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Speaker 1: putting together perhaps for a championship team, another All Pro season,

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Speaker 1: because that's on the far end of it for him. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Then he heard him earlier in camp say he believes

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Speaker 1: he's got three to four or more good years in him.

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Speaker 1: And this is his age thirty one season, right, And

434
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Speaker 1: we've seen guys in there at the safety position play

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Speaker 1: well into their thirties. I mean Rod Woodson made the

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Speaker 1: move from cornerback, but he played for a long time,

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Speaker 1: like into his mid thirty Jordan Poyer is a guy

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Speaker 1: you got to think thirty one, thirty two, thirty three,

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Speaker 1: thirty four this year and three more at least and

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Speaker 1: then see right, I just don't The interesting part of

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Speaker 1: that equation is Jikwon Johnson though, because Jakwan Johnson has

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Speaker 1: been playing the bulk of the preseason with Jordan Poyer injured,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's availed himself quite well. I think

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Speaker 1: he's played. I even told him in the locker room, hey,

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Speaker 1: nice preseason you put together, man, you did a really

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Speaker 1: nice job. And we talked to Jukwon Johnson in the

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Speaker 1: locker room today as well, and we'll have some of

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Speaker 1: that sound for you in a little bit here after

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Speaker 1: the break. Um, I think he's proven that he's starting caliber.

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Speaker 1: So does that shift the conversation too, that's the other Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's well because if you're if you're even entertaining the thought,

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Speaker 1: if you're even entertaining the thought of moving on from poor,

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Speaker 1: you better have an answer at that position, because those

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Speaker 1: are big shoes. If that's why at this time of

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Speaker 1: years so interesting. Nobody wants to cut anybody if they

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Speaker 1: haven't got somebody better or as good waiting, at least

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Speaker 1: someone with encouraging potential, right, at least a top end, right,

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Speaker 1: you don't you don't want to take a step backwards,

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Speaker 1: particularly on a team. This is a Super Bowl pick, right,

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Speaker 1: So you know the key to that whole thing is

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Speaker 1: Jaquon Johnson. How good did he play? And you know

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Speaker 1: safety plays, you know, I mean there's still another element

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Speaker 1: to this too, because if what we anticipate does come

464
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Speaker 1: to pass and tradevious White goes on reserve pup, you

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna be without one of those guys that's

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Speaker 1: been the bedrock of the secondary for the last four

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Speaker 1: or five years to him, are you if you get

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Speaker 1: if you're entertaining moving on from Poyer, you're gonna part

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Speaker 1: with half of that group or forty percent of that

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Speaker 1: group if you count Tarren Johnson as part of that,

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Speaker 1: which you probably should, and in light of how much

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Speaker 1: he plays, yeah, that's a big I think that's a

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Speaker 1: big lift. You are really counting on your pass rush too,

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Speaker 1: So well, yeah, there are a lot I mean you

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Speaker 1: said it. There's a lot of moving parts and there

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Speaker 1: are some of which I'm just thinking about now. You know,

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Speaker 1: in light of what could happen with Trudevious White and

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Speaker 1: his row right, that's sure. You got five guys back

479
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: there that started a predominance of that. You got Tredavious White, uh,

480
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: Dane tarn Johnson, pour Year in hide. Now Levi Wallace

481
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Speaker 1: was over there last year. He's gone. But Dave Jackons

482
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Speaker 1: Jackson's third year. Dan Jackson's in there, and you feel

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Speaker 1: like he'sable. He's part of the furniture. He's part of

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Speaker 1: that group that went went deep last year. So you

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Speaker 1: feel good about it. But then you know Tardavius is

486
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Speaker 1: down and now pour Year maybe down. If you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're thinking about if that's the scenario of the

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Speaker 1: road you're gonna head down. I don't know. It's a lot,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's a risk. And and and this

490
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Speaker 1: year it's like not this year, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's always something, but still this year it's like not, no,

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Speaker 1: not right now. I know. But you know, sometimes push

493
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Speaker 1: comes to shove, as we know in this business, and

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Speaker 1: we've seen it happen before. Yeah, I mean, you see,

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Speaker 1: nobody ever thought the Packers were gonna trade Brett Farve. Yeah,

496
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Speaker 1: that's true, you know what I mean. So Joe montag

497
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: stranger things. If yeah, Joe montagco stranger things have happened,

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Speaker 1: Joe Namath finished his career with the Chargers or the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, nine is finished with the Chargers. It

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first or last time that's something like

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Speaker 1: that took place. I'll have to keep our ear to

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Speaker 1: the ground on that. I'm trying to think if we

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Speaker 1: had any other NFL news and notes here, Oh, the

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo thing, what did you think of that? Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo least to a restructured one year contract that puts

506
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Speaker 1: six and a half million guaranteed base salary on him

507
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: and another five hundred K and roster bonuses. Playing time

508
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Speaker 1: bonuses can get it up to about nine million, for

509
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Speaker 1: a total of sixteen million if all bonuses are reached.

510
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Speaker 1: His restructured contract also includes a no trade and a

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Speaker 1: no tag clause that ensures Garoppolo will beat the backup

512
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Speaker 1: for Trey Lance this season. It's a good idea, and plus,

513
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Speaker 1: all the scenarios we heard leading up to this never included, hey,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy just take a pay cut and play back. It

515
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Speaker 1: was all like Jimmy's not gonna play backup making whatever

516
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: it was, thirty millions. Yeah, But now that if he

517
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Speaker 1: was willing to take a backup a pay cut, that's

518
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Speaker 1: gold for the Niners. It helps him out and that's

519
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: the way it should be. It keeps him in line financially.

520
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: And you don't have this, you know, this big cap

521
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: hit sitting there doing nothing. On a human standpoint, I

522
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: think most people outside of football would be surprised at

523
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Speaker 1: how smooth it'll go. I wonder. I know people say, well,

524
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Speaker 1: Jimmy's gonna be looking over his shoulder, and now it

525
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be like that. It ain't gonna be Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan telling Lance or Trey Lance like, hey, you mess

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Speaker 1: up one time, I'm Jimmy's in here. It's not gonna

528
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: be like that either. Now, all those guys are gonna

529
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Speaker 1: be in the room together trying to win football games,

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Speaker 1: with Trey Lance playing quarterback, Kyle Shannon calling the plays

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Speaker 1: and all the things that go into that. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: hang in there to get their their family. So don't

533
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Speaker 1: think that it's gonna be some sort of dysfunctional, emotional

534
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: human thing where these guys don't like each other, one

535
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: of us trying to jockey for position. That's not going

536
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Speaker 1: to happen. They would never have agreed to this if

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Speaker 1: they thought that would be a case. I think deep down,

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00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: Jimmy g is fine with being a backup, and that's

539
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Speaker 1: just me saying even if he's not, he knows that

540
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: this is the time he can use to get better

541
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: and he's gonna play his cards next year, right, which

542
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: is why the no tag claus is in there. That's

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Speaker 1: the fat that I think the Niners would have tagged

544
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: him next year anyway in light of the direction they're going,

545
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Speaker 1: but it ensures that he will hit free agency next

546
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Speaker 1: year when he'll have a field of thirty one other teams,

547
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, seek his services. Yeah, and so I think

548
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: really smart moved by the Niners. You got a guy

549
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: that's in the room. Nothing is gonna be you know,

550
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: there's no upheaval trying to make new friends, to get

551
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Speaker 1: new co works with. Those two guys already have probably

552
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: a very good working relationship, Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo,

553
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: probably a very good working relationship. So they're gonna continue that.

554
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: And the switch of the roles. And I know, you

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00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: get a lot of people saying the people who are

556
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: who are saying, Wow, this is unbelievable that these guys

557
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: are gonna switch places and one now, one's gonna be

558
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: a starter, one's gonna be back up, and they're gonna

559
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: flip it over. And that's from guys who didn't play.

560
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: When you're on a team that's healthy and went to

561
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Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game a year ago, and you're gonna

562
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: make these moves. They're all in it all together. They're

563
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: gonna make it work, and they're gonna and they're gonna

564
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Speaker 1: try and be better for it. So the human side

565
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: of that thing is played up by people who have

566
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Speaker 1: never been through that. When you're a teammate, you're gonna

567
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: make that work. And it's it's gonna be good for

568
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: the Niners. I think it's a good move. Yeah. Last note,

569
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Speaker 1: Ravens signed running back Kenyan Drake, who was released by

570
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Speaker 1: the Raiders recently. They've got a little bit of a

571
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Speaker 1: questionable running back situation. Their top back JK. Dobbins not

572
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot to be ready for Week one, so Kenyan

573
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Speaker 1: Drake a little bit of extra insurance at the running

574
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: back position for the Ravens going forward. Surprise, surprise, they

575
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Speaker 1: sign another Alabama product. That seems to be the way

576
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: it goes ever since Ozzie and Newsom has been there.

577
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: Who's an Alabama product himself. We have to take a

578
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Speaker 1: break here. When we come back sound from the locker

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Speaker 1: room following practice, we got Jakwan Johnson, Quentin Morris, Bayalin

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Speaker 1: Specter and others coming your way here on One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalaida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Skive Casker

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Speaker 1: with you here on a Tuesday. And before we get

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Speaker 1: into the sound around the locker room. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: remind you Twitter poll today, question today, what Bill's roster

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Speaker 1: move would surprise you the most? Let us know at

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Speaker 1: eight o three oh five fifty or one eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty open line for you there,

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Speaker 1: he can hit us up on the tweet sheet at one.

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Speaker 1: Bills Live did get Awaile did get around the locker

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Speaker 1: room with the video team today after practice this morning,

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Speaker 1: and among the players we got an opportunity to speak

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Speaker 1: with was tight end Quintin Morris, who was here for

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Speaker 1: practice this morning. So things looking up for his chances

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Speaker 1: of being on the roster, especially with the reports out

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Speaker 1: there about O. J. Howard. So here is Quintin Morris.

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Speaker 1: So what's it been like for you for the last

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Speaker 1: I don't know, forty eight hours maybe even going back

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Speaker 1: all through training camp and then getting to this point

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Speaker 1: the feeling, M Yeah, it's just been I mean a

601
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: crazy process, even going back to my rookie year, just

602
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, stand to the grind. You know, got practice

603
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Speaker 1: qua last year and I mean it was just like

604
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, you know this is where I stand.

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Speaker 1: That's what I got to do in the off season.

606
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: I got to really attack it, if you know. And

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00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: then I came up for that one game and I

608
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: was just like, I got a little taste of, you know,

609
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: being there, and I was like, man, like, I gotta

610
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to get back here. So really

611
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: just attacking the off season and then coming in and

612
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: try to make sure I take advantage of my opportunities

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Speaker 1: or whatever I can to help, you know, the team,

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Speaker 1: and along the way, you know, hopefully do enough to

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Speaker 1: prove that, you know, I deserve to be on the road.

616
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Speaker 1: What was the biggest thing you had to work on

617
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Speaker 1: to get to that next level? For me, I think

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Speaker 1: probably one of the key aspects that I tried to

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Speaker 1: attack in the off season was my blocking, just showing

620
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Speaker 1: that I could be a complete tight end. I just

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Speaker 1: go out there knowing I have a receiver background and

622
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Speaker 1: being able to run routes, but going out there and

623
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Speaker 1: be able to take care of the you know, the

624
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Speaker 1: physical piece of it, and you know, put two and

625
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Speaker 1: two together to be a complete tight end. You guys

626
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Speaker 1: were teammates for the last couple months. But what does

627
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Speaker 1: it mean to kind of beat out a former first

628
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Speaker 1: round draft pick? And oh ju, I mean, really, it's

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Speaker 1: just like every day. I mean, I don't feel like I,

630
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Speaker 1: you know, really beat anybody. I feel like every day

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Speaker 1: it's like you got to come in and you know,

632
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Speaker 1: work to stay. So I mean even now it's like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I make the team, but I

634
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: feel like every day it's like, you know, you gotta

635
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: put your best foot forward. Because I was just talking

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Speaker 1: to d dogs like any day, you know, nothing's promising.

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Speaker 1: You could just you could be here one minute and

638
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: you could be going the next. So so you pull

639
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Speaker 1: up yesterday, where are you healthwise right now? I'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I just you know, was running around, tweaking

641
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: my hand, streaming a little bit. But I feel fine.

642
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I was on the bike this morning,

643
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: jogging around, So I feel fine. I don't think it's

644
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: anything serious, No I R or anything potentially coming. I know.

645
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean I had a R hour and you know,

646
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: getting feedback from the doctors. But I mean again, I

647
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: feel fine. So do you think you'll miss today, say

648
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: you'll miss much practice time or like anything back? Um,

649
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: not sure yet. Um, but obviously I didn't practice today

650
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: just you know, obviously we got these few days coming

651
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: up we're off practice, so just using that time to

652
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: take care of my body and you know, see where

653
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: we go from there? Is there something you did the

654
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: first phone call to after you find out you're you

655
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: made the team. I mean again, I still feel like

656
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I'm you know, nothing's really saiding something. I man, I

657
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: think they got till four o'clock. So I'm just I mean,

658
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: it's all a new experience for me. So I haven't

659
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: really did too much and you know it just coming

660
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: off the field, I'm just you know, focused on really

661
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: just getting healthy and you know, making sure if I

662
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: am on the roster, then I'm here to say all right.

663
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: So that's Quintin Morris and he's waiting until four o'clock.

664
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Speaker 1: He ain't believe in anything until he sees, he knows

665
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: think about it. He was out of practice squad last year. Yeah,

666
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: he was on there last year and he mentioned the

667
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: fact that he got and we were trying to think

668
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: of which game he got activated four last year. He

669
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: got up there, got to play, you know, got a

670
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: chance to be on the roster, see what it was

671
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: like in an actual NFL game, And you could hear

672
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: the effect that had on him of man, I gotta

673
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: stay right here. You know, and and it really fired

674
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: and fueled his off season, and you could You and

675
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: I both during training camp and OTAs were like, that

676
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: guy's different and hence now it looks like to us

677
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: he's in a spot where he may be the last

678
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: guy cut or he's on the roster. I think he

679
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: certainly flashed more than O. J. Howard did. He demonstrated

680
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: the athleticism having been a former wide receiver and the hands.

681
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: He's always had the good above average athleticism for the

682
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: tight end position having been a former wide receiver, and

683
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: his hands have always been there as well. The question was,

684
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: as he pointed out, his blocking, can you be a

685
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: complete complete tight end and block? And that's what he

686
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: worked on this offseason and he did so well that

687
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: the coaching staff not only felt comfortable putting him up

688
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage as an inline tight end,

689
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: they were also lining him up in the backfield through

690
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: the course of the preseason using him as a move

691
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: tight end. You know times, I mean, you could speak

692
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: to this better than I can. Steve. You put a

693
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: tight end on the line and you block whatever's in

694
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: front of you. That's far easier than lining up in

695
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: the backfield and block something on the move in space. Right,

696
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: So that I think is an indication as to how

697
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: far he's come as a blocker in one offseason, right Exactly.

698
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: It's it's one thing to line it up and push

699
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: on a guy that's right there in front of you,

700
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: but another to have the athleticism and get a guy

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00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: in a little bit of space plus move across the formation.

702
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: And I think this as well. For instance, Ken Dorsey's

703
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: got to be looking at this guy going you know,

704
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: we line him up in line a couple of times

705
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: and then move him and we do well enough, when

706
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: he's in line, they're gonna muscle up and and put

707
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: some bigs out there and treat him like a tight end.

708
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: And if they do that, we got him because then

709
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: we just wing him off, motion him out to the numbers,

710
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: and you know, a fat guy's got to follow him

711
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: and you and they win. You know, you win that matchup.

712
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, that gets his ability to be physical down

713
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: inside is the difference maker because he's, as you said,

714
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: the stuff that's a given is the hands and the

715
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: route running and the athleticism. So and it's that's why

716
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: the tight end position is so difficult to find guys

717
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: that can do it. You know, either they're a finesse

718
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: guy like a Mike Gasicki down in Miami, who's a

719
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: wide receiver well, or they're or they're a big bruiser

720
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: like you know Pete metz Lars used to be in Buffalo.

721
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: You know, a big like an offensive tackle. But if

722
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: you want to ask yourself, why do so many undrafted

723
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: free agents stay in this league as long as they do?

724
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: Think about the approach of Quint Morris and think about

725
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: the approach of Mike Gasicki, a second round draft pick.

726
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: Mike Kisicki has never worked to become a better blocker

727
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: because he thinks he's the Cats me out as a

728
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: receiving tight end. Quint Morris in one off season became

729
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: a difference making blocker enough to make a fifty three

730
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: man roster in this league. That's the different being undrafted

731
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: from a That's the difference. There's a sense of entitlement.

732
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes with high draft choices. They don't feel they need

733
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: to work on the things to make them more and

734
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: they get something in their mind. You can't convince them otherwise.

735
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: They say, listen, I'm going to be a receiving tight end.

736
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be that guy, that guy, that guy, and

737
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: when in reality, the team's sitting there gonna we need more.

738
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: And even though we got franchise and he's gonna make

739
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: almost eleven million dollars this year, they're trying to move

740
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: him off the roster. Yeah, that's the difference. And it's

741
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: a stark difference when you think about it. You can't

742
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: at some point still in the NFL, and you know,

743
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: this is a cliche to say it, at some point

744
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: you still have to line up and run the ball

745
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: in this league. Yeah, it's not like you used to,

746
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: but at some point it becomes very very important, and

747
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: you need guys that can do it. And if they're

748
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: not willing to do it, that's the first step. That's

749
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: the first step down the road to defeat. From one

750
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: tight end to another, we go from Quentin Morris to

751
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney, who addressed the uncertainty of his roster status.

752
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: He was at practice this morning, though, But here is Tommy,

753
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: that's kind of out of your hands. You just gotta,

754
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, show up every day in camp and give

755
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: your best and hopefully that puts in the best edition.

756
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: You know, for that time. I mean, when you go

757
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty and what you went through, did

758
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: you ever think you'd be back in this position? Yeah,

759
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: that's what I try to keep in tality wise. Obviously

760
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: there was some doubt just naturally what's everything that happened,

761
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: But everybody here was great, and we you know, came

762
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: to the mindset and working on those little things so

763
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: that when I did come back, it was about to

764
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: be a position like this. How do you feel this

765
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: camp went? From an observer standpoint, it seemed like you're

766
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: making more plays than we've seen. Yeah, felt good. Um,

767
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, we had a lot of competition in here,

768
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: so in the tight end room, so naturally everybody's gonna

769
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: bring their best and felt good. You know, some ups

770
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: and downs kind of just go out there and play football,

771
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: but you know, it felt pretty good. They bring in

772
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: Oj Howard of course this offseason, and you know, how

773
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: much do you have to did you have to just

774
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: put that in the back of your mind and go,

775
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, I just got to do what I have

776
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, that's all you can do, you know

777
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's um, there's always gonna be competition

778
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: in the league. It's the best of the best. So

779
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: whoever they bring in, it's gonna be a good player,

780
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: whether somebody you know or you don't, and so it

781
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: is a really good player. So um, just kind of

782
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: really put too much into it, like you said, just

783
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: putting the back of mind, and whether he's somebody's there

784
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: or not, you just gotta go and put your best

785
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: foot forward every day because regardless that there's somebody you're not,

786
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: if you're doing it, you're here if you're not. All right.

787
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: That's Tommy Sweeney talking to the media after practice this morning.

788
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: He was here as of this morning. Doesn't name. Whether

789
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: that changes, I guess remains to be seen. We've seen

790
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: the reports out there about Oj Howard not being released

791
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: by the team. It's not official, so we don't know yet.

792
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: But Sweeney was here for practice, working and he put

793
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: it out there pretty simply. You're either here because you're

794
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: putting the work in, or you're not here. And sometimes

795
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: you put the work in, it's still not good enough

796
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: to make a roster. Tough decisions to make for everybody involved.

797
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: Break time here when Steve and I come back. More

798
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: on the roster decisions that have to be made. Maybe

799
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,719
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819
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: won't make it. He's going based on the reports that

820
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: are out there right now. I thought both played well

821
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: and deserved a shot. I hope they make. The practice

822
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: squad also surprised Bobby Hard made it. He was out

823
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: there this morning at practice. He's like resputin. We can't

824
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: get rid of him. I know, he showed versatility and

825
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,359
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00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Bobby Hart. When he came in was a year ago

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00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: or two years ago. They were they needed him, they

828
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: were desperate. They needed a left tackle that week. So

829
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: they come in, bring him in, plug him in, and

830
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: he was put under the most under the most unfair circumstances.

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00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: They threw him on the lineup and he struggled. People

832
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 1: saw it. I mean even you know, I'm gonna say even,

833
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: but even casual fans could see that he was struggling.

834
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: He was put into an impossible situation. Left the team,

835
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: went to someplace else, and then he came back. And

836
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: here's what happened. He worked hard at getting better, no

837
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: question to the guy's a hard work. He's got all

838
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: great attitude. He has done nothing but give them anything

839
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: he could give him, great attitude, great person, all that stuff.

840
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: So that's a plus. So they know that's in. There's

841
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: a good teammate, he helps the guys around him, all

842
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: of that now right now, and with a good attitude,

843
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: which is why they could plug him at left tackling

844
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: hidden squawk even though he played right tackle his whole career.

845
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: Right so now at this point of his life in

846
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: his career, he's a guard. They brought him back, said,

847
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: plugged him in and just gave him a chance to

848
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: be successful at one spot instead of learning four spots.

849
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: Right guard, left guard, right tackle, left tackle. They said,

850
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: play this spot, see if you can help us. And

851
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: he's played very well in this preseason coach McDermott said

852
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: it all. Yeah. They asked about well, he was asked

853
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: point blank, I think it was John Scott from Spectrum

854
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: and News asked him how much has Bobby Hart improved

855
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: this training camp and coach McDermott used the word immensely. Well,

856
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: he has improved immensely. Now that doesn't just throw bouquets out.

857
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: There's two tens in that bouquet that he throws one.

858
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: There is a big compliment and there's something uncharacteristically positive

859
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: from a coaching training camp where nobody's made the team yet.

860
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Second is an acknowledgement that the guy needed to improve, right,

861
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: So the fact that he did right once coach said that,

862
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: it's like sixty eight on the roster, right, I mean

863
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: that's and he has had a good camp, he really has.

864
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: I think guard's a perfect spot for him. Yeah, he's

865
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: a big body, heavy dude, and he's played better. Now

866
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna be all world, because he's not.

867
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: He's he's a backup on this team now. Yeah, and

868
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: he does have some um experience playing all those spots.

869
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: But I think they got him down inside as a

870
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: backup to you know, both guards probably, And I think

871
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: what would happen in my scenario, depending on who the

872
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: backup center is. I think the backup center might be

873
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: Ricky Bates, right, Ryan Bates right now? Yeah, he's him

874
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: or a Greg Mans if Man's man, depending if Man's

875
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: had an injury, we haven't seen him out of practice.

876
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: If Man's is in the mix, it's him. If it's not,

877
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: it's it's Bates. Because Bates when they got him in

878
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: the trade from Philly a couple of three years ago

879
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: at all five spots, and he was a backup last

880
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: year up until Bucker goes down, and he backed up

881
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: both guards and the center. So I think Bates would

882
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: slide to center and Bobby Hart would go in at

883
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: one of the guards right on the other guards. And

884
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: so then you've got your swing tackles in Kessin Berry Brown, whoever,

885
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: the whoever the starter is, Um and anybody else who

886
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: they've got, you know, thinking about throwing in there as well.

887
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: So Um bates elevation to the starting role as guard,

888
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: I think does put them in a position where they

889
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: got their starting or their backup center on the field

890
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: all the time as a garden what it's kind of

891
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: dangerous game to play. What does it say about Aaron

892
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: Kromer When a guy entering his eighth NFL season, in

893
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: the eyes of the head coach, has improved immensely in

894
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: his eighth season, What does that say about offensive line

895
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: coach Aaron Kromer. I'll say this early on, the early

896
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: returns on Aaron Cromer are like, Wow, he's a difference maker. Yeah,

897
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: And that's an offensive line coach. And I'll say this,

898
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: there are other guys around the league who have been

899
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: like that. Joey Allisandris was a guy like that. Jodey

900
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: Allisandris is a guy like that. And you know who

901
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: else is was Dante Scarneckia in New England. Look at

902
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: what they're dealing with. He retired and the franchise is

903
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: on fire. Yeah, the wheels fell off of the entire

904
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: franchise is a dumpster fire right now. They can't they

905
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: can't protect, they can't run block either if they can't

906
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: do anything up there. And so there are guys like

907
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: that who are difference makers. And Kromer and the early

908
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: going is what a difference he's made. And I like

909
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: Derek Washington last year, who's now with the Giants. I

910
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: thought he was a great coach. Kromer, for whatever reason,

911
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: it's just Bobby Johnson, Bobby Johnson, not Washington. Bobby Johnson

912
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: was a really good coach and guys liked him, played

913
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: hard for him. Now of course he's in washing in

914
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 1: New York with the Giants. But Kromer has been I think,

915
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: significantly different for whatever reason than Bobby Johnson. Speaking of

916
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: the Giants, their fifty three man roster has been released

917
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: and Brian Dable. Steve keeps seven wide receivers on the

918
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: fifty three at least as it shakes out in the

919
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: early going. A lot of draft choices on there, along

920
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: with some free agent ads Kenny Golladay, Sterling Shepherd who

921
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: just came back from injury, Kadarius Tony, first round draft choice,

922
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: wan Dale Robinson, this year's third round pick, Darius Slayton.

923
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: Remember David sils when we had him here as an

924
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: undrafted He made the roster, as did Richie James as

925
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: the seventh wide receivers. So some interesting decisions down there

926
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: for the Giants fifty three man roster. We take a break.

927
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: When we come back, more sound from the locker room

928
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: and more of your thoughts on what you believe would

929
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: be the most surprising roster move for the Bills, as

930
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: those decisions will be official come four pm this afternoon.

931
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: We're back in a moment here on One Bill's Live,

932
00:50:40,360 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. At

933
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: a Steve tester who has been all over the field,

934
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: n Nique. He was kind of a Google role player

935
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: for you. See, Steve are blimp. We're not even in

936
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: the strated here of normalcy here all right. Here we

937
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: are our number two on a Tuesday cut down day

938
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Hard day for players, hard day for coaches.

939
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: But it's a business and they got to get down

940
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: to it. By the four o'clock deadline. All rosters have

941
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: to be at fifty three. Browns have released their fifty

942
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: three man roster. Nothing out of the ordinary there, only

943
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: carrying two tight ends on their roster. We didn't finish

944
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: up on Jack's thoughts on the tweet sheet in terms

945
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: of what Bill's roster move would surprise you the most.

946
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: That's what we're asking you. At eight oh three five

947
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, five fifty he

948
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: said he was surprised that Brian and Hodges won't make it.

949
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: He's going off of reports that are out there about

950
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: who is no longer on the roster. He's talking about

951
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: Brandon Bryan, the defensive tackle, on Isaiah Hodgens, the receiver.

952
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: The thing that I think hurt Hodgens the most is

953
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: when you're fighting to be one of the last receivers

954
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: on the roster, you absolutely have to show a proficiency

955
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: on special teams, and they gave him every opportunity to

956
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: show what he could do on special teams in each

957
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: of the last two preseason games. He was on almost

958
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: every unit over the course of those last two games,

959
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: and it was clear that he was inexperienced in that area,

960
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: at least from my vantage point in what I observed.

961
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: So it makes it tough to make you the sixth

962
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: receiver on an active roster, where if you're going to

963
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 1: be up on a game day and you can't play

964
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: special teams, may me stand on the sidelines watching the

965
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: whole game. You have to contribute in some way. If

966
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: you can't do it on offense, you know, five receivers

967
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: ahead of you don't get to stand on the sidelines

968
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: and watch you. You've got to contribute. Um, Hodgens was

969
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: not good enough to break into the top four receivers

970
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: and he wasn't good enough on special teams to warrant

971
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: that roster spot. That's that's It's that simple. And he's

972
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: a good receiver and he got much better this year.

973
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: I probably had had no question his best preseason as

974
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 1: a Bill this year, and it just wasn't enough. And

975
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: that should tell you, I mean, we're the guys at

976
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: he he needed to commit himself much earlier than he

977
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: did to getting on the roster anyway he possibly could,

978
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: and that means special team, and he it was it

979
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: was too little too late for him special teams wise. Yeah,

980
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: Brandon Brian, they may bring him back in a practice quarter.

981
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: They can obviously, because the guy is worth it um

982
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: so he may be a part of the team that way.

983
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: But for the rat active roster, I think that's what

984
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: I saw. Yeah. And then with respect to Brandon Bryant,

985
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle. Thought he had a good camp and

986
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: a good preseason. But we talked about this on the

987
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: show last week, Steve. We thought there was a good

988
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: chance it was going to come down to decision making

989
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: defensive end versus defensive tackle. They'll probably keep nine. The

990
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: question was do you keep five ends and four defensive

991
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: tackles or do you keep five defensive tackles and four ends.

992
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: Based on what we saw i practice, it appears they

993
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: cided to go with more defensive ends because we saw

994
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: a shack out there among the other young players and

995
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: von Miller. So it looks as though at least on

996
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: the surface, Again, nothing is said in Stone. The official

997
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: roster has not been put out yet. By the Bills,

998
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: But it looks more and more like it will be

999
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: five ends and four defensive tackles, and that unfortunately puts

1000
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: Brandon Brian in a numbers game, if in fact that

1001
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: is the case, because you have three guys that they

1002
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: signed in free agency, de Quan Jones, Jordan Phillips and

1003
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: Tim Settle and then the other guys at Oliver and

1004
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: already you're at four defensive tackles. Yes, that's I think

1005
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: one of the interesting things. And I've been saying it

1006
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: all day, all the whole show, that this is the

1007
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: most interesting day of the year. The most interesting thing

1008
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: about this is maybe how do the Bills use the

1009
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: six spots on their practice squad that are set aside

1010
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: for vested veterans. Yeah, like you know, Brandon Bryant, is

1011
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: he vested? I gotta check he's let me tell jot

1012
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: to be if he's in his anyway, who's gonna be that?

1013
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: Who are gonna be those guys? And because there's some

1014
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: room for some really good players on that And there's

1015
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: nothing that says that all of these guys we've been

1016
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: talking about, this is his fourth season, so he would

1017
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: not be vested. He's not vested after this, it's three

1018
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: years and three games, or it used to be. I

1019
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: think it still is three years and three games. You're

1020
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: vested in the Union. So, um, there's all of these

1021
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: guys that we're talking about could be brought back. OJ Howard, Jolly,

1022
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: all of these guys could be brought back and resigned. Yeah,

1023
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson could be a veteran exemption on the practice squad.

1024
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying just as a veteran exemption, just

1025
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: as a guy to bring back and you know, beyond

1026
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: the practice squad if they can, or you know, when

1027
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: they all the things have settled, they bring them back.

1028
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: So Oj Howard could be that, Duke Johnson could be that.

1029
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: Heaven's Black Shear could be that. So none of this

1030
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: is settled even at four o'clock today, you know what

1031
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Because they're gonna activate. They're gonna put some

1032
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: guys on the fifty three, then put them on, ir.

1033
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: They're gonna put some guys on the fifty three then,

1034
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: or they're gonna put some guys in the pup and

1035
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: then bring them on. Yeah, that kind of thing. So

1036
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: and for most of us, we forget about this stuff

1037
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: after today because as the season rulls on, we it

1038
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: continues to happen. I mean, the Bills will sign and

1039
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: release guys and bring guys on the practice squad all season.

1040
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: It happens all season every year, but for every team. Yeah,

1041
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: so this is just the most interesting day for it

1042
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: because you get some names that you really recognize. Practice

1043
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: squad salary eleven thousand, five hundred dollars a week for

1044
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: young players vets on the practice squad minimum of fifteen thousand,

1045
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: four hundred per week or nineteen thousand, nine hundred per

1046
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: week maximum. Not a bad gig, and more often than not,

1047
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: you're not out there in twenty to thirty car wrecks

1048
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: on a Sunday. Yeah, it's well, it's a lot of money.

1049
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: Ninety well, you know, twenty grand a week for seventeen weeks.

1050
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: That adds to do math, you know, so be happy

1051
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, it's three hundred and fifty grand a year,

1052
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: you know. So it's you know, for a guy like me,

1053
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, that's that was pretty good money. Oh, when

1054
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: you were playing well in my career, Yeah, and even

1055
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: at the end of my career, was it was you know, Okay,

1056
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: money's still I mean that's thirty years ago, like me

1057
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: right to leap at that right? Could you imagine twenty

1058
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: granty a week? No, I think that's what I think.

1059
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: That's what I made my thirteenth year in the league.

1060
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: I think that's what I was making. H Wow, good

1061
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: for you. We wanted to get some more locker room

1062
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: sound headed your way, and one guy who's had an

1063
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: outstanding preseason is safety Jaquan Johnson, and so I wanted

1064
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: to make it a point to catch up with him

1065
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: in the locker room. And when we began the interview,

1066
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: we were talking to him about his preseason and what

1067
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: he thinks of the play he put out there on

1068
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: the field getting far more time with Jordan Poyer on

1069
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: the injury list. Here is Jaquan Johnson. You get all

1070
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: those reps with the ones. How much of a difference

1071
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: does it make. Is it any different from the rest

1072
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: you've gotten in the past. What makes it different? What

1073
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: makes it more valuable? For sure, there's more valuable because

1074
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm going with the wars and you know they get

1075
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: to him my voice. But all the reps I got,

1076
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna give me that experience from the stakes.

1077
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: If I make mistakes. I can learn from them in

1078
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: certain situations like that in the game. So I think

1079
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: throw reps are really valuable. That one. You've heard Mica

1080
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: in your ear on the sidelines in between plays, or

1081
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: maybe you hear him shouting from the sidelines and practice

1082
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: when you're on the field and he's not when he's

1083
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: behind you. What's the conversation like, is it all the

1084
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: same kind of conversations They're just happening in real time

1085
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: in terms of lining up leverage hell Paul, Oh, yeah, yeah,

1086
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: pretty yeah, pretty much. When were going to feel is

1087
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: this like we're in the locker room, you know, we

1088
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: have the same football terminology bill talk like we'd like

1089
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: to call it. Basically, we make adseets and we line

1090
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: up and weybody to go. He depending on me, I'm

1091
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: depending on him. Is there anything that you feel in

1092
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: your four that has gone up for you, like an

1093
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: area of your game. Maybe you Dad in the off

1094
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: season and said, come September, I want to and now

1095
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: you feel you are better at Dad heading into the season.

1096
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: I've believe my details, you know, just all again, though

1097
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: the reps they can saw I'm a long writer and

1098
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: communicating things of that nature. Always feel like I could

1099
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: make plays on the ball, tackle and be physical at

1100
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: the line of summers or covered. So I feel like

1101
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: that asked like I always had that. But the details,

1102
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, because in this league is all about the

1103
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: details and the minste and has your time with the

1104
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: ones convinced you that you can be I started in

1105
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: this league, for sure, but even when I was a backup.

1106
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: Even though I'm a backup, but I feel like I

1107
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: can bill started in this league. It's just it's just

1108
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: a matter of time and you know, opportunities and when

1109
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: they present this every take for the event, that's Jaquan

1110
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: Johnson Um basically addressing most of my questions, right, you know,

1111
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: all the guys yelling and screaming in the background. There

1112
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: was a playing ping Pine, he did ping poet, he

1113
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: did ping pong, matchman Gabe Davis since Princer Brown, who

1114
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: are both in the top ten rank. Yeah, and it

1115
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting to see this. And I was talking

1116
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: to you about this. It's been a long time since

1117
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: I've been in a post practice. In fact, it was

1118
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: probably when I was playing that I've been in a

1119
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: post practice locker room. Today was the first one of

1120
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: those since what twenty nineteen. Right, Yeah, it's different. It's different.

1121
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: We had done some in the locker room, the game

1122
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: day locker room in the preseason, but this is the

1123
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: first time in the practice locker room in three years. Yeah,

1124
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: it was. It was a little strange. We were in

1125
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: there yesterday and then again today. But yeah, I mean

1126
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: some of the layout has changed a little bit, not tremendously,

1127
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's it's interesting how it kind of

1128
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: all comes back now when because I had forgotten that.

1129
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: That's not for anything. I'm just I've forgotten that part

1130
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: of my career. You know, where you come in from practice,

1131
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: the media guys are standing in there. You know, the

1132
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: old guys were all in there, and you know, you

1133
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to these and it hasn't

1134
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: been going on for a handful of years almost, So

1135
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: to have these guys have to go in there and

1136
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: see them when they're a little more casual, it's gonna

1137
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: be good for the car. I think people are gonna

1138
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: enjoy hearing that side of it again that they've been

1139
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: missing out, probably haven't missed because you know, just the

1140
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: season stars and it goes and you get what you get.

1141
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: Now that the media is back in there. It'll open

1142
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: up some things for people to get to hear some

1143
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 1: more interesting stuff. Yeah, no question about it. Among the

1144
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: eleven dbs that we counted out on the practice field

1145
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: today was one cam Lewis, who a lot of us

1146
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: thought could be a bubble guy and has moved around

1147
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 1: a lot outside corner, has played some nickel, It's even

1148
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: lined up at safety in the preseason, and a lot

1149
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: of us were of the belief that he was in

1150
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: direct competition with Nick McLeod who was playing outside corner

1151
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: and some safety as well. Both of them were out

1152
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: there on the practice field today. So here is cam

1153
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: Lewis on still working to stay on the roster. So

1154
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: but you know, the ground's not over. I still got

1155
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: to work to stay here, uh and work to you know,

1156
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: help put my team win games. How about the move

1157
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: to safety kind of almost like a last not ditched effort,

1158
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: but something right down to the very wire. What was

1159
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: that like for you? Just trying to show them I

1160
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: can do whatever they need me to do. Uh, It's

1161
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: it's different for sure, something that I had to get

1162
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: used to take the more reps up. But just giving

1163
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: them or showing them the ability that I can be

1164
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: moved around outside, inside and on the back end of safety.

1165
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: Moving forward, what do you think you're going to see

1166
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: more run ads, safety corner or everything. I'm really not sure,

1167
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, just yet. I have to ask coach, you know,

1168
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,479
Speaker 1: what's my role, how that's gonna carve out and stuff

1169
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, I'm just happy to be

1170
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: a part of this team, you know, and try to

1171
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: help them win ball games. Is it's something you ask

1172
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: or you wait for them to tell No, No, I'm

1173
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: for sure act you know, because you want to know

1174
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: which a role list, you know, anything you can't do,

1175
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, try to help the team and yeah, that's

1176
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: that's really it. Just trying to help, you know, win

1177
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: ball games. And that's that's to go here, and you know,

1178
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: try to get to the big one too. So whatever

1179
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: I can go, you know, special teams, you know, outside, inside, safety,

1180
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: whatever it needs to be, like, you know, I'll be

1181
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: I gotta get it done. You told me after the

1182
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: game you didn't you didn't love the way you played

1183
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: early on in the game. Did that way on you

1184
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: at all when you went to bed after the game

1185
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: and thinking about it a little bit um until the

1186
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: next morning. You just gotta dish it away, you know,

1187
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: twenty four hour old couch frisure shots that all the time.

1188
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: You know, um, you know, move on to the next one.

1189
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: And I felt like I still, you know, can improve.

1190
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: I could have fixed a different stuff that happened during

1191
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: the game. But you know, I believe in my ability

1192
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: that I put the stuff that I put on, you know,

1193
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: tape and stuff like that. So I was, all right,

1194
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: what's the difference just from a field angle and how

1195
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: you see the game from playing safety to the corner,

1196
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: that's different. You gotta see everything. You gotta see all

1197
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: the rods progress and going off quarterback of eyes. It's different.

1198
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: You know, playing nickel a lot of man and man

1199
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of fitting to be guests and they got.

1200
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: But as safety you gotta do then there everything. So

1201
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: it's a different as field. But I'm starting to get

1202
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: you to it, all right. That's cam Lewis talking about

1203
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: the work is not done. He wasn't counting any chickens

1204
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: before they were hatched. Even after he was here at

1205
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: practice this morning. He'll he'll agree that he made the

1206
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 1: roster when he gets to four o'clock and his name's

1207
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: still there with somebody tells him how you're in Yeah,

1208
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, that's the same with me. I that's where

1209
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: you gotta go when you're at that level. It took

1210
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: it took a long time for me not to be

1211
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: in that level. It was nice when it happened once

1212
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: in a while. So yeah, that's it's a hard day.

1213
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: It is a hard day, man, I said at the

1214
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: top of the show. It's a really difficult day for

1215
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: these guys because they're saying goodbye to some guys that

1216
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: they won't see anymore. Uh. Some guys may think they

1217
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: have made it and then come three thirty quarter or

1218
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: four they get call and you know you're out, you know,

1219
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: and it's just it's a crusher. It's a real crusher.

1220
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: So it's a difficult day for these guys, it's but

1221
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: it's also exhilarating for some of them. It's um I was.

1222
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: I can't describe the sense of joy and elation that

1223
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,959
Speaker 1: I got when I first made my first NFL roster.

1224
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: It was it was an unbelievable feeling. Let's go to

1225
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: the phones at eight oh three, five fifty eight fifty two,

1226
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: five fifty and we begin with Bill in Lakewood, we

1227
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: got for his bill. You're on one Bill's Live. Yeah,

1228
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: this question is first Steve Tasker, uh, Steve Huger in

1229
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: the special Teams ace that you are is that the

1230
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,479
Speaker 1: white elephant in the room. That Brett Kern is now

1231
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: available and he's only a couple of years removed from

1232
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl punter and h he's also a Western

1233
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: New York native out of Grand Island. Your thoughts, I

1234
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: think he's question that he's not been signed yet. Why

1235
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: has he not been signed yet? Well, do you think

1236
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: he's coming in? Here's the thing, there's no doubt you know,

1237
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, let me just say this. The

1238
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: bills no exact actually who that guy is, just like that,

1239
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: just like they know who the guy from Denver is.

1240
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: The guy from Denver, say Martin. Sam Martin got cut

1241
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: because he would not take a pay cut after being

1242
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: the top five of every statistical category in the league

1243
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: last year. He had a Pro Bowl, all Pro years

1244
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: a punter. He's available, as is Brett Kern. Yes, they

1245
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: will have those. There's no doubt they're going to talk

1246
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: to those guys. And they worked out and says over

1247
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: the weekend. If you're if you're talking Buffalo Bills. Think

1248
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: about this, Um, there's a list of may let's just

1249
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: say this. There's let's say five there maybe ten, but

1250
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: let's just say five for the sake of our argument.

1251
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: And there's you know, you got this Sam Martin, you

1252
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: got Brett Kern, and three guys that are good that

1253
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: you've worked out and you look at and you feel like,

1254
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: you know what, I like that guy, any one of

1255
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: these three. So say we work out twelve. We got

1256
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: these five. You know how they you know how they

1257
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: picked the guy? What are you wanting to play for? Yeah,

1258
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: that's it. Money's part of it and the and the

1259
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: other element here too is they got to figure out

1260
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: this fifty three man roster and they may need that

1261
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: extra spot right now right to carry somebody because of

1262
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: an injury designation or something like that. Why fill it

1263
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: now with a healthy punter when for a day you

1264
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: may need to put Marquez Stevenson on your sixty three,

1265
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 1: then you I arm the next day. Now the space

1266
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: is available to sign the punter that you need. Exactly,

1267
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: they could sign the punter. So that might be why

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Speaker 1: they're waiting. You might not sign a punter till Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, So Bill, and that's a Bill.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. I think Brett Kern can play.

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01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: He's a good punter, was in twenty nineteen, so they

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Speaker 1: got three in his career and same Sam Martin, same thing.

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Speaker 1: And Martin's probably at the height of his career. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're he's thirty two, which is middling for a punter.

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: I mean they can punt Brett Kern's thirty six. So yeah,

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01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: so exactly. Brett Kern's a perfect example. He's gone to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl after or the age of thirty two,

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01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: Martin is so yeah, that's he's on the menu. No question.

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01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: Brett Kern would be a great call a Grand Island kid.

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01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: The biggest problem with signing him his tickets for his

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01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: family and friends, you know, right, I mean it's a

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01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: no brainer, But that doesn't mean he's the guy. Yeah,

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01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: but that Brownie brings up a great point. They may

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01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: not sign a punter until Thursday or Friday, Yeah, because

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01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: they got some roster juggling to do with some of

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01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: these injured players stuff like that. It may be it

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01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: may be over the weekend next weekend when they bring

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01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: him in. I would think it might be sooner than that,

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01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: because you want to you want to at least give

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01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: the new punter a week with Tyler Bass on holds

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01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: and stuff. I would think get the reps in, you

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01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Both those guys have done it right.

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01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, how does how does Bass like his his

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: ball team? To tell you what if? If if Tyler

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01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: Bass is the deciding vote, it's Brett Kern all the way,

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Speaker 1: he's thirty six, that means he's been doing it for

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01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: four years longer. Well, okay, you know what I mean.

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01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's and plus he's been on a and

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: he's been on a playoff team. Sam Martin has been

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01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: on the Broncos. Yeah, and Kerrent has been holding for

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01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: guys who are kicking in big games. And they're the

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01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: number one seed last year, and and so he's been

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01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: there in a team that has been recently number one seed.

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01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: So to me, that means something plus well, not for

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01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: nothing though Sam Martin came from the Denver Broncos, had

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01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: played with von Miller, Roger Saffold, Dan Kesson or Kessonberry Quessenberry.

1307
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: We're on the Titans last year. They'll they'll give scouting

1308
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: reports on these guys. Well, Roger. Roger was trying to

1309
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 1: recruit current on social media, right, so there's some there's

1310
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: some of that going on. They'll talk to those guys

1311
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: that what do you think, what kind of guy is he?

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, so they'll get the report there. So, yes,

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01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: it is a an abundant list of good punters who

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01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: are available, and you get Jelly for the bills. It's

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01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: not a difficult position to pill. It's exactly right. You can, yeah,

1316
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: go on Twitter, there's you know, every you know, Billy

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01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: Back of Donuts can punt so and interesting enough if

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01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: you if you're talking philosophy, Cincinnati just cut a brand

1319
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: new kid, a young a young kid. So if you

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01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: want to get a guy who's gonna be here for

1321
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: five thousand years, there's one available. Drew Chrisman is the

1322
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: kid's name, right, He got released by the Bagels. They

1323
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: went with their veteran Huber for his fourteenth year. Yeah,

1324
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: so that'll tell you that there's a long lifespan and

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01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: there are guys available. Bill brings up a good point.

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01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: You can have your pick. Let's go back to the phones, though,

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01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: and we go to Tom down in Bliss, Tom, what

1328
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: do you have for us? You're on one Bill's life. Well,

1329
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: so if you we're talking about partners, I'm gonna say

1330
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: the Bills aren't gonna pump much just here. But his

1331
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: most important job is gonna be holding the kicks for

1332
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: field goals, right, And I don't know how much we're

1333
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: gonna do that, So really, the putter is gonna be

1334
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: a guoralified field goal holder. But I ain't worry Steve.

1335
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, do you put your glasses on and off

1336
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 1: when you're playing golf and as your golf game improving,

1337
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: I hope. But any way, the reason I called is

1338
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: to talk about the practice squad because we're gonna get poached.

1339
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: We got so many good players and they're gonna bring

1340
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: them back. They're gonna put them on the practice squad.

1341
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 1: You can only protect the flour, So do you protect

1342
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: the vets or do you protect the rookies? And O. J. Howard,

1343
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna make a door practice

1344
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: squad because I think he's gonna take the money and

1345
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: run or just sign with another team. Well, I think

1346
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: you're all you yeah, I mean I think Tom, you're

1347
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: also thinking that there are teams desperate for running back health.

1348
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: There are teams across the league clipping running backs left

1349
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: and right. Um, it's not only the Bills that'll be

1350
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: cutting running backs off their roster. Every other team's gonna

1351
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 1: be doing it. He wasn't mentioning he was missing Oj Howard,

1352
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: not running backs. Now he's mentioning Duke Johnson. Oh okay, Duke. Yeah,

1353
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that yet. That's yes, you're right, and

1354
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: you're right. Oj Howard could get a deal, And I

1355
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: don't know that there's anybody going to give him a

1356
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: guaranteed money now after he's been released by two different teams.

1357
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: Certainly not in week one, because that means as a

1358
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 1: vest veteran, his salary is guaranteed for the rest of

1359
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: the year. Raybe in week two somebody looks to poach him,

1360
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: because after week one you get through that. If you

1361
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: sign a veteran, you're not committed to paying him for

1362
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: the full year. You can cut him somewhere and not

1363
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: be on the hook for the salary. Yeah, and the

1364
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: practice squad will take care of itself if they don't

1365
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: find a Let's face it to me, there's nobody out.

1366
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't think there's one guy that's been released by

1367
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: another NFL team that the Bills would sign. Like. This

1368
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: isn't the old days of the Buffalo Bills. There's nobody

1369
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: out there that any team has released that would come

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01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: on and be a lock for a roster spot if

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01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: he started with the Bills at the beginning of training camp.

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: There's nobody out there. This roster is too deep and

1373
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: too talented, period. So practice squad, Okay, fine, maybe you

1374
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: get a guy there, you get him acclimated, he learns

1375
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: the offense, and you know, in the next couple of weeks,

1376
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: and then in week six or seven you have an

1377
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: injury and he gets a chance to get activated. Maybe,

1378
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: but the practice squad is what it's gonna be. Most

1379
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: of those guys are gonna stay on there for the

1380
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: bulk of the season. You might get a guy like

1381
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: last year when they lost Rashad wild Goose and Jack

1382
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: Anderson got poached right and by the Jets and the

1383
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: Eagles respective exactly, So you've got maybe that'll happen then,

1384
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: and it seems really important now, and it is because

1385
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna have the opportunity to get better,

1386
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: like these like Quentin Morris has right, So we'll see.

1387
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: But okay, let's they got and they're gonna they're gonna

1388
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: protect four guys. What okay? O. J. Howard signs back,

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01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, okay, great, and Quentin Morris goes back on

1390
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: the practice squad or Tommy Sweeney does, I don't know

1391
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: who cares. All. The point is the fifty three guys

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01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: that are in on this Quade's that's what's gonna make

1393
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: a difference. Now they're not all gonna be there. Brownie's

1394
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: point about the punter not being signed until late in

1395
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: the week with the extra roster spots huge, because that's

1396
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: exactly what they're gonna do. So, you know, let's just

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01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: sit here and wait until four o'clock because the bills, notoriously,

1398
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: even we saw the last week, they wait until until

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01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 1: they have to make a decision. To make a decision.

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01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out about tradevious white today. That's an enormous,

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01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: an enormous telling decision that we're going to find out

1402
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: about it before just at four o'clock today, maybe after

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01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: four o'clock when it finally comes out. Lake time for

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01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: us more of your thoughts at eight oh three, five fifty.

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01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 1: What's the most surprising Bill's roster mover. What would it

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01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,759
Speaker 1: be for you when it comes down at four o'clock

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01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: and your thoughts on the tweet sheet. Next, we're back

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01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: in a moment here on One Bill's Live. Stay too,

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Speaker 1: I want a snap Dragon apple by the end of

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Speaker 1: to provide it. Making demonstration on make it happen. Oh

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Speaker 1: they don't. They don't get harvested until October. Yeah, I

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01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: want a fresh one, not not. You know ones have

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Speaker 1: been stored all year. All right, fair enough, that's one thing. Yeah,

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01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: we go back to the Tweetchee. What Bill's roster move

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01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: would surprise you the most? Nick t says, not necessarily

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01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: a roster move. But is it true that our sixth

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01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: round cornerback Christian Benford is actually challenging our first round

1427
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: cornerback Kayer Elam. If so, is Elam under performing or

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: is Benford that good? Well, Benford's that good? Yeah, you

1429
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: don't get it. They're not. They're not challenging for the

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01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: eighth and ninth cornerback spot. They're charms him to be starters.

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: So Benford has been an enormous surprise. Yeah, and it's

1432
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: led some of us to wonder when you get to

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: week one, if it's still that way, do you platoon

1434
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: Elam and Benford through the course of that first game

1435
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: or you just put one kid on the field and

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01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: say go get him. I think he put one kid

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01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: on the fields say go get him, because they platooned

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01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: all through the preseason. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting, man, because

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01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,839
Speaker 1: Elim to me and I heard this, you know, halfway

1440
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: through campus, like, wow, Elam's you know, struggling, and Danie

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01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: he's I didn't never saw Elam struggle. I saw him

1442
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 1: compete hard. I saw him he I thought he was

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01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: a product. I thought he had a really good camp

1444
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: and deserve the one reps in the absence of Trey,

1445
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: of course, but he played every bit to me. He

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01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: was in there with Dane Jackson, he was in there

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01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: with Tarren Johnson, he was in there with and Benford

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01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, I didn't think, I thought. I

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01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: don't think Elam has underperformed in any way, shape or form.

1450
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: I think the surprise of camp and the guy that's

1451
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 1: been crazy good is Benford. Yeah. Number where steady player?

1452
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: Where did he come from? Villanova? Well, I know that,

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01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know what I mean, I mean,

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01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: what a shot. He was probably the most pleasant surprise

1455
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:40,839
Speaker 1: of training camp. Yeah, so he's you know, his story

1456
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: has hardened him for the NFL life and for adversity,

1457
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: does not discourage or dissway, he does not care how

1458
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: hard it looks like it's gonna be. Had the opportunity

1459
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: to listen to him in an interview setting in a

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01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: locker room for the first time yesterday. Guy as serious

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01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: as a heart attack. Yeah, Yeah, unflappable but dead serious. Yeah.

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01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: He's like front to back, sideways, upside down and every

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01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: other way. Yeah. He's probably that laser focus that has

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01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: made him such a pleasant surprise in training. King Isaiah McKenzie.

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01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 1: He's not. That's correct. Different personalities for sure. Steve on

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01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: a tweet, Cheet says biggest roster move that would surprise

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01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: him the most Trey White not being on the pup

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01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: list would be awesome, but it would be a huge

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01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: surprise at the same time. Yeah, I think we're all

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01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: quickly coming to the conclusion that in less than two hours,

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01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance that Trudavious Whites on reserve pup.

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01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: He has not been cleared for practice yet. We're at

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01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: the end of camp in preseason and nothing has changed

1474
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: in terms of his status of getting on the field.

1475
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: No imminent time tape like he'll be back in a week,

1476
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't gotten anything like that. So it

1477
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: leads many of us to believe that it's headed that

1478
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: way and we'll probably find out, Well, we'll know what

1479
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: his roster designation is come four o'clock, whether it's a

1480
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: reserve pup listing active roster or something else. But yeah,

1481
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: you're on the money with that, yeah, Patrick says. Isaiah

1482
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: Hodgins would be a surprising roster move for him. He

1483
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: was awesome in the preseason, deserves a chance to perform

1484
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: on special teams and an outside receiver. But they got

1485
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: those opportunities in the preseason. In each of the last

1486
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: two preseason games, played a ton on special teams, and

1487
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately it at least appears on the surface

1488
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,799
Speaker 1: he did not show enough to stay on the fifty

1489
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: three man roster. Will find out for sure come four

1490
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: o'clock this afternoon. So we kind of covered some of

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01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: that ground from Joe. What happens to the cap hit

1492
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: on oj Howard if he is cut and then resigned

1493
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: by the Bills, Yeah, it's a mess. I don't think

1494
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: you cut him in the first place if you have

1495
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: an intention of bringing him back, because why would you

1496
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: take a dead cap hit of two point two six

1497
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: million dollars this year, had over half a million next

1498
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 1: year and then sign him back again. To me, that's backwards. Yeah,

1499
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't make financial sense to how that they're already

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01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: on the hook for the money, so at least you

1501
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: could come back. Now you're gonna sign him back for

1502
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: more money, right, it doesn't make sense, Yeah, because the

1503
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: money's already in his pocket. Um, it's cost prohibitive to

1504
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: do it that way. Yeah, So I don't see that

1505
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: as a feasible option unless it doesn't make Yeah, yeah

1506
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't. And in case as well, unless they're unless

1507
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna yeah, I mean they happen. Because here's the thing.

1508
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: He's already getting the cap money that they're guaranteed him,

1509
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: which is was two point two point six two point

1510
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: six two, So two point six two he's getting no

1511
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: matter what, he's only got here point one is what

1512
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: he's gonna get in total. Right, So he's already got

1513
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: one point four to sign the contract guaranteed two point

1514
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: six two, which means he gets one point two more,

1515
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: um coming to him, no matter what. If you're gonna

1516
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: cut him and then resign him only to pay him

1517
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: more money like that, you've got us pay him. That

1518
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: doesn't make any You gotta pay him unless the contract

1519
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: says he pays you to play for the Buffalo Pills.

1520
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm not gonna do that. So yeah,

1521
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: and I and it's not going to be that the

1522
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 1: They just they can't just throw the same contract up

1523
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: that he's already signed, so I don't I don't know

1524
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: how that would work. Um. So yeah, that's that's a

1525
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: glaring hole in that theory. Let's go back to the

1526
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: phones and we go to marine on a celle. What

1527
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 1: do you have for a marine or on one Bill's lives? Hey, guys,

1528
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: So I would stand the most prizing Bill's rosters to

1529
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: me will be we're on the super Bowl one. So

1530
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: to not extend player and start to Quins as I

1531
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: mean to Quins Rowson is really good, but he's really small,

1532
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that if he had a opportunity to

1533
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,480
Speaker 1: go one on one with Travis Kelsey or some other titles,

1534
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: they will roll over him, just like we pretty much

1535
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: saw in the preseason accent and and we I think

1536
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: that also, I mean, this is not prepared to that conversation.

1537
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: But I don't think Greg Rosso is going to have

1538
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: a dominant season. I think he lacked a little bit

1539
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: of fire and at Russian getting to the fly. But

1540
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: but we'll see. And I think we need some great

1541
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: talking along um special teams, so we might have to

1542
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: bring some guys back to that. But yeah, but I

1543
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't think we should get with a player

1544
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 1: just yet. Okay, Yeah, you're right, m You're right about

1545
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: the size concerns with Jaquan, right, that's right. Jaquan is

1546
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: five ten a buck ninety one um in his fourth year.

1547
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: He's a younger guy. Question. Jordan's six foot one ninety one.

1548
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: He seems bigger than that. He does, I don't. Yes,

1549
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: you're right, it is. And here's the thing, and take

1550
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: it from me. I mean, I was a small guy played.

1551
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: But small guys are less durable than big guys because

1552
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: it takes more velocity and forced to hurt them. And

1553
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: you just shrug off more hits as a big guy

1554
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: than you do as a small guy. And it's a

1555
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: long season. I would say that. I would say that

1556
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: is the best and most compelling argument I've heard and

1557
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: that we've had between us as well. This is a

1558
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: super Bowl team. They're headed to the game. They're headed

1559
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: to the game. They want to make the super Bowl

1560
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: this year. They've got designs on. They want to do

1561
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: it every year, obviously, and they've been in the position

1562
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: the last two to have a shot at it as well.

1563
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 1: But it's an ongoing thing and they think this is

1564
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, you got to stay there. This is a

1565
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: year where they've got a chance to be that team.

1566
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: Really want to mess it's in the back end of

1567
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: your defense. Well, it's a difficult decision. No question about it.

1568
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world, yeah, Jordan Poyer starts

1569
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: at safety just like he has the last five years.

1570
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: The problem is he wants more money, believes he's worth more,

1571
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: and it's a legitimate argument, you know, first team All Pro.

1572
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: It's not an unreasonable request, not today. But does the

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01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: cap situation that the Bills currently have, and I'm sure

1574
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: the analytics that they've run on the safety position for

1575
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: the better part of the last ten years, and when

1576
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: you start to see a change in production maybe happen

1577
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 1: across the board, what does that data tell them that

1578
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: might be factored into this conversation in terms of what

1579
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: a safety is worth after age thirty I'm not Look,

1580
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: do I think Jordan Poyer can still play your damn right?

1581
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: I do, But I don't know if the view is

1582
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: different on try to extend him out and playing in

1583
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: age thirty two, in age thirty three season and what

1584
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: are you paying? And is that what Jordan's looking for?

1585
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: We don't know any of that stuff, right, So that's

1586
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 1: why we're kind of looking at it a little bit blind.

1587
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 1: But it's going to be very interesting to see what

1588
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: comes to pass here in the next couple of hours

1589
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: and beyond concerning his status on this rout. We both

1590
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: I think you Brownie, you and I both think though

1591
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: it will be resolved before the opening day game. I

1592
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: think it's got to be because you don't want that

1593
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: guy playing with stuff in the back of his mind.

1594
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: You want him just out there playing, even if that

1595
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: resolution is no resolution. They're saying, listen, we're gonna go

1596
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: throughout the season like this, and Paula says, yeah, I'm in.

1597
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna go, and I'm going to become a free

1598
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: agent at the end of the year. All of that stuff.

1599
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a definitive answer of how they're going

1600
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: to handle it before the start of the season. I

1601
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: would say, well, breake time here for us, Steve and

1602
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: I will wrap things up with some of your thoughts

1603
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet and maybe a final call if

1604
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: we've got time here. On One Bill's Live, presented by

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01:26:55,000 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: Allied to Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we're

1606
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: back One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

1607
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: as we close out a Tuesday edition of the show,

1608
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: and we're gonna squeeze one more call in here really quick.

1609
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: We go to Jack and Buffalo. What do you got

1610
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: Jack here? On One Bill's Live from Cheeky Waga. Oh yeah,

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01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: go ahead, Joe's enough, Jack, do it? Okay? Did you

1612
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: want to steal somebody else's chest? Understood? I'm looking at

1613
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: Oj Howard and I'm glad the Bills cut him. Now

1614
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: I might be missing something. I don't get to watch

1615
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 1: all of the practices like you do. But when you've

1616
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: got Tommy Sweeney and Quintin Morris out there working their

1617
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: butts off to make this team, I get no impression

1618
01:27:55,479 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: that Oj Howard felt any pressure to do anything, you know,

1619
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: to live up to his reputation. It's like he said,

1620
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 1: watch my film from Alabama, I'm gonna be great. Well,

1621
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: he's had a long time to do it. He didn't

1622
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: do it for us. I think the Bills are disappointed that,

1623
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, they invested the money in him and now

1624
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: they've got to dump them. But I'm glad they did

1625
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: because you can't hear this going around to the rest

1626
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: of the team. When you get the effort you get

1627
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: from Sweeney and Doyle to make this team, you know,

1628
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 1: and Howard, I just didn't see it till tell me

1629
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: if I'm missing something, guys, I'll hang up and I

1630
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: want to listen to you on TV, right, go ahead. Yeah,

1631
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: I would say that he didn't do anything to separate

1632
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: himself from the other two. He wasn't dynamic in any way,

1633
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: shape or form to separate himself from Sweeney and or Morris.

1634
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: And as we said earlier in the show, Steve Morris

1635
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: showed a definitive improvement in the blocking area. And here's

1636
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: the other thing where Sweeney and Morris had a leg

1637
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: up on OJ Howard. They play on special teams. He

1638
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: does not. Yeah, yeah, that and that's right. I mean,

1639
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,480
Speaker 1: you gotta have a you gotta totally have a contribution

1640
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: to make. Certainly, Sweeney was gonna make the team even

1641
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: if Howard was his number two. Sweeney was going to

1642
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: be the number three, you'd think. But I think you're right.

1643
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: I think they like the heart of the work ethic

1644
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: and the trend that Sweeney and Howard are. Sweeney and Morris.

1645
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: We're showing. We've got a roster breakdown tomorrow on the

1646
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 1: show along with NFL Films Great co Sale. We'll see it.

1647
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: What