I'm talking. This is how

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<v Speaker 2>he's rhyming. Very no, it don't sound like nothing on

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<v Speaker 2>this joke, but they don't know it's George White at

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<v Speaker 2>this time. So I said, all right, come here, and

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<v Speaker 2>he split a couple of rounds like Leo was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's pretty good and this, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, now coming from me, and I told me,

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<v Speaker 2>coming a little across, to open your mouth. Just look

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<v Speaker 2>at his mouth and see his mouth was shut. Wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. That's what made me get a deal with

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<v Speaker 2>his doors. He's seeing that the Joe was wie.

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<v Speaker 5>So you guys didn't have no other deal before that? No, no,

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<v Speaker 5>because I swore that I had.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard X on records, but was well.

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<v Speaker 5>Like anything with Big Bat, anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when he called solo right something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you had to do a way back. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that probably even before us with somebody else and

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<v Speaker 2>then we had got him. So but with us, it

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<v Speaker 2>was probably that moving forward. But he was already rapping

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<v Speaker 2>and doing things. But it was kind of difficult because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, different type of artists. He worked out for

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<v Speaker 2>us because we knew how to handle him. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. He wasn't type of artists where you

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<v Speaker 2>just say go there through the song. It didn't work

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Never ever, he'd rather be outside flying recent

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<v Speaker 2>calls on the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So let me ask you, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just recently. I recently discovered this, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I was recently just going through tours and.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized that Rough Rider Cash.

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<v Speaker 4>Money Toll might be top five of hip hop greatest

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<v Speaker 4>tours of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a good tour.

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<v Speaker 3>I was, so, how did this happen? You and Baby

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<v Speaker 3>got together?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know how it worked out because we was

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<v Speaker 2>in We was doing well at that time and they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing well at the time. So it's Baby and

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<v Speaker 2>Slim and as me and my brother, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of connected. They from the streets, were from

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<v Speaker 2>the streets, so we come from that side of the

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<v Speaker 2>program that we were dealing with them. So they were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we clicked and then they had Juvenile. I need

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<v Speaker 2>to use Juvenile for a song, So I said, let

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<v Speaker 2>me get Juvenile. Once I got Juvenile, put them on

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<v Speaker 2>one of the compilations that we did, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>got close. And that's how we connected the tour and

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<v Speaker 2>we figured out how to make a tour happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Because you know, a lot of us don't know when

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<v Speaker 4>we're making history, and some of us do know when

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<v Speaker 4>we're making history. Some of us are like, we smack

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<v Speaker 4>that in the middle of it, and like, yo, if

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<v Speaker 4>this goes correct, all right, this is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a legendary, it's gonna be an historic moment from from

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning. Did you know that about that?

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<v Speaker 2>To all? No, he did, no remember thinking about history.

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<v Speaker 2>Were just doing what we loved and and just music.

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<v Speaker 2>When you love we are a passion for music. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you got a passion, you don't be thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing. You're just doing it a the love

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<v Speaker 2>of the music and the people that you believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was more for me, like be able to

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<v Speaker 2>uh because I had kissing them my head. They all

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<v Speaker 2>from Yonkers kids on yo. So I had them for

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<v Speaker 2>years when it was babies. I used take them to

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<v Speaker 2>school and pick them up and drop them off. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got a chance to watch them develop, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. So you never know until you

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<v Speaker 2>get there. You know, It's not like I could foresee

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<v Speaker 2>and say this is going to be big. I got

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<v Speaker 2>artists that I worked with that didn't make it, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you got to pick and shoes and they

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<v Speaker 2>just have them staying out and popo so they worked

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<v Speaker 2>and exs from Yonkers and and the locks is from Yankis.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was that was something that I deal with

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<v Speaker 2>to this day.

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<v Speaker 5>But hold up, but going back to that tour really quick, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>how difficult was that logistically for did you guys have.

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<v Speaker 4>To Yeah, like that's don't say I'm thinking y'all would

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<v Speaker 4>have egos. I'm thinking that would be class.

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<v Speaker 2>Read about it. Like the whole time. We never had

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<v Speaker 2>a problem, not in that one incident, because here it's

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<v Speaker 2>easy when you both understand each other. You're from the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Were from the street, all right, and we never even

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think it was a fight on that hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we have no type because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>line of respect, you know, because you already know where

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<v Speaker 2>it's going. It ain't no offens, it ain't no in between.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't gonna ain't gonna be a couple of punches

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<v Speaker 2>in the past. You have the answer to a type

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<v Speaker 2>of situation. So we don't want no problems. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>want no problem, and we respect them. So they was young,

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<v Speaker 2>we were young, just coming in the game, and we

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<v Speaker 2>just want to do we have to do that make

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<v Speaker 2>history right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>How does that happen?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you're both hot, right, there's no way that you

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<v Speaker 4>can measure, you know, d MX hotness to Lil Wayne

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<v Speaker 4>hotness or Jeuvy was hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe Juvy did three million that year. I believe the

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<v Speaker 3>accident like ten million.

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<v Speaker 4>So how do y'all, how do y'all decide who comes,

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<v Speaker 4>who closes out the show?

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<v Speaker 3>Or how did that go?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you a crazy story. Not even with them.

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<v Speaker 2>It was easy because we were able to say you

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<v Speaker 2>can close, we can close. I think we were swipping

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<v Speaker 2>it like that, you close, we close, you closed, something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So that's like you got another don't make it,

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<v Speaker 2>make work. So but one of the times we had

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<v Speaker 2>a situation and this is with Hoove, so we was

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<v Speaker 2>on tour. Then we have to refer the rocket falls,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is the tall So we're on tour one time,

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<v Speaker 2>so we was already debating on X going last, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, hole, want to go last. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know they already been going through they little well

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<v Speaker 2>wait before they got there, right, So he got an

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<v Speaker 2>ego ast ego, I'm better than you, you ain't better

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<v Speaker 2>than me, and we're going through that. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we got to a degreement, were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what goad, y'all can go last. So I

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<v Speaker 2>told Hole he could go last. Yeah, I said, a

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<v Speaker 2>cool He talked to him and he's cool. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>like three shows in so you know X is going

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<v Speaker 2>before a whole so taking a shirt off, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole nother situation going on. So he got this type

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<v Speaker 2>of energy that when he go, if you're going after him,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever's after him, the crowd probably gonna be burnt out

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<v Speaker 2>after the time. So there wasn't getting the energy from

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<v Speaker 2>them that he just know they normally would have.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotten because it almost guy jumping.

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<v Speaker 2>So they go on record and when Hope get up there,

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<v Speaker 2>they ain't got no more energy. He was like, he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know what. So we went back in

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<v Speaker 2>the room. He was like, this is what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Let's can we work it out like this,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all can go last, and I'll go before X. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how we set it up. After three shows though, because

0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.760
<v Speaker 2>X was draining the crowd, he wasn't getting a response

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<v Speaker 2>and energy, so we.

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<v Speaker 3>Switched it back around. Nobody can't fuck.

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<v Speaker 4>The dog results man, So all right, boom so your

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<v Speaker 4>first deal right, uh? Well, Rough Riders was it was

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<v Speaker 4>the Locks signed first, and that was signed to bad Boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we was managing them. We didn't even have them signing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, So just manage because I.

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<v Speaker 4>Always thought y'all was production, and why not recently that

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<v Speaker 4>y'all was managing them?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, when you're bruging the Puff, he was.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the management Okay, not not one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 4>managing Okay, so how does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>We just was managing them. We we we had X signed,

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<v Speaker 2>but we was managing them. So you know, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>through their little trying to get where X was because

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<v Speaker 2>X was already who he was and as an artist,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just up you young, up and coming artists.

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<v Speaker 2>So but I did was we were still learning the

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<v Speaker 2>game ourself too at this point, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, just sign the Puff and I could

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much learn the game and study the game as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm managing them. So all I did was when he

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<v Speaker 2>went to when the studio, I would go to the

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<v Speaker 2>studio with puffing. I would see how they would work

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<v Speaker 2>and see how everything was going. Because I ain't know

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<v Speaker 2>much about music neither, but I learned it from just

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<v Speaker 2>watching him doing albums. Bigg's album Kim album, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just running back and forth from this room to

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<v Speaker 2>that room. Now. I used to be like, dam why

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<v Speaker 2>do you keep running from room the room? But he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing two albums, one in this room and one

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<v Speaker 2>in that room.

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<v Speaker 3>He was doing bigs at who else?

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<v Speaker 2>He probably doing Big album and Kim's out.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But he running back and forth with me, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm new to the game. So I'm like, you keep

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<v Speaker 2>running back and forth with are you doing? So he

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<v Speaker 2>was working on Kim's album and BIG's album. He was

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<v Speaker 2>working both albums at once.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, when you got the idea to do DMX two albums, No,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll get a better idea for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But see, see what they don't know is X used

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<v Speaker 2>to be with me because I used to be I

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<v Speaker 2>used to be in Baltimore, so I used to be

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<v Speaker 2>out there. I used to keep them with me so

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<v Speaker 2>I could keep my arms so you don't be getting

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble. So what happened was one day was on

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<v Speaker 2>the block and where was outside? And he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I asked him something and he had like a selective memory.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a memory of where you couldn't forget if

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<v Speaker 2>you said it to me, it sounds he had one

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<v Speaker 2>of those memories. So I was like, how you remember?

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<v Speaker 2>He was, oh, I got a memory. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I said it and two three times, I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't forget it. So just so I figured that out,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was probably years before we got a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, okay, I give you one hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for every rhym, and you give me oh yeah. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, all right, So every day you were

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<v Speaker 2>coming me with two rhymes and I'd be like, say

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<v Speaker 2>that and I hear it, and I'll be like, say

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<v Speaker 2>it again. You say it again, I'm all right, say

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<v Speaker 2>it again. He say two times. I know you're never

0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna forget it, because that's how his mind was. So

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<v Speaker 2>when they say two hours in one year, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>had the albums in his head. All I had to do.

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<v Speaker 2>He never had to write again. I just be like,

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<v Speaker 2>all I had to do was remember like three balls

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<v Speaker 2>and be like blah blah blah blah blah blah. You

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I remember going to move and say the

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<v Speaker 2>whole song.

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<v Speaker 5>That's crazy, he said, around right, but I want to

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<v Speaker 5>go further back because you said that you learned the

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<v Speaker 5>music business when managing the Locks being around bat Boy.

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<v Speaker 5>But where did you guys get the bug to even

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<v Speaker 5>want to get into the music business at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the music came from my brother. He was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a Cowboy movie one time and him and my

0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.760
<v Speaker 2>mother was looking at That's what they came with the

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<v Speaker 2>name rough as we was probably already doing music dances. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but we know Chad Elliott and doctor Seuss he was

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<v Speaker 2>around way back then too, because you know, we was

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<v Speaker 2>connected with him as well, so he played the big

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<v Speaker 2>part on us getting focused on me. But we always

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<v Speaker 2>had doing little music here in it, but then we

0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.480
<v Speaker 2>took it to the next level. But how we got

0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:55.880
<v Speaker 2>that the rougher of music influence is because they was

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<v Speaker 2>looking at that movie and it was Cowboy, Black Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>We took that name and just called it rough Riders.

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<v Speaker 2>They was called rough Riders. That's how we got the

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<v Speaker 2>name rough Riders from the Cowboy movie Rough Riders.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is before you guys even had any connection

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<v Speaker 5>any artists. You just this is the idea, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>go this way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna try this and

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<v Speaker 2>just give it a shot, and you know, we just

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<v Speaker 2>believed in Plus, we have people rhyme every day all

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<v Speaker 2>day all the time. You know, we're in the hood,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're from the hood. We see that all day.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was easy for us to connect with the

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<v Speaker 2>people because you see them every day like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Because because I've read somewhere you I think you did

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<v Speaker 4>a state bid and did a fat bed and he said,

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<v Speaker 4>you said, I gotta try something different.

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<v Speaker 2>You know about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, so you said so you said, I gotta

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<v Speaker 4>try something different. But what made you because at this time,

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<v Speaker 4>d I had money. There's about there's about but there's

0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:49.600
<v Speaker 4>about like three hundred people. There's about three, probably two

0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.920
<v Speaker 4>at this time before you successful black street CEOs, and

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean by that, there was other black CEOs,

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<v Speaker 4>but they wasn't for us, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>They wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like I believe. I believe you Dame Dash

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<v Speaker 4>and IRV Gotti kind of changed the game, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean. I mean, in my opinion, like black

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<v Speaker 4>strong CEOs, but but at that time that wasn't popular.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is what I'm trying to ask you, Like

0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.280
<v Speaker 4>what made you invest me? And and I heard you

0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:20.320
<v Speaker 4>say you had a statement and a fat bed. But

0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:21.960
<v Speaker 4>what made you say? You know hip hop?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you know what I mean, like, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what, I wasn't really thinking about it like that.

0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I just listened to rap. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody know rapper. You enjoyed your inspect I appreciate rap.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved but I didn't know nothing about how to

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<v Speaker 2>make music and I wasn't into it like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>my brother had he had said he ran into heavy

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<v Speaker 2>D because where we used to be at in Mount Vernon.

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<v Speaker 2>Heaven's from Mount Vernon. So he ran into me and say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what you could do. And we was hustling

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<v Speaker 2>probably about at that point. He's like, you could do this,

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<v Speaker 2>try this, try some music that will help you out.

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<v Speaker 2>And my brother was going start going into the music.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he told me and I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So we saw me with the music like that, So

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<v Speaker 4>that was your inspiration, said heavy D because I'm Vernon

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<v Speaker 4>and is like, that's that's like the next almost like

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<v Speaker 4>the Bronx.

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<v Speaker 2>In ma hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you want that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so heavy D, because man, heavy D was the

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<v Speaker 4>inspiration for all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>But I had a lot of people.

0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:19.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he helped a lot of people too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so so that was the first inspiration. You see

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<v Speaker 4>someone successful to come over the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Pulling up because we used to hustle on third and third,

0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.760
<v Speaker 2>thirty and third is where all the everybody's out there

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do what they do to get whatever they

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<v Speaker 2>can make. And he pull up every now and then periodically.

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<v Speaker 2>I was good with his brother, which his brother was.

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<v Speaker 2>His brother's name was Jerry. He passed away. Cad blessed

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<v Speaker 2>that he was the wild boy, was the good kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So he ran with us and Jerry used to be

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<v Speaker 2>with us and we run everything. So yeah, we got

0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.399
<v Speaker 2>it from that. We're running through, passing through and he

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<v Speaker 2>was big head was big at that time. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had the big albums. He inspired us to do

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing.

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<v Speaker 4>How about Mary J. Blige because she's from the Yonkers area.

0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.720
<v Speaker 2>She from Wyom. That's Kiss and Mary. They all live

0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.080
<v Speaker 2>in Wyom, you know, so they from over the sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the marriage music. I love her music, but

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<v Speaker 2>I never knew it, so she really inspired me.

0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Really, you never never never knew Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Mary I love Mary Marry. It's good. She family,

0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.840
<v Speaker 2>but I ain't listened to her to the album. One

0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:27.479
<v Speaker 2>of her albums was crazy then. I knew it then,

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:28.520
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't know it before that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I'm gonna bounce around a little bit. One

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<v Speaker 4>of the hottest subjects on the internet right now, it's

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<v Speaker 4>thirty eight spect versus Jada Kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it ain't Jada Kiss. You know, I got my

0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.280
<v Speaker 2>boy on him, which is the US that I'm working,

0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.040
<v Speaker 2>which is Jada Kiss's cousin Brillo. So he the one

0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.680
<v Speaker 2>going back and forth with him, right, really? Yeah, we said,

0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.600
<v Speaker 2>let us get this kiss, we'll take care of him.

0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:55.640
<v Speaker 2>So and we we took it in him at thirty eights,

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<v Speaker 2>going back and we just sent me something today. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>you just sent me a joint that he did today.

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<v Speaker 2>But going back and forth with writing a letter for

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<v Speaker 2>thirty especially, he wrote a letter to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me ask you, because you've been through this,

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<v Speaker 4>You've seen Big and Pop, you see Kissing and Beanie,

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:22.400
<v Speaker 4>you've seen Wove and everybody, everybody. Basically, do you think

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<v Speaker 4>this is good for hip hop?

0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:30.000
<v Speaker 2>But the back and forth, Yeah, I mean it's good

0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.320
<v Speaker 2>as bad as you make it. You know, it's just

0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.240
<v Speaker 2>just a sport. You know, who can box the best,

0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.919
<v Speaker 2>who can run the best is the sport. It depends

0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:39.440
<v Speaker 2>on how you look at you know, what you want

0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.359
<v Speaker 2>to turn into. I mean, I don't look at artists

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.879
<v Speaker 2>asks like they come in here to be shooters and killers.

0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.119
<v Speaker 2>That case, they can stay on the block and they

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.520
<v Speaker 2>don't get in here. They just see the people that's

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:55.080
<v Speaker 2>around them ain't giving them the right the right information.

0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Because see, you got a bunch of kids that come

0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:58.600
<v Speaker 2>in I had kissing them when they was kids. I

0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:00.159
<v Speaker 2>know what to tell them. Not to look y'all go

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that way, because if you was about this life, you

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.360
<v Speaker 2>would have been over there, not over here. You can't

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:06.800
<v Speaker 2>get over here. There's shoot don't want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>drug dealer and the killer. Right, it's just don't go

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 2>so you stay over there, continue to move that way.

0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.439
<v Speaker 2>So most people don't got the right people around. They

0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.159
<v Speaker 2>get money, they get a little money up, they go

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.159
<v Speaker 2>buy a couple of guns and then they they kill us.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, we don't need that a hip hop No, definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>But you do like the competitive spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, okay, it works. Yeah, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what it is. It's just like playing basketball,

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, the competitive they're gonna you're gonna challenge you.

0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.439
<v Speaker 2>You gotta challenge. That's what makes this more interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Right. But if the two mcs are the are the athletes,

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 5>it's the people around those that are not the athlete's.

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<v Speaker 3>Artists that do it that's the problem. Because I heard

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<v Speaker 3>I heard that.

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<v Speaker 4>You've seen BBC at a park and you called Jada Kiss.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a normal phone called told them to get in

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<v Speaker 4>the cab and you're pulled right up and squat story

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<v Speaker 4>right yeah, yeah, yeah, squashed it right there and there

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<v Speaker 4>like it was just them too.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened was being is from Philly, but we is

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<v Speaker 2>in Harlem, so I'm in Harlem. You know I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>in Harlem. So what happened was they was doing event

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<v Speaker 2>for the kids, giving away stuff and giving them free

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.200
<v Speaker 2>haircuts and different things. So I'm in the house and

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<v Speaker 2>my barber called me and was like, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>Kiss and Beans had a little situation. So he called

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<v Speaker 2>me and said, because they keep telling the story. They

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<v Speaker 2>smoked so much. God there inn week and kids they

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<v Speaker 2>tell the fucking sort this is the story. So so

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<v Speaker 2>what happened was my barber called me, tell me Beans

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<v Speaker 2>is in the park. So I was like, I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>right there, so I'll shoot to the park. I go

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 2>in there. I was like, all right, what we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>So being said with a couple of people. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what we're doing because we're trying to fix

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<v Speaker 2>this before escalation.

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<v Speaker 3>Has managed. Okay okay, okay okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that was with him?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so was with him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I ran up in the park and I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to him and I was like, what were doing because

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to fix this before they escalate, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go. It's gonna go. So he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>no good, no problem.

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<v Speaker 7>Boom.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, hold on one second. I walked out the

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 2>call kiss' see here, jump in the cab, come to

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 2>the park. So he come to the park because by myself, Yeah,

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.880
<v Speaker 2>he came by myself. Is in the crypt. He came

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<v Speaker 2>to the park. I met him at the park. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, let's go down there and go talk to

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<v Speaker 2>them so we can figure this out. So I walk

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<v Speaker 2>him down to the park. I tell him and beings

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 2>go over there and talk over there. So I let

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 2>them go over there and talk. They went over there

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<v Speaker 2>and talked. They hasted out whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>They did this after they made this records after that

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 3>or this is. This had to be after ye I

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 3>had to be after, he say, after they had already

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 3>been thising each other record this this, this, this was

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 3>they had to be after Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's washed it.

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 2>But we're going back and forth. We had to fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>So after it, so they went over there and talked.

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>And see what happens is when we get into situations

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>with any of us or anybody, and we got to

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.200
<v Speaker 2>get involved, and you tell me you ain't gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>something because I could do what I want to you

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.439
<v Speaker 2>right here, because you're in New York. I got more

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 2>than enough people with me to do what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. But I'm gonna tell you we're good. So

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>me and you catch him in Philly. You can't do

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<v Speaker 2>that because we had wet We went right here, but

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 2>we ain't do that. We I don't know what we

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<v Speaker 2>care what it was, and we let it move. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I'm trying to tell you is that he

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<v Speaker 2>go over there and you'll catch him over there. It

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<v Speaker 2>can't be no different.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it all worked out nah, I love that, man.

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 4>I see them mom, you know doing shows together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're good.

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 3>I imagine, imagine you.

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 4>Dame and V at the Highlight actually got together and

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 4>and and and form some like that would have been

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<v Speaker 4>because you know why, let me just tell you something.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe ninety percent of the artist listen to you.

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Ninety percent of the artists listen to you, and the

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 4>other five percent that I would believe IRV and Dane

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 4>would have had that, I believe the whole industry would

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<v Speaker 4>have followed.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all one hundred, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>What made y'all not do that, do something like that,

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 3>like because you're always cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we never really you know, we never really had

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 2>problems with people. Were more like it's all about the

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 2>youth for us, and you know, trying to help them

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 2>to be able to be better men and make money

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<v Speaker 2>legally without having to do the things we had to

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 2>do to get there. So everybody not gonna make it there,

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, because that's just the way it go. So

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 2>it was just something for us to do to help them,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 2>to point them in the right direction so they're still

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>around to this day. Because you know, you don't do

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the way you don't set them up right, They're gonna

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 2>go to crash and go to jail. You know, they

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 2>get locked up for little things here and there and

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe get caught with a gun well ship like that.

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>But you know they criminals. They're not murderers a drug.

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 2>They just confused kids trying to be something they not.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Earth did try to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Something, but that was what Prince said, which was kind

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 4>of far fetched because they wanted.

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 3>To build their own distribution.

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, but they was, they was trying to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying is if Dame IRV and d and

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 4>why would have got together that was all New York, right,

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 4>it would have been a much easier process for it

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:31.919
<v Speaker 4>to happen. That's the reason why, you know what I mean.

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 4>I always think like that, you know what I mean?

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.120
<v Speaker 4>And like I said, like like all the artists listen

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:38.119
<v Speaker 4>to y'all like you know what I mean.

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 3>But before we move on, I.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Want through to know, man, our show was about giving

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 4>people they flowers where they could spell them, they thoughts, where.

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 3>They can tell them they drinks while they drinking. You

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 3>want to give you the first time the original Jersey

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<v Speaker 3>On signature on.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta frame that stop learning that is you was back.

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 2>It was the biggest.

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 1>It was like.

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm over here making surely over here, you know, nothing

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>working out, no nothing else.

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 3>So the first time you ever came across X, what

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 3>was that experience?

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 2>That was the first time that X was on one

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty fifth Street and my brother already probably

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>was dealing with him a little bit, but I was

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>out of town.

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 3>So I came back in Copeland. Okay, you know, you know,

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm fucking.

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>You get that. Sure do your homework. They ain't doing

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>this or not doing.

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 3>But that's the first time you met him, because so

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 3>where was your doing?

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Was there?

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<v Speaker 2>And I wasn't really into red music like that, so

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was like, all right, let me, I'll

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 2>So when I first heard him, the first time I

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>heard him, and I was like and then when I

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 2>heard him, I was like, he's special, right, it all

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>right away?

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:19.120
<v Speaker 8>He's special, Right, He's different. Yeah, it wasn't no, He's

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 8>like he's special. That's that's all I can say. After that,

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 8>I knew it from from that point on, when it

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 8>had to do something with me with him, I was

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 8>all the way and.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 4>So I want to say something because I watched you

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 4>on the Real Report with Uncle Murder and yeah, yo,

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 4>and they asked you a question. They was like, yo,

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 4>just the ex really used to have dogs in the studio. Now,

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 4>he said, his first time he met DMX.

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 3>This is real talk.

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 4>It's the first time I've met DMX. We're in jib

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 4>what is it Battery studios and Battery Studios. I believe

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 4>it was on twenty third Street downtown, right Bolla.

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 3>So I walk in. No one knows, no one knows

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 3>who I am and knows who X is. But we're

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 3>coming up.

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>We're coming up.

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 3>We're both.

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 4>He's on one side of the studio, in the other

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 4>side of the studio.

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 3>With Jungle ex. Dog comes in.

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 4>Jungle scares him, ha ha, that's does some shit and

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 4>the dog runs out.

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not his brother for anybody. So the dog runs out.

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 3>The dog went and got X. Yo.

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Yo.

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Somebody just walked at me and swamped in. I squear

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 3>to God, I swear to God. I cannot make this

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 3>ship up. He walked in the studio, was like, y'all

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 3>don't like dogs.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, yo, he told you, you know,

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 4>like there was no would mean that left the studio

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 4>the dog.

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 3>It was just the dog and the dog.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 4>And that's when I said, I said the same shit

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 4>you said. I said, this guy, I didn't hear him rhyme.

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 4>I didn't hear him. I didn't hear him perform. I

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 4>didn't hear him do nothing, but just say, you guys

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 4>don't like dogs.

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>The dog went and told him. They told him and said, Yo,

0:29:58.800 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 3>these guys.

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 4>Don't like dogs. An x k it that's my first

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 4>time ever met me. So oh you know, you know,

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 4>x K to my house. You know I got a

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 4>dog this size. It's a tea cup yokey, and X

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 4>say you want to say, yo, you want me to

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 4>make your dog mean?

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 3>I said, what do you can do that? What are

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 3>you talking about?

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 3>My dog is this big?

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 4>Start growling at him. I never even knew my dog

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 4>was tough. My dogs just turn my tea cup yoke

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 4>to a pit bull. But alright, so so so so

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 4>all right by riders, ya got one of the illest

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 4>label deals. For lack of a better term, I believe

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 4>Jimmy I Bean was like the streets whisperer.

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Like he had sugar night, he had you, he had doctor,

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 3>he had rifles on the yo. Like how because I

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 3>mean for me.

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 4>Y'all being on Depth Jam with X and then selling

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, the amount of records of your sould. I

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 4>believe it's like ten million or something like that, the

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 4>first album and five million the first album, five million

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 4>the second album.

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, that's when it make it ten right.

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 4>But now this is like even though Depth Jam is

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 4>the big league, we all know that under that Universal

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 4>umbrella in the scope is like the big big dog,

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.479
<v Speaker 4>Like you know what I mean, it's Universal. Even though

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Universe it's named Universal. Universal had cash money. But when

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 4>you go to that Innerscope building, that budget is wide open.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 4>So let me let me let me ask you because

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 4>the Innerscope deal was a label deal, right, okay, So

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 4>so because you got XS Depth Jam, he just did

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 4>what he did.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Now, how does this work?

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Jimmy I being approaches you and say, man, let me

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 4>take everybody else.

0:31:56.360 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>He wanted to. When we first got with Jimmy, we

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>what happened, this is how we got with Jimmy. What

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>happened was we wasn't even with Jimmy yet. But what

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>happened was he had Eve Drey had Eve over there

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>and so they had it. So X came back from

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Cali and was like, oh, I got this girl.

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Boom boom boom bing.

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, a he sitting over here, so he

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 2>sent her and we was working when I was like,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>she's kind of nice. So we had to go through

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy and I being to get to get Eve because

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 2>after man, I've had it. But they couldn't do nothing

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 2>with it.

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 4>She was already negotiating the Interscope deal, like he's saying,

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 4>this is how it leads.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Up to this. So we met them through that that

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>situation first and we got out of that situation and

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 2>it really couldn't do nothing with X at that moment.

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>But we went to the first time we went to

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Cali though that that was that was secondary. But the

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 2>first time we went to Cali is that she flew

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>us out there to sign He went to sign. No.

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.719
<v Speaker 3>I never heard of this story yet, wed them.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 2>We sit down, Okay, sugar fluid. I don't even yeah

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 2>he did that because I remember when in the picture

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I seen the picture, Park was in the picture of me, Park,

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>my brother, Sugar and what else is over there's a picture.

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 3>I remember, I remember X said this.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember.

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 3>We got to show the picture, and I ain't gonna lie.

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 3>I remember saying this story. We slightly on drink cans,

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 3>look ahead.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 4>So so Sugar flew out out there first time, Ben Kelly,

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 4>and then y'all mad in the scope.

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, we met outside of the park.

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, the Meridian you okay, So hold on, hold, hold hold?

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 2>How did X?

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, how did Shug hear about X? He had

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 3>underground record.

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Of mouth people talking.

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>What happened was Sugar, Sugar. You know, he's from the street,

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm so good with Shig and you know, some

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 2>people could throw certain things and do things, and you

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 2>know that if they could take you people they do,

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 2>that's probably it was clear that that's probably not gonna

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 2>be the thing over here, you know, because it ain't know,

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's kind of like taking and not doing

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 2>the right thing with it. So if he ain't gonna

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 2>do the right thing, they don't do nothing. So I

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna do the right thing. So he did the

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>right thing not doing nothing. Wow, So we're just able

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to go back and we figured out as we go.

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>But he did fly us out there the first time

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>to Kelly, but actual to see if he can get him.

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 2>But it didn't work out. So it's all good.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 3>Alternative reality though act is that done?

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Throw?

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's because I'm asking, that's right, because what part

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 3>of ship is this?

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 6>Is? This?

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Is this when after the math is popping? Or no,

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.919
<v Speaker 5>this is death death roll. He wasn't harder after remember

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 5>after that when Dre leaves.

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.280
<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying, didn't he happen another label after after matho.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.879
<v Speaker 5>He stuck with that throw who Drea no no sug

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 5>no sugar is just death throw and just after math Okay,

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 5>remember Drake left after death Row created aftermath, right, and

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 5>then Shuk stayed with it, and that's.

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>When Puk went over.

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Well Pak went over when that's when Dre left.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Right, it was all in the school. That's Jimmy, Yeah,

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 2>it's all Jimmy.

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 4>So that's the first time you went to the first time.

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 4>For the second time, the second time is when you

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:20.439
<v Speaker 4>meet Eve.

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>You said Eve came, Eve came to New York. She

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 2>was in Kelly already with Dre and them, trying to

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 2>figure out her album and her situation with Dre and them.

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 2>X must have went over there and ran into it.

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 2>He flew back and told us about Eve.

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 3>And then so then how did how do you make

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 3>this deal happen?

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, what we did was I spoke to Jimmy. We

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>went back and forth and he was like, all right,

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 2>because Drake couldn't do nothing with him, but what Eve?

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't working out whatever it was, So he was like,

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 2>all right, we can, We'll do it. We'll give you

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>a deal and you can work the Eve project. So

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>we took that. I think we had three deals, three situations,

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 2>but she was one of them.

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Was one of them. Probably was probably was evelation.

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.439
<v Speaker 2>A compilations something, but it was those are the things.

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 2>But he was able to break on the compilation. So

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 2>it's easy to get a compilation, so you can break

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 2>different artists on and that's who you grab. So you

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 2>don't got to get a bunch of bunches. You can

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 2>have one one compilation, put everybody on it to start

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Rise out of there. That's whoever started what rises out

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 2>of there? That's what you pulled, all right.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Has there ever been an artist that you worked with

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 4>that you felt like I had all the talent but.

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Just didn't have the didn't have the dots, just didn't come.

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Across mm hmm. You know, I didn't have them, but

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of people, but I didn't sign them,

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 2>but I had them enough because me she used to

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:55.720
<v Speaker 2>be up when I had Mace, the locks X, Eve, Swiss,

0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>p K, Grease, So I had all them. So we

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 2>just we we we we had a little bit of everybody,

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>but we didn't have Big L. But my brother, My

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 2>brother used to handle him, but we didn't have him personally.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't really get a chance to work with Big L.

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>But he's from Harlem. So all the other ones that happened,

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Macon's from the same block, Cameras from the same block.

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>They're all from forty if in one in that area.

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 2>So they I had running this win all of them.

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Wow and drag on too, right.

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Dragons from the drag draggons, draggons from the b X.

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>He's good all right?

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.479
<v Speaker 5>So and well who you guys had a Southern artist?

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 5>What was was a young one, young one too, and

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 5>one was.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Good too from me from Atlanta. Yeah, So what happened

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 2>was we had them for a little bit. I don't

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 2>think we really signed him, but he used to be

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>working with us. So what happened was when the time

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 2>was going on. We had too many artists at the time,

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>so we couldn't really sign that many more people. We

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.359
<v Speaker 2>have five of it. So whoever we had left over,

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I always say I gave him to my nephew Swiss.

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, you take him, you take them

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.760
<v Speaker 2>into over there and they went to did the deal.

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Somewhere with close service Clive Davis. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 4>So let me ask you about that, because in nineteen

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 4>ninety seven I recorded a record called band from TV right, me, uh,

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 4>the locks on Styles and kisses on there Nature Cam

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 4>and me, right, it's my record, right, Big Punt and

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Big Pun. At the time, he was searching for bees

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 4>and I believe I believe Swiss was working with expert.

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 4>I believe I was the first person to work outside

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 4>of rough Riders with Swiss. And I remember I was like, yo,

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 4>so what's what's the producer's name? And they just kept saying, man,

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 4>it's these nephews. Do you remember in the period with

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 4>like Swiss didn't even have a name. They used to

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 4>call the bees And I called him d nephew. At

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 4>what boy nephew. He's like, man, my name is Swift.

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Nephew. H How did you know that. How did you

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>know that?

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 4>You because you know, working with family is good. Sometimes

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 4>working with family is horrible sometimes. How did you know

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 4>that your nephew is gonna be one of the biggest

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:18.919
<v Speaker 4>producers of all time.

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know he was gonna be He can't predict

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 2>somebody put the work in, you know, you know, you

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 2>can't never predict somebody gonna be big. You just have

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 2>to believe in them and just keep pushing them until

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 2>they get big. Some people making some people don't. You

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>just happened to make it because you know, we kept

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>a tight grip on him from a little kid. So

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 2>he was always here. He know, not smoking weed, drinking,

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 2>but I need you to focus on that, focus on that.

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 2>So he would. He used to live with me. He

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 2>was in Atlanta first, then he flew back. He stayed

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:56.240
<v Speaker 2>with me. So I lived not too far from the studio,

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 2>which is probably a couple of maybe like four miles

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>away from the house. So I said, go to the studio.

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, we had the studio on Young Bekers. So

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 2>he go to the studio and every day he would

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 2>come back the next day and I'd be like, listen

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 2>to this pace. Yeah, prep twenty five brand new beats.

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:17.240
<v Speaker 2>That's not it, that's not it, that's not it forever.

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>And then after the minute he got it, something clicked

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 2>and he got it. Yeah, so I started using his

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 2>beat because he had it, but on the takeoff it

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 2>took a little bit for him to get it, but

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 2>he got it eventually. You know what I said.

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 4>Notice about Swiss was the perfect mixture of Like he

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 4>had the Bronx obviously there you go.

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Then he had Atlanta, but then he had like some

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 3>dazz haul like you.

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 4>Could tell like he had like some type of Jamaican

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.280
<v Speaker 4>or some type of Caribbean with him, Like because yeah.

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Because he's from the Bronx on Boston Road, ain't not

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of makings.

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Over the.

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Caribbe It makes more serio. So I didn't even know that.

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 4>I just knew, like because like when I used to

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 4>work him early on, like you know, people knew who

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 4>I was, but people didn't know who I was. So

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 4>he would he would like grab like records and like

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.479
<v Speaker 4>coming to the club and we were sneaking the club,

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 4>just me and him, and like he would play the

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 4>record and no one knows it's us, and.

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 3>He'll play the record, He'll see how the people will react.

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 3>He'd be like this, ain't it And I'm like, oh, Ship,

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 3>like we just like and then we'll go to the

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 3>club the next day and he was like, Yo, this

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 3>is and then he see people like and then he's like,

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 3>now we got it.

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 4>No, And I'm like, I never knew this type of ship,

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 4>Like I've never done that with no other producer To

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 4>this day, I don't even know if I Swiss even

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 4>knows that, like makes a noise, and you see what

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 4>they do on with versus first. I think he's like

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 4>a nuer capitalist. He doesn't even show up no more.

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Like the formula you have to formula pretty good, see it.

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 4>You know we're gonna play our game and you can

0:41:54.680 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 4>get a designated drinker if you want, yes, like to

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 4>drink this for me? Put up, get chr as a

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 4>black cowboy from Harlem. Goddamn make some noise. Oh Ship,

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah, hell your block we're gonna get into block talk.

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate that.

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah yeah, hell we're gonna get it into the

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 4>block talk.

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 5>Uh. You got the big boys there, all right, We're

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 5>gonna give you, guys, We're gonna give you. And then

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna drink with us. We're gonna give you two choices.

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 5>If you pick one, we don't drink. Pick the right one,

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 5>if you know, it's really whatever up.

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 2>To you, whoever you pick.

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 5>But if you pick, if you pick one of the two,

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 5>we don't drink. But if you say both or neither,

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.919
<v Speaker 5>like you really don't want to answer you like both

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 5>of them, you don't like both of them, then we

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 5>all drink.

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 2>But we drinking. Really, he drinks when you drink.

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 5>When you say both, are neither, right, So if you

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 5>don't pick one, we drinking all right? And this is

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 5>really just to bring up names, not really each other. Yeah,

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 5>so first one is resting piece of both d M

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 5>X Biggie.

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<v Speaker 2>Which one you like the best? Yeah, you're crieteria, don't

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 2>talk crazy, whoever whoever you like better? That's like this,

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 2>that's insane. Say I'm honorable, God, look, I stand strong here.

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:39.879
<v Speaker 2>No way I can say anybody. But even though biggest good,

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, mister r Aside, how you flow it up? Okay? Cool?

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I could never get it. That's crazy, of course, resting

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 3>pieces of both style.

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 4>By the way, mister Lee who writes the questions so

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 4>won be bad at anybody with mister Lee.

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 3>He was coffee, yeah, crazy, He's up all night for

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:09.720
<v Speaker 3>this right here, he was up all.

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 5>Night all right, styles speed style, spear jadakiss.

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. That's nasty.

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:24.439
<v Speaker 3>Both Yeah, okay, you got to kill him right on time.

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Let's get him over there, thank you.

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Is that the George Clooney ship he's so sold for

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>like three hundred mill or something something crazy? God bread

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 3>already yeah, God damn it.

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 6>What you said?

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Water?

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, cheers, there you go, cheers, all go a head

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 3>you canna get this one?

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh you gotta drink when I say both.

0:44:55.600 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I might have to pick the horse anyway, that's

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 7>not that's not there.

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pick anybody now. Now you might like that.

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:22.800
<v Speaker 3>He might want to get infrared across, infra red across.

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Mhm h. I would say as far as rapping wise

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 2>infants more no infant, they both were good for inmphas

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 2>A writer Cross is a rapper infants still you know infants,

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 2>the one that wrote you know, profetial on the way. Yeah,

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 2>so Emphis more o a writed music wise all right

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 2>dragon or Memphis Bleak. I gotta say drag man, I'm

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 2>never going against nobody. You're wasting your talking about your

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 2>friend about I'm good.

0:45:55.520 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 5>With Yeah, I love that Rockefeller cash money.

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 5>Okay, all right, cheers, Okay, jay z or Nas.

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gotta say both, leave them the battle of anything.

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 2>She got it. I mean she's gonna keep coming back.

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Give my nigga the battle.

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Your vacation anyway. Come on, whenever you leave New York's vacation,

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 3>you can go to.

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Philadelphia still vacation to leave New York even missy oh, Eve,

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 4>I just told you.

0:46:54.080 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 2>He's gotta talk to you know, acting right now, like

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 2>he don't know English right now, He's like, you know

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>the thing.

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 3>It's a good one.

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, go ahead, Dame Greece a PK. That's a

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 4>good one. You pick up to day Greece. Man, listen, man,

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 4>you know liter enough props. Man, you are legend dream

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 4>champs alumna and drink Chances alumna and also big up

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 4>to PK two as well.

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Man, nice yes, man, like both of y'all.

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 2>But see Greece. He came up with us first, right,

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:34.719
<v Speaker 2>p K came in lately. So we started off with

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Dame Greece. Yes, you Bacon Luck from our block on

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 2>too nine. So we started with Dan Greece. So I

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:43.839
<v Speaker 2>gotta say Dan Greece and PK.

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 4>But Dan Greece and I love seeing the Greece and

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 4>French and Max back in the studio together. I love

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 4>seeing that man. I love seeing the original get back

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 4>to original regionality.

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, it's dark and hell is hot or flesh

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 3>of my flesh.

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I go with doking hell is. I did both of them.

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:10.919
<v Speaker 4>So did you say the same, Becau, you said the same?

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 4>No doalking hell is SI get the album changed?

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Changed life Domatic are ready to die?

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm mm hmm. I'll go ready ready to die.

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Murder anchor Junior Mafia. That's an interesting matchup. Murder Inker

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Junior Mafia. I have to go murder inc I know them.

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know nobody Mafia like that Big l or

0:48:50.040 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Big Pun Rest in peace? Both salute both day Yeah

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>both God bless, God bless, God bless. That's what I said.

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Both cool Gie rap or slick right.

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Slick right for me back then? Could be cool gi rap?

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Could you rap? I like to cool you rap? Belly

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 2>or juice Belly was in belly? Yeah, yep, there you

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 2>fucking go.

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 5>It's funny when you said that I could imagine X

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 5>and Juice for some reason, when you you know, he wasn't,

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 5>but all of a sudden, I could imagine him in Juice.

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I could I could imagine Juice.

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.359
<v Speaker 3>Rough Riders via one of rough Riders by him. Two.

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably confusing even Remember that's both, so it's both

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 2>in either way we're drinking, I say both.

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 5>Okay, you asked this one. Swiss beads are Timbaland you

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 5>gotta scold mister leeve Man.

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.839
<v Speaker 2>Didn't know what that's like me ask you your mother

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 2>on your poet. Look, Swiss is my nephew crazy? Yeah?

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:38.479
<v Speaker 2>Talking about yeah Swiss. Of course Timm it's Tim's. Timm

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 2>is good too though, Timothy him and chemistry. But that's

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 2>your blood. I gotta go with my blood. You're gonna

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 2>go with your blood, right, talk to me right, answer

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:57.320
<v Speaker 2>that question. Move deeper, m O, p mom deep Okay,

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Dre Orrizza Dre. I did music with Dre. I'm going

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 2>with people I worked with Dre before he don't me

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and working with with the projects I never really worked with.

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm only going by what I work with. Not that

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 2>I got music wise, but Drey with that heavy dear

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 2>biz Marquis, I gotta go with half. I know he

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 2>rest in peace to both n w A or Wo

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Tank Clan. I gotta go Woo Tang clan. I know

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Wu Tank Memphis. My man just talked to him two

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 2>days ago.

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 3>All Right, No, the last one and this is the

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:43.840
<v Speaker 3>last one to get back into the interview. Loyalty or respect.

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:49.880
<v Speaker 9>I'm just gonna ask me that because yeah, yeah, this

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:55.239
<v Speaker 9>is our last Yeah for me, for me the life

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 9>I lived.

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 2>People, some people can say, lord to respect, you can't look,

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 2>can't be loyal with something you don't respect. Let's be

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 2>simple with it. I don't need your loyalty. If you

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 2>don't respect me and respect me, then you can see

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:10.439
<v Speaker 2>if you respect me, you can act like you're fucking

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 2>loyal to me. Anyway. I'll take the respect. I just

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 2>it's like you're being layering me, but me telling you

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 2>fuck you and talking to you crazy. I take the

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 2>respect and the loyalty comes with that.

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 3>That makes a noise that.

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Some ice.

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Now let's let's talk about block talk, most unique hit

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:39.839
<v Speaker 3>I've ever seen. You're right on the block.

0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:40.879
<v Speaker 2>I gave you the joint.

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 4>You're right on the block. You're kicking it. What made

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:48.240
<v Speaker 4>you think of something like that? And that's that's officially

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:48.800
<v Speaker 4>a podcast.

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Correct, that's a podcast. And I got like thirty episodes

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 2>the Dope podcast, and I just it was a block.

0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I just my block I'll be on. So you know,

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I go out there, and I really do it because

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I get to let the kids come up and see

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the artists and nigga just standing there. Everybody can just

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.439
<v Speaker 2>come out see different artists because a lot of people

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 2>might not have money to go to do shows and

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.840
<v Speaker 2>go to concerts and stuff. So I bring the artist to.

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 3>The block that's fire.

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:15.720
<v Speaker 2>So the kids can just sit there and get pictures

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.319
<v Speaker 2>and take autographs. And that's it. I mean, that's one

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 2>of the main reasons I do it. Because it's open

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 2>to the public. Anybody could come walk up and do

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:23.359
<v Speaker 2>whatever they want.

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, so you you received the little black

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 4>lash like how we received. Right, I'm gonna break it

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.000
<v Speaker 4>down for you. Whenever all artists come on here like

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 4>we have. We had a Kodak black and Kodak They

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:37.440
<v Speaker 4>said that Kodak was a little high, right.

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 3>They blamed us We had Kanye come up here, he

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:43.400
<v Speaker 3>wild out. They blamed us.

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 4>So you had Baby come to your show and people

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 4>said that baby was a little high.

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say I can't say if he was high

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 2>now because I wasn't there with him, So I'll say

0:53:58.320 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give him he was tired.

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, there you go. That's I'm talking about.

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but.

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Being on the media side, do you see do you

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 4>see how how crazy that is, how guests could come

0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 4>It has nothing to do with you your hands, it's

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:15.400
<v Speaker 4>out of your hands. They're there on their own, but

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 4>they blame you for it. Do you see how that

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 4>ship is?

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they blame but I don't even know it was

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:22.919
<v Speaker 2>blameing and he ain't blame me to my face.

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 3>So right, types.

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I never even saying nothing. I don't pay attention to ship,

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 2>all right. But but he was probably tired, you know,

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:38.239
<v Speaker 2>because what happened was I'm gonna say he was tired

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:41.400
<v Speaker 2>because they was on Tall. He was on Tall, and

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:44.279
<v Speaker 2>so he happened to come to my block because he

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 2>was doing something in Jersey. He wasn't false, so he's like, yo,

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna come over and do the park. He came

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:51.359
<v Speaker 2>over to the block and he didn't. Then he went

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 2>back to the concerts. They probably was tired.

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:55.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, baby, real like that too many?

0:54:56.320 --> 0:55:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Kevin, all these there's twenty thirty years. I know

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm always the same, respect the same. I'm gonna have

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to say tired. I ain't gonna say.

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 4>I respect that now. Being in this game as long

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 4>as you've been in. Like me, I used to say

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't have regrets, but me I do. I do

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 4>see that I could have played certain things better. Is

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 4>there anything that you wish you would have did that

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 4>you didn't do.

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 2>But in the music?

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, probably.

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 6>Mm.

0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:39.319
<v Speaker 2>I already know. I don't think about regrets too tough.

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:42.160
<v Speaker 2>For what's these things I did, I was able to

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 2>pick them. You might have regret. I already don't regrets.

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, maybe not regret.

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Maybe something you wish you would have done differently, Maybe

0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:56.120
<v Speaker 4>not a regret.

0:55:56.239 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we probably you know. For me, the main

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 2>focus was that I probably would hope I could have

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 2>got him some more help, but he was fighting against it.

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:11.879
<v Speaker 2>So I regret that I wasn't able to do because

0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:15.560
<v Speaker 2>he's uncontrolla but I was nothing able to meet the

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 2>men like I were one or two, because you know,

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I talked to him most of the time, all the

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.360
<v Speaker 2>way to the day he passed. But I regret that

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:24.880
<v Speaker 2>he couldn't change his you know, change his habits. I

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 2>think that he was fighting against his things. Regret I

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:28.560
<v Speaker 2>couldn't save him from that.

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:30.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, the last two weeks of acts of life,

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 4>prior to the last two weeks, huh, last six weeks,

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:38.080
<v Speaker 4>you know he was living out here, was every every day,

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 4>like I've seen the difference. Like I would meet him,

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 4>he would come on time, he would do you know,

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 4>you got the worst reputation of being late, and he

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:50.239
<v Speaker 4>was coming on times. We were like, we were like, yo, yo,

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 4>this is episode.

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.240
<v Speaker 3>He was like that's the best. He looked so healthy

0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:55.760
<v Speaker 3>and happy.

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean.

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 4>And you know what's crazy was he had never he

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 4>had never met Benny the Butcher. So I had just

0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 4>posted a picture with me and X and Benning the

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:09.360
<v Speaker 4>Butcher had hit me and he and he was like,

0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 4>he was like, yo, I never met X and I

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:11.759
<v Speaker 4>did a song with X.

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:12.279
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 4>He's like, is it okay that I pull up on y'all?

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 4>I was like yeah, and beting the butcher pulled up.

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 4>We all got pictures, we all did that. But then

0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:24.240
<v Speaker 4>it was crazy because I think the next week after

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 4>that act like yo, I'm going to Atlanta, and we

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 4>was having so much fun. Like Lee said, it was

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 4>six weeks leading up to that. We were together every day.

0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 4>So I was like having so so much fun. It's

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 4>like your friend going going to summer campus stuff.

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be like chill man.

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be like, nah, man, don't go nowhere

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:40.120
<v Speaker 3>like chill.

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 4>But you know, it was a grown man like and

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.960
<v Speaker 4>we and then he went to Atlanta and then that's

0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 4>when he went to New York and there was something

0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 4>about him going to New York.

0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 3>So let me let me flip and bounce it. Yeah,

0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:53.560
<v Speaker 3>he was saying that to me. Yeah, so let me

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 3>flip and bounce it. Right.

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 4>IRV, who also passed away, God bless to Dad and

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 4>recip peace acts as well. But it was a time

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 4>where people were acts in the hospital, right, and IRV

0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 4>sends out a tweet or something, and there was rumors

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:17.720
<v Speaker 4>like all of y'all was mad at him because he

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 4>had like over preached his ground.

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm talking about.

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I think I think I remember you spoke. I think

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 2>he spoke a little bit ahead. I had a situation

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 2>that we was going through with X. Price spoke before

0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 2>we was want people to know the family was ready.

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I remember that.

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 3>You ever got to work that out with Earth.

0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:45.920
<v Speaker 2>That's that's you know, you make mistakes. It's not like

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:48.960
<v Speaker 2>he's doing intentionally. Some people just that's just what they do.

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, he was grieving to as well, you know

0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 2>what I mean was close just talking about.

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 5>How was how was the dynamic as ex as an

0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:01.640
<v Speaker 5>artist and you guys being the label trying to put

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 5>out these projects like I would imagine you guys.

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Would clash a lot, or would you not clash with X?

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Like trying to get things done every day.

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:13.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's like.

0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to understand how y'all even got things done.

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you how you got what the That's

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.560
<v Speaker 2>a good that's a good question. This is the tricky is.

0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Remember I told you he had a selective memory, right,

0:59:24.920 --> 0:59:30.880
<v Speaker 2>So I paid them for songs probably four years before

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 2>we even did music. We didn't even know about music deals,

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and it was on the block, was out there husting.

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't we do what he would bring me around so

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:42.040
<v Speaker 2>all the time, and as long as you can remember

0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 2>a bar or two, nothing the whole song. Just say

0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:53.560
<v Speaker 2>you remember that song. You'd be like, yeah, I remember

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 2>the song, but I said, this the whole song, you

0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:57.720
<v Speaker 2>go on the booth and late. That's how I was

0:59:57.720 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 2>getting the songs. He already had them in his head already.

1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:02.040
<v Speaker 2>He might write once in the Blue a song, but

1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:04.320
<v Speaker 2>most of the rounds he would off the top of

1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 2>his head. If I just tell him a part of

1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the round, he could say the whole round after that.

1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 2>So that's how I was able to get two albums

1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 2>in one year, because he had the rhums over it.

1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:18.400
<v Speaker 2>There it's just been sitting around right then he just said.

1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Did you'll ever get to the point where y'all like,

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:21.800
<v Speaker 3>I can't do this anymore?

1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 2>But what with X? Like working with them with each other? Never? Never?

1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean X X wasn't no problem for us, you

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. We just was trying to save

1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:35.480
<v Speaker 2>him and he had the problem. Yeah, he was the problem.

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:37.240
<v Speaker 2>We ain't the problem. We just had to save him.

1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:41.640
<v Speaker 2>It was complicated. He didn't really worry about He wasn't

1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:44.800
<v Speaker 2>stuck on material stuff. Same he ain't care about nothing

1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:48.200
<v Speaker 2>that we gotta go to Grammy and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll talk to him way over there and you gotta

1:00:53.040 --> 1:00:54.760
<v Speaker 2>find him. And he trying to mister Grandwall twice. He

1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 2>mister Grammy twice and was one of the TV that

1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:04.040
<v Speaker 2>getting awards. He's out there flying planes. He wasn't. He

1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:07.040
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that type of person that cad the ball the thing.

1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:07.760
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in the week spot with him. Bro, I

1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:16.760
<v Speaker 3>ain't gonna lie. Listen, I don't know whether he was

1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:20.120
<v Speaker 3>there stay long with you. He definitely did.

1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:20.720
<v Speaker 2>He did.

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<v Speaker 4>But I went and I was like and I was like,

1:01:23.560 --> 1:01:25.600
<v Speaker 4>I was just talking to him, and then I realized

1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:28.840
<v Speaker 4>or the TV flash because it was like mtvs dm

1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 4>X and I'm looking like, wait a minute, nigga, you're

1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:33.080
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be in the MTV Awards.

1:01:33.120 --> 1:01:39.360
<v Speaker 3>He's like, you know, they would be in the.

1:01:39.400 --> 1:01:41.840
<v Speaker 4>Crowd, like to say, to be a seat filler, like

1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:45.120
<v Speaker 4>you nominated. Like he didn't give a fuck, bro, he

1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:47.320
<v Speaker 4>didn't give a fuck. It was a spot right around

1:01:47.360 --> 1:01:50.080
<v Speaker 4>k Slave's house. Real the sweeter God spreading all the

1:01:50.520 --> 1:01:51.040
<v Speaker 4>world up.

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<v Speaker 2>But what what what?

1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:55.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, people don't like to do the what

1:01:55.880 --> 1:01:58.360
<v Speaker 4>epis or whatever, but let's just just for lack of

1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:01.760
<v Speaker 4>a better term, do you think Escas vibe in this

1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:03.280
<v Speaker 4>day and time and his music.

1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:05.360
<v Speaker 3>In this climate.

1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's a true artist. So you know these people,

1:02:10.160 --> 1:02:13.040
<v Speaker 2>some most is not true artists. You know, they get

1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:14.840
<v Speaker 2>a good song and they make it from there. It's

1:02:14.880 --> 1:02:18.520
<v Speaker 2>not like you know, he was able to deliver album. See,

1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:23.320
<v Speaker 2>you don't got delivered. We had to give up fifteen

1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:27.760
<v Speaker 2>sixteen songs per album his skits, that's eighteen songs. You know,

1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:30.880
<v Speaker 2>he had to do all that. So he'd probably be

1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:32.640
<v Speaker 2>able to make it because what you got to deliver

1:02:32.760 --> 1:02:35.680
<v Speaker 2>four album right now? Ten songs eight songs.

1:02:35.440 --> 1:02:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ten two minute thirty second songs.

1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:41.120
<v Speaker 2>So he gets yeah, one album is two albums for us.

1:02:41.200 --> 1:02:43.400
<v Speaker 5>Back then, Yeah, he probably would have just been been

1:02:43.480 --> 1:02:45.640
<v Speaker 5>doing fine, just performing the music that he already had

1:02:45.680 --> 1:02:47.880
<v Speaker 5>the catalog festivals, because.

1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:50.600
<v Speaker 3>His performances were crazy. He was by himself on.

1:02:50.680 --> 1:02:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Stage, but that was that was one of his strongest

1:02:55.720 --> 1:02:59.720
<v Speaker 2>points that his performance, like he said, was he didn't

1:02:59.720 --> 1:03:01.640
<v Speaker 2>even while here on the stage with him. It was

1:03:01.800 --> 1:03:04.520
<v Speaker 2>it was it was his energy and his love for

1:03:04.640 --> 1:03:07.320
<v Speaker 2>impassion for the music in the crowd. So he just

1:03:07.400 --> 1:03:09.400
<v Speaker 2>knew how to do that. He mastered that already.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so I'm bouncing around a little bit, right again,

1:03:13.800 --> 1:03:16.840
<v Speaker 4>how much? How much do you think because like obviously

1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:20.200
<v Speaker 4>rough Riders, we didn't know that it was a uh

1:03:20.640 --> 1:03:22.680
<v Speaker 4>name of the black cowboys, right, we didn't know that, right,

1:03:22.720 --> 1:03:25.439
<v Speaker 4>We know that it's just you know, rough, rough people

1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:28.120
<v Speaker 4>and you know riders like riders, right. But then Eve

1:03:28.240 --> 1:03:30.680
<v Speaker 4>comes and it brings like a so I don't want

1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:33.760
<v Speaker 4>to say softens y'all up because it doesn't, but it

1:03:33.880 --> 1:03:37.680
<v Speaker 4>brings a different caliber of people because after all, she's

1:03:37.800 --> 1:03:39.240
<v Speaker 4>she's a pit bull in the skirt, but she is

1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:41.960
<v Speaker 4>in a skirt, she is a female, So it brings

1:03:42.040 --> 1:03:46.040
<v Speaker 4>a different audience, especially with the grin Stefani like kind

1:03:46.080 --> 1:03:48.640
<v Speaker 4>of like kind of like brought that commercial ads to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Did Did the company change because of that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, she was she's a girl, pitbull in the skirt. Yeah,

1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:02.320
<v Speaker 2>she's still a dog now one of the boys. She's

1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:05.200
<v Speaker 2>just a girl. We treated her. We ain't treat it

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<v Speaker 2>no different, you know, she just she just was able

1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:09.360
<v Speaker 2>some people able to blend in with the guys. And

1:04:09.800 --> 1:04:11.600
<v Speaker 2>then get along with all the guys and they don't

1:04:11.640 --> 1:04:13.240
<v Speaker 2>really bother us. So she was kind of brough. She

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<v Speaker 2>comes from Philly, you know, they kind of brought over

1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:18.480
<v Speaker 2>there as well, so she was she felt in placed.

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<v Speaker 2>She know, she was good.

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<v Speaker 4>I met her early and she was down with Dre.

1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:25.640
<v Speaker 4>I did a record with her. Her name was Eve

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<v Speaker 4>of Destruction. It was even Destruction, and I did a

1:04:29.360 --> 1:04:32.160
<v Speaker 4>record for her. It was crazy because now I just

1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:34.040
<v Speaker 4>did a record with Dre. I believe one of Dre's

1:04:34.080 --> 1:04:35.640
<v Speaker 4>people hit me and that's why.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we connected and and I flew flew the Philly.

1:04:40.880 --> 1:04:42.600
<v Speaker 4>I drove to Philly and I did a record with her.

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<v Speaker 4>Book this before.

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<v Speaker 3>But all right, boom, we got Scarlet right now, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got Scarlet right now. I'm working I'm working

1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:57.960
<v Speaker 2>on project now. We're working on on on her album

1:04:58.000 --> 1:05:01.040
<v Speaker 2>out now. So we're okay. The cars cars. Scar's good.

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<v Speaker 2>She's serious.

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<v Speaker 4>She she belongs in the nineties, so bad man, Like yo,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be like yo, she belongs in our era, Like

1:05:11.080 --> 1:05:14.280
<v Speaker 4>if you could just be wine time because she's so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid she's like.

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<v Speaker 4>She like belonging our era, Like you ever got to

1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:25.160
<v Speaker 4>hear like she's like bah, She's like I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm just I'm just this error is so moist

1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:36.320
<v Speaker 4>and so so moist and nights. You know what I'm

1:05:36.320 --> 1:05:38.680
<v Speaker 4>saying that I don't understand, Like like.

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<v Speaker 3>She's so real. It's like damn, like like you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Like she needs help.

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<v Speaker 4>You need more real artists to come out because she's

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<v Speaker 4>so dope.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you know what I mean, Like I just

1:05:48.920 --> 1:05:51.040
<v Speaker 3>feel like this era is so soft, Like you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what her favorite artist is that she get

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<v Speaker 2>out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell that if you listen.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, she sound put off from X like a

1:06:02.360 --> 1:06:06.880
<v Speaker 2>delivery is idol artist is you're talking about Scarlet?

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<v Speaker 3>Scarlet?

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<v Speaker 2>Scarlet?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course we've heard of Scarlet. Scarlet.

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<v Speaker 4>We did.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you do a monster thing?

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<v Speaker 4>We did?

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<v Speaker 5>We did?

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<v Speaker 2>We did.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time he said scarlet, I thought it was Scarlet

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<v Speaker 3>that you were No, no, no, no, scar lit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I just talked to her before

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<v Speaker 2>I got it. I just called up. Yeah. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see it.

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<v Speaker 3>As to me, she's already established in my mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Because she's she got the underground, she got the underground,

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<v Speaker 4>she got she don't need no help on the underground,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? But you know that overall

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<v Speaker 4>because it's like in these days, like you know, crazy

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<v Speaker 4>Ship is like speaking about X, like like I've never

1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:54.560
<v Speaker 4>seen X, like like do something that didn't look like X.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this day and time, you have to like

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<v Speaker 3>do something like like.

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<v Speaker 4>Even with the loss, like I didn't know this tiny

1:07:00.320 --> 1:07:03.479
<v Speaker 4>suits was was bad like nil they No, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I saw the show. I wanted to sign the suit.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest of us like I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get one.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm just saying, yeah, but want I want to

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<v Speaker 5>get into that campaign about free the locks, Like me,

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<v Speaker 5>that's a historic campaign. I know you talked about it

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<v Speaker 5>a lot, but I mean, I want to just go

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<v Speaker 5>over it again because I think it's a part of

1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:28.480
<v Speaker 5>hip hop history at this point to get them off

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<v Speaker 5>the label. And bad Boy was a strong label at

1:07:31.200 --> 1:07:33.840
<v Speaker 5>that time. Puff is a strong force. How did how

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<v Speaker 5>did that all.

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<v Speaker 4>Body just run into bad Boy? They run to get

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<v Speaker 4>How does that work? Like what happens there?

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<v Speaker 2>See, they were signing the bad Boys at that time, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so they wanted to get out. They didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be there no more, no longer.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you sign on the bad boy or they was

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<v Speaker 3>signed a bad boy.

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<v Speaker 2>They were signing the bad Boys. I had manager, remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So they wound up getting to deal with bad Boy.

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<v Speaker 2>They got to deal with bad Boy and she got

1:07:57.840 --> 1:08:00.200
<v Speaker 2>to deal with bad Boy. But then they wanted off

1:08:00.240 --> 1:08:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and Mace wanted to stay, you know, because he's good

1:08:01.720 --> 1:08:04.560
<v Speaker 2>with the shiny shoes. He was good. They didn't. It

1:08:04.720 --> 1:08:07.800
<v Speaker 2>wasn't comfortable. These guys were called the Warlocks. But we

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<v Speaker 2>had wall, you know, so so they wanted out. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>parf is pretty firm or not letting nobody out without

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<v Speaker 2>getting his money or certain things. So he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really let too many people out of the contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>You just sit there and you're just burn. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about We'll we'll come back and get you

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<v Speaker 2>later ten years from now. But but but I had

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<v Speaker 2>I had a relationship with Paul, and this is with

1:08:36.479 --> 1:08:40.760
<v Speaker 2>a relationship, so I didn't even notice. So Pop's father

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<v Speaker 2>and my father were best friends. Get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>So they grew up in Patterson in the Bronx. So

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<v Speaker 2>they're from Patterson Projects. Some my pops called me and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tell Papa I wanted to sit down and

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<v Speaker 2>talk to me, So tell him about his father because

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<v Speaker 2>father I got killed right street dude, Yeah, yeah, was

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<v Speaker 2>the housel and they wound up murdering them. And my

1:09:02.560 --> 1:09:03.880
<v Speaker 2>pap told me he wanted to speak to him, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was his friend son, so I was like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And then me and him got close after that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking after puffing and make sure you're good

1:09:11.160 --> 1:09:14.920
<v Speaker 2>and everything. So puff is really family technique right in

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<v Speaker 2>that way.

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<v Speaker 6>M didn't you have Mace and you gave it to

1:09:19.160 --> 1:09:21.560
<v Speaker 6>Mace that both wanted the launch and you said, no,

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<v Speaker 6>take this artist, and I mean DM MASI wanted like that,

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<v Speaker 6>and Mace Mace.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave him. I gave him. You know what, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think I had me signed. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we just had him with us, and they all used

1:09:35.080 --> 1:09:38.200
<v Speaker 2>to be in the studio with us, so we we

1:09:39.560 --> 1:09:41.320
<v Speaker 2>we had to influence it get him sign and well

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<v Speaker 2>we could have signed them. I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know the business like that. We're just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure it out, you know it. Here take

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<v Speaker 2>them and our management. And then I learned the business

1:09:49.240 --> 1:09:51.000
<v Speaker 2>as I'm going so I was able to go on

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<v Speaker 2>tour do everything. So when I did get a deal

1:09:53.360 --> 1:09:56.880
<v Speaker 2>for X, I already knew how to do everything about

1:09:56.920 --> 1:09:58.800
<v Speaker 2>it took him. I wouldn't have got him as far

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<v Speaker 2>as Puff got him.

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<v Speaker 3>But but but still staying on that the Locks campaign.

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<v Speaker 5>You had the relationship with Puff, but that campaign still

1:10:06.360 --> 1:10:08.080
<v Speaker 5>went down and was saying free the Locks.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure Puff didn't like the campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't do the naice business. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell them not to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>So they did. That was their campaign. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what they want to do, and that's want

1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:20.560
<v Speaker 2>to help them get it is. See see me and

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<v Speaker 2>Puff is good. Me and Puff business ain't good, but

1:10:24.000 --> 1:10:25.840
<v Speaker 2>we're good. The business is not good because it ain't

1:10:25.880 --> 1:10:28.240
<v Speaker 2>just himing like. It's just business. It's not personal. Yeah,

1:10:28.320 --> 1:10:30.000
<v Speaker 2>other people involved Puff ain't thing they want to make

1:10:30.000 --> 1:10:31.920
<v Speaker 2>an these decisions. It look like he is. But there's

1:10:31.920 --> 1:10:34.000
<v Speaker 2>two three people over there. Tell them do it, do this,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we got They gotta do what they gotta

1:10:36.520 --> 1:10:38.000
<v Speaker 2>do to get where they gotta go. I can't sell them.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't fight back. Do whatever you gotta do. Let's do

1:10:40.960 --> 1:10:43.479
<v Speaker 2>whatever whatever it's gonna take to get them to move

1:10:43.520 --> 1:10:45.400
<v Speaker 2>and get you off this and get to a better place.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're gonna do. So that's it. Worn't gotten.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, that was that was That was a time boy.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the lock.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And did he actually let them go?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah without the money. It wasn't pretty. You ain't walking

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<v Speaker 2>out the door. It's not like you're walking out the

1:11:06.640 --> 1:11:08.960
<v Speaker 2>door and you're good. No, nigga, I'm gonna let him go.

1:11:09.520 --> 1:11:11.479
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, he said, yeah, you know what,

1:11:11.960 --> 1:11:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let him go. Then when you know when

1:11:14.840 --> 1:11:17.200
<v Speaker 2>people say I'm gonna let him go and you listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let him go. But the butt is what

1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:24.479
<v Speaker 2>you want to hear. You don't want to don't worry

1:11:24.479 --> 1:11:26.439
<v Speaker 2>about that of them go. We want to hit the butt.

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<v Speaker 2>But I gotta get compensated. So I have to give

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<v Speaker 2>him three million get him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we knew that part of the story. No,

1:11:34.600 --> 1:11:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that part of the story. So damn.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then Jay erased X contract right yep.

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<v Speaker 2>J J did an honorable move. And a lot of

1:11:45.880 --> 1:11:48.080
<v Speaker 2>these things with relationship was it wasn't nothing to do

1:11:48.160 --> 1:11:50.840
<v Speaker 2>with the ours. It was probably the relationship I had

1:11:50.880 --> 1:11:53.040
<v Speaker 2>with them, Me and whole was good. We had a

1:11:53.080 --> 1:11:55.960
<v Speaker 2>good report him and actually probably never even talked, but

1:11:56.200 --> 1:11:58.599
<v Speaker 2>me and him had a good report. And I asked him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know exers up there he had he was the

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<v Speaker 2>president of death Cham full of the Yeah, I was

1:12:02.640 --> 1:12:05.040
<v Speaker 2>as there. So he wanted to get out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably was in a hole for like eight million

1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:10.000
<v Speaker 2>or four million, whatever it was, but he was in

1:12:10.080 --> 1:12:12.720
<v Speaker 2>the big hole over here. So I went up there

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<v Speaker 2>and I spoke to him one ding and I was like,

1:12:14.520 --> 1:12:16.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, he should do me a favor. I don't

1:12:16.880 --> 1:12:18.960
<v Speaker 2>want to be here no more. He's not comfortable. You

1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:21.559
<v Speaker 2>prefer to see if he can just go somewhere else.

1:12:22.240 --> 1:12:25.080
<v Speaker 2>He's like, all right, let me think about it. Calling

1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:27.160
<v Speaker 2>back another time he came back, he said, all right,

1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I know what to do. I'm gonna let him go

1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:31.120
<v Speaker 2>on my wife out the whole day. He let him

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<v Speaker 2>go and have to pay nothing. That's dope.

1:12:34.320 --> 1:12:35.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's dope. It's making nice.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get hold of his props on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, nothing knows what I was doing, but

1:12:40.920 --> 1:12:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I know that I always respect him for one thousand percent.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a little bit while were you in this subject.

1:12:51.320 --> 1:12:53.280
<v Speaker 4>I was, I was mentioning it earlier. Like me as

1:12:53.360 --> 1:12:56.040
<v Speaker 4>a person, you know, I worked with y'all, but I

1:12:56.360 --> 1:12:59.080
<v Speaker 4>was never like directly under a rough rider as a

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<v Speaker 4>Rockefeller or whatever. But I know that when y'all was

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<v Speaker 4>in power, Uh, when black CEOs, I would like to

1:13:06.360 --> 1:13:08.080
<v Speaker 4>say that, I would like to say that black CEOs

1:13:08.160 --> 1:13:13.760
<v Speaker 4>you they irv J Prince Shug Like when y'all was

1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:17.599
<v Speaker 4>at the forefront, the music business seems a lot better.

1:13:18.840 --> 1:13:21.040
<v Speaker 4>It seems a lot better when we have our people

1:13:21.400 --> 1:13:22.439
<v Speaker 4>representing our people.

1:13:23.120 --> 1:13:25.479
<v Speaker 3>Do you like since the.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it called the missing, missing, missing version of

1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:32.599
<v Speaker 4>of you know, the street ceo?

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<v Speaker 3>What's my man named? Riggs?

1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Riggs Morales, like Sam Cresco, like certain people Mike Kaiser

1:13:39.960 --> 1:13:41.680
<v Speaker 4>even like you know what I mean, Like all of

1:13:41.720 --> 1:13:43.919
<v Speaker 4>these CEOs is going and now it's like the industry

1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:45.360
<v Speaker 4>is disposed.

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<v Speaker 3>To do music. Do you think that was like purposely

1:13:47.120 --> 1:13:47.519
<v Speaker 3>like no more.

1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Hip hop CEOs, no more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, That's what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think when I look at it, because I've

1:13:53.320 --> 1:13:58.280
<v Speaker 2>seen the transition from from from here the corporate taking

1:13:58.360 --> 1:14:00.840
<v Speaker 2>over another streets of most of the from the streets

1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:03.240
<v Speaker 2>that was doing it before. Then they put corporate people

1:14:03.320 --> 1:14:05.080
<v Speaker 2>to do it and they don't know nothing about the

1:14:05.200 --> 1:14:08.120
<v Speaker 2>music and the culture. They're just getting jobs and checks.

1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:09.840
<v Speaker 2>They learning how to work with us. And then so

1:14:10.040 --> 1:14:13.120
<v Speaker 2>now they're begging on one hit. Wonder if they get

1:14:13.160 --> 1:14:15.599
<v Speaker 2>a lucky song or maybe before we had to work

1:14:15.640 --> 1:14:18.040
<v Speaker 2>this whole project all the way through from the streets,

1:14:18.320 --> 1:14:20.960
<v Speaker 2>from the start, from the streets, so we know where

1:14:20.960 --> 1:14:23.080
<v Speaker 2>we're going from here to there. We do we do

1:14:24.080 --> 1:14:26.680
<v Speaker 2>fifteen songs. We picked three singles that we know we

1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:28.920
<v Speaker 2>can bet our money on and that now you ain't

1:14:28.960 --> 1:14:30.640
<v Speaker 2>got to do that. You know, they hoping they get

1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:32.920
<v Speaker 2>one single and they good. They're trying to get more money.

1:14:33.720 --> 1:14:36.360
<v Speaker 2>They happen to spend, you know, because they were spending

1:14:36.360 --> 1:14:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money back then. But they're not recruit

1:14:38.920 --> 1:14:42.280
<v Speaker 2>because the artists might not sell right, So they found

1:14:42.320 --> 1:14:44.719
<v Speaker 2>out a way to get around spending a lot of money.

1:14:45.960 --> 1:14:48.960
<v Speaker 3>So it was because because I remember, like and let's

1:14:49.000 --> 1:14:49.720
<v Speaker 3>not forget right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, the tech companies are like the record labels capital

1:14:53.160 --> 1:14:56.040
<v Speaker 5>social media. But I'm saying like all social media or

1:14:56.120 --> 1:14:59.280
<v Speaker 5>the Spotify there, it's all social media really at the

1:14:59.360 --> 1:15:02.960
<v Speaker 5>end of the day, streaming and whether it be Spotify

1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:04.800
<v Speaker 5>and Instagram, it's really all the same shit.

1:15:04.920 --> 1:15:06.599
<v Speaker 2>It's all connected, you know, right right.

1:15:08.160 --> 1:15:11.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's fucked up. That's sucked up.

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<v Speaker 4>But do you think getting rid of the Black CEO

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<v Speaker 4>was a purpose thing? I'm sorry to ask you the

1:15:17.080 --> 1:15:19.160
<v Speaker 4>question in a different way, but you think that was

1:15:19.200 --> 1:15:22.000
<v Speaker 4>done on purpose or it's just evolution.

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<v Speaker 2>They really can't get rid of us, you know, they

1:15:25.040 --> 1:15:27.719
<v Speaker 2>just make it difficult for you. Yeah, so you can't

1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:30.360
<v Speaker 2>get to a certain way, They put up roadblocks and

1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:33.280
<v Speaker 2>make it difficult. And you know you are who you are,

1:15:33.840 --> 1:15:35.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know I'm gonna CEO. I'm gonna be

1:15:35.720 --> 1:15:37.960
<v Speaker 2>that until I say I don't want to be that.

1:15:38.120 --> 1:15:40.320
<v Speaker 2>They can't stop me from being that. They can make

1:15:40.320 --> 1:15:42.200
<v Speaker 2>it hard for you. And then what they did was

1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:45.240
<v Speaker 2>just change the games. They started making things difficult for you,

1:15:45.479 --> 1:15:47.720
<v Speaker 2>the artists and everybody else. And they just knew that

1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:49.800
<v Speaker 2>because they wanted to keep a grip on it, because

1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:52.439
<v Speaker 2>before they didn't have a grip because they had to

1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:54.640
<v Speaker 2>pay us. See before they had to pay we saw X,

1:15:54.720 --> 1:15:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Y and Z. When we need twenty million, you got

1:15:57.760 --> 1:15:59.800
<v Speaker 2>to pay you that for the next situation because you

1:16:00.120 --> 1:16:02.320
<v Speaker 2>just to the business now. So they had to figure

1:16:02.360 --> 1:16:04.599
<v Speaker 2>out how can we do So that's when they say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, You remember when they did this said,

1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:09.479
<v Speaker 2>because we was from New York and we were selling

1:16:09.520 --> 1:16:10.920
<v Speaker 2>it at the time the most and were making the

1:16:11.000 --> 1:16:13.720
<v Speaker 2>most money. They knew that we understood the business after

1:16:13.760 --> 1:16:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the while, so they couldn't give us a check for

1:16:16.200 --> 1:16:18.519
<v Speaker 2>a million dollars. They know we need ten million because

1:16:18.520 --> 1:16:21.360
<v Speaker 2>we know the numbers. Now you know the numbers, we understand.

1:16:21.600 --> 1:16:24.639
<v Speaker 2>So they said, you know what, let's put them on freeze.

1:16:24.680 --> 1:16:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't give them no work for a minute. They put

1:16:26.880 --> 1:16:29.040
<v Speaker 2>New York on freeze, and we weren't able to do things.

1:16:29.120 --> 1:16:31.280
<v Speaker 2>They went to the South and went over there and

1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:34.000
<v Speaker 2>start bringing in a lot of self artists and different

1:16:34.040 --> 1:16:36.880
<v Speaker 2>things and making it easier because they just wanted to

1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:38.559
<v Speaker 2>get in the baby so they can cut them short

1:16:40.120 --> 1:16:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and give them peanuts instead of giving us. They take

1:16:42.760 --> 1:16:44.599
<v Speaker 2>that ten millionaires supposed to get us and probably could

1:16:44.600 --> 1:16:46.559
<v Speaker 2>do half of the self There wasn't no problem because

1:16:46.560 --> 1:16:48.639
<v Speaker 2>they wasn't really they just wanted to get in the game.

1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:51.200
<v Speaker 2>And that's how they switched it because they know they

1:16:51.240 --> 1:16:53.200
<v Speaker 2>froze a lot of New York artists for a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>Makes a lot of sense. So, Okay, what the I'm

1:17:02.439 --> 1:17:07.600
<v Speaker 4>about to say? Okay, you something I forgot what I

1:17:07.600 --> 1:17:08.040
<v Speaker 4>was about to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to remember it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the story about the J Store on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifth or what the J and DMX battle? No Jay,

1:17:16.560 --> 1:17:18.560
<v Speaker 3>the story this story? Oh I know what I was

1:17:18.560 --> 1:17:20.840
<v Speaker 3>about to say. Hold on, remember that. Remember that. Remember

1:17:20.880 --> 1:17:23.560
<v Speaker 3>that you was around.

1:17:23.800 --> 1:17:28.600
<v Speaker 4>During the greatest time of hip hop and now you

1:17:29.479 --> 1:17:33.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you you cut on your social media.

1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:37.120
<v Speaker 4>Now when you come your social media, you see day

1:17:37.640 --> 1:17:42.320
<v Speaker 4>this and k like never in a million years, like

1:17:42.760 --> 1:17:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I still think this is ai. I still think like

1:17:46.080 --> 1:17:48.240
<v Speaker 4>like somebody be like, hey, I was fooling you all

1:17:48.280 --> 1:17:50.639
<v Speaker 4>this whole time. Like I still feel like that because

1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:53.479
<v Speaker 4>I just can't believe it. Like and I remember them,

1:17:53.920 --> 1:17:59.519
<v Speaker 4>like I remember them three being inseparable, Bigs day and

1:18:00.280 --> 1:18:01.920
<v Speaker 4>And let me tell you something that I've probably never

1:18:02.000 --> 1:18:05.360
<v Speaker 4>said this. You know, I asked a couple of times, uh,

1:18:05.520 --> 1:18:08.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, Biggs, Biggs, Biggs manage drink Champs. I mean,

1:18:09.040 --> 1:18:13.400
<v Speaker 4>and I've asked Biggs and I've asked Jay like a

1:18:14.160 --> 1:18:16.560
<v Speaker 4>few times that I've been around them and they have

1:18:16.680 --> 1:18:17.840
<v Speaker 4>nothing bad to say about Dame.

1:18:18.439 --> 1:18:22.400
<v Speaker 3>I swear to God, they don't have nothing bad about him. Bro,

1:18:22.680 --> 1:18:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I swear to God.

1:18:23.479 --> 1:18:25.960
<v Speaker 4>But it is did you did you ever think that

1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:28.360
<v Speaker 4>you would have to put on your phone and see

1:18:28.400 --> 1:18:29.680
<v Speaker 4>that Dame dashes.

1:18:29.400 --> 1:18:30.280
<v Speaker 3>This is Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they remember, like you said, they was close. They

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<v Speaker 2>was Damon Biggs and it was there was you know,

1:18:36.880 --> 1:18:40.439
<v Speaker 2>there was a team. So you know, people get older,

1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:43.600
<v Speaker 2>they grow up and and things happen, you know, so

1:18:44.920 --> 1:18:47.599
<v Speaker 2>whole went this way, Dame went that way, Bigs went

1:18:47.640 --> 1:18:50.920
<v Speaker 2>whenever way he went. But they're still probably good. But

1:18:51.160 --> 1:18:53.080
<v Speaker 2>in the eyes of the people in social media, so

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, they can make a lot of things

1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:57.400
<v Speaker 2>and say things. I think Dame is doing it for

1:18:57.520 --> 1:19:00.240
<v Speaker 2>potention and different things. I don't think. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like I hate you. It's just it's working for him.

1:19:03.040 --> 1:19:05.760
<v Speaker 2>People are watching them and he understands how this worked.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, because I see you on Queen's flip, I believe

1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:11.320
<v Speaker 4>and I believe he asked you the same question, or

1:19:11.439 --> 1:19:12.679
<v Speaker 4>how did the problems start?

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<v Speaker 3>And you were alluded. You didn't say definitely, but he

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<v Speaker 3>said it might have been a leah.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>That was something that I had found out way later

1:19:24.840 --> 1:19:28.200
<v Speaker 2>because he was dating Leah. I think Dane was Danty.

1:19:28.400 --> 1:19:30.479
<v Speaker 2>Anytime you're doing shit like that, so it's gonna go wrong.

1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:32.400
<v Speaker 2>So I don't even know why they did that. Anyway,

1:19:32.439 --> 1:19:35.240
<v Speaker 2>that's stupid ship, you know, Like that's like me dating

1:19:35.280 --> 1:19:37.800
<v Speaker 2>your girl and me daying your girl. I know you,

1:19:38.360 --> 1:19:41.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, because something is bound to go wrong one

1:19:41.120 --> 1:19:42.400
<v Speaker 2>way or another. I don't care how you do it.

1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:45.080
<v Speaker 2>It just ain't gonna it ain't gonna it ain't gonna right.

1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:47.240
<v Speaker 2>And then you can build up in in the mansity

1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:49.840
<v Speaker 2>even though I fuck with you, but he can't say

1:19:49.880 --> 1:19:51.599
<v Speaker 2>what he really want to say because it's gonna discredit

1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:53.599
<v Speaker 2>I can't say it all right.

1:19:54.280 --> 1:19:57.400
<v Speaker 3>So what is the future of rough Riders right now?

1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, I let my brother. My brother's handling most of

1:20:03.600 --> 1:20:06.160
<v Speaker 2>the rough rid of stuff. I'm focusing more on the

1:20:06.240 --> 1:20:08.920
<v Speaker 2>block talk stuff and just doing that and working with

1:20:09.720 --> 1:20:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm working in a scar project. Me and Swiss is

1:20:12.160 --> 1:20:17.200
<v Speaker 2>working that project. So I'm about to put our her album.

1:20:17.240 --> 1:20:20.000
<v Speaker 2>We just picked out some songs last thing. I had

1:20:20.040 --> 1:20:21.880
<v Speaker 2>to pick out about six songs just to give to

1:20:21.960 --> 1:20:25.280
<v Speaker 2>them to work. But I'm working on the Call album

1:20:25.400 --> 1:20:28.960
<v Speaker 2>right now. In the block talk interviews and whatever else

1:20:29.000 --> 1:20:32.559
<v Speaker 2>coming after that, and a series we're getting ready to shoot.

1:20:32.880 --> 1:20:33.960
<v Speaker 2>So we got a couple of things.

1:20:33.960 --> 1:20:35.599
<v Speaker 3>The series, like an act in our series.

1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a series that I'm shooting, just our path

1:20:39.720 --> 1:20:41.240
<v Speaker 2>of coming up, our lives and stuff.

1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, definitely, I'm already to Netlix. I'm ready.

1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:54.360
<v Speaker 4>I already see it on Netflix, on Amazon Prime or

1:20:54.439 --> 1:20:57.880
<v Speaker 4>some Hell. Yeah, that's that's a mean story to tell, you.

1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Know what, because the story for us is that we

1:21:01.920 --> 1:21:03.760
<v Speaker 2>really lived it like a lot of people didn't do it.

1:21:03.800 --> 1:21:06.479
<v Speaker 2>We can do a lot of things to get there

1:21:06.520 --> 1:21:08.920
<v Speaker 2>and get here and to be able to get there,

1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Like when we did music, we didn't come in the

1:21:12.560 --> 1:21:16.680
<v Speaker 2>game for money to get do We had money. We

1:21:16.800 --> 1:21:18.920
<v Speaker 2>came in with money, so we probably spent money just

1:21:19.000 --> 1:21:21.960
<v Speaker 2>to get in. But it was safer for any longevity

1:21:22.040 --> 1:21:25.559
<v Speaker 2>for us to transition over from the streets to doing

1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:28.080
<v Speaker 2>something legal. That's why we're still here right now. Other

1:21:28.120 --> 1:21:30.000
<v Speaker 2>than that, we probably be dead on in jail because

1:21:30.200 --> 1:21:32.519
<v Speaker 2>that's where everybody goes. If you don't make that transition.

1:21:33.080 --> 1:21:34.519
<v Speaker 2>You have to make a transition. You got to know

1:21:34.600 --> 1:21:37.120
<v Speaker 2>when to say okay, that's enough, I'm gonna have to

1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:40.040
<v Speaker 2>do something different. So we started doing the music and

1:21:40.120 --> 1:21:43.120
<v Speaker 2>that's what worked for us. So y'all did it big? Yes?

1:21:43.240 --> 1:21:43.400
<v Speaker 4>Man?

1:21:43.479 --> 1:21:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah.

1:21:44.760 --> 1:21:45.880
<v Speaker 3>I want to say one more thing.

1:21:46.439 --> 1:21:50.120
<v Speaker 4>I see twining here right, and it's when his his

1:21:50.600 --> 1:21:53.639
<v Speaker 4>his his brother had passed away. But before he passed away,

1:21:53.840 --> 1:21:58.040
<v Speaker 4>it's when uh, when a Tacko spot, right, it's when

1:21:59.160 --> 1:22:00.920
<v Speaker 4>he had got hip hop car. He didn't pass away

1:22:00.920 --> 1:22:03.040
<v Speaker 4>from this right right. So I never go to that

1:22:03.120 --> 1:22:05.720
<v Speaker 4>Tago spot, just even though the Tagle spot got nothing

1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:08.360
<v Speaker 4>to do with it. And like when I heard that

1:22:08.439 --> 1:22:13.600
<v Speaker 4>you had your accident, right on on on that sh

1:22:14.880 --> 1:22:18.360
<v Speaker 4>that's what it's a motorcycle with. I have never got

1:22:19.040 --> 1:22:21.400
<v Speaker 4>three wheeling. I take it out of all the motherfuckers.

1:22:21.720 --> 1:22:24.040
<v Speaker 4>I have never gotten one of those. Whenever I see

1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:26.240
<v Speaker 4>somebody with one of those, always be like, nah, fuck that,

1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:27.920
<v Speaker 4>And I always take it out on them because of you.

1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:30.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what's so crazy, because they don't have t

1:22:30.800 --> 1:22:33.479
<v Speaker 2>Rexes in New York when they first came out back then, right,

1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:36.400
<v Speaker 2>so I was in my I was here, Oh wow,

1:22:36.720 --> 1:22:38.560
<v Speaker 2>they had them here first. I brought from here. I

1:22:38.640 --> 1:22:43.200
<v Speaker 2>brought them t Rexes from Miami. I still see, so

1:22:43.320 --> 1:22:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I was the first one with them t rexes in

1:22:45.520 --> 1:22:47.240
<v Speaker 2>New York. But I seen him here first. I was

1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:48.600
<v Speaker 2>doing something here and I seen him right and I

1:22:48.640 --> 1:22:50.559
<v Speaker 2>was where the fucking I went over to the show.

1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I bought about three of them and flew into New York.

1:22:53.479 --> 1:22:55.280
<v Speaker 2>And that's why we got the tvxes in New York.

1:22:55.320 --> 1:22:56.720
<v Speaker 2>That was fifteen twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, yeah, and they did it? Was that legal in

1:23:00.640 --> 1:23:01.360
<v Speaker 3>New York at that time?

1:23:01.520 --> 1:23:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Or no?

1:23:03.000 --> 1:23:07.160
<v Speaker 3>No, I did none of that.

1:23:08.479 --> 1:23:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mind saying yeah, because it was. It was pretty good.

1:23:12.280 --> 1:23:14.560
<v Speaker 2>There was fast, and they just looked at it. I

1:23:14.640 --> 1:23:16.160
<v Speaker 2>got him from our head or they was from here.

1:23:16.160 --> 1:23:17.360
<v Speaker 2>The originally came from here.

1:23:17.680 --> 1:23:17.880
<v Speaker 7>Wow.

1:23:18.560 --> 1:23:22.240
<v Speaker 3>See the multi Yeah, people driving and I gotta thank you.

1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I gotta thank you. I gotta thank you.

1:23:24.720 --> 1:23:28.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you remember this, but before X

1:23:28.600 --> 1:23:31.840
<v Speaker 4>started going to Arizona, I used to have a lot

1:23:31.840 --> 1:23:33.679
<v Speaker 4>of shows at Arizona because you know, I'm half Puerto Rican,

1:23:33.960 --> 1:23:37.439
<v Speaker 4>so I said always, you know, I always like, yeah, yeah,

1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:42.280
<v Speaker 4>Latino shows out there. So one day Puerto Rican in

1:23:42.400 --> 1:23:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Arizona and the promoter is like, hey man, like he

1:23:48.040 --> 1:23:49.840
<v Speaker 4>shorted me on like two to two grand.

1:23:49.920 --> 1:23:52.479
<v Speaker 3>It was nothing crazy, and for some reason you called me?

1:23:52.640 --> 1:23:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, I called you.

1:23:53.920 --> 1:23:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what was happening, and he.

1:23:56.000 --> 1:23:58.120
<v Speaker 4>Was like, yo you I And I was like, nah, man,

1:23:58.160 --> 1:24:01.240
<v Speaker 4>it's you know. This promoter just like kind of shorteded me.

1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:04.560
<v Speaker 4>And you were like where are you at? And I

1:24:04.720 --> 1:24:07.760
<v Speaker 4>was like, Arizona. I believe it's Arizona. Could have been you,

1:24:08.400 --> 1:24:11.720
<v Speaker 4>but I believe it's Arizona. In ten minutes, you had

1:24:11.800 --> 1:24:13.240
<v Speaker 4>like fifteen from.

1:24:15.240 --> 1:24:21.240
<v Speaker 3>The motors that fround that two thousand dollars. I was like,

1:24:21.560 --> 1:24:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I've never even to say. And that's what I really realized.

1:24:27.840 --> 1:24:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I really realized.

1:24:28.720 --> 1:24:32.560
<v Speaker 4>I was like, yo, Rough Riders is a fucking big conglomerate.

1:24:32.720 --> 1:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Like this is not no Bronx.

1:24:34.320 --> 1:24:37.519
<v Speaker 4>Shit is not the youngest ship. This is some crazy ship.

1:24:37.680 --> 1:24:39.920
<v Speaker 4>Like I forget why we was on the phone, but

1:24:40.040 --> 1:24:41.880
<v Speaker 4>you was like you heard it in my voice. You

1:24:42.000 --> 1:24:44.759
<v Speaker 4>was like, man, watch this, Nori. And so I always

1:24:44.800 --> 1:24:45.960
<v Speaker 4>I always wanted to thank you for that.

1:24:49.479 --> 1:24:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Business.

1:24:50.479 --> 1:24:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, having them, see, that's that's service business.

1:24:53.560 --> 1:24:59.080
<v Speaker 4>So so all right, how about tech? Are you messing

1:24:59.120 --> 1:25:02.400
<v Speaker 4>with the what is this? This this, these these apps

1:25:02.439 --> 1:25:03.479
<v Speaker 4>and all this crazy ship?

1:25:03.680 --> 1:25:03.800
<v Speaker 7>Uh?

1:25:04.400 --> 1:25:08.439
<v Speaker 4>Uh the soundclouds and uh, how do how do they

1:25:08.479 --> 1:25:11.519
<v Speaker 4>get music? Out nowadays the DSPs. Yeah you got to Spotify.

1:25:11.680 --> 1:25:14.480
<v Speaker 5>Is you got the empires that do the digital distribution,

1:25:14.680 --> 1:25:18.120
<v Speaker 5>you got all the yeah, Amazon Music, it's all it's

1:25:18.160 --> 1:25:19.160
<v Speaker 5>all DSPs.

1:25:19.640 --> 1:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:25:20.360 --> 1:25:22.639
<v Speaker 4>I just found that out doing three point nine million

1:25:22.760 --> 1:25:24.040
<v Speaker 4>a month on Spotify.

1:25:24.160 --> 1:25:30.920
<v Speaker 5>I ain't see nothing, remember what snoop sets. That's the difference.

1:25:31.000 --> 1:25:33.280
<v Speaker 5>That's a big difference. Now the music is all free.

1:25:33.680 --> 1:25:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you what your time right now, I can get

1:25:38.400 --> 1:25:41.320
<v Speaker 2>it in and give it them right, So it's impossible

1:25:41.400 --> 1:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>for you to stop it. It's like almost impossible.

1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm in.

1:25:45.640 --> 1:25:50.000
<v Speaker 4>A seesaw because on one hand, Leo told me it's

1:25:50.040 --> 1:25:52.320
<v Speaker 4>like it's the best time to put out music because

1:25:52.680 --> 1:25:55.040
<v Speaker 4>it's so cheap, like meaning like you could just make

1:25:55.080 --> 1:25:57.280
<v Speaker 4>the ship in your your house and just throw it out.

1:25:57.320 --> 1:25:59.280
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to really do a photo shoot, you

1:25:59.320 --> 1:26:01.720
<v Speaker 3>don't have to really art, is true? Yeah, that's true.

1:26:01.880 --> 1:26:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, souse the next party told.

1:26:04.920 --> 1:26:07.679
<v Speaker 3>You the next part is is what he just said.

1:26:07.720 --> 1:26:10.080
<v Speaker 4>It's just like like are we going to like just

1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:13.920
<v Speaker 4>just just keep being disposable music or like you know

1:26:13.920 --> 1:26:14.479
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, that's what.

1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:17.599
<v Speaker 3>It is is became disposable. That's the problem. And then

1:26:17.600 --> 1:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>when anybody can make it. That means it's oversaturation.

1:26:20.840 --> 1:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Over like you said, oversaturation, because see before, you have

1:26:25.080 --> 1:26:27.080
<v Speaker 2>to have money to make it. Back then, yesn't just

1:26:27.600 --> 1:26:29.200
<v Speaker 2>go in your room and brom on the mic and

1:26:29.240 --> 1:26:30.920
<v Speaker 2>then put it out. They can go in their room

1:26:31.280 --> 1:26:33.120
<v Speaker 2>and twe can put it out. You didn't have that

1:26:33.240 --> 1:26:35.439
<v Speaker 2>access before. You have to have a budget. You still

1:26:35.439 --> 1:26:38.040
<v Speaker 2>have to go through the proper process of getting the

1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:41.160
<v Speaker 2>budget videos or they can shoot their own videos, make

1:26:41.200 --> 1:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>their own music. They could do that in their room,

1:26:42.800 --> 1:26:46.920
<v Speaker 2>in their room and have a video off tonight. So

1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:50.160
<v Speaker 2>like it's oversaturated's too many videos, it's too easy. Don't

1:26:50.200 --> 1:26:52.519
<v Speaker 2>cost some nothing. See back then, you have to have money.

1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:54.519
<v Speaker 2>You have to have a budget. So you ain't putting

1:26:54.520 --> 1:26:56.559
<v Speaker 2>no album out, You ain't doing no music or anything.

1:26:57.080 --> 1:26:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Now you can do it in your house and do

1:26:58.360 --> 1:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>it and put it out tonight.

1:27:00.439 --> 1:27:02.080
<v Speaker 5>And you see what you saw. I don't know if

1:27:02.080 --> 1:27:03.880
<v Speaker 5>you guys saw what They just came out with a

1:27:03.960 --> 1:27:07.479
<v Speaker 5>report that you know, the poly market ship. Yeah, so

1:27:07.760 --> 1:27:10.960
<v Speaker 5>motherfuckers were betting on polymarket about songs in the top

1:27:11.080 --> 1:27:13.400
<v Speaker 5>ten and bill Yeah, and then they were they were

1:27:13.479 --> 1:27:14.520
<v Speaker 5>paying bots.

1:27:14.760 --> 1:27:17.800
<v Speaker 3>On Spotify to Netflix and they I don't know.

1:27:17.960 --> 1:27:20.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean I just saw news report about it and

1:27:20.760 --> 1:27:22.439
<v Speaker 5>they and they were paying bots to get it on

1:27:22.680 --> 1:27:24.479
<v Speaker 5>Billboard and then they were they were betting on it

1:27:24.560 --> 1:27:25.280
<v Speaker 5>on polymarket.

1:27:25.880 --> 1:27:27.360
<v Speaker 3>So it's all rigged in that sense.

1:27:28.400 --> 1:27:30.519
<v Speaker 5>So so the thing is is, yeah, you want it

1:27:30.600 --> 1:27:33.479
<v Speaker 5>easy to to to be a creative, but I think

1:27:33.560 --> 1:27:36.080
<v Speaker 5>real artists will find the way to get their regardless.

1:27:36.240 --> 1:27:37.599
<v Speaker 5>But what you got is a bunch of people who

1:27:37.600 --> 1:27:41.360
<v Speaker 5>ain't real artists flooding the market and it's hard to

1:27:41.439 --> 1:27:42.160
<v Speaker 5>see the real art.

1:27:43.120 --> 1:27:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Because it's not fake artists. And right, so now you

1:27:47.600 --> 1:27:49.479
<v Speaker 2>can't even tell the difference. So now you got so

1:27:49.600 --> 1:27:51.400
<v Speaker 2>much fake artists, you stop picking fake.

1:27:51.320 --> 1:27:54.560
<v Speaker 5>Artists, and the algorithms what's telling you know this is

1:27:54.600 --> 1:27:56.439
<v Speaker 5>what's popping. And we just find it out they're rigging

1:27:56.520 --> 1:27:59.479
<v Speaker 5>that too. They they they paying the bots. So I

1:27:59.800 --> 1:28:03.200
<v Speaker 5>made say you ship, and they line about they floss

1:28:03.280 --> 1:28:05.240
<v Speaker 5>in with all this fake ship like pretending like they're

1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:05.800
<v Speaker 5>making bread.

1:28:06.880 --> 1:28:09.959
<v Speaker 4>They be even betting on Donald Trump's speeches, like if Donald.

1:28:10.040 --> 1:28:13.880
<v Speaker 5>That's the probaly, they've bet on everything, They've been on everything.

1:28:14.200 --> 1:28:19.280
<v Speaker 4>So so d God comes down, right, and God says, yeah,

1:28:19.320 --> 1:28:20.040
<v Speaker 4>God comes down to.

1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:24.720
<v Speaker 3>Speak to you down. Yeah, I tell you. He comes

1:28:24.720 --> 1:28:26.559
<v Speaker 3>to speak to you, right, and he says, d.

1:28:28.840 --> 1:28:31.720
<v Speaker 4>I want you to make one record for me, right,

1:28:31.800 --> 1:28:34.240
<v Speaker 4>I want you to go in. You to pick the producer,

1:28:34.680 --> 1:28:37.040
<v Speaker 4>and you to pick the artist. You picked the producer,

1:28:37.120 --> 1:28:40.320
<v Speaker 4>you picked the artist, and and it could be a

1:28:40.360 --> 1:28:44.200
<v Speaker 4>feature artist. And that feature artist can be alive or Dad.

1:28:44.760 --> 1:28:46.880
<v Speaker 4>Who are the two artists you pick him to be

1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:49.599
<v Speaker 4>on that record? And who who is the producer that's

1:28:49.600 --> 1:28:50.599
<v Speaker 4>gonna produce that record?

1:28:52.400 --> 1:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>If I had to pick one song that you have

1:28:55.360 --> 1:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to do, yeah, you have to do it. Yeah, I'm

1:28:57.880 --> 1:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, I'm gonna say Swiss nuts. I know, I know,

1:29:03.320 --> 1:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I know Swisses beats, and I know how to work acts. See,

1:29:06.400 --> 1:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>he don't got to make the hits. I make the

1:29:07.720 --> 1:29:09.040
<v Speaker 2>hits for him. I'm gonna know what to tell him

1:29:09.040 --> 1:29:13.599
<v Speaker 2>to say say this, that, do that. So we were

1:29:13.680 --> 1:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of like it's a chemistry with music. Like he's

1:29:16.479 --> 1:29:18.560
<v Speaker 2>not an ax, wasn't a worker. You just have to

1:29:18.600 --> 1:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>be chemistry with him.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a good chemistry with him. He trusted you,

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<v Speaker 2>really the important for he trusted me, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>knew how to work the project. You got to know

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<v Speaker 2>how to work a project. It's not just it's a

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<v Speaker 2>project now, So you got to look at it like

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<v Speaker 2>you pretty much when you're dealing with artists. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the world and now you got to

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<v Speaker 2>know who you're dealing with and know the ins and

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<v Speaker 2>out on who you're working so you can come out

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<v Speaker 2>with a good album. I don't got to if it's

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<v Speaker 2>too difficult for me. I say, you know what, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you look do this. I need to do this to

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<v Speaker 2>give me the beat. That's a good beat. Boom, put

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<v Speaker 2>a hook on the head. Just run him on it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so you give him sometimes you got to

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<v Speaker 2>give him, give him a hit. But the beat is

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<v Speaker 2>basically a hit. The hit is basically the beat and

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<v Speaker 2>the hook. What you say of that, you can make

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<v Speaker 2>it work. But I already got to beating the hook.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seventy five percent good. I just need you to

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<v Speaker 2>do your part. Now you're only gonna do eight balls.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nothing. That's that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's up. Who's easier to work with? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>guys or girls?

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<v Speaker 2>Guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Guys girls girls they.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't need no make up, at least some of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, it's easier for me because I work with more

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<v Speaker 2>guys than girls, Like I might go one girl out

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<v Speaker 2>of tennis, So I gotta be easier for me to

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<v Speaker 2>work with guys because girls, I don't get to work

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<v Speaker 2>with that many girls. If I get one, it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>just one girl with five guys I gotta work with.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's easier for me to work with them. Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>I gonna talk to gods. How if I want, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta I gotta bend to the Look. Oh, you know, nigga,

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<v Speaker 2>I just told you so guys I gotta talked to

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<v Speaker 2>I want girls. I gotta curve it a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>You You ever got to meet Michael Jackson the Prince? No,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks to me, we met Prince.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we married and met Prince. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I will. Well, Mike was Mike. Michael Jackson was in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio that we was in, which was in Sony

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<v Speaker 2>on fifty four fifty four. He was in the room,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, he was in that room. We was

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<v Speaker 2>in this room, but he was in there, but we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really go in there to meet him. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was in the room, but he was in the same studio.

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<v Speaker 2>But I ain't talked to him personally.

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<v Speaker 3>Was anything else. I think I think we wrapped it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't got you ain't got a block Talk shirt,

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<v Speaker 3>you ain't got a shirt ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I just get him the hot Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That was dope.

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<v Speaker 2>That was dope. We gotta take a picture.

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