1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Why from our nations this budget thing is going to 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: do nothing space forces. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and Politics colliding, 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: Floomberg Sound On, the insidings, the influencers, the insides. I 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of my DNA. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: The Senate map in looks a lot different than it 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: looked in. You really have a divide within Team Trump. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: The president has to do exactly what people sent him 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: here to do, which is to get it done. This 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound On with Keaven Shirley on Bloomberg and 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven h D two Saudi Arabia 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: partially restoring output at a damaged oil plant. This as 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: growing growing criticism of Iran from US politicians in both parties. 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: How will President Trump respond? We will take you through 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: all of the market, policy, political implications with what continues 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: to be an escalating situation with Iran. Meanwhile, Corey Lewandowski 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill and he's rebuffing Democrats and Trump obstruction 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: of justice hearing and Edgerton Bloomberg News Politics editors here 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: to walk us through the domestic side and the latest 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: on trade around the world with the trade go to 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: Bloomberg sound on guru. Mark Ross of Karical Global is 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: here as well. Lots to get through a lots uh 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: all of that, plus the plus the Just campaign trail. 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: Can you believe it? We're just we're wrenching closer, busy, 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: busy days. Corey Lewandowski, Senator maybe Corey Lewandowski was up 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill testifying how against House Democrats with regards 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: to obstruction of justice. And you know Anna Edrogen is here, 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: She's Bloomberg News politics editor and Nana. I mean, were 29 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: there any major bomb shells in that hearing? No, it 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: was pretty painful to watch. I mean, just it started 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: out procedurally with Chairman Jerry Nadler and ranking member Doug 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: Collins having this kind of procedural spad about whether or 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: not they and yeah, and like they had a roll 34 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: call vote to adjourn the hearing, and it just it 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: took forever to get started, and then when it does, 36 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: when it did, it was basically just Lewandowski saying he 37 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: was not authorized to say anything because because the White 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: House claimed executive privilege over his testimony, even though he 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: never actually worked at the White House. So it sounds 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: like a headache. We're going to talk about it coming up, 41 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: about the implications and whether or not he's gonna run 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: for Senate. Mark Ross is here, founder and CEO of 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: Charical Global affirm that specializes in geo political globalization communications 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: around the world. And you're in the middle of like 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: a host of various UH functions around the country. We're 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that as well. But the big story 47 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: day two, with Day four or five. But but in 48 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: terms of this week is Saudi Arabia, which has attempted 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: to move beyond the worst oil disruption in history. I 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: didn't realize this when we were reporting on it yesterday. 51 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: This is the worst oil disruption in history by assuring 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: the world that crew to exports will not suffer because 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: of that damaged facility from over the weekend when it 54 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: UH when it got taken out by a drone strike. 55 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: Now the United States has been pointing its finger toward 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: Iran UH. There have been various lawmakers on both sides 57 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: of the Aisle that have raised questions about Iran UH. 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: There's also been questions about the Saudi's ability to protect 59 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: itself with regards to securing infrastructure did you know this? 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: And five five percent of global oil output comes from 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia five percent, So Saudi Arabia is such a crucial, 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: crucial energy supplier uh in in the world. Now the 63 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: President has tapped into the national oil reserves. But take 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: a listen to what President Trump said last night in 65 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: Rio Rancho, New Mexico, Rio Rancho, New Mexico when he 66 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: was asked or I'm sorry when he was on the 67 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: campaign trail talking about a situation in Iran, and he 68 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: doubled down on why he decided to get out of 69 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: the Iran nuclear disarmament deal. Take a listen. To protect 70 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: American security, I withdrew the United States from the horrible, 71 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: one sided Iran nuclear deal. It was no good and 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: we opposed the toughest ever sanctions on the Iranian regime. 73 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Watch how that works out, folks, gonna be very good. 74 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: And so much of the debate today, at least in 75 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: the domestic political side of things, seems to be about 76 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: the Iran nuclear disarmament deal. Republicans are with the President, 77 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: say we should have gotten out of that. Democrats say 78 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: they are not. Are there any Democrats who aren't blaming Iran? 79 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: So The question that we're looking at right now is 80 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: what kind of intelligence lawmakers are going to be able 81 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: to have access to in order to make a determination 82 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: for themselves who they would hold responsible. Right now, they 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: have had access to a three page document and a 84 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: secure room on Capitol Hill and from on the Senate 85 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: and the House, just on the Senate side. And so 86 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson, Senator from from Wisconsin, said that he was 87 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: convinced by this document that Iran is responsible. Having said that, 88 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: he said he wanted more information before he was ready 89 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: to get on board with any kind of action, especially 90 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to military strikes. I want to I'm 91 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: so glad you brought that up, because that was exactly 92 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: this afternoon as all of these this was was developing 93 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: with regards to this. I just want to put this 94 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: in perspective for folks. Senator Ron Johnson, a Republican from Wisconsin. 95 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: He is a member of the Senate until and and 96 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: they get a three page document and that's secure room. 97 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: That secure room in the basement of the visitor the CDC, 98 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: the CDC and the Capitol So it's you know, right 99 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: in the secure basement area where no one can go in, 100 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: and they get a three page document, and the Republicans 101 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: are saying that they believe that this is enough information 102 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: to make iron responsible for this. What are the Democrats saying? 103 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: So it's not exactly a percent Republican and Democrat. You 104 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: also have some Republicans saying they need more information before 105 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: they're ready to and quickically blame Iran. The evidence that 106 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: they've seen thus far does seem to point to Iran, 107 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the sophistication of the attack 108 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: and some of the details such as the direction of 109 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: the trajectory of the of the projectiles. But the big 110 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: question now is what action the United States would take 111 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: and what kind of authorization the administration needs from Congress. 112 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: So there are some Republicans like Lindsay Graham of South 113 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Carolina and Marco Ruby of Florida who say that a 114 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: new a u m F A new war authorization is 115 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: not needed because the president has under the War Powers Act, 116 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: the ability to protect the United States of America. However 117 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: they're talking. There are others like Rand Paul of Kentucky 118 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: who say that this was not an attack on the 119 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: United States. Yes, the United States has about five hundred 120 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: troops in Saudi Arabia. But this was an attack on 121 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. It's up to them to respond to your 122 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: It was you know, and and and listen, I mean that, 123 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: and that Tulsi Gabbard Rampaul dynamic of Libertarian shriek and 124 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: American politics. It's it's going to be interesting. You mentioned 125 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: about the authorization. I find this fascinating because we've talked 126 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: about this on the on the program before, especially in 127 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen when drone strikes and there's this 128 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: debate about whether or not drone strikes or a use 129 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: of military force, and whether or not it's an active 130 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: war and and and whatnot. It's not in the traditional 131 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: sense where you're sending troops and whatnot overseas. Take a 132 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: listen to what Senator Richard Blumenthal said after that. Hearing 133 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: that that and has been telling us about the Democrat 134 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: from Connecticut. Take a listen to Senator Richard Blumenthal about 135 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: whether or not or what the administration's approach should be 136 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: should he decide to somehow respond to Iran. Take a 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: listen to Bloomenthal. We should be insisting at the president 138 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 1: come to Congress for authorization, not the Saudi Royal family, 139 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: and that seems to be his first interest. It's not. 140 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: The United States is first interest. So they're Senator Bluementhal saying, 141 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: not saying don't do anything with the Ron, saying, if 142 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna do something with with Theron, come talk to 143 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: the United States. And here's Chris Murphy, another Democrat from Connecticut, 144 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: also out front on this issue. Here is another Democrats, 145 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Senator Chris Murphy, on this take a listen. Or months, 146 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: we have been telling the administration that their campaign of 147 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: blind escalation with Iran was going to get this country 148 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: into a war, a war of choice. Uh, and we 149 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: are dangerously on the precipice of that conflict. So what 150 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: if if you're reading between the tea leaves and you're 151 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: trying to look at this through a political lens, the 152 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Chris Murphy, the Senator Chris Murphy's comments, Mark Ross suggests 153 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: that from a political lens, they are the Democrats are suggesting, Well, 154 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: the reason that we're on on on a path to 155 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: escalation with Iran is because the president in it withdrew 156 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: from the j c po A or the Rando Glerk 157 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: disarmament deal. And this is his fault. That and that 158 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: the campaign of maximum pressure against President Irwanna of Iran 159 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: has not worked, correct, But I think I mean here, 160 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: I think the only thing most Americans and frankly most 161 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: European capitals can agree on is that Iran in its 162 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: government is problematic. I think there's a huge debate whether 163 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: or not the tactics, whether to be a part of 164 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: the j C p o A sanctions. Uh, there's obviously 165 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: not agreement there. But you know, Iran is not doing 166 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: any favors. I mean every week they mean kind of 167 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: escalating kind of tensions, whether it be hijacking a boat, 168 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, shooting down a drone and now we have 169 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: this mysterious attack. Um, you know, Iran is actually playing 170 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: a pretty interesting game as well. They see there's obviously 171 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: dissension on Capitol Hill, but they also see there's dissension 172 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: between the US and our allies in Germany and France, 173 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: and how to handle the situation. Um, the tactics of 174 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: whether or not sanctions are working is one thing, but 175 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: clearly Iran is finding, you know, funny way to be 176 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: a problem as well. And you know, I got two 177 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: big questions. First is what does Europe to with regards 178 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: to this That's what I'm really watching for over the 179 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: next week. How does your respond to this? UH and 180 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: and will they continue to have dealings with Iran? And 181 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: also the Chinese. I mean, China has really been building 182 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: the infrastructure in Tehran and will they will that investment continue? Um, 183 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: and you know Russia obviously. Well, all right, coming up, 184 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna switch back to domestic politics. Panel stays in 185 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: at Edgerton Mark Ross. You can download the Bloomberg Sound 186 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: On podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or 187 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: by downloading the Bloomberg Business apps. You can also find 188 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: me on I Heart Radio Radio dot com and Spotify. 189 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 190 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. And you're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to 191 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surrel on Bloomberg one and 192 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven f m h D two. Again, 193 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: conress when I recognize that the privilege is not mine, 194 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: but I been asked by the White House to just 195 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: want to be happy to answer your question, or you 196 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: can just have a conversation by yourself. But if you'd 197 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: like to ask me a question, I'll answering to continue. 198 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: The reason is we don't ask me a question answer time. 199 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: This is a House Judiciary, not a house party, not 200 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: a house party. That was Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, a Democrat, 201 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: engaging with Corey Lewandowski, who testified earlier today before the 202 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: House Judiciary Committee with regards to obstruction of justice. That 203 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: investigation into obstruction of justice. Ker Lewandowski, of course, wanted 204 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: the original campaign um manager for President Trump's presidential camp Payne. 205 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg TV and 206 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Mark ross is here, founder of Terrical Global Firm, 207 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: which specializes in geopolitical globalization around the world, and and Edgerton, 208 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg News National Politics editor. I mean, not a house party, 209 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure it was an effective earring for 210 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: Republicans or Democrats. No, it absolutely wasn't. I mean, I 211 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: think both parties came out looking really bad, and I honestly, 212 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why they go through these exercises. It 213 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: just is so ugly to watch, and it's just you 214 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,479 Speaker 1: could you could see how frustrated Democrats were that Lewandowski 215 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: was just categorically refusing to respond to any of their questions, 216 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: even though he was there under subpoena. And then Republicans 217 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: were frustrated that we're having this hearing at all. I mean, 218 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Lewandowski has testified already three times before, three times and 219 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: behind closed doors, but much of his testimony has been 220 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: made public. So the only justification for this hearing, according 221 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: to Doug Collins, the ranking member is to have a 222 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: public spectacle, which it certainly was. But this is so 223 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: the Democrat The argument is that that Coren Lewandowski is 224 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: exerting executive or as ascerning executive privilege, but he technically 225 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: never served in the administration, which is I mean, he 226 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: was on the campaign, it was a close confident and 227 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: President Trump's, but he never served inside of Pennsylvania Avenue, 228 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: so he never you know, Hope Hicks was working for 229 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: the government, working for the president as certain executive privilege. 230 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: Core the Windowski never technically had that specific title. But 231 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: you know there's a Republicans say, well, it's you know, 232 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: if the if the President of the United States is 233 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: going to talk to you, you should be able to 234 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: he the president, whoever the president should be able to 235 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: have those conversations be confidential or at least one on one. 236 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: Jerry Nadler, Chairman of House Judiciary, said a quote quote 237 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: this is a cover up plane and simple. If it 238 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: were to prevail, especially while the Judiciary Committee is considering 239 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: whether to recommend articles of impeachment, it would up end 240 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: the separation of powers as envisioned by our founders and 241 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: quote So where are we and h in terms of 242 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: a potential impeachment TikTok count out? That's an excellent question, um, 243 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: and you will get a different answer depending on which 244 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: Democrat you ask. Um. Jerry Nadler says that we are 245 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: already in quote unquote formal impeachment proceedings, and what he 246 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: means by that is that the investigations that the House 247 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: Judiciary oversight ways and means committees are conducting is building 248 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: a case to decide whether or not they recommend, recommend, 249 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: recommend Maybe. I mean we don't know. I will see, 250 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: um the committee vote. They just need a party line 251 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: vote on that on the committee. Yes to already have 252 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: the House yes, they would if they wanted to. So 253 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: that'll be the next step is the House Judiciary could 254 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: potentially recommend That will be the next headline, the headline 255 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: recommend articles, and we don't know when that is. We 256 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: we don't know when or if. And I emphasize that 257 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: because I don't think Nadler would do that without getting 258 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Pelosi to sign off first. And her her line thus 259 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: far has been that you have to build a public case, 260 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: you have to bring public sentiment along with these actions. 261 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: And she knows that the look is not there yet, 262 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: So that's the word of caution. Pelosi is not there yet, 263 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: So you know, Nadler is probably gonna hold his fire 264 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: on on a more official move until then. It seems 265 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: that the Democrats will impeach Trump. The question is what 266 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Congress will do it. Will it be this Congress or 267 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: a future Congress. I think that's a question. The other 268 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: thing I think it's interesting is since the Moular report 269 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: is kind of closed down, if you will, President Trump 270 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: seems a bit lost. Like Team Trump guys like krey 271 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: Lewandowski and the rest of the team, they seem very 272 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: willing and happy to kind of have this debate because 273 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: they've got the talking points dot lockdown. The Democrats seem confused, 274 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: they don't have a salad message, and they really liked 275 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,359 Speaker 1: the fight, and I think that really helps the Republicans. 276 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt today's performance by carol Lewandowski 277 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: was a huge earned media event for his campaign and 278 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: did a lot to gather support within the Republican Party. 279 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Think he's going to run in New Hampshire? I mean 280 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: I think so, he tweeted this morning, I'm very excited 281 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,359 Speaker 1: to testify before the commits. Please to tune in hashtag 282 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Do we think I'll win in New Hampshire? I don't know. 283 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I would think of the President 284 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: gefinitely behind. That's the state he has to win in 285 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: terms of the electoral college. Who knows. I mean it 286 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: also would turn him into a kingmaker for Republican UH 287 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: presidential candidates for years to come. You know, New Hampshire 288 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: is a very interesting state in very interesting and also 289 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: uh you know, I just think of how far we've 290 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: come with these with these types of hearings. Remember when 291 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: like the Beltway would shut down, the country would shut down, 292 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: and people would be watching and streaming at work all 293 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: the different hearings with Muller and Blue, Wandowski and Roger 294 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: and now it's like, I mean, nobody apparely be because 295 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: you know why everyone has found other political entertainment. You 296 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: know what they're watching. They're watching Sean Spicer on Dancing 297 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: with the Stars. I have never My mother, if she's listening, 298 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: would be ashamed of me what I'm about to say. 299 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm never my mom's obsessed with Dancing with the Stars. 300 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: I've never watched an episode, not my cup of tea, 301 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: not you know whatever. But i watched last night to 302 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: see Sean Spicer. I'm speechless. And with that coming up, 303 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk us China trade policy folks with Mark 304 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: ross And and Edgerton. Download the Bloomberg sound On podcast 305 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading 306 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business SAP. I am speechless that if you 307 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: saw that dance. You can also find this on radio 308 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: dot com, my Heart Radio and Spotify. And Kevin cereally 309 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: speechless on Bloomberg and you're listening to Bloomberg. This is 310 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's sound on with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg one and 311 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven FM h D two. He 312 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: did the best ever period. I think he he had 313 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: a great time. He really showed that he was having fun. 314 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Um had a blast doing it, And this was not 315 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: the guy that we've ever thought we'd see before play 316 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: in the bongo drums to the Spice Girls wearing a 317 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: lime green shirt, the taff open. Uh, none of those 318 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: four things would ever come up in anything that I 319 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: would have ever done before my life. Sean Spicer. Everybody 320 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: that was Seawan Spicer on ABC's Dancing with the Stars dancing? 321 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: Was he talking about himself in the third person? And 322 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: yes he was. That was Shawn Spicer. That was in 323 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Edgerton Cheese Bloomberg's politics. Reporter Mark Ross is here as well, 324 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: CEO of Teric Globle. Did you guys watch I'm very 325 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: curious about Twitter watch. I definitely watched. I was literally 326 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: sitting at my counter eating my dinner and thought, you 327 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: know what, the guy that used to get we used 328 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: to yell at us in the White House Brady Briefing 329 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: Room is now dancing to the Spice Girls with bounder d. 330 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: It was very surreal as a journalist to watch Sean Spicer. 331 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not taking an opinion, but we were talking 332 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: in the break about why he did this. I uh, 333 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: you were saying, Mark, I mean you were saying, I mean, 334 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: for speeches too. Maybe keep him relevant. I talk Mark, 335 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: there's a story. This is kind of uh yeah, he's 336 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: out there, we're talking about him. He's made a splash. 337 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: He's really that's the word for it. Yeah. So you 338 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: know he's also made himself a Halloween costume. He is further, 339 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: there's no doubt his brand is on point and is expanding. 340 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: He should be proud of himself. All right. You know, 341 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: I I just am a reporter, so I don't have 342 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: to take an opinion to Mark. You do, all right? Um? 343 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: Moving on, there was a but did you guys watch it? Just? 344 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: I just did you? You did watch it? Right? I 345 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: couldn't watch it just because I was on Twitter last 346 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: night and it was alright, alright, So back to politics. 347 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: There was another hearing on Capitol Hill today Senator Mark 348 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: of Rubio. Did you guys follow this? Senator Mark of Rubio, 349 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: he's a Republican from Florida, has a bill out that 350 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: would examine the trade status of Anna tell Us. More So, 351 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: Rube's proposals basically to review on an in o basis 352 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: Hong Kong special trade relationship with the United States, and 353 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: part of this is to put pressure on the government 354 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: of Hong Kong and the government of China to make 355 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: sure that Hong Kong's special status enjoys the protections that 356 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: it has currently and that is not encroached upon by 357 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: increasingly authoritarian Chinese government. It gives the United States more 358 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:26,239 Speaker 1: power to back Hong Kong as they're getting you know, 359 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: however you want, as as they get pressure from from China. 360 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Now is the bipartisan support for this? There is bipartisan support. 361 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: Uncertain prospects on the Senate, although McConnell did say that 362 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: he's considering taking it up next week. So wow, next week. 363 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: That's fast for McConnell and fast for the Senate. It's 364 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: not even a knock on McConnell. It's a knock on 365 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: the Senate. But that's fast. Uh. And Mark, you're you're 366 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: carefully obviously following. I mean, you're the expert on US 367 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: China trade relations. This Hong Kong protests have been incredibly 368 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: complex for for President chi Jing paying over Beijoring, So 369 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: what's the lainess on that front? So from the cheap perspective, 370 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, the seventieh anniversary of the Chinese Caemist Party 371 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: taking over the China mainland if you will, is October one, 372 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: So the party wants to have a huge celebration. This 373 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: is obviously a huge achievement for the party. They want 374 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: to celebrate it. They're looking for no problems whatsoever. But 375 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: clearly Hong Kong is becoming a flashpoint and a proxy, 376 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: if you will, for the way the world's gonna go forward. 377 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, are going to respect the rule of law. 378 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: Can you can you have fair, safe and fair elections? 379 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: Can you speak about your government in an open way? Um? 380 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Even with the delay of a few weeks, clearly the 381 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: Hong Kong issues and going away, and there is definitely, 382 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: i would say, almost universal agreement on Capitol Hill that 383 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: the US government should do everything they can to support 384 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: the protest in Hong Kong. Alright, go ahead, and you 385 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: want to jump in there. No, I mean, I think 386 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: this is kind of an easy issue for lawmakers. There 387 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: are very few lawmakers who feel they need to defend 388 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: China's participation in this in response to these protesters, especially 389 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: when you see protesters saying holding up US democracy as 390 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: a goal to aspire to. So it's definitely an easy 391 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: thing for lawmakers, just both sides of Just to note, 392 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: uh that the Beijing delegation is set to be here 393 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: in like a week and a half, so we're still 394 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: keeping a careful time that I'm curious to see if 395 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: that happens before or after U n G. I do 396 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: we know, Mark, if it's going to be before. I mean, 397 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: you know, I think official meetings. I mean, clearly the 398 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: two sides are talking right what level it's going to be. 399 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: I think the UN General simbly provides a great opportunity 400 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: for senior delegations to speaking also with the American business 401 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: community usually engages the Chinese delegation. Spicer be voted off 402 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: of Dancing with the Stars before or after you Well, 403 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: I'm speechless. Uh know my mom after? My mom is 404 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: a die hard As with the Stars fan, and she 405 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: she I just pulled up the text and she's she 406 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: will not be happy. But she she's very a political. 407 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: She has voted for Republicans and Democrats in her life. 408 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: So she has literally Frank lenzs. She goes on talent 409 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: and she said, after he performed, he will be gone soon. 410 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: Jim Vanderbeek dot dot dot one to watch that's the guy. 411 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: That's the guy from Jawnson screen alright panel stays, I'm 412 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Cereli, chief Washington correspondent for Dancing with the Stars, No, 413 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. I couldn't help it, Anthony, 414 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: don't get mad. You're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. 415 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg and one oh 416 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: five point seven f M h D two. I'm Kevin 417 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: Sine really, folks, chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg TV and 418 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Journalism lost a giant today. Cokey Roberts, the 419 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: daughter of politicians and a pioneering journalist to chronicled Washington 420 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: from Jimmy Carter to Donald Trump for NPR ABC News. 421 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: She passed away earlier today of complications from breast cancer. 422 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: She was seventy five. I'm reading from the Associated Press. 423 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: ABC actually broke into network programming to announce her passing 424 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: UH and comments and accolades and condolences from former presidents 425 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: from George W. Bush to Barack Obama offering sympathy. I 426 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: remember I was a teenager in two thousand and four 427 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: and she appeared on Bill Maher UH and on August six, 428 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: I pulled it up August six, three thousand and four, 429 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: and she said, the truth is the notion that gay 430 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: marriage is harmful to marriage is sort of mind boggling 431 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: because these are people trying to get married. But it 432 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: seems to me if you if you want to defend 433 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 1: marriage against something defended against divorce. Cokie Roberts everybody. She 434 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: was ahead of her time in many ways and a 435 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: journalism giant, and many folks offering their condolences, I want 436 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: to offer mind as well and their remembrances. She taught 437 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: a lot of journalists how to be simply by her actions. 438 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: Mark Ross is here, founder and CEO of Charical Global. 439 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: He is for that specializes in globalization around the world. 440 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: And and Edward Tan Bloomberg News Politics editor, and I 441 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: mean Coake Roberts a giant, a giant in journalism. Yeah. 442 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: I don't usually get very excited when I see famous 443 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: people in d C. It just doesn't impress me that much. 444 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: But I totally fan girl every time I see people 445 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: from npr UM, just because I listened to it so much. 446 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: And then when you actually meet them, you see that 447 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: you know the people behind these voices that are with you, 448 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: You know during the day on your commute when you're 449 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: washing dishes, and um, you know, she was one of 450 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: those people who just always in your ear, bringing you 451 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: the news so steady. Just as a broadcaster, she co 452 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: anchored the ABC Sunday political show This Week with Sam Donaldson. 453 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: From to two thousand and two. She had a series 454 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: of books about women in Washington. We Are Our Mother's 455 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: Daughters was about the changing roles of relationships with them. 456 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: And I mean she was so so many of the 457 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: issues that we talked about today she was talking about 458 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: decades ago in absolutely and you know, just like you said, 459 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: an inspiration then, um, also something for the rest of 460 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: US journalists who aspire to I love this quote. I mean, 461 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: I mean this quote that she said to uh. I 462 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: think every journalist, maybe me, can relate to this. And 463 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: she was interviewed by the Television Academy, which of course 464 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: is a very prestigious interview if you're asked to be 465 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: interviewed by them, in two thousand and eighteen, and she said, quote, 466 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: journalism just kind of happened to me. It wasn't anything 467 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: I had planned to do. Wow. Wow. Um, all right, 468 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: So switching gears, I want to talk about what's on 469 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: our radar? Because there it was a busy day. We've 470 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 1: been all over the Capitol today with for everything from 471 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: Hong Kong to Corey the Windowski were following Saudi Arabia, 472 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: but there are other developments going on around the world 473 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: and here in the United States as well. So Mark, 474 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: I'll start with you, what's on your radar? So Israel 475 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: is having an election, there's seven hours ahead of us. 476 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: So neck and neck, neck and neck. Um. You know 477 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: this was called by net and Yahoo because it was 478 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: he was unsuccessful in forming a coalition in April, so 479 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: we called another snap election. All in the key Asians 480 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: suggests that neither of the major parties will be able 481 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: to form a coalition again. Um. But we'll wait for 482 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: the results, which we should have later this season. So 483 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: this is huge because if you put it from a 484 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: US perspective, just for a second, uh, John Bolton's out, 485 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: you have the volatility with Saudi Arabia occurring and reading 486 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: from the Bloomberg terminal quote. Exit polls show Israel's election 487 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: producing a dramatic deadlock. A dramatic deadlock with neither Prime 488 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: Minister Benjamin neton Yahoo nor former military chief Benny Gans 489 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: able to easily form a government. The lack of desisive 490 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: of decisive victory was a stunning stepback for for Net 491 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: and Yahoo, who gambled on a revote to strengthen his hand. Uh, 492 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: you know there is I guess we're not gonna get 493 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: me now. It's it's okay to say we're not going 494 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: to get the Kushner peace plan until after the elections, obviously, 495 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: but there's so much at stake here for for geopolitics 496 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: in terms of in terms of how this election plays out. 497 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: But the fact that it's even close says something. What 498 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: does it say for Net and Yahoo? Should he squeak 499 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: this out but with just a small margin? Marcross, Well, 500 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: I think what it says. I think it's to be 501 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: originally just looking into boxcies around the world here in 502 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: the US, you know what's happening in the UK as 503 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: well as real it's been really really tough for consensus 504 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: for majorities to find a path forward. I think that's 505 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: what it says. And the other issue, as you walk 506 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: through the Middle East, that neighborhood, there's a lot going 507 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: on without clear leadership out of Israel, that's gonna be 508 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: a real challenge for the US and our other allies 509 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: as we seek a path forward. It's it's gonna be fascinating. 510 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: It will also be interesting to see the reaction from 511 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: US lawmakers tomorrow once an announcement is in fact declared, 512 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: and once Israelis have chosen their next prime minister. Uh, 513 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: and to see how US politicians and progressives react to that. Uh. Well, 514 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: we'll keep you well, we'll obviously be following that, all right, 515 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: and entertid what's on your radar? Two things that I'm 516 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: looking at. One of more complete briefing for members of 517 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: Congress from the intelligence community about Iran and what we 518 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: know about the strikes on Saudi Arabia. Yes, let's start 519 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: with that. Let's because let's start with that. So what 520 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: is next? So they're going Speaker Nancy Pelosi has requested 521 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: a briefing for all members of Congress. It's unclear if 522 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be for all members of Congress or just 523 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: for members of the appropriate committees, probably Foreign Affairs and 524 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: Armed Services. So if they get this briefing, they won't 525 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: be able to tell us what they were told. But 526 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, just from the action they either recommend or 527 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: say that they would absolutely not support will have a 528 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: better idea of you know, who's the aggressor, what was 529 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: the intent, what are the potential consequences, and also what 530 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: action the United States should take. Trump's comments on this 531 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: have not been very clear. On the one hand, he 532 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: and both Vice President Mike Pence said that the United 533 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: States is quote unquote locked and loaded and ready to 534 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: attack um, which is you know, pretty bellicost frightening phrase. 535 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, politically, it is not a 536 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: good idea for this president to get involve often another 537 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: Middle East conflict the year before he seeks re election 538 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: after campaigning on getting us out of the very prolonged 539 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: conflicts in which we're already involved. Hete, I mean, you 540 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: cannot talk about these issues without talking about the political implications. Uh, 541 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: it will. One of the question marks that we don't 542 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: know is what type of reaction, if any, would he utilize. 543 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: Would it be a drone strike, would it be military, 544 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: would it be betis on the ground? I mean, no way. 545 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like we're headed in the next three 546 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: days to war with Iran. Uh. And it seems like 547 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: there's a plethora of checklists items that would have to 548 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: to happen before them. But the fact that Speaker Pelosi 549 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: wants a briefing, what I mean you and you and 550 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: I were talking briefly about this in the break. But 551 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: what we should be looking for is which representative from 552 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: the administration actually goes to present two lawmakers, because if 553 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: it is someone like Secretary Pompeo or President Trump or 554 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: Vice President Pence, that's a much stronger indication that there 555 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: might be a more um forceful response then the A 556 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: D N I represented ever whatnot? Right? Pitts did speak 557 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: with GOP senators today in their weekly Senate lunch. He 558 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: presented some of the administration's positions on around but none 559 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: of the underlying intelligence. So if there is a briefing, Um, 560 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: I think that's a good point that you made. That 561 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, depending on who presents the briefing, we can 562 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: kind of engage this seriousness of the response. We can expect. 563 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Mike Pompeo does not love these briefings. 564 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: He's tried to get out of them in the past. Um, 565 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: But you know, members of Congress wants to hear it 566 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: from him because, especially in this administration, they're not convinced 567 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: that whoever comes from the Intelligence Committee is necessarily speaking 568 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: for the administration, so it's important to have access to 569 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: those people who are closest to the principal President Trump. 570 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: All right, and next up on your radar. That's great, uh, 571 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: to to be looking out for all that, especially if 572 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out where all this story heads 573 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: because it's moving so quickly. Also gun control, This is 574 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: very much on on the minds of folks. What is 575 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell saying. I think thursdays the deadline, that was 576 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: the last we had heard that that that they were 577 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: going to get some type of issue. Ince that's on 578 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: a word, Kevin, they were gonna get some type of 579 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: directive for there's a word from the White House with 580 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: regards to what tod do on the Second Amendment. Yes, 581 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: so we are still waiting to hear what the White 582 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: House will come up with, and it's not clear what 583 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: the President will support, especially with an eye towards his 584 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: most loyal base. At an interesting conversation this morning with 585 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: Mike Brown, a Republican senator from India, and he kind 586 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: of made the point Hens country exactly country country as well, 587 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: And you know, he made the point that Republicans have 588 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: to get on board with something, and the line he 589 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: was drawing was supporting background trick background checks for all 590 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: commercial for all commercial sales, but not for individuals that 591 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: know each other. So he said, Republicans have to get 592 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: on board with something or else they're going to lose elections. 593 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Republic Democrats will have a stronger majority and then they 594 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: will be stuck gun legislation that they really don't want. 595 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: It could really dilate the second I think. I just think, 596 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: and again, what do I know, and my job as 597 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: a journalist, I'm not an opinion. I think you go 598 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: to the suburbs, or you go to independent voters, and 599 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: they just want to see that their government, not a party, 600 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: but a government, is working to address this national epidemic 601 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: because I mean, it's they don't want to have the 602 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: same conversation after every time there's a trap. I mean, 603 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: just work on it. I mean the same way that 604 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: that they're consistently working on other issues pertaining to foreign 605 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: policy and domestic policy. Work on this all the time together. 606 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: That's what I hear, at least when I'm out there 607 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: covering this stuff. All right, My thanks to Marc Cross, 608 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: My thanks to and Edgerton that's what's on their radar. 609 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: And just again, what's on my radar. Cookie Roberts just 610 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: a journalism giant, a journalism giant. And I want to 611 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: leave you with one final quote from her. She says, 612 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: times do keep changing. Thank God. That's from Cokie Roberts, 613 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: journalism giants, and we offer our condolences to her. 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