WEBVTT - #316 - JasonMartin FKA Problem 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.640 What's hading this, Jason Martin? You can catch me on 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.840 the Bootleg keV podcast. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.280 Boutleg cav Podcast Special guests in here my guy formerly 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:14.040 known this problem Jason. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:14.640 Martin, what's going on? 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.600 What made you go by the government? Man? I mean 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:19.920 it was a couple of years. 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:20.960 I'm not. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:22.239 I just I've been. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:23.600 Wanting to do it. I've didn't wanting to do it 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.120 since like twenty sixteen. Somebody talked me out of it. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.840 But to Change actually had a conversation with him a 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.720 while ago. It was just like, Bro, you the same talent, 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.680 the name Change is not gonna do anything. Just go 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.240 and just for me at this stage of the game, 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.239 my age, my situation personally, I just I feel like 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.199 it's irresponsible to call myself problem. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.720 We have coffee, come on, Compton coffee, that is yes, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.519 the Compton Coffee, coffee and cush. You brought me a 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:51.559 mug that I can get high out of. Come on, man, 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.120 which is nice. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.120 Yeah, yeah, man. Shout out to Snoop brother. I love 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.760 that song you did with Snoop and with Freddy Oh yeah, 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:00.960 don't be mad at me remakes. It was dope to 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:02.760 hear Freddy in that bag like a lot of people 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.399 think he can't get in the up tempo party bag. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.039 Like if you go look, Freddy was on the first 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:08.200 Molly I say he was on. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:09.920 Some records like that for sure, Like I had a 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.319 record that he did with Fuck. I can't think of 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.960 his name right now. Who's the guy from the Bay 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:16.679 Clat Carson. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.960 Yeah, he's super bro. Freddie's one of the I don't, 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.120 I wouldn't. I can't call him underrated anymore. He's one 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:23.880 of the He's one of the ones, and everybody know 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:24.160 it too. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.520 Love Freddy Man. So for you, are you more focused 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:32.080 on music now or are your entrepreneurial endeavors? 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:37.160 And today? Right now music and right now I'm pushing 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.360 this project that's getting ready to come out May twelve. Okay, 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.840 I'm gonna be announcent on my birthday. So that's my 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.880 focus right now. But that's why I haven't been as 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.960 president music, because I've been establishing these situations, making sure 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.680 the foundation is there, the team structures there, and honestly, 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.360 just for other rappers and shut out here, there's no 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.560 point of getting as big as I got and not 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.280 having anything to sell, right, not having anything to put 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.160 your name on that you own, so I want to 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.280 make sure before I dropped this next better music, all 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:07.120 this was establishment. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:08.919 Are you still rocking Diamond Lane? 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.359 Diamond Line is forever, But I definitely started a new 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.520 company called fifty Million. But I'm still a partner in 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.920 Diamond Line. Shot there playing games. We definitely still get 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:18.440 money together. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:19.600 What's up with bad Luck Man? 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.120 Good Luck? My brother, good luck Man? He found the 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.320 lord and I'm happy for him. You know, I've never 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:27.639 seen him so happy. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.520 There was that song he had that had like was 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.120 it the biggie sample on the hook? I got a 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:32.280 bit of yeah. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.800 And you know what's funny, he hated that that song 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.640 took off because he's such an MC like you know, 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.960 he bad Luck is bad Luck was everybody's favorite, your 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:47.600 favorite favorite for sure, So for him it bothered him 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.200 that he was known for that record. But that's crazy 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.880 in the club though, songs still go crazy. But you know, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.239 it was the time we was having a good time. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:58.000 You are kind of like one of the forefathers, godfathers 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.679 of the ratchet movement in l A. I think the 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.520 songs like Dick Too Big and. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:07.960 Like just called D two B two D two B. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.880 It is D two B y y, Yes, it's not 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.079 Dick too big, it's Dick too bad, Dick too bomb. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.280 Isn't it Dick too big? Dick too bombs? 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.799 But this is wold But that song is D two 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.360 B though, yeah, D two B. But it depends on who. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.040 I don't know why I thought it was like Dick 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.320 too big, Dick too. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.239 Maybe that was a wishful thinking on your part. I 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:26.560 don't know. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:29.639 I play it on the. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.440 Nah that record. That record licenses very well. Shout out 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:36.840 to East Ray and all the other people. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.920 That fucking classic man, you got a lot of those, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.760 Like you got a lot of just like club classics, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.680 especially if you you know, or in Vegas or Phoenix 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.360 or l A or Bay, Like you just got just 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.960 a barrage outside of you know, uh, you know, you're 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:54.600 you're super smash. I just feel like you got a 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.440 lot of dope, dope records, and I feel like you 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.960 kind of. I feel like it's like you. And at 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.840 that time it was like why and you guys kind 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.040 of were doing all the club ship Then HBK up 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.800 top Yeah, yeah, HBK gang that. Then the rack city 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:09.640 started to happen. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.800 But like each member like from our selective crew just 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.560 started branching out, Like from YG you branched out to 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.400 Tie and must and then they all start RJ and HBK. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.320 You had p Low and getting cleary. You know what 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.640 I'm saying. It became this real thing. And from my 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.800 side of you know, League of Stars and Bad Luck 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.160 and just other stuff we were doing. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.360 Yeah, League of Stars was like I just had a 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.520 couple of those guys on with g Perica and we're 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.560 just talking about like there was that era where like 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.960 they were producing so much shit and like some people 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.120 thought it was Mustard. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.599 All that that they actually had a real conflict. I 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.920 mean that that thing was a real thing because honestly, 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.600 everybody all was hanging and everybody was together, So it 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.440 wasn't what it was this person sound or this person's sound. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.160 We were kind of all in the studio together. It's 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.400 just when Mustard hit, he hits so big that of 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.680 course the first person that gets got it. That's what 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.919 that's what it's known for. But we were all collaborating 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.120 a lot back in them time. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:06.800 You did you and why do you. 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.600 Have a little A little we had a little thing. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.680 We had a small riff that turned into a big nothing, 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.400 but we actually which was crazy. I was just in 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.920 Joey's the other night. I mean, yeah, I'm out there 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.640 doing my thing, and then uh, the gentleman walks up 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.440 to me with a ski mask off. So you know, 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:25.720 I'm just like, what's going on? I don't know who 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.800 it is? You pull up, like, what's up? 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:28.000 Dog. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.800 That's probably the first time we actually talked talked in years. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.360 A lot of the stuff that was going on with 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.520 us was through a lot of other people. We hadn't 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.200 had our conversation. So for us, I just like, how 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.360 you doing, and we started together. We had a good, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.240 really good conversation. It felt like it I could see 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.520 in his face, at least in mind. It felt like 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.960 some actual closure was there with everybody thinking we're in 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.880 these big old things like me and him did an 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:55.200 interview with tax Stone at Dre Studio in the height 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.240 of our quote unquote beef. So it was never that. 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.440 It was just more so like we both wanted to 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.440 be the man and we needed some edge and and 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.839 and it kind of just spawned some ship. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.000 What what was was that kind of like the origins 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.200 of that situation where you guys were both kind of 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.520 like the it guys in La make a similar tempo records. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:13.599 You guys go through the ratchet. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.880 I don't know. I think it really had. It had 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.200 more to do with our circles having incidents and then 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:20.920 us being ahead of our face, not. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.720 Here the face of our circles. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:28.040 Uh. It became me versus him, and in actuality again, 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.760 we didn't even talk during it. It was just well ship, 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.520 well fuck it, this is what we're on, you know 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.440 what I mean. And then we use that to fuel 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.000 to become to the biggest guys from here. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.080 Yeah, for sure, It's like it was like a not 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.720 so friendly competition, right. 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.200 But I will say and I'll always say this anytime 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.240 anybody asked me, anytime there was business to handle, we 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.560 had shows, anything, it was like the business together, Na 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:54.960 bro Compton, gonna get the money. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:56.520 We're gonna go from Compton. 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.200 Totally. And we both started at the same time, are 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.440 together and we and we and I'm glad we talked. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:04.600 You had a I don't know if you guys both 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.840 started at the same time because you had you had 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:11.480 a I feel like when I was an intern, I 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.040 went to a mixer meeting with you in Phoenix when 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.440 I was like eighteen or nineteen. Oh no, I Toe 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.840 Up record, oh Na, yeah, yeah, that was like oh nine. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.200 Yeah, but see they were tearing it up around nine 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:23.120 in twenty ten. 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.000 Now that's yeah because I because then I remember fast 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.160 forward because I think Budah started to really crack like 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.680 twenty ten. So yeah, you're right, yeah right in Tie. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.720 I've known Tie when I've known Tie before I was 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.960 rapping crazy. He actually put us together. 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.120 So that's wild man. Yo. I think back to that 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.800 era and I remember like when you caught like what 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:46.160 and it was like just everywhere and every label was 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:50.240 barking down your throat. You never because you had came 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.560 from a major label situation when you were on when 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:52.920 you did. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.320 On Toe Up right, Yeah, I did it like a 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:55.760 two single deal with Republic. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:02.200 Did you ever regret not signing a major record deal 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.800 at that moment because you kind of passed on I'm 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.200 sure every situation possible at that time. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.480 Well, just to be perfectly honest with you, that wasn't 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.320 my decision to make at the time. I wasn't handling 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.240 the business for Diamond Lane. But I'm not gonna go 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:19.960 against the leadership of the person that got me to 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.080 what people to even give me a deal. So it 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.880 was a due decision to do it a certain way. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.280 And it was times where I won't sit here and 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.200 lie to you. It was times like damn, we should 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.160 have did that D D D. But sitting here present 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.400 today and looking at the situation and looking at everybody, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.160 where everybody is and where they're at and ownership and 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:39.840 where they're at with the records and what they can 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.439 do and with the we made the best decision possible because, 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.040 like I said, our license very well and it's not 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.520 a lot of signatures, you get what I'm saying. Sure, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.040 maintaining ownership of those records was very important. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.959 Yeah, who was somebody was there? Because I think back 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.800 to the time, like what was going crazy? And this 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.840 was kind of like peak, Like I feel like there 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.880 was some rapper crews like MMG was signing fools, Like 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.760 did you have any of those like situations that like 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.080 where somebody tried to bring you into the click like, uh, 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.120 you know why she ended up with C T. E. 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.280 Tr Uh. Definitely we were we were going real strong together. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.559 Just grand hustle. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.120 Yeah, grand hustle for sure. They probably came the hardest 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.560 as far as a crew. But everybody, every everybody's trying 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:32.080 to every everybody reached out. But how you you can't 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.200 sign me like that? Ain't If anything, you can come 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:36.839 be with my crew. And that's the way I was 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.840 looking at it back then, because we were a self 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.920 contained unit. The reason why diamondand was even invented was 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.440 because I didn't like the way the system was ran, right, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.200 you know what I'm saying. And again, money is always cool, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.120 but we were blessed to come in with a little 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.959 financial success so we can pay for certain things and 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.199 do certain things a little different. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.120 You guys are running it up. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.040 Yeah, we had a good time, you guys. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.839 Gigs all the Yeah, some random ass Vegas show I 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.680 remember going to like that was way off the strip. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:07.120 I forget where men. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.679 Oh yeah, he was gonna grab him bags, for sure, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:10.640 he's gonna grab him back. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.520 Yo. For people who don't know I met, I met 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.120 Pun through you. Yeah. So back in the day, Pun 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.240 was your manager. What's it like to see Pun become 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:20.040 a podcaster? 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:20.800 I love it. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:25.600 He's always been a ridiculously hilarious, ridiculous guy. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.360 I think God put him right where he's supposed to be. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:32.240 He's always been that person, for sure, He's always He's 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.120 the reason those parties that he were throwing. He was 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.600 throwing was the reason for all of those class records 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.280 I did. They were all thrown with some pun party 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.360 from the potion parties we used to throw to him, 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.439 just like here we got turned my fuck up. His 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.160 energy has always been that, so it's perfect. It's great 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.720 to see. I love seeing what he's doing. I love 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.840 seeing what ad he's doing. Trail is the biggest surprise though, 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.160 right Like I didn't see that one coming, and he's 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.640 probably one of the best at what he's done. Yeah, 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.440 I loved you because he doesn't operate in fear right 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.480 when he talks to you and has a question for you, 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.360 and he doesn't mind looking like, Okay, I was wrong 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:08.640 on that. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.760 No, he's really he's got a lot of hagility and. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.000 He's a real one though, so he's ready to back 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.000 up anything you bring his way. So that to me, 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.560 I called like that was. That was the only interview 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.719 I did for No Jumper was with him. I told 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.360 him I don't even want to go up there just 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.160 because I just saw something. But with Trail, I'm like, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:27.200 bro I gotta come up there and. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.640 This fuck with you because I feel like a lot 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.439 of guys went up there just to talk to t 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:31.120 railer Ad. 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.679 Yeah, trail Man, and this is no slight to that 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.920 whole system. I just saw something. I didn't understand it, right. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.520 I didn't understand what was going on up there too much. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.959 And I don't really even really do anything. I call 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.520 the people I want to do anything. I get you. Yeah, 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.079 you know what I'm saying. I'm not really into just 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:50.000 talking to everybody. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.760 How do you feel about where like LA hip hop 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:56.200 is in twenty twenty three. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.839 It's like it's in a funny place when you ask me, 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.640 it's in a place where people are afraid to try 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.319 something new. And when I say try something new, that 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:12.640 doesn't mean like go fucking do dance music. I'm saying 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.240 like taking what we do and what we're known for, 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:20.400 the funk, the instrumentation, the tempo, and just trying new sounds. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:24.400 Like I'm not saying become a jazz musician. I'm not 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.640 saying become an DM star. But there's a there's a 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.560 there's a people we're a fright to take risks right, 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.720 And it's also really really tough. And this is being 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.400 in the Devil's advocate. It's tough to make music as 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.000 a California artist because you're down. If you do, you 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.000 down if you don't, if you don't make music, that's 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.040 could be hard to get buzzing here. And you don't 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.920 sound like here, they don't fuck with you here. But 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.640 if you sound like here, you get no burn nowhere 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.120 else less. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.280 I just had a conversation with Ojiz about that right 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.000 before you got here. You know, we're talking about that. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.599 I'm like, you've done a really good job of like 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.040 somehow not being regional, like he's so shows in Toronto, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:02.839 He's got a forty day tour coming, and I'm like, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.679 you one of the few guys who has done a 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.679 really good job of And I think a lot of 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.760 it has to do with like networking outside of LA 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.160 like Kaylen did a good job of that. Like I 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:12.880 think when Kaylen was coming up people to Atlanta for 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:14.000 like a year, you know what I mean. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.880 But oh Jesus, just oh Jesus, a cool, just guy 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.600 if you just see him. And I think, honestly, bro, 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.439 being Latin doesn't hurt you know what I'm saying That 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.880 doesn't hurt with that, you know, I'm more so speaking 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.679 about like the black artists. It's tough. We don't get 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:34.440 as much leeway as everybody else. Your pigeonhole in a sense, 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.400 Like even our first five minutes of conversation is talking 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.960 about the ratchet turn up. So for me to even 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.280 be making this left I'm hitting it's tough for people 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.199 to fuck with. Like wait a minute, but it's like 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.599 my thing is, I don't drive the same car that 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.400 I was in twelve years ago, so I'm damn sure 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.400 not gonna make the same music for sure. But I 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.480 think that's the moniker that we need to take on 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.000 as a culture. I think there's some things that are 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.679 working that I like, but something gotta change. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.679 This is the way I look at it, right, And 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.160 I just talked to my boy, you know, Sallas, Yeah 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.959 Head's manager. Yeah yeah. So me and Salas were talking 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:12.240 about this yesterday and I was like, think about I mean, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.960 I'll say the three the three biggest artists to come 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.640 out of LA in the last twenty years. Now, I'll 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.800 say fifteen or ten to fifteen, because I'm not gonna 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.120 include Game in that. So let's say the last decade, 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.200 It's Tyler the Creator, It's Kendrick Lamar, and it's Roddy Rich. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.720 All three of them have something similar in common as 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:33.000 they all three do a really good job of not 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.440 doing what's expected from a Cali artists. Not to say that, 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.080 like you won't hear Roddy on some some shit that, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.160 you know what I mean, But I feel like that 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.560 they're very good at just like pushing the boundaries of 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:47.840 like creating without like that. I guess that that you know, 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.600 I gotta do this for what I think is gonna come. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.520 Like I mean, Kendrick is obviously probably top five all 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:54.280 time if you ask me. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.760 I think, I think, but I think I think those 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.840 are great names and what's your what you're really missing 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.320 with those big budgets. And that's not to take anything 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.160 away from it, but it's tough for you to tell 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.560 and new up and coming artists that they have to 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.480 compete with that budget that those three people get. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.040 But I think Odd Future came into the game doing 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.080 some wild shit. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.800 No, if you can find on record me saying Kendrick Lamar, 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.080 uh tired out, I mean, excuse me, tired of the creator? 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.920 Dooja Cat Billie Eilish like those from La. Yes, she's 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.200 from La. Billy Olish is from La. Like we have 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.920 some of the biggest things in music, Anderson Pot like 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:37.400 we're not a lot of things. But the beauty of 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.880 it is that when you got that kind of budget, 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.000 you know that a million to five hundred dollars, a 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.840 million dollars is about to go into what you're about 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.720 to do. You're a little more free with your music. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.760 You're a lot more free with your music. And it's 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.120 not to take away from it. They earn that, but 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.040 it's not fair to tell somebody who has to pay 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.080 for his own videos, his own clothes, have his own 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.360 runner book, his own studio time, pay their own bills, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.880 pay their own bi at the same time, and you're 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:03.920 comparing them to those monsters. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.560 I just think that like if you're if you are 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.760 coming up and you can say okay, ship, maybe if 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.600 I start to because a lot of these guys do 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:11.280 have followings. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.840 Now don't have great followers, because that's just why they're 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.040 able to make the money they are. But just imagine 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.760 they're following with a five hundred thousand dollars. But something 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:20.840 could be onsane out. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.960 Here for some yes, I yeah. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:25.120 I mean that's anything though. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.240 But also we're talking about like generationally talented people when 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.920 we talk about Kendrick lamar Bro, he's the goal, That's 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:32.320 what I mean. 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.640 So it's like, what do we like Listen, that's like 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:38.760 an extreme I don't even I kind of leave those 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.360 I leave those two out of a lot of conversations. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.760 Kendrick could talk. You just push them over there. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:49.160 That's like that because they're like, they're like generational creatives. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:53.440 There what happens when amazing skill, amazing talent, hard work, 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:58.440 and somebody that believes financially and spiritually all happened at 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:03.120 one time. But that not really that's not typical in 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.680 any genre of music. And that's the thing that's the 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.200 gift in the KURSI will be in from LA. I 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.760 think a lot of people. I think a lot of 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.359 people have the potential to do that, but they have 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.720 to understand why they're not so they can keep going. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:17.280 A lot of people get caught up in this shit 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:18.600 of trying to compete. 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:19.840 And it's just like you're not well, let me ask 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.399 you this, right, because there was an era in music 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:28.159 when the LA sound was literally hip hop sound, and 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.800 that was when Lega Stars were producing for guys like, uh, 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.520 did Lega Stars do? Did they do rip? 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:36.520 No? 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.960 Must okay, okay, they did something. 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:40.720 I'm trying to think of one of the did Tiger 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:41.960 faded Faded? 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.240 That's what it was. But like I think about that 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.679