WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Fly Eagles Fly? 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:24.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.479 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys Worldwhours at the Star 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:39.240 in Frisco. Has got and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:45.360 heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.959 midweek edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos, the official 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.080 chip and the official dip of the Dallas Cowboys, Live 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:58.240 from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.360 We've got a very chipper crews. Yeah as always today, 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.320 the great Rob Phillips smiling as always. We've got Isaiah 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.160 stand Back our residence super Bowl champion, and then the 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:14.560 most vibrant of them all this morning, mister Finds interlining 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.840 to that jacket is look at it. It's wow, wool 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:24.440 in size comfy lambskin. Excuse me, wow, that's the next level. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.280 He still he was still able to get his fruit 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.119 cup in this morning. So that's and I'm sore as 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.520 I don't know what right now, man, because Isaiah has 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.320 this whole challenge going and I will not be denied. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.119 You're working you're training. I'm training. I will talking about 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.520 I will not be denied. Preparation meets opportunity, man, I 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.000 will not be denied what all goes into this training. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.240 I'm a whole lot of stretching and a whole lot 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:58.000 of sprinting. Is that's what we're doing, right, We're sprinting yogging? 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.520 Is that what is in between walking and jogging? Well, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.520 That's what I've been doing for the last ten years. 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.680 But this is, um, you know, you're talking about taking 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.240 out like I hadn't, you know, like K nine Union 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.000 behind you run. That's a bad analogy, but that's a 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.680 deep down, deep down, but that kind of running out 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.000 in a minute. So you're so you're running running already 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.480 running running? Wow? So I started my training on money 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:27.480 to hers. Yeah is this training for the show podcast 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.960 competition or we're just training? Yeah? Not going right? Ro people? 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.720 We have to represent Okay, So I got cornhole, right, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.840 that's or maybe Chris can do that for us. I 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.520 don't know, I'm doing the non Oh yeah, if we're 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.560 doing cornhole, we no no, no, no, no no, yeah. Yeah, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.519 well you you guys are in the dirty dirty f 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.120 I'm in it. Yeah, but you can handle the running apparent. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:52.280 I cannot get you. No, no, no no, y'all in this Olympics, guys, 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:57.359 I think they just want to beating us. Some talks upstairs, Yeah, 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.639 it might end up. Two we prepare for every thing. Well, 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.440 I got cornhole. But you don't understand Chris is not 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.680 going to be on our team yet. Chris, I mean 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.440 because we're not having a draft. I mean, I mean, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:12.920 so if you had a choice of which podcast you 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.320 would support, Chris saying it wouldn't be us, I support 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.960 them all. Just let me all know. That's way too political. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.880 But whose best friend is on what podcast? I mean? 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.720 I mean, Heck and I were boys. Yeah, don't don't 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.840 get caught up in that. Man. He would choose, he 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.960 would choose hanging over us any day. No, no, I 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.519 could see that it would happen. I love them all. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.160 I love him. It's like a It's like a proud 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:41.080 pop up refector pick. Nobody. Nobody knows how to right 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:47.440 offense quite like Chris Crispia That all right, we've got 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.800 some cowboys, uh to dive into nothing crazy here on 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.360 this Wednesday, we didn't have a pot or excuse me, 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.680 we didn't have a press conference yesterday, but rob anything 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.720 stick out over the last twenty four hours or so 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.600 since we last We're on there, um not really. We 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.680 talked a little bit about Jerry said on the fan 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.640 yesterday they're not going to practice today because they've got 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.720 the extra day before Monday night, so they'll do a 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.600 mock game style walkthrough and a couple injuries to keep 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.799 an eye on this week. In addition to Amrii Cooper, 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.480 they've got more D line issues. Dawnce Armstrong has an 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.800 ankle injury out of here. Carlos Watkins has a knee injury, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.480 So keep an eye on those and their potential availability 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.760 or non availability Monday night. And Basham was said to 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.760 have that linkering ankle too, right, didn't McCarthy say that 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.080 on Monday? I didn't catch that, Okay, For some reason, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.880 I thought he did say that. He mentioned Day and Watkins, 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.279 And but you know, Randy Gregory is if all continues 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.760 going well, he should be cleared from the reserve COVID today. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.520 So that would be very good news. Can we just 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.640 take the Bill Belichick approach and just put everybody on 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:58.520 the injury report? That would make so much sense. Tom 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.400 Brady every week, was on it every week. Let's keep 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.880 him guessing. He's gonna play every week absolutely no matter what. Absolutely, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:10.080 So if Dorian's Armstrong is out and there's not any 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.400 extra depth added, even with the return of Brandy Gregory 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.280 to that edge rusher spot, it's Michael Parsons still in 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.640 the rotation at that spot because of how well he played. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.239 Michael Parsons needs to be spying Jalen Hursts the entire game. Okay, 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.200 that's in that conversation. Just have him spying him because 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.920 the reason Jalen Hurts is containable. I know we're gonna 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.040 get to this, but if Jalen Hurts is allowed to 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.000 break containment and get going on out on a perimeter, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.000 that's when he's a problem. I don't fear Jalen Hurts 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.440 sitting in the pocket. I just don't. Now, we can't 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.000 give him time to sit up there and use his cannon, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.040 because he does have that, But we could take care 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.279 of the defense and that side of things. On the secondary. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.240 He wants to go out there and be a dual threat, 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:50.920 and we need somebody to keep an eye on him 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.279 the entire game. And I think that we can handle 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:57.159 this receiving slash tight end cores with our defensive backs 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.920 and our schemes well enough to keep those guys taking 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.320 care of We just need to make sure that he 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.520 doesn't break out and get things going past the line 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.200 of scrimmage. So I think our best athlete who can 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:11.320 handle that. Parsons, I don't agree, but I do to 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:16.160 a certain degree. We don't agree. And I mean, if 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.320 you watch the tape from Michael Parsons that defensive end, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.040 and I was one of the people that were saying, look, 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.080 let's not even fool ourselves after that tank attains coming back, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.520 Let's try and move him around. And you look at 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.039 the sample size that we have, thirty seven, thirty nine players. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.880 I believe that he played at defensive end. Bro, this 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.080 boy is the truth. I mean, unveiled the bazooka. Stop 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.280 playing with it. I mean, it's the real deal. No, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:43.120 that got drop that thing in there and the bazooka bazooka. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.400 I mean, just let's stop playing because right now what 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.160 I see is a young man that is everything that 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.000 you need in a defensive playmaker and one of these 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.920 generational talents possibly And I know I'm jumping out of 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.760 the cake on just the sample size that we have, 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.320 but I'm willing to because of his quickness right off 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.200 the ball and we need that. And if you can 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.080 do this to a guy like Jalen Hursts, continually continuously 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.040 get pressure on him, the spy will matter, but the 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.560 pressure up up the gut and also getting around from 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.520 the edge I think will smoke him out and your 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.320 linebackers can chase him down. Yeah, I mean, I guess 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.200 I'm taking it from from a quarterbacks perspective. Who has 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.280 who had the same skill set as Jalen Hurts. I'm 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.520 not threatened by defensive end as a as a quarterback 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.400 who had the ability to run. A defensive end did 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.040 nothing to me at all. I faced some really good 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.600 defensive ends in my in my collegiate career um and 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.040 they never bother me. I would be more concerned about 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:37.760 the person that has their eye. I mean the whole time, 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.440 the whole game that I know I'm gonna have to 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.280 deal with. After I deal with the front line, after 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.640 I avoid the defensive line, Now who do I have 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.880 to deal with? That's what I'm worried about, because if 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.080 you go up the field, I'm going inside. If you 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.800 stay inside. I'm going outside. It doesn't matter how fast 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.120 you are, it doesn't matter how big you are. I'm 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:55.960 worried about. Now, who do I have to deal with 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.360 once I get once I avoid that those first four guys. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.800 So we did talk about how his pressure off mainly 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.920 off the left edge when they decided to move him 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.160 there and face storm Norton. Who's the backup tackle for 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.600 the Chargers? That I mean? You said it. I agreed. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.680 If he doesn't get those eight pressures the sack, they 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.960 don't win that game. No, no, no, absolutely no, And 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.480 to that point, absolutely, But let's not make the comparison 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.000 that Herbert has the same running ability as as jal 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:23.920 But we don't. We don't change that up based. It's 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.800 a different All those inside spins that he got Jalen 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.080 Hurts would being gone, well, let's see in absolutely gone. Well, 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.320 let's seed in okay, Well we see how Philly gets. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.599 They make their big plays off of opportunities like that. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.439 So that's what I'm saying, Let's not give them the 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.760 opportunity to do that. And I would much rather sit 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.360 back and play coverage and have him spied, making sure 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.720 that he can't run for first downs then allow him 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.079 to have big play opportunities. That's how Philly beats you 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.120 with big plays. You also got to think about the 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.520 matchup that you have specifically with your personnel outside of 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.600 Michael Parsons, because if you don't have Parsons spying, who 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.599 would do it. You're not gonna relegate this guy to 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.560 just do He's gonna have to be important in your 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.760 running game. He's also gonna have to be He's gonna 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.800 have to generate that pressure. Look, thirty seven snaps, thirty 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.679 nine snaps at defensive end. It was seventy one total 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.800 defensive snaps. I'm saying, you can move him around, you can, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.120 you can spy him sometimes, you can do some other things. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.200 This what I'm saying is his ability to create pressure 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.320 is something that if you cannot go away from at 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.720 this point in the season period, he's gonna do it anyway. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.080 Because even in Week one he was a linebacker off 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.880 the ball, but he rushed twelve times. Whether he lined 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.440 up an end, he blitzed from the middle, he did 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.439 all those things. I think there's like a I was 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.599 talking to somebody about this the other day. There's like 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.240 a balance to me between he's rushing the whole game 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.080 and that's it. Yeah, and he's only getting he's getting 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.199 less than forty snaps because they're trying to preserve his 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.120 you know, keep him fresh. It takes a lot out 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.880 of you. Yeah, I'd like him on the field longer 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.640 than that. But maybe it's more than just twelve rushes 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.559 like in Week one, because like I'm with heck like 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.960 watching that and there's better tackles you're gonna go up 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.280 against the season, But he's screaming off the head. I mean, somebody, 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.880 Tom Paris Pellicero, i think, compared him to Von Miller. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.480 Somebody told him that as Yeah, and that's kind of 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.040 what it reminds like watching that Super Bowl with the Broncos. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.559 And I'm not you know, I don't know about the cake, 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.679 but that off the edge and that quickness, that's what 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.360 it reminded me of in that game. I am not 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.679 disagreeing with you, guys. I'm just telling you, guys, with 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.520 the type of quarterback that we are facing this week, 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.680 that type of pressure doesn't bother them. It just doesn't. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.120 And there's a thing called a green dog. You might 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.439 be familiar with it. A green dog as a linebacker. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.040 If you put Michael Parsons that linebacker, green dog, the stay. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.920 The linebackers have responsibilities. If I'm watching you and you're 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.880 a running back, you're selling You're Sanders right, you're a 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.760 running back. If you step up in block, guess what 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.200 I'm gone. I could blitz right. If you go out 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:47.599 in a route, then guess what one of us have 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.360 to go take you? Right. So there's a thing called 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.240 a green dog where those guys would literally linebackers would 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.520 sit it there. So imagine Parsons sitting there in middle linebacker. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:55.520 He sits there, he checks if the linebacker, if the 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.520 running back the size of stay in. I could blitz. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.120 I could come My response ability still is Hurts. But 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:03.480 I can come in. I can blitz it. I can 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:04.920 shoot whatever gap I want to, as long as I 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.400 keep him as my responsibility. Or if there's guys go out. 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.439 If the receiver, the running back decides to go out 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:10.760 and a route, now we have to go out there 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.240 and field him. And I'm still Parsons, still keep my 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.839 eye on Hurts. All I'm saying is Negate the guy 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.800 who can actually make plays on this team. And if 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.520 they can't make plays on this team unless Hurts throws 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.280 the ball, and that's why your safeties are going to 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.760 be so much more important in this matchup because of 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.719 the read option. And I think you found something with 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.000 Curse and what he can do in the running game 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.760 as well. But I'm just saying watching the film on 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.960 Michael Parsons, I mean, look, man, I don't know how 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.040 you replace that. And if I'm taking Lawrence, I'm looking 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:42.000 at this and Oh, that's it. That's it. Not even 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.000 hold on player. I'm like, oh, that's it. Because if 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.480 you're gonna have to relegate a tight end or a 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.000 running back to chip him, oh, I'm on an island 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.360 by myself. And that's what Tank has had to go against. 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.679 The whole NFL is on notice with the kind of 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.839 speed that Michael has, and when you can generate what 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.959 he's doing from the outside, trus me Jalen Hurts is 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:04.439 going to be looking for number eleven now with Michael 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.000 Parsons and his inexperience at the edge rusher spot. I 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.000 know it's tougher to play this in a sound fundamental way, 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.839 but wide nines are what we're probably going to see 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.520 a lot this week, and the wide nines at the 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.719 defensive in spot, putting him out wide to try and 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.280 contain Jalen Hurts. We're gonna talk about it a little 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.959 bit later in film room. That'll be on Dallas Cowboys 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.120 dot com. But Isaiah, how much tougher is that to play? 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.079 If you are inexperience at the defensive in spot? And 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.400 do you believe that Micah could play that if he 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.439 were to line up at the visitive I think Michael 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.599 Parsons could play whatever he wants to. And it just 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.960 really comes down to how do we want to utilize him. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.040 Do we want to throw him out at Dan and 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.839 just have him say, oh man, he got he he 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.360 beat that tackle. But guess what Jalen Hurts went inside 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.560 of him and got outside contained. Or do we say, oh, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.000 can we put it? He put him at Dan again? 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.480 I guess he goes inside and he forces Jalen Hurts outside. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.120 Oh gosh, we lost him again, right? I mean, that's 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.520 that's that's what I foresee happened, because that's what myself, 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.520 other guys who have the running ability do when you 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.880 when you talk about defense is going against um who 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:09.040 are just blanked out Baltimore Jesus Lamar Jacksonson, Lamar Jackson. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.760 Do you not work defensive ends, don't get to Lamar Jackson. 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.839 They don't defensive ends, don't get to Lamar Jackson. He 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.439 will make you pay either way, no matter if you 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.640 get great upfield rush, he makes you pay if you 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.839 stay inside and get you don't get a rush in it, 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.480 and you just kind of kind of I am guess what, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.880 He's still gonna run by you. There's no winning at 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.360 that level. I would much rather have my dogs at 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.959 linebacker keeping an eye on that dude. Now guess what, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.800 Now he can't run around. Yeah, now he can't run around. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.200 So that's what I'm saying. I totally agree with you, Parsons. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.920 Is the beans he killed it. But in this particular game, 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.360 that is not the advantage for us. And most of 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.960 the time when you come against say running quarterback, assignment, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.079 alignment is important. You gotta stay in your land, you 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.400 gotta do your job. But when you have a guy 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.320 that can generate the kind of pressure that he does, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.680 if hurts, if Jackson, any of those guys don't feel 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.400 that pressure coming on their back, that's the Sacks drip fumble, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.640 I mean, and you see it for Lamar Jackson. Look, 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.360 you talked, and I get it. He's a special talent 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.800 and you use the best of the best when you 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.040 when you pull that out. But I'm telling you what 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.439 we have on defense. There are ten other guys that 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.559 are going to be pursuing with Michael Parsons as well. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.400 Put him down there and let him do what he do. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.679 I'm just telling you this is this guy has the 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.559 talent to get to the quarterback when he wants to. 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.600 Just to play Devil's advocate here really quickly robbed. You 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.640 want to point no, go ahead, go ahead something out 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.840 You said, just using the point of Lamar Jackson that 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.800 an ad rusher is not gonna get to Lebarn Jackson. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.800 Well that's not necessarily Lebron Jackson. Did I say Lebron 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:39.840 Lamard Max Crosby in Week one? And the reason why 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.560 I remember this because I was watching him as Monday 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.600 Night Football and Lamar Jackson was as a running quarterback. 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.120 Max Crosby was in his grill all day long. He 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:52.200 had thirteen pressures in Week one, including two sacks and 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:57.120 eight hurries. I'm not saying Michael Parsons is Max Crosby 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.520 at the usher so so to that point, that's a 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.600 that's a great stat However, again, as a quarterback who 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.640 has ability to run, a pressure means crap to me, 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.840 a pressure, Yeah, to semi hits and and that's that's 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.920 that's gonna be. That's that's a part that comes with it. Right. 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.800 But what are you risking? Right? We talked about risk 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.040 factors yesterday? What are you risking if you allow for 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.040 me to get out the pocket and do what I do. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.680 I'm I believe that Jalen Hurts is more confident. I'm 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:21.920 not saying he doesn't have the ability to sit in 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.360 the pocket. I think he's more confident outside the pocket. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.720 The big players for the Philadelphia Eagles come with him 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.560 going where outside the pocket? Right, So, because he has 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.680 a threat to run or throw your linebacker, your second 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.960 level of defenders have to make a decision. Do I 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.440 want to drop back and coverage and and and take 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.480 care of the over routes in the in the end 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.320 routes and all those things that come out when when 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.960 I have more time, or do I want to come 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.000 up from pressure him pick your poison when I'm in 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.800 the pocket. I have to be more strategic. I have 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.320 to be more justin Herbert, right, I have to make 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.520 those kinds of tensions. And their offense isn't set up 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.280 like like like like the Charges almost say San Diego, 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.640 like the Chargers defense, I mean like Chargers offense. So 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.920 they're not set up that way. They want the big chunks, 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.120 that's what they want. They want the big chunks. And 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.640 if you don't allow him to get out of the pocket, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.720 our secondary won't allow those big chunks because we're not 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.080 going to take those risks, hopefully against these guys to 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:10.720 come up and try to play press man and all 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.120 that jazz. So that's that's all I'm saying. I don't know, 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.240 that's that's that's that's all I'm saying. I'm saying, take 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.000 the Bill Belichick, Ben, but don't break because you're they 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.160 are going to make a mistake and give you the rock. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.040 Walk him down. I think y'all both right, Like I 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.480 want to see him rush more just because it's fun. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.240 I mean, that was just fun to watch and they 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.840 and he does bring a different element. And and you 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.280 may not have Doorance Armstrong this week, and so you're 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.840 you're still kind of weak, yeah, depth wise on your 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.080 on your defensive line to what you normally are, but 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.520 you're right. Like watching him on, hurts On felt like 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.880 the play is never over. You get to play are dangerous. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.840 You can't touch him. And if you if you look 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.160 back at what the Cowboys did last first time they 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.920 played him right after Christmas last year, they put c J. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.440 Goodwin in the middle of the defense as a spy 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:01.360 for sixteen snaps because they got you mentioned Lamar Jackson. 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.480 They got burned by Lamar Jackson. Last year. They got 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.320 burned by Kyler Murray and they and they got burned 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.000 by Jalen hurts in the first quarter. He had over 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.479 fifty rushing yards in the first half, and they put 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.800 c J. Goodwin there as a spy and they they 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.320 stopped it. They kept him basically in the pocket from 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.320 getting to the second level and it worked. That's what 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.720 you do it with the safety with a yeah. And 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.400 now they've added more speed at linebacker, They've got more options. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.879 So that is an option. Use your best use your 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.159 best athlete to take out their best athlete. But I 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:31.840 do want to see him. I know you want to know. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.720 Nobody want to see it. But as think about our secondary. 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.199 If you give receivers these receivers who are just they 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.160 want to go down the field. If you give them 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.399 more time to run their routes, and not only to 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.359 their first route, but their adjustment right off of that. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.000 Once they see the containment has been broken, that's when 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.840 they're dangerous. So because he has a cannon, he could 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.480 throw the ball off boundless, he cold throw it across 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.000 his body. He can get the ball to places that 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.160 most quarterbacks can't. So don't give him that opportunity. That's 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.960 all I'm saying. Get the opportunity. I get what you're saying, 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.399 and I like your your thought process here. But just 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.560 out of the four play a second out of the 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.639 four here, would you would you put him at edge usher? Absolutely? Yes? 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.879 Or no? No? Yeah? Sometimes see I say yes, some 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.359 I would say I would say not every not for 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.639 thirty nine snaps consistently, but some, Yeah, because fifteen snaps 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.840 at edge rusher, yeah or twenty whatever, But yeah, you know, 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.240 and you remember you got counter Neil two. There's another 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.159 guy as safety who who's got speed. I don't know 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.320 if he's not for three four, three, two five two fifth, 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.520 he's not that Yeah, don't disrespect to him. He's just 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.960 not yeah, all right. 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Working out doesn't require 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.240 you to change your mindset. That just means that you 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.160 wouldn't there a sweat it. Training means that you're actually 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.880 preparing for something. That's a good point. It's a difference. Wow, Yeah, 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:05.119 Well are you working out? Are you training? Huh? Are 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:09.400 you working out or are you training? Neither? Heckman's training training. 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.160 He's focused. That's why I'm gonna walk him down first. 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.240 I'm he's on my list. First, he's on the hit list. 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.000 He's on the list. I made a list. Kyle Yomans 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:19.440 on that list. Time. I've been on that list a 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.360 long time. No, no, no, you just got on the list. 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.720 He just got on the list. Here, you got your 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:28.159 money on CBO. I got a few names. We'll talk 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.800 about it. Who Kyl and Heckman? Who you got your 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:37.640 money on? And what that's a raising question? Is it's 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.520 forty yard dash? Yeah? Forty Okay, I give you got 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:44.000 forty yards? You got sixty sixty yard dash? That's what 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.440 I ran you guys? Who you got CB? Open your mouth, Chris, 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:54.520 I mean, oh boy, just when you thought, what that's okay, 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:58.680 that's okay, that's okay. Transitation. No, I got you, I 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:08.160 got you. I got training played college football, okay, I mean, Kyle, 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:11.000 what's your resume, buddy, I don't know. He ran too 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:16.760 the Star and back. Yeah, when I played baseball. But okay, 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:20.359 that's the thing is played. I played baseball up until 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.360 twenty fifteen, and Heckman played in like nineteen eighty three. 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.600 Oh I don't think. I mean, I don't think that 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:32.960 sound anything that sounded good. That sound. I don't think 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:37.440 age has anything to do with ever running. I feel 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.880 like that I will see. I love that mindset for you, Chris. 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:45.240 I don't know if I cree, but okay, do you 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.680 think Michael Irvin can beat you? And okay, Michael Irvin's 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:53.479 a Hall of Fame athlete said he doesn't make a difference. 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.520 It makes a difference if you're not an elite athlete. 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.240 So you hear this. The whole is just see the 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:05.879 shoulder struck. Yeah, yeah, all right. I asked about the 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:09.440 safeties and I want to hear more about Jameron curs 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:11.639 in the day that Demante Kez had because both of 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.080 which made an impact on the win over the Chargers 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.000 this past Sunday. But when you look ahead, I mean 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.359 we've already talked about creeping safeties up heck, mon, I 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.280 want to get your opinion on this. What do you 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:25.160 see the rotation looking like? Because Donovan Wilson, at least 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.160 at the moment, looks like he should be healthy. There's 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.640 still a question mark around him and he's questionable heading 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.720 into the week returning from a groin injury. But do 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.280 you think he is going to be challenged in terms 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:37.800 of the rotation? There are you going to see a 0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:42.280 lot more cursing Casey. He's already been challenged. The tape 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.840 is out, and I think Jeron curs and Jerry said 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.280 yesterday on the fan, he's like the way that Dan 0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:52.920 Quinn is re revolution revolutionizing the strong safety position with 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.760 that guy with his size and strength and what he 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.000 can do even in the passing game. I think it 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:02.320 makes him very valuable to this to this franchise, just 0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:04.480 being able to pressure the line of scrimmage and also 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.680 do what he does in the passing games against tight ends. 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.960 And you know what Philly's gonna bring. They have a 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.040 tight end up well, I think one of them's hurt. 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.000 But Urtz is on the COVID list. But against I'm 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.600 just saying, like a guy Dallas Goddard, he would be 0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.159 I would trust Curse, but I also trust Wilson. I mean, 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.000 Wilson has done some really good thing. I think it's 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.520 just back to the culture point, the competition point, and 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.359 I love it, and I think Kurs should get a 0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:28.960 lot of the lion share of those snaps. Why has 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.960 Donovan Wilson gotten so much flack through two weeks of 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.760 the year. I felt like towards the end of the year. Black. Yeah, 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:37.639 I don't think he has You don't think so, No, 0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.600 he's injured, No, I mean he's Yeah, he hasn't. It's 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:43.000 been kind of on and off since OTAs. He's had 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.520 kind of been dealing with stuff, like I forget what 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.400 he had. He had a little knee thing right before 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.960 training camp, and then end of camp he's had the 0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:53.800 growing deal. So I don't I don't think he's played poorly, 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.879 not necessarily in terms of his play, but just in 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.480 terms of him having a starting role. Because at the 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.640 end of the last year, we were saying, hey, sharpie 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:06.479 him him as the starting safety going into twenty twenty one, 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.720 and then all of a sudden, You're right, something changed, 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.680 And if it's the culture, it's the culture. But also, 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.359 I mean, he did have kind of a poor off season, 0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.399 So is that really the way that it went into it? 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:22.960 I think I think what heck saying about the ability 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:27.760 to cover that versatility is a different element that curse brings. 0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.320 And I asked Dan Quinn about it the other day 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.679 and he talked about how they've got this big nickel 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:38.720 formation with three safeties and it's they're using curse down 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.400 in the box, They're using them over tight ends. They'll 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.480 play him deep, they'll play him everywhere. And that's that's 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.560 a different kind of dimension that he's bringing to this 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.720 group right now. And you know, Donno's more i'd say 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.000 more box safety he is, you know, and and so 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.280 that's it's just two different types of players. I think 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.080 that's part of it. But I think they've got four 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.399 safeties they feel good about. I mean, Casey's gonna get 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.119 his snaps. Curses obviously gonna get his snaps, and now 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.199 Malie Cooker's coming on too. I mean, I think all 0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:07.480 four of them are going to play. To be honest 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:11.680 with you, has there ever been a six four, two 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.760 hundred and twenty pounds safety that dan Quinn has coached 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:19.639 in the past that was highly successful? I don't know. 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.399 I think you could think of one. Seattle Cam Chancellor, 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:27.080 that Cam guy, Yeah, yeah, that guy. Yeah. This is 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.520 not new to dan Quinn. This is not new to him. 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.240 He knows exactly what he's doing. He's done it before this. 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.720 He has a personnel now to be flexible. As we 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:39.000 keep mentioning every single week, whatever you have, we can 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.080 match it up. And I'm gonna scheme it up based 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.720 upon my guys attributes in their skill sets and what 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:45.680 they do best. We're gonna put our team in the 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.360 best scenario to go out here and win games. Let's 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.240 see what he has this week. But as a serious 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:57.760 comp Cam Chancellor this you're talking. No, no, I did 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.600 not make the direct comparison. No, no, okay, all right, 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.680 I'm that's jumping out the case. Okay, but I'm saying 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.040 size wise, Cam is bigger, right, just wait wise, he's 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.800 probably about ten fifteen pounds heavier. But he's he's had 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.720 this before, he's had a big safety before, and he 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.560 knows what to do with him. So he has he 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.600 has the vision because he's done it already. He's not 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.400 just this isn't an experiment for dan Quinn. Dan Quinn 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.280 has already had success with somebody of this, of this 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.560 of this nature, so he knows exactly what to do 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.479 with it. He's got another really tall safety back there 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.040 as well, in Israel Mukuama, who was active didn't see 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.960 the field. He's not ready yet, he exactly. But that's 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:38.840 I mean, you talk about four guys they feel really 0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:40.560 good about. Like what Rob said a minute ago, and 0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.040 then you added Mukuamo into that factor. This is as 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.360 deep as the Cowboys have been at safe very long time, 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:49.760 in a very long that's a bad word, deep as safety. Sorry, yeah, 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.960 I probably shouldn't say anything. The interesting about Curses that 0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.960 he's he's been mostly like a special teams guy throughout 0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.080 his career, but he started twelve games in a couple 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:03.160 of different spots. And I mean, like you said, Dan 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.560 was talking about that yesterday, like, we will get a 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.960 safety in here for a specific trait. It may not 0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.479 be everything, but just a specific trait, whether he's long, 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.080 whether he's able to cover tight ends. And that's the 0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.920 thing about Dan that I think I just sense it 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.760 more than I did with the previous DC in here, 0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:22.720 is that there is a clear vision for I know 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:24.959 exactly what I want. I'm gonna bring this guy in here, 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:26.880 and he's gonna have this specific role and we're gonna 0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:28.560 get it done. Like just when he talks to you, 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.320 you just have a better understanding of what they're going 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.080 to do. And I think the players probably do two 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.040 this year. So who is the toughest matchup for the 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.400 safeties this weekend? Is it Jalen Hurts or is it 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.040 somebody that's gonna take the top off of a defense 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.800 at a wide receiver spot. Jalen Hurts. I mean, I 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:50.200 think coverage alone will prevent these receivers from getting off again. 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:54.200 Coverage will prevent the initial route from getting off right. 0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.840 Double high safety will prevent these guys from getting over 0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:00.160 the top of our of our cornerbacks. But if you 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.560 let Hurts out, if you allow here to go out 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.920 and guess what, these plays get extended and in receivers 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.360 start running around or wherever is open, regardless of what 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.720 was drawing up on the play. Scramble drill and scramble 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.360 drill works a high percentage of the time because you 0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.640 can't predict it and you don't see it on film. 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.160 You don't say, oh, okay, when they line up in 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.760 this formation, he's running this. As soon as he scrambles, 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.120 this receiver's gonna go run right here. No, that's not 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.200 it's not a you don't get to negate that. It's 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.000 like if you want to react to Jalen Hurts, because 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.240 you have to react to Jalen Hurts otherwise he will 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.240 literally yawg his way to a first down and move 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.640 the chains. Okay, And if you don't if you react 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.760 to him. Once you do react, then that opens up 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.880 things for big plays, whether it's a fifteen to twenty 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.680 yard pass across the field because somebody's coming from the backside, 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:44.400 or whether it's a receiver who had a ten to 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:46.480 twelve yard round who had turned around initially and then 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.080 as soon as they see him coming, they spin out 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.000 and they go deep. That presents problems. And that's what 0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:52.600 I want to cut back, because I don't think that 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.600 Jalen Hurts sitting back in the pocket beats Dallas. I 0:30:55.680 --> 0:31:00.920 mean his impro improvalizational skills on a thousand, he gets 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.200 into it, gets into trouble, he escapes, he's able to 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.120 look up the field and do some great things. You 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.120 just said it like they want to get the big 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.880 chunk plays, and they typically get those big chunk plays 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.800 when things break down. But when things break down, that's 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:17.800 not actually a design play. That's you improving getting things 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.600 where how it comes to you. That throws off the 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.800 timing of their offense. And I think the defense of 0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.720 the Dallas Cowboys defense has an opportunity right now to 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.200 bottle up Jalen Hurts. Once you do that and stop 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.960 him for the like against the forty nine ers, ten 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.640 carries for eighty two yards. You can't allow him to 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.280 get into that kind of a rhythm. So keeping him 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.120 bottled up, not allowing him to do to improvising and 0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.400 get those chunk plays is what the what the Cowboys 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.280 have to do to win this matchup. You gotta deal 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.400 with their speed anyway, even before it breaks down. I mean, 0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.480 watching them watching their games, it's like, am I watching 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.320 like on a podcast? Am I watching this like one 0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.360 point five speed as opposed to just one point oh? 0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.240 Like they are fast. That is a fast off I 0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.720 mean hurts for sure. But you mentioned for the show 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:05.200 as Watkins, the rookie Smith, Gregor. I mean, they have 0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.480 acquired so much speed on this offense, and so that's 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.920 even when things don't break down, that's gonna that's gonna 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.880 present challenges for the secondary. And they hit some shots 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.680 in this game, now that's kind of all they were 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.040 able to do. But they had some some near misses 0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.160 in that in that game and a few Cisco I 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.480 mean I think it was Ragor, they had one foot 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.080 out of bounds touchdown he had he ran out of bounds, 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.120 was called the legal touching, and they brought it back. 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.080 They had a block field goal, they get all the 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.000 way down a three yard line after a big catch. 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.960 But I think, ys, yeah, they try to run the 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.320 Philly Special and that didn't work, really did it. But 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:43.160 they had they could have won that game. And I 0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.520 know they did the offense struggle, but they looked really 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.520 good in week one though, so we'll see. Well, when 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.920 you talk about the safeties and what this massive matchup 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.160 is going to mean, I mean, Kazee, I believe it 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.360 is going to be very important to you in the 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.440 middle of the field, just kind of surveying all of 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.040 that and stopping the big place from happening down the field. 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.400 But man, guys, Anthony Brown have got to bring those 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.520 for the looms of this game. He's got what he's 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.440 got to bring it. I like that. 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We've got 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.960 about ten more minutes left. Used to be mahomie here 0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.760 if this one still mad? Still upset? Man, it's okay. 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.680 Threw Chris under the bus, um, let's talk about the corners. 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:33.080 Trayvon digs with an interception. On Sunday, you saw Jordan 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:39.000 Lewis I think had a pretty decent day from his standards, 0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.880 and then Anthony Brown. Was he improved on Sunday? I 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.440 don't really know. After going back and watching it, it 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:46.440 was hard to tell whether or not he really had him. 0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:51.120 I know, whatever happened twenty two, they took it off, 0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.359 and I guess there's a revolt and I think they're 0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.360 supposed to be putting it back. That was, yeah, it 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:58.400 was like two weeks ago. Still, they lost a lot 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.600 of sponsh a lot of viewer ship. I think membership, 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.600 a lot of the reason why people paid for game Pass. 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.320 But yeah, hopefully they'll get it back. But Rob, what 0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.279 did you see from Anthony Brown and what he put 0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.680 on the field Sunday? Where did you hear what Heckman thought? 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.120 Because but no, But I think I thought it was fine. 0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.239 I mean, he didn't he didn't leak, he didn't have 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.520 the same matchup. Let's just say that now. We did 0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:22.200 talk about the size difference with Mike Williams, and Mike 0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.000 Williams made some play, especially near the sideline there. But I, 0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.480 you know, I thought it was it was fine. I 0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:29.960 was more impressed with what Trayvon Diggs did, even though 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.400 he gave up some plays just because he's having to 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.799 shadow a top eight receiver in the NFL. No, that's 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.560 the same thing. I was impressed with Trayvon Diggs his 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.560 coverage ability. I think he's gotten so much better in 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.399 year two. I thought Mike Brown was having his way 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:49.080 at a certain point with Mike Williams with Anthony Brown. 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.319 Mike Williams, Okay, yes, sir, that guy, the big guy. 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:55.600 I thought he was having his way. I mean, we 0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:57.680 have to remember he did have a touchdown taking back 0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.759 due to a penalty. Um. Yeah, I just look, it's 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.359 tough matchup for Anthony Brown. He's he's finding his way 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.319 through the season. He had seventy when he had all 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:10.120 of the snaps on defense, and so obviously I'm trusting 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:13.759 dan Quinn. Dan Quinn hasn't you know, they hadn't gone 0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:15.440 out into the free agent market brought in a big 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:20.680 name like everybody would want and hadn't brought in and 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.640 they hadn't elevated any of the rookies. So obviously there, 0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:27.160 I just have to trust that there's nothing better behind him. 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.360 I need to see the all twenty two to be 0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.680 honest with you, to see and have a real, yeah, 0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.080 real recap on him. It's just it's just very difficult 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.680 to judge that position without seeing that over here. And 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:43.279 that was past interference too. Yeah, dude, are you guys 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:47.319 surprised that Maurice Kennedy has not seen really any playing time? 0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.000 He's had two coverage snaps in the first two weeks. 0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:55.240 Any after the offseason that he showed. Are you surprised 0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.160 by that at all? A little bit? Yeah, a little bit. 0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.680 I mean, and again, the matchups for ab have not 0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:04.440 been easy, but we've seen kind of a safety rotation. 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.880 So yeah, I'm a little I'm a little surprised, and 0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:10.080 I'll be interested to see number one win Kelvin Joseph 0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.080 comes back, but number two when he can maybe get 0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.200 in this mix. When is he expected to come back? 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:19.080 He's eligible next week, that's say, going into the Carolina game, right, Yeah, 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:22.440 not sure what the timeline is. I don't think it 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.840 could be too far away though. I mean, you know, 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.120 we're not talking. He didn't have a serious, serious injury 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:28.759 and that was the last week at camp, you know. 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.399 And maybe Jordan Lewis is playing just that good when 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.000 you when you talk about Mary's Kennedy, maybe twenty six 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.879 is is holding up Anthony and Brown and Jordan Lewis 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.040 are making five million dollars a year. I don't expect 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:41.880 anybody to get thrown in front of them unless they 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:45.560 just freaking botchet. You're following the money. Yes, that happens 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:50.520 in this league. I could see that Jordan Lewis three tackles, 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.000 two stops. He's given up a seventy one point five 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.879 passer rating in eleven point four yards per reception, which 0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.480 actually all those numbers are pretty decent. I mean those 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.280 are oh yeah A numbers. So he hasn't played poorly. 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.719 His grades aren't great, but the stats aren't bad. No, 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.719 But I mean Kennedy's played on the outside too. Mainly 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.960 was an inside corner in camp. But but you know 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.120 he's a vet. He could play outside too. All right, 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.280 So if you guys had one player outside of Jalen 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:18.920 Hurts that you're going to keep your eye on for 0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:23.319 this Philadelphia offense going into Monday night football, which player 0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.719 would that be? What? What? What matchup do you do? 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:27.839 You feel like worries you the most when you look 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:33.600 at this Eagles offense. I'll start with you, Isaiah good Radio. 0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.520 Yeah you know I don't good stuff wasn't prepared for 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.480 you get your red line today? No, I didn't. I 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:43.719 try to drink that once a week. Um, I'm really 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.680 not too concerned. Is that bad? I'm really not too concerned. 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.399 They're fast, but I think I think coverage really comes 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.080 down to that. I don't think that there's gonna be 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.840 too many one on one matchups. I don't foresee, I 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.040 hope not, because we don't have the speed on the 0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:00.319 outside to go to run with these guys, and um, 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.000 we obviously just have to take care of that dude 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.560 back there. So I mean, that's and that's why I'm 0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:10.239 saying outside of hurts, they don't. They don't. I mean, 0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.839 they're what I've already are you to put my point 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.920 today in terms of their ability to extend plays that 0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.520 scares me. That scares me, But there their base offense 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:22.600 does not scare me, nor does anybody on their on 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.200 their roster. They have fast guys, but you can have 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.000 fast guys all day longing from running two man, you 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.520 can't do a dog own thing. If just looking at 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.279 the tape and just knowing our reputation from last year, 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:37.360 Miles Sanders, if they're and because of the size of 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.239 Philly's offensive line, they got a big offensive line and 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:44.120 they're up too though awesome guys, all of that, all 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:46.640 things being considered equal, I just feel like for them, 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.400 they're better run blockers than they are pass blockers. And 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.120 so I think Miles Sanders is the kind of running 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.400 back that will lower you to sleep. You know, one 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.279 drop here, one drop there, next thing you know, he's 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.560 got a big run. So I think for this defense, 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.920 every week is going to be stopped the run and Philly, 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:05.239 if they're able to establish that, I think if they have, 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:07.879 you know, a good day running, it's gonna spe spell 0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.440 disaster for our defense. I think LV and Jalen, I 0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:13.799 think I think they really negate that. I don't see 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.560 their old line just washing our defensive line from what 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.560 I've seen from our guys this year, um and I 0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.879 think that our second level guys have had a kick 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.560 in the butt and they now have they've woken up. 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.600 They've woken up right so where they feel like, Okay, 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.480 if I don't play my best, then I won't play. 0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.200 I think they saw that Week one. I'm obviously aside 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.600 from just the matchups, so I think that those guys 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.719 have there, They're awake, and they're ready to make some play. 0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:40.840 So I don't I am not threatened by this running attack, 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.279 this rushing attack. Now there's something that will come down 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.200 the line that we'll have to take on. But in 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.920 terms of this particular team, I'm really not concerned. Now 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.319 he is a versatile back. If he gets going, it's 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:51.920 all yeah, yeah, if you have to account for him, 0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:53.800 you know, in screens and things of that nature. But 0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.640 in terms of them just lining up running the ball, 0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.520 not concerned. In terms of them just lining up and 0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.719 throwing the ball down the field, not concerned in terms 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:01.480 of them lining up and getting out the pocket and 0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:05.279 making some stuff happen. Better watch out, little concern. Yeah, yeah, 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.200 I was. I'm with you guys. Attack on the run 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.520 game because the charges. We didn't talk much about it, 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.920 but they got five yards of pop last week and 0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.759 kind of attack those edges a little bit. And you 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:19.680 mentioned Miles Sanders, their rookie gain Well can do some 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.480 of that stuff, and he can do stuff in space. Um, 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.160 if I had to name one guy, I'd just say 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.759 Quiz Watkins just because of his speed and um, he 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:28.879 saw the play he made down the sideline last week, 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.120 and they're just you know that they're gonna have to 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.760 count for that speed as well as the RPO stuff, 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:36.440 and they try, you know, not a lot of teams 0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.239 do this, but they do a lot of motion with 0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:40.439 their receivers and try to get you with their eyes, 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.520 and that's that's dangerous. You know you got to watch that. Yeah, 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.399 you get that eyewash in front of you, you lose 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:49.760 a little bit of look, a little bit of I'm 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.440 sorry context. I wanted to go back to what you 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:56.879 said about lve Man when he's healthy, well he looks 0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.960 he is a stud. And the way that he attacked 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.239 the run, the line of scrimmage versus the Chargers that 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.680 just screamed the old LV E, the you know, two 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.920 tackles for a loss type style LV. And I think 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.279 when you have him going, that just screams. So also 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.760 the defensive line and the job that they're doing holding 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.120 blocks up and allowing these linebackers to scrape. And that's 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.919 why Isaiah will say, I'm not worried about the running 0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:21.879 game because of Jalen and LV, but I just think 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.640 it's just a much much improved defensive line. He's playing 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.560 like he's playing for for for a new contract. Oh 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.839 believe that drew three holding penalties two which means he's 0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.600 he's he's getting after it. And hey, and you know what, 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.319 if you're gonna rip Jalen Smith every week, give him 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.440 credit to because yes, I mean, he was well he 0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.240 was around the ball, he was moving sideline to sideline 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:42.600 to go chase and pursue and make plays. They both 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.359 played really well. It might have been the best I've 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:49.520 seen Jalen Smith move since nineteen. The difference in their approach, 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.400 like their energy is different, and that's a testament obviously 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.239 to the culture. But they're they're also threatened now. The 0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:57.480 position is so wake up call. I think it's a 0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.600 combination between the new culture, right, new energy on the 0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:02.880 whole side of the ball, right, their expectation of what 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.839 their play should be, and the fact that guess what, dude, 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:09.319 I gotta play if I have to earn my opportunities, 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.560 and I'm I can't take them for grantedy anymore. I'm 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.799 not the guy anymore. I'm not the one that they're 0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.000 talking about every week anymore. I'm an afterthought now. I 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:22.759 don't like that. That's the facts, That's that's the reality, right, 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:24.719 So I have to make plays. And I think you 0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:28.279 saw a totally different energy between LV and Jyles Smith 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.120 coming off a game where they only played fourteen fifteen snaps, 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:32.719 and they're gonna look in front of them this week 0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:34.840 and see a lot of new numbers in the backs 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:38.359 of numbers. If Carlos Watkins and Dorance Armstrong aren't able 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.600 to go, and then it's going to be it'll be 0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:44.000 a patchwork job on the defensive line. So ohso, Dicky 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:47.359 Zoo is gonna have a ton of play playing time 0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:49.719 in the middle. So we'll see what the challenges look 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.560 like for the linebackers lying ahead as well. But you're right, 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.239 they did play better and it looked like they were 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.040 playing up to an X level. But that's gonna do 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.719 it for us. Here on this edition of Talking Cowboys, 0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:02.400 we previewed the entire your matchup between the Eagles offense 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.320 and the Cowboys defense. Tomorrow, we flipped the script Cowboys 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.759 offense taking on a Eagles defense that looks pretty darn 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:13.440 good against Seattle. And in Week one, Eric, sorry, not Seattle. 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:18.000 I'm sorry San Francisco. Oh no, I'm gonna be I'm sorry, guys, 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.239 the Titans, YEP, should have taken the Titans. I forgot 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.239 about Seattle already. All right, that's gonna do it. Chris Bean, 0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:32.560 Rob Phillips, Isaiah bare Man, he's out of here. Oh gosh, 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.360 heck my Harrison, I'm Kyle. You want to see you tomorrow. 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.560 I'm talking Cowboys. 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