Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Well, it looks like the Lakers are all
Speaker 1: on the same page. Now. Lebron, ad Russell, Westbrook all
Speaker 1: got on a phone call reportedly, and they're all committed
Speaker 1: to this upcoming season. That probably means we can't do
Speaker 1: anything with Russ. All right, let's get on a phone
Speaker 1: call and we'll get ready for training camp here. Also,
Speaker 1: there was a report yesterday there is a new team
Speaker 1: that could be interested in Kevin Durant, the Washington Wizards. Now,
Speaker 1: from what I'm told, Bradley Beale would not be involved
Speaker 1: in anything there. But once again, if I'm the Nets,
Speaker 1: I don't want to send him where he might want
Speaker 1: to go. He grew up in the Washington, DC area,
Speaker 1: but he grew up a Toronto Raptors fan. But now
Speaker 1: you have Washington. It feels like there are other teams
Speaker 1: that go. Well, if he's not going to go to
Speaker 1: Phoenix and not go to Miami, why don't we take
Speaker 1: a shot here? And it's quiet. That's when I get
Speaker 1: more interested. It's like something's going on here because normally,
Speaker 1: when people are talking, they're trying to generate conversation, they're
Speaker 1: trying to generate something here, and it felt like it
Speaker 1: was quiet with Kevin Durant, and it feels like this
Speaker 1: is going to be an ongoing process for a little while.
Speaker 1: Is Kevin Durant going to be traded? And what are
Speaker 1: you going to get? And you know, Brian winhorns the
Speaker 1: motherships at August, but that's not going to stop everybody
Speaker 1: from speculating over the next six weeks or so, five
Speaker 1: weeks or so, where is he going to go? What
Speaker 1: are you going to get in return? What's that mean
Speaker 1: for Kyrie? I've maintained all along. I think Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: should stay in Brooklyn. I've yet to hear a reason
Speaker 1: why he wants out, because they did accommodate him. Kyrie
Speaker 1: is the one who let him down. But they did
Speaker 1: everything that I think Kevin Durant asked them to do,
Speaker 1: except for they didn't extend Kyrie this time around. But
Speaker 1: you wanted Steve Nash. Steve Nash was out coached certainly
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and Katie may look around and go,
Speaker 1: I want to win another championship here. And I think
Speaker 1: the fact that Steph Curry just one one is not
Speaker 1: lost on Kevin Durant when it comes to bigger picture
Speaker 1: here of where I stand, because it was well, Steph
Speaker 1: needed Katie to win a couple of titles. Steph didn't
Speaker 1: need Katie this time around. And Lebron. Lebron's looking around
Speaker 1: going I got to get one more here. If we're
Speaker 1: going to make this an honest conversation and debate about
Speaker 1: me and Michael Jordan, I got to get it at
Speaker 1: least one more here? Can I get Kyrie? And does
Speaker 1: that mean that we're going to win another championship? You
Speaker 1: know Peyton manning any means necessary, all right? You know
Speaker 1: he had a dead arm and they won because of
Speaker 1: their defense. But he got another Super Bowl. So having
Speaker 1: two compared to one, you get Lebron another championship here,
Speaker 1: and then maybe it's strengthens your debate, your side of
Speaker 1: this when it comes to Lebron versus Michael Jordan. But
Speaker 1: I think Katie looks at this and says, where can
Speaker 1: I get a championship? Because I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: it here in Brooklyn? Can I go someplace else? What
Speaker 1: do they have to give up to get me? And
Speaker 1: then you wonder about the Rudy Gobert trade and what
Speaker 1: that means for anybody else of you know, big time value,
Speaker 1: Marquis value. What do you have to give up to
Speaker 1: get If you got Rudy Gobert for that, then what
Speaker 1: do you have to give up for Kevin Durant? What
Speaker 1: do you have to give up for Donovan Mitchell? You know,
Speaker 1: these are things that are going on now because the
Speaker 1: price of poker went up and Kevin Durant may start
Speaker 1: to look at other options here. Plus, he's got a
Speaker 1: he's under contract. If they say we're going to send
Speaker 1: you here, I don't know what his recourse is. They
Speaker 1: can say, look, I don't want to go there. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make it difficult for them. Kyrie, what do you
Speaker 1: do with him? What if nobody else is interested in
Speaker 1: him and the going price for him is one first
Speaker 1: round pick? Brooklyn probably will hold out for the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty seven in twenty twenty nine first round picks, but
Speaker 1: the Lakers are probably going there's nobody else interested. Here's
Speaker 1: the offer. Do you want to keep Kyrie? And at
Speaker 1: that point, if I'm Brooklyn, I say yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep him. I'll keep him and KD. Hey, you guys
Speaker 1: got us into this. You guys, get us out of this.
Speaker 1: You guys want, you know, Kyrie, to get a long
Speaker 1: term contract. Why don't you prove something? Why don't you
Speaker 1: show me something, because we're not going to give you away.
Speaker 1: We're not going to send you someplace so you benefit.
Speaker 1: We need to do something that's good for our organization.
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Kevin, you wanted this contract eleven months ago,
Speaker 1: you signed it. You wanted Steve Nash, We did everything
Speaker 1: you ask Why are you leaving? I'm still waiting for
Speaker 1: somebody to ask KD why. I've asked woj Mannix win Horse.
Speaker 1: Nobody has an answer like why he wants out? All right,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Already in progress. We have spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about college football. Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: All Star Game coming up tonight. Fun to see Homeland
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Speaker 1: The Deshaun Watson situation is fluid. The nfl PA and
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson have decided to challenge a full year suspension
Speaker 1: in court. If that happens. Mike Floria has been covering this,
Speaker 1: so is Charles Robinson of Yahoo's Sports. He reports that
Speaker 1: the NFL Players Association and Watson's camp already have decided
Speaker 1: to sue the league in federal court if the end
Speaker 1: result of the process is a full season suspension. Now
Speaker 1: there was a report that it might be somewhere between
Speaker 1: two games in eight games. So if you have an
Speaker 1: independent judge here, arbitrator, which I don't know how independent
Speaker 1: she can actually be. Feels like the NFL uses a
Speaker 1: few independent arbitrators. She's being paid by the NFL, so
Speaker 1: I don't know how independent, but whatever her rulings are,
Speaker 1: then you're going to have There's other cases that are
Speaker 1: going to complicate this. The suspensions of Tom Brady, Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott has also been brought up. Ben Roethlisberger has been
Speaker 1: brought up, Robert Kraft has been brought up. At least
Speaker 1: that's what I've been told. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can get a final decision that everybody's going to be
Speaker 1: happy with, Because if I'm the NFL, I appeal this,
Speaker 1: then I know that Deshaun Watson in his camp are
Speaker 1: going to then take this to a higher court. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: Let's say hypothetically the judge comes back tomorrow and says
Speaker 1: it's an eight game suspension for Deshaun Watson. If you're
Speaker 1: the NFL, would you let it go and take whatever
Speaker 1: heat you get that day even though it's not your decision.
Speaker 1: So the story is over at least in the near future.
Speaker 1: We move on a training camp, we get to football,
Speaker 1: we talk about other stuff. Would you or if you're
Speaker 1: at Roger Cadell, would you say Nope, not enough. I'm
Speaker 1: going to fight this. I would fight it. I don't
Speaker 1: think the NFL can go We need to move past
Speaker 1: this here. I think you still have to approach this
Speaker 1: as this is. This is a legendary decision. This is
Speaker 1: precedent setting. You know, we have to go for the
Speaker 1: max here. I still I've been told indefinite suspension. That's
Speaker 1: what the NFL would like to have because they want
Speaker 1: to make sure while we suspend you, we may suspend you,
Speaker 1: you know, longer. But if you decide that you want
Speaker 1: to appeal this, whether the league would appeal such an outcome,
Speaker 1: and whether the Commissioner or his DESIGNI would impose a
Speaker 1: dramatically longer ban remains to be seen, according to Mike Florio.
Speaker 1: But you know, as Florio points out, one of the
Speaker 1: stronger arguments on Deshaun Watson's behalf comes from the language
Speaker 1: that's in the collective bargaining agreement. Ownership and club or
Speaker 1: league management have traditionally been held to a higher standard
Speaker 1: and will be subject to more significant discipline. That has
Speaker 1: not been the case. And the Texans have settled thirty
Speaker 1: claims against them for their alleged role in Watson's alleged
Speaker 1: sexual misconduct. So what kind of discipline do the Texans face?
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything. So you settle on a FRIDAYGG
Speaker 1: thirty claims and then it's like, okay, we set it up,
Speaker 1: No need to worry, let's move on. Camp's open it up.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that are going on
Speaker 1: with this. But I still think that the NFL is
Speaker 1: going to look at this and say, I need there's
Speaker 1: a sweet spot of probably twelve games or more that
Speaker 1: the league would want, but indefinite suspension. Let's see if
Speaker 1: they fight it. And what Deshaun Watson's camp thinks about this? Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: have you heard any kind of time frames? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously there has to be some type of decision made
Speaker 1: before the season. I was heard, I was told this
Speaker 1: week that you could have a decision now. I reached
Speaker 1: out to a source this morning and he said, both
Speaker 1: sides refused to budge, that this is what the league wants,
Speaker 1: and this is what Deshaun Watson's camp wants. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the numbers are in there, but that's what
Speaker 1: I was told that both sides refuse to budge. Cleveland's
Speaker 1: training camp opens up a week from today. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the NFL goes, well, we got to be
Speaker 1: fair to the Browns or Deshaun Watson. They don't have to.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a judge. It's up to her
Speaker 1: and she. You know, the Browns knew what they were getting,
Speaker 1: that this could be a drawn out process and he
Speaker 1: might not even have him year one, and so did
Speaker 1: Deshaun wants it. But I'm waiting to hear if the
Speaker 1: NFL is going to punish the Jexans here, because this
Speaker 1: goes back to what Deshaun Watson's camp is arguing. It's like, uh,
Speaker 1: you hold teams accountable or owners accountable. Got Daniel Snyder
Speaker 1: in the South of France he's not coming up for
Speaker 1: air anytime soon. You're not gonna you know, he's gonna wait.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait till the fall. Probably you're gonna wait
Speaker 1: to see who's gonna be in power in politics there
Speaker 1: before he probably surfaces. Yeah, Poet, Daniel Snyder's like Tom
Speaker 1: Hanks in that movie The Terminal where he's just in
Speaker 1: them for years. He's gonna stay in that international terminal.
Speaker 1: Can't go anywhere, can't we talk to And I told
Speaker 1: you that I had somebody I know who was on
Speaker 1: the yacht in France. They said that Snyder never came up,
Speaker 1: you know, on the top deck. There. I have a
Speaker 1: source on a yacht. Oh what a great life I have. Hate.
Speaker 1: Did you see Daniel Snyder? You did not? Was he there?
Speaker 1: He was down below? That's a big yacht, big big yot.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if anybody was allowed to go downstairs.
Speaker 1: But so you're on Daniel Snyder's yacht. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you do on his yacht if Daniel Snyder's down
Speaker 1: below bow deck. But if it's to get together and
Speaker 1: the host doesn't show up, like, well, did he zoom
Speaker 1: up to the upper deck? I don't know, can you
Speaker 1: have a boat that big? Have you seen these things?
Speaker 1: I know? But just how ask me the Russian oligarch. Well,
Speaker 1: they're losing all of theirs. It's like, hey, you park this,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like double parking, and then they tow
Speaker 1: your car. That's what's going on with the Russian billionaires. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take that yacht. A couple of phone calls
Speaker 1: here Mike and Minnesota. Hi Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Good morning? And and Dan ets listen. I listen to
Speaker 1: radio shows. I listened to yours, and I listened to
Speaker 1: the Dry Heath on PGA Tour Radio. It's usually David Ferrety,
Speaker 1: McCord and Drew Stoltz. Last night, Ferrety wasn't on it,
Speaker 1: but they had Charles Barkley on him and McCord had
Speaker 1: this super candid conversation about going to broadcast. Listen. I
Speaker 1: haven't been a fan of the tour of the whole
Speaker 1: live thing, but if those three guys get together and
Speaker 1: they're broadcasting, I'm all in. I gotta listen to it
Speaker 1: because it's going to be a cut up, you know.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is maybe Barkley doesn't have to
Speaker 1: leave TNT. Maybe he stays at TNT with that kind
Speaker 1: of draw, Maybe TNT finally says, look, we'll pick up
Speaker 1: live Golf, and instead of them having to pay live golf,
Speaker 1: Live golf has got so much money, maybe they end
Speaker 1: up paying. Yeah, And I think that's that's a fair point, Mike.
Speaker 1: I was told that Gary McCord was approached a while
Speaker 1: ago about being an a list for the Live Tour,
Speaker 1: and maybe Charles doesn't have to leave TNT. And I
Speaker 1: guess he's going to get his offer on Wednesday, Wednesday night,
Speaker 1: and then we'll find out if it's enough for you know,
Speaker 1: attempt Charles to join Ken in Las Vegas. I can
Speaker 1: what's on your mind him? I'm nine to soft two thirty. Um.
Speaker 1: I was just on the comment everybody's criticizing the PJA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I s going to Live Tour, But they don't seem
Speaker 1: to mind any one other pro athletes leave their team
Speaker 1: for more money to another team. So is there supposed
Speaker 1: to be a difference, Well, they're not leaving the league.
Speaker 1: I mean, Tyree Kill didn't go to the CFL for
Speaker 1: the USFL. He went to the Dolphins. Look, everybody's got
Speaker 1: their opinions I don't. I don't want to. You know,
Speaker 1: sound sanctimonious here, you know, And I'm asked this all
Speaker 1: the time. It's the same different, same question, maybe sometimes
Speaker 1: for differently. Well, what would you do if they put
Speaker 1: that kind of money in front of you? I can
Speaker 1: tell you I would not do it. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care how much. There's not enough money that's
Speaker 1: going to change my life. I would not do it
Speaker 1: my stance. Now it's hypothetical. Let's say somebody puts twenty
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year in front of me, would
Speaker 1: I do it? Try it and the answer would be no.
Speaker 1: But that's me in my situation. Okay, that's all. It
Speaker 1: would be hard for me to face my two brothers
Speaker 1: in law who were there on nine eleven as fireman
Speaker 1: cleaning up and I mean cleaning up in the worst way,
Speaker 1: and they were there for three months. Couldn't do it
Speaker 1: for other reasons too, But that's me. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1: So if you want to keep sending and tweeting what
Speaker 1: you'd take, though, I would not take the money. If
Speaker 1: David Farady wants to do it, good for him, and
Speaker 1: there may be reasons that he has that are different. Charles.
Speaker 1: He wants to do it. If that's what you want
Speaker 1: to do, that's on you. But me, I would never.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it, couldn't. So that's the only way
Speaker 1: I can answer this because I keep getting this, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: what if they put that money I do it? Try
Speaker 1: me and I would say no, it won't change my
Speaker 1: life and I could not do that. Take a break.
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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Texas Tech
Speaker 1: Red Raiders football players each will get twenty five thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for one year. Name, image and likeness everybody. Everybody
Speaker 1: gets twenty five thousand dollars. The deal will be for
Speaker 1: all eighty five scholarship players plus fifteen of Texas Tech
Speaker 1: walk ons. And I guess this is an oil and
Speaker 1: gas executive who is a member of the Matador Club
Speaker 1: board of directors, a former Texas Tech offensive lineman, and
Speaker 1: you're expected to do community service and charitable work in
Speaker 1: the Lubbock area. Payments will start to go out the
Speaker 1: first week of August. Hey, you're getting a lot of
Speaker 1: these collectives, and that's groups where they just bring in
Speaker 1: the money. You're seeing this at Ohio State. I think
Speaker 1: they have half a million dollars that they've collected for
Speaker 1: some of the football players there. Yes point, I read
Speaker 1: a little about this this morning, and they say this
Speaker 1: could work for a school like Texas Tech, who may
Speaker 1: not get the number one overall prospect type guys who
Speaker 1: make the big, big dollars, but they could have a
Speaker 1: deeper roster of good players by this, everyone gets twenty
Speaker 1: five grand if you just joined Texas Tech football. We
Speaker 1: were just talking about you're going to have the haves
Speaker 1: and the have nots when it comes to college football
Speaker 1: and what happens to these other schools nonconference games that
Speaker 1: are so important for the athletic departments, for the school,
Speaker 1: the entire athletic program. And source just sent me a
Speaker 1: note whether the Big ten, SEC, etc. Will agree to
Speaker 1: an arrangement that most, if not all non conference games
Speaker 1: will be with teams from the Big two, three, four
Speaker 1: and the American Conference USA MAC Mountain Weston sun Belt,
Speaker 1: sun Belt. This allows for a level of peace among
Speaker 1: the FBS conferences, So still trying to do that where
Speaker 1: you have these non conference games. This likely sets the
Speaker 1: stage for college football FBS football, including bowl games, to
Speaker 1: be formally controlled outside of the NCAA. This has happened quickly,
Speaker 1: and you know, you got to find somebody to replace
Speaker 1: Mark Emritt. What's your job going to be at the
Speaker 1: head of the NCAA. And uh, that's that's within the
Speaker 1: next year or so. Yeah. So Nick Saban is his
Speaker 1: media time the past couple hours at the media day
Speaker 1: at SEC Media Days, he was asked if someone didn't know,
Speaker 1: tell me something about Nick Saban. We don't know. Nick
Speaker 1: Saban said, quote, how well I clean house? I make
Speaker 1: a list every day, I get a list, I vacuum.
Speaker 1: I pledge a refrigerator. Nobody knows how well I do
Speaker 1: these things. Now a lot of people are throwing the
Speaker 1: BS flag because Nick Saban said, I pledge the refrigerator,
Speaker 1: and pledges usually for wood products. But I did some
Speaker 1: research on this as journalists, and pledge does make a
Speaker 1: expert care stainless steel cleaner for refrigerators and other countertops.
Speaker 1: Back to you, Dan, Yeah, I can't picture Nick Saban
Speaker 1: with a can't a pledge in a rag in his hand,
Speaker 1: but he said it. Coachavan said it. Who needs the
Speaker 1: pledge that fridge every day? Anyway? Yeah? How you keep
Speaker 1: your How you keep your house that dirty every day?
Speaker 1: And then you keep it that clean? But it's that dirty,
Speaker 1: but you can be ocd and then you're like, I
Speaker 1: got to clean it every day. But I can imagine
Speaker 1: he's like, uh, have you seen my pledge? I gotta
Speaker 1: dude the refreegeriner again, here's the granite cleaner. This football
Speaker 1: stuff is fascinating. It's just you see grown ups act
Speaker 1: like children here because they're supposed to be the ones
Speaker 1: in charge here, and it's like, nope, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: all about the bottom line. It's greed and that's what
Speaker 1: it is. But you got, you know, the players wanting
Speaker 1: to get in on it. And I have no problem
Speaker 1: with name, image and likeness when when you see everything
Speaker 1: that's going on now, I hope that you have a
Speaker 1: softer spot in your heart for these players who are like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get mine while we can, because everybody else is.
Speaker 1: Kevin Millar, the MLB network analyst co host of Intentional Talk.
Speaker 1: He won a World Series with the Red Sox. He
Speaker 1: was at Dodgers Stadium last night home run derby covering
Speaker 1: the All Star Game. MLB's live All Star Game coverage
Speaker 1: from LA gets underway at noon Eastern, with Kevin Mular
Speaker 1: and Stephen Nelson co hosting Intentional Talk from Dodger Stadium
Speaker 1: at three thirty today. Great to talk to you, buddy.
Speaker 1: What kind of memories do you have playing at Dodgers Stadium.
Speaker 1: I have a video on my phone from a home
Speaker 1: run that I hit off Y say video voicemail off
Speaker 1: of chan Ho Park in nineteen ninety nine Dodgers Stadium.
Speaker 1: My dad got it off of Vince Scully's radio broadcast
Speaker 1: and he was doing lab work. And to this day,
Speaker 1: I still have it on my phone. Out of the
Speaker 1: ninety five different phones we've gone through, I have not
Speaker 1: lost that yet. So I do have to get down
Speaker 1: some kind of tape not to lose that. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't a walk off. It's just a no, just a
Speaker 1: home run, just a home run in a bullpen. As
Speaker 1: a little kid from La City Junior calls down the street,
Speaker 1: Dad had as Scully goes, that's a hard drive, and
Speaker 1: Dave Blackfield and I have to have that forever. That
Speaker 1: is great. Your last couple of years were Kershaw's first couple.
Speaker 1: Did you cross Pais with Kershaw? Never faced Kershaw? I
Speaker 1: mean he throws an invisible slider, obviously, the nasty curveball.
Speaker 1: Never faced him. I talked to Sean Casey about Kershaw.
Speaker 1: He had faced him. He said he's filthy, but I'd
Speaker 1: never crossed path. Wait to explain that, what kind of
Speaker 1: invisible slider. It's like, if you watched Kershaw pitch, right,
Speaker 1: we know the fastball, the big curveball. Then he has
Speaker 1: this little cutter that he throws, and it's that little
Speaker 1: cutter that just never gets there. It's down and in
Speaker 1: the writings it's been as pitch the last seven eight years.
Speaker 1: If he was just coming up, what kind of picture
Speaker 1: how would he be viewed if if he threw this,
Speaker 1: he's probably doesn't top out at what ninety four? Maybe five? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's not. I don't think he's near there.
Speaker 1: I think he's usually around ninety two, topping out pitches
Speaker 1: at eighty nine to ninety and then he's got that
Speaker 1: little cutter that that he's put into play as his
Speaker 1: velocity's gone down. Every pitcher has to figure out this
Speaker 1: thing as they get older. CC Sabatia was a power
Speaker 1: pitcher right ninety eight cutters and sliders and ninety eight,
Speaker 1: and then as he got older he had to learn
Speaker 1: a two steamer and a change up and start working
Speaker 1: a way off to play. That's one thing that Clayton's
Speaker 1: done is he's adjusted to the lack of power with
Speaker 1: the spatt well and steals able to compete. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I wonder how he would where he would get drafted.
Speaker 1: Let's say he's just coming up and given what we
Speaker 1: ask of pitchers now, or what we want from pitchers,
Speaker 1: you got to throw at least ninety five to get
Speaker 1: their attention, now, don't you. Yeah, it's weird. It's exactly
Speaker 1: the power. It's everything's power, right, everything's power, power, power, power,
Speaker 1: And you're right, what would he be? And you're looking
Speaker 1: at a kid, you know, coming out of Dallas, Texas
Speaker 1: throwing like his I mean, who knows if he's a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick because he doesn't have the ninety
Speaker 1: five in today's you know game? What about Jeter? You
Speaker 1: know you have the documentary on ESPN, but you know
Speaker 1: coming up he was slight, uh, didn't have a powerful arm,
Speaker 1: didn't hit for power. You know, he ran, but you
Speaker 1: know he's a first what doing top five or top
Speaker 1: six pick? But I wonder how we would view Jeter
Speaker 1: now coming out of Well, he's got the size, right,
Speaker 1: he's got hight, he's got speed, he can play defense.
Speaker 1: So I still think he's right where he needs to be.
Speaker 1: Isn't that first round? And I mean first round because
Speaker 1: if his ability to the stuff they judge, right, I
Speaker 1: didn't have a toolbox in that judge. I couldn't run, throw, hit,
Speaker 1: or feel Derek Jeter can do at all. But how
Speaker 1: do you hit a major league baseball without? Like, what
Speaker 1: do you have the ability? Hand eye coordination? Right is
Speaker 1: as a kid since two in the backyard with your
Speaker 1: dad and playing football, everybody has the ability. It's like
Speaker 1: a hockey player. I mean what they do on the ice.
Speaker 1: You and I get down the ice and slapstick, you
Speaker 1: know the stuff. It's the hand eye coordination. That's what
Speaker 1: a baseball player has. And that's one thing I could
Speaker 1: do is put a bat, you know, I mean a
Speaker 1: ball to the bat, and that was something you know,
Speaker 1: But as far as running the sixty yard dash seven
Speaker 1: six seven seven, throwing arm, it's probably a twenty. You know. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they're gonna put you right there in the average thing,
Speaker 1: but below average because you can't run and there's no range.
Speaker 1: So that's why I always say, you know, it's nice
Speaker 1: to see with your own eyes, but that six tool
Speaker 1: is somebody's you know, heart. Dustin Pedroia, he was a
Speaker 1: first rounder five foot eight, five nine, and then you
Speaker 1: look up, you know, years later he's a silver slugger.
Speaker 1: He's an MVP. Josiel two bay. That's what makes this
Speaker 1: game great. You know how many stolen bases you had
Speaker 1: in your career? Eight seven six seven? Thank you? Do
Speaker 1: you remember all of them? No? I remember I remember
Speaker 1: five of them, probably being I was the back end
Speaker 1: of steel. Big Thatcher went to third throw me on
Speaker 1: the second. Were you faster than Big Poppy? No? Big
Speaker 1: Poppy's a better athlete than he gets credit for. He
Speaker 1: could play basketball. Poppy's got quick little feed. They shuffle.
Speaker 1: He's got a shuffle like kind of run when you're
Speaker 1: top heavy. He probably missed leg day about six years
Speaker 1: of his life. And I was that guy, so he
Speaker 1: was a shuffler. How would you describe the reaction to
Speaker 1: Pooholes last night? Pretty awesome? I mean I was happy,
Speaker 1: Like Miguel Cabrera. We had him on the show yesterday,
Speaker 1: Albert Pool. When Commissioner calls Cabrera and you're looking at
Speaker 1: you know these guys, it's great. Yes, right, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of Latin players that looked up to these guys
Speaker 1: are their favorite players. That's what the All Star Game's about, right,
Speaker 1: It's it's the storyline of stuff Albert Pool holds. Obviously
Speaker 1: the back end of his career, Obviously the last few
Speaker 1: years of the back end. But this guy was top
Speaker 1: three right hands in the game. Ever, well, I still
Speaker 1: maintain when people say Mike Trout, boy, he's going to
Speaker 1: be one of the all time greats. I said a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, he should aspire to be Miguel Cabrera. Like,
Speaker 1: let's just start there. Because Miguel Cabrera five hundred home runs,
Speaker 1: three thousand hits, I mean, he one of the great
Speaker 1: Now he not, you know, as good all around as
Speaker 1: Mike Trout is. But you know, Mike Trout's thirty, Like
Speaker 1: you start to look at you know, they wanted to
Speaker 1: be May's and Mantle and Aaron and Miguel Cabrera is
Speaker 1: where I would probably start. What do you think of that?
Speaker 1: It's interesting, You're right, and to be great you have
Speaker 1: to be available. Now Mike Trout has been available. I'm
Speaker 1: just using you know this thing. We put guys as stars, right,
Speaker 1: Fernando Tatis Junior, what a talent, good looking you look
Speaker 1: at him play and wiring ways on the field. But
Speaker 1: Pool Holts Manny Ramirez, Miguel Cabrera. They did this for
Speaker 1: ten plus years at thirty and one hundred and three thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're available, they have a healthy baseball body, not
Speaker 1: that anybody wants to get hurt, but there's some guys
Speaker 1: that just get hurt. And I wonder what the conversation
Speaker 1: is going to be in five years about Otney that
Speaker 1: are they going to be? You know, they drafted all
Speaker 1: pitchers this last draft, Like what are they building to
Speaker 1: something that is going to actually come to fruition where
Speaker 1: there he's playing in playoff games. Yeah, it's a tough
Speaker 1: thing because that organization, it's almost you need to do
Speaker 1: a street sweeper kind of figuring a few things out.
Speaker 1: They spent money, they haven't spent money in the right way,
Speaker 1: so Gardi moreno and the Angels haven't spent money. But
Speaker 1: some of the stuff you're like, man, okay, geez. And
Speaker 1: then the Falters down they had never you know since
Speaker 1: the Jared Weavers and Escobars and you know when the
Speaker 1: Angels were good. But the starting staff that go into
Speaker 1: camp and go, yeah, I've got three big boys that
Speaker 1: can match up with the Walker Buelers and the Clayton
Speaker 1: Kershaws if we get to the big dance, the de
Speaker 1: Gram and the Max Chergors. If you get to the
Speaker 1: big dance, that's the question. Right, you can have a
Speaker 1: great regular season, but you gotta have two big boys
Speaker 1: to match up with anybody else's two big boys and
Speaker 1: the story and that's the postseason, Right, Yankees have a
Speaker 1: wonderful year going. If they get to the postseason and
Speaker 1: run into a bus stall, then the season's kind of like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: three one hundred and ten games, congratulations. Would you rather
Speaker 1: see Otani at the plate or on the mound? Man,
Speaker 1: if you're the opposition, If you're the opposition, yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: rather see him at the plate. I mean, I'm the
Speaker 1: mound when he's on. I mean, the Angels do their
Speaker 1: twenty year anniversary two thousand and two, John Lackey, you know,
Speaker 1: the boys are there and Otani I think, struck out
Speaker 1: thirteen at night, and it's an eye opener for the
Speaker 1: guys that maybe don't watch baseball time. They're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: what he does on that mound is pretty special. He's big,
Speaker 1: by the way, what Yeah, I can't imagine an All
Speaker 1: Star Game starting out with two guys bigger than Otani
Speaker 1: and Aaron Judge going one two against I'm telling you, yeah.
Speaker 1: Judge is six foot seven, two hundred and eighty five
Speaker 1: pounds of pierced steel. O'tani's six foot five, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: closer to six six, but six five runs. Well, but
Speaker 1: a big guy yesterday comes up. You know, I was
Speaker 1: trying to learn a phrase and I look up. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, these guys are huge, Danny, like you and
Speaker 1: I are normal sized dudes. These guys are like, wow. Well,
Speaker 1: it used to be if you were taller, you had
Speaker 1: the bigger strike zone, and you know that was always
Speaker 1: a detriment. There is that still the case with being
Speaker 1: taller and having a bigger Now everybody's swinging for the
Speaker 1: fences anyway, So what's it matter if you miss two?
Speaker 1: As long as you get one. It's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: You can strike out now it's four hundred times, like
Speaker 1: all your launch angles good, you're you know you're ATSI
Speaker 1: blast was one on nine on your seventeen great swings
Speaker 1: this year. But it's a crazy game now, it's different,
Speaker 1: the shifts are different. It's but it's it's fun. These
Speaker 1: players are good and the games are a good spot,
Speaker 1: a good spot. If not the Yankees versus the Dodgers
Speaker 1: in the World Series, then who Astros versus the Braves, Mets,
Speaker 1: Mets can get Buck Show Walter. I'll tell you right now, Mets,
Speaker 1: you know it was. It was cute coming up to
Speaker 1: the All Star break because I know one thing, the
Speaker 1: Mets have dominated dominating here. The Braves are just come
Speaker 1: and come and come. And if they would have been
Speaker 1: in second place, not that that would have been in
Speaker 1: the world, but that have been weird for the Mets,
Speaker 1: and they have been weird for Buck Show Walter. But
Speaker 1: I know one thing, Buck Show Walter was the I
Speaker 1: am the exact guy for the Mets. The Mets I
Speaker 1: put in that equation. Any problem with Soto turning down
Speaker 1: fifteen for four to forty, No, not at all. I
Speaker 1: don't have any problem with that. I have a problem
Speaker 1: with it getting out there. You know, who leaks this stuff?
Speaker 1: How does Ken Rosenthal get this story right? And that's
Speaker 1: it's a it's an organizational play maybe, or it's someone
Speaker 1: inside the scene. But honestly, gott if you and I
Speaker 1: are doing a deal and I choose to turn that
Speaker 1: down and you're the owner or you're Rizzo, or how
Speaker 1: does he get out? Well, you want Soto to look bad,
Speaker 1: don't you. That's the point. Right, So, now do you
Speaker 1: think what Soto can't look bad. He's a great kid.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's twenty three years old. Listen to him speak,
Speaker 1: watch him play the strike zone. The ability if you're
Speaker 1: paying guys well Max Schers or forty plus a million
Speaker 1: dollars to make twenty eight to thirty starts, If he's
Speaker 1: gonna make them all, where's Juan Soto? He's not twenty
Speaker 1: five million annual ballet. And that offer is four hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars more than you made in your
Speaker 1: entire career. Think about that, and that's why you and
Speaker 1: I are still working. He made what you made by
Speaker 1: the All Star break. Clayton makes that purpose. I had
Speaker 1: to get a job ninety seven minutes after I was retired.
Speaker 1: Y launched. Thank guy, I'd have been hitting fungos and
Speaker 1: soup balls you know wherever. I don't even know the
Speaker 1: shoot balls at South Dakota, Yeah somewhere. Did you ever
Speaker 1: like when you pulled up at Fenway in your car,
Speaker 1: given everybody else and what they were driving, like, did
Speaker 1: you could could I tell which one's Millar's car? No?
Speaker 1: I was paycheck to paycheck. You know, I have the
Speaker 1: Hummer to H two with the wheel and I had
Speaker 1: the system, and I had one five in the seats
Speaker 1: and I had the Harley, and you know, I was
Speaker 1: a dude. I didn't. I never I'll take this. My
Speaker 1: number was about eighty five thousand. I never spent one
Speaker 1: eighty you know, like everybody's got these one are these
Speaker 1: things called those Mercedes, those those those you probably have
Speaker 1: one gwagon, thank you. I can't spend two twelve on
Speaker 1: a car, right. I was always at sixty seven Camaro.
Speaker 1: I was always in that scene. The best car on
Speaker 1: the Red Sox World Series team was Who's Poppy? I
Speaker 1: mean when I told the story last night, I said, listen,
Speaker 1: we hosted a little scene for Poppy at Maruchi, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was pretty awesome with Tory Hunter showed up
Speaker 1: in albur Pool's fairbo. It was just the story of
Speaker 1: him coming to pick me up in like a Honda
Speaker 1: Civic or a Total Crolla. When I was with the
Speaker 1: Blue Jays and O nine, he was dressed in a
Speaker 1: collared shirt. He had no jewelry, he you know, and
Speaker 1: I joke around him and this is how we talk
Speaker 1: back then. So this isn't a bad bang. I said, dog,
Speaker 1: you're hitting one eighty was zero home run. You know
Speaker 1: you're dressed like a white boy. You look like me, Poppy,
Speaker 1: And I said, give me tomorrow. I want to be
Speaker 1: picked up in the Ferrari. I need the blaying, I
Speaker 1: need the necklace, I need all the watches the air,
Speaker 1: and he goes, bro, you're right, You're exactly right. He
Speaker 1: came and picking up the next day. He had the
Speaker 1: red Ferrari with Poppy on the front. He had every
Speaker 1: accessorized jewelry is worth one point five million on risk
Speaker 1: and risk, and he goes deep in the first inning.
Speaker 1: He looks at me and gives me to win. But
Speaker 1: I said, that's you. You get Poppy. You can't come
Speaker 1: dress like me up the golf course, Honda Civic. Have
Speaker 1: fun today. I know your coverage starts in Uh. Well,
Speaker 1: you guys gotta get ready, don't you coming up at noon.
Speaker 1: We'll live at two oh two. Okay, all right, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: great to go back in bed, all right, buddy, thank you,
Speaker 1: all right. Thanks. Kevin MLIR MLB network analyst and coverage.
Speaker 1: Live All Star Game coverage gets underway at noon Eastern
Speaker 1: Kevin Millar and intentional Talk from Dodger Stadium at three
Speaker 1: dirty today. All right, well take a break, I'll get
Speaker 1: phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow right
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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast
Speaker 1: close up shop on this Tuesday. What I love about
Speaker 1: the partnership with Peacock and you'll get the guests who
Speaker 1: zoom in. We just had Clayton Kershaw on and Kershaw
Speaker 1: was showing you how he will, you know, hold the
Speaker 1: ball on certain pitches. And so it's a bonus there
Speaker 1: that you could have somebody describe it and then when
Speaker 1: they show you what they do how they do it,
Speaker 1: because it you think, well, how do you make the
Speaker 1: ball do that? And even when you see it and
Speaker 1: you see the grip, there's still something about armslot, the angle.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you'll see somebody who's five to eight
Speaker 1: and they could throw the ball ninety five miles an hour.
Speaker 1: Somebody who's six five who throws it, you know, eighty
Speaker 1: six miles an hour. Just that the science involved in it.
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated with that. So I remember in high school,
Speaker 1: you'd face somebody and you go, that guy doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he's that big, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you could hear him warming up, and then you're like, damn,
Speaker 1: he's doing hard, Like how's he throwing so hard. It's
Speaker 1: like when you see a golfer and you go, how
Speaker 1: does he hit it so far? Weighs one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty five pounds. It's just science that's involved in it.
Speaker 1: Technology that's involved in it. Yeah. Point. I remember about
Speaker 1: six seven years ago, we had Pager Martinez The Great
Speaker 1: Picture in studio and we're all like, he's very normal
Speaker 1: sized person. I'm what, he can't be six foote eighty five.
Speaker 1: He's a little heavier now. But when he played, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he showed us a couple of things. He was
Speaker 1: talking about how when you're in your pitching motion, you're
Speaker 1: trying to hide your hand as long as possible so
Speaker 1: they can't see how you're holding the ball, so you
Speaker 1: tuck it behind your hip, behind your shoulder, anywhere to
Speaker 1: hide the ball. Yes, And they would talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: when you get ready to deliver the ball, how long
Speaker 1: is the ball out in the open, because it's only
Speaker 1: there for whatever, a couple of middleseconds, but it's there
Speaker 1: long enough with the grip that hitter will pick up
Speaker 1: on those things, or somebody in the dugout will pick
Speaker 1: up on that and they'll see arms slot. And that's
Speaker 1: what's amazing. I remember asking Mariona Rivera, I said, could
Speaker 1: you tell the hitter what's coming? And he said yes,
Speaker 1: because it was nobody could throw the pitch like that,
Speaker 1: no one, but it was his ability with his hands
Speaker 1: fingers that the release where he could say cutter and
Speaker 1: you couldn't do anything about him. A couple of phone
Speaker 1: calls in here this day in sports history, Tom and Ohio.
Speaker 1: Hi Tom, what's on your mind today? Hey Tom? Thanks Tom.
Speaker 1: Adam and Denver joins us. Hi, Adam, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Six f Dan. I'm at home welcoming a
Speaker 1: family member to our family that you can hear, and
Speaker 1: the channel on the TV won't change since I've been here,
Speaker 1: So here we are. But I was calling about the
Speaker 1: technology and use in the Sprinter. Well give me, give
Speaker 1: me the name and getting aim and height and wade
Speaker 1: for your baby Mackenzie and she's twenty ounces and sixth ounds. Awesome, congratulations,
Speaker 1: thank you. The Sprinters being affected by outdated technology in
Speaker 1: his sport. PAULI hit it on the head. He's, you know,
Speaker 1: being punished for being too good and the technology they're
Speaker 1: using is outdated. Baseball chooses not to use technology that
Speaker 1: would work, but this technology is outdated. Do we need
Speaker 1: better cameras, better sensors? So it's affecting him and those
Speaker 1: other runners? Yeah, I agree. I mean this is one
Speaker 1: of those you tune into it, and you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: he just got disqualified and this is for the World Championships.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to make sure that you're fair
Speaker 1: to your audience tuning in and then it's like, we
Speaker 1: got faulty equipment here, and it feels like that. It
Speaker 1: feels like what happened to Devin Allen at the World
Speaker 1: Track and Field Championships will change the sport because maybe
Speaker 1: they now have better equipment at the starting line. Feels
Speaker 1: like that's inevitable. Here this day in sports history, Paulie
Speaker 1: got a couple the first unassisted triple play in Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball Cleveland, Indy and shortstop Neil Ball in the
Speaker 1: game against Boston That was nineteen o nine. Nineteen. Also
Speaker 1: nineteen o nine, Cy Young earned his five hundreth career
Speaker 1: victory and always the joke, Dan Shame nine, let's see
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, the Astronome became the first Major League
Speaker 1: game played on total artificial turf. Prior to this game
Speaker 1: at the astro in sixty six, the outfield consisted of
Speaker 1: painted dirt and the infield was artificial turfs. Um, let's
Speaker 1: see what else? Do you have anything else? Interesting? The
Speaker 1: Kingdom was declared unsay. Four ceiling tiles fell into the
Speaker 1: stands for seeing the Mariners play their next twenty games
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