WEBVTT - Hour 3 - NBA Movement Slows Down, Kevin Millar

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Well, it looks like the Lakers are all

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<v Speaker 1>on the same page. Now. Lebron, ad Russell, Westbrook all

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<v Speaker 1>got on a phone call reportedly, and they're all committed

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<v Speaker 1>to this upcoming season. That probably means we can't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything with Russ. All right, let's get on a phone

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<v Speaker 1>call and we'll get ready for training camp here. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a report yesterday there is a new team

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<v Speaker 1>that could be interested in Kevin Durant, the Washington Wizards. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>from what I'm told, Bradley Beale would not be involved

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<v Speaker 1>in anything there. But once again, if I'm the Nets,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to send him where he might want

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<v Speaker 1>to go. He grew up in the Washington, DC area,

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<v Speaker 1>but he grew up a Toronto Raptors fan. But now

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<v Speaker 1>you have Washington. It feels like there are other teams

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<v Speaker 1>that go. Well, if he's not going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix and not go to Miami, why don't we take

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<v Speaker 1>a shot here? And it's quiet. That's when I get

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<v Speaker 1>more interested. It's like something's going on here because normally,

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<v Speaker 1>when people are talking, they're trying to generate conversation, they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to generate something here, and it felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was quiet with Kevin Durant, and it feels like this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be an ongoing process for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Kevin Durant going to be traded? And what are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to get? And you know, Brian winhorns the

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<v Speaker 1>motherships at August, but that's not going to stop everybody

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<v Speaker 1>from speculating over the next six weeks or so, five

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<v Speaker 1>weeks or so, where is he going to go? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to get in return? What's that mean

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<v Speaker 1>for Kyrie? I've maintained all along. I think Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 1>should stay in Brooklyn. I've yet to hear a reason

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<v Speaker 1>why he wants out, because they did accommodate him. Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>is the one who let him down. But they did

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<v Speaker 1>everything that I think Kevin Durant asked them to do,

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<v Speaker 1>except for they didn't extend Kyrie this time around. But

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted Steve Nash. Steve Nash was out coached certainly

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, and Katie may look around and go,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to win another championship here. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Steph Curry just one one is not

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<v Speaker 1>lost on Kevin Durant when it comes to bigger picture

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<v Speaker 1>here of where I stand, because it was well, Steph

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<v Speaker 1>needed Katie to win a couple of titles. Steph didn't

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<v Speaker 1>need Katie this time around. And Lebron. Lebron's looking around

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<v Speaker 1>going I got to get one more here. If we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to make this an honest conversation and debate about

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<v Speaker 1>me and Michael Jordan, I got to get it at

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<v Speaker 1>least one more here? Can I get Kyrie? And does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean that we're going to win another championship? You

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<v Speaker 1>know Peyton manning any means necessary, all right? You know

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<v Speaker 1>he had a dead arm and they won because of

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<v Speaker 1>their defense. But he got another Super Bowl. So having

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<v Speaker 1>two compared to one, you get Lebron another championship here,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe it's strengthens your debate, your side of

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<v Speaker 1>this when it comes to Lebron versus Michael Jordan. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think Katie looks at this and says, where can

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<v Speaker 1>I get a championship? Because I'm not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>it here in Brooklyn? Can I go someplace else? What

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<v Speaker 1>do they have to give up to get me? And

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<v Speaker 1>then you wonder about the Rudy Gobert trade and what

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<v Speaker 1>that means for anybody else of you know, big time value,

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<v Speaker 1>Marquis value. What do you have to give up to

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<v Speaker 1>get If you got Rudy Gobert for that, then what

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to give up for Kevin Durant? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to give up for Donovan Mitchell? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>these are things that are going on now because the

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<v Speaker 1>price of poker went up and Kevin Durant may start

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<v Speaker 1>to look at other options here. Plus, he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>he's under contract. If they say we're going to send

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<v Speaker 1>you here, I don't know what his recourse is. They

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<v Speaker 1>can say, look, I don't want to go there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make it difficult for them. Kyrie, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do with him? What if nobody else is interested in

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<v Speaker 1>him and the going price for him is one first

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<v Speaker 1>round pick? Brooklyn probably will hold out for the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven in twenty twenty nine first round picks, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers are probably going there's nobody else interested. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the offer. Do you want to keep Kyrie? And at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, if I'm Brooklyn, I say yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep him. I'll keep him and KD. Hey, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>got us into this. You guys, get us out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys want, you know, Kyrie, to get a long

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<v Speaker 1>term contract. Why don't you prove something? Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>show me something, because we're not going to give you away.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to send you someplace so you benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to do something that's good for our organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant, Kevin, you wanted this contract eleven months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you signed it. You wanted Steve Nash, We did everything

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<v Speaker 1>you ask Why are you leaving? I'm still waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to ask KD why. I've asked woj Mannix win Horse.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody has an answer like why he wants out? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the program. Already in progress. We have spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time talking about college football. Deshaun Watson

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<v Speaker 1>The Deshaun Watson situation is fluid. The nfl PA and

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<v Speaker 1>DeShawn Watson have decided to challenge a full year suspension

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<v Speaker 1>in court. If that happens. Mike Floria has been covering this,

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<v Speaker 1>so is Charles Robinson of Yahoo's Sports. He reports that

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Players Association and Watson's camp already have decided

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<v Speaker 1>to sue the league in federal court if the end

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<v Speaker 1>result of the process is a full season suspension. Now

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<v Speaker 1>there was a report that it might be somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>two games in eight games. So if you have an

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<v Speaker 1>independent judge here, arbitrator, which I don't know how independent

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<v Speaker 1>she can actually be. Feels like the NFL uses a

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<v Speaker 1>few independent arbitrators. She's being paid by the NFL, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how independent, but whatever her rulings are,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're going to have There's other cases that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to complicate this. The suspensions of Tom Brady, Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott has also been brought up. Ben Roethlisberger has been

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<v Speaker 1>brought up, Robert Kraft has been brought up. At least

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I've been told. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>can get a final decision that everybody's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>happy with, Because if I'm the NFL, I appeal this,

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<v Speaker 1>then I know that Deshaun Watson in his camp are

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<v Speaker 1>going to then take this to a higher court. Yeah, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say hypothetically the judge comes back tomorrow and says

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<v Speaker 1>it's an eight game suspension for Deshaun Watson. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, would you let it go and take whatever

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<v Speaker 1>heat you get that day even though it's not your decision.

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<v Speaker 1>So the story is over at least in the near future.

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<v Speaker 1>We move on a training camp, we get to football,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about other stuff. Would you or if you're

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<v Speaker 1>at Roger Cadell, would you say Nope, not enough. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to fight this. I would fight it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the NFL can go We need to move past

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<v Speaker 1>this here. I think you still have to approach this

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<v Speaker 1>as this is. This is a legendary decision. This is

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<v Speaker 1>precedent setting. You know, we have to go for the

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<v Speaker 1>max here. I still I've been told indefinite suspension. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the NFL would like to have because they want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure while we suspend you, we may suspend you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, longer. But if you decide that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to appeal this, whether the league would appeal such an outcome,

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<v Speaker 1>and whether the Commissioner or his DESIGNI would impose a

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<v Speaker 1>dramatically longer ban remains to be seen, according to Mike Florio.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, as Florio points out, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>stronger arguments on Deshaun Watson's behalf comes from the language

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<v Speaker 1>that's in the collective bargaining agreement. Ownership and club or

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<v Speaker 1>league management have traditionally been held to a higher standard

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<v Speaker 1>and will be subject to more significant discipline. That has

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<v Speaker 1>not been the case. And the Texans have settled thirty

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<v Speaker 1>claims against them for their alleged role in Watson's alleged

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<v Speaker 1>sexual misconduct. So what kind of discipline do the Texans face?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard anything. So you settle on a FRIDAYGG

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<v Speaker 1>thirty claims and then it's like, okay, we set it up,

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<v Speaker 1>No need to worry, let's move on. Camp's open it up.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of things that are going on

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<v Speaker 1>with this. But I still think that the NFL is

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<v Speaker 1>going to look at this and say, I need there's

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<v Speaker 1>a sweet spot of probably twelve games or more that

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<v Speaker 1>the league would want, but indefinite suspension. Let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>they fight it. And what Deshaun Watson's camp thinks about this? Yeah, see,

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<v Speaker 1>have you heard any kind of time frames? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously there has to be some type of decision made

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<v Speaker 1>before the season. I was heard, I was told this

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<v Speaker 1>week that you could have a decision now. I reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to a source this morning and he said, both

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<v Speaker 1>sides refused to budge, that this is what the league wants,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what Deshaun Watson's camp wants. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the numbers are in there, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was told that both sides refuse to budge. Cleveland's

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<v Speaker 1>training camp opens up a week from today. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the NFL goes, well, we got to be

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<v Speaker 1>fair to the Browns or Deshaun Watson. They don't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a judge. It's up to her

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<v Speaker 1>and she. You know, the Browns knew what they were getting,

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<v Speaker 1>that this could be a drawn out process and he

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<v Speaker 1>might not even have him year one, and so did

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun wants it. But I'm waiting to hear if the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL is going to punish the Jexans here, because this

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to what Deshaun Watson's camp is arguing. It's like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you hold teams accountable or owners accountable. Got Daniel Snyder

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<v Speaker 1>in the South of France he's not coming up for

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<v Speaker 1>air anytime soon. You're not gonna you know, he's gonna wait.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna wait till the fall. Probably you're gonna wait

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<v Speaker 1>to see who's gonna be in power in politics there

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<v Speaker 1>before he probably surfaces. Yeah, Poet, Daniel Snyder's like Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Hanks in that movie The Terminal where he's just in

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<v Speaker 1>them for years. He's gonna stay in that international terminal.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't go anywhere, can't we talk to And I told

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<v Speaker 1>you that I had somebody I know who was on

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<v Speaker 1>the yacht in France. They said that Snyder never came up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on the top deck. There. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>source on a yacht. Oh what a great life I have. Hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see Daniel Snyder? You did not? Was he there?

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<v Speaker 1>He was down below? That's a big yacht, big big yot.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if anybody was allowed to go downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you're on Daniel Snyder's yacht. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you do on his yacht if Daniel Snyder's down

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<v Speaker 1>below bow deck. But if it's to get together and

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<v Speaker 1>the host doesn't show up, like, well, did he zoom

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<v Speaker 1>up to the upper deck? I don't know, can you

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<v Speaker 1>have a boat that big? Have you seen these things?

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<v Speaker 1>I know? But just how ask me the Russian oligarch. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're losing all of theirs. It's like, hey, you park this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like double parking, and then they tow

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<v Speaker 1>your car. That's what's going on with the Russian billionaires. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take that yacht. A couple of phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>here Mike and Minnesota. Hi Mike, what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning? And and Dan ets listen. I listen to

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<v Speaker 1>radio shows. I listened to yours, and I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the Dry Heath on PGA Tour Radio. It's usually David Ferrety,

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<v Speaker 1>McCord and Drew Stoltz. Last night, Ferrety wasn't on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they had Charles Barkley on him and McCord had

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<v Speaker 1>this super candid conversation about going to broadcast. Listen. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been a fan of the tour of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>live thing, but if those three guys get together and

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<v Speaker 1>they're broadcasting, I'm all in. I gotta listen to it

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<v Speaker 1>because it's going to be a cut up, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is maybe Barkley doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>leave TNT. Maybe he stays at TNT with that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of draw, Maybe TNT finally says, look, we'll pick up

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<v Speaker 1>live Golf, and instead of them having to pay live golf,

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<v Speaker 1>Live golf has got so much money, maybe they end

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<v Speaker 1>up paying. Yeah, And I think that's that's a fair point, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>I was told that Gary McCord was approached a while

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<v Speaker 1>ago about being an a list for the Live Tour,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe Charles doesn't have to leave TNT. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he's going to get his offer on Wednesday, Wednesday night,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll find out if it's enough for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>attempt Charles to join Ken in Las Vegas. I can

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<v Speaker 1>what's on your mind him? I'm nine to soft two thirty. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just on the comment everybody's criticizing the PJA. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I s going to Live Tour, But they don't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to mind any one other pro athletes leave their team

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<v Speaker 1>for more money to another team. So is there supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a difference, Well, they're not leaving the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Tyree Kill didn't go to the CFL for

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<v Speaker 1>the USFL. He went to the Dolphins. Look, everybody's got

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<v Speaker 1>their opinions I don't. I don't want to. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sound sanctimonious here, you know, And I'm asked this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. It's the same different, same question, maybe sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>for differently. Well, what would you do if they put

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of money in front of you? I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I would not do it. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how much. There's not enough money that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to change my life. I would not do it

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<v Speaker 1>my stance. Now it's hypothetical. Let's say somebody puts twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollars a year in front of me, would

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<v Speaker 1>I do it? Try it and the answer would be no.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's me in my situation. Okay, that's all. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be hard for me to face my two brothers

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<v Speaker 1>in law who were there on nine eleven as fireman

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning up and I mean cleaning up in the worst way,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were there for three months. Couldn't do it

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<v Speaker 1>for other reasons too, But that's me. That's my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to keep sending and tweeting what

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<v Speaker 1>you'd take, though, I would not take the money. If

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<v Speaker 1>David Farady wants to do it, good for him, and

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<v Speaker 1>there may be reasons that he has that are different. Charles.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to do it. If that's what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do, that's on you. But me, I would never.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do it, couldn't. So that's the only way

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<v Speaker 1>I can answer this because I keep getting this, Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what if they put that money I do it? Try

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<v Speaker 1>me and I would say no, it won't change my

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<v Speaker 1>life and I could not do that. Take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>or stream us live on the Peacock app. Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 1>Red Raiders football players each will get twenty five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for one year. Name, image and likeness everybody. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>gets twenty five thousand dollars. The deal will be for

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<v Speaker 1>all eighty five scholarship players plus fifteen of Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 1>walk ons. And I guess this is an oil and

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<v Speaker 1>gas executive who is a member of the Matador Club

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<v Speaker 1>board of directors, a former Texas Tech offensive lineman, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're expected to do community service and charitable work in

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<v Speaker 1>the Lubbock area. Payments will start to go out the

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<v Speaker 1>first week of August. Hey, you're getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these collectives, and that's groups where they just bring in

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<v Speaker 1>the money. You're seeing this at Ohio State. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they have half a million dollars that they've collected for

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<v Speaker 1>some of the football players there. Yes point, I read

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<v Speaker 1>a little about this this morning, and they say this

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<v Speaker 1>could work for a school like Texas Tech, who may

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<v Speaker 1>not get the number one overall prospect type guys who

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<v Speaker 1>make the big, big dollars, but they could have a

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<v Speaker 1>deeper roster of good players by this, everyone gets twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five grand if you just joined Texas Tech football. We

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<v Speaker 1>were just talking about you're going to have the haves

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<v Speaker 1>and the have nots when it comes to college football

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<v Speaker 1>and what happens to these other schools nonconference games that

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<v Speaker 1>are so important for the athletic departments, for the school,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire athletic program. And source just sent me a

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<v Speaker 1>note whether the Big ten, SEC, etc. Will agree to

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<v Speaker 1>an arrangement that most, if not all non conference games

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<v Speaker 1>will be with teams from the Big two, three, four

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<v Speaker 1>and the American Conference USA MAC Mountain Weston sun Belt,

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<v Speaker 1>sun Belt. This allows for a level of peace among

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<v Speaker 1>the FBS conferences, So still trying to do that where

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<v Speaker 1>you have these non conference games. This likely sets the

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<v Speaker 1>stage for college football FBS football, including bowl games, to

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<v Speaker 1>be formally controlled outside of the NCAA. This has happened quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you got to find somebody to replace

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Emritt. What's your job going to be at the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the NCAA. And uh, that's that's within the

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<v Speaker 1>next year or so. Yeah. So Nick Saban is his

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<v Speaker 1>media time the past couple hours at the media day

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<v Speaker 1>at SEC Media Days, he was asked if someone didn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me something about Nick Saban. We don't know. Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Saban said, quote, how well I clean house? I make

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<v Speaker 1>a list every day, I get a list, I vacuum.

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<v Speaker 1>I pledge a refrigerator. Nobody knows how well I do

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<v Speaker 1>these things. Now a lot of people are throwing the

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<v Speaker 1>BS flag because Nick Saban said, I pledge the refrigerator,

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<v Speaker 1>and pledges usually for wood products. But I did some

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<v Speaker 1>research on this as journalists, and pledge does make a

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<v Speaker 1>expert care stainless steel cleaner for refrigerators and other countertops.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to you, Dan, Yeah, I can't picture Nick Saban

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<v Speaker 1>with a can't a pledge in a rag in his hand,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said it. Coachavan said it. Who needs the

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<v Speaker 1>pledge that fridge every day? Anyway? Yeah? How you keep

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<v Speaker 1>your How you keep your house that dirty every day?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you keep it that clean? But it's that dirty,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can be ocd and then you're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to clean it every day. But I can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, uh, have you seen my pledge? I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>dude the refreegeriner again, here's the granite cleaner. This football

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is fascinating. It's just you see grown ups act

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<v Speaker 1>like children here because they're supposed to be the ones

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<v Speaker 1>in charge here, and it's like, nope, yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>all about the bottom line. It's greed and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But you got, you know, the players wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to get in on it. And I have no problem

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<v Speaker 1>with name, image and likeness when when you see everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on now, I hope that you have a

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<v Speaker 1>softer spot in your heart for these players who are like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get mine while we can, because everybody else is.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Millar, the MLB network analyst co host of Intentional Talk.

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<v Speaker 1>He won a World Series with the Red Sox. He

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<v Speaker 1>was at Dodgers Stadium last night home run derby covering

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<v Speaker 1>the All Star Game. MLB's live All Star Game coverage

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<v Speaker 1>from LA gets underway at noon Eastern, with Kevin Mular

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<v Speaker 1>and Stephen Nelson co hosting Intentional Talk from Dodger Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>at three thirty today. Great to talk to you, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of memories do you have playing at Dodgers Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a video on my phone from a home

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<v Speaker 1>run that I hit off Y say video voicemail off

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<v Speaker 1>of chan Ho Park in nineteen ninety nine Dodgers Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad got it off of Vince Scully's radio broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>and he was doing lab work. And to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>I still have it on my phone. Out of the

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five different phones we've gone through, I have not

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<v Speaker 1>lost that yet. So I do have to get down

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of tape not to lose that. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a walk off. It's just a no, just a

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<v Speaker 1>home run, just a home run in a bullpen. As

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<v Speaker 1>a little kid from La City Junior calls down the street,

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<v Speaker 1>Dad had as Scully goes, that's a hard drive, and

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Blackfield and I have to have that forever. That

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<v Speaker 1>is great. Your last couple of years were Kershaw's first couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you cross Pais with Kershaw? Never faced Kershaw? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he throws an invisible slider, obviously, the nasty curveball.

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<v Speaker 1>Never faced him. I talked to Sean Casey about Kershaw.

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<v Speaker 1>He had faced him. He said he's filthy, but I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never crossed path. Wait to explain that, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>invisible slider. It's like, if you watched Kershaw pitch, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we know the fastball, the big curveball. Then he has

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<v Speaker 1>this little cutter that he throws, and it's that little

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<v Speaker 1>cutter that just never gets there. It's down and in

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<v Speaker 1>the writings it's been as pitch the last seven eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>If he was just coming up, what kind of picture

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<v Speaker 1>how would he be viewed if if he threw this,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably doesn't top out at what ninety four? Maybe five? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's not. I don't think he's near there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's usually around ninety two, topping out pitches

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<v Speaker 1>at eighty nine to ninety and then he's got that

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<v Speaker 1>little cutter that that he's put into play as his

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<v Speaker 1>velocity's gone down. Every pitcher has to figure out this

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<v Speaker 1>thing as they get older. CC Sabatia was a power

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<v Speaker 1>pitcher right ninety eight cutters and sliders and ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and then as he got older he had to learn

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<v Speaker 1>a two steamer and a change up and start working

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<v Speaker 1>a way off to play. That's one thing that Clayton's

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<v Speaker 1>done is he's adjusted to the lack of power with

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<v Speaker 1>the spatt well and steals able to compete. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how he would where he would get drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say he's just coming up and given what we

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<v Speaker 1>ask of pitchers now, or what we want from pitchers,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to throw at least ninety five to get

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<v Speaker 1>their attention, now, don't you. Yeah, it's weird. It's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the power. It's everything's power, right, everything's power, power, power, power,

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right, what would he be? And you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a kid, you know, coming out of Dallas, Texas

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<v Speaker 1>throwing like his I mean, who knows if he's a

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick because he doesn't have the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five in today's you know game? What about Jeter? You

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<v Speaker 1>know you have the documentary on ESPN, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>coming up he was slight, uh, didn't have a powerful arm,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hit for power. You know, he ran, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's a first what doing top five or top

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<v Speaker 1>six pick? But I wonder how we would view Jeter

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<v Speaker 1>now coming out of Well, he's got the size, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got hight, he's got speed, he can play defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So I still think he's right where he needs to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that first round? And I mean first round because

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<v Speaker 1>if his ability to the stuff they judge, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a toolbox in that judge. I couldn't run, throw, hit,

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<v Speaker 1>or feel Derek Jeter can do at all. But how

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<v Speaker 1>do you hit a major league baseball without? Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you have the ability? Hand eye coordination? Right is

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid since two in the backyard with your

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<v Speaker 1>dad and playing football, everybody has the ability. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a hockey player. I mean what they do on the ice.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I get down the ice and slapstick, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the stuff. It's the hand eye coordination. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball player has. And that's one thing I could

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<v Speaker 1>do is put a bat, you know, I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>ball to the bat, and that was something you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as running the sixty yard dash seven

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<v Speaker 1>six seven seven, throwing arm, it's probably a twenty. You know. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna put you right there in the average thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but below average because you can't run and there's no range.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I always say, you know, it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to see with your own eyes, but that six tool

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<v Speaker 1>is somebody's you know, heart. Dustin Pedroia, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>first rounder five foot eight, five nine, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>look up, you know, years later he's a silver slugger.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an MVP. Josiel two bay. That's what makes this

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<v Speaker 1>game great. You know how many stolen bases you had

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<v Speaker 1>in your career? Eight seven six seven? Thank you? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember all of them? No? I remember I remember

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<v Speaker 1>five of them, probably being I was the back end

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<v Speaker 1>of steel. Big Thatcher went to third throw me on

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<v Speaker 1>the second. Were you faster than Big Poppy? No? Big

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<v Speaker 1>Poppy's a better athlete than he gets credit for. He

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<v Speaker 1>could play basketball. Poppy's got quick little feed. They shuffle.

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.120
<v Speaker 1>He's got a shuffle like kind of run when you're

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>top heavy. He probably missed leg day about six years

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of his life. And I was that guy, so he

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>was a shuffler. How would you describe the reaction to

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Pooholes last night? Pretty awesome? I mean I was happy,

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Like Miguel Cabrera. We had him on the show yesterday,

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Albert Pool. When Commissioner calls Cabrera and you're looking at

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>you know these guys, it's great. Yes, right, there's a

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of Latin players that looked up to these guys

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 1>are their favorite players. That's what the All Star Game's about, right,

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>It's it's the storyline of stuff Albert Pool holds. Obviously

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the back end of his career, Obviously the last few

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 1>years of the back end. But this guy was top

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>three right hands in the game. Ever, well, I still

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>maintain when people say Mike Trout, boy, he's going to

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>be one of the all time greats. I said a

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago, he should aspire to be Miguel Cabrera. Like,

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>let's just start there. Because Miguel Cabrera five hundred home runs,

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>three thousand hits, I mean, he one of the great

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Now he not, you know, as good all around as

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Mike Trout is. But you know, Mike Trout's thirty, Like

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you start to look at you know, they wanted to

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 1>be May's and Mantle and Aaron and Miguel Cabrera is

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>where I would probably start. What do you think of that?

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, You're right, and to be great you have

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to be available. Now Mike Trout has been available. I'm

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>just using you know this thing. We put guys as stars, right,

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Fernando Tatis Junior, what a talent, good looking you look

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>at him play and wiring ways on the field. But

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Pool Holts Manny Ramirez, Miguel Cabrera. They did this for

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>ten plus years at thirty and one hundred and three thirty. Yeah,

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>so they're available, they have a healthy baseball body, not

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that anybody wants to get hurt, but there's some guys

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that just get hurt. And I wonder what the conversation

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>is going to be in five years about Otney that

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>are they going to be? You know, they drafted all

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>pitchers this last draft, Like what are they building to

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>something that is going to actually come to fruition where

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>there he's playing in playoff games. Yeah, it's a tough

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>thing because that organization, it's almost you need to do

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a street sweeper kind of figuring a few things out.

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>They spent money, they haven't spent money in the right way,

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>so Gardi moreno and the Angels haven't spent money. But

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff you're like, man, okay, geez. And

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>then the Falters down they had never you know since

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the Jared Weavers and Escobars and you know when the

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Angels were good. But the starting staff that go into

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>camp and go, yeah, I've got three big boys that

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>can match up with the Walker Buelers and the Clayton

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Kershaws if we get to the big dance, the de

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Gram and the Max Chergors. If you get to the

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>big dance, that's the question. Right, you can have a

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>great regular season, but you gotta have two big boys

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to match up with anybody else's two big boys and

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the story and that's the postseason, Right, Yankees have a

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>wonderful year going. If they get to the postseason and

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>run into a bus stall, then the season's kind of like, Yeah,

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>three one hundred and ten games, congratulations. Would you rather

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>see Otani at the plate or on the mound? Man,

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're the opposition, If you're the opposition, yeah, I'd

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>rather see him at the plate. I mean, I'm the

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>mound when he's on. I mean, the Angels do their

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty year anniversary two thousand and two, John Lackey, you know,

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the boys are there and Otani I think, struck out

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>thirteen at night, and it's an eye opener for the

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>guys that maybe don't watch baseball time. They're like, Wow,

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>what he does on that mound is pretty special. He's big,

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>by the way, what Yeah, I can't imagine an All

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Star Game starting out with two guys bigger than Otani

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Judge going one two against I'm telling you, yeah.

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Judge is six foot seven, two hundred and eighty five

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>pounds of pierced steel. O'tani's six foot five, maybe maybe

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>closer to six six, but six five runs. Well, but

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>a big guy yesterday comes up. You know, I was

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to learn a phrase and I look up. I'm like,

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, these guys are huge, Danny, like you and

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I are normal sized dudes. These guys are like, wow. Well,

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>it used to be if you were taller, you had

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the bigger strike zone, and you know that was always

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>a detriment. There is that still the case with being

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>taller and having a bigger Now everybody's swinging for the

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>fences anyway, So what's it matter if you miss two?

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>As long as you get one. It's crazy, it's crazy.

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>You can strike out now it's four hundred times, like

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>all your launch angles good, you're you know you're ATSI

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>blast was one on nine on your seventeen great swings

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>this year. But it's a crazy game now, it's different,

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the shifts are different. It's but it's it's fun. These

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>players are good and the games are a good spot,

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>a good spot. If not the Yankees versus the Dodgers

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>in the World Series, then who Astros versus the Braves, Mets,

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Mets can get Buck Show Walter. I'll tell you right now, Mets,

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you know it was. It was cute coming up to

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the All Star break because I know one thing, the

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Mets have dominated dominating here. The Braves are just come

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and come and come. And if they would have been

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in second place, not that that would have been in

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the world, but that have been weird for the Mets,

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>and they have been weird for Buck Show Walter. But

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.040
<v Speaker 1>I know one thing, Buck Show Walter was the I

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>am the exact guy for the Mets. The Mets I

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>put in that equation. Any problem with Soto turning down

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>fifteen for four to forty, No, not at all. I

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have any problem with that. I have a problem

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>with it getting out there. You know, who leaks this stuff?

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>How does Ken Rosenthal get this story right? And that's

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's an organizational play maybe, or it's someone

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>inside the scene. But honestly, gott if you and I

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>are doing a deal and I choose to turn that

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>down and you're the owner or you're Rizzo, or how

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>does he get out? Well, you want Soto to look bad,

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>don't you. That's the point. Right, So, now do you

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>think what Soto can't look bad. He's a great kid.

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's twenty three years old. Listen to him speak,

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>watch him play the strike zone. The ability if you're

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>paying guys well Max Schers or forty plus a million

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>dollars to make twenty eight to thirty starts, If he's

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna make them all, where's Juan Soto? He's not twenty

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>five million annual ballet. And that offer is four hundred

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and twenty million dollars more than you made in your

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>entire career. Think about that, and that's why you and

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I are still working. He made what you made by

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the All Star break. Clayton makes that purpose. I had

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to get a job ninety seven minutes after I was retired.

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Y launched. Thank guy, I'd have been hitting fungos and

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>soup balls you know wherever. I don't even know the

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>shoot balls at South Dakota, Yeah somewhere. Did you ever

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>like when you pulled up at Fenway in your car,

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>given everybody else and what they were driving, like, did

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you could could I tell which one's Millar's car? No?

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I was paycheck to paycheck. You know, I have the

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Hummer to H two with the wheel and I had

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the system, and I had one five in the seats

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and I had the Harley, and you know, I was

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a dude. I didn't. I never I'll take this. My

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>number was about eighty five thousand. I never spent one

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>eighty you know, like everybody's got these one are these

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>things called those Mercedes, those those those you probably have

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>one gwagon, thank you. I can't spend two twelve on

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>a car, right. I was always at sixty seven Camaro.

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I was always in that scene. The best car on

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox World Series team was Who's Poppy? I

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>mean when I told the story last night, I said, listen,

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>we hosted a little scene for Poppy at Maruchi, you know,

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was pretty awesome with Tory Hunter showed up

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>in albur Pool's fairbo. It was just the story of

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>him coming to pick me up in like a Honda

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Civic or a Total Crolla. When I was with the

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Blue Jays and O nine, he was dressed in a

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>collared shirt. He had no jewelry, he you know, and

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I joke around him and this is how we talk

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>back then. So this isn't a bad bang. I said, dog,

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you're hitting one eighty was zero home run. You know

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 1>you're dressed like a white boy. You look like me, Poppy,

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>And I said, give me tomorrow. I want to be

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>picked up in the Ferrari. I need the blaying, I

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>need the necklace, I need all the watches the air,

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, bro, you're right, You're exactly right. He

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>came and picking up the next day. He had the

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>red Ferrari with Poppy on the front. He had every

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>accessorized jewelry is worth one point five million on risk

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>and risk, and he goes deep in the first inning.

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>He looks at me and gives me to win. But

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, that's you. You get Poppy. You can't come

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>dress like me up the golf course, Honda Civic. Have

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>fun today. I know your coverage starts in Uh. Well,

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>you guys gotta get ready, don't you coming up at noon.

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>We'll live at two oh two. Okay, all right, all right, yeah,

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>great to go back in bed, all right, buddy, thank you,

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>all right. Thanks. Kevin MLIR MLB network analyst and coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>zoom in. We just had Clayton Kershaw on and Kershaw

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>was showing you how he will, you know, hold the

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>ball on certain pitches. And so it's a bonus there

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>that you could have somebody describe it and then when

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 1>they show you what they do how they do it,

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>because it you think, well, how do you make the

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>ball do that? And even when you see it and

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you see the grip, there's still something about armslot, the angle.

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes you'll see somebody who's five to eight

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and they could throw the ball ninety five miles an hour.

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Somebody who's six five who throws it, you know, eighty

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>six miles an hour. Just that the science involved in it.

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm always fascinated with that. So I remember in high school,

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 1>you'd face somebody and you go, that guy doesn't look

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>like he's that big, and then all of a sudden

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>you could hear him warming up, and then you're like, damn,

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>he's doing hard, Like how's he throwing so hard. It's

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>like when you see a golfer and you go, how

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>does he hit it so far? Weighs one hundred and

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>fifty five pounds. It's just science that's involved in it.

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Technology that's involved in it. Yeah. Point. I remember about

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>six seven years ago, we had Pager Martinez The Great

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Picture in studio and we're all like, he's very normal

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>sized person. I'm what, he can't be six foote eighty five.

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>He's a little heavier now. But when he played, Yeah,

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and he showed us a couple of things. He was

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about how when you're in your pitching motion, you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hide your hand as long as possible so

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<v Speaker 1>they can't see how you're holding the ball, so you

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<v Speaker 1>tuck it behind your hip, behind your shoulder, anywhere to

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<v Speaker 1>hide the ball. Yes, And they would talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get ready to deliver the ball, how long

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<v Speaker 1>is the ball out in the open, because it's only

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<v Speaker 1>there for whatever, a couple of middleseconds, but it's there

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<v Speaker 1>long enough with the grip that hitter will pick up

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<v Speaker 1>on those things, or somebody in the dugout will pick

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<v Speaker 1>up on that and they'll see arms slot. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's amazing. I remember asking Mariona Rivera, I said, could

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<v Speaker 1>you tell the hitter what's coming? And he said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was nobody could throw the pitch like that,

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<v Speaker 1>no one, but it was his ability with his hands

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<v Speaker 1>fingers that the release where he could say cutter and

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't do anything about him. A couple of phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls in here this day in sports history, Tom and Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Tom, what's on your mind today? Hey Tom? Thanks Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam and Denver joins us. Hi, Adam, what's on your

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<v Speaker 1>mind today? Six f Dan. I'm at home welcoming a

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<v Speaker 1>family member to our family that you can hear, and

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<v Speaker 1>the channel on the TV won't change since I've been here,

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<v Speaker 1>So here we are. But I was calling about the

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<v Speaker 1>technology and use in the Sprinter. Well give me, give

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<v Speaker 1>me the name and getting aim and height and wade

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<v Speaker 1>for your baby Mackenzie and she's twenty ounces and sixth ounds. Awesome, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. The Sprinters being affected by outdated technology in

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<v Speaker 1>his sport. PAULI hit it on the head. He's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being punished for being too good and the technology they're

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<v Speaker 1>using is outdated. Baseball chooses not to use technology that

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<v Speaker 1>would work, but this technology is outdated. Do we need

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<v Speaker 1>better cameras, better sensors? So it's affecting him and those

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<v Speaker 1>other runners? Yeah, I agree. I mean this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those you tune into it, and you're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>he just got disqualified and this is for the World Championships.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you want to make sure that you're fair

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<v Speaker 1>to your audience tuning in and then it's like, we

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<v Speaker 1>got faulty equipment here, and it feels like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like what happened to Devin Allen at the World

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<v Speaker 1>Track and Field Championships will change the sport because maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they now have better equipment at the starting line. Feels

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<v Speaker 1>like that's inevitable. Here this day in sports history, Paulie

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple the first unassisted triple play in Major

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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball Cleveland, Indy and shortstop Neil Ball in the

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<v Speaker 1>game against Boston That was nineteen o nine. Nineteen. Also

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen o nine, Cy Young earned his five hundreth career

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<v Speaker 1>victory and always the joke, Dan Shame nine, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty six, the Astronome became the first Major League

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<v Speaker 1>game played on total artificial turf. Prior to this game

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<v Speaker 1>at the astro in sixty six, the outfield consisted of

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<v Speaker 1>painted dirt and the infield was artificial turfs. Um, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what else? Do you have anything else? Interesting? The

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