1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: On this episode of Newts World. You've got me Sean Hannity, 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: and guess what, I'm turning the tables on my good 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: friend New Gingrich and today I will be asking the 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: questions of New about his brand new book. You can 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: get it on an Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: bookstores everywhere, Defeating Big Government Socialism Saving America's Future. All right, 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: mister speaker. Great to be on your podcast, but I'm 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: really liking it even better because you're now releasing your 9 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: new book. It's called Defeating Big Government Socialism Saving America's Future. 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: I can't think of a more timely book at a 11 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: moment in history, and you're the greatest historian, not me. 12 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: That is necessary, especially as we head into I think 13 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: what will be the most important midterms in our lifetime. 14 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: And we've known each other now, going back since nineteen ninety. 15 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Most people might think this is weird, but we actually 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: met in a Holiday Inn hotel room. You were giving 17 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: a speech. I was a local radio host in Huntsville, Alabama, 18 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: and I was in a suit and tie, which is 19 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: rare for me. And you gave this young kid that 20 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: was new to talk radio only what three years experienced 21 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: at that time an opportunity to talk about all the 22 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: things that would lead up to you four years later 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: become a Speaker of the House and bringing Republicans back 24 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: to power. So you have all the intellectual firepower to 25 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: change the country again. And I think this is the 26 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: roadmap defeating big government, socialism, saving America's future. Let me 27 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: start with this. I've never been more worried about America's 28 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: future than that. Never ever, in my whole life, have 29 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: been more worried than now. Look, I think that's right. 30 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I just talked to a good mutual friend of ours, 31 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Gay Gaines, who was saying that she's frightened. She watches Biden, 32 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: she watches Harris, she watches Pelosian. She doesn't know what's 33 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: going to happen to the country. And I think anybody 34 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: who is not deeply worried, I think is out of 35 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: touch with reality. I think of the depth of the 36 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: Great Depression, or the period just before the American Civil War. 37 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: This is one of those moments when the world's really dangerous, 38 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: and we have a president who at best is cognitively challenged, 39 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: and we have a vice president who I think is 40 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: a perfect example of modern education. She doesn't know anything. 41 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: She doesn't know how to learn. I don't mean to laugh. 42 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean she either giggles inappropriately or she says something 43 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: that nobody can understand. Right. But I think it's literally 44 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: that she is the modern school graduate. She's the product 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: of the teachers union belief the knowledge is dangerous. As 46 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: long as you have good emotions, who cares if you 47 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: don't know anything? Well, in the president of vice president 48 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: United States, that is really a dangerous position. And so 49 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: none of us should hope anything happens to Biden, because 50 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: the vice president would be I think twenty times worse. 51 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: And that's saying a lot. I think Biden is the 52 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: worst president since James Buchanan, who's the guy who got 53 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: us into a civil war. And I think Biden's terrible, 54 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: and I think she would be literally ten or twenty 55 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: times more dangerous. Joe Biden, just to put emphasis on 56 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: this point, now has the lowest approval rating of any 57 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: president since nineteen forty eight at this time in his presidency. 58 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: And you're right about Kamala Harris. I mean, she is 59 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: in so far over her head. I mean that thought 60 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: frightens me. And then if she's one heartbeat away from 61 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: the presidency, as they say, and Nancy Pelosi's two heart 62 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: beats away. She's got her own cognitive struggles. But I 63 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: really want to stay focused on this. Joe Biden, for example, 64 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: said that he would get us off fossil fuels and 65 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: eliminate it. We're now paying five six seven dollars a 66 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: gallanph of gasoline. We have a forty two year high 67 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: of inflation. I keep playing tapes of Joe Biden saying 68 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to eliminate fossil fuels. So this is by design, 69 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: this is the new Green deal, you know, socialist agenda. 70 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: Your book is defeating big government, socialism, saving America's future. 71 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Now we get into the serious aspect of this and explain. 72 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, the title Alone Speaks volumes, Explain what that means. 73 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: Part of the reason I felt compelled to write this 74 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: book is I don't think people should think that the 75 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: failure of the Biden administration is just a personality failure. 76 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: I think these people believe things that don't work. They 77 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: believe them very deeply. I always tell people, you know, 78 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Reagan used to say, it isn't what rules don't know 79 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: that scares me. It's what they know that isn't true. 80 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, I mean Biden can't bring himself to understand 81 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: the simplest things. If you want more oil and gas, 82 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: you encourage American industry and almost overnight prices will come down. 83 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: You may remember because you and I did a great 84 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: project called Drill Here, Drill Now, pay lesson with you 85 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: driving it on radio and TV. We got a million, 86 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand people to sign up. And at the 87 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: time Obama represented exactly what Biden represents. And I did 88 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: a book called Gasoline at two fifty gallon, and Obama 89 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: attacked it and said, this is impossible. You'll never get there. 90 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: And of course Donald Trump got us the lowest price 91 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: of gasoling in modern times. And he did it the 92 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: old fashioned way. He used free enterprise to encourage companies 93 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: to go out and drill the gasoline, build the pipelines, 94 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: have the refineries, and the price came down. But I 95 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: want people to understand big government socialism is real. It 96 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: absolutely dominates our bureaucracies. Somebody said to me one time 97 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: that serving with Pompeo at the State Department was like 98 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: Fort Apache the Bronx, that they were surrounded by thousands 99 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: of people who hated the very idea of a pro 100 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: American foreign policy. And it just gives you a flavor 101 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: that the bidenministration just appointed a spokesperson, I think for 102 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: Religious Liberty who has said publicly the problem with white 103 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: diplomats as they're too pro American. Now, I mean, if 104 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: you're appointing somebody who as the American diplomat, who doesn't 105 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: want to be pro American, you have to think these people, 106 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: I think they actually have a mental health problem. We're 107 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: not just dealing with an ideology. We're dealing with people 108 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: who are so out of touch with reality they're sick. 109 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: But I wanted in the book Defeating Big Government Socialism, 110 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to give the people who watch your show 111 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: or who listen to my podcasts and what have you. 112 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: I wanted them to have the arguments so they could, 113 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: in their neighborhood, with their neighbors, make the case that 114 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: big government socialism doesn't work. We know, for example, because 115 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 1: as you know, we've been doing this very elaborate polling 116 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: program for the last four years. We know that free 117 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: market capitalism beats big government socialism by fifty nine to sixteen. 118 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Very different than Yale and Harvard think we know that 119 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: people are so convinced that the system isn't working that 120 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: we recently got results that by eighty seven percent of 121 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: the country once to restore the America that works. This 122 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 1: is way beyond liberal conservative. These are people who are saying, 123 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: I can't find infant formula. I just talked to somebody 124 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: who is redoing their house and they can't get things 125 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: because the logistics supply chain. You know, people can't afford 126 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: to go by yasoline. Close to the other day paid 127 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and four dollars to fill up our car 128 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: and was in a state of shock. And so I 129 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: want people to understand this is a result of bad ideas. 130 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: Now it's being implemented by people who are incompetent, but 131 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: even if they were competent, the idea are so bad 132 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: they won't work. And the purpose of the book Defeating 133 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: Big Government Socialism is to give you the tools so 134 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: you can go out and with your friends and your 135 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: neighbors over coffee, you can win the argument and help 136 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: them understand why we really do have to get back 137 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: to the things that have worked in America and get 138 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: away from the things that don't work. It's fascinating because 139 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: every election year, I will lay out a set of 140 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: points that I believe are most pertinent to the pending election, 141 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: and then people will accuse me of being repetitive, and 142 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm being repetitive by design. And my 143 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: hope is if I start something in January, by the 144 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: time November comes around, they will be able to regurgitate 145 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: it themselves to their friends and family because they have 146 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: heard it so often. You mentioned something that made me pause, 147 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: and that is Callista was stunned at one hundred and 148 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: four dollars to fill up our gas tank. We now 149 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: are at a point where two thirds of Americans now 150 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: live paycheck to paycheck. We're now at a point in 151 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: America where everybody has that same sticker shock. So you know, 152 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: when you open your book, you describe your visit to 153 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill and the Republican Study Committee, and you were 154 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: speaking before their weekly lunch and at the event, you know, 155 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: it really brought to your attention exactly how partisan Pelosi 156 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: and Democrats have become. I now say that they are 157 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: a climate alarmist religious cult, because the common sense would say, 158 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: when gas gets to five six bucks a gallon and 159 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: you inherited two dollars and thirty nine cents a gallon gasoline. 160 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: You go back to the policy as the work, but 161 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: they're not capable of that. So describe that moment where 162 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: you realize how bad things have changed. Well, let me 163 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: start by anyhow strong they agree with you. I think 164 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: you have to see the modern left as a secular religion. 165 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: I was really surprised. I went back doing some research, 166 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: and in nineteen seventy two, fifty years ago, Theodore White 167 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: wrote in his Making of the President of nineteen seventy 168 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: two that the liberal ideology had become a liberal theology 169 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: and could no longer be negotiated or modified because it 170 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: had the same impact as a religious theological position. Now 171 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: that's fifty years ago, and it's just gotten sicker and 172 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: sicker and sicker. I was very fortunate I'd been invited 173 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: to come to the Republican Study Committee, and Steve Scalise, 174 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: the Republican whip, was there. We had a great conversation 175 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: over lunch with about forty or fifty members, and afterwards 176 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: they said, why don't you come to the house floor. 177 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: I had not been in the house floor in years 178 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: because I don't feel like I should intrude on the 179 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: people who are currently elected. He said, it will shock 180 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats just to have you walk in. The idea 181 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: of shocking Pelosi kind of attracted me, so I said, sure, 182 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: I'll go over with you. Well. It was a real 183 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: revelation because you know, I've served in the US House 184 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: when it was the people's House, when you could walk 185 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: in and out casually, you could hang out when the 186 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: House wasn't in session, you could bring your friends on. 187 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: And as we went over there is like being at 188 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: an airport. You had to go through a Capitol Police 189 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: controlled magnetometer. You had to make sure you didn't have 190 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: a gun or anything else. And I'm thinking, these are 191 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: the people elected by the people in the United States, 192 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: and they are being subordinated to the Capitol Police. They're 193 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: being subordinated to the speaker's staff. They're being basically told 194 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: that they have to be meek and obedient. They're being 195 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: given bills they haven't read and told they have twenty 196 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: minutes to vote on them. And Pelosi. And I say 197 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: this as a former Speaker of the House, and people 198 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: thought I was pretty strong when I was speaker. Pelosi 199 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: runs a dictatorship, and I'm amazed. I must say, as 200 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: a technical fact, she has a four vote margin. The 201 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: House is designed so if you have a one vote margin, 202 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, you can get almost anything done. It's very 203 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: different than the Senate. But she really does run a dictatorship. 204 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: And as I went on the floor and looked around, 205 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: I realized, this is almost an effort to undermine and 206 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: cripple the morale of the freely independent people. You know, 207 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: the House should be a place where four hundred and 208 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: thirty five people elected by their own folks back home, 209 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: show up with pride, with strength, with courage, represent their folks, 210 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: get into arguments, disagree with each other, and gradually shape 211 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: legislation that everybody has thought about and read and studied 212 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: and tried to modify. Instead, everybody now basically is told 213 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: that they're all mushrooms. They're going to be kept in 214 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: the dark, they're going to know nothing, and when the 215 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: dictator decides she'll bring something to the floor, her side 216 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: will vote yes. And it's astonishing level of control. Now, 217 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: if I could, I wanted to just about to tell 218 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: you a story that I was so touched by, and 219 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: that's probably the heart of why I feel so deeply 220 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: about this when I was the Republican whip during the 221 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: closing days of the Soviet Empire, we had a delegation 222 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: of about twenty or twenty five journalists who came from 223 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union to visit the Capitol and we were 224 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: out of session. So in contrast to the Pelosi dictatorship, 225 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I took all of them on the House floor. Here 226 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: are all these folks who come from all over the 227 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: Soviet Empire, and they're all reporters, and I said, here's 228 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: what we're going to do. I want one of you 229 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: to come up here and sit where the Speaker sits. 230 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: Now I want somebody else come up here. You stand 231 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: where the President stands when he gives the State of 232 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: the Union. And then I talked about the fact, for example, 233 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: that the Speaker and the Vice President sit above the 234 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: President because they're the hosts. He is their guests, because 235 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: this is a co equal branch of government. I always 236 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: tell people I worked with presidents. I never worked for 237 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: a president because I was independently elected. So anyway, we 238 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: get done doing this, and the guy who is in 239 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: the Speaker's share is physically trembling as he comes down, 240 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: and he was a nice guy from Latvia. And he 241 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: said to me, you know, after the Russians occupied us 242 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty, they gave us all this propaganda, but 243 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: none of us ever believed that. We all had relatives 244 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: in Chicago. We all understood America. We were all pro American. 245 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: He said, And I'm so emotional because you allowed me 246 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: to sit at the center of freedom. And I said 247 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: to him, you're exactly right. The White House is not 248 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: the center of freedom. The White House is an elected kingship. 249 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: The center of freedom is the capital. It's the House 250 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: and the Senate. It's independently elected people. And what Pelosi 251 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: has done is she has basically crippled the very strength 252 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: of freedom that is essential to you and me and 253 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: our children and grandchildren living in a free country. And 254 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: that's why I think it's so vital this both to 255 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: defeat them, but also the point I make again and 256 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: again in my new book on defeating big government socialism, 257 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: this is a lesson I learned from Argot Thatcher. We 258 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: have to defeat the idea, not just defeat the people. 259 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: It's almost appropriate, considering the example you just cited, to 260 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: go back and mentioned Alexander Soldianista and his speech at Harvard. 261 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: You're a far greater or historian than me. But his 262 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,239 Speaker 1: admonition and his warning about what was happening in America. 263 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: One of the things that is very stark to me 264 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: about the times we're living in is for most of 265 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: my career I have found that the Democrat Party, in particular, 266 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: we try to hide who they are. They try to 267 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: hide their socialism or redistributionism. They are now openly advocating 268 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: for things that in the past they would never ever 269 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: utter publicly, which is eliminating fossil fuels, the whole Green 270 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: New Deal, the Biden Burnie manifesto. And you know, where 271 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: are the Scoop Jackson's of the world. Where are the 272 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: moderate Democrats? Where are the sam Nuns? If we go 273 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: back to Georgia, maybe we can count one on Joe Manchin, 274 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Christian Cinema. Henry Quaire, who just won the primary in 275 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: Texas is the only pro life Democrat in the House. Wow, 276 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: what happens to that party? That was never the case. No, 277 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: you used to be historically that they were about split equally. 278 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: Because of course, in the old days, if you were 279 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: an Irish or Italian Catholic, the odds were you were 280 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: a Democrat right by the way, most of them would 281 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: vote to have an abortion, you know, up until the 282 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: moment of birth, and force you to pay for it 283 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: with tax money. Yeah, yeah, I think what happened. And 284 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: I lived through a part of this. People forget. But 285 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: when I first got elected, I was the only Republican 286 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: from Georgia. The entire rest of the delegation were Democrats, 287 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: but with the exception of Andy Young, they were all 288 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: very conservative Democrats. They represented the last stand of an 289 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: old order, and gradually some were replaced by Republicans. And 290 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: I remember one time one of them came to see me, 291 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: solid guy, not a big fighter, but a guy who 292 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: represented his district very accurately, and we were sitting on 293 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: a chair near the background. He said to me, I'm 294 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: not ever going to go to the Democratic Caucus. And 295 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: I said what he said. They are putting so much 296 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: pressure on us to vote against Reagan, and I won't 297 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: do it. And I don't feel like having these people 298 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: yell at me. And I remember Zel, great governor and 299 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: senator from Georgia, Zelle called me one day and said, 300 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: would you come over and have breakfast? I said sure. 301 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: I'd known Zell since nineteen sixty four, when I was 302 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: a student who dropped out of Emory to run a 303 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: congressional campaign, and he was a young state senator in 304 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: a Democratic primary against the dean of the delegation. By 305 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: the way, we did a book signing once together at 306 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: a car dealership in Georgia in Atlanta. I think we 307 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: started at about five at night and we didn't finish 308 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: until three or four in the morning, I mean. And 309 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: we did it as he stood the whole time. It 310 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: didn't move. You were popular, But he was amazingly popular. 311 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: People loved him, and he wrote a great book about 312 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: what he learned in the Marine Corps. So Zelle has 313 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: me come over and I said, what are you doing. 314 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: He said, I want to apologize to you. And I said, 315 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: what do you mean. He said, all those years you 316 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: would come home and you would say how bad the 317 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: Democratic Caucus was, and I said, oh, nuts, just being 318 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: a partisan. He said, these people are so sick that 319 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm not ever again going to go to a caucus meeting. 320 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: And then after that he endorsed George W. Bush for reelection. 321 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: But he said they are so cynical and so left 322 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: wing that I have no place in that he said, 323 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: I'm not going to switch parties because I've been a 324 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: Democrat my whole life, but I will just tell you 325 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: I will never get in caucus with them. As a 326 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: side note, I campaigned wegin a big plane we chartered 327 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: and there were a whole bunch of us on it. 328 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: Bill Bennett was on it, Ali North was on it, 329 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: Zell was on it. J. C. Wats was on it. 330 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: And we campaigned in Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio and Zelle 331 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: was on that flight, and Zell spoke at every event. 332 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: He was tri But I think my only point being 333 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: that part of the reason I felt compelled to write 334 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: Defeating big Government Socialism as I've watched them over about 335 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: a forty year period, step by step take over their party. 336 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: And because it's a religious cult, and I agree with you, 337 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: they can't have any opposition. So if you don't buy 338 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: into the cult, they have to destroy you. And you 339 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: see that in terms of the way they deal with 340 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: businesses and the way they deal with college professors. Well, 341 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: the same thing is true in the Congress. If you 342 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: don't go along with them, your life is going to 343 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: be miserable. Same things true in the executive branch. I mean, 344 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: I think that people don't realize that this is a 345 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: great challenge for us if we win again in twenty 346 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: twenty four. We have to think through you know, Lincoln 347 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: talked about government of the people, by the people, and 348 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: for the people. What we get in Washington today is 349 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: government by left wing bureaucrats for left wing bureaucrats in 350 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: terms of dominating the people. And it's really a profoundly 351 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: sick system. Let me ask you this, then, Historically Americans 352 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: reject these policies. What they used to hide and hope 353 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: that the courts might do for them, arguments they never 354 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: win at the ballot box that would get them elected, 355 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: or things that they could never pass led to slatively 356 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: and they would try and rely on the courts and 357 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: judicial activism. Now we have them openly advocating things that 358 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: they never said before. This is not the old Democratic Party. 359 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: And I guess my question is, you know Americans have 360 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: always rejected it, and why do you think there's some 361 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: momentum for it at all at this point or at 362 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: least leading into Biden that was momentum for it. Well, 363 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean by the work we have done it, as 364 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, because you've talked about it on your shows. 365 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: We did this paper on Restoring the America that works 366 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: with a New American Majority, which is available at Inglish 367 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: three sixty. One of the keys to that was we 368 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: looked at a lot of these social issues and overwhelmingly 369 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: you end up with about a fifteen to twenty percent minority. 370 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: But they're very well organized, they're very militant. Partly it 371 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: goes back to your point about being a religious cult. 372 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: They're the people who dominate by intensity and ferocity because 373 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: they're a majority, but because they're so miserable and so nasty. 374 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Imagine AOC getting in your face all day every day, 375 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: or Elizabeth Warren. These are just nasty people, and we 376 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: don't produce enough people. I had a reputation, as you know, 377 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: for being willing to fight them, which they thought was horrifying. 378 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: But I was willing to stand toe to toe as 379 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: you are. I mean at your show every single night, 380 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: in your radio show, every day. You stand up to 381 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: the left in a way that very few people do. 382 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: And I do think that the systems begin to break down, 383 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: both because the performance is so bad that people feel 384 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: it in their lives. I always tell people every Republican 385 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: candidate this fall, should campaign in black and Latino neighborhoods, 386 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: and should campaign specifically at gas stations and grocery stores, 387 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: because that's where people are going to say, I can't 388 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: afford this. But the other part of it is they've 389 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: been very smart. Where Republicans have focused on creating businesses 390 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: and leading completely lives and defending the country overseas, they've 391 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: focused on acquiring power. I mean, if you look at 392 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: the teachers Union as a mechanism for power, not a 393 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: mechanism for education, and you look at a place like Baltimore, 394 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: which has one of the worst records of failing to 395 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: teach children in the entire country, but it has a 396 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: great record of writing a check every month to the teacher. 397 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: So from the teachers Union standpoint, the fact that the 398 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: kids fail, that the neighborhoods are terrible, that they have 399 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: no future, that's unfortunate. But at least all the members 400 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: of the union got paid, and then they take part 401 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: of that money. And they are the largest single force 402 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party today, and they're a force for 403 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: hard left to anti American attitudes. You know, as we 404 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: now approach November, and I look at this and I've 405 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: said it many times. Maybe I say it too often. 406 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: Every election season it's a tipping point or an inflection 407 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: point for the country. But of all the issues that 408 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: we face, eighty seven percent of Americans are concerned about inflation. 409 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: Eighty three percent are concerned about election integrity, violent crime. 410 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: You mentioned schools, illegal immigration, rising gas prices, and I 411 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: guess the question is, you know, I think the people 412 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: now see it. But then you worry about how we 413 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: take their anger, their fear, their anxiety and everything in 414 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: between and mobilize that into a movement that in overwhelming 415 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 1: numbers people say enough is enough. Because I can't predict 416 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: with any certainty, it looks like we're going to have 417 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: a way of election year. I can't predict with certainty 418 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: that will win the House and centate. I don't think 419 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: anybody can. First of all, I always tell people, no 420 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: matter what the polls say, tell me the first couple 421 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: of precincts that come in, because the polls don't always capture, 422 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: you know. And the special election in Texas, the week 423 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: where we elected the first Mexican born Latina who had 424 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: come here legally, who is a great advocate for controlling 425 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: the border, is married to a Border Patrol and the 426 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: terrific person. In her special election, there was a county 427 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: that swung thirty eight percent from where it had been 428 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: two years ago. This is Congresswoman Elect Flores in the 429 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: thirty fourth district of Texas. Yeah, and she literally had 430 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: a county that swung thirty eight percent. You apply that 431 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: nationally and you would have the biggest disaster for the 432 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: Democratic Party since eighteen ninety four. I don't think that'll happen, 433 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: but I do think they could have the biggest disaster 434 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: since nineteen twenty, which should be pretty amazing. But what's happening, 435 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: I think is that you've got to look at who's 436 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: going to turn out and who's not going to turn out. 437 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: The Republicans really have I think three simple steps from 438 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: now to a massive victory. Step one is it ain't working. 439 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, just keep hammering away. Not that it's liberal conservative, 440 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: it's not working. Then you can tell us not working 441 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: because it's not working in your life. Step two is 442 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: we know how to make it work. Ronald Reagan made 443 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: it work. Donald Trump made it work. You want to 444 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: look at the inflation rate, You want to look at 445 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: locking up prisoners who are dangerous. You want to look 446 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: at if that guy in Los Angeles have been locked 447 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: up as they should have been, two policemen would be 448 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: alive today and their families would have their fathers. So 449 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: you can say, one, it's not working. Two we actually 450 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: know how to make it work. And that's part of 451 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: why I wrote Defeating Biggerment Socialism was to say, not 452 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: only are they wrong, but here's the right way to 453 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: do it. And then three, I think you can spend 454 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: September and October simply saying we can do better. If 455 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: you don't want to do better. If you think this 456 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: is fine, vote Democrat. But if you want to do better, 457 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: the only practical way to do that in twenty twenty 458 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: two is to vote Republican. I think if we do 459 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: that and don't get sucked into trivial shoes or minor 460 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: issues or whatever the news media was to do to 461 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: get us off message, we're gonna win for you and me. 462 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: I may not be quite as exciting as the night 463 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: you hosted when we took control of the House, which 464 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: was a forty year moment, but I think election Night's 465 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. I think it would be really, 466 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: really good, And that was a special night I was 467 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: the MC who was at the Cobb Galleria. I did 468 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: see you earlier in the day, and I said, how 469 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: certain are you that you're going to take back control 470 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: of the House for the first time in forty years? 471 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: And you were as competent as anybody I've ever met. 472 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: These are extraordinary times. And if you want to compare 473 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: and contrast or talk about a choice election, this is 474 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: it on steroids. And I guess maybe that the simple 475 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: and obvious question is you talk about a new American majority, 476 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: what is this American majority about? And how do you 477 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: translate that American majority into victory in twenty twenty two, 478 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and beyond. I think it's very important 479 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: to start by talking about a new American majority, not 480 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: a new Republican majority. You know, Reagan always said to 481 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: my fellow Republicans and those independents and Democrats who share 482 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: our vous, he never talked only to Republicans. I've started 483 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: saying we're not going to have a red wave. We're 484 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: going to have a red, white, and blue wave. Because 485 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: when you get eighty seven percent of the country saying 486 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: they want to restore the America, the works, which tells 487 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: you they think it ain't working right now. Nine out 488 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: of every ten Americans. For all practical purposes, that's a red, White, 489 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: and Blue movement. It's not a red movement. It also 490 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: means and we just saw this, by the way, in 491 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: the primaries recently in Virginia, where a Latina whose parents 492 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: had come from Ol Salvador, she had been very active 493 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: in police work in the military. She won the Republican primary. 494 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: She'll probably beat the Democrat in the general. And I 495 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: think in South Texas there are three Latina Republican candidates. 496 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: For example, if I were a traditional Democrat and I 497 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: saw the collapse of the Democratic Party in the Hispanic 498 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: community and the increasing erosion of the Democratic Party in 499 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: the Black community, and I realized, what's going to be 500 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: left is a IVY League graduate, white core group who 501 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: are crazy. I mean, that's going to be the heart 502 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: of the modern Democratic Party. And because they only talk 503 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: to themselves, they have no idea how far out of 504 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: touch they are the rest of the country. So from 505 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: my standpoint, there are a couple of steps here. One 506 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: is to have a big issues election and not get 507 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: drawn down into For example, Senator Warnock is an extraordinarily 508 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: good preacher if it was just down to personalities between 509 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: he and herschel Walker, Warnock might have a reasonable chance 510 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: to survival just because he can talk so well. On 511 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: the other hand, if Warnock becomes the Biden candidate, he's 512 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: going to drown Biden and George is a twenty eight percent. 513 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: And so the same thing is true across the whole country. 514 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: And my hope is that the Senate Committee will realize 515 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: that it should nationalize every Senate race into a clear choice. 516 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: You have Biden's candidate and you have the new American 517 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: Majority candidate. I want to stop you because what you say, 518 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: it's too an important year. You want to nationalize the 519 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: election at every level, on every level, which sounds a 520 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: lot like what was successful, what finally brought the Republican 521 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: Party out of the wilderness and you became speaker after 522 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: forty years of being in a minority. I mean, imagine 523 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: that four decades and you started with this program renewing 524 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: American civilization. It evolves into a contract with America and 525 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: Republicans and take back control of the House. So you're 526 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: talking now about a new American majority. And if you 527 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: can't explain what that specifically means, because I know you 528 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: too well. You're giving us a roadmap, but I want 529 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: to highlight the fact that it's a roadmap for people. 530 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, put in context just for 531 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: a second. You often very generously describe yourself as my 532 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: younger brother, and to show how much younger. In nineteen 533 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: seventy four I first started working with Ronald Reagan. In fact, 534 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: he taught me how he made speeches, which is a 535 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: technique I still use. And I campaigned with him in 536 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: seventy nine and eighty, and then of course I worked 537 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: with him for eight years while he was president. You 538 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: gotta tell us what the technique is. You can't keep 539 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: it just to yourself. Well, his technique was he had 540 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: four by six cards, and each card had an idea 541 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: on it. What happened was because I was running in 542 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: the middle of Watergate and the Georgia GP had nothing. 543 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: They were so grateful that I would run. They had 544 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: me take Governor Reagan back to the airport to catch 545 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: an airplane, and his plane was late. This was an 546 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: earlier and simpler time. He was flying commercial with one 547 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: California trooper, and so we're going to have like an 548 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: hour and a half in a vip room waiting for 549 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: his airplane, and after about five minutes, he got tired 550 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: of listening to me, and he said, would you like 551 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: to see how I give speeches? Not being an idiot, 552 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'd love to learn how he gives speeches. 553 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: So Reagan reaches into the bag he's carrying with him 554 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: and pulls out the stack held the other by rubber bands, 555 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: about seventy four by six cards. He said, age card 556 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: has an idea. And when I get somewhere and I'm 557 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: about to give a speech, I look at the audience 558 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: and figure out what they're interested in, and so I 559 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: take about twenty of the seventy cards. I then shuffle them. 560 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: And he said, because if I gave the same speech 561 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: every day, I would get bored giving it. The audience 562 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: would know that I was bored, and so the audience 563 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: would get bored. But since I don't know what the 564 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: next card is, I have to figure out how to 565 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: make a transition from whatever I'm talking about to the 566 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: next topic. So I have a lot of adrenaline just 567 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how am I going to do this. Well, 568 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: they sense in my body language that I'm into the speech, 569 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: so they're into the speech. And as you know, because 570 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: you've sat with me, I outline while I'm sitting there 571 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: over dinner. Wait a minute, no, no, no, you're not 572 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: going to do this justice. I've got to interrupt you. 573 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: So when I was a local radio host in Atlanta, 574 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: and I not only am seed the night you became speaker, 575 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: but I would see all these events that you would do, 576 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: and without fail, maybe five or ten minutes before I 577 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: usually would introduce you. You never had a pen with you. 578 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why you never had a pen. Somebody 579 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: should have you a pen. But you would always look 580 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: at me and say, give a pen, and I'm like, sure, 581 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: here's my pen. Again. I give you one every time 582 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: I see you. But you would even take a cloth napkin, 583 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: a cloth napkin, and I'd watch you and you would 584 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: go like this, and you'd write down an idea, and 585 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: then I'd watch again you'd write down another idea. Usually 586 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: I would count after there about five ideas. Five that 587 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: you would put down thoughts on a cloth napkin. Your 588 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: preparation for that speech was zero at that time in 589 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: my career. The thought of me even attempting that would 590 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: have been impossible. Now I've learned for the best and 591 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: I now can do that speech that way. But at 592 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: the time I wasn't capable of doing it. I would 593 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: sit there in fascination. I'm like, he didn't prepare a 594 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: word of this. I'm preparing my introduction. I got my notes, 595 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: I out of my finder. I'm like, you know, but 596 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: as you know now at the stage of your career, 597 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: I actually had a lifetime of preparation and a minute 598 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: of outline. But the point I was going to make 599 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: is the first Capital Steps event is nineteen eighty. The 600 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: first mention of a contract is Ronald Reagan on the 601 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: Capitol Steps. We won fourteen Senate seats that year in 602 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: a sweep that nobody expected, because we got all of 603 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: them on the steps with Reagan to validate that they 604 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: were serious. So I just took everything i'd ever learned 605 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: from Reagan, plus, thanks to our good friend Gay Gaines, 606 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: I'd gotten to know Margaret Thatcher pretty well, and I 607 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: took what Thatcher had done in Britain, and I took 608 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: what Reagan had done in America, wove them together, and 609 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: that became the contract campaign. So I would say a 610 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: couple of simple things This is part of why I 611 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: wrote this new book on defeating big government socialism. One. 612 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: We have to make this an election about not working. 613 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: That everything they touched doesn't work. The schools don't work, 614 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: the law enforcement doesn't work, the border doesn't work, the 615 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: economy doesn't work. And they're trying to destroy places like 616 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: West Point by insisting on racist education and sexually bizarre 617 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: education in ways that are just totally destructive of national defense. 618 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: So part one is it ain't working. Part two is 619 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: we can prove we know how to stop inflation. Reagan 620 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 1: stopped it, Trump stopped it. We know how to create jobs, 621 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: Reagan created them, Trump created them. We know how to 622 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: control the border. Both Reagan and Trump got the border 623 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: under control. So what we're offering you is a chance 624 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: to have a future that actually works based on principles 625 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: that work. And then the challenge for the Republicans, unlike 626 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: what happened after twenty ten, which frankly led to the 627 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: rise of Trump, is they've got to take seriously when 628 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: they win this fall, and they've got to from day 629 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: one go nosed those with Biden and begin to fundamentally 630 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: change the government, even while Biden as president and They've 631 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: got to do it in a way that starts with 632 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: the American people. I recently run across this wonderful phrase 633 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln said, with public sentiment, anything is possible. Without 634 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: public sentiment, nothing is possible. So Republicans have to learn 635 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: how do we operate so that the American people, that 636 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: eighty seven percent that wants to restore in America the 637 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: works stick with us. Because if that happens, we will 638 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: then win a crushing victory in twenty four. We will 639 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: then have a transition like reaganhead in one, and by 640 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: twenty six we will have ended the Roosevelt era majority 641 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: after almost a century. But that takes really thoughtful learning, planning, 642 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: practicing doesn't happen overnight. As you know, it's like people 643 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: who think they can do talk radio because they can 644 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: talk I have no idea what it's really like to 645 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: do it and to be successful. It's a little harder 646 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: than people think. You've done it. So you know, you 647 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: know I'm listening to you, and we've been friends all 648 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: these many years. It's almost like you have consolidated a 649 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: lifetime of knowledge, study and real life experience, and you're 650 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: laying out a roadmap that we can save the country 651 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: most importantly and lead to victory, which is the title 652 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: of your book, Defeating big government, Socialism, Saving America's Future. 653 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,959 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you could have written this book 654 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. I couldn't have I don't know ten 655 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: years ago. You're right, this is the culmination of a 656 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: lifetime of learning and doing and also of reacting to 657 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: what's happened. I mean, twenty years ago, you didn't have 658 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: the left as insane as it is now. Twenty years ago, 659 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: you didn't have a Republican Party as verse as it 660 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: is now. We're a much broader party than we were 661 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, and we attract many people that we 662 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: would not have attracted twenty years ago. Right. You know, 663 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: you see the polls and you talk about a new 664 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: American majority. You don't say a Republican majority, as you 665 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: pointed out, but you look at all the polls. Donald 666 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: Trump was right at the precipice. I felt, prior to 667 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: the pandemic where every demographic in America, African Americans, Hispanic Americans, 668 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Asian Americans, women in the workplace, a youth unemployment, African 669 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 1: American youth unemployment. We were setting record low after record 670 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: low after record low, and historically Democrats will say Republicans 671 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: are racist and sexist and misogynists and so on and 672 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: so forth. But when you look at what every American wants, 673 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: I do believe there's an opportunity to realign, if you will, 674 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: a new alliance that would include for the Republican movement 675 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: or the Republican Party, or the American majority, to use 676 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: your words, every demographic for no reason other than the 677 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: fact that these policies, when implemented, work and law and 678 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: order is critical a good education. Glenn Youngcan was on 679 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: my TV show recently. He reinstated school choice, you know, 680 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: issues like that, controlling the border's energy independence, lower taxes, 681 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: less government involvement, free and fair trade. I think most 682 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: people don't like to get ripped off, and there might 683 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: be a moment here where the left has gone so wacky, 684 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: so extreme that if Republicans show that their policies will 685 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: work for everybody, there's a window of opportunity here that 686 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: we can reconfigure the entire political landscape in the country. 687 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: I think you're onto something. You're way ahead of the 688 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: curve as usual on this. Well, look, I think there's 689 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: a very real possibility, which will frankly be difficult for 690 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans to deal with. It means that 691 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: if you're a country club Republican, you're all of a 692 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: sudden going to have all these people who don't belong 693 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: to the country club. We'll invite them. How about we 694 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: invite them? Yeah, I'm just saying the old order is 695 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: going to find itself a little uncomfortable because there's gonna 696 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: be so many different whether it's blue collar workers or 697 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: it's minorities. Listen, I think young people when they go 698 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: out and try to fill up their car or their truck, 699 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: they suddenly start thinking, maybe I'm not with those guys 700 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: because they're crazy. Oh, my son graduated from college. I'm 701 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: very aware of the shot. My son goes to me. 702 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, Dad, you said I can have unlimited Uber 703 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: eats an unlimited Uber and I said that's right. When 704 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: you were in college, I said, you still can, but 705 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: you have to pay for it. All of a sudden, 706 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: I didn't go ower, so well, that's right. Well, that's 707 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: like the famous story the first time you get a 708 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: paycheck and you realize it's actually smaller than your employers 709 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: said it would be, and the difference is government, and 710 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: as we used to say back of the seventies, that 711 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: a conservative was a liberal who had been mugged. Exactly. 712 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: You have been extraordinarily generous to take this level time. 713 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: I know how busy you are. I've watched your schedule. 714 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't know how you do three 715 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: hours of radio and an hour of television and do 716 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: it as well as you do it. Wait a minute, 717 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: you can't get away with that compliment. I learned something 718 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: from you post when you're speaker, and one time I 719 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: asked you, I mean you're up night and day. I 720 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: talked to you night and day, I mean, how do 721 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: you do it? And you actually said to me that 722 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: there are days you were so tired that the innermost 723 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: center of your brain it was a dull ache all 724 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: the time because you didn't sleep and you worked all 725 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: the time. If I have a good work ethic, part 726 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: of it, I learned from you and my mom, a 727 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: prison guard who worked sixteen hour shifts every day. Well, 728 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: you've learned it well. And the thing is that you 729 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: don't just work hard. You're really good at this. You 730 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: are clearly the pre eminent host in the country, and 731 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: your impact is in normal I can take because I 732 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: walk through airports and the number of people who say, oh, 733 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: I saw you on Sean or I heard you on Sean, 734 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: I mean you have a real reach. And the fact 735 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: that you would take this kind of time to do 736 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: a podcast with us, I'm really grateful to this. Anytime 737 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: you want to be honest, because what you're laying out 738 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 1: is too important, especially between now an election day. Well, 739 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: if you want to get a first print edition of 740 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 1: Defeating Big Government Socialism Saving America's Future, it's actually out now. 741 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: And I encourage everybody. If you love this country and 742 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: you want to learn how we can save this country, 743 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: this is the roadmap. And I got to tell you 744 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: it's an honor to be your friend. You have taught 745 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: me so much. I just learned from you every time 746 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: I talk to you, and I'm very blessed to have 747 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: this relationship with you. It's a great friendship as well 748 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: as a great partnership, and I'm grateful you would do this. 749 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. News World is produced by Gingrich 750 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: three sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is Guarncy Sloan. 751 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: Our producer is Rebecca Howell. Our researcher is Rachel Peterson. 752 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: The artwork for the show is Steve Penley, who's terrific. 753 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: And a special thanks to all the team at Gingridge 754 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: three sixty. If you've been enjoying Newsworld, I hope you 755 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: go to Apple Podcasts and rate us with five stars 756 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: and give us a review so others can learn what 757 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: it's all about and right now, listeners to news World, 758 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: you can sign up for news weekly columns at Gingrich 759 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: three sixty dot com slash newsletter. I'm Sean Hannity and 760 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: it's not my world, It's Newsworld.