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Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs to be able to play third base

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Speaker 2: well and also hit ladies. He's an important piece speaking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the clear Blue Sky. You put some stats in

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Speaker 3: He's like, faty, he's gonna play right and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: At all, Like sure, what it sounds like it's an upgrade,

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Speaker 1: I'm good with it, especially knowing that and Ben just

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Speaker 1: like that decision was made internally. We just learned about

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Speaker 1: Wan Sota is moving to left field, what are we

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Speaker 1: Can't be worse, No, pretty much can't be worse in

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Speaker 3: But I thought some of the other interesting stuff is

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Speaker 3: Someone asks asked, specifically, what your models tell you about this?

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Speaker 3: You know what David Stern said, What do you say,

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Speaker 1: It's a vibes thing. He's if he wants to play,

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Speaker 1: realistically it doesn't really matter. And are options in right

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Speaker 3: I mean, it might be too soon for you guys

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Speaker 1: For an arm, KENNI for an arm.

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Speaker 1: Melendez.

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Speaker 2: And you know what's crazy is if you.

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Speaker 1: I'm being thirty years old now, maybe if you ask

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Speaker 2: Melendez eight years ago.

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Speaker 3: Melendez right now is about twenty six. He's twenty seventy seven. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So I got the timing. I got the timing off.

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Speaker 3: But when MJ Malades, when MJ.

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Speaker 1: Melendez was a prospect on the Royals, I loved this guy.

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Speaker 1: And then he got to the majors and he had

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Speaker 1: So listen, talk me into him, James, because I used

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Speaker 3: So the big thing with m Jay Melendez is that

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Speaker 3: Like you've always had at least like average to slightly

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Speaker 3: You've had a guy that came up as a catcher,

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Speaker 2: But anything, he's.

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Speaker 1: to change his swing because he still wasn't putting up

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Speaker 1: any particularly great counting numbers wise, and was still a

440
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Speaker 1: much below average hitter. But I like again, when he

441
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Speaker 1: was a prospect coming up, he was he was an

442
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Speaker 1: exciting name to talk about because he was putting up

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Speaker 1: again some big numbers and was a guy who could catch,

444
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Speaker 1: you could play first, could play the outfield. He was

445
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Speaker 1: a versatile player. So yeah, I prefer the Mets. Kind

446
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Speaker 1: of last few guys on the roster to be filled

447
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Speaker 1: with guys like this rather than the Joey Wendalls and

448
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Speaker 1: Zach Schortz of the world.

449
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Speaker 2: Like that makes me happier.

450
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Speaker 3: The thing that's intriguing about this, And also just this

451
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Speaker 3: is not manufactured love for MJ Melendez. Mark Marcus Noan,

452
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Speaker 3: I've been a fond of MJ for a while and

453
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Speaker 3: this was this was a text you sent me like

454
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Speaker 3: a month ago, out of the blue, cold in November, Yeah,

455
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Speaker 3: cold tex tweet James just being like, I want MJ.

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Speaker 2: Melendez on the Mets.

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Speaker 3: I'm in just anyway I could squeeze him in here,

458
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Speaker 3: And I think what this actually might still be doing.

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Speaker 1: We're still going to keep an eye on this. This

460
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Speaker 1: still might be squeezing Mark Fiantos probably is that kind

461
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Speaker 1: of is where we still remain to be because the

462
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Speaker 1: things that we've it's kind of lefty though exactly, but

463
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Speaker 1: Mark Vinto's is righty. You know, Markill's right handed bat,

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Speaker 1: don't we.

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Speaker 3: I think that we're comfortable with the hitting the lefties

466
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Speaker 3: now because of Horiy Palanka's ability to switch either our

467
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Speaker 3: second basement being a right handed hitter, and Semion and

468
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Speaker 3: Bobachet being the lefty master.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where is the I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: it's more of the bench bat. You still need right

471
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Speaker 1: handed bat, and I don't I don't know who that

472
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Speaker 1: would be If it's not Viento's my forgetting.

473
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Speaker 3: Somebody, not forget anybody, because he could be Richo, but

474
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Speaker 3: he's not good from the right side, Tyron Taylor technically,

475
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Speaker 3: but he's defense first, so you are right about that.

476
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Speaker 3: But yeah, so maybe that was where I was missing it.

477
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Speaker 3: But I think just the fact they gave Melendez guaranteed money.

478
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Speaker 3: I think it was like a million and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one point five.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that he does have a little bit

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Speaker 3: more speed, he does have more defensive versatility. There's just

482
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Speaker 3: athleticism there. There's something that I feel like they're still

483
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Speaker 3: trying to dream on. He also could just do this

484
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Speaker 3: for a week and get cut. Not holding ourselves and

485
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Speaker 3: Melendez in any way, shape or form, But it's just

486
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Speaker 3: it's a profile that does ream a guy that could

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Speaker 3: be like relatively plus strong cidplatoon in the right in

488
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Speaker 3: the right situation.

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Speaker 1: And also, you know, Smet's the podcast we gotta talk

490
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Speaker 1: about m J L Milendis for five minutes. That's why

491
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Speaker 1: you guys listened to us. I mean, why not. We

492
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to Brian Hudson soon. Wait, but first,

493
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Speaker 1: first we got to talk about that six man rotation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I few notes about that. Is that David sertains,

495
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Speaker 3: but all these injury news were happening. He was like,

496
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Speaker 3: all six, all six of the stars are healthy, which

497
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Speaker 3: is nice.

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Speaker 1: That's good to know. That is good, even though Lindor

499
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Speaker 1: is hurt.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, if we get to the opening day

501
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Speaker 3: with all six, we'll have the conversation. Then we've told

502
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Speaker 3: you guys, the way the schedule lines up, we're not

503
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Speaker 3: even going to need five like a month. Should I

504
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Speaker 3: go through the schedule again?

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Speaker 1: Right now? You go through the schedule, and I guess

506
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Speaker 1: I'll briefly talk about too, why like and after that

507
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Speaker 1: six man rotation is perfect because of the inning's limits,

508
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Speaker 1: and we saw that guy's ring out of gas and

509
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Speaker 1: the fact that code I Senga used to be on

510
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Speaker 1: a six man rotation. It does kind of just make

511
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Speaker 1: sense for the Mets.

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Speaker 2: All right.

513
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Speaker 3: So before we even get to Memorial Day, the Mets

514
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Speaker 3: are going to San Francisco. That will be April second.

515
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Speaker 3: We start see years in San Francisco. If you guys

516
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Speaker 3: have your mittens and your hats ready. Then on the thirteenth,

517
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Speaker 3: after we come home from San Francisco, we're back out

518
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Speaker 3: to Los Angeles and then we have I'm.

519
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Speaker 1: Gonna be honest, there's no way anybody can understand the

520
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Speaker 1: context of the schedule. You just saying dates, and then

521
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Speaker 1: you need to tell us off days. How many games

522
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Speaker 1: are off day? What I'm saying, whenever you go west

523
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Speaker 1: or come back west, you're getting an off day. Let's

524
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Speaker 1: say that's kind of the norm there.

525
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Speaker 3: So we have our first game of the year, then

526
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Speaker 3: we're off on the Friday because you have to bake

527
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Speaker 3: in that that off day for that.

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Speaker 1: Then we come back Monday, Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Wednesday, we're in Saint Louis, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday in

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Speaker 3: San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Back home again. We have the Monday off, six games

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Speaker 1: at home.

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Speaker 3: Fly out to LA, and then in between LA and Chicago,

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Speaker 3: we have a travel day on a Thursday. So we

535
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Speaker 3: have a Thursday off because we're playing a ten o'clock

536
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Speaker 3: game on a Wednesday night in Los Angeles, and then

537
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Speaker 3: a two pm on a Friday in Chicago, so we

538
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Speaker 3: have that Thursday off in between, thankfully, and then we

539
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Speaker 3: get back from Sunday in Chicago, we have the Monday off,

540
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Speaker 3: so two off days again right there in four days

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Speaker 3: before we come home for a beautiful home stand against

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Speaker 3: the Twins.

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Speaker 1: The Rockies, and Nationals.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one, which is nice because then we

545
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Speaker 3: go out west again for the third time in the

546
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Speaker 3: first five weeks of the year to the Angels. That's

547
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Speaker 3: a Friday, Saturday Sunday, and then three in Colorado, Monday, Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Wednesday off on Thursday and Friday Saturday Sunday in Arizona. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's uh, that was May tenth.

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Speaker 1: I got you too. And we're going to be playing

551
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Speaker 1: in one, two, three for five West Coast time zone cities.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's a lot of off days.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great schedule, though in terms of

554
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Speaker 1: days off for the Mets.

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Speaker 2: It is a bad schedule in terms of travel.

556
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Speaker 3: And then we also get the Mariners and the Padres

557
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Speaker 3: the first week of June, and I think we're done

558
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Speaker 3: with the West Coast after that, maybe no more West Coast.

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Speaker 3: I think we play most I think we played the

560
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Speaker 3: whole second half in the Central and Eastern time zone

561
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Speaker 3: because we go.

562
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Speaker 2: To Texas this year, because they came to us.

563
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Speaker 3: That second half we are it's at Texas, that's in

564
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Speaker 3: September next time. So after June like tenth, the next

565
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Speaker 3: time we go past the Central time zone is September

566
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Speaker 3: twenty second. Fantastic, which is that is nice, But that

567
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Speaker 3: first six weeks is going to be a slog. And

568
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Speaker 3: with that, because of all those off days, we don't

569
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Speaker 3: need six, and for the first three rouks you don't

570
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Speaker 3: need five. I'm sure maybe give guys days off, the

571
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Speaker 3: travel will be a lot. You probably carry six. But

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Speaker 3: that's where I think mostly Tobias Myers comes into the equation.

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Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, he's a good guy to have,

574
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Speaker 1: just be like multiple innings in case someone does need

575
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Speaker 1: to be pulled early.

576
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Speaker 3: And David certain specifically said he's being stretched out of

577
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Speaker 3: a starter, So it seems like that's it's going to be. Basically,

578
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Speaker 3: he's going to be in Syracuse ready to start spot

579
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Speaker 3: stars whenever we.

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Speaker 1: Need which I listen, I'm in. We love the Mets

581
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Speaker 1: pitching death that they have. We know that it might

582
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Speaker 1: not be the sexiest rotation by all means. Adding Freddy

583
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Speaker 1: Peralta to Noel McLain helps a lot. But Mets have depth.

584
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Speaker 1: That's something that sure good teams have.

585
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Speaker 3: Good teams have depth, and it is nice that Tobias

586
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Speaker 3: Myers can kind of be the top of the depth

587
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Speaker 3: and TRIPLEI. So there's not a lot of pressure on

588
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Speaker 3: Tong and Scott to step in immediately, even though we

589
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: definitely will need those guys at some point this season.

590
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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see both of them, really, even Hagman, Hageman,

591
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Speaker 3: Pintaro Weninger, Like, at least we got boy, we got

592
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Speaker 3: guys down there, but a Syracuse Tobias Myers can kind

593
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Speaker 3: of just like soak all it up and not let us.

594
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Speaker 1: Worry about it early. We're also gonna have Ryan Clifford

595
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Speaker 1: and Syracuse starting the season in triple A. But he's

596
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Speaker 1: somebody to keep an eye out for for maybe that

597
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Speaker 1: that d H.

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Speaker 2: Spot at some point during this year.

599
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Speaker 1: Honestly, maybe the opposite.

600
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Speaker 3: Fascinating A code from David Stearns saying that they were

601
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Speaker 3: really impressed last year how much Clifford improved his outfield defense.

602
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Speaker 3: Whoa I said that he said the team finds him

603
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Speaker 3: viable in both corners.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me what that was.

605
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Speaker 3: That was what David Stearns said in this press conference.

606
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Speaker 3: And we've heard this stuff that we've heard the stuff

607
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Speaker 3: about Ryan Clifford getting Lasik. I'm sure it helps our

608
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Speaker 3: defense too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Of course, if you could see the ball better, it's

611
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Speaker 1: it's never a bad thing. You would never complain and

612
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Speaker 1: be like, oh man, seeing the ball too well off

613
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Speaker 1: the bat.

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Speaker 3: That is definitely a fascinating turn of events for a

615
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Speaker 3: guy the Clifford. I get this might be GM speak,

616
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Speaker 3: it probably is, but for him to go out and

617
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Speaker 3: say that that openly that they're like, yeah, we we

618
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Speaker 3: like him both corners viable.

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Speaker 1: That's super interesting if he can play the outfield. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still do think his home is for

621
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Speaker 1: space slash DH. I think, sorry, it seems like that,

622
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Speaker 1: but I mean, at this point, like does he have

623
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Speaker 1: a CNN, does he have a good old does he

624
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Speaker 1: has a gun? It seems like there's gonna be it. It

625
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Speaker 1: seems like they're probably getting a little cocky about what

626
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Speaker 1: they could do on defense's development. He played seventeen games

627
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Speaker 1: in left field last year in Triple A and four

628
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Speaker 1: and right fields. That's twenty one games in the outfield

629
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Speaker 1: when he only played played thirty.

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Speaker 3: We only play thirty four games there, so I that

631
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Speaker 3: was one that we missed last year that when he

632
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Speaker 3: went to Triple A he was predominantly playing corner outfield.

633
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Speaker 2: That's something over everyone's head, I guess.

634
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: Probably, but that that's kind of a fascinating point to

635
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Speaker 3: me because when you look at the future of this roster,

636
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Speaker 3: it just does seem like you were gonna be one

637
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Speaker 3: of those clubs that wants to keep first base pliable.

638
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Speaker 3: Not locking yourself in like that lets you take shot

639
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Speaker 3: I guy like m J. Blendez, like m jam Blendes

640
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Speaker 3: might get if a guy gets inur MJ.

641
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Speaker 2: Melendez, If a guy who's.

642
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Speaker 3: Downspring training m J blen does to get a shot

643
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Speaker 3: corner outfield, DH first base, the guy's pliable, move around

644
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: trunk syeplatoon. But like, just being able to take shots

645
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Speaker 3: on twenty seven year old m J. Melendez is a

646
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Speaker 3: nice It's a nice thing for your organization to.

647
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Speaker 2: Be able to do MJ.

648
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Speaker 1: Melendez in the lineup opening day. No, I can't say that, Okay,

649
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Speaker 1: I was gonna.

650
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Speaker 2: Say m J.

651
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Speaker 1: Melende's opening day home run bet. You're when you're hitting it,

652
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Speaker 1: you're buying a jersey.

653
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: Oh, if he is in the lineup, I will be

654
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Speaker 3: placing that wager. And if he does hit, I will

655
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Speaker 3: buy the jersey right there.

656
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Speaker 1: Then they're in the stadium.

657
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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: I like that, all right, that could be some good

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Speaker 1: mets up content right there, although I really hope he's.

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Speaker 2: Not in the lineup. That something's going wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, or it's just like, I mean, we

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Speaker 3: we keep saying it like Planco, Semi and Bashett, like,

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Speaker 3: these are not great knees. Those are six Those are

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Speaker 3: six knees I'm concerned with in general. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: it's just nice to have a guy like m Jay Melendez,

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Speaker 3: who's you know, better than the Wyatt Young's and the

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Speaker 3: bad way back Luke Rivers of the world, who's like,

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Speaker 3: can step in again. You can squint, you see traits

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Speaker 3: and there's something that can be happened there if he

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Speaker 3: could just manage to put his bat in the baseball.

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Speaker 1: Last insane guy to talk about Brian Hudson. Little Brian

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Speaker 1: Hudson talked first James, big lefty that was in the

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Speaker 1: y at one point. I don't know if he's ever

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Speaker 1: been particularly good, but just just another big lefty arm

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Speaker 1: to have.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago, he was outrageously good. Two years ago

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Speaker 3: he had a one seven e RN and zero seven

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Speaker 3: whip out per inning.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna forty forty three games, sixty two winnings, so

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Speaker 1: that's a great year. Most of those happened in the

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Speaker 1: first half.

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Speaker 3: And I remember he was a guy who I think

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Speaker 3: was like a middle reliever who was supposed to go

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Speaker 3: to the Allstar Game.

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Speaker 1: He might have gotten hurt.

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Speaker 3: He pitched a lot for Milwaukee that year twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four when they were figuring out that was before your

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00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: rebate took that step forward. That But Hudson's really odd

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Speaker 3: because he's like a straight up side armor. But he

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Speaker 3: also gets seven and a half feeted extension like gross.

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Speaker 3: So in terms of in terms of left handed pitchers

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Speaker 3: in the league who throw an arm angle below twenty degrees,

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Speaker 3: which is when you get really side army, he has

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Speaker 3: by far the most extension. The only other guy who's

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Speaker 3: comparable is Kyle Bachus of the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's an insane name. Bull out.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna be aj puck. That's the only one,

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Speaker 3: like even a guy that Chris Sale. He throws an

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Speaker 3: eight degree arm angle and he gets six and a

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Speaker 3: half feeted extension.

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Speaker 1: Hudson that extension helps him because he throws ninety two

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Speaker 1: like it's it's it's a straight up ninety ninety one.

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Speaker 3: But like you're perceived a lot of thing and that's

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Speaker 3: probably something like ninety four, which is like above average

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Speaker 3: from the left side.

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Speaker 1: He had a really nice color that.

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Speaker 3: Was his bridge pitch in twenty twenty four when he

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00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 3: was Borderline All Star. It was the four seemer of

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00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: the color the Sweeper. He just didn't throw the color

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Speaker 3: last year. He also didn't pitch a lot the White Sox.

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Speaker 3: Who knows what was going on, but I don't know

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00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 3: you like, Minter is not coming back till May, so

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00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: it's like he give a lefty a shot. He also

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Speaker 3: he comped kind of similarly our angle and extension to

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Speaker 3: Dickie Love Lady, So it might just be traits that.

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Speaker 1: We're seeking, which makes sense. And the fact that Dicky

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Speaker 1: Loved Lady had to, you know, take the cut at

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Speaker 1: some point and then when he goes away, you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: we need to get our next Dickey Love Lady. Minai

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Speaker 1: is also a guy who's about seven feetth extension in

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Speaker 1: the sixteen degree arm angle. So again it seems like

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Speaker 1: the guys who are in this Archaea type we have

723
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Speaker 1: at least tried to get them all. Hoby Milner's another one.

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Speaker 1: He's more underhand, but he can.

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Speaker 2: Actually gab him.

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00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: He gets like seven feet of extension. I'm sure the

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00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: mess of dream to get him. David serains that that's

728
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: those conversations happened one thousand percent. Hoby Milner posters up

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00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 3: in his house.

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Speaker 1: We need Hoby. But again, Brian House is just nice.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have an option, so I'm sure he's the

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Speaker 3: guy that makes the opening day roster if he doesn't

733
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Speaker 3: suck in spring training, but then possibly gets cut if someone.

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Speaker 1: Has to get cut. And then a last guy to

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Speaker 1: talk about little bag discourse here, My god, I can't

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Speaker 1: even believe we have to say any bats. Yeah, bag

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Speaker 1: watch You never watch anybody's bag. That's the first thing

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Speaker 1: you'll learn, never watch anyone's bag. But of course Yankee

739
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: fans were watching Luke Weaver's bag because he walked into

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00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: Mets spring training with a Yankees bag, which I mean,

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00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: if anyone's been around a major league clubhouse, when you

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Speaker 1: change teams, when you move teams, when it's the first

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00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: day of spring training, you.

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Speaker 2: Bring what you've got you expect.

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00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: Nobody has the Mets bag typically the day before they

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Speaker 1: get there. I'm sure Wan Soto had some Yankee stuff

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00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: with them last year at points in time when he

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00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: was in spring trading talk about something that nobody.

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Speaker 2: Gives a shit about at all. It's gonna be what

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00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: bag you bring to the game, because you're gonna get

751
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: a new one. You're gonna fill it in.

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00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: Guys were gloves that they get for other teams with

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Speaker 1: it with a different.

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Speaker 2: Team, Like it's so inconsequential.

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00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: And of course if people O could at least about this,

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00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: are the actual athletes on the field literally see them

757
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: doing it, it's no big deal. If this was a

758
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: big deal the first time this went viral, like five

759
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 3: years ago, whenever the first time someone decides to make

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00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: is viral, the guys would have just stopped it. But

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Speaker 3: it's like, all right, gonna get the bag in three minutes.

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00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: Who cares, Like, oh, now I have a spare bag?

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Speaker 1: Why not? And like this is Peter Lionzo probably showed

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Speaker 1: up to Oriole spring trading camp with a ton of

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Speaker 1: Mets shit. Also the similar color you might be wearing

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00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: Mets belts still like this ocks.

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00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: Maybe Edward Diez I guarantee he was wearing had some

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00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: Mets stuff just around when he could showed up to

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers camp. The difference is that those teams don't

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Speaker 3: have the same media scrutiny. That's just the New York

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Speaker 3: market has, especially when you have outlets that technically cover

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00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: both baseball teams. So you know, for a fact, if

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00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: you put out a tweet, an instagram post, a video,

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00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: a TikTok story, anything, you get wicked impression impressions. People

775
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: just have to take those impressions. Their bosses have to

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Speaker 3: keep their jobs. Yeah, I mean good for good for them,

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00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, no issue there. But it's just the

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Speaker 3: discourse of the you know, the media marvels to Keith

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Speaker 3: McPherson's the Michael Caves who talked about these things for

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Speaker 3: three days. It's like, get you guys, got to figure

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Speaker 3: out something else to fill the air with.

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Speaker 1: Ye I mean you know what that's telling me, it's

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Speaker 1: it's the Mets City. If if if it wasn't the

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Speaker 1: Mets City, why are we talking about them so much?

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Speaker 1: For a couple of guys who like to claim that

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00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: they don't care about the Mets and don't think about

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00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: the Mets. It's crazy how every time I see them

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00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: on the internet, they're just yap in their gums.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think it's because the Yankees payrolls officially gone up

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Speaker 1: this year compared to last year. So that was the

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Speaker 1: one slant plane. That was the one slant they had.

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Speaker 1: So at this point, you can't really say anything anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Whatever, it's such a loser conversation.

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Speaker 1: But we did have to bring it up because anytime

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Speaker 1: we get a chance to dunk on Fierson and Michael

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Speaker 1: cam we're gonna take that chance. Yeah, just again, just

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Speaker 1: to make sure no one's taking it too seriously. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't even think I saw any Mets

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Speaker 1: fans really even getting.

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Speaker 2: Upset at all.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it was I think mostly the

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Speaker 1: Mets fangs, like you guys joking. This is this is

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Speaker 1: what we're grasping at now. But that's thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's up. We did it. We had something to talk about.

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Speaker 2: That's like news.

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Speaker 1: Wish it wasn't Francisco Lenor possibly being hurt that far up,

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Speaker 1: but otherwise getting close. Spring training is getting closer and

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Speaker 1: closer for games soon. Make sure you guys are subscribed

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Speaker 1: I am Giraffnick Mark. Thank you guys for watching. We'll

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Speaker 1: catch you on the next one. Peace out, guys, Let's

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