1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Day Bacate podcast. Good morning, It's Tuesday, 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: the tenth of February. I'm Caroline hepkea in London. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: And I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today, the British 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Prime Minister kir Starmer gets the backing of his cabinet 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: as rivals by their time. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Bloomberg learns the EU is preparing a path to give 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Ukraine gradual membership. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: Plus why the city once known as Europe's oil capital 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: maybe seeing a terminal decline. 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: The British Prime Minister Kre Starmer appears to have won 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: a reprieve from a potential leadership challenge after all members 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: of his cabinet backed him to stay on. It came 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: after a second top advisor resigned and the leader of 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: the Labor Party in Scotland called on Starmer to go 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: across Labour's political spectrum. MP's and ministers posted messages of 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: support on social media. Even potential leadership challengers like former 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Deputy Prime Minister Andrew Rayner and Health Secretary West streeting 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: at back Starmer. 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: Let's give Kir. Just give Kir that chance. 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: Let him set out how he's going to lead us forward. 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: West Streeting was speaking to a sky News podcast. His 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: comments came after Labour's leader in Scotland, Anna Sarwar called 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: on Starmer to step down. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 5: The situation in Downing Street is not good enough. There 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 5: have been too many mistakes. They promise they were going 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 5: to be different, but too much has happened. 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Sorrow's wing of the party faces a wipeout in Scottish 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: parliamentary elections in May, as does Labour's campaign in Wales. 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: The support gives Starmer more time in the top job, 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: but his record low polling and upcoming local elections are 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: adding to a growing sense of crisis in Downing Street. 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg has learned that the European Union is preparing options 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: to embed Ukraine's future EU membership into any piece still 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: with Russia. Former negotiations on EU membership began in twenty 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: twenty four, but the process has been stalled by objections 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: from Hungary. With more his Our chief europe correspondent Oliver Krook. 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 6: Sources say the options now under consideration include providing Ukraine 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 6: with the protections that come with EU accession up front, 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 6: as well as immediate access to some membership rights. At 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 6: the same time, the Block would give Ukraine a clear 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 6: timeframe as well as outline the steps that needs to 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 6: take in order to advance through the formal accession procedure, 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 6: which normally takes many years and requires the backing of 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 6: all member states. A draft piece plan anticipates EU membership 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty seven, with Key receiving some benefits from 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 6: membership in the interim. In response to questions from Bloomberg, 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 6: a spokesman for the European Commission said Ukraine's future accession 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 6: to the EU is part of the discussion on a 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 6: peace agreement. 52 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: Oliver Krook Bloomberg Radio. 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: European Center Bank President Christinagaut is urging politicians to push 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: for deeper financial integration fast. The Center banker told the 55 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: European Parliament the Block urgently needs to improve its growth 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: and activity. 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 7: These reforms are not obstruct there are the practical foundations 58 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 7: of resilience and sovereignty. In a world where economic power 59 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 7: is increasingly exercised through finance, technology and trade. 60 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: The ECB president is calling for faster progress on financial 61 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: market integration, cutting regulation, and creating a digital version of 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: the Euro. Despite a major report on the need for 63 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: reform from the Guard's predecessor, Mario Dragi in twenty twenty four, 64 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: the EU has so far not made significant progress on 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: implementing his recommendations. 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: France's Central Bank Governor of Francois ville War de Gallo 67 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: surprise many yesterday but announcing that he will step down 68 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: in June this year, more than a year before the 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: end of his term. Vill Ward de Gallo insists that 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: his decision to leave early is a personal one to 71 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: allow him to run a charitable foundation for young people. However, 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: the move gifts present Immanuel Macau the opportunity to appoint 73 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: the next and rather than leaving that decision to his successor, 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: shall our emoshall is Cio at bunk CS. 75 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 8: I think it's going to be very normal and usual 76 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 8: process in terms of replacements. It's true that his departure 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 8: wasn't expected, so we think that the ECB will remain, 78 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 8: let's say, as independent as it has been the case 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 8: the in the past. I think we know that in 80 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 8: their case, the moundate is more simple than in the US. 81 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 8: It's first and foremost about inflation. 82 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: Shall Ri Emoshall speaking there as polling suggests that the 83 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: far right National Rally could be in a strong position 84 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: to win next year's French presidential election. 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: Shares in US insurance brokers were pummeled and trading yesterday 86 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: after the launch of an AI tool from insurance shopping 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: platform and sure if I. The tool uses chat ebt 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: to compare car insurance rates. The S and P five 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: hundred Insurance index closed down three point nine percent, it's 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: biggest drop since October, with our third j gallaher Aon 91 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: and Marshall mclannan down significantly. The UK's insurance industry is 92 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: increasingly seen as a bedrock of the City of London, 93 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: while France and Germany also have sizeable insurance sectors, but 94 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: there are those who doubt it can replace the core 95 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: business of insurance brokers. 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: In a new analysis of living standards, the think tank 97 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: The Resolution Foundation says a typical lower income British household 98 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: would have to wait one hundred and thirty seven years 99 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: to see its living standards double. 100 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's U and Potts has. 101 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 9: More hyrants and low pay mean work is no longer 102 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 9: a root out of poverty for millions of families in 103 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 9: the UK. That's the conclusion of a report called Unsung 104 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 9: Britain from the Resolution Foundation. It says incomes for poorer 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 9: families are set to grow just zero point five percent 106 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 9: a year across the twenty twenties. In the forty years 107 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 9: up to the mid two thousands, the typical disposal of 108 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 9: incomes of working aged families in the poorshlf of Britain doubled, 109 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 9: growing by one point eight percent a year in real terms. 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 9: The report says that for many in work, poverty has 111 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 9: become a bigger issue than worklessness in London. 112 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: I'm you in parts of Bloomberg Radio. 113 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: And those are our top stories for you this morning 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: and now. In terms of the market, stocks are at 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: or around record highs. The MSCI All Country World Index 116 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: up two tens, MSCI AS Pacific Index at one point 117 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: three percent to an all time high, the nick A 118 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: two two five also an all time high. Europeans stop 119 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: futures that are actually in the red nows that futures 120 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 2: are also lower. 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: This morning. 122 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: The one has surged of the Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index 123 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: slightly weaker dollar this morning. President Trump saying that his 124 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: fed pick Kevin Walsh can get the US economy growing 125 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: at fifteen percent or more versus two point four percent currently. 126 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: Also results from currying out this morning, so comparable revenue 127 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: down ten percent, not quite as much or as bad 128 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: as had been expected, So that when it comes to 129 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: earnings and the markets this morning in. 130 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: A moment, more on the reprieve for k Starmer at 131 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: least for now. Plus is the UK's North Sea oil 132 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: and gas industry in terminal decline. But another story that 133 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: we've been reading this morning, the man who became famous 134 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: for his work on touch screens has gone back to buttons. 135 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: It's a former Apple designer, Johnny Ive who's unveiled his 136 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: design for Ferrari's Luche model, which Mark German writes rejects 137 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: the prevailing tech industry vision of autonomy and screen dominated interiors. Instead, 138 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: it's got plenty of switches and physical controls, putting the 139 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: emphastas on the act of driving itself. Now, there are 140 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: some Johnny I've hallmarks in there, some aluminium components and 141 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: leather work as well. But interestingly, Johnny I've actually told 142 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: Mark that electric cars don't need to have a digital 143 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: interface doesn't have to be all big screens and touch screens, 144 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: and actually there's value in having buttons to press relief. 145 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 10: It is. 146 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: It's very on brand, isn't it for Ferrari the whole 147 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: driving experience. I mean, remember, this is an evy vehicle. 148 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: Is it going to have the raw There's been a 149 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 2: huge debate about that in the you know, for car heads, 150 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: but I just like this that to me, it all 151 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: it's about sensory design. Are we returning to the idea 152 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: you know that William Morris frankly pioneered about having in 153 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: your houses nothing that is not useful or that you 154 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: believe to be beautiful. 155 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: I think it's really nice. 156 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: And of course, Johnny I've would surely be aware of 157 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: the arts and crafts movement in the UK. So yeah, touch, 158 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: touch buttons and knobs and things I think is amazing. 159 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: Okay, you can read that full story on Bloomberg dot 160 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: com or put a link to in our podcast show Notes. 161 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: Let's bring you up to date though on the political 162 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: turmoil in the UK. The Prime Minister appears to be 163 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: safe in his job for now after his ministers came 164 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: out to support him following criticism of his appointment of 165 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Peter Mandelson as ambassador to the US. Our UK BOLDUC 166 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: supporter James Wilcock is with us now for more James, 167 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: why did the cabinet choose to come out and support 168 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: of Keir Starmer? 169 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 4: I think to understand this, you've got to separate it 170 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: into what's public and what private. Steven, so publicly we 171 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: know there was a very very very good operation by 172 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: Downing Street where in the kind of fallout from the 173 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: Scottish leader Anastaa calling for Kiirs Starmer to go, which 174 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 4: again to underline it is the most senior person in 175 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: labor yet and a country leader of the party calling 176 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 4: on the Prime minister to go. You had within the 177 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: hour or two that followed every single cabinet minister bar 178 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: Nune being rung up by Downing Street and saying will 179 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: you back the Prime Minister? If so, will you put 180 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: that on social media now? And they all did so publicly. 181 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: It was a good operation. Then in the PLP meeting later, 182 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 4: the meeting with sort of the rank and file MPs, 183 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: MPs that Bloomberg spoke to on the record were unanimously effusive, 184 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: saying it was the best speech they'd ever seen Starma 185 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 4: give saying he came out fighting now to the private 186 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: stuff off record, so I cannot name these sources. One 187 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: MP Tod Bloomberg that none of Starmer's potential challenges is 188 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: ready to launch bid to replace him. So they had 189 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: little choice but to declare loyalty and asked with another 190 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: one saying that they had bottled it. And so you 191 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 4: can build a picture here of a party that is 192 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: deeply unhappy but is not ready to contemplate regicide. 193 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: Yes. 194 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: Interesting, does this mean that a challenge is off the table? 195 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: Off the table? 196 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: Four? Now where do we go from here? 197 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 4: I think there are three things we learnd. Point one, 198 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: as I've kind of already covered, no one wants to 199 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 4: be the person wielding the knife here. There is a 200 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: silent majority currently in the Labor Parliament for keeping Starmer 201 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: in place. Point two and this is the thing I 202 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: think we might have missed. Regional parts of the party Scotland, Wales, 203 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: in Manchester, Berlin, Yorkshire are furious and this they are 204 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 4: facing losses in May. They're going to hit them far 205 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: worse than anyone in Westminster. They might be the spark 206 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: that does this. And point three Starmer is weak badly 207 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: damaged and has had an unusually public display of anger, 208 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 4: has lost two of US top aids after we're on 209 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: air yesterday. The Director of Comm's Tim Allen also quit Caroline, 210 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 4: and there are reports in the Guards and Times this 211 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: morning that the cabinet second and most senior civil servant, 212 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: Quis World, may also be on his way out. 213 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 8: James. 214 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: All of this is happening at a time when the 215 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: UK economy is actually starting to show signs of improvement. 216 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: I mean quite step back for a moment from all 217 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: the political misery and smell the economic roses. Businesses most 218 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: optimistic in seventeen months, house prices bouncing back all time highs, 219 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: the Bank of England cussing base rates, expecting inflation to 220 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: return to was two percent target in spring. And there 221 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: is even talk, dare I say it, of a revival 222 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: in productivity. So to quote Callum Pickering from Peel Hunt, 223 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 4: the chief economists, if Starmer can just hang on a 224 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: few months, the narrative can turn in his favor. Well, 225 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 4: I will say to around us office, there's another target. 226 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 4: If Starmer survives to thirty seven more days, he we've 227 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 4: had a longer tenure than Richie Sunak very interesting. 228 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, James, thank you so much for being with us. 229 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: Our UK politics reporter James Wilcock, stay with us. 230 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: More from Bloomberg Daybakeube coming up after this. 231 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: The North Sea oil and gas was once a significant 232 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: source of revenue for the UK. Today it's in terminal 233 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: decline and the political fighters on going in Westminster over 234 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 1: whether the industry is worth saving. Our energy reporter Algatanas 235 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: joins us. 236 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 3: Now for more on this, I'll go. 237 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: The UK has been retreating from oil and gas as 238 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: part of the energy transition. 239 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: What state is the industry in now? Well, oil and. 240 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 10: Guests production started about fifty years ago in the British Nazi, 241 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 10: so you can imagine it's now very mature base, which 242 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 10: is ninety percent depleted for commercial resources. According to Wood McKenzie, 243 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 10: so oil and guests output has fallen to less than 244 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 10: a quarter of its peak in the aging Nazi, while 245 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 10: jobs supported by the industry by ail in guests they 246 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 10: more than halved. And in addition to declining output, the 247 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 10: industry is also suffering from high taxes, in particularly windfall text, 248 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 10: which was introduced by the Conservative government after Russia's invasion 249 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 10: of Ukraine's and energy crisis soaring, so although prices have 250 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 10: since retreated, the windfall tax was extended and increased several 251 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 10: times until twenty thirty and that has chilled investment in 252 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 10: the industry, with some producers deciding either to merge or 253 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 10: to sell their assets in the position of the sea. 254 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: So then what's the government's plan for the North Sea? 255 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: What is the industry view of it? Then if you 256 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: say some are leaving already, So the. 257 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 10: Labor Party made it clear that there will be no 258 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 10: new exploration licenses as part of the energy transition, but 259 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 10: at the same time the government acknowledged that fossil fuels 260 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 10: will remain for decades to come, in particular because like 261 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 10: about one hundred twenty thousand direct and indirect jobs are 262 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 10: supported by ailing gets. So last year the government released 263 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 10: a non Sea future plan that will help to protect 264 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 10: existing no sea jobs while the energy transition is happening, 265 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 10: and at the same time will help workers to move 266 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 10: into clean energy industries. So the government believes it's clean 267 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 10: energy push would create more than four hundred thousands jobs 268 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 10: by the end of this decade. And separately, it's set 269 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 10: aside twenty million pounds fund to help not see workers 270 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 10: to retrain and to move into renewables. 271 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: So does this mean that the oil and gas industry 272 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: is gone on the way out or can it be revived? 273 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 10: What we need to understand that the decline of the 274 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 10: industry is inevitable mid following production in the aging basin, 275 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 10: and everyone understands that, but the question is how fast 276 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 10: that decline will be. The industry believes that write policies, 277 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 10: including replacing the windfield text and allowing more drilling more exploration, 278 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 10: can boost investment, say jobs help to cover about half 279 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 10: of the UK's demand by twenty to fifty and create 280 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 10: more taxes for the nation's budget. But activists disagree and 281 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 10: they say that the SHEIP has sailed with the UK's 282 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 10: growing dependence on inputs and the nation should be ramping 283 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 10: up renewables. 284 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah quite tough then for Aberdeen, Well that's true. 285 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 10: The city actually had one of the UK highest concentration 286 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 10: of millionaires, but today Aberdeen's job market is among the 287 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 10: weakest in the UK. And you can see empty store 288 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 10: France on Aberdeen's Union Street. It's the main shopping district 289 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 10: in the city. It was interesting one of the people 290 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 10: we talked to was Paul do Yo, who moved in 291 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 10: Aberdeen more than three decades ago and now he's a 292 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 10: professor having Robert Gordon University's Energy Transition Institute in the city, 293 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 10: and he said, like Aberdeena has navigated the industry's inevitable 294 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 10: fall four years lately, he said, so it moved from 295 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 10: a managed decline to a much more accelerated one and 296 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 10: the impact is unavoidable. 297 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 298 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 299 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 300 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 301 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 302 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 303 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 304 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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