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Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your man named G.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant, fully vaccinated and happy to be back outside

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Speaker 1: again in fact California. We're all open up again. It's great,

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Speaker 1: you know, summer, just in time for summer. It's wonderful. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We have another fun show for you. As always, we

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Speaker 1: continue our cavalcade of stars as we go through this

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Speaker 1: off season. So last week we had my tag leer.

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Speaker 1: I was excited to talk to him. Uh. This week

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Speaker 1: we've got one of the legends of the fantasy industry.

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Speaker 1: It is the one and only football die hard himself,

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Speaker 1: Mr Bob Harris. Bob always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: How are things in your part of the Southwest? Fully

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Speaker 1: vaccinated and free to roam around? I just don't go

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Speaker 1: s g A uh convention, the first one I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're board there and it went really well.

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Speaker 1: They had a good turnout and everyone had a great time. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it was nice to you know, see people in

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Speaker 1: human form looking forward hopefully to see you Encanton this summer.

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Speaker 1: That is the plan, of course, they'll me being the

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Speaker 1: procrastinator that I am. I haven't booked a single thing

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Speaker 1: yet because you know, that makes me feel that makes

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Speaker 1: saw some of the stuff from the f s g

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Speaker 1: A and your partner in Crime email was was nominated.

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Speaker 1: It was inducted into the Hall of him I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: say nominated. So congratulations to him. I know that's a huge,

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Speaker 1: a huge, huge honor. So yeah, it was great. It

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Speaker 1: was a great thing and great to see it happened.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, he's been an integral part of this

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Speaker 1: industry for so long, starting the magazines. This is a

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Speaker 1: pro forecast that we're doing you will be part of

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Speaker 1: and UH a great article in there by the way,

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Speaker 1: on the seventeen game season. But this will be the

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Speaker 1: thirty second straight addition to that magazine. We've added the

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Speaker 1: other titles. He you know, he he was the first

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Speaker 1: guy who create a high stakes league and event um

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Speaker 1: you can go aft you will find him behind the

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Speaker 1: first documented best ball draft UH in the industry. So

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Speaker 1: has been done a lot of things and one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I think, you know that's pretty special

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Speaker 1: about him is his interest in the history of the hobby.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was the impetus behind he and I

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Speaker 1: writing an article going back and studying up on Bill Winken,

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Speaker 1: ball Bag and Goppel back in the early sixties of

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Speaker 1: the dawn of the fantasy football. And he's been doing

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Speaker 1: a series on his website, Fantasy Nation, with of interviews

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Speaker 1: with with the pioneers of the industry, right, and so

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Speaker 1: he's done about thirty of those, and I think he

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Speaker 1: has about thirty more to go, So be ready for

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Speaker 1: him to haller at you. Wow, that's that's that is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Of course. I mean, you've got your own stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: You are the senior editor at Football Die Hards magazine, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I don't care what year it is.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Fantasy football magazine will never completely

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Speaker 1: die because I think when you go to a live

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Speaker 1: draft there's always at least one person that still has

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Speaker 1: an ink and paper copy of a magazine. It's I

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Speaker 1: I sort of compare it to Linus and his security blanket,

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Speaker 1: like you just kind of want one in your hand,

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Speaker 1: and so that will never die. And of course you're

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Speaker 1: doing the radio at Serious x M as well, so uh,

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Speaker 1: you've got a lot on your plate. I know you

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Speaker 1: you're the hardest working man and show business Bob. There

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Speaker 1: there's never a dull moment and uh and and and

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Speaker 1: is the least dull moments where when I get to

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Speaker 1: hang out with you on these podcasts any human form

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Speaker 1: on occasion. Sweet, that's awesome. All right, Well that stocks

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Speaker 1: as I'm getting guests on. One of the things I

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Speaker 1: remaining the best guy. But I mean he's led that

428
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 1: team in reception, so he's a guy I'm targeting. I'm

429
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 1: fine targeting a little later, you know. So I think

430
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 1: there's all these little mini tiers of of tight ends,

431
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, you can make the argument

432
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 1: that Kelsey and Waller are right there in those first

433
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 1: two rounds. I think people are maybe a little bit

434
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,919
Speaker 1: dial back more on George Kittle than they should be.

435
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 1: I get that health has been an issue. You know,

436
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 1: I try to be injury agnostic. Everybody can and we'll

437
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 1: get hurt at some point, and maybe everybody doesn't have

438
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 1: to at some point. So I don't know that, you know,

439
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of a Brandon Ayukai this year, and

440
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 1: so I've been trying not to throw all my eggs

441
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: in that basket to the to the degree I possible,

442
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: and and you know, just not for nothing. Brandon Iku

443
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,239
Speaker 1: is one of those guys where I throw a DP

444
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 1: out the window. I'm drafting I'm crazy earlier than everyone else,

445
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: so uh so, but I think once you get past

446
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: those times, you know, once you get outside Hockinson, I mean,

447
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm okay drafting Kyle Pitts. I think there's

448
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 1: a pretty clear path to workload there. He's a pretty

449
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 1: amazing player. I'm not gonna fear the fact that rookie

450
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: tight ends tend not to be a big deal. He's

451
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 1: a big deal, um, and so I'm okay getting him

452
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: where he's going if that's what happens. I'm also okay

453
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: just punting, all right, and I'm punting a lot, and

454
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm getting you know, or Smith Mike

455
00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 1: Zimmer's comments, notwithstanding I know what I really lives he

456
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 1: said there, you know, things are gonna change. I don't

457
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: think things are going to change. I think his role.

458
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 1: I think that means his receiving role remains unchanged. And

459
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: maybe we see Tyler Conker more as the in line blocker.

460
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: But I mean I'm not afraid of Mike Kasecki still.

461
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's a lot of guys I

462
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: can get later that I'm okay taking a chance on

463
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: and and even going way late and grabbing out of

464
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: Troutman or someone you know as a as a maybe

465
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: a tight end two with some upside I'm okay with

466
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: as well. Your your stated strategy is what my actual

467
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: reality strategy is, even though it's not what I say

468
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: out loud. Um, you know, out loud, I keep telling

469
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: people like, oh, I mean they're gonna pay up and

470
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: get one earlier. I'm gonna wait and get an upside

471
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: guy late, when in reality, uh, you know, I I

472
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: end up with you know, the the cities and the

473
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: do that more this year than I ever have. Yeah,

474
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: I just I always do it. I always try to

475
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: tell myself, you know, it's like it's like telling yourself

476
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: you're not gonna go back and you know, grabbing in

477
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 1: their handful of trail mix or something like that. But

478
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: you know you are, you know, so just you might

479
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: as well just own it. That's I think that's where

480
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: I need to come. That's ready to be in my

481
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: head at this point. It's you know, it's I mean,

482
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: if you're not really keen on grabbing that Travis Kelsey

483
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: round one or Darren Waller around two, I think everything

484
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: after that's pretty much fair game. You know, it's hard

485
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: to find, you know, guys, two guys that are unique

486
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: to their offense in terms of the targets are getting.

487
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think George Kittle could be that guy.

488
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: I just think the talent at wide receiver, if it

489
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: stays healthy at some point, is going to have an

490
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: impact on him. Um and maybe not. I mean, the

491
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: quarterback play is going to be better this year and

492
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: uh and so, and maybe the whole offense will be

493
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: better this year. So we'll see. I'm not against draft

494
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: and George Kittle. I have some shares of them. I

495
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: just think it's maybe a little early to grab him

496
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: at this point when you're having to invest that round

497
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: to read capital. By the way, you and I think

498
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: are of the same mind about Brandon Aiyuk I'm excited

499
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: about him this year. It's very very excited about Brandon ayu. Um. Alright,

500
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks ago, I had Jake Seeley

501
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: on this show and we did what I called the

502
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: Fantasy Rorschack Tests, which are the guys that, like, you

503
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: put their name out there and people just see what

504
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: they want to see from that. I Uh, this week,

505
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: I've got it's sort of similar, but kind of difference.

506
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: The guys I'm calling the free range guys because the

507
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: range of outcomes could be so vast, Like, I have

508
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: no idea what to make of them. So I'm going

509
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: to I'm going to put it to you and see

510
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: if you have a better idea of what what we

511
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: should expect from some of these guys, because you're the

512
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: guys that I've avoided in drafts. I just don't know

513
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: what to do. The first one being Clyde Edwards Delaire,

514
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: who I thought last year I thought he was more

515
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: a victim of our expectations than anything that happened to

516
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: him on the field. Um. But because of that, uh,

517
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: and the fact that the you know, the chiefs keep

518
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: adding running backs here and there, I have zero idea

519
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: of what to expect from Clyde Edward de Laire this year.

520
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: I expect him to be cheaper than one oh six

521
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: this year. That's my primary effectation because we didn't get

522
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: it in front of But that's always also something that

523
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: that we can use to leverage value, right, and when

524
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: when a guy falls short, you know, he's on the

525
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: near the top of my list of guys that are

526
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: probably gonna be way cheaper than they should be, just

527
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: based on the disappointment last year, even a flash, it

528
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: wasn't as horrible as we think it was, and and

529
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: it was not great, but it was not terrible until

530
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: leving On Bell showed up. Apparently it was terrible for

531
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: leving On Bell too, right, that was that was weird.

532
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: But uh but but I think, you know, the surprising

533
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: thing for all of us was, here's the best receiving

534
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: back in the draft class and they don't ask him

535
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: to catch anything. He's not a very good goal line back,

536
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: yet they would have him pound into the back of

537
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: that offensive line verily, relentlessly without success. So look, the

538
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: offensive line is gonna be better, The offense is still

539
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: gonna be good. I think if you're getting him in

540
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: the you know, in the third round, you know, and

541
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: you went some different ways early and you would need

542
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: a running back to I think that. I think he's

543
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: a really good play and I think you're getting some

544
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: good value there, and he'll probably outperform those expectations. I

545
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: think it's fair. I mean, I just I think I

546
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: think he's sort of It's maybe like a Goldilocks thing, right,

547
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: like last year we expected too much. This year, maybe

548
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: we don't expect not enough. Next year, we'll we'll have

549
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: it just right, right, So the second year backs too,

550
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I talk Mike Clay talks about the this

551
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: all the time. You know how a lot of times

552
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: the second year backs really come into their own uh

553
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: and uh and and there are examples of that. But

554
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: I think, you know, maybe it does take a little

555
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: bit of adjustment and learning the offense, learning the past

556
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: protection so they can have a more complete role. That's

557
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: always the biggest deal, right, Can you pass block? Do

558
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: you understand the protection schemes? Especially when the quarterback is

559
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: making a half billion dollars that even more, that's that's

560
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: very true. Um, the other guy or another guy, I

561
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: should say that that I haven't really been able to

562
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: pay because O'Dell Beckham Jr. Because Uh, part of me remembers.

563
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I still remember the Giants days

564
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: when you know he was all world right, I mean

565
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: even even beyond you know the catch, just all the

566
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: things he did and how great he was, and the

567
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: fact that he hasn't been able to approach that in

568
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland for any number of things. Right, It's not just

569
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: one thing, but there's there's been multiple reasons he hasn't

570
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: been the same guy in Cleveland. Um. But you know,

571
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: part of me is like, well, you know, the old

572
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: Odell could always come back, or maybe it's just this

573
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: is who he is. Um. So that reason I've sort

574
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: of stayed away. I don't know if you have a

575
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: clearer clear idea of who O. B. J. Can be.

576
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: I don't have a well, I mean we all have

577
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: a pretty clear idea of the range, right, and so

578
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, it just comes that point of what do

579
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: I need when he's there staring at me, you know,

580
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: in the fifth or sixth, seventh round, In the seventh round,

581
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: it's starting to look pretty appealing. That's where I'm going

582
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: back to my like, wow, here's a wide receiver one

583
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: and I see people drafting. You know, somebody's wide receiver three. Okay,

584
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: this might work out well for me. Uh and that's

585
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: not to say three wide receivers how a team can't

586
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: do well because see the Bengals of when we're talking

587
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: next year. Um so, so, I mean I get all that,

588
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: but I do think, you know, there's a price point

589
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: where it's it's I feel pretty comfortable gambling on the

590
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: upside of a player and realizing that maybe the baseline

591
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: is gonna be more what I get. I think Odell

592
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: Beckham is that guy. If I get him, it doesn't

593
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: bug me at the current price, that's sixth round price

594
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: tag does not bother me. Um and and and somewhere

595
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I think this guy

596
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: could be a wide receiver one. You know that he's

597
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: very talented. But I think the offense. I do think

598
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: the offensive scheme is going to restrict him this time

599
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: degree and keep him from ever being the guy that

600
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: we hoped he would be. I do think that that

601
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: plays into it, right because the Browns, um, I mean,

602
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: if everything goes their way, they're not going to need

603
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: to throw the ball a ton, right. I mean, they've

604
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: got a good defense, they can keep opponents from scoring.

605
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: They've got two good running backs and Nick Chubb and

606
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt that they can sort of lean on, especially

607
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: late in late game situations. So maybe that does sort

608
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: of put a cap on what he can be. But

609
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: there's still you know, there will still be games where

610
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: there will be opportunities for him through out and make plays.

611
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: There will still be weeks for Baker Mayfield has to

612
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: throw the football. Uh so maybe those are the weeks

613
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: you see the odell of old. Um, it's way more

614
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: enthusiastic grabbing him in Bestball leagues than than regular Greek leagues. Yeah,

615
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: that's true. Definitely. All Right, so we go back to

616
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: this old team billing Evan Ingram. Um and I have

617
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: been at least for years sort of holding on to

618
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: the hope that Evan Ingram can replicate what he did

619
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: as a key, and it hasn't happened yet. Um. Part

620
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: of me is ready to let go of the rope, right,

621
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: but part of me thinks that maybe he could be there.

622
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: And you talked about kind of just getting tight end

623
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: where you think you can see value. Um, is there

624
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: a spot where you see value with Evan Ingram? I

625
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: see him there's a value in every draft I've been

626
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: in so far. And look, I get it. I mean,

627
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: he came up way short last year. The Giants could

628
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 1: have said it six million dollars by trading or releasing him.

629
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: They didn't neither. I know, they added a lot of

630
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: other components, right, So I'm not, you know, going to

631
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: overstate the case here, but I mean he was horrible

632
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: last year. He was still a Pro Bowl player, so

633
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 1: there's that. But maybe that says more about the Pro

634
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: Bowl than it does about anything else. He had a

635
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: lot of drops, right, and a lot of the passes

636
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: thrown his way were intercepted, Like I think a league

637
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: high one would maybe six passes. I don't know, I

638
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: might I might be crazy on that. It was a

639
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: lot though. Yeah, it was a lot though, And so

640
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Speaker 1: um so I do think here's a guy that if

641
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: you wait until late or if you're drafting a tight

642
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: end too, with upside. He has all those things. And

643
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: some of this is to be Daniels and Jones dependent

644
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: and uh and as uh and I'm you know, I'm

645
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: not gonna go back and jump back onto the be

646
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: the engineer of the Daniel Jones hype trade again. But

647
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of gonna no. There's a there's reasons to

648
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: believe he can. He can play better as well. And

649
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram is a difference making physical you know, presence

650
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: right with that speed to split the steam and everything,

651
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: and they have more weapons downfield. I mean, I can

652
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: so as a as a really cynical, mean spirited old man. Um,

653
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: I have this amazing capacity to tell myself happy stories

654
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: about just about anything, and I could tell myself a

655
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: very happy story about Evan Ingram. I'll say this. I

656
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: was not the engineer of the Daniel Jones hype train,

657
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: but I was near the front of the train with

658
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: my head out the window. You were on with me.

659
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: We were conspiring, you know, I was urging you to

660
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: haunk a horn, you know, to blow the whistle a

661
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: little bit. Um. So this is the one that you

662
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: and I talked about on your radio show with Mike

663
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: Dempsey a couple of weeks ago. The Saints quarterback situation. Um. Again,

664
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: that's what I shouldn't say. I have stayed away from

665
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: it because I've drafted Taysom Hill late in a couple

666
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: of a couple of spots, just hoping for that touchdown upside.

667
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: But if you ask me what I think Sean Payton

668
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: is going to do, I couldn't give you an honest

669
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: answer because I have zero idea how this thing is

670
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: gonna shake out down there. You know, I'm I've been

671
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: avoiding it for that reason. Right number one, we are

672
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: not a hundred percent sure who's gonna win the job.

673
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: We all think it's gonna be Jamis Winston. If I

674
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: was betting money on it, I would bet money on

675
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. I don't have any of that, so it

676
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I'm totally hypothetical, but I would. I

677
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think. I mean, we saw with

678
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill they got there. Look at Taysom Hill, and

679
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: maybe he's better suited to not being the number one.

680
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: But I do think it's interesting to think about this though,

681
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 1: in terms of Taysom Hill, is that touchdown threat? If

682
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston is the starter, do they give Taysom Hill

683
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: that same role when he's the number two quarterback? Maybe

684
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: they need to be a little more cautious with him

685
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: as the number two and they don't put him in

686
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: those positions as a pass catcher, ball carrier, etcetera. Etcetera.

687
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: I've talked to the John Hendricks from SI dot com

688
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: about this over the weekend, and that was in part

689
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: his theory. In general, I'm concerned about the offense a

690
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: little bit because this offense has been, you know, funneled

691
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: through a very narrow band of players, right, and so

692
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things we always have to

693
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: do for the magazines and everyone asked you about who's

694
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: the first round bust. Well, I think everyone's gonna play

695
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: pretty good that I drafted in the first round. But

696
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: if you're like trying to split hairs there, I look

697
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: at Alvin Camara going in the top four and you know,

698
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: maybe top five, and I can tell myself a sad

699
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: story there of of you know, Drew Brees targeting his

700
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: running back nearly thirty percent at the time and percent

701
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: at the time over the last four years with Camara

702
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: in the backfield, how much of his value has been

703
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: based on those targets and the production that comes from those.

704
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston didn't target his running backs, you know, twenty

705
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: percent at the time. I think it was closer to

706
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: eighteen percent at the time. During his four seasons as starter,

707
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: uh Taysom Hill did not target Alvim Camara heavily last year.

708
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Is anyone who has Album Camara on their the roster knows? So,

709
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're looking for a reason to be

710
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: a little bit concerned, like I'm not concerned, I'm not

711
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: not drafting Album Camara. Just in the back of my mind,

712
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: I say, this could change a little bit, and will

713
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: this change also for Michael Thomas and the pieces around

714
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: of it. And they don't have a lot of pieces

715
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: around him, So I don't know if I have a

716
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: lot of expectations for this offense other than the obvious

717
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: that yes, Albu Camara is a is a fantasy running back,

718
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: one who I might be willing to draft at a

719
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: higher price than I'm totally comfortable with, but kind of

720
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: okay with it. And Michael Thomas is a value because

721
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: he's coming off a wonky year. Yeah, I mean, I

722
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: think I think Thomas is a guy that I'm not

723
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: worried about at all in the least. I mean, even

724
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: when Taysom Hill was the starter and he was nothing,

725
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: there was no fall off for him. He was just

726
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: as productive. I mean, I do share that that concern

727
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: about Camara based on on who's going to be the quarterback.

728
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean, my my thing with with Taysom Hill is

729
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: if they were willing to take Drew Brees off the field,

730
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: and granted this was not the same Drew Brees we

731
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: had seen it earlier in his career, obviously it was.

732
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: It was a you know, an aging player who wasn't

733
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: the same. But if everybody even take him off the field,

734
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: who's to say they won't do it with Jamis Winston.

735
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: That's a little bit well, I'll ask this though, Uh

736
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: does Alvin Camara having his own breakfast cereal now change

737
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: anything you know he's got. He's got a serial player

738
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: Camara crunch. I think it is is Adam drab and

739
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: eat it because if so, I'm even more excited about

740
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: Adam Dravia. But I just want them to let him

741
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: wear the two color shoes every game. Yes, please please, NFL.

742
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: I'll I'll shoot an email to Roger Goodell, see see

743
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: if that'll happen. Um. All right, So you mentioned Michael

744
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: Carter as a guy you like, and I like him

745
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: as well. You mentioned you and like dem c Are

746
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: are trying to artificially inflate his a d P. So

747
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: I draft I will draft Michael Carter in spots. I

748
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: have drafted Corey Davis in a couple of spots, and

749
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's that it's that, you know, taking

750
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: the last slights of pizza sort of regret, right, Like

751
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: you you feel like this is gonna be a good idea,

752
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: but in the back of your mind, you know that

753
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: this could kind of go wrong. You could be you know,

754
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: end up, you know, with the bubble guts in the

755
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: middle of the night. Like that's sort of how I

756
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: feel about the Jets offense as a whole. Like, on

757
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: the one side, like I feel like this could be

758
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: something really good, and then part of me is like,

759
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: it's the Jets. When has it really been good? Where

760
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: do you fall on that? Uh? Did I mention? I'm

761
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: able to tell myself very happy story. So I can

762
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: tell myself a pretty happy story about the Jets. Right,

763
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: They've drafted this quarterback, and I know the history of

764
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: them drafting quarterbacks is not great. I don't necessarily subscribe

765
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: to all the historical I mean, Joe Douglas just got

766
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: there right, and and so he had to work through

767
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: some really horrible issues that were left behind in terms

768
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: of personnel and coaching, right, So now he has the

769
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: people he wants on board, he's selecting the player he

770
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: wants to. Look at what he's done the offensive line

771
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: the last two years, that lest side of that offensive

772
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: line is gonna be damn good, right, And so I'm

773
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: kind of excited. Then you look at the kind of

774
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: players they drafted on the offensive side of football at

775
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: the skilled position. Sees as like super explosive threat Elijah

776
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: More as a guy I'm interested in, certainly in Dynasty

777
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: um and maybe a little bit and read rap maybe more,

778
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: maybe less now that Jamison Crowder is back, but maybe

779
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: not because they might still trade him, you know, I

780
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: mean that. But I think you look at Michael Carter,

781
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, back to back thousand yards seasons,

782
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: even sharing with Javante Williams last year over I think

783
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: twenty three plays a twenty yards plus. I mean, these

784
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: are the kind of playmakers you want to give a

785
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: young quarterback. And I think you know, and and also

786
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: in cars case, I mean, is there anyone there really better?

787
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, could Kevin Coleman kind of re emerge as

788
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: a viable early downplay I suppose? So, I mean, you know,

789
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: it's been a few years since we've seen him be

790
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: pretty viable from a fantasy perspective. But it's gonna be

791
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: that similar scheme that he's he knows of, so Michael

792
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: Flour will be running the offense, so you know, we

793
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: kind of know what the plan is and and and yeah,

794
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I kind of am optimistic or maybe probably more optimistic

795
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: than I should be, especially about Michael Carter in particular,

796
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit about wisam Or I'm maybe

797
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: a little bit about Corey Davis, Who's the guy I'm

798
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: probably investing in more not named Michael Carter. It's probably

799
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: Davis just because the price tag and the anticipated role.

800
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: But you know, they paid them, they paid him wide

801
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: Receiver one money or thereabouts. Yeah, I mean, I am

802
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: trying to shake off that whole, you know, ghost of

803
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: Christmas past thing with the Jets, right and um, because

804
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: what I did like with what they did in the

805
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: draft and what they've done so far is they are

806
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: doing for Zack Wilson what they never really did for

807
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: set Donald, which is trying to put something around him. Um,

808
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, and we'll see how the coaching staff shakes

809
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: out and everything around there, but there is at least

810
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: reason to believe that things will be different this time around. Right,

811
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: defense would be better, but maybe not still that much better.

812
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: And that's, you know, always something we're looking for. Like

813
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm so rooting against Dallas's defense right now. I'm hoping

814
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: dan Quinn can't do a damn thing with that group.

815
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, look past the reason. That's the reason we

816
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: love Dak right and all his wide receivers because that

817
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: defense is just not gonna be good and they're gonna

818
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: have to throw the football a million times of game.

819
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, um, all right, before you get out of here,

820
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: I would like to do some rapid fire just random, fun,

821
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: non fancy related questions. You are well known as being

822
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: a cat person. Um you know, love love the photos

823
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: of of your your furry ones when when you throw

824
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: them up there, So I gotta ask Garfield or Heathcliff. Well,

825
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: because I own the real life Garfield, I have to

826
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: go in that direction. Although my little one is kind

827
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: of heath cliff esque in his attitudes, just way more murderous.

828
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: So uh so yeah, so, I mean the Merciless is

829
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: is a Garfield clone, except about three times the size. Wow,

830
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: all right, are you you have fediums Lasagna. Are you

831
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: he eats whatever he wants to that big you kind

832
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: of do? Right? Um? You are also maybe the biggest

833
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: yogi in fantasy twitter. Uh do you have a preferred

834
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: yoga pose? Anything but Cray anything but crow pro is like?

835
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: Uh is? I mean, I'm like almost sixty, man, I don't.

836
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't need that aggravation in my life falling on

837
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: my face and breaking my elbow. So I like all

838
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: of them. I like, I do a ton, I do

839
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: yelga every day. So um, I'm a big fan and

840
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: I like pretty much every damn thing about it. All right,

841
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: I will say that I'm partial to Pigeon. My pigeon great,

842
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: post pigeons great. I can just hang out there for

843
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: a while and like watch TV or just chill out. Also,

844
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: you are a huge music guy. I know you were

845
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: part of the Alison Chain's Fantasy League. You're a live

846
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: music guy. Um, now that that you know the world

847
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: is opening back up again, is there a band that

848
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: you can't wait to go and see live again? As

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00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, there is so so I think

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Speaker 1: Um it's pretty hardcore metal but also a lot of

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Speaker 1: like I mean, they'll mix in reggae, jazz, all kinds

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Speaker 1: of crazy stuff. So um, I'll be I'll be checking

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Speaker 1: them out and uh and in Dallas this year. Sweet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is live music is one of the things I

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Speaker 1: am most looking forward to now that now that we

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Speaker 1: can go back outdoors to be around people, I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. Um, Bob, you know, I always

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Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to you. I look forward to being you know,

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Speaker 1: in your presence, in you know, in live space at

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Speaker 1: some point in the very near future. I would assume

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Speaker 1: that people who listen to this podcast and nowhere to

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Speaker 1: find you. But for the uninitiated, where can they find

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Speaker 1: your work? On the Twitter? At Football die Hard is

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Speaker 1: a good starting point. Football diehards dot Com, the fantasy

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Speaker 1: football pro forecast magazine, Draft of magazine, Teacheets Magazine, Football

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Speaker 1: Diehards magazine and on Serious X Time Fantasy Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: What's that next? The next one promo? I appreciate it, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Bob always always good to talk to you. Be well,

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Speaker 1: continue to be well, and uh you know, best of

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Speaker 1: luck as as we moved through the summer and get

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Speaker 1: closer to the regular season. So thanks for having me on,

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Speaker 1: and you know I'll be hitting you up like every

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Speaker 1: other week for guest but look forward to it, look

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Speaker 1: forward to it. As for us, that is it. We

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Speaker 1: are done. We appreciate you hanging out with the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Show. You know the drill, tell to friends,

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Speaker 1: to tell to friends, rate review, and remember the last

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Speaker 1: thing some people want to do is hurt you. But

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Speaker 1: it's still on the list. Be safe, take care of yourselves,

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Speaker 1: get vaccinated, and we'll see you next week. Wow Wong,

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