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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck Now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Oh hi, their kids. Let's do it live on a

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition. Merely bow the great z.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you, buddy, Yes, certainly good.

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Speaker 2: Do we got anything to get to you? Wanna do?

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Speaker 3: Curb?

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Speaker 2: You want to do like twenty minutes of curb.

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Speaker 3: We got I'm actually actually we have a lot.

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Speaker 2: We have news, a lot of news.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot, a lot to get to them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we had the voice that I did a

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Speaker 2: football meet sandwich yesterday because of all the stuff that

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Speaker 2: was going on, I heard the show. That's a fun No, no,

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Speaker 2: you had a very appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Funeral for my my good friend David Morris's father. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: very sad day. But here now and yeah, obviously that's

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Speaker 3: a that's a fun that's a fun one there, it's

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Speaker 3: a fund This is a fun time of the year.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird time. So I started the show with

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Speaker 2: this yesterday, like understand where we do this show and

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Speaker 2: that we have to say things like reportedly because this

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Speaker 2: is where it is, so nothing is official until Wednesday

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Speaker 2: at four. Now I think this isn't reportedly. I just

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Speaker 2: think this is stupid, okay, that you have legal tampering

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Speaker 2: where these deals are being done. Agents are giving it

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Speaker 2: to the people who break the news, and the teams

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Speaker 2: are supposed to not do anything. And it's like business.

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Speaker 2: The league is going nuts right now and you can't

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Speaker 2: do it officially until Wednesday. Just start it Sunday at

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Speaker 2: midnight or whatever, like, just start it then so that

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Speaker 2: we can just all go at the same time. What's

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Speaker 2: the point of this? It should just be this is

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Speaker 2: this is this is free agency. Why did they do this?

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Speaker 3: It's only been maybe one time. I want to say,

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Speaker 3: was that Lashawan McCoy who was the running back that

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Speaker 3: signed somewhere and then it changed.

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Speaker 2: I think it was McCoy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it doesn't happen often, never right, and it's like, what's.

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Speaker 2: The point, Like, just make this free agency?

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Speaker 3: Just make it free agency. And by the way, it's

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Speaker 3: been a big uh quite a bit has happened, even

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Speaker 3: just on our drive over here as we did, I

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Speaker 3: what did I miss on the way over here, Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I did see that, Dereck Henry to the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I was tracking down a You know when you get

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Speaker 2: a I had ordered some components for NBC's lacrosse stuff,

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Speaker 2: and two of the components came already, and I was

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Speaker 2: waiting on the third. And you get the confirmation from

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Speaker 2: FedEx that says your package was delivered, and you go

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Speaker 2: to the front door and you go, act, no, not

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Speaker 2: not delivered, don't have it, And they said, well, look around,

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Speaker 2: and it's not here. I'm telling you. So then you

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Speaker 2: go to their thing and you see a picture of

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Speaker 2: a front door with the lacrosse shaft in front of

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Speaker 2: the front door, and you say, well, that's not my

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Speaker 2: front door. That in fact is not my front door. Now,

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Speaker 2: the great people at Dick's Sporny Goods were quick to

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Speaker 2: send me another one, but that won't be here until

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Speaker 2: next week sometime meantime, Like.

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Speaker 3: Did you recognize the door wasn't even in your name.

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Speaker 2: Not even in my neighborhood. No, not even in the name.

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Speaker 3: It's outrageous. So I had a FedEx scare the other day.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I had ordered some wine and I always have it

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Speaker 3: just held smart because.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, like it's a nightmare timing out.

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Speaker 3: So when it gets held, I often get okay, it's

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Speaker 3: going to the location. It's there, ready for pickup, and

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Speaker 3: then you can come pick it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well this time they sent me a text that said

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Speaker 3: ready for pickup. And then two seconds later, your package

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Speaker 3: has been picked up and signed for by not you

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, not me.

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Speaker 3: I was like, that's not me. And this is like

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Speaker 3: I don't think, Yes, this is value, these are valued goods.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't a mesh for a lacrossehead.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: So I call fed X and they're like, no, it

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Speaker 3: is delivered somebody you signed for it. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I didn't sign. That's not me, that's right. She's like,

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Speaker 3: oh well it says here it's delivered to your house. Said,

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Speaker 3: I'm at my house. There's no package here.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Oh well I guess we'll look into it. So

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, forget it. I hop in

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Speaker 3: my car. The FedEx location is two minutes from my house. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I am like hauling because I want to catch

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Speaker 3: Deo Stricker in the park.

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Speaker 2: You want to see what's going on. He's got a

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Speaker 2: big box, yeah, Tavy, he's got a right Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I get in there and I walk in and

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Speaker 3: I'm like hey, and they know me because like I said,

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Speaker 3: this stuff there and they were I was like, I

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Speaker 3: signed for by somebody else and it's been picked up,

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Speaker 3: and they were like, oh my god. But then I

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Speaker 2: There signing signing received.

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Speaker 3: Yes, which is they communicated that very very poorly, poor

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Speaker 2: You were there to like fight the guy potentially over

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Speaker 2: wine and yeah, he's just an employee signing guy. So

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Speaker 2: now me and de Stricker were good no names please,

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Speaker 2: but that wine that you recommended to me last week

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Speaker 2: off air was delivered over the weekend. Very good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: very good. That was that stuff was baby. That was

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Speaker 2: very no. But we don't want to we don't need

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Speaker 3: They won't know what that no runs on anything. I

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Speaker 3: want it. No, I don't know. It was by the way,

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Speaker 3: I only told you, and I think my dad, shame

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Speaker 3: on me.

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Speaker 2: Yes said, because you know what he could do and

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 3: I will I won't talk about that one because I's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no one.

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Speaker 3: I want it when I can get when I wanted.

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Speaker 2: That was very very good, Yeah, really good. Yeah one

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Speaker 2: enjoyed it as well. I very much enjoyed it. Yeah

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Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 3: They're big.

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Speaker 2: They're big, robust, robust.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like a like what we've done so far?

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Speaker 2: What a professional segue out of you?

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Speaker 4: Where do you?

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Speaker 2: How do you want to do this? Because we did

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Speaker 2: a lot. There was a lot that happened on the

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Speaker 2: weekend that you haven't had chance to weigh in on.

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Speaker 2: We have the news of the day, We have news

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Speaker 2: since we got off there because yesterday when we got

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Speaker 3: We want to treat me like I'm a guest linebacker,

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Speaker 3: and so you can.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe we should because there's all of this

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Speaker 2: stuff that has happened. There's a myriad things that have happened.

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Speaker 2: So let's just start here.

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Speaker 3: Cornicopia.

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Speaker 2: Well put, let's let's just start here. Okay, big picture.

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Speaker 2: Nathan Cleveland Browns, what are you vice president of talking?

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Speaker 2: Can I make you that vice president media personality v

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Speaker 2: pot vice president talking vice president of media. Sure Cleveland Browns, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like that. Thank you, all right, you're a VP.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: How close to their intended plan have they gotten so

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Speaker 3: I think very. I think that they there's probably still

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Speaker 3: a couple of things that they want to do, but

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Speaker 3: I think very I think Jerry Judy to kick things

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Speaker 3: off for a fifth and a sixth they're very excited about.

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Speaker 3: It reminds them a little bit of what they did

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Speaker 3: with a Mari South Florida guy went to Alabama idolized

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Speaker 3: Amari Cooper, so they got a younger Amari Cooper in

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Speaker 3: this turns out to be. So that was part one.

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Speaker 3: Resigning Zadarius was a very high priority check on that

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Speaker 3: they did. Obviously would have loved to have kept Awalk

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Speaker 3: and Taki Taki, but also thought maybe it would be

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Speaker 3: good for that linebacker room has been so the same

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Speaker 3: that maybe you know, you could have a little turnover,

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Speaker 3: perhaps find it a more specific upgrade. And I think

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Speaker 3: in Jordan Hicks you have a linebacker who's considered be

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Speaker 3: one of the best coverage linebackers in the league. He

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Speaker 3: is a leader as well. Played for Jim Schwartz in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 3: were able to say, all right, what's your what are

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Speaker 2: He's in Ohio and he's a Lakota West kid. He

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Speaker 2: was a five star linebacker out of the Cincinnati area.

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Speaker 2: He went to Texas oh State. It was a stud

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Speaker 2: esc gave me that rundown earlier.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I bet you did.

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 2: That was a big recruiting metal that Ohio State wasn't

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so they're excited to get him. They think

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Speaker 3: that can be very good. I still think there's probably

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Speaker 3: another linebacker that needs to be added to that room,

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Speaker 3: seems like, because right now you're at you know, Jordan Hicks,

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Speaker 3: you need to add another linebacker and maybe even another

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Speaker 3: kind of special teams guy, you know, Matthew Adams I

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Speaker 3: believe is still out there Kunashik, guys like that. So

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Speaker 3: I think they'll do some work there. The defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: you bring back Maurice Hurst, I think that they want

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Speaker 3: to do more there. I think you know, Shelby certainly

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Speaker 3: Rankins would be interesting. So I think there's some work

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Speaker 3: on the defensive tackle spot as well. They wanted to

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Speaker 3: get a backup. Jameis Winston is somebody that they identified as,

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Speaker 3: you know, somebody who probably is you know, certainly a

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Speaker 3: top thirty two quarterback on the planet. But because of

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Speaker 3: the way the league is now, you either have to

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Speaker 3: be really good to stay as a starter, or you

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Speaker 3: have to be really bad. Yeah, because sometimes people want

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Speaker 3: somebody who's bad to help them get draft picks. But

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Speaker 3: when you're in that kind of we'll call it, you know,

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Speaker 3: quarterback twenty to twenty eight range, Yeah, you're too good

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Speaker 3: to be bad and too bad to be good enough

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Speaker 3: to be somebody say handing me the keys as starter,

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Speaker 3: I guess unless you're Sam Darnold, but we'll to get

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Speaker 3: that in a seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a sadd thing that is. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I don't mind being chew no, but I'm like, he's

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Speaker 2: he's in the same boat with Winston and he's going

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Speaker 2: to go start and for the Raiders, he's.

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Speaker 2: And here's your quote. He love Gibbe by the way,

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Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking since talk was drafted he's been

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Speaker 2: We did the very first interview with him. We interviewed

439
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,959
Speaker 2: him usually a couple of times a year every year.

440
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 2: I couldn't think of anybody else during his tenure.

441
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 3: And he was always on the radio and whenever it

442
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 3: was somebody, Yeah.

443
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 2: He was on the present.

444
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 3: Yes, around and he's about to have his first child.

445
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the best man. He is.

446
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,439
Speaker 3: He is a heck of a heck of a human

447
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 3: being and certainly very very sad to see him go,

448
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 3: very sad to seem go. But I'm like the same

449
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 3: time happy for him because he went out and probably

450
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 3: made more money than maybe some people were expecting.

451
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: You know, you look at the linebackers, running backs throughout

452
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: the league made more money than I think people were expecting.

453
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, talked two year, seven million. Fantastic for him. They

454
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 3: got Jacobe Brissette there as well with the New England Patriots,

455
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: so some of our favorite guys are are now Patriots

456
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 3: with a VP and Elliott wolf Wolf drafted story.

457
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. I just that you think of

458
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 2: that final connection connected.

459
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 3: Piece and is an alonzo with them too.

460
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 2: He is well and we had I remember Elliott sitting

461
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 2: in here and tell us the story of scouting talk

462
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: and how much he loved him. So that was that

463
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: was that was a great story. That that all that

464
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: all came through. And then a Walk's leadership the last

465
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 2: three years has just been incredible and a great player

466
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, and we'll certainly be missed. So that's

467
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 2: that's another one. And he's another one of those guys

468
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 2: that was around all the time that you know that

469
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: was certainly on the present. I wanted to get an

470
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 2: elaboration on the Jerry Judy deal over the weekend. So

471
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: last week you and I, uh basically lined this out

472
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: and and we've talked about Jerry Judy for a long

473
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: time as a possible acquisition. You know, Andrew Berry's liked

474
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 2: him for a long time. But this is exactly what

475
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: this front office is prepared to do. When we had

476
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: ab On at the combine. They're three years out on

477
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: their cap, but they also know your cap and when

478
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: there is a chance of a of a organization either

479
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 2: being vulnerable or being undecided on what to do in

480
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: terms of compensation. We will pair a troop in and

481
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: scoop and score. You did it last year with Elijah Moore.

482
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: You mentioned Amari Cooper as well, and now you do

483
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: it with Jerry Judy, who coming out of Bama was

484
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: as crisp as you can be. It's been uneven in Denver.

485
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: They've had a lot of uneven quarterback play though in

486
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: Denver as well, but the upside is enormous with him.

487
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 3: Last two seasons, and this is something that might surprise people.

488
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: Last two seasons, Jerry Judy's averaging about nine point three

489
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: yards per target and about fourteen and a half yards

490
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: per catch. Nine point three yards per target is an

491
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 3: elite number. So the most targets he's ever had in

492
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: a season, well one hundred last year eighty seven targets,

493
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: fifty four catches, seven hundred fifty eight yards, two touchdowns.

494
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: He is a very good route runner, He is a

495
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: good down the field receiver. He has a great ability

496
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 3: to make big plays, and I think that this is

497
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: one of those you're getting somebody who probably threw no

498
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 3: fault of his own but was diminished in terms of

499
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 3: what you got out of him due to the quarterback

500
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: play situations around him. Yep, you're getting him in a

501
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: situation where he's twenty four. He's gonna turn twenty five

502
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: this year. He is still very young.

503
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 4: Yep.

504
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 3: He loves Amari Cooper, so he's gonna be playing in

505
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: some ways with his idol. I read a story on

506
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: you might know if this is true or not, but

507
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: that's why he went to Alabama.

508
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 2: Jim told that sorry yesterday on the show. He had

509
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: of course the Voice had done the research and found

510
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: the story where, yeah, that Jerry Judy went Tobama. He

511
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: idolized Amari Cooper loved him, and that's why I ended

512
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: up there. And I also think because it looked like

513
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: there was the stuff with Steve Smith on the sidelines

514
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 2: last year. There's been some off stuff yep, And all

515
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're behind a guy you idolized who's

516
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: also the ultimate professional. It's the best possible path for

517
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: career resuscitation.

518
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: And you're in a career year and you're gonna be

519
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: an offense that's gonna be spreading out and letting you run.

520
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: You're gonna get a lot of one on one matchups.

521
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: You're gonna have an excellent, as we hope quarterback into

522
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: Shaun Watson getting you the football. This is all set

523
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 3: up for Jerry Judy to this to be a trade

524
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: where the Browns bringing Jerry Judy and he becomes the

525
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: succession plan for MARII Cooper. I think this year where

526
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 3: it's gonna be great. You're gonna be able to have

527
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: I mean, now, all of a sudden, Elijah's are three. Yeah,

528
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 3: when Nick comes back, if he's let's just say eighty

529
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: percent of what he was, and if anybody can be

530
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, it will be Nick Chubb. But yeah,

531
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: you're talking about a team that all of a sudden's

532
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: gonna try it out in eleven personnel, Amari Judy, Elijah Moore, Chief,

533
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: and Nick Chubb.

534
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot going on.

535
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.

536
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. No, and it's it's one

537
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: of those ones where it's a it's a five and

538
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: a six and you had two to two five to

539
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: two sixes, So it's enoughingbut you're giving right, it's no,

540
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: it's nothing.

541
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Will it work out? I don't know,

542
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: certainly would love it too. I think it's got a

543
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: good chance to work out. But there's no risk. There's

544
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: just no, there's no risk. No, it's nothing. So it's

545
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: pure upside, all upside.

546
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: It's and it's we've seen this front office be very

547
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: nimble in these situations before and this is another example

548
00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: of it.

549
00:24:59,720 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 4: Now.

550
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: I guess is they will try to extend him now, Yeah,

551
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: My guess is he will want to wait. Yeah, So

552
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: if you can, though, you have a chance, I think

553
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: probably to lock him in at what will look like

554
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: a very very good deal.

555
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe a shorty works. Maybe we do a

556
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: short term yeah, three year something like that where it

557
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 2: works out. So I think we got through all of

558
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 2: the things we need to.

559
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: Get through for one other rounds thing. Mike Ford was

560
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: only the person who left that we didn't mention going

561
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: to the Texans, A plus special teams player, solid fill

562
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: in cornerback. We don't beat the Ravens without the way

563
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: that he played in that game in Baltimore. And he

564
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: was a beloved teammate. And I think that's the hardest

565
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: part about it is the three names that we know

566
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: that have departed, we're all beloved teammates Anthony Walker, soon

567
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: Taki and Mike Ford. Now, Jordan Hicks was the captain

568
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 3: in Minnesota and as a leader, that kind of a guy.

569
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: So my guess is that you know he's gonna be

570
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 3: able to step into that that void in the linebacker room.

571
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 3: But certainly you've lost the guys that were really really

572
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: well liked and two of whom you know, we're here

573
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: for a long long time and made an indelible imprint

574
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: on this organization.

575
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read this just from the statement in regard

576
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: to the other big announcement. Today, Cleveland is home to

577
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: several WWE superstars, including Logan, Paul the Miz, and Johnny Gargano.

578
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: Your name, not name, You're not mentioned, you're prominent in

579
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: this community. Marks the first time that Summer Slam will

580
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: be held in Cleveland since August of nineties. Why are

581
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: you not on here?

582
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 3: Because it's as several WWE superstars, But you're.

583
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: A prominent wrestling personality.

584
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm a part time AIW commentator, same same field, So

585
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: what like, come on, you're gonna be this.

586
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: It's official, We're gonna host Summer Slam. It's August third

587
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: at Cleveland Browns Stadium WW will take over the city

588
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: Stack schedule Friday Night smack Down from Rocket Mortgage on

589
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: August second, in a variety of fan of community events

590
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: in the days leading up to and after.

591
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 4: So then I just you know, I've been back for

592
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: half a day and decided to try to ruin the

593
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: Girls week already, I was like, are we gonna be

594
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: at the Greenbrier at that point?

595
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: I won't be.

596
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, you will be, not me. I will be.

597
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: I'll be here for Summerfest.

598
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, is the vice president of what

599
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: did I name you? Vice president of broadcasting? I mean,

600
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: if you want to go down that road, I think

601
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: I said vice president of media.

602
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's important for me to

603
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: be at the biggest event to be held in downtown Cleveland.

604
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: Browns Trading casually.

605
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: Well, Billion Rod will have something to say about that.

606
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Billion Rod, Come on, you're gonna have something

607
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: to say about that. So you got the Stones, Summer Slam,

608
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 2: and Billion Rod all in a couple of months, you'll be.

609
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: Able to get more people in for Summer.

610
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: For Summer Slam, it's multiple days, but it's not the

611
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: only one. First and only time it's ever happened. There

612
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: will be another Summer Slam, for sure. There's never been

613
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: a billion Rod before.

614
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, may never be another one.

615
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: May never not. It's exactly right, may never happen again.

616
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: That's what only one night only. Yep, that's the way

617
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: that goes. So the it's is it possible the great

618
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: One could be there?

619
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: I think it's very possible, and I think he could

620
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: be involved in a big match.

621
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you gonna do? If you're down at Greenbrier, I.

622
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: Will be at SummerSlam, Like that's not even at SummerSlam,

623
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: and I hope to be. I hope.

624
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: Are you going to take your nephew who you're now

625
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: getting vixed with?

626
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 3: I would if he wants to come, by the way,

627
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: I've gotta.

628
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: I got a VIC with all of them now, No,

629
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: I know they were all excited because where the hell

630
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: it's getting groceries? Yeah, get groceries, so that they were

631
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: all excited. We got a VIC with with mister z both.

632
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you miss it, you miss you miss Bootsy first

633
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: VIC give it was a moment.

634
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: Did I send you the video? Video? The video? Yeah,

635
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: that was unbelievable.

636
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: This is Summer Slam. This is Yeah, this is a

637
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: big deal. I think it is possible. My guess is

638
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: there are a lot of guys on the team that

639
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: are going to want to be a SummerSlam.

640
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're going. They started, that's the problem.

641
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why they're doing it August third, maybe before

642
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: we go before it's like or before crazy.

643
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, do we know when we're gonna be

644
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: down There are those dates released yet? I mean, what

645
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: if you fly down there the third No.

646
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: No, we would you already been there.

647
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: It would be the last day that.

648
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: Were oh, or could be coming on the back side

649
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: of it.

650
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: Could be on the back side of it. My guess

651
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: is that would be the day that like we could

652
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: maybe maybe we go Friday and come back Saturday, because

653
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: I get the Chief's gonna want to be there, there's

654
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: no doubt.

655
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: All right, So there you got.

656
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: Was your chief was there? As a Darius was there

657
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: versus there are a lot of people. There are a

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Speaker 3: lot of guys on this team there.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't training camp though it's not yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: it was season. Probably wasn't during practice though it was

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Speaker 2: Monday during Yeah, not like that this would be similar

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Speaker 2: to like during a road trip, like coming back, like

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Speaker 2: if you played Monday night, like if it'd be more

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Speaker 2: like SmackDown, like if you flew west. Let's say that

665
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Speaker 2: team flew west to play on the West coast on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday, like you guys sometimes do when you do

667
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Speaker 2: like your little vacation and you fly out there on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday, and then the guys are like, actually, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna stay. I'm gonna go to SmackDown and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: You're gonna we're gonna fly out the next day.

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Speaker 3: Now, I just think you go in early Saturday morning,

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Speaker 3: and you got Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 3: Saturday morning, walk through the final practice like they did

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Speaker 3: last year. You're on a plane by two. Your back.

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Speaker 4: We came home every Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Your back here. But we're gonna change. We're gonna change that.

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Speaker 2: You got it?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: You know people, as the vice president of talking, we

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Speaker 2: don't know people, all right, Where do the Browns go here?

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Speaker 2: In free agency? We'll get to that will also make

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Speaker 2: sense of I mean, there's been a billion moves in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. The quarterback thing is kind of done at

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Speaker 2: to book today. All right, we've gone over what we've done.

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Speaker 2: Now what you mentioned, there's a couple of things I mean,

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Speaker 2: just from a roster standpoint, you can kind of folks,

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Speaker 2: you can kind of do the math on where you

705
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: need some defensive tackles, you need some linebackers. Now you

706
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Speaker 2: have the draft to work with. Andrew Barry has always

707
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Speaker 2: approached the draft. This is how it appears that he

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Speaker 2: always wants to approach the draft that he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to have a position of needle, and then it's more

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Speaker 2: just a position of best guy, best spot. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: The last one where they had two was jed with

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Speaker 2: Will's at tackle. You knew you're gonna draft to tackle.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, there's a various position groupings that

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Speaker 2: you can go with. So, knowing what we reportedly know

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Speaker 2: now from a roster standpoint, how do you see them

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Speaker 2: operate over the next couple of days and weeks?

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Speaker 3: All right, well, let's just kind of go through it,

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00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: like let's just quickly, we'll go through it. We'll talk it,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk it out, all right. Quarterback Deshaun Jamis dtr

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Speaker 3: so three. That feels set, yep. Running Back Nick Chubb,

721
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Speaker 3: don't know when he's gonna be back. Jerome Ford, Pierre Strong,

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Speaker 3: Naim Heinz. That feels pretty set.

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Speaker 4: To me.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver, Amari Cooper, Elijah Moore, Jerry Judy, Cedric Tillman,

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Speaker 3: David Bell, and then maybe just a pure fly guy

726
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Speaker 3: for ten plays a game. What Marquis Just Burner? Right,

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Speaker 3: So that could be that could be somebody that's drafted

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Speaker 3: or could be a free agent, you know, like a

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Speaker 3: Nicole Hardman. That could anybody just a just run a

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Speaker 3: run guy, just go run tight end. You've got David Njoku,

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Speaker 3: You've got Jordan Akens, You've got Zayer, Mitchell Payden. My

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Speaker 3: guess is you could still add one tight end, and

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Speaker 3: that could be I think either you have a veteran

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Speaker 3: in Aikins, and you have Chiefs a veteran. So if

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Speaker 3: it was a rookie, that won't surprised me. If there's

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Speaker 3: a rookie that they like, yep, all right, offensive tackle,

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Speaker 3: you've got Jed Will's, Jack Conklin, Dewan Jones, James Hudson.

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Speaker 3: I think this it's a lot of tackles, Bud. I

739
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Speaker 3: think offensive tackle. Like right now, if you're asking me

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Speaker 3: right now, would it surprise me if offensive we've took

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Speaker 3: an offensive tackle on this around, I would say no,

742
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Speaker 3: And people might say, wait, a second, What do you mean.

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Speaker 3: I think the only person in your tackle room that

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Speaker 3: has a secure future in this organization is Dwan Jones. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you could be without one of Jed Wills or

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Speaker 3: Jack Conklin next year. You could be without both of

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Speaker 3: Jed Wills or Jack Conklin next year. And James Hudson

748
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Speaker 3: has shown that he's a serviceable backup. But if you

749
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Speaker 3: can upgrade there, I think that you probably would want to.

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Speaker 3: So I think another offensive tackle now that could be

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Speaker 3: a VET, or that could be I think an early

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Speaker 3: second third draft pick I think could go could go

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Speaker 3: there often guard, you have got Wyatt Joel. My guess

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Speaker 3: is you bring back like a Michael Dunn.

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Speaker 2: They did, in fact, reportedly bring him back.

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Speaker 4: They did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that just happened in the last five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Well how about that?

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Speaker 2: How about that? Well well this according to his agent,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if you have to say, reported

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Speaker 2: David when the agent was saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well so okay, So they got white Teller Joe Patonia,

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Speaker 3: Michael done and then like Luke Whipler showed that he

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Speaker 3: could play here m hm, and I thought did a

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Speaker 3: pretty good job. So maybe maybe a guard in the draft. Maybe,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Center, you got Ethan Posik, Whippler, you know,

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Speaker 3: could Nick Nick Rris could come. So I think you're

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Speaker 3: pretty good there. Defensive end, I think you're you're done done.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: You've got Show, you got Miles, You've got Zadarius, you

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Speaker 3: got Obo, you got Alex Right, and you've got Isaiah

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Speaker 3: McGuire who flashed definitely, and I think is Isaiah McGuire's

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Speaker 3: body matures that he can maybe good do in year

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Speaker 3: two what Alex Right did in your one talk to

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Speaker 3: some people they thought actually he was ahead of Alex

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Speaker 3: Right after his first season, and we saw the huge

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Speaker 3: jump Alex Right made year two. So defensive end's done,

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Speaker 3: boom done. Defensive tackle right now, we've got Dalvin Tomlinson,

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Speaker 3: Maurice Hurst and c i Eca definitely one to two

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Speaker 3: more And this could be this could be a VET

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Speaker 3: and a draft pick could be both. Right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I can see a defense tackle going with the early

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Speaker 3: pick as well.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Linebackers as we sit right now, We've got j Okay,

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Speaker 3: We've got Jordan Hicks, We've got Tony Fields, We've got

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Speaker 3: my mood dea body, We've got Charlie Thomas who they

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Speaker 3: do like, those are last year's underrafted. So I think

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Speaker 3: maybe one vet who's a special teams guy, like maybe

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Speaker 3: Matt Adams comes back, and then you could draft a

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Speaker 3: rookie as well. But you got three youngish guys corner

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Speaker 3: fully loaded. Yeah, so you're I guess I can think

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Speaker 3: of my top four. I don't know really what I

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Speaker 3: have beyond that. You hat Denzel, You've got MJ, You've

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Speaker 3: got Greg, and you've got cam Mitchell.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the other thing is is like at this point,

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Speaker 2: that's all you need to be. You know, you get

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Speaker 2: the you're gonna have the bottom of free agency. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna have undrafted guys like you can. Yeah, and there

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Speaker 2: were very good at that, very very good at there.

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Speaker 3: Safety. You know, it surprised me if they had one

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Speaker 3: more safety but nothing. Maybe Rodney McLoud comes back, something

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Speaker 3: very cheap, better a minimum because you've got Delpit, Jan Thornhill,

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Speaker 3: d Anthony Bell who showed that he can play. And

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Speaker 3: let me tell you something, they are high on Ronnie

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00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: Hickman in this organization. Kicker as d hop punter is

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00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: still to be determined because Bhork is a free agent.

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00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: I think you'd love to have him back. And then

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Speaker 3: your long snappers Charlie Hewlett and right now your return

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Speaker 3: specialist to me looks like Naim Heinz. So that's kind

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Speaker 3: of where that's where you are right now.

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Speaker 2: You got to be right at your your number. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's the tackles is a room zeus counting it up.

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Speaker 3: That's twenty five on offense right there. Yeah, yeah, so

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00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: you got you got I think four four or five

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00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: spots to play with offensively, a tight end if you

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00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: count of tight end, and you're going to get ad

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Speaker 3: some more on the defense, defensive tackle, lineback or defensive back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's where you stand there, in good spot,

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Speaker 2: in a very good spot. The league has been nuts.

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00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: You can get a chance to wig in on a

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00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: lot of this stuff. Lots of stuff I want to

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00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: run by you. The Ravens and the Bengals both change

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00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: their running back situation in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that. See how it stacks up.

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Speaker 2: You haven't even a chance to win on Russ Russ

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Speaker 2: to the Steelers. We haven't done that yet, So we

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Speaker 2: things in the division.

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Speaker 3: Zach Bosses was good this year with the Colts, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he's a full time every down back.

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Speaker 3: They like Chase Brown. Is that his name right, Chase

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Speaker 3: Brown from Illinois, from Illinois, So that's interesting to me.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot the running backs and the contracts they

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Speaker 3: got seems so counter to what we had been hearing

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Speaker 3: or thinking or learning about the position, and it was

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Speaker 3: it's really out of I thought the Packers. I think

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Speaker 3: the Packers actually have a pretty solid roster right now.

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Speaker 3: But to sign Jacob's release Aaron Jones, I mean, if

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00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: you're Minnesota, you just land into Aaron Jones.

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Speaker 4: Easy.

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Speaker 3: That feels pretty good. Now, Sam Darnold piece of it,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's a little bit different that to me.

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Speaker 3: Says that Kyle and Kevin O'Connell have a good relationship.

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Speaker 3: There you go, n Kyle is like, nah, dude, he

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Speaker 3: can play.

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Speaker 2: There's no questions. As soon as I saw that happen. Look,

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Speaker 2: they wanted to have cousins back, and Quasi has ties

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Speaker 2: of the ninety worked with the Niners Ross. They wanted

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Speaker 2: to bring cousins back once cousin goes to Atlanta. Now,

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Speaker 2: I think you had left at the combine when we

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Speaker 2: had the conversation with Chris Rose about Atlanta. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: was me and Chris so I can't remember if it

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Speaker 2: was on air off, but we were talking about fields

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Speaker 2: to Atlanta and he says, and he was he like,

870
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: knew somebody with the Rams and he's like, no, they're

871
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: not gonna want that, like they're gonna want the Pinpoint guy.

872
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna want its open throw it there, that's Cousins.

873
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: And so it was at that point that you then

874
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: he said, well, yeah, that makes all the sense in

875
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: the world. Like Arthur Blank's running out of patience, They've

876
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: got a ton of weaponry. All of a sudden, Cousins

877
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: is available. Because up until that point, the Vikings, all

878
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: of their talking was we want Cousins back, yep. And

879
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: I had a feeling that they I think that was legitimate.

880
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: I don't think that was smoke. That they probably did

881
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: want Cousins back, not at that money, not at ninety million, guaranteed.

882
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure they didn't want any Nobody.

883
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: Nobody has maneuvered financially better than Kirk Cousins has in

884
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: the NFL.

885
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: It's upwards of a quarter billion in career earnings before

886
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: this deal. Yeah, yeah, he's crushed it. And the crazy

887
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: thing about him is, and he's so great on that

888
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: quarterback show on Netflix. He's so great. At no point

889
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: do I ever feel like, at any point in his

890
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: career have I ever said, well, you can go win

891
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: a Super both Kirk Cousins never felt like that. He

892
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: always feels like he's somewhere rank between eighth and fourteenth

893
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: in quarterback. But that's good. That saves jobs, that that

894
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: saves coach. That makes you a playoff team. That makes

895
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: them absolutely a playoff team. They're the favorite in the

896
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 2: South for sure, for sure, for sure and in the NFC.

897
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: They got a very good defense. He got a ton

898
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: of weapons and he will do what Zach Robinson wants.

899
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: He'll execute that offense and he's been executing under O'Connell

900
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: and same when he ran in Washington when he was young.

901
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: It checks every box.

902
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: No, no, he's gonna yeah, absolutely, and they're gonna be good.

903
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: And don't they still pick eighth? Yes, so they could

904
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: pick one of those three receivers.

905
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they could get Romadoozia or the kid from LSU,

906
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: the neighbors kid from LSU. Yeah for sure.

907
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they get that, they have that London Pits bijon. Yeah, Cousins, Yeah,

908
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: that's problem. They're gonna be just fine. I like that

909
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: team a lot. By the way, congrats, I don't know

910
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: if you got I'm sure guys like that by yesterday.

911
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: Congrets the baker we did on his deal. That's an

912
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: awesome deal for him, And yeah, good for him, that's

913
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: what they're Two years ago, you thought he might be

914
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: like out of the league.

915
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: Well, I said this to Jim yesterday, like it's a

916
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: great credit to his intestinal fortitude that he survived being

917
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: traded here for a bucket of balls to Carolina, that

918
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: he was usurped there and then released, and then he

919
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: had that great Thursday night for the Rams and that

920
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: like rejuvenated him. But then he there were no storting

921
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: jobs for him, so he had to go compete with

922
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: Kyle Trask wins that job. He actually had a year

923
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: last year with them that mirrored his year here, the

924
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: COVID year. I mean it's almost exactly the same. It's yeah,

925
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: sixty four, six, six and eight and twenty eight and ten,

926
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: like it's almost a mirror season to the one that

927
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: he had here when he had a very very good

928
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: year here. So yeah, tremendous out of him. And forgetting

929
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: that thing locked up. I think the other big thing,

930
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: and this is categories this under something dead wrong about

931
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: is Justin Field is not going to start in the

932
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: NFL next year. There's no more dance partners for him.

933
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: There are no spots left unless it's a bargain basement

934
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Denver for a sixth round pick. Situation is.

935
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: Min choosing Denver, minschoos in Vegas and Vegas to start.

936
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: Who's in Denver?

937
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: Nobody? Right now, that's the only thing left, and we

938
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: have all right on it. At two thirty we can

939
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: ask him, but that the note at the combine, the

940
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: thinking with Fields was a day two pick and a

941
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: Day three pick at two and a four. Yeah, that

942
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: ain't it. Now it's going to be a five.

943
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 3: What's going on? He's better.

944
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: I don't understand. I don't understand. It reminds me very

945
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: much of how you and I were with Winston, Like

946
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: remember that year with Winston. We're like, why are he

947
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: through for five thousand yards? I know he's interceptions? Why

948
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: aren't people? What are we missing? I know he wasn't

949
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: at Ohio State at all. I have no idea, but

950
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: it's it's it's crazy. So he's he's got no right now,

951
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: it's only Denver. Everything else is locked.

952
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: Up right, so AFC East we've got Josh Allen, Aaron

953
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: Rodgers to uh Jacoby Brissette slash traff pick slash pick

954
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 3: with New England AFC North. You've got all done, Burrow.

955
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: With your boy yeah, Lamar Lamar.

956
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: Dashawn and Russ and Russ the nose.

957
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: You haven't even a chance to Wayne on that.

958
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: The notion that anybody thought they were just gonna go

959
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 3: with you, it was the dumbest thing ever.

960
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: Yesterday we had Jim on. I retold the story about

961
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: when we had Brooke prior on and Brooke was just

962
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: was reporting what she knew and what the organization had said,

963
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: and you at one point said, well would you do that?

964
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: And she goes, no, I wouldn't, but that's what I

965
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: think they're going to do. But they weren't. They were

966
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: never going to do that. They're just too smart. They

967
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: get Wilson on, you want to talk about a bucket

968
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: of balls for about a million bucks. And I went

969
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: over this with Jim yesterday. And it's funny when people

970
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: talk about people you did the the stats on we

971
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: were doing in the break about the Gus Edwards stats,

972
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: the rushing yards, like the rushing touchdowns. The same thing

973
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: you could apply to Wilson. We've done it before on

974
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: the show. But if he's sixty seven sixty eight percent

975
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: passer what he was last year in Denver they were

976
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: a playoff team with basically a one to one touchdown

977
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: to interception. If they go to a three to one

978
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 2: touchdown to interception, they're gonna be a problem. Now he's

979
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: checked down, Charlie. He throws the most passes behind the

980
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and within five yards of line of

981
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 2: scrimmage in the league last year. Yes, but so that's

982
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: gonna frustrate Pickens. But he's not gonna turn it over.

983
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: He's gonna be accurate, and that with that defense and

984
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 2: their weaponry, it's a problem. Continue all right.

985
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 3: AFC South is Trevor Lawrence, Anthony Richardson, CJ. Stroud, Will

986
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 3: Levis like is see that entrenched?

987
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: No, but I don't think that they would add fields

988
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: to that room. I think they would give Levis like

989
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: a full go of it, don't you think.

990
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

991
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 3: AFC West mahomes Herbert Minshew. I can't believe the Raiders wouldn't.

992
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: Take That's what I thought. No, but they went Minshew instead.

993
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: Denver is open. NFC East. You've got Dak hurts.

994
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: Com, he's got Howell. Didn't they sign Mariota to how

995
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: Howell Mariota, and then they'll draft a quarterback. Yeah, and

996
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: then Dimes.

997
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: Is he just I mean, they guess they are stuck

998
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: with him. They paid him. So the NFC North.

999
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: We've got Caleb Williams Donald yep.

1000
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: Love Williams love. What if they trade out of the

1001
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: first pick and made their keeping fields.

1002
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: Well right, But even that they would have screwed up

1003
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: because the teams that potentially could have wanted that have

1004
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: now made other moves, you know what I mean. But

1005
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: they should have done it last week at the Combine,

1006
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: or two weeks ago at the Combine.

1007
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: So NFC South is Baker, Carr, Cousins and Young and

1008
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: Bryce Young yep. And then the NFC West is pretty Stafford, Kyler,

1009
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: Kyler and Geno Smith.

1010
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: So I could see Seattle bring That's funny, I said

1011
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: Seattle too. I could see Seattle bringing him in. I

1012
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: could see den on a let's kick the tires. But

1013
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: he doesn't fit with what Sean Payton would want. I

1014
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: don't think at all.

1015
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: Well, I've got some news for you that won't be happy.

1016
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: Make you happy? Oh God, Gibbey Patrick, queen to the squealers, Oh,

1017
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 4: for God's sakes, three years forty one million.

1018
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 3: Drew's live reaction right there when you said that, yes

1019
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: it was on screen.

1020
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: Oh man, there he is sure.

1021
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: That was a great reaction.

1022
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 4: Chefter through Marcus Spears.

1023
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: The Steelers are listen, We're in the best division in football.

1024
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: Everybody in this division knows that all of their teams

1025
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: are in their prime and they have to go right now,

1026
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: that's it. Every one of the teams in this division

1027
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: are in their prime. Their rosters are in their prime.

1028
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: They are all in. We have got to track down

1029
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 2: Kansas City and win. Now.

1030
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: Here's what sucks is that the Ravens lost Patrick Queen

1031
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: and Geno Stone, but they both went in the division.

1032
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: That's right, that sucks.

1033
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: Just go set him in the NFC. Crazy Queen's a

1034
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: good player and he's going to be a very good

1035
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: blitzer in that defense.

1036
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: So they don't They're not gonna need much from Russ.

1037
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: The corners are still suspect to me outside of.

1038
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Joey Border junior pressure is going to be

1039
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: just nuts. Yeah, and they get another corner, Well, you

1040
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: have to hope.

1041
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: Is it from a Brown's perspective, and it's it feels

1042
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 3: like it's definitely maybe trending that is that Cam Hayward

1043
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: is getting old finally right.

1044
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was banged up last year. Yeah, all right,

1045
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: lots more to react to around the league. We will

1046
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,799
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1057
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1058
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1060
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00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,879
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1062
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,920
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1063
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,280
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1064
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: All right, All right, well there's that, and then we

1065
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: also have a tackle situation that's been cleared up.

1066
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said, Hakeema dana Ja. Yep, all right, So

1067
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: add him to the tackle mix. Add Shelby Harris back.

1068
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 3: So now you've got Dalvin Mohurst, Shelby Harris, siaki Eka

1069
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: in that room. Hakeema Dona Jay. Again, I said earlier

1070
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: when we were talking about I thought that we would

1071
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: add another tackle, and I still think we could add

1072
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: one in the draft. Now it feels like if we did,

1073
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 3: it would be maybe more of like a project. The

1074
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 3: kid that Dane Bruler loves from Yale might be somebody

1075
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: who would fit in that. Hakeema Danagy. Let's see pulling

1076
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 3: him up. He was a six round pick of the

1077
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: Bengals in twenty twenty. Was just most recently on the

1078
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings. So he started fifteen games for the Bengals,

1079
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: played for the Vikings, four games did not start.

1080
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: So just a.

1081
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: Backup depth tackle. There's really all that is there. I

1082
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: kind of remember him being with the Bengals and not

1083
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: being particularly great.

1084
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember the last name, Yeah being yeah.

1085
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: Uh So there you go. Also in the division, we

1086
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: had right before we had the Patrick Queen signing with

1087
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: the Steelers, So he goes there, come on, Yeah, this

1088
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: division's ridiculous. It's just everybody knows they're in the window. Yeah,

1089
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: they gotta go. Their rosters are in their primes, and

1090
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: they gotta go. All four of the teams just it's

1091
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: just usually two of them are in windows and two

1092
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: of them aren't. It's usually outworks or one is. You

1093
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: rarely have an instance where four teams in one division

1094
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: are all in their window. And that's the instance here

1095
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: in this division at the moment. So it's going to

1096
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: be just a absolute meat grinder. All right, let's whip it.

1097
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 4: All right there. It is, all right, guys, Which nearly

1098
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 4: signed running back is in the best position to succeed?

1099
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: Which one it is the worst? My options for you,

1100
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 4: Barkley to the Eagles, Jacobs to the Packers, Tony Pollard

1101
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 4: to the Titans, Eckler to the Washington whatever they're going

1102
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 4: to be called. DeAndre Swift to the Bears, Zach Moss

1103
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 4: to the Bengals, Joe Mix it reportedly being traded to

1104
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 4: the Texans.

1105
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: And Derrick Henry. Yeah, I really like Swift to the

1106
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: Bears with the rest of their weaponry. And Caleb Williams

1107
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 2: is going to be coming in there. I think he's

1108
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: gonna get me in a pretty good position to succeed there.

1109
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: And I think they could still do some more things.

1110
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: I also like I like the Eckler one in Washington

1111
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: with McLaurin, and they'll draft a quarterback that's not.

1112
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: Bad either, but they got Brian Robinson. Yeah, but he'll

1113
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 3: be the he'll be a change of pay the Bear.

1114
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: Though he's not going to be. It feels to me

1115
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 3: like he just won't be what he was.

1116
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: Like, he'll catch a lot of passes out of the backfield.

1117
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: It just gives them more weapons.

1118
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: I am with you, fully on. I like DeAndre Swift

1119
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: a lot to the Bears. Iither think Saquon is going

1120
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 3: to be dominant with the Eagles. I think Joe Mixon

1121
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: is a great signing, great get for the Texans. And

1122
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: then the one that's not on here that I think

1123
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: is going to be good is is Gus Edwards in

1124
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: La Apparently everybody in the world knew that he was

1125
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: going to Harba like that Harbaugh wanted him, and he's

1126
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 3: going to give him the ball a lot, one Harbor

1127
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 3: to another.

1128
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 4: One Harbaugh to another kind of like so here's my

1129
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 4: question about Saquon Barkley to the Eagles. Okay, I don't

1130
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 4: know how good the Eagles backs were last year. Namely,

1131
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 4: Swift was pretty good. I'm assuming Swift was good good,

1132
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: but was he elite?

1133
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: Was like they didn't give him the ball like it

1134
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: was strange.

1135
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift thousand and fifty yards rushing, five touchdowns, averaged

1136
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: four points six yards of carry, thirty nine catches two

1137
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen yards and another touchdown, so thirteen in

1138
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 3: total yards, six total touchdowns. He was very good. They

1139
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 3: just need you have to remember the touchdown numbers are

1140
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: so down because Hurts steals all the touchdowns.

1141
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was frustrating for fantasy people because he would

1142
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: get him all the way down there and said five

1143
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 2: and then they'd go run, run.

1144
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 4: Run, That's what And I'm not saying I mean running back.

1145
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was very good.

1146
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: I mean Barkley will have the same frustration. Yeah, Like,

1147
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's not a whole lot.

1148
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts had fifteen thrushing touchdowns last year.

1149
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: That's gotta suck. Jalen Hurts, like do the work and

1150
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: then inside the three.

1151
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 3: Daleenhards has thirty eight rushing touchdowns the last three years. Yeah,

1152
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: I'm telling DeAndre got tackled inside the one yard line

1153
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: probably six times. That ended up then being Jalen Hurts touchdowns.

1154
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 4: So is Barkley really in the best position to succeed.

1155
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 3: Yes, he's going to be in an offense that is,

1156
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: he's going to be featured. They wanted him, they gave

1157
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: him big money. I think he's gonna get everything he wants.

1158
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 3: He's on such a better team, better line, better situation

1159
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: all around than he was with the Giants.

1160
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I also did these from the position

1161
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: of how much did I like the signing? Like I

1162
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: love the Swift to Bears signing. I think that's fantastic

1163
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: for Caleb Williams. I'm with you on Saquon, and I

1164
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: think from a Washington perspective, Eckler's going to be a weapon,

1165
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,479
Speaker 2: real weapon, And I think that's how I think that's

1166
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why is that fair that maybe that's why

1167
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: these running backs are getting the money they're getting because

1168
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 2: they're not just being viewed as maybe it's finally worked

1169
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: like the McCaffrey thing, like you're not a running deck,

1170
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: you're a weapon, and these got Most of these guys

1171
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: who got this money, they catch out of the backfield

1172
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: a little bit too and be pretty you know.

1173
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: I think Josh Jacobs is gonna be pretty good with

1174
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: with the packers as well.

1175
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, the weird thing I under the radar yesterday.

1176
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones.

1177
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: Here's the thing that's weird about Josh Jacobs though. So

1178
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 3: I'd take his last three years eight seventy two and

1179
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: nine forty yards of carry, fifty four catches during forty

1180
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: eight yards and no receiving days, never caught a receiving

1181
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: touchdown this career, one hundred and ninety seven passes. Twenty

1182
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: twenty two was his great year, sixteen hundred and fifty

1183
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: three yards, twelve touchdowns, four point nine yards of carry,

1184
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: career high. Last year eight hundred and five yards, six touchdowns,

1185
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: three point five yards per carry, career low. And then

1186
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: he also had thirty seven catches two hund ninety six yards,

1187
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: so career low in terms of yards for scrimmage, career

1188
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: low in total touchdowns, and career low in yards per carry.

1189
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, up next on.

1190
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: The CVD with they had bad quarterback spot though too,

1191
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: Like you were read for sure, really lock in.

1192
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: On you, bigger head scratcher, the Falcons giving Kirk Cousins

1193
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 4: a contract when they weren't willing to give it to

1194
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson last season, or the Panthers trading Brian Burns

1195
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 4: to the Giants for a second and a fifth round

1196
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: pick when they could have had the Rams two first

1197
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: round picks and a second round pick a year ago.

1198
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: So what was great about that is the way the

1199
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: hook on the first part, because initially you just the

1200
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: first part, it was like, no, of course they was

1201
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: perfect money for Falcons. But then the add of they

1202
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: weren't get willing to give it to Lamar last season,

1203
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: because if they had they given it to Lamar last

1204
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: season and Eddie played in that offense with your boy

1205
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: Artie Smith, that would have been a problem for everybody

1206
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: and they would have had quarterbacks situated for a long

1207
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: time going forward with that.

1208
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: So that is Arthur Smith, my guess, didn't think that

1209
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 3: he was for his offense. He wasn't a sea it

1210
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: throw again, That's why he wanted you know, Mariota whatever

1211
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: in case.

1212
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: Just all right, they would have been better off with Lamarre.

1213
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: What this the Panthers have done is malfeasance. It's single

1214
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 3: handedly saved Ryan Pole's job. Yeah, because they gifted him this.

1215
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: This is the net net. This is from Scott Barrett.

1216
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: This is the net net of the Brian Burns, Bryce

1217
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: Young and Christian McCaffrey trades. Yep, have you seen this?

1218
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: I did, I talked about this morning. It's unreal.

1219
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: So they have traded the first overall pick in twenty

1220
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 3: twenty four or quarterback Caleb Williams. However you want to

1221
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: look at that, Christian McCaffrey, DJ Moore twenty twenty three

1222
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: round run pick, top ten, twenty twenty three, round two pick,

1223
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, round one pick, twenty twenty five, round

1224
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 3: one pick in exchange for Bryce Young outside linebacker DJ Johnson,

1225
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: who was Pro Football Focus one hundred and twenty fifth

1226
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: highest graded edge, two fifth round picks and a one

1227
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 3: year rental in essence of Brian Burns.

1228
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 4: Yep, it can't feel good, man. If you're a Panther fan.

1229
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: Well, no, your boy Luke Combs didn't boy him.

1230
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: He went right, Adam comes went Adam.

1231
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's I don't know, I don't It's how

1232
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: to fail running an NFL operation in the course of

1233
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: two years, to give up that, to give up those

1234
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: players and get that give back. It's nuts what they've done.

1235
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 2: And it's also I feel bad for Bryce Young because

1236
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: there's just no chance for success. There none. They're never

1237
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 2: going to be able to build anything around him. I mean,

1238
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: I think you said in that that they the Bears

1239
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: have their number one next year.

1240
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: So they don't. That's them taking into account the number

1241
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: one in twenty four and the number one and twenty

1242
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 3: five that they didn't take for Burns.

1243
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: So, oh, I got you.

1244
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: So it's a little it's a little misleading, but that's

1245
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 3: why he says in exchange for a one year rental

1246
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: of Burns, they gave up a twenty four to one

1247
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 3: and a twenty five one.

1248
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: I got you.

1249
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty crazy.

1250
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: No, I think the I think the Falcons one makes

1251
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: sense in terms when you think about it from Artie

1252
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: Smith what he was trying to do at that time.

1253
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: But I think the Panthers is is just stupefying.

1254
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1255
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1256
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: That the way that they've they've managed assets and the

1257
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: roster position that they're in, it's it's a bad spot.

1258
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 4: More disgruntled fan this morning Panther fan or biking fan

1259
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 4: knowing sam Donold your quarterback and now you're wide receiver

1260
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 4: going to be coming back for that?

1261
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what that was the point where

1262
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: I thought they were they would sign Cousins, and all

1263
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: of us at the combine assumed that they would bring

1264
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: back Cousins because of the Jefferson component to it, Like

1265
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 2: do they pivot.

1266
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: Now now they're keeping Justin Jefferson, But what if he

1267
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: doesn't sign, Oh, franchise tag him.

1268
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he could do the same thing that T

1269
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: Higgins is doing.

1270
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 3: Now what do you make of that?

1271
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: Oh, that's coming up in prediction time.

1272
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 4: Prediction time.

1273
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now the Viking thing is and then the Vikings

1274
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: spent too, like they did. They spent on defensive guys.

1275
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: So they were the biggest winner and biggest loser in

1276
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 4: ESPN's Free agent.

1277
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: Right, it's sty clearly they're I guess they're going to

1278
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: take a quarterback in the draft. So that's that gets

1279
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: I don't know where they pick, but that's like in

1280
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: the debts, the JJ McCarthy, Bonix Michael Pennix spot.

1281
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 4: Currently having his pro day on NFL Network.

1282
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's those type of guys. They're not gonna

1283
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: have any assets to be able to get up to

1284
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: the top. So I don't know, that's weird weird spot.

1285
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 4: Is there a team out there that makes sense for

1286
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 4: Justin Fields to go to.

1287
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: There's only one spot left. It's Denver, and it doesn't

1288
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: make sense to me. Like, I don't think Sean Payton

1289
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: would have an interest in what Justin is.

1290
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: If I'm the Niners, I would want to bring him in.

1291
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: They could have drafted him.

1292
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 3: But now you can get him for nothing.

1293
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. But like Kyle, I mean, he doesn't

1294
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Speaker 2: like those guys.

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01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 3: I mean you need a backup.

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean might cast you what they get. What

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Speaker 2: they got for Mac Jones, like a sixth that's what

1298
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: Mac Jones is worth. That might be all he's worth. Now.

1299
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: Seattle should definitely take a look at on.

1300
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: I think the places that would be best for him,

1301
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: and both of the quarterbacks in these spots have missed

1302
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: games with injury, is Philly in Baltimore that would make

1303
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: the most sense. Those are the type of offenses that

1304
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: he would thrive in and go be the backup in

1305
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: those two places.

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Speaker 3: I'm just glad he didn't go to the Steelers. I would.

1307
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: I would, I'm much more afraid of the Steelers organization

1308
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: with justin fields than I am Thrussell Wilson.

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01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: No doubt, Yeah, no, there's no doubt. I don't where

1310
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: in the minority. I guess. I guess we must be

1311
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: and I don't understand. I mean, we watched him play

1312
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: this year. He's quite dangerous.

1313
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 4: Who is T Higgins suiting up for a week one Cincinnati?

1314
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 4: Whoo hot take?

1315
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 3: They he demanded trade?

1316
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: He did, We've got Jonah Williams demanded a trade and

1317
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: then came back, we've had guys here. They tagged Jonah,

1318
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: Jesse Bates and Tea or not Jonah, but Jesse Bates

1319
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: and T t held out of camp and then eventually played.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm not saying this is what I would

1321
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: do if I were them, I would probably try to

1322
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: flip him so that Stefan Diggs deal is the one

1323
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: that they're talking about down there. I don't think they're

1324
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Speaker 2: gonna get a mid first round pick for T. Higgins,

1325
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: but I think you could be second round, top of

1326
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: the second round pick for T. Higgins from another team.

1327
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, the other team gets a number

1328
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: one receiver. You're picking near the top ten picks of

1329
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: the second round and then you replenish that. But my

1330
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: hunch is that they're gonna They think that they can

1331
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: win the super Bowl, and with T Higgins they think

1332
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: they can, and without him, they're not sure they get

1333
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: somebody that good. So I think they're gonna go all

1334
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: in and they're losing boyd. Yes, yeah, So it's a

1335
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: big rebuild down there. Here's the thing with sense, but

1336
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: they don't have any My hunch is that they they

1337
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: He just plays out the tag that he sits out

1338
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: mini camps, sits out training camp, and then plays so

1339
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: field he'll ask Burrow to clean it up.

1340
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: Field's record improved every year. His completion percentage improved every

1341
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 3: Year's touchdown interception ratio improved every Year's passing yards improved

1342
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 3: every year. His interception percentage improved every year. His success

1343
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 3: percentage improved every year. His quarterback rating improved every year.

1344
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: Is QBR improved every year? Like he got better every

1345
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: single year? And he was we know he's a darn

1346
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: good runner.

1347
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't get it.

1348
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 4: No, I don't know.

1349
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: There's something. There must be something.

1350
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 4: Be alright real quick because we're up against the break

1351
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley is still unsigned. Who will sign Calvin Ridley?

1352
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, that's a good question. I try who really?

1353
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: Who could? Who could really? I mean Jacksonville I feel

1354
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 3: like certainly could still use him. I wouldn't surprise me

1355
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: to see him back in Jacksonville. What about Kansas City.

1356
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: That's the first team I thought of its Kansas City.

1357
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: Give him a real, a real option there, real.

1358
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: Prove it, come here, light it up. Then we'll see

1359
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: even get you paid.

1360
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 4: All right, that's the CBD whip gentlemen.

1361
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is Chicago.

1362
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a lot of money.

1363
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: They do. Washington's had a lot of money. Yeah, all right,

1364
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: we'll reset everything the Browns have done and may continue

1365
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: to do going forward. Ben Albright going to join us

1366
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,800
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1373
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: So we had a very busy weekend, had a very

1374
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: busy day yesterday when it came to the Cleveland Browns.

1375
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: And we've had a couple of more minor signings today

1376
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: in terms of offensive tackle, uh and some other things

1377
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Speaker 2: that we've seen. Where what what are next on your checklist?

1378
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: We went through the roster earlier in the show, and

1379
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: we encourage you to get that wherever you get your podcasts,

1380
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: we'll have all the details on that if you missed

1381
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: any of that. But in terms of the full roster breakdown,

1382
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: so they got to get into the tackle, they did it,

1383
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 2: and we mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guard, offensive tackle defense, that check check chick check

1385
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 3: all while we've been here. I think probably another linebacker. Yeah,

1386
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 3: And then they're very good at drafting corner, so why

1387
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 3: you'd really necessarily pay for one, But if you got

1388
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: a corner that you liked at a good price, then

1389
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 3: that would that would seem to make a lot of

1390
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: sense to me. So yeah, I think that's pretty that's

1391
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 3: really all there is left to do, and then you're

1392
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: gonna go in there and draft tight end. Tight End

1393
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: was another position I could see. My guess is though

1394
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: that could be a draft pick as well. Wait, how

1395
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 3: about Mac Williams three years thirteen MIL with the Arizona Cardinals.

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: Mac Williams, Mac Wilson, Oh, Wilson, Wilson Wilson. So yeah,

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01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 2: did Didion replace Mac?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It seems that way like we had.

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01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: Them both here. Elliott was a part of those drafts

1401
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: that drafted. They were in the same draft, both of

1402
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: those guys. Yeah. So yeah, I'm miss I'm mission TakaTak.

1403
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: He was great, great and they walked.

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah he was.

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01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: But this this is part of this business at the moment.

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01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: All right, time for your griff Staut of the day.

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 3: It's all Grif today, back to the day, back to

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01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 3: the day. Where's the back of the day factor the

1409
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 3: day fact of the day. It's the Griff fact of

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 3: the day.

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01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: Hello boys, Oh griv let's go get them on.

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01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: Griff can here one one se sir?

1413
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1414
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: By the way, somebody challenged somebody challenged us to a

1415
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: bowling match and they put up their scores. I couldn't

1416
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 2: even understand it. I didn't realize there were handicaps and bowling.

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01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: I didn't understand any of it. As long as we like,

1418
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 2: they challenge us to a bowl.

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: It felt like they had like four good bolt rollers

1421
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: and I think we might only have one. So I

1422
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: don't know it's gonna.

1423
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 3: End well for you give me your best and we'll

1424
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: give you our best.

1425
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 2: Your best, your best man versus. But like it, like

1426
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: that movie Troy that Brad Pitt was in when they

1427
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 2: ended that first fight with you my best man versus

1428
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: will do it the old way.

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01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, my best man, your best. That's our best.

1430
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: That's our right now, that's our Achilles right there. All right,

1431
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: go ahead, Griff.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So, if you boys didn't know, I'm a bit

1433
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 7: of a history buff. My dad was actually a high

1434
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 7: school history teacher, a pretty interesting, say the least history

1435
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 7: teacher that taught me this about seven or eight years

1436
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 7: ago that I've been waiting to tell you guys. All right, So,

1437
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 7: have you guys ever heard of a gentleman by the

1438
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 7: name of Charles Joggins?

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01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,520
Speaker 2: No, not no, soar.

1440
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 3: Because I'm reading the fact.

1441
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: But before that, no, no, you got no place.

1442
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 7: So he perhaps has one of the most remarkable and

1443
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 7: maybe most fictitious surviv survival stories. So he was actually

1444
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 7: the chief baker on the SMS Titanic, and so whenever

1445
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 7: the ship hit the side of the iceberg, he was

1446
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 7: helping load the women and children onto those life rafts.

1447
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 7: And because they had a very short or excuse me,

1448
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 7: because they had not enough life rafts for everyone. Yeah,

1449
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 7: and because he was a male and also worked on

1450
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 7: the Titanic, he knew he'd probably be one of the

1451
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 7: last people off of the Titanic. Because of that, he

1452
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,560
Speaker 7: decided to go down into his cabin get himself a

1453
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 7: drink or two. Some must say, into oblivion yep, and

1454
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 7: some sub base, some I say, and he was one

1455
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 7: of the last people to be fully submerged into the

1456
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 7: freezing cold temperatures he's He claims that he wasn't in

1457
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 7: the water for two to four hours, treading water, and

1458
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 7: during this well oblivion he remained calm and later explained

1459
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 7: that there was no great shock or anything to him.

1460
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 7: And then he later he later proceeded to stay stay

1461
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 7: aflot for this remarkable amount of time and was finally

1462
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 7: able to spot an overturned lifeboat and made his way

1463
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 7: to land. And so, whether or not the alcohol actually

1464
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 7: helped him, he managed to survive with no injuries other

1465
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 7: than some swollen feet and he managed to go back

1466
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 7: to work in a matter of days.

1467
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: Sounds like you drink a little night, it's going to

1468
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: help you survive the cold temperatures.

1469
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 4: Kids.

1470
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,440
Speaker 3: Where's he going back to work the Titanics.

1471
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 2: Well, he's baking on the next ship, right, you got

1472
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 2: to be banking on the next ship.

1473
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: That it'd be hard to decide I'd like to get

1474
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 3: back on a boat.

1475
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 2: Well I couldn't.

1476
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 7: I couldn't necessarily find where he went back to work at.

1477
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 7: But I know he decided to go to New Jersey

1478
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 7: and that's where he lived the rest of his life.

1479
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: That's incredible. And the claim is that the booze helped

1480
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 2: same brother, I feel you good job at you on

1481
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: the griff. Fact of the day.

1482
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 3: I have a just a quick aside fact of the

1483
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 3: day that this is more like a public service sounds.

1484
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 3: I read an article that disturbed me deeply, and so

1485
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 3: I want to share.

1486
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: Are you becoming pedro? Unbeknownst to me?

1487
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,839
Speaker 3: No? Okay, Now, this was a story about a lady

1488
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 3: who very prominent woman was had a huge ranch out

1489
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 3: in Texas and was driving to go a four minute

1490
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 3: drive to go home. Thought she put her car and

1491
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: drive but actually put it in reverse, so when she accelerated,

1492
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 3: she went backwards into a pond. Yeah, she called her

1493
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 3: friend said I'm in this pond. Helped me out. Yeah,

1494
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 3: she's no longer with us because the way that the

1495
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 3: cars are built now, it's you could not possibly kick

1496
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: the windows out while they're underwater.

1497
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: So my public service pressure was there's too much pressure.

1498
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: You can't open the door and you can't kick them

1499
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 2: out because it's the way they're built.

1500
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 3: So if anybody who's listening, all right, if you ever

1501
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 3: find yourself in a car going into water, they said,

1502
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: there was like I read this whole thing about where

1503
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: I got like, like all you have to think about

1504
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 3: doing is getting your window down. So like as soon

1505
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 3: as you go over and you're like, oh my god,

1506
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 3: I'm going in water, roll your windows down because you'll

1507
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 3: be able to get out of your seat belt. You'll

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Speaker 3: build it. Then do that next, but then you can

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Speaker 3: swim out.

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Speaker 2: Bright joining us. Hey, buddy, I'm trying to think. I

1544
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 2: feel like Zee and I talked to you about Jerry

1545
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: Judy to the Browns. Was it last year?

1546
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 3: Last year? There were talks.

1547
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: There were talks. So this has been something that Andrew

1548
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: Berry has circled for a long time and it finally

1549
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: gets consummated over the weekend.

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 5: It did. Yeah, it's just what we've been talking about

1551
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 5: for a while. And and of course Cleveland was involved

1552
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 5: that the trade deadline last year didn't get it done,

1553
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 5: and there were several teams that were trying to get

1554
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 5: it done. Ultimately they spent less than what they offered

1555
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 5: at that point in time. So it ends up working out,

1556
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 5: I guess for the Browns fans in terms of shilling

1557
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 5: out less compensation. Now you get it all a very

1558
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 5: very talented athlete who has yet to put it all

1559
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 5: together as a wide receiver and hopefully a change of

1560
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 5: scenery will do that for him.

1561
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 3: Why was the price as seemingly low as it was.

1562
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 5: Well, from what I understand, offer at it, but Jerry

1563
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 5: Judy dropped it. No, I'm kidding's too easy. It's one

1564
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 5: of those It's one of those things where I just

1565
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 5: think that there's just not the production to get more.

1566
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, at this point in time, they

1567
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 5: knew the Broncos had to move. You're on a fifty

1568
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 5: year option. It does the Bronxos a favor in terms

1569
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 5: of cap you know cap anyway, they needed to get

1570
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 5: that cap off the books at the time in order

1571
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 5: to be compliant. So yeah, you know, I think in

1572
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 5: the end, I think it's just a situation that worked out.

1573
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 5: I don't think it was you know, hey we're having

1574
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 5: a fire sale. It's just like, hey, here's an offer.

1575
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 5: This gets him a new place, it gets us the

1576
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 5: twelve MAILLI and cap space. It's it's just a win

1577
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 5: for everybody.

1578
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 3: And almost the waiting the half year for the Browns

1579
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 3: kind of shifted who had the leverage in the trade,

1580
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 3: because Lacos more needed the twelve million than they needed.

1581
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy given that they don't even have a quarterback

1582
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 3: right now.

1583
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: No, And and speaking speaking of Jerry Judy, can you

1584
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: give us the highlights in the in the low lights

1585
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 2: if you will, of his time in Denver.

1586
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 5: Well, the highlights, I mean the day he was drafted, certainly,

1587
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 5: you know, they really out there getting an injection of juice.

1588
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 5: It's fun. I'll say this, and I'm being sarcastic. Jerry's

1589
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 5: a great person to watch him practice too. You'll love

1590
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 5: watching him practice because he's gonna break ankles. The way

1591
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 5: he stops on a dime, that he drops his hits

1592
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 5: and gears down like it gets him the title of

1593
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 5: good route runner. But really he's just a sharp cut

1594
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 5: guy and a great athlete who can gear down and

1595
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 5: gear up real quick. And that's that's big. He's did

1596
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 5: his best playing out of a slot. And you'll want

1597
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 5: to get him the ball early because if you don't,

1598
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 5: he tends to kind of out and check out a

1599
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 5: little bit. But if you get to the ball early

1600
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 5: and you can keep him dialed in during games, I mean,

1601
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 5: he can be productive. He's had some monster games before

1602
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 5: so and he's you know, I'll say this, corners he's

1603
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 5: played against always list him as the hardest guy to cover,

1604
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 5: So you know, there's certainly that aspect of in terms

1605
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 5: of low lights. I mean, you know there was some

1606
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 5: just agree just drops wide open touchdown, didn't drag the foot,

1607
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 5: drop the ball plays where you know he should have

1608
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 5: been dialed in and didn't know what he was doing.

1609
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 5: At one point, Pat Shermer, when he was here, had

1610
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 5: relegated him to being the fake handoff guy on the

1611
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 5: jet sweep and that's just all he did. He had

1612
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 5: an off field incident which was largely overblown for people

1613
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 5: googling and saying that he's a bad guy. He's not

1614
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 5: a bad guy. The domestic violence thing, he hid the phone.

1615
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 5: He hid the girl's phone in his car, and that's

1616
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 5: classified his domestic violence in Colorado. There was no physical altercation.

1617
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 5: So anybody telling you that that is wrong. He's a

1618
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 5: good guy. He's a good athlete. He just needs, like

1619
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 5: I said, just needs a fresh start and you know,

1620
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 5: to get his legs back under him as a wide receiver,

1621
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 5: a football player more than just a great athlete.

1622
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing that we and I'm sure you probably

1623
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: know this as well, but just in the reading, it

1624
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 2: feels like he idolized a Marii Cooper and just listening

1625
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 2: to some of the things you're saying about to be

1626
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 2: in the same room with the Mariy Cooper went Tobama

1627
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 2: in part because Coop was there, that that mentorship is

1628
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: probably something they're banking on, and that that changes the scenery.

1629
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: It feels like this might kind of be the and

1630
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 2: we're optimistic obviously maybe that's the perfect change of scenery

1631
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: for Jerry Judy.

1632
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think it's ideal. I mean, if there

1633
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 5: was anywhere to place him, I think it's ideal with

1634
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 5: somebody who has familiarity with he doesn't have kind of

1635
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 5: that idolization, being somebody you can look up to that

1636
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 5: you can emulate, and it has the right things to emulate,

1637
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 5: you know, like who does. So, you know, I do

1638
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 5: believe that if there was a perfect landing spot, that

1639
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 5: Cleveland is probably it.

1640
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we certainly hope that that would be It would

1641
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 3: be great. And with a fifth and a sixth, you know,

1642
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: it's a fairly low risk proposition bringing in Jerry Judy

1643
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 3: here to the Cleveland Browns. Can we talk for a second, though,

1644
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 3: just about Denver and what's going on with this Broncos team.

1645
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 3: Obviously Russell Wilson gets cut. They'll have the two biggest

1646
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 3: dead money hits you know, ever one of them and

1647
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: for one year, but the largest number over two years.

1648
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: They clearly just wanted to get rid of them. They

1649
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 3: don't have a quarterback. Feels like the quarterback carousel is

1650
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 3: kind of spun. You know, what do you think the

1651
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 3: Broncos plan is at this time?

1652
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 5: Well, I mean they had a plan. I think it

1653
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 5: just didn't work. Quarterbacks chose other places, you know. They

1654
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 5: were kind of eyeball on the Kirk Cousins thing, even

1655
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 5: though they really didn't have the cap space. They were

1656
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,480
Speaker 5: ryeball in San Darnold, Jacoby Brissett. Those guys chose other places,

1657
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 5: you know. I it's just one of those situations where,

1658
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 5: you know, I the reputation is Sean Payton, the actuality

1659
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 5: of Sean Payton may not match up. You know, Sean

1660
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 5: Payton's ego caused him to move on from RUSS because

1661
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 5: he wanted somebody who would do what he wanted to

1662
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 5: do rather than somebody who was, you know, doing well

1663
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 5: outside of structure.

1664
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

1665
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 5: And now you've got a giant cap hit, no quarterback

1666
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 5: and not really any prospects. You can't you can't really

1667
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 5: trade up. You don't have much draft capital, you can't

1668
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 5: trade up into the top five, you don't have enough

1669
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 5: cap space, and all those quarterbacks are gone, So what

1670
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 5: are you going to do? I think if if you're

1671
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 5: the Broncos at this point, you're either looking at a

1672
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 5: stop gap better and like Jimmy Garoppolo ryot Tannehill paired

1673
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 5: with a you know, a rookie that's available around twelve

1674
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 5: or later, like a bow Nix. You know, maybe maybe

1675
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 5: you make a trade for a Sam Howell or Zach Wilson,

1676
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 5: although you know that might just my stomach just reviled

1677
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 5: at the thought. So, you know, it's it's one of

1678
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 5: those situations where Sean Payton's bold move to try to

1679
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 5: import the twenty twenty Saints that didn't win anything to

1680
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 5: the Denver Broncos is suddenly blowing up in his face.

1681
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that one name you didn't mention. There is

1682
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: a guy who actually he's been very productive and gotten

1683
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: better with each cheese and is justin fields. But he's

1684
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: kind of the only guy left out there. But it

1685
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like that's a philosophical fit. At all based

1686
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 2: on the things that you just described that Peyton and

1687
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: the Broncos are looking for.

1688
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sean Payton's looking for somebody to play in structure

1689
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 5: and do what to execute what it is that he calls.

1690
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 5: And I don't know, you know, the Broncos just moved on.

1691
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 5: Took eighty million dollars capit to move off from a

1692
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 5: Hall of fame improviser. I don't know why they would

1693
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 5: go after a hall of middling improviser in fields.

1694
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 3: It's wild. Are you shocked that he's nowhere?

1695
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 5: No, at all. I mean the market for him is

1696
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 5: not very I mean, justice is nothing very good as

1697
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 5: a pro. I mean, you know, with all due respect,

1698
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 5: I'm sure he's a great guy, but you know he's

1699
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 5: a bottom five, bottom seven starter in just about every category.

1700
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,560
Speaker 5: He runs the ball really well, but you know, it

1701
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 5: takes a long time to throw the football and you know,

1702
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 5: process the field, and he's got better every year, but

1703
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 5: the reality is just a bottom seven starter. And you know,

1704
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 5: his offensive coordinator for the last two years so thought

1705
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 5: so little of him. He's like, let's go out and

1706
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 5: pay over pay Gardner Minshew to be my quarterback. So

1707
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 5: that speaks volumes to me.

1708
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true with the Minshew signing with the Raiders.

1709
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: Yet it's wild like sometimes you just the reality that

1710
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: we think it is versus the reality of the league are

1711
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 2: very very different. In the market is speaking. What is

1712
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: the one thing of because obviously now we have Russell

1713
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: Russe Wilson in the division here with with Pittsburgh, how

1714
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: do you think that fit will go and what do

1715
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: you think of the move for him to go there?

1716
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, kind of.

1717
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: We lose ben.

1718
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 5: You guys cut out there. I didn't hear you.

1719
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 4: Now we got you back.

1720
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: I was just ad you. Yeah, you were around Russell

1721
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 2: Wilson for two years. What do you think about the

1722
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 2: fit in Pittsburgh and what type of impact do you

1723
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 2: think he will have on that operation.

1724
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 5: I think it's a good fit with Arthur Smith. I

1725
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 5: know people are talking about Smith's offense being over the

1726
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 5: middle of the field, but that hasn't always been the

1727
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 5: case when when Smith was the OC and the Titans,

1728
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 5: Tanny Hill and them, they they'd like to hit the

1729
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 5: you know, the crossing routes, the deep crossers on off

1730
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 5: play action and the you know, the deep overt So

1731
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think that that's necessarily a thing.

1732
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 5: I Russ was always going to copair with Arthur Smith

1733
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 5: once he got benched. To me, whether it was Atlanta,

1734
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 5: whether it was Pittsburgh, that was it was kind of

1735
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 5: a foregone thing. So I like to fit. It'll just

1736
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 5: be interesting to see how he does in that locker

1737
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 5: room with those players, because you know, Russ is a

1738
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 5: different dude like personally, you know, and so I you

1739
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 5: know George Pickens and and John you know, those outspoken receivers.

1740
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 5: That that's one thing that kind of has my eyebrow raised,

1741
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 5: is when something goes wrong and Russ is doing his

1742
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 5: I'm always positive, almost toxic positivity thing. Uh, how those

1743
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 5: guys will react to that.

1744
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 3: From the outside at times it appears that he can

1745
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 3: be strange, I think is a fair way to ward

1746
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 3: it is that what you're alluding to, just kind of

1747
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 3: his uniqueness and how that will play in a in

1748
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: a locker room that has a pretty well is established

1749
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 3: and at times volatile under Mike Tomlin, but established culture.

1750
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's I mean, I think we're all

1751
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 5: just dancing around and Russ is a dork. You know,

1752
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 5: let's just be honest. Here. Russ is kind of a

1753
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 5: dork and the things that he says are kind of dorky,

1754
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 5: and you know, when you're in the heat of battle,

1755
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 5: sometimes that does not resonate. You know, it takes it

1756
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 5: takes the right group of people to kind of let

1757
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 5: that resonate. You know, they were in Detroit and he's

1758
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 5: on the sideline clapping positive, Hey, we gotta we gotta believe,

1759
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 5: we gotta believe, and people are looking at him like, dude,

1760
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 5: it's eight minutes left, the we're down twenty one. We're

1761
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 5: not gonna believe, We're not gonna win, Like, this isn't

1762
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 5: gonna happen. How about some fire And you know he

1763
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 5: just doesn't have that enemy. He's that, you know, he's

1764
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 5: that always positive, you gotta believe, you know, cliche guy.

1765
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: Well, and it works when you're great, and there was

1766
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 2: times in Seattle he was so you can.

1767
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 3: Do that still ruffle though the lead boom it did.

1768
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 2: But but when you're great, you can deal with it,

1769
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: you can compartmentalize it, yes, but when you're average not

1770
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 2: And that's that seems to be the case.

1771
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1772
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 5: I think the other thing is Russ had built some

1773
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 5: cachet up in Seattle. You know, they won the Super Bowl.

1774
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 5: They they were constantly successful, and so he built cache

1775
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 5: at up over the years to be able to do that.

1776
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 5: He did have that Denver, I mean they were bad

1777
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 5: under Hacket and then then middling under Payton, So you know,

1778
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 5: they just didn't have that. It didn't resonate.

1779
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 3: Taking a step back looking at the league in general,

1780
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 3: what stood out to you this free agency period? Who

1781
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 3: have you What have you liked? What moves? What have

1782
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 3: you liked?

1783
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 5: Well, I mean a lot of people were surprised by

1784
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 5: the running back thing. I haven't really been. I mean

1785
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 5: the Josh Jacobs won surprised me. But the market itself

1786
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 5: being strong when you look at this draft class not surprising.

1787
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 5: And then conversely the other way with receivers. You know,

1788
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 5: you guys went out and got Judy for you know,

1789
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 5: on the Chief, a fifth and a six, right, There

1790
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 5: really hasn't been much movement on the receiver market in

1791
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 5: terms of contracts. And what that's telling you is this

1792
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 5: is a very loaded draft class that the teams are

1793
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 5: just not willing to spend on. So if you willed to,

1794
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 5: if you can get a receiver for very low draft

1795
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 5: capital or not spending on a contract, then you're you're

1796
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 5: doing pretty well.

1797
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 3: Speaking of receivers, two of probably the more prominent names

1798
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 3: that are still out there, T Higgins's requested a trade,

1799
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley still available. What have you heard if anything

1800
01:24:59,520 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 3: about those?

1801
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 5: I know Higgins look at our trade, but that I

1802
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 5: haven't heard much on what I can tell you with

1803
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley's. I know Jacksonville is like even trying to

1804
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 5: bring him back. New England I know is at the

1805
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 5: table for Calvin Ridley. I know they've got a substantive

1806
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 5: offer in front of them, and there's consider some of

1807
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 5: the teams out there that are certainly in the mix.

1808
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 5: But I think those are the two most prominent right

1809
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 5: now unless somebody steps up a little higher. So I

1810
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 5: think he goes to New England, but we'll see how

1811
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 5: it works out.

1812
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 2: Always good talking to you, buddy, Thanks for your perspective

1813
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 2: and time.

1814
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 5: Absolutely take care, guys.

1815
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,120
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Speaker 2: Twisted Cleveland. So we're just wrong on Fields. I guess

1820
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: that's just what we have to say. We're just wrong.

1821
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's we have to just be wrong.

1822
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: I just I hate when we're wrong.

1823
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 3: Well, that has to happen every now and then, doesn't.

1824
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 2: Have an often. No, I mean, you're welcome on the

1825
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 2: picks through all these years, my god. But if we're

1826
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: just feels like, yeah, I.

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01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 3: Don't know, he's bottom seven. No way, No, I don't

1828
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 3: think that.

1829
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that.

1830
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 3: He must okay to be fair you and I at

1831
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 3: least I don't obviously because of what I'm doing on

1832
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 3: mostly I'm not sitting down and watching a lot of

1833
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 3: Bears games, watch it a ton of Bears tape. I

1834
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 3: did watch some prior to the game that we played him.

1835
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 3: I will say, like I went, I came away in

1836
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 3: my preparations for the Steelers when they had played Green

1837
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 3: Bayley for it came away way more impressive Jordan Love

1838
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 3: than maybe I am with Justin Fields, just as a

1839
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 3: thrower of the football and that yeah, as the season

1840
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,560
Speaker 3: went on, board itself out. But he's an incredible athlete.

1841
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 3: He clearly must miss so many layups that it drives

1842
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 3: coaches wild. That's the only reason that number one, the

1843
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 3: guy who coached him, wouldn't be like, let's just yeah,

1844
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 3: we can play with this guy in Vegas. He's like,

1845
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 3: we'd rather have Gardner Minshew. That's pretty damning, and Albright

1846
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 3: was right to point that out.

1847
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: I didn't connect the dots on that. I'd forgotten that

1848
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 2: guy was hired.

1849
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just that's what it's got to be. He's

1850
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 3: got to be. He's gotta be in co which his

1851
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 3: mind's a coach killer because he doesn't execute what he

1852
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 3: should be able to execute effortlessly, and then he does

1853
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 3: make spectacular place to go back, you remember the game

1854
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 3: against Washington, which was an up national TV game, and

1855
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 3: he's just dropping dimes all over the place to DJ Moore, right,

1856
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:14,839
Speaker 3: and you know what he can do with his legs.

1857
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: So it's the first. It's it. It's the first. It's

1858
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: you miss so many layups that the good that you do,

1859
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: even if it's extraordinary, does not outweigh how many things

1860
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: you're missing that are easy.

1861
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 3: I think that knowing coaches like I do, the amount

1862
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 3: of time they put into it to give you the

1863
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 3: best chance to succeed, I think it would be very

1864
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: hard for coaches who scheme something up. It's the right thing,

1865
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 3: it's schemed up, it's there exactly as you talked about it,

1866
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 3: and then you just don't see it or execute it,

1867
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 3: and that probably drives them mad.

1868
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, if, if, if, my advice to him

1869
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 2: would be to would be Philly or Baltimore and and

1870
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: get in one of those situations. Philly, Philly, that's fine,

1871
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: Get to Philly and resuscitate that thing a little bit

1872
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe figure out a little bit how to

1873
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: do it.

1874
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 3: It helped him in shoot right Minshe went from there

1875
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 3: to Indy with his coach who had left, and then

1876
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 3: now goes to Vegas and he's getting an opportunity to start.

1877
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 3: I mean it. I think you're right. I think I

1878
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 3: don't think they can keep They're not just gonna keep him.

1879
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 2: There's no way. He's way too popular in the locker room.

1880
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 2: He's way too popular with the fan base there. He

1881
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 2: would not be someone who's gonna help Caleb Williams.

1882
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 3: No.

1883
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: So, no, they're gonna get rid of him. It'll be

1884
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: a sixth round pick, is what it'll be. There's nobody,

1885
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 2: there's no leverage they're.

1886
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 3: Gonna be like a conditional Day three that has the

1887
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 3: chance to be better if he happens to play and

1888
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 3: play well, yeah, but he's going to be a backup somewhere.

1889
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 3: It's not going to be discibing. I'll be honest. If

1890
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 3: that's all it takes. I wouldn't minded him coming here.

1891
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, no, for sure, wild Yeah, So much

1892
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Speaker 2: So we're we've had a lot of business here, a

1897
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 2: lot of business. There will be some official stuff tomorrow.

1898
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean you think about from just from our standpoint

1899
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:32,839
Speaker 3: right trade for Judy. So that's a new resigned, Zadarius resign,

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01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 3: Mohurst resign, Michael Dunn, bring in Naim Hines, Jordan Hicks,

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01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 3: Hachema Dentergy. So seven right, am I missing anybody? I

1902
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 3: don't think.

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01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 2: So you say Shelby, Well.

1904
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 3: That's a retention, and Shelby's a retention. Another retention. So

1905
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 3: we've retained for added for so, yeah, we made eight

1906
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 3: moves here.

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Speaker 2: It's been busy. Yeah, very very busy. Been busy around

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Speaker 2: the league. Going to continue as well. The next level

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