1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Hi everybody, welcome to the Almost Famous OG podcast. This 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: is Trista and I am Solow Today. Bob Guiney, my 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: co host, who makes me laugh every week or every 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: other week or every other month or whatever schedule for on. 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: Bob is on a plane right now. I was just 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: texting with him. He is going to Louisville for his 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: annual visit to the Kentucky Derby. So wishing I was 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: there with him, although no, not really, because I'm in 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: Utah for a dance competition with Blakesley and it's like 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: the thrill of my life. Seeing my daughter dance is 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: just one of my very happy places. And the competition 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: here is crazy town. I just posted a story on 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: Instagram and told people that it is. It's it's like 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: where everyone that you see, the pros that are on 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars they are they come from here, 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 2: well most of them from a studio called Center Stage, 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: and so the competition here is really really incredible to watch. 19 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: It's just like being at a show. So I'm excited 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: to be in Utah. I wish that Bob was here 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: with me, but that's okay. Ive got this interview. I'm 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: excited to talk to Ed Swaderski. I believe that's how 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: you pronounced this last name. We've met before and haven't 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: talked in a long time, so I'm excited to catch up. 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: But he was on Jillian Harris' season, so Hannah, can 26 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: you bring him in please? And thank you? Hello? 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Ed? 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: Hey, how are things going. It's been a while, I 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: know years. I haven't seen you in lifetimes ago, I mean. 30 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Right, I feel like it was uh quite at your No, 31 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: we didn't go to your wedding. Were we were at 32 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Jason Mesnick's wedding? Right? Yes? Yes? 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: Okay? And then also did I come when you were 34 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: on Bachelor Pad? Was I a judge that season? Oh? 35 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: You know what? Did you? Okay? So I tried to 36 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: erase that from my mind. 37 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure. So Bachelor Pad I came and judged 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: a circusla thing in Vegas where people were climbing walls. 39 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: That was. 40 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: That was the one I think before my season, okay. 41 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: And then I judged a dance competition at the end 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: of one season. I think it was dance. No, that 43 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 2: was it was at the Bachelor Mansion. Were you on 44 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: ten Lee season? Yes, okay, then that. 45 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: Was the sea I thought. 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: Okay, right, it wasn't it like a leg? Did you 47 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: have to do it? 48 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Pretty pretty intoxicated the entire time, So, like you know, 49 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Elvis Presley could have been there and I wouldn't have 50 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: remembered it. 51 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you were Okay, So is that like 52 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: a thing? Is this something that you've come to terms with? 53 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: Are you? Are you? 54 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it was it is? It is what 55 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: it was. You know, it was vacation for me, you know, 56 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: and okay, yes, the producers didn't know it, but I 57 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: was there. I was there for vacation. 58 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: And so you didn't talk about that, like you when 59 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: you would go do interviews and we're talking I'm talking 60 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: Bachelorette and Bachelor Pad. When you would go do interviews, 61 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: was your was your stick? Was your line that you 62 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: were there for love? But were you really just there 63 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: for vacation? Is that what you're telling me? 64 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean I was sort of there for but like 65 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: how much fun can you have with a bunch of dudes, 66 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, in a barn? Right? Like it depends on 67 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: what I A Yeah, true, it's true nowadays. But I 68 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: was there for you know, for kind of have fun. 69 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: And I didn't really I didn't really know much about 70 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: the show at the time. I mean, I knew the concept, 71 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: I just I didn't I wasn't like a regular watcher, 72 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: so I didn't really know what what I was in for. 73 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 2: So why did you apply for the show? Like going 74 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: back to very beginning, had you you had never seen 75 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: it before? And did you get nominated or something? 76 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: You know what? I O Believer And I was walking 77 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: down the street in Chicago, and you know, they have 78 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: these guys on the streets that do recruiting. They've got 79 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: their clipboards, and I was outside for me, I was 80 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: at a meeting when I was outside on the phone 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: on a call, and this dude walks up to me 82 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: with a clipboard, you know. And I had a suit on, 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: so I probably looked like I was legit, you know, 84 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: and and yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, I worked 85 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: for a big software company at the time, so I 86 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: kind of looked at him, like, you know, what do 87 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: you want to dude, I'm on the phone, and he 88 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: was like, I'm I'm recruiting for for a TV show 89 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: on ABC, you know my mind. I'm like, uh, I'm like, well, 90 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: is it for the bold and the beautiful, because I 91 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: don't think I I don't think I want any part 92 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: of it, dude. 93 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: Not it. And then he convinced you. 94 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Well, it was over the course of a few months. 95 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't really into it, and I didn't 96 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: I didn't really know much about Jillian until you know, 97 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: I looked her up and the first thing that came 98 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: up was, you know, a bunch of YouTube videos with 99 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: with her just melting down, you know, with Jason, and 100 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, this is chick. Looks like a nutcase, 101 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: you know. So I I that wasn't the reason why 102 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: I was. I was hesitant, but I just I think 103 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: over the course of a couple of months, you know, 104 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I had my job right, and I knew that I 105 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: really should be away for that long. Ultimately, I had 106 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: consensus with my boss that, you know, that I could 107 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: do it, and I pulled it off. I didn't make 108 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: the decision until like the day before I left, actually, 109 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know if they were just like 110 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: light on guys in Chicago, because they kept bugging me, 111 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, there's a million people here 112 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: you could probably be chasing out for this so. 113 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: Well, they clearly saw something in you, because so did Jillian, 114 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: and she ended up you know, you guys ended up 115 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: getting engaged. But tell me remind everyone about what happened 116 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: like mid season with you. 117 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I left, Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. That's 118 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: the thing about it, like that I was just like 119 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: a normal dude, you know, and I just yeah, I 120 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: was still working, you know, I was able to continue 121 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: working and kind of dating while I was on a 122 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: dating show. 123 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: And so you know, you were working while you were 124 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: on the show, like when you were in La. 125 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they this was you know, this was like the 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: one of the first reasons where I think they allowed 127 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: people that because that was one of the terms that 128 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I agreed on when I did the show. I'm like, look, 129 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I can't gone for like three months. You know. I 130 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: got to have access to my my laptop, my phone, 131 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, and and but it was very scarce, you know, 132 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: periodically I could check stuff, and when I did get 133 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: on it, I was just so overwhelmed with with chunk. 134 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, I can't keep doing this. But 135 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: halfway through the season, you know, it was I think 136 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: it was a blend of just like me feeling feeling 137 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 1: like I was neglecting obviously neglecting some some some key 138 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: stuff at work and not. I don't know, I just 139 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: wasn't like feeling the environment with all these these guys 140 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of them and I'm not going to 141 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: disparage any of them, but they just I couldn't like, 142 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't see eye to eye with a lot of 143 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: the guys. There were a few guys that were great, 144 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: but I was just I was just kind of a 145 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: normal dude. I didn't really want to be and in 146 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: entertainment like that was never my thing. I just thought 147 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: it would be cool to experience it, you know. And 148 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: so so I just said, look like, I can't be 149 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: here and I I gotta leave, you know, And I 150 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: ended up going home. You know, it turns out that 151 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: like work, I probably could have been gone for two 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: more months. You know. It was you know, it was 153 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: like an overreaction that you know, you just get kind 154 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: of anxiety, right and and yeah, so I was at 155 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: home for a couple of weeks. Producers were kept in 156 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: touch with me, and they finally just said, look like, 157 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: do you have any you know, any aspiration to come 158 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: back and and be on the show. Because we think 159 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: that Jillian really likes you, and and we absolutely, like 160 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: I felt like we had the best chemistry, you know, 161 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: like we were just kind of both grounded people. I guess, 162 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, we we both you know, just we had 163 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: we had the best fit, I think. And I just said, look, yeah, 164 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: and I did have ex girlfriends that you know, were 165 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: reaching out to me because they knew that I was 166 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: on the show, and of course, like I talked to them, 167 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: but I didn't have anything at home that I was 168 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: really missing, and so I decided to to you know, 169 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: take a chance and go back. And you know, everybody 170 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: was cool with with work and everything. 171 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, So it's funny because I am, you know, 172 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: as you know, obviously one of the first, if not 173 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: the first, you are, so well yeah, yes, but so 174 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: well I wasn't the first bachelor. Oh well I was 175 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: the first bachelorette, but not the first show anyway. So 176 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: so when someone says like, uh, you know, well I 177 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: had girlfriends and I was talking to girlfriends, I'm like, 178 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 2: but is that cool? Like to me, obviously things have changed. 179 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: You're in a very happy marriage, and I want to 180 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: talk about that soon. At least I assume you're in 181 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: a happy marriage and your dad and you know, life 182 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: has changed and life has evolved, and I truly believe 183 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: that everything happens for a reason, and you're you're meant 184 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: to be where you are now. But like to me, 185 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, the kind of well they call 186 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: me the fairy Godmother. So if someone is like, well, 187 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: isn't there for the right reasons or wasn't there for 188 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: the right reasons or you know, had girlfriends on the side, 189 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, naughty you, So did you? Did you? Really? 190 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: You had girlfriends? And when you went back to Chicago 191 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: were you talking to people or were you just there for. 192 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: Work in your mid twenties? Like how do you find 193 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: girlfriend living in downtown Chicago? Mean? Yeah, yeah, we dated constantly, right, 194 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: nobody that I was talking to would I consider like 195 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: an actual girlfriend? 196 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: Like we weren't, Yeah, got it? You had people you 197 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: were talking to? 198 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you know, And so I was certainly there. 199 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have gone there if I knew that there 200 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: wasn't really a chance, you know, with with it with 201 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: a real relationship. 202 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 203 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: When I got there, though, I realized that, like the 204 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: amount of time it's nearly impossible to formally form a 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: relationship there in that window, right, like, and we learned. 206 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: Probably almost impossible, yes. 207 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: Twenty five percent of each other while we're there. Afterward, 208 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, the next year or two years and we 209 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: were together, that's when you learn about you know, moving 210 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: in and in like you know, life hits you and 211 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: then you. 212 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: Learn anything else, right, Yeah, of course, So how did 213 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: that all happen? Obviously you and Julian did it work out? 214 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: She's happily married, well, happily in a relationship you're I 215 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: assume happily married. When you guys were together, what all 216 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: happened there? Have you talked to her? You know, I 217 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: know that how long did it? How long did it last? 218 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: And what together? 219 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: What do you feel like happened at the end we 220 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: were there? 221 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: Let's see, So we were together for for a good 222 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: two years after the show. 223 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: That's significant in batchel her Land. 224 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean we had a lot of tabloid 225 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: crap too that that sucked, but we you know, we 226 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: got through it. And she moved to Chicago right away, 227 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, and and we would go up to to 228 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: Vancouver and and you know, we want to visit her 229 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: family way up in northern think uh northern yeah, yeah, 230 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: near Colonna and even even Peace River way up there. 231 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: So it's like parallel to Alaska. 232 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. 233 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I mean we we got through all like 234 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: the media stuff, you know, and and but it was 235 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: just like I think that the day to day life 236 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: stuff that really like, like I said, getting to know 237 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: the the rest of the spectrum of that person. And yeah, 238 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: Julian's great. It was just you know, we just weren't 239 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: and I was kind of still in like a not 240 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: get serious mode too in my life, and I still 241 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: liked working a lot, and so but she moved here 242 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: and like, you know, we we had a blast when 243 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: she lived here. Like we we did all kinds of 244 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: fun stuff. We we you know, like I said, traveled 245 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: up to Canada a lot, and went and visited my 246 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: family a lot. We had a real real relationship. Yeah, 247 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: and I think it just over time, you just you know, 248 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: like any relationship, you just figure out that probably not 249 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: the best. I think the media sensationalized like our separation, 250 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: but it wasn't really that it wasn't that exciting like 251 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: it was you know, it was like you know, Ed's 252 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: cheating or whatever. And but that that wasn't the case. 253 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there were many many embellished stories that like 254 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: you just and you know this more than anybody, I'm 255 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: sure that, like you can't control a story once it's 256 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: out there, like it's completely out of your hands, and 257 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: if you try to defend something, it looks even worse. 258 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeaheah. 259 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: So I got a really quick you know, one O 260 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: one on how to handle the media, and I just said, 261 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: look like we're not going to play along with this, 262 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: like we're breaking up. You know, I'm sorry, it's not 263 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: one fun. But and then we still kept in touch 264 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: for years, you know after Yeah, yeah, it wasn't until 265 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: like when I really started dating my wife for real, 266 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, and and I just obviously we we we 267 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: didn't keep in touch more. And then she was in 268 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: her Yeah of course. 269 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: So tell me about your your your wife, your daughter, 270 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: how life is now. 271 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: It's awesome, I am. I moved to the burbs, uh, doing. 272 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: A lot of home in Chicago still, right, Yeah, yeah. 273 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: A lot of mulch lately. That's super, super exciting. So yeah, 274 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean we were let's see s our eighth year 275 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: anniversary coming up here in Happy anniversary, early Thanks it's 276 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: going to be in July. Excited for that. My daughter 277 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: is going to be three and uh a couple of weeks. 278 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: Do you have a picture of her where? Yeah, I 279 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: want to see. Her name is Olive. I think that 280 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: is so cute. 281 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: Dancing beauty doing some wild dancing here. 282 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That brings me back like I used 283 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: to so when I had Max was probably that age 284 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: and Blakesley, my daughter, would be like nursing. So I 285 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: would lay in my bed, turn on the television to 286 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: so you think you could dance or Dancing with the 287 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: Stars and or maybe not, Yeah, Dancing with the Stars 288 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: because I had been on it first season went before 289 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: they were born. So I would just I would put 290 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: it on the television and he would just dance along 291 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: to the TV. Oh that brings back such happy memory. 292 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, your little little buggers are they're getting up there? 293 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: They're not so little. Yeah. Max is five ten and 294 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: I know, yeah he's six to two, but he's way 295 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: taller than me. Now he's going to be a sophomore 296 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: in high school next year and Blakesley will be a freshman. 297 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 298 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy Colorado. Yeah, we are, we are, We're 299 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: We're actually moving though. I just told everyone last week 300 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: the last or the last podcast, we are moving to Denver. 301 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: Ryan is a Denver firefighter now. He worked for Vail 302 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: for seventeen years and he's been working for Denver for 303 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: like three and he's been commuting two hours back and 304 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: forth whenever he worked. So we thought it was time 305 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: to make the change. We're going to be closer to family. 306 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: We're excited for their new school and the opportunities for everybody. 307 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: So anyway, that's what we are. But yeah, I love 308 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: hearing and I hear your wife is Is she a 309 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: co host or an anchor or whatever for Good Day Chicago? 310 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: She was for four or five years. Now she does 311 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: the evening she's an evening anchor for the Local. 312 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: Local amazing for for ABC Local thought, okay, got it. 313 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's been with them for like twelve years or 314 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: something like that. 315 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: That is awesome. I love it. I did. I I 316 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: co hosted Good Day Live and Good Day La a Bunch, 317 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: and I just always loved the vibe there. I assume 318 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: Good Day Chicago was kind of similar. 319 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: Very similar. Yeah, yeah, she liked it too, but you know, 320 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: the evening spots are a little more sought after, and like, yeah, 321 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: if you're if you're really into the industry, you know, 322 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: like that these are it's a it's a great stepping stone. 323 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: But she's really into like she wants to be a 324 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, an evening acre possibly even at a network. 325 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: Oh amazing. Would you stay in Chicago or would you 326 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: guys consider leaving? 327 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. 328 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, is your family there, they're 329 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: in Michigan, Okay. 330 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and her family's Illinois, so we want to stay 331 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: in the area for sure. But yeah, for now, we're 332 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: pretty happy with everything. 333 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: That is awesome. And how did you guys meet because 334 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: obviously you both have a little public I pieces there. 335 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: Did you guys meet through like an event or blind date? 336 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 2: Or how'd you meet? 337 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: Evehn? Cornier than that? Trista, I was like at home 338 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: on the couch one day. It was like a holiday 339 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: or something, and I put on the local news and 340 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: I saw this girl doing the news and I'm like, 341 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: because you know, you get to know a lot of 342 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: the local media people and like the events, charity stuff, 343 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: and and I didn't recognize her, like, oh is this 344 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: you know? And so I reached out to her I 345 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: actually tweeted her and did, yes. 346 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that's amazing. 347 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: Well, I figured, like why not, you know, I mean 348 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: totally I didn't think she'd respond. 349 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: Well, you did go on a reality show on National 350 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: to le Vision, so it kind of is in the 351 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: category ballpark is yeah. 352 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: And so yeah, and I think she was gonna respond 353 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: to me, and I think I like started stalking her, 354 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: like on Instagram. I was like, hey, it's I'm over here, 355 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: over here, and I don't know why she agreed to 356 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: go to so she did the morning news and so 357 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: like her happy hour is like lunchtime. Right, She's done, right, 358 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: so she's like, let's let's go to lunch, like lunch, 359 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: like what is this a business? Business meetings? But then 360 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, I realized, like, okay, so she's like pounding 361 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: wine at our lunch and I'm like, wow, this chick 362 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: is she's getting after it. But it was it was 363 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: actually like okay for a first date. But you know, 364 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: we decided to go another day. We did an actual 365 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: evening dinner. 366 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: Okay, got it. She could stay up. 367 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she could stay up, and we had a lot 368 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: more fun and but you know, it was pretty typical, 369 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean, other than like the tweeting thing. Our relationship 370 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: was pretty standard. 371 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I got it, that's it. I love it. No, 372 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: So so you guys met through that and you actually 373 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: are you in marketing now? 374 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: I do enterprise sales for a big, big software company. 375 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: Oh, you're still in software sales. Okay, got it. Yeah, 376 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: Because I was going to say I thought you were 377 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: in marketing, and I was going to say you moved 378 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: from software sales went through the show. I didn't know 379 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: if like the show had any any impact on the change. 380 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: But if you're still in the same. 381 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: Player, you're right. Actually, so I mean I kind of 382 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: really yeah, I've kind of gone back and forth. I 383 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: mean I put it in the same category of sales 384 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: and marketing. Like I don't do marketing. I sold marketing tools. 385 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, so similar. But but I did, like, 386 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: we wrote this book about Pinterest a while back, and 387 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: I think like we did. Did we do an event 388 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: at at in Chicago at Rocket or something? 389 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, that is the last time I 390 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: saw you. It was for shop the shop drop drop 391 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: off drop off? 392 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: Was that what it called one of those like cycle clothing? 393 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: You're right, it was me and Molly Mesnik and which 394 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: is so crazy because Julian was on Jason season with 395 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: Molly and Molly and I were hanging out with you 396 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: in Chicago. 397 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: It was it's so weird. 398 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: That is so crazy. But yes, you're right, Oh my gosh, okay. 399 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: And so you were working with with Rocket, like you 400 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: helped them with market or something. I was. 401 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: I launched my book and we hosted we hosted a 402 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: party at Rocket and and uh and so I, you know, 403 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: Billy just preash out for a couple of other events 404 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: and uh, that's that's where we intersected. But but yeah, 405 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I I've always kind of been in technology sale, 406 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: so it even got it for my entire career. Really, 407 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: I never got into like any like regular media stuff 408 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: where I was like paid, you know, just uh huh. 409 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: Well I don't think it was. It wasn't really a 410 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: thing back then. Yeah, you know, I mean, I know, 411 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: I did a lot of like spokesperson the things. You know, 412 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: I was a spokesperson. They call it actually a spokesperson. 413 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: And now I feel like the term has changed to influencer. 414 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: Even if you're doing a satellite media tour or you're 415 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: just posting stuff on social I feel like it has 416 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: definitely evolved, but but I don't. It wasn't as big 417 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: of a thing back then. It wasn't, I mean because 418 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: social media wasn't as relevant or pertinent or you know, popular, 419 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: and and I wanted to see if you uh, you know, 420 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: at that event, obviously we were getting recognized, but do 421 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: you get recognized still? And I know that was a 422 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: long time ago. I mean that had to be ten years. 423 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: Ago that it was like it was like twelve I think. 424 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Or yeah when we saw each other. Yeah, no, no, 425 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: nowhere near, you know. And like I don't try to 426 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: be right either, Like there is a lot I just 427 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want it, you know. Yeah, I 428 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: mean it's fun every once in a while. But like 429 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: my my wife gets way more you know, way more 430 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: notoriety than you know, for years, Like she's she's she's 431 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: more recognizable than I am. I think if someone's like 432 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: a hardcore fan, they might you know, or like if 433 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: we're out and it's all you'd probably know this. But 434 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: anywhere there's alcohol in alve people get a little braver 435 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: with you know, approaching you and so. 436 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: Or travel, yes, yes, right, if you're ever in an airport, 437 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: I feel like being in an airport yeah, yeah, or 438 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: being in Texas, Texas. 439 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: The epicenter of the Bachelor. Yeah. 440 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 2: I swear if I'm in Texas, I'm like, I will 441 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: get recognized. 442 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: It's so true. 443 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you don't miss the show at all, Like 444 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: you don't miss being on television. You'd rather your wife 445 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: do it. 446 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like I'm getting old, and like, 447 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: I just I like being a dad, like I like you. 448 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: I love that. 449 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: I just like I just like being a normal dude, 450 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: you know. And even like, it was definitely fun and 451 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: I wish everyone could experience it because it's such a 452 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: cool thing to see, right how TV works kind of 453 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: see all the bs behind the behind the scenes and 454 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: how everything happens in reality TV is different from like 455 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: real TV but like a real production but in real TV, 456 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: like you know, like like real produced. 457 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: I totally yeah, I hear you. 458 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: But it's just, uh, it's cool kind of see all 459 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: the inner workings right of how it comes together. And 460 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: I agree the world even. 461 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: Like you guys, I went to Seattle. 462 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: That was it. You guys didn't go anywhere. 463 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: No, I went to Seattle. 464 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: What in the world, Why would you? 465 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 2: I know, seriously, they owe me some trips Seattle and 466 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: uh Cabo and New York and Vale, you know for 467 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: my hometown. But yeah, I always joke my fantasy suites 468 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: were in Seattle. Was Good's amazing. I love Seattle for 469 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: all those in Seattle. I love Seattle. It was great. 470 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: It was a wonderful place. But you know, would I 471 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: have treated the Maldives for Seattle? Yes, yes, I. 472 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 1: Would have taken that one. 473 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, No, I'm not bitter. I'm not bitter. 474 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: You can't tell you bitter? Can you traveled? Where did 475 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: you guys go on your season? 476 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: We went to We went all over. We started out 477 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: in Vancouver, which whistler I think. We went up to also. 478 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: Right and which was cool. 479 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: I've never been there before. I would consider that definitely international. 480 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: And then we went to uh Spain. We went to 481 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: uh Hawaii. You know, never been to Spain? Why is 482 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: my favorite place on Earth? So I was like, oh, love, it. 483 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: Was it your favorite place on Earth because you went there? 484 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: It was your favorite place on Earth before that? 485 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: It was my favorite place on Earth after I went there. 486 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, I just didn't have you been with 487 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: your wife, like, does she know this is your favorite 488 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: place on earth because of the Bachelorette and does she is? 489 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: She like, okay, but here's the thing, Like, we've discovered 490 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: so many other places, international places to you that I 491 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: would say that are very close. But when it really 492 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: comes down to it, like why, it's just amazing, Like 493 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's ours. 494 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like my husband would be like, 495 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: because I did go to Hawaii for the Bachelor, and 496 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: I feel like he would be like, well, this is 497 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: where you were with Alex, So I don't want to go, 498 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 499 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: That's right. I didn't realize they did that with you 500 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: that I didn't know that you were pulled from. 501 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: I was from the first season. 502 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: So you okay, so you traveled on a Bachelor, Well 503 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: just Towa. That was well. I would definitely be pissed 504 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: that if I were you, Like, what happened to the 505 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: budget here? 506 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: There was not one. 507 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: It's interested. We don't know if this is going to work. 508 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: So we're going to Cleveland, Ohio. 509 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah you're excited? Yeah, I mean any place. Honestly, I 510 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: feel like I'd love traveling, even if it's all over 511 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: the United States. I don't care like wherever it is. 512 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: I love to travel, but you know, it would have 513 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: been nice to go to Spain. So it's all good. 514 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: It's all good, it's all good. I would take my 515 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: relationship with my husband for almost twenty years in December 516 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: over a trip to the Maldives. It's fine, my life, 517 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: so it's all good. 518 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are you guys are like the best family. 519 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: Oh I had fun at Messick's wedding. We were at 520 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: the pool with your kids. Oh, everybody was just so fun. 521 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: Remember yeah, was that was where Sarah Bryce and Charlie 522 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: O'Connell there was that the wedding? 523 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: Or yeah, that is the actor guy right. 524 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Jerry, he's Jerry's brother brother. 525 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he was there and I don't know why 526 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: why was he? 527 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: Why was he? 528 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Yes? 529 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: Oh why was Jerry? No, Charlie was there because he 530 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: was a bachelor. 531 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah that's what. Yeah. I didn't follow no, sorry, yes, 532 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: but prior to it, right, I didn't follow it, so 533 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: I didn't really know. 534 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: Have you watched since No? I'm like, no, does your 535 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: wife watch a wife. 536 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: Watches a kid? I think she's a couple of seasons behind. 537 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: Did she watch it when you were on. 538 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: She didn't and she hasn't. 539 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: And she hasn't and she won't. 540 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't think she doesn't want to. It's just that 541 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: we're just busy and likes to go back through like 542 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: archives of old I mean, yes, she's married to me, 543 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: but there's nothing there that she was probably probably get 544 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: excited over, you know. 545 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get that. I just didn't know if 546 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: there was any curiosity. I feel like that is a 547 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: that is probably a majority of how people feel if 548 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: they met their significant other after the show. Obviously after 549 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: the show, if they met their significant other and their 550 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: significant other did not watch before, then they probably will 551 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: never won't want you to feel like that's like, that's normal. 552 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: But I wonder how much curiosity is there, you know, 553 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: if you want to call it up, if you can 554 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: even I don't even know if you can access it. 555 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: I think they may have sent us like DVDs, like 556 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: I have some archive of it. 557 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: Oh you have DVDs because I have VHS tapes. 558 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: Oh do you really? Yeah? Well, well I was in 559 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: low deaf too, so. 560 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: Oh way low deaf was me. I'm kind of like 561 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: glad for that because high definition scares me. Now, yes, yeah, 562 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 2: so all my wrinkles, yes, all my pores. I mean 563 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: you're seeing everything. Thank goodness for low definition. 564 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: Seriously. 565 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so future plans. Are you guys planning on expanding 566 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: your family? 567 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: We'd like to I mean, yeah, my wife is she 568 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: just turned forty forty one actually. 569 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: Now, oh she's a spring chicken. 570 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but like we had a hard time with 571 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: our first pregnancy. Just got it all kinds of I 572 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: U I y up the wise uh huh literally, but 573 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: like giving giving your shots, you know, every day, and 574 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: it's just like it's really hard on her. Yeah, and 575 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: so we would love to you. It's just like we 576 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: really want to go through that part of it. I 577 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: would love to have like, you know, two more kids probably, 578 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: but really. 579 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: You just don't know. 580 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: I would like to have one more just so she 581 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: as sibling, you know, because yes, that's how I felt. 582 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: I actually had a really hard pregnancy or a difficult 583 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: time getting pregnant as well, and we did iuis, but 584 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: not we started the IVF process and never had to 585 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: go through it because I ended up getting pregnant. But 586 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: what I will say is for the second and you're 587 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: you know, your daughter's three, so maybe this can still happen. 588 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: But we had a really hard time with Max, and 589 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: then after I stopped nursing, I got pregnant with Blakesley 590 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: like that, like it's pretty easy. Yeah, So you just 591 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: never know. And you know, you hear all these stories 592 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: about how people want a child, like are actively trying, 593 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: going to doctors, whatever, and the stress and the anxiety 594 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: around it not happening can take over for the natural 595 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: ability of your body to create, you know. And so 596 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: I feel like so many you hear these stories of 597 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: people who go on to like adopt and then they 598 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: get pregnant or right exactly. So you know, I feel 599 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: like probably a lot of it has to not in 600 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: your case specifically unnecessarily, but yeah, you just never know. 601 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: So who knows. I would love that for you. I 602 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: just I love that my kids were close when they 603 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: were younger, not so much right now, just because they 604 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: have totally different things. 605 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: So they're three years apart, though they're. 606 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: Twenty months apart, okay, but three years is I mean. 607 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: I know people who have like big chunks of time 608 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: in between the kids, and it's a great thing, you know. 609 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: I think there's pros and cons for everything, you know, 610 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: So you just never know. You just got to keep 611 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: trying if that's what you want. And I'm sure Olive 612 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: would love a sibling. 613 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: She would. She loves being around kids. I mean it's 614 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: weird because like we'll go to the playground and I 615 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: feel bad because I think these kids, you know, that 616 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: have gone through the pandemic, like they're just not conditioned 617 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: for like hanging out with other kids. And somehow she 618 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: she's very extroverted though, so she'll like walk up to the 619 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: kids and they look at her like she has three heads. 620 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: You know. Oh, I know, I feel bad. I'm like, oh, 621 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: you know she could. You can tell that she's kind 622 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: of sad because she's like, why don't don't they want 623 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: to play with me? And I'm like, I don't know, 624 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: it's nothing, that's no. 625 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: I love that she's extroverted and can do that because 626 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: my kids were not that way and I always wished 627 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: for that. That's great encourage that for sure. Yeah, okay, 628 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 2: I have to tell you. I was texting Bob. You know, 629 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: Bob is my we co host this together, right, yeah, 630 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: Bob Guinea. So I was texting him to see if 631 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: he was going to be here, and he said that 632 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: you guys, maybe share a birthday. 633 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: May May eighth, Uh not. 634 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: When's your birthday? 635 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: July twentieth birthday? 636 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: So he is wrong, not that birthday. I might have 637 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 2: multiple No, I don't know. Anyway, he was like, yeah, 638 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: I believe he and I share a birthday, and he 639 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 2: put although he's much younger and I and I said, 640 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: isn't everyone. 641 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: I love like you two are my hands down, Like 642 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you're the most thank you notable. But I 643 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: ran into him at the Kentucky Derby. 644 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: I know, I'm very jealous. I love the Derby and 645 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 2: he goes every You're like, this is his thing, so 646 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: he shouldn't be here. But I was like, yay, I 647 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: gotta laugh out of Bob Guinea, even if it was 648 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: on a text. 649 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: So he's down there now, he is. 650 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: He was on a plane to Louisville when I texted him, 651 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: and that's where. 652 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: I ran into him last, like three years old. 653 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 2: Okay, did you always used to go to Jerby? 654 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: No, first time going. And in fact, he was like 655 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: on the red carpet for some event, and I was 656 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: like getting chased down by the security trying to get 657 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: into like a red carpet party. And I'm like, Bob, 658 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: get me. 659 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: In, let me in please. 660 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: He's like, look at me, like, who are you? 661 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 662 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's we've never met, we never met in 663 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: person before that, but we knew God communicated, you know, 664 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, but he was like, I can't do it, dude, 665 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: You're not cool enough. 666 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: You're not cool enough. Oh, I'm totally going to tell him. 667 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: You totally let ed down. He didn't even want to 668 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: talk to you, so and you weren't on today. Well, well, 669 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: thank you so much for the chat. And I'm so 670 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: happy for your happiness and your relationship and your fatherhood. 671 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 2: I love girl. Dad's so fun. 672 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: She's the love of my life. 673 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 2: Oh that's the sweetest. 674 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: Tell tell Ryan and the kids that I. Uh, I 675 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: wish him well too. I haven't seen him in a 676 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: long time. Tell me, I said, I thank you. 677 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: Was Actually Ryan wasn't with me in Chicag Have you 678 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 2: ever met Ryan because he wasn't on Bachelor Pad? Maybe not? 679 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: Didn't he go to the wedding? 680 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: The wedding, Yes, you are right, he was. 681 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: That's how I know he was tall, because. 682 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 2: You're right, got it? Yes, that was such a fun wedding. Uh. Yes, 683 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 2: Well anyway, I thank you so much. I enjoyed our 684 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: chat and I'm so happy you're happy, Piness. Thanks for 685 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: coming on and allowing us to, you know, reflect back 686 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: to the days of old, the days old. 687 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: All right, We'll take care and good to see you too. 688 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks bye, ed bye, Thanks for listening. Everybody. This 689 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: is Trista and I. I just love this opportunity to 690 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: be able to talk to people who were part of 691 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: my past, part of my Bachelor Nation family. I love 692 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: all y'all. And if you guys would like for me 693 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: to me and Bob sorry he's not here today, if 694 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 2: you like, would like for us to bring anybody onto 695 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: the show, if you're missing someone, if you'd love to 696 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 2: hear what's going on in the life of someone who 697 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: was on the show a favorite of yours from back 698 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: in the OG days, We would love to hear from you. 699 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: You can go to the almost famous Instagram account and 700 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 2: send them a message, or you can DM me as 701 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: well or Bob. Feel free to do that. Uh, feel 702 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: free to let us know if you'd like for us 703 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: to do anything in particular on this podcast, because we 704 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: love doing it and yeah, we'd love your input. So 705 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 2: have a great day and thanks for listening.