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It's tough to 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.080 watch him think that a three to nine team is 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.040 one of the better teams in college football. However, I 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.799 do think people are like, but you gotta admit the 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.920 boys not crazy for saying that the greatest three win 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:04.679 team of all time. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.480 The date is out there, the stats are out there. 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.799 This is the single handedly greatest three win football team 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.080 you guys will ever witness, and unfortunately they won't be 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:13.680 talked about. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.040 But I do think we have put a. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.840 Flag in the ground and from here on out this 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.960 year will be known as the greatest three win team 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.760 of all time courtesy of Bust with the Boys, because 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.360 all of the shouting and everything was right here, you 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.600 know what I mean. No matter how Nebraska does for 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:31.880 the entirety of our lifetimes, people will think back and 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.000 be like, remember when Kamp was like, was right about 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.160 the three win football team. Tough to watch them think 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.000 that three win full team was a good football team. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:43.720 But the man wasn't crazy. Well I don't even know 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:45.160 what I was saying. I wanted to get that off 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.760 my chest. But knowing that Nebraska is out of it, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:54.040 it is a we're still at war. It just moves 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.520 from Nebraska to now we're in the Big Ten. It 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.800 is war between the Big Ten and the SEC, just 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.680 like it is every year. They think we're inferior. We 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.000 think they're inferior. If we got a lot of laughing 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.880 going on back here and Jack Jackie boy, I'm gonna 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.920 sell you right now, Tennessee might take a few strays 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.480 in this conversation that we have nothing. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.320 Hey, hang on, I haven't said nothing yet. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.800 Yeah, get pressed over Twitter mentions because I think this 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.159 is coming from Twitter right because I saw some Tennessee 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:20.560 fans today Where it's coming. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.839 It's coming from my workout this morning. I'll say I 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.880 was working on a boost. Coop was getting me riled up. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.640 My trainer, Coop and my boy Spencer Puolly who played 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:33.360 at Vanderbilt, a very slowly respected football program. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.440 Those dudes are firing me up. And I'll tell you why. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:37.480 I'm gonna get to it in a minute. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:38.560 I just want to get out in front of that 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.119 because I do have love for Tennessee Valls fans out there. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.800 But what I was saying about it being war with 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.599 the Big ten our team. If you're a part of 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.400 any Big ten football team, any Big ten city that 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.800 you live in, any team that you shout on the 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.840 mountaintops for your team in the Big Ten, whether you're 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.440 a Wisconsin fan, Iowa fan, we put a our swords 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.279 down now because we all need to be rooting for 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.679 each other in boldseason and this BCS title game because 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.320 we got the boys in Michigan, the Boys in Blue, 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.200 they're in the tournament. We need them to win. If 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.440 you're a Nebraska fan thinking I'm crazy, we need Michigan 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.440 to be the national champions because we only lost those 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.719 motherfuckers by three and we need that. We need that 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.920 to help our cause to continue to be the greatest 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:27.800 three win team of all time. But my problem, and 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.800 you guys saw me tweet it right when I woke up, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.520 right when I woke up, and I looked at Twitter, 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.880 and I'm gonna be honest, I'm truly I was baffled 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.240 when I saw Alabama jumped Michigan in the rankings to 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.839 become the number one team in the College Ball Playoff. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.000 Do you guys think I'm crazy for like being baffled? 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.160 Like? Is that? Is that not surprising that the Alabama's 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:46.840 right number one? 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.240 Here, here goes, here goes get Garrett By the way, guys, 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:52.280 he said he's a Bama. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:53.920 Fan, so it could get it could get physical. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.919 To be honest, do I didn't even need to speak 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.159 then if it if it's gonna get no, no, I 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:00.520 want to hear. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:01.520 I want to hear what you think. 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.360 Yeah, man, what did Jelly say? I got lightning in 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:10.240 these things? You don't want to find out. I don't 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.320 think it's like crazy. I mean, we did beat the 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.720 number one team in the country who was supposed to 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:17.600 dog walk us, and. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.480 That shit didn't happen. Both fair points. That's all I 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:23.040 gotta say. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.239 Okay, I can respect that. There's there's there's there's people 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:30.000 out there, you guys from this morning that are like, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.880 it's a no brainer because they beat the number one 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:37.640 team in the country. Now you can argue Georgia was 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.000 averaging giving up seven points a game, right, But I 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.200 think what was eye opening about this whole situation is 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.479 the SEC East is just a fraudulent ass division. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:49.400 You're playing. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.680 Well, bring up the SEC East real quick, because I 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.600 know number one. I know Missoo's in there. Uh, Vanderbilts 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.839 in there? You know, beloved, I listen, Tennessee fan Tennessee, 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.480 fan Tennessee fan Tennessee is in there? 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:04.120 Who else is in there? Who else is in there? Florida, Florida? Okay, 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.240 Mullin fired Florida was fraud from the get go. Tucky 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.520 mis Zuri cal That's right. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:16.480 Georgia's best win after that blowout loss is now Kentucky, 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.600 a nine and three Kentucky team. You can argue, yes, 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.400 it's it's a decent football team, but the way Alabama 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.320 just mopped them just shows you, like, Okay, Georgia was 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.120 playing all these frauds all year long. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.600 That's why they're holding these teams to seven points. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:38.560 I've got ties on both sides. So the reason I 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.880 I just don't understand what the sec sas to do 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:41.440 with all this stuff. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.440 Are you just talking about Georgia just yeah, number one 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:45.400 little team? 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.520 Well yeah, obviously all the people who on Twitter that 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.120 we're talking like, it's just nonsense that I was thinking 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.200 that Michigan should be number one. Michigan was number two. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.000 It just got done waxing Ohio State. One of the 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:58.920 best officers in the country. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.680 Hang on, you talk talk right, one. 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.360 Of the best offenses in the country, and then they 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.040 take care of business against Iowa in the Big Ten Championship. 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.520 Does Iowa should have Iowa even been in the Big 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.120 Ten Championship? That is arguable They're not that tough of 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.120 a football team. They're not that good. They don't play 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.800 Oha State, they don't play these teams on the other side, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.040 like Michigan, Oha State, all these teams they play them 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:21.560 like once. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:22.160 Every four years. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.320 That is arguable, But you're gonna keep the integrity of 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:30.120 these rankings, right. If Alabama does what they do against Georgia, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.520 which they whooped their ass, they did what they needed 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.520 to do, they only go to one. If the number 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.559 two team, who just got done waxing Ohase State, if 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.840 they don't beat Iowa like they should have beat Iowa 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.480 like they did beat Iowa, then they do go up 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.400 to number one. But what do you want Michigan to do? 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.680 They just won forty something to three. They should be 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.760 the number one football team in America. And then you 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.480 you throw Georgia back to four, you have the same 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.240 games I'm arguing. I'm arguing fairy tales out there. At 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:56.840 the end of the day, the best team's gonna come out. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:58.720 Yeah so, but I mean you could also go back 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.760 a couple of weeks and that just comes down to ranking, like, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.800 should have Georgia been number one this whole time? 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.959 Right? And if you're gonna put Bama number one. Why 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.880 don't you want Georgia average and put them at number two? 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.200 Go ahead and put Bama number two if they're gonna 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.240 ultimately be your number one, because it's. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.800 Just it's just that SEC bias. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.120 And then you know they're not gonna put Georgia and 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.559 Alabama in the semi again, right right? 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.920 I agree, it does also get but you can easily 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:28.240 go Michigan one, Georgia four, and then Bama and lic 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.240 But yeah, but it's just that s it's that bullshit 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.319 SEC bias and it shat my ass. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:34.520 Bro. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.680 That loss for Michigan is the only I mean, obviously, 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.040 if they took care of them, then they be number 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:41.160 one right now for sure. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.839 But while are we comparing losses, that's what I'm saying. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.280 Obama lost to an eight and four Texas A and 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.000 M team who is average at best, and the big 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:48.760 tim Iron Bowl. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.400 So I see, at the end of the day, obviously 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.760 it's the viewership everything. There's so much politics to go 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.120 into it. So I'm excited for the games to come up, though, Dude, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:09:59.600 I am. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.560 Fun fired up. I'm fired up. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:07.559 It's gonna be uh you think since he can beat Alabama. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.800 I think I think it's uh. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.720 I think it's good that they're in there because I mean, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.400 like we're saying about the Georgia thing like they were 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.800 number one, we're finding out that they're not the number 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.280 one team in the country. I think it's good to 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.960 see different teams in there. Again, like you're you're asking 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:28.680 the wrong person. 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:30.920 I know you're a Bama guy. I don't think they 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:32.880 got it. I don't think they have a shot either. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:38.160 Say anything, but I think it's good to see it. Yeah, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.600 it's our and now it's Bama's to lose, right, and 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.480 I think it's an underdog to now flopped. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.280 Dude. I was, honestly, I'm a huge knick stavement. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.400 It's nick Staban stand was rooting for Bama hard right 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.720 to even win that game. But the minute they I 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.120 saw them being number one, Like I want this team 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.000 to fail, and it's more so because the SEC bias 0:10:58.000 --> 0:10:59.400 that goes on. It's it's just. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:04.320 It's just I know you saw the post game and 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.240 you feed that yummy rat poison. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.160 Baby, I love that yummy rat poison. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.560 He was firing me up, talking crazy like that, dude, 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.319 And I love that Cincinnati's in because I don't think 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.480 they're a team that belongs in the college football playoff. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.840 So this is gonna be a good example of don't 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.800 put these little Are they D one? 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.400 Are they a D one football team? Are they? 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:29.200 Are they D one two? A? Oh they're D one? 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.040 Hey, it's just acting crazy. Yeah, it's just acting stupid. 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.360 Because once they get mopped, it's like, okay, let's let's 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.880 let's not do this experiment again. Because they beat what 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.080 Tulsa by seven and Navy by seven? One of them 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.120 maybe they it was it was single ditch and wins 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.960 against those two average football teams. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.400 You know what I mean. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:57.440 That's all you need to know. Honestly, it's what's up 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.280 your Yeah they're not there. Yeah, I I hope they 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.400 get absolutely waxed by Alabama. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.400 What covers Big ten? 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:13.280 They're trash though. My problem is this, right, I'm still 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.400 I'm still talking on my points. No, no, no, not 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.319 And I'm not saying you're I'm not saying what you're 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.040 I'm still like from the from the stands of like 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:25.560 every SEC person, like you're South Carolina fan, you're South 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:30.160 Carolina fan. You just ride just like Indiana or ride 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.080 the coatails of some of the Big ten schools. You're 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.120 in the same boat. You write coattails of Alabama and Georgia. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:42.720 I'm doing exactly what you're doing. Hey, everybody drop your stores. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:49.240 That is a great point. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.400 I got nothing to say to that, because you're you 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.679 are fucking right, dude, You're just riding the coattails. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:13:00.600 I'm literally doing what you're doing, all right. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.400 I think that's all I had. That's what I had 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.640 bottled up. Yeah, you's telling me. I think that's all 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.600 I had was. I just wanted to argue SEC versus 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:08.959 Big Ten. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.520 I also think I think this year is a good 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.920 example of why it should expand too. Yeah, because even 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:20.080 a two loss of how State team is a lethal team. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.640 Oh yeah, for sure, it sucks that they lost. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.040 Tails, Like, there's there's a chance for it to be 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:27.839 a fun expansion, and I. 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.240 Know everybody says that every year. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.280 But just take the five winners of the Power five 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.800 conferences and then do three at large teams for an 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:35.680 eight man tournament. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.760 You could go like with like, obviously football is different 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.880 than basketball, so you couldn't do like a sixty four 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.400 team bracket because it's just too many games it'll take 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.400 way too long. But how long do you think you 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.439 could extend a season realistically for like college athletes playing. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.400 I don't know. I would think adding another week, like. 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:57.600 Because it all it all equals add money. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:13:59.959 The teams that are in the playoff are taking three 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.080 weeks off right now, like you can easily add in 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.160 another week, do an eight man But I don't know 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.120 as far as like because it is big bro, like 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.600 there's so many college football teams out there. I would 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.880 personally love to see four man attorneys in the conference 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.800 play like two from each side, and then the winner 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.400 that goes to the finals, and then that winner. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:18.880 Goes to like a college football playoff er So I 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.920 still like baseball, does that have a regional and then 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.600 they go to the like the World Series type environment. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.560 Right right right? 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.640 Yeah, just the best, just football all week long. Dude, 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.440 run these kids into the ground. 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Is a Perdue playing Tennessee? Yeah, that's sneaky, 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:07.560 it's a sneaky solid game. Really, we'll have to go 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.440 to that boys. It's right here in the It's right 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:15.120 here in our backyard. I want to say, Penn State 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:22.600 is playing Arkansas, Arkansas in the Outback Bowl. That'll be solid. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.360 I'm you know, I don't know how good Arkansas is. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:25.720 I'm not. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.040 Sold on the boys of pen State, but I'm hoping 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.440 Penn State's winning. Dude, Penn State went like eight ots 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.280 deep with Illinois. That's tough to you know, swing a 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.320 sword for him. I came from Michigan. I hate that 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.400 Ohio State can't play SEC team. I would have loved 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:47.200 to seeing that. I think, Utah, that'll be a good game. God, dude, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.080 I God, I hope not. We really need to get 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.840 we really need to go undefeated. The Big Ten is 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.640 going defeated. I know, man, because all this stuff I'm 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.880 yelling and spouting off about like I'll be getting drug 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:02.360 football games. 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.120 Let's get into the NFL. Good day of NFL games. 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:09.280 There are a lot of last drive winners. Detroit finally 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.600 won a football game, the Boys at Detroit. That was 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:14.840 an awesome outcomes. 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:19.080 You guys. Did anybody happen to catch that game? Dude? 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:20.560 I don't know if anybody. 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.680 Golf driving making that last drive and throwing that touchdown pass. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.159 It's like, I'm fired up for him. But what are 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:28.080 we doing on defense? 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:28.760 Boys? 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.439 What are we doing on defense at the in Minnesota? 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:34.200 Who else do we have? 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:34.600 Dude? 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.400 I love seeing the the Eagles Jets game, not because 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.639 of the game itself, because Jets, but because of Gardner 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.239 Minshew after the game. Dude, How awesome was that? Just 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.879 watching dude just be dudes, not not a communicator than 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.240 just chest bumping and dapping up for five minutes straight. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:51.840 You go with a. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.679 Dap with the arm over in the hug and then 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:55.639 you get a little a few distance and then for 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.000 some reason it just repeats like you don't know what 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:58.960 to say, so let's. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:17:59.359 Just do it again. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.800 The best part about that whole video is the woman 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:07.720 the fans in the background, a gardener for the troops, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:09.760 signed this for the troops. 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:11.159 He's like mid Dap. 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.480 Gardner kids are over here, dude, that's the best. We 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.200 need to do a skit on that, like parents trying 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:18.680 to like. 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:19.639 Hey, we got kids. 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:20.720 It's not for me. 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:22.439 It's not for me trying to show my friends, but 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:26.400 it's for my kids. But that was a good one, 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.679 Washington and the Raiders watching the boys go at it. 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.439 I'm not I wasn't naming it this, but a lot 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.000 of people were calling it the Compton Bowl. The boy 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.160 had some a couple of jerseys out there. Now maybe 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.560 it was one guy in the same photo twice, Bob, 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.560 We're there's a couple. There were a couple of Compton 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:47.679 jerseys on the stands. I can't tell if it's the 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.240 distance and it's the same guy or it's two different photos, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.160 but I'm posting both of them like there's two fans 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.520 out there, like it's multiples. That was a good game, 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.639 though Washington is getting danger startling a four game win streak, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.440 and I know how lit that city is when when 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.800 Washington is winning football, and it is a fun place 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.800 to play when they're winning. God awful when they're losing. 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.040 And move up to the number six. But really, I know. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.199 They're in they're they're like in the playoffs right now, 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.080 right if they if the season ended today. 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:16.359 Yeah, they jumped the Niners. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.680 A tough loss by the Niners, bloss. I know, brother, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:21.919 that's hard. That's hard losing the Seahawks like. 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.680 That too, every time they looking good though. 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.560 Oh you had a game, for sure, he had a. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.680 Game, brother, and fantasy owners out there. 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:29.639 Uh. 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.160 And then the Steelers Raven game, that one was awesome. 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.520 I love how hardball went for two at the end. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.919 I know they lost and didn't get it, but what 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.480 an awesome call, like, especially with that rivalry too, those 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.199 whole Steeler Raven's rivalry. Love how you just put his 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.159 nuts on the table. They didn't get it, but you know, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.399 I don't know, dude, what do you think? 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:57.200 I mean? 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.679 Both like, if you're the if you're the title, if 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.400 you're the you're like, I should have had that. 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.520 Because you know you can make one handed catches and 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:04.640 then if you're Lamar in. 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.080 That pocket and it collapse right then and there. 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.879 But right there with you putting his nuts on the 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:10.680 table going for two. 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:11.480 Loved it, bro. 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:16.280 I was fired up right before Yellowstone came on, which 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:17.879 is a phenomenal. So you guys need to get in 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.400 your life? Are you guys, Garrett? You caught up on Yellowstone? 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.840 Oh my god, man, Rip is the scariest human being alive. 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.719 I haven't watched the New Succession yet. I'm I'm up 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.600 to date. I'm not up to the date currently, but 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:33.960 I've watched up until this past week. That's a good 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.159 show too. I feel like it's drug out a little bit, 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:41.760 though not really, bro Yellowstone is way more violent. 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.280 I mean violent, but like they're also in Yellowstone other 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:48.359 people are like fun and hellies. True, it's that same 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.720 wars going on in Succession. Kids trying to take it 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:52.640 right right. 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.520 I just think Yellowstone is oh well yeah, just put 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:56.320 it in my veins. 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.280 We're not city boys. Yeah. 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:00.960 And then Paramount Plus is coming out with the eighteen 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:05.160 eighty three just a red Dead Redemption spin off. Tim McGraw, 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.159 did he look like he's He's acting his ass off 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:08.479 out there. 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:10.879 He's going to be the dad again? I know. Friday 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.679 Night Lights? What happened to my lamp? Can't hold on 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:17.200 to the lamp, can't hold on to the football. Uh? 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:23.160 What Jake Paul rematch with Tyron Woodley? Why is Tyron 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:24.920 Woodley get back in this Fury back out. 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:27.680 Yeah, that well, he just backed out. They said there 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:28.840 was medical issues. 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.280 I believe what are your thoughts. Yeah, you're in the 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.400 fighting world, you're a fighter analyst. 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.240 I don't think he actually has medical issues. I think 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.280 Jake Paul would rather fight Tyron Woodley just for. 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.440 The rematch and build the hype because. 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.119 I think he knows he would lose to Tommy Fury 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:50.000 and it wouldn't be a good fight. And with Woodley 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:51.639 there's like a little bit more there. 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.199 Lean up so that you can at least be in 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.680 the camera and the people who are watching on YouTube. 0:21:57.680 --> 0:21:59.000 Does you don't have to stare at me when they're 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.639 hearing your voice. That's JP by the way. 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:06.320 Guys, man, I'm from I'm from South Carolina, same place 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:07.600 as Kevin Garnett Ray Allen. 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:12.720 Uh hey, that's a good theory. Though. Scared to lose, Yeah, 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:14.720 you think Jake's scared to lose. He's gonna go. 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.359 But I think I think Tyrone is I think Tyroann 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:18.120 can knock him out. 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:28.080 Tommy back, I think, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't really 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:32.120 want this fight. Yeah, and Tyrone has the tattoo. 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.439 Now that's gonna be a huge bag for Tommy and 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:35.120 an NBA. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.640 So you can't tell me, Oh yeah, and I think 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:39.120 he's willing to do that a lot. 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.360 You know, do you not think so at to ask 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:44.720 somebody when he's like, oh and now I know you're scared. 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:49.840 Of me, let's fight at that point. That's true, great points, 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:51.560 but all conversation. 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:53.720 Yeah, I mean, all fear he would have gotten from 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:59.480 the fight is money, and any of these guys, that's 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.440 what I'm sad think Jake Paul would give him the 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:02.320 money anyways. 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:07.800 What if it is a medical reason, truly, like there's 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:10.639 an actual medical reason, just gets his shot. 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.240 But yeah, if somebody was saying that there might be 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:16.600 a third third? 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.680 What fight between Tyron and Jake, like they're trying to 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.879 set up a trilogy? 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.080 I mean yeah, I mean I don't know. I'm not 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:28.960 in the fight game, but I should be. Uh No, 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:32.639 I mean Jake Paul said if Woodley knocked him out, 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.400 he'd get an extra five hundred grand. That just kind 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.480 of seems like a foreshadowing to me to. 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:39.320 Get a trilogy. 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.000 Yeah, why not more money? I mean, is he gonna 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:43.680 make more money off of Fury or Woodley? 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:45.800 That's true, and Woodley, even if he knocks him out, 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.119 Woodley will still lean into that because it's not like 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.960 Woodley's gonna Woodley's and be in the actual fight game. 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.919 Woodley's in it just for the bag. He's just in 0:23:52.960 --> 0:24:00.960 it for the money in the entertainment at this point. Yeah, 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.920 all good points, Yeah, all good, all good, all good. 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:05.800 They said the first time Box. 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:07.800 No doubt. 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.119 I mean, I do hope they just go after it, because. 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.000 It sucks when everybody have, like everybody has like valid 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.600 conspiracy theories out there, you know what I mean, And 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.680 you just hope that they're actually fighting for the sake 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.680 of the sport, like you could always know when the 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.119 where the money grabs and everything else is like with 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.440 Roy Jones Junior and Mike Tyson and shit like that. 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:31.879 But yeah, I hope it's that way. I hope they 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.040 just get after it. I hope Tyron lets him go 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.679 this time. For the love of God, Tyrone do it 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:42.439 for Missouri. Let's get into the mirror Dula episode. So 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.000 we got to sit out with a mirror back in July. 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.440 We didn't we forget man, I hate that I forgot 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:49.919 to ask him about how well in doubt he is, 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.160 but he is a Mirrordula is now with the Panthers. 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:54.919 He's now with the Vikings. Back when we did this 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.399 interview in July, uh, he was with the Vikings. A 0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:58.920 mir and I go way back. We went to college 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.560 together in Nebraska. Nebraska fans are gonna love this. There's 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.199 a lot of Nebraska talk, a lot of good a 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.120 lot of good stories. In the middle of games, we 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:08.800 talk a little bit about coach bo I know, we 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.520 were talking about when bo Is gonna come on the podcast, 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.280 So I don't know what will be in there, not exactly, 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:16.679 but Nebraska fans are gonna love this. 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:18.920 Listen, you guys don't have a game. There's no more 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:19.520 games to watch. 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:20.960 So this is a great win for the state of 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:25.199 Nebraska right now because Nebraska fans can now watch an 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.359 Amir Abdullah interview on Busting with the Boys and Amir 0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:32.560 also talks about Creative House Production his his production company 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.359 called Creative House. You can follow them on Instagram there 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:39.080 on on the social media's uh. He talks in depth 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:40.879 about that things that he's into, a lot of stuff 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:42.800 that he's into out the field. No Mirror is a 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.359 very well spoken cat He's one of those dudes that 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.600 he makes you want to read, He makes you want 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:50.560 to learn more, makes you want to be in tune 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:52.520 with yourself more just as a person and getting better 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.639 as a person. He talks very much from a stance 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.120 of like, you know, he's just in a single player game, 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.000 like playing against himself all the time, Like he's always 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.440 trying to better himself. And he's somebody I look back 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.600 on as a teammate and a good friend to where 0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:08.320 I'm like, he's somebody who mentors me indirectly, like I 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:09.640 would never tell him to his face. 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.040 I mean I would tell him to his face. But 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:12.119 it's like one of those. 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.920 Friends that like, you don't know that you're rubbing off 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.000 on me because I watch you from afar and I 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.879 really respect everything he's about. But you guys all like 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.639 this interview a lot. And again, if you're on YouTube 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.920 right now, take a moment like the boys subscribe, leave 0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:28.920 a real comment. If you're listening on audio, leave a 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:32.000 five star review. But yeah, let's get into him. Man 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:38.880 A Mirrabdullah, Carolina Panthers, also former Nebraska great rolling Good 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.040 to go the fucking boys. 0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:42.520 Listen. 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.520 It's gonna feel a little formal first, you know what 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.320 I mean, Like I got my boy a mirrab dou law, 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.640 I just said, no boys, I looked at you. Yeah, 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:56.119 you're on the bus now, bro. I know it's been 0:26:56.160 --> 0:27:00.000 a long ass time. You've given me a lot of grief, respectfully. 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:00.560 Yeah. 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.119 Yeah, like it's merited. A lot of the boys do 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.440 give me grief when they haven't been that they haven't 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.600 been on the bus yet. I'll tell you when it 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.240 pains me the most. It was last year when we 0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.280 made the boxes. I sent you one though, right, yeah, 0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:15.520 because there was like a there's like a part of 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.200 me that felt like like, damn. 0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.520 Did everyone who got a box? Were they already on 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:19.840 the show? 0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.359 They were, Yeah, they were on the bus and roster. Yeah. 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.600 It wasn't like, you know, obviously I didn't just make 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.520 busting like busting boxes from my friends, but that it 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.199 was starting to sink in, like I gotta get the 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:30.800 fellas on. 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:33.800 I appreciate it though, because it came in a time 0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.320 of camp where I was feeling really low. I was 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.560 feeling low. You know, you kind of start losing your juice. 0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.159 You show up the camp, You're like, all right, I'm 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.640 ready to go and you need that care package. Yeah, 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.040 Asian hadn't sent me one yet. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.280 you put me on a back burner, you put me 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:47.760 on the front. 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:48.760 Broh. I saw. 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:50.520 I wanted to do those boxes because I was always 0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.440 the guy that never got the care packages, like people 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:59.000 getting from their agencies from the mud off the mud 0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.760 with you and I would sit there and mat like, man, 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.919 they get these care packages. Yeah, blah blah blah, and 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:06.479 there you know, you get the care package and your 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:07.240 kind of said, oh, it's. 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.399 My agency's but this is that. So it's like, yo, 0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.280 let's make a bus and care bagagees. People might be 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.240 hype and be like, oh, you know my boy. Busting 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:13.880 with the boys. 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:15.960 Means a lot. Bro It means like y'all sending something 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:16.199 out this. 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.639 Year, we're late if we are sending them out. I 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.320 just started thinking about on the honeymoon. This is so 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.080 to give context. Obviously this is backlog, but I just 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.560 got back from the honeymoon last night. Landed at like 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.840 ten ten thirty emirs in town. 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:31.600 Just for this. 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.199 We figured it out to get him in Nashville. But 0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.280 I'm straight off the honeymoon. That's the first pot out 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.880 outside of the honeymoon. You're obviously one of Nebraska's greatest 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:45.760 running backs of all time. The do you think do 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.960 you believe obviously we're joking when we're not joking, but 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.200 also you're playing around being with that confidence, but do 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:54.719 you think you are the greatest running back to ever 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:55.920 laced him up in Nebraska? 0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.720 Ah, that's a that's a tough question. 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.080 It's tough just because I feel like every generation of 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:06.240 football is different, and I was in a generation of 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.080 football where we came up in a generation of football 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:13.040 where the running back position has really really changed. 0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.400 It's not really just running back anymore. It's more like 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:16.400 a hybrid position. 0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.320 They split me out wide, played a lot of receiver, 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.520 caught the ball a lot. The traditional iback position at 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:28.560 Nebraska has a different definition today than what it had 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:33.840 back when you had Microziers, Lawrence Phillips, even am On Greens. 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.800 You know guys who are obviously Hall of famers in 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:41.160 Nebraska's history. So I think it's very subjective, you know 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.200 what I mean. I try not to get too much 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.760 into that, but I consider myself top three and I'm 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:48.520 not two or three. 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.720 Okay, I was gonna say very I was gonna say 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:53.920 a very well put together answer. 0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:55.720 You know, if we're sitting in the calf back and 0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.120 they were sitting in the Hawks. 0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.880 Now you say we go to the spring game next year, 0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:01.200 We're sitting there and I'm like, yo, you think you're 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:02.280 the greatest running back of all time. 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.000 And I only say that just because I move with 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.600 a different intention now in life, I feel like, you 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.720 gotta really speak who you want to be. You gotta 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.880 really embody who you think you are. So being passive 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:19.960 in life will only bring you mediocre things. I really 0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:21.600 believe that, you know, even if you're doing it for 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:23.280 good intention, stuff like oh I want to be humble 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.600 around these people. The universe hear's that, and it gives 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:30.640 you back mediocrity. So like, really speaking who you are 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.960 is important, and that's that's where I'm setting my intentions 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.600 moving forward, Like, you gotta speak what you really want 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:38.480 and I don't want to be mediocre. So I'm gonna 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.080 say I'm the best. And it's it's not to disrespect 0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.040 anyone to have to say like, oh, this guy wasn't 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.080 better than me. I'm sure Nebraska fans are gonna be 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.320 watching this like, ah, he was good, but he's not 0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.400 the best, and my mom, I'm the best, and I'm 0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:50.720 gonna take that to the grave. 0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.280 You know. Yeah, I meanstistically, I if we could pull 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.840 some of the stats for like the Nebraska time stuff, 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.360 where are you at and some of those I remember 0:30:58.360 --> 0:30:59.959 walking on the halls in your ivys at the time. 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:00.920 If a for you. 0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:05.000 All purpose, I'm number one all time rushing yards, I'm 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.840 number two, which I'm pissed because I got hurt senior 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.720 year Perdue game. And then it's a couple of games 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:12.800 I look back where we were beating the hell out 0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.560 of teams and they pulled me out like first half, 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.880 and I'm like maybe one hundred and forty yards behind 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.480 Mike Rozier, who's actually number one. And I probably would 0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.680 have easily gotten that if I wasn't pulled in a 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.680 couple of those games, or specifically that Purdue game where 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.160 I didn't, I virtually didn't play true. 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.040 But you also got to think too, like I'm sure 0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.800 Rosie as some of those greats who are on those teams, 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:34.400 I'm sure they were getting pulled in some of the games. 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:36.640 Yeah, that's know what I mean, that's true, especially in 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:37.000 the nineties. 0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:38.320 They're probably getting a ate that halftime. 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.200 And did Rozier go all four years? Because I went 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:41.480 all four years even though I didn't start. 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:42.880 I'm not sure. I'm not. I'm not. 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.520 My Nebraska history isn't that isn't that fine tuned. It 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.440 is fine tune when it comes to talking like about 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:49.360 Levonte's stats. 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.040 Leonte like, I sit and talk with Rude. 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.400 And uh, I'm like, it's crazy to think Levante was 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.440 screeping up on Rude. And Levante was only there two years. 0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:58.920 Bookie was only there two years. 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:04.400 I say this all the time, just suspect because favorite 0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:06.000 linebacker I've ever played with. 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.840 Yo, That's why I had to disclaim to be honest. 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.160 I didn't think it was gonna hurt. 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:19.040 That twisted twist. 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:25.080 I know only just he really is. He's a savage. 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.520 Never spoke, made every play. 0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.560 It wasn't a time where Levante was in position to 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:32.040 make a play that I'm like. 0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:35.240 Oh damn, he missed that play. Yeah, you're right that, 0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:35.880 you know what I'm saying. 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.960 I'm sure he made a play when you needed a play. 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:38.720 He made time. 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.600 I'm always thinking about that Ohio State game when we 0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.600 were playing Braxton Miller and Braxton Miller was on like 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.240 a freshman year terror, just killing my. 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.520 Jocks still at the fifty yard line. Could you can 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:50.720 find that for sure? Sometimes we'll replay on Big Tam. 0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.520 I would say that's still. Braxton Miller is one of 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.960 the craziest athletes I've ever seen. I know, like he 0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.480 had to kind of move a receiver unnatural position to 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.760 him in the NFL, so things didn't work out now aspect, 0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:04.120 but college quarterbacks, Braxton Miller was crazy and he was 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.440 just murdering us. We were losing like twenty four to 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.320 like three right before the half. 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.320 I mean, it was like the most historic comeback in 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:11.840 the brasket. 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.680 Lavonte sparked that comeback. I remember he hit him lifting 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.200 up because Blaxton was trying to go down, stopped him 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.000 from going down, ripped the ball and recovered it, and 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.040 that changed the entire momentum for the game. 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:24.360 And I was just like, Bro, that was one of 0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.120 the most iconic players I've ever seen. 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.400 Bro, It's insane. And there's another. 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:33.360 There's another one against we Good, there's another one against Iowa. 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:37.520 I think about that. I think they were in they 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:39.160 might have been an empty the tight end rent of. 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.920 Stickerround, pushed Leavonte down, pushed off, Leavonte fell backwards. Dude 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.480 catches the ball. He's obviously he's going up the sideline. 0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.680 But Levonte gets pushed down right and he throws up 0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.000 his He throws up his hands and like looks like 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.400 looks at the ref immediately like gets up, chases old 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.080 boy down, strips the ball from him and takes it 0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:59.160 from him and recovers and it's our ball. You gotta fight, 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.360 you gotta When we were rolling the YouTube, we gotta 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:02.080 find that play. 0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:03.120 Too, like that. 0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.040 This was my junior year, so the last game of 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:06.920 the season. It was last game of the season. It's 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.880 when I uh, that was actually a game a pivotal 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:11.440 moment for me because it was the first time I 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.440 actually stood up and spoke in front of the team. 0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.279 It was the night before, it was the day before 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.319 that game because they were having a senior day and 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.080 so I was like, that was my first time speaking. 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.880 I remember that I was so nervous, my heart was 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:23.600 in my stomach. 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.560 Bro And afterwards, b k A grabb me. He's like, 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.359 that's the most remember that's the most height ball. 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.680 And from then I never felt like It made me 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.680 feel good about actually speaking up, you know, in because you're. 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.960 So nervous when you're young, you know what I mean. 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.080 But dude, I was fortunate to have seniors like y'all 0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.160 around me because it gave me so much more confidence. 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.880 Because when I came into Nebraska, no one thought I 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.799 was going to be what I was because I was 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.960 like a two star maybe three star recruit. 0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.000 At Alabama. You were like a last minute recruit. Like 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.120 we had signed Aaron Green, who was the. 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.040 Number it's like a four star running back. 0:34:57.880 --> 0:34:59.799 Five star, number two running back in the country coming 0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.120 out school. And then Brayland the year before. He was 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.520 a late qualifier, so he was supposed to be in 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.160 the class ahead of me, but he qualified, is true. 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:09.400 I didn't, so I forgot about it with those dudes, 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:13.920 and I just surrounded myself with you, Rex Levante from 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:14.719 time to time, got. 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.279 Rex was there, you know what I mean? Rex was there. 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.000 I was just like bro' talk about like the running 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:19.359 back room. 0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.520 Yeah, run room was thick, but we did. 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.719 We had, uh, we had good seniors when I was 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.360 a junior. I don't remember like we had good seniors 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:28.840 when I was first there, but it was like Bo's 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.319 first year there, you know what I mean, first first year, 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.160 Like the whole culture is trying to get established and 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.840 figured out. But yeah, Levante's senior class. I love those dudes. 0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:38.920 But yeah, bro, when you I didn't even know, I 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:40.400 forget that you were a sophomore when I was a 0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:41.480 senior all time because. 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:42.839 We all hung out so much. 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.080 Rex was a beast man. What do you think about, 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.319 like when you think of he look at you, the 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.839 legacy he left in Nebraska, Like your senior year, I'll 0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.040 never forget this. This play right here, stopped this play right. 0:35:55.920 --> 0:36:03.000 Here McNeice, McNeice, You guys play McNee no disrespect to him, 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:04.399 but we always like. 0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:05.520 They almost clapped us. 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.000 Yeah, we'll get to the Poleani era in a second two. 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.320 But like there was always a game where we almost 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.360 fucking lost, so we weren't supposed to lose. Like my 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.000 one of my years, it was South Dakota State. This 0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:19.800 their senior year. They had you guys had all the 0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:21.399 hap in the world. Where were you ranked right here? 0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.840 Oh, Trey Lance, we were nineteen. 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.280 It was still early in the year, but like midway 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.560 through this year, we were like seven in the country. Yeah, 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:34.080 you guys were eight no going into uh Michigan State. 0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:35.879 Yeah, and you guys lost like it was like last 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:36.359 second too. 0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.719 Yeah, but this play right here, there's thirty thirty five 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:43.040 seconds left in the game. Bro, third and six, it's 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:44.600 twenty four to twenty four and bress, you're not have 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.719 won this fucking game. No, but a mere mixers play. 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:54.279 That's like on the top ten four weeks. Crazy man, Hey, 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:55.719 when you made when you make a play like that, 0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.840 like what like especially in Nebraska, like what's that? Dude? 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.520 Talk about your scene year a little bit, especially moments 0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.600 like this when you have ninety something. 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.360 Strong man, I'll go I'll go right into this play 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:10.480 because first off, it's third and six. We had thrown 0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.160 a couple you know, we threw a stop route to 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.520 I think Kenny before that play, and then we try 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.080 to go deep to Jordan Western Camp. 0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.240 So it's third and six and we just called four verts, 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.680 which is a horrible call. It was a horrible call. 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:24.000 Man. 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.040 I'm just like, yo, we we can get a good 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.239 play call in and just we got time we had 0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:30.719 I think we had a time out left. You know, 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:38.799 we called for were playing giving up, giving up. They're 0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:42.000 like funk. We just lost. But my son, he just 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.360 he keeps running four verse. He keeps me successful with it. 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:46.160 Yo. 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:48.160 So I'm not even supposed to get the ball on 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.759 this I'm just running the option route underneath. And these 0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.960 dudes are terrible. Those dudes, they definitely should have made 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.959 that play. But they definitely should have made that play. 0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.560 But I remember getting the ball, and when the ball 0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.040 was in there, I was just saying, like, why the 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:03.560 fuck is the ball coming to me? 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.000 I have like a three to five yard route. 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.920 I'm not even past the sticks, and it started off 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.319 very pessimistic for me. I was like, fuck, We're about 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:13.919 to have to pump the ball back to these dudes 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.040 with time left. I turned around and I see two 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:20.040 guys just running at me out of control, so I 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.040 tried to cut back in. I spun off one dude 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.000 who tried to go loan on me, and at that 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:25.280 point I was like, man, I could score. 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:27.279 Westy threw a block for me late. 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:32.280 But it was crazy, just the energy of the stadium 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.000 after that play. 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:34.840 I feel like a god. 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:36.399 I felt like a god. 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:40.000 It was the first time where I had really understood 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:45.040 like my impact at Nebraska because the year before I'd 0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.400 had like a historic year. I went for like eighteen 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.080 hundred yards on the ground as a junior, and I 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.400 had a decision to either you know, leave a comeback. 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.960 That's right, Yeah, I remember that. 0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:55.520 We've come back. 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.319 My draft grade when I sent them, you know, they 0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:58.880 do like the projection draft grade. 0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.040 It was like I heard a fourth round, which is 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:02.480 pretty high. But I was like, you. 0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.600 Made an announcement to come back to I made an announcement, 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.600 remember here, but coming back just to love that that 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.000 state showed me coming back. I really felt it that play, 0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.320 like they were chanting my name in the crowd after 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.600 that play because I just scored a walk off, you know, 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.400 win for the team against a team we definitely should 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:25.880 have been beating. 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:31.520 You know, so what was the But at the same time, well, 0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:33.879 because I know what goes to your head, like what's 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:35.839 coach at the game? 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.600 Well, you know, you know, Bo Bo was never even excited. 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.600 We came to the sideline. Bow's face is still stone cold, 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.720 just like all right, you know what I mean, thank you? 0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:49.160 But we almost He's the only thing about how I'm 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:50.880 gonna rip this team's ass when I get in the 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:54.040 locker room. So I come in after, you know, doing 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:56.040 a couple of postgame interviews, and I'm like, I'm. 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:57.799 Kind of hype. I'm like, yeah, we did that. We 0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.200 did that. And I come in. 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:00.879 I have to settle my up down because I see 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.000 everyone else is like quiet because bo is just like 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.640 ripping their ass bow like double takes sees me comes in, 0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:07.719 He's like, you. 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:09.400 Guys better fucking thank God. 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.960 For a doulah, And I was just dying. I was 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.880 just like, yo, bow crazy man dog. 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.839 You know, we've talked, We've talked about before. 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:19.759 So we we have a group chat that's went on 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.359 every day since college, literally every fucking day. 0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.080 Care Like, how many of us are there? There's like 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:26.799 eight or nine of us. 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:31.960 Quincy, Toby, Kenney, Josh to Nay Gary, you me so 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.680 eight eight And he was a late edition because he's 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:35.240 a lot younger. 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.640 Yeah, I was a later edition. Were you I think? 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:39.920 So you want a staple? 0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.719 I wasn't a No, I wasn't a staple. I got 0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:43.560 in fairly quick. 0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:45.960 I got into the club club quick because you guys 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.600 felt like you needed an edition of You needed an 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:49.839 edition of a couple of white guys. 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:50.320 We need it. 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.560 We needed yeah, you know what I'm saying, it was like, 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.360 who's the next white guy we can get innate was 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.440 the next white snake? 0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.319 But uh so we've had this group chat running ever. 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.560 We obviously follow in Nebraska like fairly closely, like we're 0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.840 always keeping up with the boys. Obviously when Bo got fired, 0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.160 we have our group Chad, like you're like following him 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:12.800 throughout this whole thing. Mike Riley comes through now, Scott Frost. 0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.600 But we've always been like vocal about our time at 0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:18.200 Nebraska and stuff. And I know one thing we talk 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.359 about and we're actually gonna have bow on. Bo's coming 0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:24.120 to get on the bus next week. Actually nice, but 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:29.960 like as phenomenal of a coach because I told when 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:31.880 I was telling Charles, my new wife, when I was 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.279 telling Charle that Bo's coming on, I was stoke for 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.160 to finally meet him, because I'm like, Yo, this man 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.319 legitimately shaped a lot of who I am right now, 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.399 like a lot of what he taught, like a lot 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.759 of his stuff, a lot of his quotes, a lot 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.600 of all of it. The culture and everything I get 0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.160 from Bo, because you know, you're able to imprint on 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.640 kids when they first get to college. And but his 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.359 downfall was always in my opinion, which I will which 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.040 which we will get to talk about, was his composure 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:00.759 and like the big moment, it's in the big games. 0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:04.480 I remember when it was. It was really like standing 0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.960 out to me. Never when I played, because you always, 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:08.760 you know how it was playing for Bo. You always 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.919 felt like, fuck, I'm letting the squad down. I'm letting 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:12.799 like damn, I hate It's like pissing off your dad. 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.080 You never want to let your dad down. And I 0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:18.120 remember y'all were up. You guys were eight and no 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:21.279 you're playing or eight and one, maybe playing Wisconsins. I 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.319 was going to say, the same game, and y'all were up. 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.720 What was it seventeen to three? Seventeen to three? And 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.160 who was the running back? 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.520 Are we all right? With the rain going on? And 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:37.440 Melvin Gordon jumps over, maybe Corey cous. 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.759 Gordon, Corey Cooper, We're still up and takes it to 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.400 the house and it's seventeen ten, about to be halftime. Yeah, 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.800 and Bo is just losing it on the sideline, and 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:48.800 I'm thinking of my head now, like be like playing 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.560 in the league a couple of years, seeing what my 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.120 growth was like from coaching when like you know, not 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:56.719 being afraid to mess up and just playing freely, like 0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.000 Bo's just ripping theseers. I'm like, yo, why why is 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:00.799 he losing it on these And they're about to be 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.279 up seventeen to ten on a good Wisconsin team and 0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.640 they need this, they need this going into the second half. 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:06.719 But it just made me think of. 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.839 All the times where we lost with some of them 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.960 big games, and obviously it's not because of Bow, but 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.959 you think about some of those moments and you're like, damn, 0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:17.359 Like if we would have kept our composure, like we 0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.880 could have probably been fine or better off in those moments. 0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:23.480 Bro, you kill the head, the body will follow. Yeah, 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.759 every time. And Bow would lose his head a lot 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.719 of times. And like you said, as much as the 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:33.200 fans didn't understand this, Bowl was a leader, oh very much. 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.520 So it's like his tenacity, his passion. We fed off 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.000 of Bow when Bow got hype, when the defense would 0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.760 shut somebody out three and out that first drive, Like say, 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.560 we used to always kick off first because he counted 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.600 on his defense. When you guys got that first three 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.319 and out and how hype he was. The offense would 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:51.239 see that and we would set the tone for the 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.480 entire game. Now, on the flip side, if you guys 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:57.200 came out and they threw a bomb the first player 0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.560 and complete it, the whole energy of the team was 0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.640 down because Bow was already losing the ship, because our leader, 0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.640 the head of our group, is already falling, you know. 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:10.680 And I feel like that's something where maybe his pro 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.600 experience didn't always translate, because you know, Bow was a 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:14.040 pro guy. 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.560 You know, he coached the pros, and as a pro, you're. 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:20.000 Expected as an independent contract, as a professional, to keep 0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:21.880 your hand no matter what you know as a player. 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.000 But as college kids who are very malleable, like you said. 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:28.200 Who are young coming from these high school atmospheres, and 0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.919 you see your head coach pissed off and and your 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.480 view losing this faith in you. Oh man, you start 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.520 playing lackluster, You start making mistakes that you would never 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:39.840 mistake make before. 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:44.600 Just you're like, holy shit, the fan insins hit the fan, 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.360 you know right now. 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.520 Like it's like a play with was like the first 0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:49.880 play of the game would be like a run and 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.680 maybe the offense gets four yards. 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.640 Yeah, and he's already too fucking much, you know what 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:56.719 I mean. I'm telling you. 0:44:57.760 --> 0:44:59.799 And this isn't like a this isn't a segment where 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:01.719 I'm in here and we're just talking about downfalls of 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.120 Bo Planer saying like this is why we weren't this 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.399 and that, like you just with the maturity we've had 0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:08.200 now and you're able to think back on like how 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.479 we've been coached over the years and different things. 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.120 I mean, look at my man and Carl's no better 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:14.279 Carl next to that. 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:21.319 Yeah yeah, yeah, but Bo, like you fucking loved him 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.200 and he held such a high standard. But in some 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.800 of those moments, like it took me going to Rex 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.040 for like some of my mental were my mental actually 0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:30.400 started to take off a little better and go in 0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:31.800 the other not the other direction. 0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:37.120 No, Rex Burk And obviously you guys are on offense, 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:38.560 so it was it's you guys. 0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.560 I felt like didn't have to deal as much as 0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.640 Bo because you guys weren't on the defensive side. But 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:44.799 I remember like Rex would always carry himself in such 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.040 a way with confidence where he would be able to 0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.000 move on to the next player. Nothing really ever seemed 0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.759 to affect us. And I remember asking him like, hey, 0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.799 do you have any like uh stuff? You listened to 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.879 or books or anything like that that helped helps you out, 0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.600 like your mental and he's like, bro read Mental Edge 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.080 by Kenneth Baum in that book The Mental Edge will 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:06.120 put some link or something somewhere to go to Amazon 0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:07.920 or something like that. But the Mental Edge is literally 0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:11.080 what opened me up to the sports psychology side of 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:14.680 everything and reading books and like using your mental as 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:18.239 an advantage because we subconsciously and it just it just 0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:22.640 naturally happens, like you think what you think, you become 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:23.640 like you were kind of talking. 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.319 About earlier, the universe and everything like that, which we'll 0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:25.800 get into. 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.279 But I'm reading this book and I'm like, yeah, I've 0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:30.719 been using my head as like a disadvantage of all 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:32.560 the time because I'm out there, I'll be on the 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.520 open field. They're like starting to approach a tackle or 0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.280 pursue or something like that. I'm thinking, don't missus tackle 0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.600 because of how you might look on film to or 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.359 how the might coaches talk about you in the meeting 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.520 room toward then it when it carries over and they 0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:45.040 coach you up in the in the film room, and 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.279 you're thinking, all, this is what the coaches think about me, 0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.960 this is how I'm defined in the coach's meeting room. 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:50.719 You know what I mean. 0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.560 And then like I realized, like the way my brain 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.479 is going, I'm using it at such a disadvantage because 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:56.960 of the way. 0:46:56.840 --> 0:47:01.520 I'm talking to myself. But oh, like he helped me out. 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.080 That book is honestly what open my brain up to 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.760 like a lot of these things outside of like learning 0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:08.919 through the process that Bo always talked. 0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:11.880 That's interesting you're talking about you know, you're talking to 0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:15.799 Rex about the mental side of things and how it 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.239 can be a weapon or it could be your disadvantage, 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.360 because I definitely think the very thing that empowers you 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.520 in life can also devour you in life. You know, 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.920 I think a lot of times it's good to know 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.759 a lot, but trying to seek too much knowledge can 0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:30.880 also make you very timid, because once you know a 0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.239 lot of shit, you're like, well, I can't do that 0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.520 because I learned this, and that tells me not to 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:37.480 do that. Well I can't, you know, I can't move 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.840 this way because I can also bring me this in life, 0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:44.359 and you start overthinking everything when you know too much. 0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:46.000 Some things you got to kind of just leave up 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:49.879 the chance. And I think that's a delicate balance kind 0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:54.480 of cycling back to Bo that sometimes he didn't let happen. 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.480 He didn't allow the ebbs and flows of the game 0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.360 to be what they are before he made his decision. 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.680 Like this is bad, you know what I mean? Things 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.439 were bad just because he understood the ex's and old 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.680 so much, understood his scheme so well that if one 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:11.000 person is out of alignment, which is going to happen, 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:12.360 every game is different. 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.120 He was just on fire, you know what I mean. 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.680 And it's crazy because the people who play with him, who, uh, 0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:22.440 who's the tight ends coach coach Cotton. No, not coach Cotton. 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.040 I'm thinking of somebody else. He had his son, he 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:27.600 came from Bama. He was like the Mike Marrow coach 0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:30.480 Coach Marrow because he played with them at state, right, 0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:32.520 or play with him in high school with him or 0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:32.880 something like that. 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.040 And it's just crazy because people are like, Yo, that's 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:35.440 that's Bo. 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.400 Like he's been that way even as a player, because 0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:39.239 he was always out there on the field, Like because 0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:40.960 he was a captain at Ohio State, I believe I 0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:42.120 would's dad. 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.760 Yeah, Like the whole family is crazy. 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.040 Bro, who's the they said the brother would be at 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:47.520 the game. 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.000 And he would be in the stands fucking swinging on 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:50.800 fans and stuff. 0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:52.320 Bro Youngstown. 0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.719 They need a thirty for thirty on young Yeah in 0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:58.360 Ohio because Jim Trussell. 0:48:58.000 --> 0:48:58.520 Came from there. 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:03.480 The Stoops brothers, Soup's brothers, Bo Polini, it's like a 0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:08.480 mobster like mentality, but they like football mob mobsters weird. 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.359 They do have a thirty for thirty on it. It's 0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:16.960 called the Youngstown Boys. Oh they do okay. 0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:18.520 Hey, they just will ship like so Bo's brother, the 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.080 one who was the fan that would go to the games. 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:21.720 He wasn't Carl or Bo coaching. 0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:22.040 He was. 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:25.120 I forget what the brother's name is. But his son Mark, 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:30.480 Yeah it might be Mark playing. Yeah either Mark was. 0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.279 Because he because Mark was a junior of his dad. 0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:35.520 Yeah so Mark, ye yeah yeah ye, But his son 0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:38.680 Mark played for US right and Mark he what was he? 0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:39.480 A backup center? 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:41.560 Remember a couple of games? 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:44.880 Remember when he shot himself during practice or workouts? 0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.160 He said himself twice he shipped. 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:51.280 Himself and continued to practice and play at center. 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.440 Yeah at center's respectful, that's disrespectful. 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.480 And that man lived with fear talking about nah like 0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:58.200 I'm not gonna do that. 0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:00.000 My uncle y'all got those white pants to. 0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:02.799 Yeah, bro, what there's got to be I think there's 0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.879 a photo somewhere. I'll try to find it so we can, uh. Bro, 0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.000 Mark was funny, but he's like, oh that's you know, 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:09.200 that's my family. 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:11.560 Oh yeah, just condition that way. 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.520 But like we say, all this stuff too, and you 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:20.480 you can't. You can't mistake it for the downfall or anything, 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:26.080 right because since then there has been no nine to four, 0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:27.879 ten and four, Like, yeah, we lost some big moments 0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.200 and some big games and people forget too, like, Okay, 0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.280 he couldn't couldn't keep his head in the big moments. 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:34.680 Like my senior year we had seven We had seven 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:38.040 comebacks in the second half. That year was fucking memorable. 0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.759 I always say that was one of the rosters. We 0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.200 tricked it off against Northwestern that year. We tricked it off. 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:44.760 I don't know how that happened. 0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:46.480 We had just we tricked it off against the team 0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:48.360 every year, Like the year after we lost to Texas 0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:50.279 in the Big twelve championship, we tricked it off by 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:52.200 losing to them at home. 0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:54.920 For whatever reason. We tricked it off against Northwestern. 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:59.080 Yeah, after we had just beaten a star studyed Michigan 0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.000 State team, Kirk Cousins my father back now, they had 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:06.799 like Le'Veon Bell, Edwin Baker, bj Cunningham, all those receivers. 0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:09.120 Defense. What's the big tall d in Golson? 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:10.000 Yeah, Gohlson. 0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:13.640 They were load and we smacked him at home and 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:15.520 ye lose to Northwestern next week. 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:20.480 Yeah, we just always it fucking sucked, bro. I'll tell 0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:22.719 you what, losing the Big Ten championship the first year 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.600 we went to the Big Ten or second second. Then 0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:27.400 we go to the championship game and we lost what 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:31.360 was it seventy seventy something to like thirty nine. And 0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.279 I'm telling you, Bloss, I'm saying, like you couldn't throw 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.120 us a life jacket. Bro, We're out there just drowning, 0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:40.880 and there was like and they just kept running the 0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:41.799 fucking speed sweep. 0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:43.640 Dude, I can't wait to ask Ball about that. 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:48.480 I'm not touching. I'm not touching Ie. I'm gonna let 0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:49.520 you bro. 0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:52.160 Well, at the end of the day, we gotta make plays. 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:53.839 I know there was one tackle. Line Man's like we're 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:57.319 out in space obviously, Like there's arguments always on every side. 0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:58.920 Like as a player as a man, like we were 0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.239 very much a countable. Like that's the name of the 0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:02.799 game at the end of the day. Like if you're 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:04.960 not self accountable and you're blaming other shit on why 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.160 things happen, like you're gonna fail at some point in 0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.360 life anyway. So I sit there and watch it on 0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:11.200 my man, I wish I would have fucking played better 0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:13.480 and made certain plays and tackles. But if you put 0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.920 on from the coaching perspective, like there were we you know, 0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.719 we ain't make an adjustment when here's a fucking twenty 0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:19.640 two speed personnel. 0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.120 Why was another thing with Bo man, you know, like 0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:24.640 he didn't really want to change a lot of things, 0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.200 like schematically, you know, he was I'm gonna live and 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:29.560 die by this, and like once people start to get 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:31.440 a beat on you, you know you gotta adjust every 0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:32.360 now and then, right. 0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:35.640 Because there would be limited calls. But there's in Bo 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:39.600 in the defensive world, there's a lot of adjustments to formations. 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:43.719 It's honestly, again, there's there's both sides of the coin. 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:48.160 Because learning under Bo and his staff is the reason 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:49.719 I've been able to play in the league so long, 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.880 because I had guys like I had guys like Bo 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:56.560 coach Jampapucha's coach L's coach Eckler, even coach Carl for 0:52:56.600 --> 0:53:00.759 the love of God, but coach Marvin Sam that's a 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.640 fucking another little tale that could be a little TV 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:04.719 series on Netflix. 0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:05.440 Yeah. 0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:10.520 Yeah, But learning the defensive philosophy under the Plini regime 0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:12.320 is the reason I've been able to play in the 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:16.400 league so long, because they teach you so much about 0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:19.520 the game. They teach you not to They say, like, 0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:20.880 you know, you need to learn to be an offensive 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.400 coordinator coordinator out there, but once you learn the defense 0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:25.040 and you're able to learn what the offense is going 0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:28.120 to do to you based on formations, based on down 0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.640 and distance, based on everything else, like you are like 0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.759 another little coach out there playing against these guys because 0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.440 you know you understand what's coming because based on formations, 0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:38.239 you check something and you know they only run a 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:40.560 couple of players out of those formations. And just learning 0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:42.360 under that barre Rude, he would always come back to 0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:44.919 Nebraska shout out bart Rude, but he would always help 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.960 me on studying film and how to take notes and 0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:51.399 learning all of that is the reason I'm like all 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:53.279 the credit in the world goes to that because that's 0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:55.520 why I've been able to play so long, and we 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:57.640 talk about the other side, like we've talked about. 0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:02.960 The interesting inverse. I had a completely opposite experience I 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:05.799 with coach Beck. Tim Beck was officer. Of course you're 0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.680 in a different world on all bro getting to the league. Man, 0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:11.680 it was like, I consider myself a pretty intelligent guy, 0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:13.840 so I didn't struggle, you know, with the playbook, but 0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:17.080 it was like the learning curve was completely different, like 0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:20.799 the verbus, the play calls, understanding that I had to 0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:22.479 know what everyone else was doing. 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.280 I never had to do that. In Nebraska. 0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:27.880 Our play calls were like two words like red mango go, 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:31.080 that's a play in the league, you don't have that, 0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:34.080 you know, you said in the formation you got maybe 0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:37.440 a shift to emotion, and then you got to understand 0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:39.759 if a safety moves down in the box this way, 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:41.240 the protection may change. 0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:42.760 I didn't have to learn all that stuff. 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:46.320 So I feel like, honestly, going into year seven, it's crazy, 0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:49.680 but I'm just not really scratching the surface of what 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.480 I can be potentially in the league, from like a 0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:56.319 third down back, a receiving back step point because I 0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:58.040 understand the game a lot more. 0:54:58.320 --> 0:54:59.879 I was just out there playing with talent for. 0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:04.560 Shout out whistle Pig no free shoutouts and also all 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:07.680 free shoutouts because whistle Pig whiskey rye is the best 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:11.000 whiskey on the planet on the planet, and whiskey distillers 0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:14.280 that whistle Pig Whiskey have cut loose. 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He's different, you know what I'm saying. 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.240 But for the young guys, who are you know, playing 0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:33.680 against these collegiate teams, I would definitely say sit in 0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:38.400 with the quarterback a lot more. Understand blitz patterns, fronts, 0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:42.320 what different you know, alignments for dns can mean if 0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.560 a d N is kind of spiked inside, most likely 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.240 someone's blitzing outside because everything is gap you know, most 0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:48.400 defense or gap to sign. 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:49.640 You know, things like that. 0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:52.920 I didn't understand where you can see things before they happen, 0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:56.680 and then that's when your natural talent can really show, 0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:59.520 you know, because now you're getting the ball. You knew 0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:01.520 that that was gonna spike, and you knew it was 0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:04.640 gonna be an unaccounted for blitter on the outside, So 0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:05.880 you can be like, all right, I'm gonna make this 0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:07.800 move on this guy as supposed to get in the ball. 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:09.720 You're like, oh, ship, now I gotta make the move. 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.360 You know, without me knowing before that that was gonna 0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:15.160 happen off your tackle. 0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:18.840 Like that, you felt you didn't have a lot of 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:19.320 that stuff in. 0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:22.000 The No, no, not at all, not at all, you know. 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:24.000 So you just you just you knew what to do. 0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:29.800 And then that's what it was. Bro. Did they make 0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:30.680 sure it's fear Mirror? 0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:31.440 They actually so. 0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:36.800 Senior year homecoming against UH Illinois, they spelled my name 0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:39.600 on the field with the band Fear Mirror. It's pretty cool. 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:41.120 I don't know if you can find the footage. It 0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:43.720 was against Illinois. That was probably the craziest thing. My 0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:46.720 mom was crying in the stands because like she was like, Yo, 0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:49.320 this is my son that they're making this for. I 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:51.120 don't even look at him as fear of mirror, but 0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:53.160 like they love him here. And it was crazy because 0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:57.600 my mom, I'm from Birmingham, Alabama and leaving home that's 0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:00.560 like sixteen hours away. My mom was kept. She really 0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:02.360 didn't want me going to Nebraska. She didn't want me 0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:04.760 going far. But to see the impact and how that 0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:07.920 really changed my life made I guess it was one 0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:09.919 of those moments in motherhood. Was like, dang, I gotta 0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:12.160 trust my child more because he had the intuition that 0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:13.520 this was going to be the place for him. 0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.880 And four years later, that's spelling his name on the field. 0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:22.240 That's dope, man, dope, what made you come to Nebraska? Really? 0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:25.200 Coach Bo, Coach Bow, he was the only coach who 0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:28.200 really came to my high school for me. Everyone else 0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:31.160 will like their call, you know, they'll send some some mail. 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:33.960 But Coach Bow came and pulled me out of art class. 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:37.320 I'm never gonna forget. So like my second half of 0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:40.280 my first semester my senior year, I had pretty much 0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:42.280 gotten all my credits to graduate already. So I'm in 0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:45.480 like bullshit classes all the time. I'm in art and 0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:47.040 I get a call on my cell phone and my 0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:47.720 art teacher. 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:49.360 Was super cool. She let me pick up the phone 0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:50.480 and it was both Polini. 0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:52.240 He was like, hey, man, get a pass from class, 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:55.240 come down to the council's office and I had just 0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.680 seen you guys. I think a couple of weeks before, 0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.560 Taylor Martinez had a crazy game against Kansas State. He 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.280 scored like six sounds or something like that. So Nebraska 1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:07.160 was on my radars. I was like, and that's when 1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:09.720 y'all lost to Texas and the Big Ten the Big 1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:12.360 Twelve championship that year, So like you guys were a 1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:14.280 game or from the national championships. I was like, you 1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:16.760 know what, this is a good opportunity for me. Like 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:19.560 Alabama and Arburn they were lightly recruiting me. They really 1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:21.800 wanted me to play corner. I wanted to play running back. 1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:24.240 So coach both coming in and just telling me like, 1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:26.000 hey man, I'm not gonna tell you're going to be 1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:27.959 a starter, but I think you got a special talent. 1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:29.800 And that's the reason why I came here. We don't 1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:32.160 come to Alabama, you know, often, but when we do, 1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:34.520 we don't miss. I remember he said that we don't miss. 1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:36.200 I was like, all right, you're not gonna miss with 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:41.160 this one. And rest you know what it is that is? 1:00:41.320 --> 1:00:42.480 Uh Bo was the man bro. 1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:45.960 He really is the man he'll yank your a I'll 1:00:45.960 --> 1:00:48.440 tell you what you missed an art class in college. 1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:51.400 Yeah, yeah, Hey, that was that was one thing. 1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:53.560 That stuff that always kind of stuck with me because 1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:55.600 you know, he'd being like team meetings and talk about 1:00:55.640 --> 1:00:57.560 like I'm not gonna hold your hand and babysit you 1:00:57.600 --> 1:00:59.040 guys like you guys are growing in. 1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:01.000 You need we need to we need to teach you guys. 1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:03.280 But you guys need to learn to become grown men 1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:05.520 because you're not gonna do You're not going to be 1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:07.560 a some of the time guy. It's either all the 1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:09.440 time or your ass isn't playing on Saturday. He's like, 1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:11.480 you're not gonna pick and choose when the show up. 1:01:11.520 --> 1:01:14.640 It's not just come play Saturday, come play when we practice. 1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:16.560 You're either going to be the same person in classroom 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:17.760 or you're not going to be here. 1:01:17.880 --> 1:01:20.440 I think that's what I appreciated about him the most 1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:24.560 is the growth that I saw on all of my friends. 1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:28.240 So ironically, Josh Mitchell and Kenny Bell are both in 1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:31.040 that group chat some of my closest friends today. But 1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:33.240 when they came to Nebraska, when they first got there, 1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:36.760 they were shitthads. You know, they were immature, a little 1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:39.520 one titled you know a little bit, and didn't want 1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:40.760 to go to classroom and that stuff. 1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:43.360 Bowl Like you said, he didn't hold their hands. 1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:46.840 Like they grew as men because of Bowl, And I 1:01:46.880 --> 1:01:49.200 think that's something that maybe the fans who just see 1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:51.120 him on Saturday, they don't understand. 1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:53.560 He held people accountable. He really was. 1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:56.280 He was like a second father almost, and he wasn't 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:58.080 going to baby you. He was going to help you grow, 1:01:58.120 --> 1:01:59.880 which growth is never comfortable. 1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:03.760 Yeah, So focus on the process, compete every day. That's 1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:06.080 his biggest coote that he had hanging around everywhere. And 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:09.480 as cliche as it is, it's just like, unfortunately, it's 1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:10.080 the fucking. 1:02:09.880 --> 1:02:11.720 Truth you talk about. 1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:15.480 I want to go back to you speaking about Actually, 1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:16.760 I don't want to go to that pivot yet. I 1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:19.120 want to go to the development you've had throughout the 1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:22.120 years getting to this point you've spoken on, Like now, 1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:23.960 you you're at a place where you feel like you 1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:26.560 you understand third down, you understand schematics, you understand all 1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:29.040 this stuff in the football world. Talk about your development 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:31.760 from when you first came into the league to where 1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:37.120 you're at now, whether it's mentally spiritually, physically, football, whatever 1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:40.280 it is, because you're somebody I've always like respected and 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:41.800 admire from afar, Like, obviously you. 1:02:41.760 --> 1:02:42.520 Know that we're boys. 1:02:42.560 --> 1:02:47.440 We're you know, we're good friends, some would say, but 1:02:47.960 --> 1:02:49.960 for real, like you're my boy, and you're also somebody 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:52.600 like I always try to like tell because you never 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:55.280 like tell your friends that they're like mentors of yours. 1:02:55.320 --> 1:02:57.040 Right, It's always got to be seen as somebody. 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:59.360 Who's either where you want to be, older above you 1:02:59.440 --> 1:03:01.760 in some kind of But you've always been somebody that's 1:03:01.760 --> 1:03:04.000 like indirectly mentored me from afar because I keep my 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:07.120 eye on you and what you do because you're you always. 1:03:06.880 --> 1:03:09.760 Seem to be in a good place. Talk about that development. 1:03:10.000 --> 1:03:12.040 Shoot, it's funny you say I always seem like I'm 1:03:12.080 --> 1:03:14.800 in a good place because I'm not not always, you 1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:16.720 know what I mean, which everyone deals with stuff. Yeah, 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:18.800 but uh, shoot, I started with Detroit. Man. When I 1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:20.600 first got to Detroit, I had a really good rookie 1:03:20.640 --> 1:03:23.880 year and I put a lot of expectations on myself. 1:03:23.880 --> 1:03:27.720 But that city, it's tough with the expectations. So like 1:03:27.840 --> 1:03:31.800 getting hurt my second year, for the entire season, you're 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:33.960 drafting the second round right, taking around, taking around. So 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.760 first round rookiear was solid. Second year, I got hurt 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:40.240 pretty early, which Detroit is kind of a woe with me, 1:03:40.600 --> 1:03:43.360 you know town sometimes where like when they're up there up, 1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:45.400 when they're down there down, you know, which they've been 1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:46.680 down for a little while now. 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:49.520 So for me, that was a that was a really 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:50.920 that was a low point. 1:03:50.720 --> 1:03:52.720 For me, you know in my career where it was 1:03:53.040 --> 1:03:55.040 a lot of doubts started to you know, started to 1:03:55.080 --> 1:03:56.520 creep in for me, like is he going to be 1:03:56.560 --> 1:03:59.360 able to be the same player after this injury again? 1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:02.800 Can he stay healthy? Can he be every down back? 1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:05.360 And those were a lot of the things that I 1:04:05.400 --> 1:04:08.800 thought when I first got to Nebraska. So you know, 1:04:08.920 --> 1:04:13.440 as people, doubt is like always stronger than confidence for 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:16.080 some reason, you know, for some reason, we're so much 1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:19.840 quicker to like believe than negative as opposed to the positive. 1:04:20.200 --> 1:04:24.200 And for I'll say, between like twenty sixteen through twenty seventeen. 1:04:24.040 --> 1:04:25.320 I kind of become that person. 1:04:25.360 --> 1:04:28.560 I kind of lost my way of seeing the opportunity 1:04:28.600 --> 1:04:29.760 as opposed to the obstacle. 1:04:30.040 --> 1:04:30.240 You know. 1:04:30.840 --> 1:04:34.680 But I'll say the development started to happen when I 1:04:34.720 --> 1:04:38.120 started to realize who you are sometimes is who you 1:04:38.200 --> 1:04:41.120 are all the time. And I now'll plug bo again. 1:04:41.480 --> 1:04:44.120 It's about the process. I started to, you know, reach 1:04:44.160 --> 1:04:47.000 out to you about a lot of things with taking 1:04:47.000 --> 1:04:49.720 care of my physical body on a day to day basis. 1:04:50.080 --> 1:04:52.880 And when I started to take care of my physical 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:55.560 that started to help my mental It really did, because 1:04:55.600 --> 1:04:59.560 I was feeding myself, you know, feeding myself and so 1:04:59.600 --> 1:05:03.160 to speak a self loving manner, you know, doing things 1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:06.360 that made my body feel good made me mentally feel 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:08.880 good about going to work. I was more confident. I 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:12.760 felt better about myself, and I think everything in life 1:05:12.800 --> 1:05:15.440 happens for a reason. So when I transitioned from Detroit 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:18.360 to Minnesota, I think that was kind of that last 1:05:18.400 --> 1:05:23.200 like burden that was off my shoulders, of like attaching 1:05:23.280 --> 1:05:28.360 to an identity of being the best all the time. 1:05:28.720 --> 1:05:31.600 You know, I still consider myself right now one of 1:05:31.640 --> 1:05:35.520 the best athletes pounderful pound in the NFL. You know, 1:05:35.560 --> 1:05:39.560 an opportunity as it comes will show that. But for me, 1:05:40.040 --> 1:05:42.320 it was all about just getting back to the basics 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:44.880 of doing things like every day waking up at a 1:05:44.920 --> 1:05:47.760 certain time like I always no matter what night I 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:50.080 had before, I try to wake up at five fifteen 1:05:50.160 --> 1:05:52.560 every morning, just because you get to wake up with 1:05:52.600 --> 1:05:54.920 the sun, you get to mature with the day, and 1:05:54.960 --> 1:05:56.840 you get more out of the day. I try to 1:05:56.840 --> 1:06:00.400 make up my bed every single day because both both 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:03.120 said it, bro it's the little things to process, and 1:06:03.520 --> 1:06:06.840 it's not about like achieving the big things one time. 1:06:07.000 --> 1:06:09.880 It's about achieving those little things over time and time again, 1:06:09.960 --> 1:06:11.960 until you look back and you're like, holy crap, I 1:06:12.040 --> 1:06:16.000 built a monumental legacy for myself just because I was 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:18.680 keen and I was focused on the little things. 1:06:18.960 --> 1:06:20.960 So I think a lot of my development. 1:06:20.560 --> 1:06:25.080 Spiritually, physically, and mentally all come from just like enjoying 1:06:25.120 --> 1:06:29.200 the little subtle things in life, like going out in nature, 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:31.200 you know what I'm saying, Just going out in nature, 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:34.560 or just moving my body first thing in the morning, 1:06:34.600 --> 1:06:36.400 after I you know, make up my bed, brush my 1:06:36.440 --> 1:06:39.200 teeth and everything, moving my body, being thankful that I 1:06:39.240 --> 1:06:41.320 can actually move my body, because I got a lot 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:44.200 of friends who had pretty severe injuries they can't even 1:06:44.200 --> 1:06:47.120 move the same anymore, you know. And just giving back 1:06:47.160 --> 1:06:51.080 to those simple essences of life have really like allowed 1:06:51.120 --> 1:06:52.600 me to stay in the league as long as I 1:06:52.640 --> 1:06:55.320 can and I think I'm actually I'm at, you know, 1:06:56.120 --> 1:06:57.080 an ascension point. 1:06:57.160 --> 1:06:57.440 Really. 1:06:57.520 --> 1:06:59.200 You know, I'm going to the last year my deal 1:06:59.560 --> 1:07:02.880 with Soda and just seeing how my role has changed 1:07:02.880 --> 1:07:05.000 with them, where I'm sure in the field with probably 1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:07.600 other than Derrick Henry, the best back in the league. 1:07:07.800 --> 1:07:10.880 You know what I'm saying, Dalavin Cook. So that's also 1:07:12.280 --> 1:07:14.760 to me, it's kind of it's interesting. I'm back in 1:07:14.800 --> 1:07:16.760 the same place that I was when I first got 1:07:16.800 --> 1:07:19.560 to Nebraska. In my opinion, why when I got there, 1:07:19.960 --> 1:07:22.840 Rex Burke was there, one of the best back in 1:07:22.840 --> 1:07:24.680 the college football. When I first got there, I knew 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:25.880 I would have to sit. I knew I have to 1:07:25.880 --> 1:07:27.920 be patient, and I had to find my way. I 1:07:27.920 --> 1:07:29.760 had to find my way on special teams. I was 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:33.040 a return guy, you know. When I got to college, 1:07:33.080 --> 1:07:34.800 I was a first of All American just because of 1:07:34.840 --> 1:07:38.320 returning return the ball. And then in the NFL, I 1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:40.880 was a starter all four years in Detroit. Get to Minnesota, 1:07:40.920 --> 1:07:43.040 I'm not the start anymore. I'm back to that point 1:07:43.120 --> 1:07:45.640 of like re humbling yourself. But I don't really look 1:07:45.680 --> 1:07:47.840 at it as like humbling yourself. It's like just focusing 1:07:47.920 --> 1:07:51.640 back on the little things, because timing is everything. But 1:07:52.080 --> 1:07:54.640 timing is always happening, you know what I mean, Like 1:07:54.880 --> 1:07:58.320 your moment is always happening. It's just being ready and 1:07:58.400 --> 1:08:01.000 being aligned with that. And to do that, you have 1:08:01.120 --> 1:08:03.640 to be on the little things because it'll go past 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:05.720 you and you won't even realize it when past you. 1:08:06.000 --> 1:08:09.000 If you're bullshitting, if you're trying to cut corners, if 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:12.480 you're making excuses, if you're kind of that, woe with me, Like, man, 1:08:12.640 --> 1:08:14.760 they should be doing this more for me, or this 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:18.400 should be happening for me. Just expectations. It's like, don't expect, 1:08:18.640 --> 1:08:22.439 just do. And when you're doing, and when the opportunity comes, 1:08:22.560 --> 1:08:24.640 it's going to be so seamless that it's like, oh 1:08:24.720 --> 1:08:27.479 I did that. I created something for my life and 1:08:27.520 --> 1:08:29.639 it was effortless. I didn't have to pull the moon 1:08:29.720 --> 1:08:32.080 to Earth. I just had to continue to fall back 1:08:32.080 --> 1:08:34.280 on my training, you know what I mean, Like you know, 1:08:34.400 --> 1:08:36.240 when what was that group that came in and they 1:08:36.360 --> 1:08:37.680 like threw us in. 1:08:37.680 --> 1:08:39.160 A pool program the program. 1:08:39.520 --> 1:08:42.679 So we did this thing in Nebraska one summer where 1:08:42.720 --> 1:08:44.760 these groups they called the program, they come in. They're 1:08:44.800 --> 1:08:48.360 like military guys, Navy seals actually I believe, and they're 1:08:48.360 --> 1:08:51.320 pretty much just talking about teamwork and bonding. And one 1:08:51.360 --> 1:08:53.759 thing that they always preached was never rise to the occasion, 1:08:53.840 --> 1:08:57.280 just fall back on your you know your training, right, 1:08:57.520 --> 1:09:00.320 And I can remember those times in Detroit that the 1:09:00.360 --> 1:09:02.400 pressure felt like I had to rise to the occasion, 1:09:02.479 --> 1:09:04.920 rise to the occasion as opposed to just falling back 1:09:04.960 --> 1:09:07.200 on what I knew. And now I'm in a place, 1:09:07.400 --> 1:09:09.240 you know, I've matured over the years where it's like 1:09:09.800 --> 1:09:12.559 my heart rate doesn't ever jump anymore because I'm like, man, 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:16.160 I do this ship every day. My work away from 1:09:16.200 --> 1:09:18.120 the facility is way harder than the work that you 1:09:18.160 --> 1:09:18.479 do in. 1:09:18.439 --> 1:09:21.800 The facility, in my opinion. So it was like, I'm 1:09:21.800 --> 1:09:22.840 in a really good place with that. 1:09:22.920 --> 1:09:23.080 Now. 1:09:23.640 --> 1:09:25.120 Hey, that fired me up. 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:31.720 That's a good right there in a crowd, you might 1:09:31.720 --> 1:09:33.000 have motivated the boys back there. 1:09:33.600 --> 1:09:35.280 We're scared to hear this ship. 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:37.000 Since that yo were trained by the Navy Seals. Is 1:09:37.040 --> 1:09:37.479 that correct? 1:09:37.520 --> 1:09:39.799 Yeah, it's called Yeah, it's called the program. The program 1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:41.880 if you type it in, is that it? 1:09:42.880 --> 1:09:43.080 Oh? 1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:46.559 Bro, I'm telling you, man, this is they've developed. Yeah, 1:09:46.680 --> 1:09:49.080 they're they're going hard. Now that they had one session 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:51.640 where we had to wear all of our sweats and 1:09:51.760 --> 1:09:52.960 tread water in that pool. 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:55.320 You remember that ship. Yeah, and whether you could swim 1:09:55.439 --> 1:09:57.400 or not, Bro, you couldn't hang on to the side, so. 1:09:58.880 --> 1:09:59.600 Irresponsible. 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:04.240 It's possible because Brayland hurt couldn't swim, right, Blan couldn't swim, 1:10:04.479 --> 1:10:06.000 And if you could swim, you had to like, you know, 1:10:06.800 --> 1:10:08.040 help his teammates. 1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:09.320 So it's like they did on purpose. 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:12.120 So if you couldn't swim, now you got to rely 1:10:12.200 --> 1:10:14.160 on that person on the team who was the stronger 1:10:14.240 --> 1:10:16.719 swimmer to maybe hold you up. I just remember Camera 1:10:16.760 --> 1:10:19.920 Meredith just like chilling. Know, he's an Orange County kid, 1:10:20.000 --> 1:10:22.519 hunting beast kids, just chilling floating in the middle of 1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:24.400 the poor everyone else is like drowning. 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:26.800 And yeah, bro, that ship was fucking hard and this 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:29.280 is a this is like three in the morning. We 1:10:29.320 --> 1:10:32.320 had to do a whole evening on the field, like 1:10:32.320 --> 1:10:34.160 in the turf field, like doing logs and ship like 1:10:34.200 --> 1:10:36.120 over like doing a lot of team stuff because it 1:10:36.360 --> 1:10:38.760 gives a coach's feedback, like who leaders are, who people 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:41.320 are gonna separate from the pack, people who are good, 1:10:41.560 --> 1:10:43.760 you know, just teammates. Because the whole ordeal is that 1:10:43.880 --> 1:10:45.680 it doesn't matter if you're a leader somebody who has 1:10:45.720 --> 1:10:47.720 a title or not, Like we're all leaders in our 1:10:47.720 --> 1:10:50.200 own regards, whether you're a teammate who's just helping one 1:10:50.200 --> 1:10:52.760 other teammate. But uh, they tell you the perfect push 1:10:52.800 --> 1:10:54.280 up that we had to do every day, all the 1:10:54.320 --> 1:10:57.720 fucking time. But bro, so you had to do this 1:10:57.760 --> 1:11:00.439 whole evening, right. We probably left around maybe PM and 1:11:00.520 --> 1:11:03.120 nine pm, and then we had to be at the 1:11:03.240 --> 1:11:06.559 swimming facility at three am in the morning, and you'd 1:11:06.560 --> 1:11:08.280 have to wear all these sweats or in the pool 1:11:08.320 --> 1:11:10.439 like you're doing last But then you're in the deep 1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:13.479 end and you're treading water, right and you're helping your 1:11:13.479 --> 1:11:15.280 teammates stay up. But at one point you got to 1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:18.440 change your sweats and give it to your partner. 1:11:18.120 --> 1:11:19.519 While you're in the water trading water. 1:11:19.680 --> 1:11:23.320 Yeah so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:11:23.320 --> 1:11:25.680 That shit was fucking brutal. What were we going on 1:11:25.720 --> 1:11:26.880 with that? Fall back? 1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:28.400 Oh yeah, fall back in your training? 1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:30.679 Man, So just a quote of falling back on your training, 1:11:31.120 --> 1:11:33.599 I think they basically become your habits. You're literally talking 1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:35.519 about all these old things the book you guys put 1:11:35.520 --> 1:11:37.320 me on in the group chat atomic habits. 1:11:37.600 --> 1:11:38.400 Shout out j Mitch. 1:11:38.439 --> 1:11:40.800 I want to say him or Quincy or somebody might 1:11:40.840 --> 1:11:43.719 have posted that one of those two. But like reading 1:11:43.760 --> 1:11:46.120 that book too is like that's a quote from there, 1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:48.519 like you ultimately become, you become what your habits are, 1:11:48.600 --> 1:11:50.120 all these little things that we talk about. 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:51.040 Whatever quote you want. 1:11:51.040 --> 1:11:54.559 If I can, just going back to doubt. Doubt is 1:11:54.600 --> 1:11:57.760 like the thief of joy. It really is, because when 1:11:57.800 --> 1:11:59.960 you start to doubt yourself more, you start to believe 1:12:00.080 --> 1:12:03.439 those doubts. You get afraid to even do the little things. 1:12:03.800 --> 1:12:06.000 I got to that point where like I was so 1:12:06.160 --> 1:12:08.120 doubtful after that my four. 1:12:07.800 --> 1:12:09.080 That's what I want to get in. That's what I 1:12:09.080 --> 1:12:09.679 wanted to ask. 1:12:09.720 --> 1:12:11.559 And you're doing that whole thing, Like was it a 1:12:11.600 --> 1:12:14.720 certain moment in timeframe obviously with your injury to where 1:12:14.720 --> 1:12:18.559 it it made you see like, yo, I'm weak minded 1:12:18.640 --> 1:12:18.920 right now? 1:12:18.920 --> 1:12:19.960 Like what am I doing? Yeah? 1:12:20.000 --> 1:12:24.080 Weak minded? Like I started to after my foot injury. 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:27.320 So I told my little Frank. So that's like brutal too, bro, 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:29.840 It's like the acl of your foot. It's just terrible. 1:12:29.840 --> 1:12:31.720 It's terrible injury to come back from. I still got 1:12:31.720 --> 1:12:35.519 screwed my foot from her now. But I started to 1:12:35.560 --> 1:12:38.400 just tell myself, like, you won't be the same. You 1:12:38.439 --> 1:12:40.200 won't be the same. You know, you won't be able 1:12:40.200 --> 1:12:41.559 to cut on your left foot as much as you 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:45.799 used to, you know, and from that, you stop working 1:12:45.920 --> 1:12:48.280 the way that you did when you didn't have that injury. 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:52.000 Because you're starting to incept yourself. You start to accept 1:12:52.000 --> 1:12:56.080 the idea that you aren't the same. So subconsciously your 1:12:56.160 --> 1:13:00.639 body starts to, you know, pretty much agree with that. 1:13:00.720 --> 1:13:03.360 So physically you don't even want to move, you don't 1:13:03.360 --> 1:13:08.639 want to work. You know it's not gonna get any better. 1:13:08.680 --> 1:13:11.120 So I saw myself starting to go down that path, 1:13:11.640 --> 1:13:14.519 which is where I feel like my third year in 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:16.960 the league, it was a solid year, but we were 1:13:16.960 --> 1:13:19.599 going through a coaching you know, transition. So anytime you're 1:13:19.600 --> 1:13:21.479 going through a transition, you got to make a good impression. 1:13:21.720 --> 1:13:23.200 My third year was very average. 1:13:23.320 --> 1:13:24.120 It's very average year. 1:13:24.160 --> 1:13:25.920 I think I worked for like seven hundred yards or 1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:27.800 something like that, but you know. 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:29.479 Which isn't bad. 1:13:29.520 --> 1:13:32.040 But I saw myself as a thousand yard back for sure, 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:34.720 you know. But I can really remember, just like the 1:13:34.760 --> 1:13:37.599 off season before that year, I was scared to really 1:13:37.680 --> 1:13:40.479 push myself because I was still coming off of the injury, 1:13:40.880 --> 1:13:42.759 and it was really the doubt. 1:13:42.840 --> 1:13:44.840 It was what I had told myself I was fine. 1:13:45.360 --> 1:13:48.040 Now I feel way more elusive than I ever have 1:13:48.200 --> 1:13:50.680 in my whole career after a surgery. You know what 1:13:50.720 --> 1:13:53.880 I'm saying, that's just because my self speech and doing 1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:54.840 the little things every day. 1:13:54.920 --> 1:13:56.480 It's got to be back to that point. 1:13:56.640 --> 1:13:59.280 And just for anyone who's really watching, man like, don't 1:13:59.680 --> 1:14:02.840 I lie all the doubt to steal your joy, because 1:14:02.920 --> 1:14:05.160 it'll start to seep in your life, and who you 1:14:05.240 --> 1:14:07.800 are sometimes is who you are all the time, and 1:14:07.880 --> 1:14:09.880 you may think this is just one area of my 1:14:09.920 --> 1:14:13.080 life that I'm struggling in it'll start to bleed over start. 1:14:13.960 --> 1:14:16.080 I saw it in my relationship lives where I wasn't 1:14:16.080 --> 1:14:18.800 doing the little things, I wasn't communicating well, went through 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:20.760 a lot of you know, tough breakups because of that. 1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:23.160 I saw it in my my my family life. 1:14:23.000 --> 1:14:26.120 Where I wasn't staying in communication with them as much. 1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:29.000 So you quit, you're quickly triggered. 1:14:29.120 --> 1:14:31.479 Yeah, I would. 1:14:31.520 --> 1:14:34.400 I would just kind of run from situations. Anything that 1:14:34.479 --> 1:14:36.479 was a little painful, I would run from. It's the 1:14:36.520 --> 1:14:38.280 same thing with my foot anytime I was trying to 1:14:38.280 --> 1:14:39.920 cut and it hurt a little bit, I'm like, I 1:14:39.960 --> 1:14:41.720 don't want to do that anymore. So that's when I 1:14:41.720 --> 1:14:44.160 start to realize, like, yo, who you are sometimes is 1:14:44.200 --> 1:14:46.320 who you are all the time, and you kind of 1:14:46.320 --> 1:14:48.960 got to run towards that fear. You gotta run towards that, 1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:50.960 you know, that doubt in the sense because on the 1:14:51.000 --> 1:14:52.960 other side of that, a lot of time it's joy 1:14:53.000 --> 1:14:54.480 and it's a lot of like prosperity. 1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:58.479 Right, even even comparing to like looking you know, the 1:14:58.520 --> 1:15:00.640 thing in like ball, like in words too, is like 1:15:00.680 --> 1:15:02.840 never look at another man's wallet, like when somebody gets 1:15:02.840 --> 1:15:05.080 signed and you're like, oh, you know, you're you're getting 1:15:05.080 --> 1:15:06.800 out of the framework of what you're seeing in front 1:15:06.800 --> 1:15:09.519 of you. 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You you talked about you feel 1:16:17.479 --> 1:16:20.640 a lot more elusive. Is there is there some like 1:16:20.720 --> 1:16:24.040 body work or training that you've adapted over the years 1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:26.559 that's that's allowed you to become this? 1:16:26.840 --> 1:16:27.080 Yeah? 1:16:27.160 --> 1:16:30.800 I gotta pay homage to foot Doctor Sports. So foot 1:16:30.840 --> 1:16:35.880 Doctor Sports is a sports training enterprise based out of Miami. 1:16:35.960 --> 1:16:38.760 But they they have foot doctors just passed all around 1:16:38.800 --> 1:16:39.200 the country. 1:16:39.240 --> 1:16:41.920 Now, is there one in Nashville? I don't know. 1:16:41.960 --> 1:16:43.680 If it's a foot doctor in Nashville, he might it 1:16:43.760 --> 1:16:47.240 might be one. So the owner's name is Seth Seth Mentor, 1:16:47.720 --> 1:16:49.680 and pretty much what they do is they connect you 1:16:49.760 --> 1:16:53.120 to you by doing a lot more barefoot training. You know, 1:16:53.160 --> 1:16:55.720 you see a lot of people doing barefoot training. I 1:16:55.720 --> 1:16:59.479 would advocate that the foot doctors are different than everyone else. 1:16:59.520 --> 1:17:01.360 I don't want to give their whole little spiel, you 1:17:01.400 --> 1:17:03.439 know what exactly what they do on camera, I'll let 1:17:03.479 --> 1:17:06.320 them tell it better than what I can. But working 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:09.160 with those guys and working with my personal trainer now 1:17:09.520 --> 1:17:12.960 foot doctor for Doctor Moe, had really allowed me to 1:17:13.040 --> 1:17:15.839 understand that the body is all a spiral. 1:17:16.680 --> 1:17:19.400 Everything is about It's like a Pulley Levy system. Everything. 1:17:20.120 --> 1:17:23.800 It's more about absorbing force as opposed to delivering force. 1:17:24.240 --> 1:17:26.080 You know, if you look at a rubber band you throw, 1:17:26.240 --> 1:17:29.200 or like a trampoline you jump on a trampoline, the 1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:31.639 force you give down is going to rebound and give 1:17:31.680 --> 1:17:32.559 a much greater force. 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:34.080 Your body is the same way. 1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:37.000 Your ankles a tramveline system, your knees are trampoline system, 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:40.960 your hips are too. And really changing that understanding of 1:17:41.000 --> 1:17:44.440 the body change my training moving forward. Because of Nebraska, 1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:49.360 I was a big, big lifter. All we talked about 1:17:49.400 --> 1:17:50.479 was it be you? 1:17:50.600 --> 1:17:56.240 Who is me? I know sometimes. 1:17:57.880 --> 1:18:02.040 The majority of the time like Bard Squad like four 1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:06.960 nine fifteen, you remember that, like crazy, like crazy waight bro, 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:10.960 which it's you get stronger by forcing your body under 1:18:11.040 --> 1:18:12.040 tension over time. 1:18:12.439 --> 1:18:15.560 But what that really does is that reinforces. 1:18:15.560 --> 1:18:20.599 A force absorption subconscience that's not healthy, which is why 1:18:20.600 --> 1:18:23.040 you see a lot of guys have non contact knee injuries. 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:26.040 Because if you think you have force on your shoulders, 1:18:26.680 --> 1:18:28.960 force at the ground, that's obviously a given. 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:30.920 Gravity is a given. That's physics. 1:18:31.360 --> 1:18:34.120 Your body is saying when you have forced out at 1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:36.760 the top and force at the bottom, to resist as 1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:39.439 opposed to if I'm having forced from the top to 1:18:39.600 --> 1:18:42.960 sink into it and redistribute. It's telling all of your 1:18:43.320 --> 1:18:47.200 your joints to resist when you know when forces applicat 1:18:47.400 --> 1:18:50.200 applicated to you. Right, So a lot of guys, when 1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:52.040 you see them running, they cut and they tear. The 1:18:52.080 --> 1:18:56.280 ACL's because your body has been trained to resist the ground, 1:18:56.720 --> 1:18:59.640 not use it, not to absorb it. And when I 1:18:59.640 --> 1:19:01.320 start to learn that, I was like, I can keep 1:19:01.360 --> 1:19:04.160 myself healthier by doing more functional training. 1:19:04.439 --> 1:19:05.719 Things that helped me. 1:19:05.720 --> 1:19:08.760 Spring out of my cut as opposed to stump out 1:19:08.800 --> 1:19:09.920 of my you know, out of my cut. 1:19:09.920 --> 1:19:12.120 You see some guys they stump through drills. 1:19:12.160 --> 1:19:13.840 You see them, and it looks good on camera, that's 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:15.840 stumping and stuff, But it's like you do that shit 1:19:15.880 --> 1:19:18.080 in a game while someone's hitting you, and your knee 1:19:18.160 --> 1:19:21.040 is trying to resist someone hitting you from up here, 1:19:21.080 --> 1:19:22.960 and then your feet are on the ground, especially with 1:19:23.040 --> 1:19:25.920 artificial turf nowadays, how grabby that stuff is. That's why 1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:28.280 you see a lot of these injuries, knee injuries. And 1:19:28.479 --> 1:19:31.840 I think that really changed my whole outlook on how 1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:35.280 you should train and what's actually necessary for football players, 1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:38.120 which has really made me a lot more elusive in 1:19:38.160 --> 1:19:41.560 my opinion now. Like honestly, I consider myself more of 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:43.800 a receiver than I even do a running back. 1:19:43.840 --> 1:19:44.040 Now. 1:19:44.240 --> 1:19:46.519 You know, I think I probably can run every route 1:19:46.520 --> 1:19:48.519 on the route tree. But that couldn't be said. Back 1:19:48.520 --> 1:19:50.800 in Nebraska. I was a lot more stiff. I was 1:19:50.840 --> 1:19:52.400 a lot more. 1:19:54.640 --> 1:19:55.160 You know what I mean. 1:19:55.200 --> 1:19:57.760 But like over time, like me being older as well, 1:19:57.800 --> 1:20:01.040 like I've benefited greatly a lot more from like a said, training, yeah, 1:20:01.120 --> 1:20:04.600 isometrics and things like that, just because of how the joints. 1:20:04.240 --> 1:20:05.200 Feel over time. 1:20:06.560 --> 1:20:10.680 It's crazy too, like thinking back in the college, like 1:20:10.680 --> 1:20:12.040 all this stuff we had to do, and even even 1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:15.360 high school, even like my dad always had me on stuff, uh, 1:20:15.360 --> 1:20:19.720 training programs and stuff in high school as well, all stuff. Yeah, yeah, 1:20:19.760 --> 1:20:22.519 not he hit me on that, that creating amount of hydrate. 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:24.439 Baby, I got some funny stories about will. 1:20:24.960 --> 1:20:27.479 What are you talking about Vegas? 1:20:27.960 --> 1:20:35.679 Oh, BBC one fifty seven, So then yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:20:35.680 --> 1:20:38.920 so BBC one fifty seven. It is a body protective compound. 1:20:38.920 --> 1:20:40.680 It's not on a band substance list or anything like that. 1:20:40.720 --> 1:20:44.000 I got it from Ben Greenfield and it helps, like, uh, 1:20:44.120 --> 1:20:44.920 it helps. 1:20:45.880 --> 1:20:47.160 What's the word I'm looking for. 1:20:47.640 --> 1:20:52.640 Like rea, Yeah, like regenerate like injuries, like ten ligaments 1:20:52.680 --> 1:20:54.000 like stuff with injuries. 1:20:54.040 --> 1:20:58.120 You'd put it intramuscular right into the injury. And it's 1:20:58.160 --> 1:20:59.559 not a fucking band substance. 1:21:00.040 --> 1:21:03.360 But we're in Vegas and emirs always like it's like, yeah, 1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:06.000 you can, you can take the table, can tell you ahead, 1:21:06.000 --> 1:21:06.320 you can go. 1:21:06.400 --> 1:21:08.360 The st So we're in Vegas. I forgot why we 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:08.800 were even there. 1:21:08.920 --> 1:21:12.280 Was it the nfl P, A nfl P A, nfl 1:21:12.320 --> 1:21:15.840 PA meetings they had in Vegas like, what the fuck? Anyways, 1:21:16.360 --> 1:21:18.760 I'm always like the team there now. I guess there's 1:21:18.800 --> 1:21:21.479 a team there now. But Will I think he had 1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:23.040 his door cracked because I thought him I was gonna 1:21:23.040 --> 1:21:23.760 come up to his room. 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:28.520 I walk in, I see Will bear ass out needle. 1:21:28.479 --> 1:21:30.439 Just shoot us and shit in his ass, and I'm 1:21:30.520 --> 1:21:32.320 just like, well, what the fuck is going on? 1:21:32.640 --> 1:21:34.560 I was like, that's how you're doing it. 1:21:34.680 --> 1:21:37.120 Huh, that's how you're doing it, because at this time 1:21:37.160 --> 1:21:39.240 he hadn't told me this is bp C one. 1:21:39.439 --> 1:21:41.280 I told you to come up and ship to check out, 1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:42.639 Like I'd be like, bro. 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:43.320 It looks sketchy. 1:21:43.800 --> 1:21:45.640 Shit, look because I'm putting you on I think I 1:21:45.640 --> 1:21:47.880 was putting you on red light like light there being 1:21:48.360 --> 1:21:51.920 I had packed all the ship, dude, yeah, because I 1:21:51.960 --> 1:21:54.479 had like an upper hamstring injury, and here comes in 1:21:54.520 --> 1:21:56.320 and I'm like, hey, like this is it. It does 1:21:56.400 --> 1:21:59.360 look sketchy as fuck, dude, like needles, I'm like injecting 1:21:59.400 --> 1:22:02.280 the ship like right into the top part of my hamstring. 1:22:02.800 --> 1:22:06.280 But yeah, I remember. I remember when I was first 1:22:06.320 --> 1:22:08.240 like learning about it. I was sketched out by it, 1:22:09.160 --> 1:22:11.280 like singing, like putting it together and everything, and I 1:22:11.280 --> 1:22:12.839 remember the drug test guy because. 1:22:12.640 --> 1:22:14.960 I'm meth I remember I thought he was doing math. 1:22:15.040 --> 1:22:17.120 I remember the drug test guy coming to my house 1:22:17.160 --> 1:22:19.400 and being like, hey can you get can you get 1:22:19.400 --> 1:22:19.840 pop for this? 1:22:19.960 --> 1:22:21.360 Like is this on a band substice list? 1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:23.519 And like we're looking at stuff and again confirm that 1:22:23.560 --> 1:22:25.479 it's not because I'm listening to it from like a 1:22:25.560 --> 1:22:28.280 Rogan podcast from Ben Greenfield, like all this stuff that 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:31.720 I've learned, Like I was very the way I'm obsessive 1:22:31.760 --> 1:22:33.800 over bust with the boys and like all this type 1:22:33.840 --> 1:22:35.720 of shit now is the way I was like with 1:22:35.800 --> 1:22:39.920 like performance recovery, all those mass of sauna ice, fucking 1:22:40.320 --> 1:22:43.479 red light, all that shit. And so I get on 1:22:43.479 --> 1:22:46.040 this BBC and so I'm like, well, I guess if 1:22:46.040 --> 1:22:47.840 I get pops, I'll know exactly what it comes from, 1:22:47.840 --> 1:22:49.200 because I just I sat there. I was like, I 1:22:49.240 --> 1:22:51.040 injected it right before you came over, so I'll know 1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:53.360 if it's from that. Because people would always ask like, hey, 1:22:53.400 --> 1:22:55.800 what if you got like and I'm just thinking to myself, well, 1:22:55.840 --> 1:22:57.559 I should know what it comes from because I'm always 1:22:57.560 --> 1:22:59.960 like very weary of like what I'm putting in them 1:23:00.040 --> 1:23:02.479 my body because I'm not like trying to fucking you know, 1:23:02.600 --> 1:23:05.840 put that batshit in there. But like I would be like, well, 1:23:05.960 --> 1:23:07.880 hands up, I know exactly where it comes from, and 1:23:07.920 --> 1:23:09.720 explain it and do this and that. That's why I 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:11.840 feel like I'm able to talk about it. When you 1:23:11.840 --> 1:23:13.960 first bring it up. I'm sitting here, I'm like, should 1:23:13.960 --> 1:23:16.519 I be tense about talking about this? But I mean, 1:23:17.040 --> 1:23:20.240 it is what it is. It's not on the band. Yeah, 1:23:20.280 --> 1:23:23.120 and if if it did happen, like we would fucking know. 1:23:23.160 --> 1:23:26.160 Look look at the old boy right there, just putting 1:23:26.200 --> 1:23:29.200 it into his Uh. You guys aren't a lot like YouTube, doesn't. 1:23:29.360 --> 1:23:35.920 I mean, they're doing it right now. It sounds sketchy 1:23:35.960 --> 1:23:37.760 as fucked the way I'm talking because I'm sitting here. 1:23:37.800 --> 1:23:40.479 Sometimes at times, glad it wasn't math. I was like, oh, ship, 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:43.240 we're doing math. That's what you want to You declined. 1:23:43.760 --> 1:23:46.200 You declined it, though I'm not. I wasn't that long, 1:23:46.520 --> 1:23:48.760 did I didn'tcline? He's like, oh, I think I'm good. 1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:50.559 I was like, bro, I promise you, it's all good. 1:23:51.240 --> 1:23:52.599 I'm just gonna drink some coconut water. 1:23:52.680 --> 1:23:56.800 I'm good, Hey, Cometo. This is why I draw the 1:23:56.800 --> 1:23:58.200 line like I'm not. 1:23:58.160 --> 1:24:00.160 Going to go this far in Vegas too, know what 1:24:00.160 --> 1:24:01.799 I'm saying, Like, think about this wearing Vegas. 1:24:01.800 --> 1:24:03.240 It's the setting that really did it for me. 1:24:03.360 --> 1:24:05.599 And we were like in any other like maybe locker 1:24:05.640 --> 1:24:07.880 room or just someone's house. I was like, okay, I 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:10.479 trust Compto, but it looked like meth. It looked like 1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:13.120 some kind of crystal wearing Vegas. He's like, you know, 1:24:13.160 --> 1:24:14.920 it's just do it one time. You know what in 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:15.920 Vegas stays in Vegas. 1:24:16.000 --> 1:24:17.960 Yeah, that is funny as fun, dude. 1:24:18.120 --> 1:24:19.240 That was actually epic night. 1:24:19.880 --> 1:24:21.600 That was fun. We had a good time. No, that 1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:25.160 was uh, that was we're talking nfl p A. That 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:30.400 was an epic night nfl p A. Yeah, Quincy was 1:24:30.400 --> 1:24:32.640 there too, you remember, I'll take your word for it. 1:24:33.920 --> 1:24:35.840 We can talk about it after. I kind of don't 1:24:35.840 --> 1:24:36.240 remember that. 1:24:36.479 --> 1:24:40.000 Sure. I thought the nfl p A was more more 1:24:40.080 --> 1:24:42.559 chill than obviously when the island there was still for you. 1:24:43.920 --> 1:24:54.040 Okay, all right there, ye show my wedding ring. You're 1:24:54.040 --> 1:24:56.519 creative outside of ball. I want to dive into that. 1:24:56.560 --> 1:24:58.800 You're actually wearing a hat. Is that is that the hat? 1:24:58.880 --> 1:24:59.080 Yeah? 1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:00.000 This this one our hats. 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:01.799 This is one I had, So I have a brand 1:25:01.880 --> 1:25:05.519 slash production company called Creative House, and pretty much what 1:25:05.560 --> 1:25:08.559 we do from a social media standpoint is we just 1:25:09.120 --> 1:25:11.479 encourage other creatives to step into their life. 1:25:11.760 --> 1:25:14.479 Everyone's a creative. It's all about how you look at something. 1:25:14.560 --> 1:25:17.320 You know, one thing may look like something from somebody else. 1:25:17.600 --> 1:25:19.160 You turn it this way, they may see a whole 1:25:19.160 --> 1:25:19.919 different perspective. 1:25:20.000 --> 1:25:22.280 We just want people to see life that way, see 1:25:22.320 --> 1:25:25.120 racial issues that way, see policies that way, you know, 1:25:25.160 --> 1:25:27.639 the whole nine yards. Just be more creative with your thought, 1:25:27.800 --> 1:25:30.920 you know, because it just encourages people to not be 1:25:31.160 --> 1:25:34.200 as down in the dumps or pessimistic about life because 1:25:34.560 --> 1:25:36.439 shit's been tough for the last couple of years, you know, 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:39.680 a pandemic, all these other things going on. We just 1:25:39.680 --> 1:25:42.680 want to encourage people. From a production standpoint, we do 1:25:42.720 --> 1:25:44.280 a lot of things with Lulu Limit a lot of 1:25:44.280 --> 1:25:47.320 companies up in Minneapolis, so we're based out of Minneapolis, 1:25:47.360 --> 1:25:51.559 and we also do events spacing, so we rent out 1:25:51.560 --> 1:25:54.679 our physical space in Minneapolis to other entrepreneurs and creatives 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:57.719 who are trying to get their businesses off the ground. 1:25:57.920 --> 1:26:01.000 So we're all about the little people. So that's pretty 1:26:01.080 --> 1:26:02.160 much what got you into that? 1:26:03.280 --> 1:26:04.879 Really? My buddy Uzama. 1:26:04.960 --> 1:26:07.400 So, my buddy Zama, he has a company called Creative 1:26:07.400 --> 1:26:10.040 Copilot up in Minneapolis. It's like a parent company where 1:26:10.080 --> 1:26:13.680 he teaches other businesses how to make content. And I 1:26:13.720 --> 1:26:15.479 was like, you know what, I think this would be 1:26:16.040 --> 1:26:18.559 serve a greater purpose if we kind of like expand 1:26:18.600 --> 1:26:22.200 this idea and help other people who just need space 1:26:22.720 --> 1:26:24.600 to facilitate their business. 1:26:24.360 --> 1:26:24.559 You know. 1:26:25.160 --> 1:26:27.479 And we, you know, we came together. 1:26:27.560 --> 1:26:30.000 We started making apparel at first, and then from there 1:26:30.040 --> 1:26:31.759 we're just like, you know, if we get a physical space, 1:26:31.800 --> 1:26:34.120 we can actually make money, you know, hosting people in 1:26:34.160 --> 1:26:37.040 our space, hosting our own events, building a community where 1:26:37.080 --> 1:26:39.320 people can trust us to be people who help them 1:26:39.360 --> 1:26:42.000 get to where they want to be. So that kind 1:26:42.000 --> 1:26:44.200 of grew over the last like we've been a company 1:26:44.240 --> 1:26:48.639 now for a little over a year. But the actual 1:26:48.680 --> 1:26:51.400 creative side of things actually came from me starting to 1:26:51.439 --> 1:26:54.360 write scripts when I first left college. 1:26:54.840 --> 1:26:56.840 Well you started doing it when you first left college 1:26:56.920 --> 1:26:57.880 I first left college. 1:26:57.920 --> 1:27:01.639 Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot you keep from the group chat. 1:27:01.439 --> 1:27:04.200 Man, you know what, I kind of I like to 1:27:04.280 --> 1:27:06.720 keep things close to the chest until they're actually at 1:27:06.720 --> 1:27:09.800 the point of like manifestation and like physically tangibly you 1:27:09.840 --> 1:27:12.160 can see, you know, because I don't. I don't like 1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:13.439 to be that guy that's like, hey, I'm doing this, 1:27:13.479 --> 1:27:15.080 I'm doing that. I'm like, I'd rather just show you 1:27:15.120 --> 1:27:17.840 once it's ready, you know. But yeah, I first started 1:27:17.840 --> 1:27:20.320 writing screenplay when I left college. I just took a 1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:24.240 couple like master classes YouTube university, definitely hit it up 1:27:24.680 --> 1:27:24.960 just to. 1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:26.360 Learn, you know, learn how to write screenplay. 1:27:26.360 --> 1:27:31.439 I've always loved the essence of telling the story through film, 1:27:31.640 --> 1:27:34.920 you know, depicting things like that. Was a part of 1:27:35.040 --> 1:27:37.840 one writing team, which I won't disclose their name because 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:41.160 we're no longer working together. We were actually writing a 1:27:41.160 --> 1:27:44.320 television show that was supposed to air three years ago, 1:27:44.479 --> 1:27:47.120 but the funding fell through, so that wasn't what it 1:27:47.200 --> 1:27:49.880 was and that pretty much sent me on a path 1:27:49.960 --> 1:27:52.160 to start to produce my own work. So right now 1:27:52.200 --> 1:27:55.280 I'm actually writing an animated adult sitcom that I told 1:27:55.320 --> 1:27:59.600 you about I think when we're that we're planning to 1:27:59.600 --> 1:28:02.880 produce in twenty twenty two. And so creative House is 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:05.240 one side of what I do. From a credit standpoint. 1:28:05.360 --> 1:28:09.759 We have our own creative concerts where we produce tiny 1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:12.760 desk concerts for local artists around the country just to 1:28:12.760 --> 1:28:15.560 give them more of a platform and more of a exposure. 1:28:15.640 --> 1:28:19.840 You good, Yeah, I'm good it more exposure just because 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:22.479 we feel like the underground music scene is like dying out, 1:28:22.720 --> 1:28:25.840 you know, because the streaming anyone can rap now, anyone 1:28:25.840 --> 1:28:27.360 can hop on and rap, and we feel like we 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:29.760 need to kind of take the rings and bring the 1:28:29.800 --> 1:28:32.760 actual true art of people who are actually good at 1:28:32.800 --> 1:28:36.360 making music back. So we we only feature artists who 1:28:36.400 --> 1:28:38.160 were like on the come up, not guys who are 1:28:38.080 --> 1:28:41.080 already mainstream, who've already made it. We want to get 1:28:41.120 --> 1:28:43.320 back to the little people because we're always about those 1:28:43.360 --> 1:28:45.360 people who are kind of those hitting gyms. Because I 1:28:45.360 --> 1:28:47.640 consider myself a hitting gym. Like I said, it was 1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:51.800 a two star coming out Alabama. Yeah, I worked for it. 1:28:51.840 --> 1:28:55.560 But hey, did we talk Did we talk about that 1:28:56.000 --> 1:28:56.760 blog put it in you? 1:28:57.600 --> 1:28:59.479 I think we were talking about that at some point, 1:28:59.520 --> 1:29:02.960 weren't we. I know I touched on him being drafted, 1:29:03.000 --> 1:29:07.719 but I'm talking about in the past we've talked like yeah, yeah, 1:29:07.760 --> 1:29:11.400 it's like people fuel themselves like me, I'll feel myself 1:29:11.479 --> 1:29:13.240 as an undrafted cat. But I was a four star 1:29:13.280 --> 1:29:16.360 coming out, so you know, controversially, like arguably a bust 1:29:16.760 --> 1:29:19.040 going into the league, right being a four star. But 1:29:19.200 --> 1:29:21.559 some people who are drafted high that were two stars 1:29:21.640 --> 1:29:24.439 or low stars, they'll feed on the chip of the 1:29:24.479 --> 1:29:25.599 shoulder being a low star. 1:29:25.760 --> 1:29:28.920 I always see myself as like donder dog everywhere I 1:29:29.000 --> 1:29:31.760 go all the time. And I don't know if it's 1:29:31.760 --> 1:29:34.920 like this sociopathic thing. I've told myself it definitely is 1:29:35.400 --> 1:29:38.479 our own, but like it helps me. Like anytime I 1:29:38.600 --> 1:29:40.559 walk in the room, I'm like, not that I got 1:29:40.560 --> 1:29:42.559 to prove something to anyone, but I'm just like, work 1:29:42.600 --> 1:29:43.679 hard and everybody in here. 1:29:43.800 --> 1:29:44.920 Yeah you know, yeah, I. 1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:46.519 Worked the hardest working in the room. You were always 1:29:46.520 --> 1:29:49.759 about that, you really were. That was like your quote. 1:29:50.080 --> 1:29:53.960 I think it was in your bio. I think that's 1:29:54.000 --> 1:29:57.360 some ship you put in. But you know, becoming out 1:29:58.560 --> 1:30:02.439 a dick move. Yeah, it's always I think we're all 1:30:02.560 --> 1:30:05.280 like brainwashed. I think we're all the underdogs, you know 1:30:05.320 --> 1:30:08.160 what I mean, Like I'm that way being undrafted. Taylor 1:30:08.200 --> 1:30:10.720 feels that way being drafted at like thirteen overall, He's 1:30:10.760 --> 1:30:12.200 like it was fucking twelve, motherfuckers. 1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:13.320 What oh? 1:30:13.400 --> 1:30:14.639 He argues, about all the time done. 1:30:14.680 --> 1:30:16.760 He like, just there's some there's something that all of it, 1:30:16.960 --> 1:30:19.800 like all the competitor in this just just has to 1:30:19.800 --> 1:30:21.559 bring the light. I mean, obviously you got to find 1:30:21.560 --> 1:30:24.360 your edges some somewhere, that chip on your shoulder. 1:30:24.120 --> 1:30:28.160 Yeah, I mean, honestly, if we're gonna be honest, since 1:30:28.160 --> 1:30:30.000 Taylor said what he said, I was mad that I 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:30.960 went as late as I did. 1:30:31.360 --> 1:30:33.560 And that was exactly I was mad, you know what 1:30:33.560 --> 1:30:34.759 I mean, because it's. 1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:36.240 Like, yeah, to me, you're a second rounder and you're like, 1:30:36.240 --> 1:30:38.479 oh man, the all fucking thirty two teams passed on me. 1:30:38.560 --> 1:30:42.040 It's like the fuck up second round draft? Your team, 1:30:42.200 --> 1:30:44.920 second pig. What was your signing bonus? 1:30:45.640 --> 1:30:48.160 I think it was like two point something two point 1:30:48.240 --> 1:30:51.240 something million. Yeah, yeah, a couple of million. 1:30:52.360 --> 1:30:54.880 It's five thousand, I think so yeah. 1:30:54.880 --> 1:30:58.800 I was actually respect so it might have been like 1:30:58.920 --> 1:30:59.360 added like. 1:30:59.280 --> 1:31:01.400 A million or something like twenty seven hundred after tax. 1:31:01.600 --> 1:31:02.880 Say what was my signing bonus? 1:31:02.880 --> 1:31:04.400 It was like everybody be like a million or something 1:31:04.439 --> 1:31:08.639 like that point one point three one point. 1:31:08.439 --> 1:31:17.360 One that No, that's uh, that's the vet. 1:31:17.400 --> 1:31:19.320 He got the vet that was right there. 1:31:20.040 --> 1:31:23.040 Minimum you got the max out vet bonus there like 1:31:23.040 --> 1:31:24.599 this sport track, that one right there? 1:31:24.920 --> 1:31:31.800 First your click on it. I forget, we don't have Forget, 1:31:31.800 --> 1:31:32.479 we don't have Alex. 1:31:32.760 --> 1:31:35.880 You guys got we got ja, we got JP trying 1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:43.280 to fucking run it back there, learning Yeah, scroll down, 1:31:43.360 --> 1:31:43.880 let's see it. 1:31:47.320 --> 1:31:54.400 Yeah, god boy, one point three million, that's nice. 1:31:54.400 --> 1:31:54.599 Man. 1:31:54.800 --> 1:31:56.559 I'll tell you what when that first, When that first 1:31:56.720 --> 1:32:00.599 you get your first check, bro, is that not an 1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:01.320 incredible feeling? 1:32:01.479 --> 1:32:01.840 It was. 1:32:01.960 --> 1:32:04.040 I mean my first check was a practice squad check, 1:32:04.080 --> 1:32:05.439 but I felt like I was on top of the 1:32:05.479 --> 1:32:06.080 fucking world. 1:32:06.160 --> 1:32:08.560 Hey man, there's more money what you had. Yes, you 1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:10.000 know what I'm saying. It's more money what you had. 1:32:10.040 --> 1:32:10.200 Man. 1:32:12.040 --> 1:32:15.320 I actually had a really really crazy draft day. Do 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:16.519 you know my draft day story? 1:32:16.720 --> 1:32:18.240 No, but I would love for you to share. 1:32:18.360 --> 1:32:18.599 Yeah. 1:32:18.640 --> 1:32:21.920 So Draft Day I was in back in Birmingham, Alabama 1:32:22.000 --> 1:32:25.799 with my family and the second round starts and the 1:32:25.920 --> 1:32:28.679 Arizona Cardinals called me and they know, they're like, stay 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:30.120 on the phone when it's the whole draft, we're gonna 1:32:30.160 --> 1:32:31.519 pick you, but we have like the I think they 1:32:31.520 --> 1:32:33.800 had like the eighteenth pick in the second second round, 1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:36.800 and I'm on the phone with Bruce Arians and me 1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:40.640 and Bruce Arians have history because he I don't know 1:32:40.680 --> 1:32:43.639 if he's from Alabama, but he was down in Alabama 1:32:43.680 --> 1:32:45.080 for some time and he used to host his camp 1:32:45.120 --> 1:32:48.439 at Hoover High School. When I was fourteen, I got 1:32:48.479 --> 1:32:52.960 a Hoover Hoover Yeah good, real good. Marlon Humphreys went there, 1:32:53.320 --> 1:32:57.559 but I got MVP at that at that camp, and 1:32:57.640 --> 1:32:59.120 jokingly he was like, man, you're gonna play in the 1:32:59.160 --> 1:33:02.920 league one day. And then ironically years later he's calling 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:05.559 me trying to draft me. So he's like, dude, I 1:33:05.600 --> 1:33:07.599 told you, you know, we're just joking about that. I'm like, man, 1:33:07.600 --> 1:33:10.840 this is you can't write this stuff literally before I 1:33:10.880 --> 1:33:13.720 can even like, you know, get So it's the pick 1:33:13.800 --> 1:33:17.080 right before Arizona Detroit's on the clock. Didn't even call me, 1:33:17.479 --> 1:33:19.880 didn't even call me, and I just hear my mom 1:33:19.920 --> 1:33:22.479 saying America, come inside because I went outside because I 1:33:22.479 --> 1:33:23.240 was kind of stressed out. 1:33:23.439 --> 1:33:23.680 T J. 1:33:23.840 --> 1:33:25.880 Yoda and I got picked, and then like I was like, 1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:28.080 all right, man, all the draft board said I was 1:33:28.120 --> 1:33:30.160 supposed to go before TJ. Yoda, So I was like, 1:33:30.160 --> 1:33:31.880 oh man, I don't know what's gonna happen. So my 1:33:31.920 --> 1:33:34.240 mom's like come inside and the pick is in and 1:33:34.280 --> 1:33:36.880 Detroit had just picked me. Didn't even call me, so 1:33:36.920 --> 1:33:39.000 I had to tell Bruce Arians on the phone, like, yo, 1:33:39.040 --> 1:33:42.759 I just got drafted by the Detroit Lions. You know, sorry, 1:33:42.760 --> 1:33:45.000 I can't be Arizona Cardinal. But they end up getting 1:33:45.040 --> 1:33:46.720 David Johnson, which was a good pick for him. He 1:33:46.760 --> 1:33:48.439 was solid for him for a few years. 1:33:48.520 --> 1:33:50.920 Yeah, so yeah, you know what I mean. They traded 1:33:51.000 --> 1:33:52.560 him for DeAndre Hopkins. 1:33:53.000 --> 1:34:01.599 Yeah, in incredible. What must have some dirt on them? 1:34:01.600 --> 1:34:05.960 I don't know you no, no say today with Johnson, 1:34:05.960 --> 1:34:08.320 I think he's a savage. But but d Hobbits won 1:34:08.360 --> 1:34:09.519 a lifetime type of receiver. 1:34:09.720 --> 1:34:15.000 Yes, bro man, Yeah what I'm saying, I was just 1:34:15.040 --> 1:34:17.519 gonna talk about with the with the draft or something 1:34:17.520 --> 1:34:18.160 with the draft. 1:34:18.880 --> 1:34:19.360 Boys. 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:21.920 If you love watching live sports but you're tired of 1:34:21.960 --> 1:34:24.320 the high prices, it's time to take control of your 1:34:24.360 --> 1:34:27.120 life and your TV experience, and it's time for you 1:34:27.160 --> 1:34:30.080 to get sling. Sling is a place where your favorite 1:34:30.120 --> 1:34:34.639 sports channels like ESPN, FS ONE, tn T and more 1:34:35.120 --> 1:34:38.519 all together for less, and it's the cheapest way to 1:34:38.560 --> 1:34:43.320 get the best NFL viewing experience. 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Go to sling dot com 1:35:19.400 --> 1:35:22.200 slash barstool to sign up now and get your first 1:35:22.360 --> 1:35:25.720 month starting at ten dollars. 1:35:26.439 --> 1:35:27.400 You had your draft story. 1:35:27.840 --> 1:35:29.160 Were you tight when you didn't get drafted? 1:35:30.000 --> 1:35:32.360 Yeah? I was tight for sure. Yeah. I mean I 1:35:32.760 --> 1:35:35.639 was undrafted, like I thought I'd be a low round. 1:35:35.680 --> 1:35:37.320 Like you let the thought get in your head to 1:35:37.400 --> 1:35:39.200 everybody said, oh, it's better to go and drafted than 1:35:39.240 --> 1:35:41.000 be a seventh rounder, and so I bought into that 1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:41.479 for sure. 1:35:41.520 --> 1:35:44.280 But yeah, I do think it is better to go 1:35:44.280 --> 1:35:45.559 and drive seventh round. 1:35:45.680 --> 1:35:48.839 Sure, but I want to say day one, the Chargers 1:35:48.880 --> 1:35:52.799 called me, not to obviously, well clearly, but they called 1:35:52.840 --> 1:35:54.640 about like, yeah, we're very interested in you. This is 1:35:54.680 --> 1:35:58.479 on like day one, talking about probably on day three 1:35:58.560 --> 1:35:59.599 we're gonna look to get you. 1:36:00.400 --> 1:36:03.280 They drafted Mantiteou in the second round. 1:36:04.360 --> 1:36:07.960 But yeah, I mean I was let down for sure, salty, 1:36:08.080 --> 1:36:10.800 and I felt like the undrafted process happened really faster, 1:36:11.000 --> 1:36:11.439 like three teams. 1:36:11.479 --> 1:36:11.880 I want to say. 1:36:11.880 --> 1:36:16.000 It was like Tampa Bay, the Redskins in Chicago that 1:36:16.200 --> 1:36:19.519 were and then a couple others that were wanting me. 1:36:19.520 --> 1:36:21.240 And then I was like my agent was kind of 1:36:21.240 --> 1:36:23.320 talking about, you know, the depth chart and things like that, 1:36:23.320 --> 1:36:24.719 and I thought it'd be cool to play in Tampa 1:36:24.760 --> 1:36:26.519 because obviously Levante was there. 1:36:27.080 --> 1:36:28.000 And then he just calls me. 1:36:27.920 --> 1:36:32.559 Back, Hey, congratulations, you're you're you're Washington, You're Washington football teammate, 1:36:34.400 --> 1:36:39.200 and uh so it kind of just happened fast. I 1:36:39.240 --> 1:36:41.760 mean everyone's like happy and celebrated, and I was just 1:36:41.800 --> 1:36:44.040 kind of like bummed, you know, I didn't get drafted, 1:36:44.080 --> 1:36:47.000 but it made for a better story, Like I wouldn't 1:36:47.040 --> 1:36:51.320 change it, Like I fucking loved the whole undrafted just 1:36:52.200 --> 1:36:54.439 journey I've been on, I feel like but yeah, I 1:36:54.520 --> 1:36:55.240 was fucking bombed. 1:36:55.439 --> 1:36:59.040 So we we talked about like some things I'm doing creatively, 1:36:59.120 --> 1:37:01.200 you know we're creative. How some scriptwriting and you know 1:37:01.360 --> 1:37:04.120 where I want to go with that. I do have 1:37:04.160 --> 1:37:05.720 to ask this question. I know we kind of talked 1:37:05.720 --> 1:37:08.360 about it earlier and opening this up to everybody. Do 1:37:08.439 --> 1:37:13.080 you think that there should be in today's society there 1:37:13.160 --> 1:37:18.840 is naturally a separation from what you do and what 1:37:18.880 --> 1:37:23.920 you love when it comes to like professionally, like making 1:37:24.040 --> 1:37:27.240 money a lot of times doesn't always align with what 1:37:27.360 --> 1:37:30.320 you love, at least from my peers. Do you think 1:37:30.479 --> 1:37:33.519 naturally a lot of times you have to separate what 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:35.960 makes money for you from what you love? 1:37:37.000 --> 1:37:37.840 Like do you do? You do? 1:37:37.920 --> 1:37:38.640 You do? 1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:41.719 You always see yourself? You know we're busting with the boys. 1:37:42.120 --> 1:37:43.120 Oh no, come on. 1:37:43.040 --> 1:37:45.200 Now, yeah you got you guys. You guys have gotten 1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:48.600 to Uh. I would text in the group chat about 1:37:48.840 --> 1:37:50.759 doing a podcast of that. We talked about doing a podcast. 1:37:50.800 --> 1:37:52.320 Yeah for sure, maybe you feel. 1:37:52.080 --> 1:37:52.519 Some uh. 1:37:54.680 --> 1:37:58.760 Exactly there get into the nitty gritty, you know, we 1:37:59.120 --> 1:38:00.240 wouldn't be on a fucking us. 1:38:00.240 --> 1:38:03.360 I'll tell you that we wouldn't be on the bus. 1:38:03.600 --> 1:38:06.160 We wanted, we wanted, uh me and I dabbled about 1:38:06.200 --> 1:38:08.919 it at the thought too. I want to say, we wanted. 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:10.240 To call it the black and white, black and white, 1:38:10.520 --> 1:38:12.680 keep things black and white, no grain in between, and 1:38:12.720 --> 1:38:13.960 it's a black guy and a white guy. 1:38:14.200 --> 1:38:16.800 Yeah, it's idea. It can still fucking happen now, Like, 1:38:16.880 --> 1:38:17.439 let's not get a. 1:38:17.439 --> 1:38:18.479 Twisted he could definitely. 1:38:18.520 --> 1:38:20.840 Could you see the new facility, we're reeling it in. 1:38:21.520 --> 1:38:22.880 You take you know what you want to do with 1:38:22.960 --> 1:38:23.800 the tiny stuff? 1:38:23.840 --> 1:38:26.599 Dude, I'm writing Atlanta. That's a forty minute flight. 1:38:26.640 --> 1:38:27.960 That's nothing. Bury it all together. 1:38:28.320 --> 1:38:30.840 Hey, yeah we could, We're could, We really could. 1:38:31.520 --> 1:38:33.040 But no, I didn't see myself doing this. 1:38:33.160 --> 1:38:38.439 But I feel I feel weird answer the questions just 1:38:38.479 --> 1:38:40.920 because I've played professional football and made. 1:38:40.720 --> 1:38:42.200 A lot of money, you know what I mean? 1:38:42.800 --> 1:38:45.720 Like, so I guess I want to understand more of 1:38:45.720 --> 1:38:48.360 the context, Like do you feel the question is? 1:38:48.400 --> 1:38:49.599 What do you feel? 1:38:49.600 --> 1:38:52.800 Like it's natural to separate how you make money and 1:38:52.880 --> 1:38:55.120 doing what you're doing what you love, Like what's the 1:38:55.400 --> 1:38:56.280 essence of the question. 1:38:56.400 --> 1:38:58.760 So I was actually talking to a lady friend of 1:38:58.760 --> 1:39:03.840 mine and right now is selling life insurance and it's 1:39:03.840 --> 1:39:06.479 not what she really wants to do, but it makes 1:39:06.479 --> 1:39:09.759 a lot of money for you know, she's really an artist, 1:39:09.920 --> 1:39:11.680 you know what I mean. She's really good at you know, 1:39:11.800 --> 1:39:14.439 videography work as well, and she does a lot of painting. 1:39:14.479 --> 1:39:16.560 That's what she likes to do to express herself. It 1:39:16.640 --> 1:39:17.639 makes her feel loved. 1:39:18.600 --> 1:39:21.320 But that shit don't make a lot of money sometimes, man, 1:39:21.600 --> 1:39:25.280 like the market for someone who sees themselves as an artist, 1:39:25.320 --> 1:39:29.080 something that's subjectively grated doesn't make a lot of money. 1:39:29.320 --> 1:39:31.960 So she was kind of saying a lot of times 1:39:33.200 --> 1:39:38.439 in America specifically, you have to separate what makes money 1:39:38.479 --> 1:39:40.559 for you from what really makes you feel good as 1:39:40.560 --> 1:39:44.760 a person, you know, And because when you try to, 1:39:45.120 --> 1:39:47.080 when you find yourself in a space where you're doing 1:39:47.160 --> 1:39:49.920 things that you really want and they're not making money 1:39:49.960 --> 1:39:52.280 for you, it can build like this resentment where you're 1:39:52.280 --> 1:39:54.800 looking at what you do it's kind of just like 1:39:56.160 --> 1:39:56.920 not worth. 1:39:56.640 --> 1:39:57.360 It, right. 1:39:57.720 --> 1:39:59.360 I think a lot of it depends on what you 1:39:59.360 --> 1:40:01.880 want out of life, Like sometimes you got to know 1:40:02.560 --> 1:40:06.559 what lane you're getting into, and that resentment you ultimately create. 1:40:06.760 --> 1:40:09.240 Like obviously it sounds like it's easy for me to say, 1:40:09.400 --> 1:40:11.400 because you know, I played football. Now I sit on 1:40:11.400 --> 1:40:17.200 a bus. But if resentment is getting created, I feel 1:40:17.200 --> 1:40:19.840 like your mental is not necessarily in the right spot 1:40:19.920 --> 1:40:23.840 because you're labeling with something whether or not you hate it. 1:40:23.880 --> 1:40:26.360 You're labeling as somebody that's in this. You know, I 1:40:26.360 --> 1:40:29.439 would assume like capitalistic world of how you have to 1:40:29.439 --> 1:40:32.559 make money and if you're truly not happy. Like my wife, 1:40:32.600 --> 1:40:35.519 for instance, she was an accountant making solid money out 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:42.080 in DC like p PwC does that, like A does 1:40:42.120 --> 1:40:44.280 that not like an accounting okay, one of the bigger 1:40:44.320 --> 1:40:47.240 accounting brands out there. And she was a she was 1:40:47.280 --> 1:40:49.640 a tax accountant, and she had a trajectory of like 1:40:49.680 --> 1:40:51.240 you know, going and you want to make partner and 1:40:51.240 --> 1:40:53.080 you want to make a lot of money. And she 1:40:53.400 --> 1:40:57.439 left being a tax accountant to start managing Bar three studios, 1:40:57.439 --> 1:40:59.479 getting in the fitness because of the whole mind body 1:40:59.479 --> 1:41:00.960 connection all that kind of stuff. 1:41:01.160 --> 1:41:02.960 So she, you know, took a serious. 1:41:02.600 --> 1:41:04.120 Pay cut and wanted to kind of go chase her 1:41:04.200 --> 1:41:07.639 dream of owning a Bar three studio, which one day 1:41:07.800 --> 1:41:12.360 I believe she will. And you know, she's an example 1:41:12.400 --> 1:41:14.639 of somebody who like left something that they didn't enjoy 1:41:14.680 --> 1:41:15.960 doing because they weren't getting what they. 1:41:15.840 --> 1:41:16.679 Wanted out of life. 1:41:16.760 --> 1:41:18.600 I think ultimately you have to ask yourself, like what 1:41:18.600 --> 1:41:19.759 you're wanting out of life? 1:41:19.920 --> 1:41:20.519 You know what I mean? 1:41:20.600 --> 1:41:23.840 Like, yeah, we played ball, but we knew going to 1:41:23.920 --> 1:41:26.840 college and everything we were putting into Like myself, I 1:41:26.880 --> 1:41:30.120 was a very focused individual, like wanting to play football 1:41:30.120 --> 1:41:32.800 in high school. I feel like I had a good 1:41:32.800 --> 1:41:35.680 head on my shoulders. I had good influences, Like I 1:41:35.720 --> 1:41:40.719 came from a small you know, I won't say Poduck Town, Monta, Missouri, 1:41:41.320 --> 1:41:46.400 say it without saying it, but you're in a small. 1:41:46.120 --> 1:41:48.800 Town where you're. 1:41:47.800 --> 1:41:51.360 Not taught to think outside of small town, not because 1:41:51.360 --> 1:41:53.519 people didn't want to, but you almost don't know how 1:41:53.520 --> 1:41:55.560 to because not a lot of people leave where I 1:41:55.600 --> 1:41:56.000 grew up. 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:58.320 There was never there. 1:41:59.439 --> 1:42:01.040 You can count on one hand people that went and 1:42:01.080 --> 1:42:03.680 played that went and did something in college on a 1:42:03.720 --> 1:42:07.400 d one level. From athletics, nobody really played professionally. There's 1:42:07.439 --> 1:42:11.000 a punter that played for the Ravens for a long time. 1:42:11.040 --> 1:42:13.000 I forget it. It might have been like Kyle Richardson 1:42:13.000 --> 1:42:15.240 maybe who played for a long time with the Ravens 1:42:15.280 --> 1:42:16.960 that came out of like a few towns over, but 1:42:17.000 --> 1:42:19.559 nobody ever went on and did stuff that you know 1:42:19.800 --> 1:42:21.920 I'm getting to currently do, and like my brother going 1:42:21.920 --> 1:42:24.400 in scholarship or wrestling, like, you're never taught to think 1:42:24.400 --> 1:42:28.679 outside of that element, right, and so I think ultimately 1:42:28.720 --> 1:42:31.120 you need to figure out, like what you want. I 1:42:31.200 --> 1:42:33.599 say that from a fortunate standpoint of like learning young 1:42:33.680 --> 1:42:36.040 that I wanted to put into such an amount of 1:42:36.040 --> 1:42:38.799 work to football to hopefully be a professional football football 1:42:38.800 --> 1:42:41.439 player one day. But I knew, like learning under we 1:42:41.479 --> 1:42:43.439 talk about the process of everything else, you're not a 1:42:43.439 --> 1:42:44.080 summertime guy. 1:42:44.080 --> 1:42:44.920 You're an all the time guy. 1:42:45.040 --> 1:42:49.240 So what I did in football, I knew I needed 1:42:49.280 --> 1:42:52.559 to take the same standards and approach it to what 1:42:52.600 --> 1:42:54.800 I wanted to do next, because at the end of 1:42:54.840 --> 1:42:57.559 the day, no one's coming to save you, like no 1:42:57.560 --> 1:42:59.760 one's gonna lay. I've went on about this before I 1:42:59.760 --> 1:43:03.560 got talk about it on Token CEO Erica Nardini's podcast, 1:43:04.680 --> 1:43:07.439 that you don't lay, that saying no one is sharing 1:43:07.439 --> 1:43:09.400 your pillow at night, whether or not you have somebody 1:43:09.479 --> 1:43:11.040 laying next to you, like they can be your biggest 1:43:11.040 --> 1:43:14.320 supporter of all time, but they're not carrying the stress 1:43:14.360 --> 1:43:15.800 that you have going on in your life. 1:43:16.320 --> 1:43:18.799 So unless you figure out like what it is that's. 1:43:18.640 --> 1:43:21.320 Truly eating that you're and truly bothering you, you don't 1:43:21.320 --> 1:43:23.320 necessarily have to set forth some kind of plan of 1:43:23.360 --> 1:43:26.320 action because, like you said it, like you get to 1:43:26.360 --> 1:43:28.679 a place and fortunately we were playing, you were playing 1:43:28.680 --> 1:43:30.000 in the league to where you knew you were all 1:43:30.040 --> 1:43:33.840 right financially but mentally didn't meet what people saw you 1:43:33.920 --> 1:43:36.719 as right, But you had to wake up one morning 1:43:37.200 --> 1:43:40.160 or on a consistent amount of mornings and kind of 1:43:40.240 --> 1:43:43.040 question like, what am I fucking wanting out of this? 1:43:43.080 --> 1:43:45.200 Because I'm a second round draft pick, I had a 1:43:45.280 --> 1:43:48.559 decent first year, I've gotten injured, I'm downloading the dumps, Like, 1:43:48.840 --> 1:43:51.200 how am I gonna, you know, get myself out of that? 1:43:51.760 --> 1:43:53.559 I think that's ultimately like what people have to do, 1:43:53.560 --> 1:43:55.720 And you might have to take a shitty way at first, right, 1:43:56.120 --> 1:43:59.040 but ultimately, like you have to start with the end 1:43:59.080 --> 1:44:01.479 of mind, like what is the all you want? What 1:44:01.640 --> 1:44:04.280 is the process that's gonna get me there? And again, 1:44:04.360 --> 1:44:06.799 it's easy to say and talk about, but it's truly 1:44:07.000 --> 1:44:09.640 what I've done with anything I've ever I feel like 1:44:09.640 --> 1:44:13.639 I've cultivated in my life, and you got to review 1:44:13.680 --> 1:44:15.400 it and feel it and see it every day, like 1:44:15.640 --> 1:44:18.519 you where you're at mentally because you've built habits of 1:44:18.560 --> 1:44:21.240 waking up with the sun like I'm and I don't know, 1:44:21.320 --> 1:44:22.880 I'm ignorant of some of this stuff. I'm starting to 1:44:22.960 --> 1:44:24.960 learn about the spiritual side of things. But you talk 1:44:25.000 --> 1:44:27.360 about waking up with the sun like moving your body like. 1:44:27.520 --> 1:44:29.559 You want your play. You want your mental to be 1:44:29.600 --> 1:44:34.080 in a certain place that where you're feeling good no 1:44:34.120 --> 1:44:36.599 matter what's happening in your life. You say your heart 1:44:36.640 --> 1:44:39.760 rate doesn't rise as much anymore. I've seen you post 1:44:39.880 --> 1:44:42.840 photos of you meditating before a game when some people 1:44:42.920 --> 1:44:45.519 like myself are getting amped up. I'm painting my face. 1:44:45.880 --> 1:44:46.799 I'm fucking talking. 1:44:46.600 --> 1:44:49.720 About pre work out like you, You're you're flowing, You're 1:44:49.760 --> 1:44:52.080 in some flow state, right, but you don't get there. 1:44:52.320 --> 1:44:54.760 You had to see what you wanted right, and the 1:44:54.800 --> 1:44:56.360 process for you to get there is like I'm gonna 1:44:56.439 --> 1:44:58.840 change my habits and how I'm gonna review it and 1:44:58.840 --> 1:45:00.559 feel it every day is I'm gonna at my alarm 1:45:00.560 --> 1:45:02.719 at five fifteen. It's gonna go off because it's gonna 1:45:02.720 --> 1:45:04.559 trigger something psychologically in my brain. 1:45:04.880 --> 1:45:04.960 On. 1:45:05.040 --> 1:45:08.439 This is why I'm doing this, and you're doing it 1:45:08.479 --> 1:45:10.920 every day, and these habits have formed over time and 1:45:11.000 --> 1:45:13.800 created and manifested, you know this being that you've wonn 1:45:13.800 --> 1:45:14.639 to mentally spiritually. 1:45:14.640 --> 1:45:16.000 I'm not talking about the football stuff. 1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:18.679 I'm talking about another form that people might be able 1:45:18.680 --> 1:45:20.320 to relate to. Like, maybe you're in a job that 1:45:20.360 --> 1:45:22.439 you don't like, but there's a side hustle that you're doing. 1:45:22.680 --> 1:45:24.400 That you and some of you guys. 1:45:24.400 --> 1:45:25.920 I would love for you guys to trying to speak 1:45:25.920 --> 1:45:28.360 on it because you guys, you know not you guys 1:45:28.400 --> 1:45:32.080 are in like perception where it could be relative to 1:45:32.080 --> 1:45:34.280 somebody else, Will saying, like all Will's up there, he's 1:45:34.320 --> 1:45:38.360 been a eight year vet, he's sent on a above 1:45:38.400 --> 1:45:41.360 average podcast, you know what I mean. And so I'm 1:45:41.360 --> 1:45:43.599 trying to think of something that's relative to everybody else. 1:45:43.600 --> 1:45:46.360 But ultimately it's you got to figure out what you 1:45:46.400 --> 1:45:51.280 want and in all areas, not just financially, because you 1:45:51.360 --> 1:45:55.280 chase money, you're never gonna stop chasing. You know, you 1:45:55.400 --> 1:45:57.759 chase in a certain area, you're never gonna stop chasing. 1:45:57.800 --> 1:45:59.280 I guess, like you say, you can't pull. 1:45:59.080 --> 1:46:01.360 The moon to you. You got to what was the 1:46:01.880 --> 1:46:03.280 rest of that quote. You can't put the move too. 1:46:03.360 --> 1:46:05.719 You got to uh, I don't know, you said something 1:46:05.720 --> 1:46:09.400 fucking beautifully earlier. But it's got to be like a 1:46:09.800 --> 1:46:14.080 cultivation throughout your throughout all of your areas, right, and 1:46:15.160 --> 1:46:16.960 you have to figure out a way to review it. 1:46:17.080 --> 1:46:19.920 I'm a big believer in writing shit down. I write 1:46:19.960 --> 1:46:22.800 to myself all the time. I write goals like this podcast. 1:46:22.840 --> 1:46:24.479 It was a small goal now that I think about it, 1:46:24.520 --> 1:46:26.840 But I can take a photo and put it on here. 1:46:26.880 --> 1:46:29.880 But there's a writing in my old journal that was 1:46:29.920 --> 1:46:33.400 back in two thousand and sixteen, I believe, or twenty seventeen, 1:46:34.040 --> 1:46:37.640 in April April something, twenty sixteen seventeen that said, I 1:46:37.680 --> 1:46:39.519 want to be one of the first, or I want 1:46:39.520 --> 1:46:41.360 to be the first. I don't know if I was. 1:46:41.600 --> 1:46:45.280 I think we were NFL Active, NFL Player podcast with 1:46:45.360 --> 1:46:48.400 a million downloads. Slash Coach because I've you know, I've 1:46:48.400 --> 1:46:49.599 always had aspirations of coaching. 1:46:51.000 --> 1:46:52.360 I might have because I've shared like. 1:46:52.320 --> 1:46:54.680 Stuff with like, you know, some of my boys that like, 1:46:54.800 --> 1:46:58.000 we always kind of check in with each other. Twenty 1:46:58.080 --> 1:47:00.240 sent me a text like from years back time about 1:47:00.240 --> 1:47:05.920 the podcast and but I've written that shit down, like 1:47:06.000 --> 1:47:09.760 I've written down anything that has kind of transpired. Whether 1:47:09.840 --> 1:47:12.160 or not I've gotten there, it's been like up and 1:47:12.240 --> 1:47:15.360 down because there's also like getting a three earning a 1:47:15.400 --> 1:47:17.720 three year contract, like when I became a starter, was 1:47:17.760 --> 1:47:20.559 able to play a whole season. I didn't attain that, 1:47:20.560 --> 1:47:23.400 there's gonna be something fall short of. But for me personally, 1:47:23.840 --> 1:47:25.519 it's start with the end in mind. Figure out what 1:47:25.560 --> 1:47:29.160 you want, understand what that process looks like. And it 1:47:29.240 --> 1:47:31.200 might be a shittier process than a lot of people. 1:47:31.280 --> 1:47:33.639 Like everyone's gonna have a different win at their sale. 1:47:33.920 --> 1:47:37.080 It's just life like life. It just fucking is what 1:47:37.120 --> 1:47:40.679 it is. No one is coming to save you, whatever 1:47:40.720 --> 1:47:43.439 your situation is. No one's coming to save that except 1:47:43.520 --> 1:47:46.160 you figuring out what you want out of it, yeah, 1:47:46.240 --> 1:47:48.439 and then figuring out how to review and feel it 1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:51.400 every day. Some people might say, hey, that's too ambition driven, 1:47:51.760 --> 1:47:56.160 that's too like you know what you feed your moncy, 1:47:56.160 --> 1:48:00.240 like you want too much, or people sometimes are are 1:48:00.439 --> 1:48:04.360 pushed away from the whole personal development kind of side 1:48:04.400 --> 1:48:08.599 of things because it's very like ambitious, right, And I'm 1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:11.280 learning now recently, I'm saying a lot of different something 1:48:11.280 --> 1:48:12.000 I'm jumping around here. 1:48:12.040 --> 1:48:13.680 No, man, I'm taking a lot from it. 1:48:14.160 --> 1:48:16.240 One thing that really hit me when you were talking 1:48:16.280 --> 1:48:18.680 about you're saying, no one's going to come and save you, 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:20.680 and kind of going back to the question of like 1:48:20.760 --> 1:48:22.799 do you choose what makes money or do you choose 1:48:22.840 --> 1:48:25.200 what makes you happy? I think a lot of reasons 1:48:25.200 --> 1:48:29.120 why people don't choose what just makes them happy as 1:48:29.160 --> 1:48:32.639 far as like their profession to lead in is because 1:48:32.720 --> 1:48:36.240 they don't want to take the accountability of the self. 1:48:36.320 --> 1:48:40.320 Accountability of like if they fail, because you're because you're 1:48:40.360 --> 1:48:41.160 relying on yourself. 1:48:41.200 --> 1:48:42.360 Like if you're an entrepreneur. 1:48:42.520 --> 1:48:44.320 I know the term gets thrown around a lot now, 1:48:44.360 --> 1:48:47.400 but someone who works for you yourself, builds your own 1:48:47.479 --> 1:48:48.920 you know, your own businesses. 1:48:49.960 --> 1:48:51.040 Everything comes from you. 1:48:51.600 --> 1:48:54.120 Isn't any structure of your job telling you when you 1:48:54.200 --> 1:48:57.720 got to go to work, you know, any programs that's 1:48:57.760 --> 1:49:00.360 saying like this is how we're going to facil irtate 1:49:00.439 --> 1:49:03.280 our business. You have to come up with everything on 1:49:03.320 --> 1:49:06.960 your own, and taking the accountability when is going well 1:49:07.000 --> 1:49:09.719 and when it's not going well is a lot of pressure. 1:49:09.960 --> 1:49:12.200 And I think a lot of people would rather just say, 1:49:12.200 --> 1:49:14.960 you know what, I would rather just fall in line 1:49:15.240 --> 1:49:17.600 and kind of be a little bit miserable on the 1:49:17.680 --> 1:49:19.840 day to day and make a little money on the way, 1:49:20.080 --> 1:49:24.439 as opposed to being liberated spiritually by doing what I've 1:49:24.560 --> 1:49:27.360 set my set out to do but working ten times 1:49:27.400 --> 1:49:28.200 as hard. 1:49:28.720 --> 1:49:32.640 I'll tell you what the whole entrepreneurial like life is not. 1:49:32.760 --> 1:49:35.759 It's it's not like it's a term that gets thrown 1:49:35.760 --> 1:49:38.720 out there, and like, you know, ninety percent of entrepreneurs 1:49:38.720 --> 1:49:42.120 fail because you got to put to you got to 1:49:42.160 --> 1:49:45.479 put everything into practice, like it is on you. Like like, bro, 1:49:45.840 --> 1:49:47.559 you've done your stuff over theres and you you drop 1:49:47.560 --> 1:49:49.839 stuff in group chats and people share stuff like you 1:49:49.840 --> 1:49:53.240 you've done a you know, multitude of things, right, you've 1:49:53.280 --> 1:49:55.719 sat down with like kids, like you've done some cool 1:49:55.800 --> 1:49:59.360 dope shit real estate, real estate, and you can drop it, 1:49:59.479 --> 1:50:01.720 you can drip and I hope your boys share and 1:50:01.880 --> 1:50:03.880 do things like that. But at the end of the day, bro, 1:50:04.840 --> 1:50:09.519 like nobody cares work harder. And that sounds fucking crazy shit, 1:50:11.040 --> 1:50:13.000 but it is. It's so true. And if you're in 1:50:13.080 --> 1:50:15.600 if your mental's not right about it, like there is 1:50:15.800 --> 1:50:18.320 a spiritual side to it, Like there's there's times where 1:50:18.320 --> 1:50:20.800 I got to sit back, like I'm craving too much, 1:50:20.840 --> 1:50:22.519 I'm desiring too much, and I don't know if it's 1:50:22.560 --> 1:50:25.160 coming from I don't know if it's coming from me 1:50:25.240 --> 1:50:28.639 or an influence of me looking at other shit out there, 1:50:28.840 --> 1:50:31.080 and I'm feeding my soul differently than I need to. 1:50:31.120 --> 1:50:33.639 I'm not I'm not focusing reading what I want to read. 1:50:33.680 --> 1:50:36.439 I'm scrolling a little bit more. I'm looking at other 1:50:36.479 --> 1:50:40.120 people's pages. I'm like feeding my soul differently. But I 1:50:40.120 --> 1:50:42.040 can get to the root of why I'm getting that way, 1:50:42.120 --> 1:50:44.240 so I can reel it in and be like, comp 1:50:44.240 --> 1:50:46.240 You're not on this trajectory right now. I might see 1:50:46.240 --> 1:50:48.280 something from you seeing you breathing, and I'm like, I 1:50:48.280 --> 1:50:49.439 need to get back on my breath work. 1:50:49.600 --> 1:50:51.519 I sit here like I read a breath book and I. 1:50:51.439 --> 1:50:53.760 Did breathing for a month, and now I'm going to 1:50:53.840 --> 1:50:56.280 tell people I breathe now, and then I stop doing 1:50:56.320 --> 1:50:57.000 it for a little bit. 1:50:57.360 --> 1:50:59.160 But oh, I'm on that shit. You know what I mean. 1:51:00.080 --> 1:51:03.599 You have to check yourself, which goes to one thousand 1:51:03.640 --> 1:51:07.040 percent self accountability. Yes, and you do like where you 1:51:07.120 --> 1:51:11.040 are right now currently is based on literally every decision 1:51:11.120 --> 1:51:13.960 you've made. You might have had some bad fucking situations 1:51:14.000 --> 1:51:16.240 happened to you, but even the way you respond to 1:51:16.280 --> 1:51:18.719 every situation, it's still a choice. It's still something universal 1:51:18.920 --> 1:51:21.680 where the universe is going to continue to lead you 1:51:21.720 --> 1:51:23.960 down that path or leads you back again. We're saying 1:51:24.000 --> 1:51:25.960 a lot of different shit. I hope I'm not jumping 1:51:25.960 --> 1:51:29.679 around too many different spots, but like it ultimately comes 1:51:29.720 --> 1:51:33.040 down to that's a very like it's just a personal question, 1:51:33.680 --> 1:51:36.120 like are you what are you wanting out of it all? 1:51:36.479 --> 1:51:38.519 Because what is success to you? 1:51:38.600 --> 1:51:38.760 Right? 1:51:38.880 --> 1:51:42.040 Like that's the million dollar question, Like we always ask 1:51:42.240 --> 1:51:43.920 what success is. At one point in time, for me, 1:51:44.960 --> 1:51:48.960 success was winning a conference title with my boys and 1:51:49.120 --> 1:51:53.680 fucking bench squatting five hundred pounds, Like my goals were 1:51:53.760 --> 1:51:58.920 very self like prophecy type of fucking like ambitious shit 1:51:59.000 --> 1:52:01.679 that have to do only with football and nobody else, 1:52:01.760 --> 1:52:03.519 nothing else going on, Like I want to be the 1:52:03.520 --> 1:52:04.600 best football player. 1:52:04.640 --> 1:52:05.639 And yeah, I look back. 1:52:05.520 --> 1:52:07.320 Now and it's like, man, I was so ego driven 1:52:07.320 --> 1:52:08.800 back then, and they're still ego. 1:52:08.880 --> 1:52:11.000 I carry on all the time, right, I. 1:52:10.960 --> 1:52:14.240 Think if I can, Yeah, Like please, I think every 1:52:14.720 --> 1:52:17.800 I think everything you're saying is part of that lego 1:52:17.880 --> 1:52:20.920 piece that's making will comportonently he is. It's like it 1:52:21.080 --> 1:52:23.280 wasn't that you was just ego driven at that time. 1:52:23.520 --> 1:52:25.719 You were exactly who you needed to be at that time. 1:52:25.760 --> 1:52:28.360 You need to feed that side of yourself to create 1:52:28.439 --> 1:52:32.040 this complete person who you're becoming. You know, it's like 1:52:33.120 --> 1:52:35.479 one thing Like for me, I do, I do believe 1:52:35.479 --> 1:52:37.960 in like the the zodeaction shit like that. I'm a Gemini, 1:52:38.080 --> 1:52:39.840 so like I'm very like it's hard for me to 1:52:39.880 --> 1:52:42.720 focus on one thing sometimes, but I do believe like 1:52:42.800 --> 1:52:45.280 if you really want to be successful, you have to 1:52:45.439 --> 1:52:48.280 focus on one thing at a time, you know what 1:52:48.320 --> 1:52:51.880 I'm saying. Like Bruce Lee used to like on one 1:52:52.040 --> 1:52:53.559 thing they said he used to do to train, Like 1:52:53.600 --> 1:52:57.160 his focus is he will watch like water just drip 1:52:57.479 --> 1:53:00.000 from a faucet and try not to think about anything 1:53:00.000 --> 1:53:02.599 anything else but that water dripping from a foster for 1:53:02.640 --> 1:53:03.200 like an hour. 1:53:03.280 --> 1:53:04.360 Could you imagine doing that? 1:53:04.680 --> 1:53:07.439 Like training your focus like that helps you in so 1:53:07.520 --> 1:53:10.720 many other ways and to as we go through the 1:53:10.800 --> 1:53:13.760 ups and downs in life, you may be in a 1:53:13.800 --> 1:53:18.759 space where you identify success as winning a conference championship 1:53:18.800 --> 1:53:21.880 with your buddies or squatting that. And it's not that 1:53:22.160 --> 1:53:23.920 you are a bad person in that time where you 1:53:23.960 --> 1:53:25.120 were selfish or egoic. 1:53:25.439 --> 1:53:27.519 It's just in that moment in time. 1:53:27.479 --> 1:53:31.240 You were crafting that side that makes the whole image 1:53:31.240 --> 1:53:33.320 of who you are the whole, you know, It's just 1:53:33.520 --> 1:53:35.760 it's like one lego piece. It's like Jenga, you know 1:53:35.800 --> 1:53:37.720 what I mean. It's like that one piece. You just 1:53:37.760 --> 1:53:40.280 slid that in and then the next phase. Now you're 1:53:40.320 --> 1:53:42.680 working on your family, that's the next you know, the 1:53:42.960 --> 1:53:45.720 way you identify with success. And then once you kind 1:53:45.720 --> 1:53:48.559 of get that slide in, it's always a continuing work. 1:53:48.560 --> 1:53:50.479 You're always going to be doing, you know, construction on 1:53:50.560 --> 1:53:54.160 those areas that you've built. But you know, every piece 1:53:54.240 --> 1:53:58.720 is for specific times. So like I would never identify 1:53:58.840 --> 1:54:01.160 or look at different place the spaces in life where 1:54:01.200 --> 1:54:03.879 I was as if I was over consumed of anything. 1:54:04.160 --> 1:54:06.599 It's like, no, I was exactly where I wanted needed 1:54:06.680 --> 1:54:09.479 to be in that time because I was crafting who 1:54:09.520 --> 1:54:11.800 I am. If I wasn't, if you weren't who you 1:54:11.840 --> 1:54:14.559 were at that time, over consuming like the football shit, 1:54:15.120 --> 1:54:17.040 you probably wouldn't even be here right now. 1:54:17.080 --> 1:54:20.599 You No, I agree, I do agree with that hardly, 1:54:20.680 --> 1:54:24.959 because well, even from in terms of like program development 1:54:25.000 --> 1:54:26.840 with like working out and shit like that, it's like 1:54:27.200 --> 1:54:29.320 we can talk about what would be best for our 1:54:29.360 --> 1:54:34.520 bodies now, but back then, the programs we were doing 1:54:35.320 --> 1:54:38.600 what whatever, whatever thoughts and methodologies are out there about them, 1:54:39.040 --> 1:54:41.200 were needed because of the cultural stuff that's going on 1:54:41.280 --> 1:54:43.440 around the program as well, you know what I'm saying, 1:54:43.520 --> 1:54:46.400 Like you're just we were in such a phase of 1:54:46.440 --> 1:54:49.640 like learning about our own culture and how to create 1:54:49.640 --> 1:54:52.600 like leadership teammate. Like we talk about stuff now like, man, 1:54:52.680 --> 1:54:55.480 these these schools get this off the kids, blah blah blah. 1:54:55.480 --> 1:54:59.360 Like you know, I'm fucking jumping everywhere now, But I 1:54:59.400 --> 1:55:00.760 agree with you that. 1:55:00.880 --> 1:55:02.280 I needed all that stuff back then. 1:55:02.320 --> 1:55:04.520 I feel like it helped kind of create I mean, 1:55:04.560 --> 1:55:06.960 it has helped create who I am now. And I 1:55:06.960 --> 1:55:08.680 think like all of this one's like if you're sitting 1:55:08.720 --> 1:55:12.720 there watching, if you're sitting here watching or listening wherever, 1:55:12.760 --> 1:55:14.400 get your podcast subscriberate five stars. 1:55:17.200 --> 1:55:19.879 It's however you take. 1:55:19.720 --> 1:55:23.200 This in the thought, isn't compare where you're at to 1:55:23.240 --> 1:55:25.880 where you need to be, to where to where you 1:55:25.880 --> 1:55:28.760 should be, to where you have been to where somebody 1:55:28.760 --> 1:55:30.640 else is, or so and so is right, or this 1:55:30.760 --> 1:55:33.760 that the other doesn't matter. What matters is like if 1:55:33.760 --> 1:55:36.200 you want to make a choice to change where you're 1:55:36.240 --> 1:55:37.920 at now, you know what I mean, Like, it's not 1:55:38.120 --> 1:55:40.600 like you can sit there and be like, yeah, that 1:55:40.760 --> 1:55:42.880 is who I was and literally from this moment walking 1:55:42.920 --> 1:55:44.280 out the door, if we wanted to change something else 1:55:44.280 --> 1:55:47.440 about ourselves, we can become that person by building habits 1:55:47.440 --> 1:55:50.680 toward whatever we're thinking. So all all to go back 1:55:50.720 --> 1:55:53.160 to your question of like, how what was it? How 1:55:53.160 --> 1:55:56.400 do you separate separating? Do you think you can do you. 1:55:56.360 --> 1:56:00.000 Think is necessary to separate what makes money for you 1:56:00.200 --> 1:56:04.320 from what makes you happy on like a general you 1:56:04.360 --> 1:56:06.280 know level, because you, like you said, we're we're kind 1:56:06.280 --> 1:56:09.520 of anomalies in a sense, right, people who are who 1:56:09.600 --> 1:56:12.560 did do or are doing the things that they love 1:56:12.680 --> 1:56:14.840 and since they were kids playing football, you know, and 1:56:14.840 --> 1:56:16.920 it also makes money for them. But if we're not 1:56:17.080 --> 1:56:20.160 the you know, we're not the majority, right And in 1:56:20.160 --> 1:56:23.760 that aspect, So do you think it's healthy for people 1:56:23.800 --> 1:56:25.640 to kind of get in the mindset of like, let 1:56:25.640 --> 1:56:28.720 me separate what's making money for me from what actually 1:56:28.720 --> 1:56:30.320 makes me happy, right. 1:56:30.400 --> 1:56:30.800 And I do. 1:56:30.880 --> 1:56:32.400 I think that's such a one on one question for 1:56:32.440 --> 1:56:34.360 yourself because at the end of the day, like when 1:56:34.360 --> 1:56:36.840 we say nobody cares, we're harder, nobody sleeping on your 1:56:36.880 --> 1:56:38.840 pillow night, like no one's going to save you. Like 1:56:38.880 --> 1:56:40.880 another one, like it's a when you realize it's a 1:56:40.880 --> 1:56:43.720 one player game, like I got that one from Mike 1:56:43.720 --> 1:56:47.280 Sutt shout out Mike stud when you realize it's a 1:56:47.280 --> 1:56:50.480 one player game, Like you know, it's it's what you 1:56:50.560 --> 1:56:52.720 want out of life, man, Like it's hard for us 1:56:52.760 --> 1:56:55.400 to answer that for people, but I mean, we give 1:56:55.440 --> 1:56:57.920 our perspectives, but it's like you do with a grain 1:56:57.960 --> 1:57:01.640 of salt, because you know, we're kind of in the 1:57:01.640 --> 1:57:04.760 spot we're in now we interrupt this episode the shout 1:57:04.800 --> 1:57:07.240 out the boys over at sport Clips. Shout out sport Clips, 1:57:07.240 --> 1:57:09.640 no free shoutouts. You know what I found out, boys, 1:57:10.560 --> 1:57:13.720 There are two types of towels used in haircuts. 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Visit sport clips 1:57:51.080 --> 1:57:55.400 dot com today to find a sport Clips in your neighborhood. 1:57:55.840 --> 1:57:58.520 JP, What do you think, Jack? You got? I mean, JP, 1:57:58.760 --> 1:58:01.760 I feel like, is then the shit? You know? This 1:58:01.800 --> 1:58:03.120 is how you make money? Yeah? 1:58:03.840 --> 1:58:05.520 Yeah, I mean it is what I love. 1:58:05.680 --> 1:58:08.120 But I do think it's so much easier for us 1:58:08.160 --> 1:58:10.879 for our generation than it was like our parents' generation. 1:58:11.640 --> 1:58:13.880 They didn't have as much of an opportunity. For my 1:58:14.000 --> 1:58:17.040 entrepreneur side, there wasn't as much money going around. So 1:58:17.160 --> 1:58:20.040 my dad he's doing a job that he doesn't love. 1:58:20.560 --> 1:58:23.240 But it came down to the point where like, hey, 1:58:23.280 --> 1:58:24.920 do I want to support my family or do I 1:58:24.960 --> 1:58:27.880 want to chase my dream in which I wouldn't be 1:58:27.920 --> 1:58:30.600 able to give my family the life I think they deserve. 1:58:31.200 --> 1:58:34.360 And so I think now like we sort of do 1:58:34.400 --> 1:58:37.800 a disservice if we don't chase our passions and dreams 1:58:37.840 --> 1:58:42.200 because the people before us, depending on your situation, created 1:58:42.200 --> 1:58:44.880 the opportunity for us to do to chase our passion 1:58:44.880 --> 1:58:45.720 because they couldn't. 1:58:46.400 --> 1:58:47.080 So that's kind of. 1:58:47.080 --> 1:58:49.400 Where I a good point that. 1:58:50.840 --> 1:58:55.200 Well, So given that example, they sacrifice maybe what they 1:58:55.200 --> 1:58:59.120 wanted to do for the later, what are we sacrificing? Like, 1:58:59.160 --> 1:59:01.880 what what's one thing that we can pinpoint? It's like, okay, 1:59:01.920 --> 1:59:03.080 we're sacrifice. 1:59:02.760 --> 1:59:05.440 That kind of defines our generations going to set. 1:59:05.280 --> 1:59:06.160 Up the next generation? 1:59:06.280 --> 1:59:08.720 Can you identify with anything that you feel like, Yo, 1:59:08.800 --> 1:59:11.320 this is a sacrifice that if I had my way 1:59:11.320 --> 1:59:13.120 would be different, but I'm doing it for the greater good? 1:59:13.160 --> 1:59:15.160 What is that? What is that sacrifice? 1:59:15.200 --> 1:59:16.920 Our own personal sacrifice for them? 1:59:16.960 --> 1:59:19.080 Because we're all like millennials in here, like what what 1:59:19.160 --> 1:59:20.560 are we sacrificing? 1:59:21.760 --> 1:59:26.720 I think there's more blueprints and outlets that allow to 1:59:27.640 --> 1:59:30.880 like tap in. I mean there's so much there's so 1:59:30.960 --> 1:59:33.600 many resources now, you know what I mean, Like, it's 1:59:33.640 --> 1:59:35.640 not about how many resources you have, it's about how 1:59:35.720 --> 1:59:37.400 resource well you can be with what you do have 1:59:37.600 --> 1:59:40.720 you know what I mean, Like, like we we've all gotten, 1:59:41.320 --> 1:59:43.600 we've all had to go through sacrifice and certain like 1:59:44.800 --> 1:59:47.520 you know, muddy waters to get to where we are. 1:59:47.600 --> 1:59:48.960 It's not like you don't want to you don't want 1:59:49.000 --> 1:59:50.680 to create a life to where nobody's not having to 1:59:50.720 --> 1:59:53.560 go through sacrifice. But I you know, I think one 1:59:53.720 --> 1:59:57.600 one thing we're doing is taking the stuff we've learned 1:59:58.400 --> 2:00:03.200 and continuing create more access to people. I don't know 2:00:03.200 --> 2:00:07.640 if that makes sense, but makes sense to me. It's like, 2:00:07.720 --> 2:00:09.840 you know, back in the day, it was just books, right, 2:00:09.880 --> 2:00:12.560 and then the internet comes. Now you got there were 2:00:12.600 --> 2:00:15.720 a few podcasts. Now there's many podcasts, Like there's so 2:00:15.880 --> 2:00:20.320 many avenues of like it's again, it's sitting with yourself. 2:00:21.920 --> 2:00:23.680 It's it's it's sitting with yourself. 2:00:23.800 --> 2:00:26.200 Like the conversation you have with yourself is the most 2:00:26.240 --> 2:00:28.560 important conversation you can have, because that's how you figure out, 2:00:28.600 --> 2:00:31.800 like you know, the wiser decisions, the decisions that you 2:00:31.880 --> 2:00:34.920 ultimately want, and the resource. Again, the resources are out there, 2:00:34.960 --> 2:00:38.360 so but that's a it's a fucking deep question, like what. 2:00:38.320 --> 2:00:41.400 Are we giving I don't fucking know neither. 2:00:41.960 --> 2:00:44.080 I feel like for me, It's just like all the 2:00:44.120 --> 2:00:47.480 experiences I've had and the consciousness I've been able to have, 2:00:47.640 --> 2:00:51.040 like within learning the things from the from what I 2:00:51.200 --> 2:00:53.520 sponged in high school, from what I got to sponge 2:00:53.520 --> 2:00:55.880 in college, from when I got to sponge around all 2:00:55.920 --> 2:00:58.440 my friendships, from when I got to sponge from my mentors, 2:00:58.480 --> 2:01:01.240 from the pros, from how my mind started to shift 2:01:01.280 --> 2:01:05.400 in balancing both football and life outside of football, and 2:01:05.440 --> 2:01:07.200 taking all of that and now being able to do 2:01:07.280 --> 2:01:11.520 it in a unique way through microphones and you know, 2:01:11.560 --> 2:01:13.360 giving it to people, giving access. 2:01:13.040 --> 2:01:16.360 To people to what before there wasn't a lot of 2:01:16.360 --> 2:01:18.000 access to, like athletes like we have now. 2:01:18.360 --> 2:01:20.320 If I can be some kind of avenue, one of 2:01:20.360 --> 2:01:22.960 the few avenues that allow that and people get something 2:01:22.960 --> 2:01:25.720 out of it, I feel like that's you know, service 2:01:25.760 --> 2:01:26.280 in itself. 2:01:26.440 --> 2:01:28.480 I'll say this going back to what you said with 2:01:28.520 --> 2:01:31.240 the generation before, so was that Generation X whatever that 2:01:31.440 --> 2:01:36.000 was or whatever you know them kind of maybe sacrificing 2:01:36.880 --> 2:01:41.600 not doing what they love to provide for their families. 2:01:42.000 --> 2:01:45.640 I would say something, I guess we inherited from the 2:01:45.720 --> 2:01:50.960 residual opportunity to go to college or whatever we inherited 2:01:51.000 --> 2:01:54.480 from that generation. I say, what we are passing down 2:01:55.240 --> 2:02:00.160 is the power of choice, because we do have a 2:02:00.320 --> 2:02:04.680 generation of people of entrepreneurs, millennials, people who don't have 2:02:04.760 --> 2:02:10.440 to necessarily sacrifice for the family to provide and to 2:02:10.520 --> 2:02:12.640 also love what they do. Let me say that over, 2:02:12.840 --> 2:02:15.160 they don't you don't have to sacrifice what you love 2:02:15.240 --> 2:02:17.160 to do to provide for your family. A lot of 2:02:17.200 --> 2:02:19.320 people are actually doing what they love and you know, 2:02:19.360 --> 2:02:21.680 also providing for their family. And I think what that 2:02:21.720 --> 2:02:24.360 creates for the next generation was a generation Z or 2:02:25.080 --> 2:02:28.760 Y or T where they own. By now generation Z 2:02:29.360 --> 2:02:31.520 is I do see a lot of kids who are 2:02:31.600 --> 2:02:36.520 leading like a lot of campaigns and choice to evoke 2:02:36.680 --> 2:02:39.680 change and you know, things that are really really important. 2:02:39.680 --> 2:02:42.280 So I think, like, I guess what we're passing down 2:02:42.560 --> 2:02:45.960 is the power of choice, saying like, you don't this 2:02:46.000 --> 2:02:48.280 system done not to always be like this if you 2:02:48.280 --> 2:02:50.200 don't want it to be just like you said when 2:02:50.200 --> 2:02:52.880 you you know, like, just like you said, when we 2:02:52.960 --> 2:02:55.200 leave here, we can choose to be a completely different 2:02:55.240 --> 2:02:58.320 person if we want to. And I think that mindset 2:02:58.480 --> 2:03:03.320 was not as unally understood just thirty three years ago, right, you. 2:03:03.240 --> 2:03:06.480 Know, that is why you get some pushbacks sometimes from 2:03:06.520 --> 2:03:08.880 the older generation. It's like, oh, y'all don't get it, 2:03:08.920 --> 2:03:11.840 y'all don't get the sacrifice. Well, the sacrifice is just 2:03:11.880 --> 2:03:15.680 a little different different. That was well said, though, before 2:03:15.680 --> 2:03:17.360 we get off here, because it's been a long fucking pod. 2:03:18.320 --> 2:03:20.360 Been a banger, by the way, subscriber, if starts wherever 2:03:20.360 --> 2:03:25.680 you get your podcast, I do. I I disagree with 2:03:25.920 --> 2:03:29.200 you can only focus on one thing at a time. Yeah, 2:03:29.320 --> 2:03:30.960 I disagree with what you're saying that I can't. 2:03:31.120 --> 2:03:32.800 I can't focus on one thing. What I was saying 2:03:32.880 --> 2:03:36.440 is like to get the full which and. 2:03:36.520 --> 2:03:38.240 This is just between me and you. This is just 2:03:38.360 --> 2:03:40.160 I'm just saying this for me to you. I'm not 2:03:40.160 --> 2:03:44.880 saying like, yeah, somebody are you saying I get I 2:03:44.920 --> 2:03:47.960 feel like some of the to me when I think 2:03:47.960 --> 2:03:50.320 about this is my own personal This is my own person. 2:03:50.400 --> 2:03:52.520 Somebody might be different. Some people my name. To operate 2:03:52.560 --> 2:03:55.440 on one thing at a time, yeah, but uh, don't don't. 2:03:55.600 --> 2:03:57.880 Don't worry about a plan B because it deteriorates from 2:03:57.920 --> 2:04:00.400 Plan A. And I'm not as much of leaving that 2:04:00.400 --> 2:04:03.520 as I used to be, just because I feel like 2:04:04.320 --> 2:04:08.320 the way my journey's been in the recent years, is 2:04:08.480 --> 2:04:10.400 I was figuring I was focusing on a plan B. 2:04:10.640 --> 2:04:11.680 Just you got creative. 2:04:11.680 --> 2:04:14.960 I you juggle both ball, you juggle being a professional 2:04:15.320 --> 2:04:19.320 one percent of the one percent. And also you're building 2:04:19.320 --> 2:04:22.560 a brand like you're being an entrepreneur. So like it's 2:04:22.800 --> 2:04:26.879 it's ultimately comes down to prioritizing and how you spend 2:04:26.920 --> 2:04:28.760 I guess your days, you know what I'm saying. 2:04:28.800 --> 2:04:30.440 No, I get that some people list saying do need 2:04:30.480 --> 2:04:31.240 to focus on one thing. 2:04:31.240 --> 2:04:31.960 I do agree with that. 2:04:32.040 --> 2:04:34.480 I do agree with that, And I like that you 2:04:34.520 --> 2:04:36.920 put that where you're saying you can focus on plan B, 2:04:37.080 --> 2:04:38.960 because you hear that all the time, especially when it 2:04:39.000 --> 2:04:39.800 comes to athletes. 2:04:39.960 --> 2:04:41.160 Correct where they're saying, like. 2:04:41.400 --> 2:04:43.680 Focus on school first, you know all that stuff like 2:04:43.960 --> 2:04:45.160 football should be your Plan B. 2:04:45.320 --> 2:04:47.040 I always say that, But I'm just like, no, like. 2:04:47.560 --> 2:04:50.640 The student code until you getting the team meeting. Man, 2:04:50.760 --> 2:04:56.680 it's hey, hey, student athletes, you are say you are 2:04:56.800 --> 2:04:57.760 student athletes? 2:04:57.800 --> 2:04:58.640 You know what I mean? Yeah? 2:04:58.840 --> 2:04:59.440 Right for real? 2:04:59.640 --> 2:05:02.040 You know? But now I definitely agree. I agree that 2:05:02.680 --> 2:05:05.440 because I do a multitude of things myself, and I 2:05:05.640 --> 2:05:09.840 enjoy it because fundamentally I'm the same person in all 2:05:09.920 --> 2:05:12.280 of those things. They all are different strokes of my 2:05:12.360 --> 2:05:14.440 you know, my paint brush, but they're all coming from 2:05:14.440 --> 2:05:17.520 the same fundamental idea of I like to teach people. 2:05:18.040 --> 2:05:20.200 I think I'm a teacher in life, and no matter 2:05:20.240 --> 2:05:25.000 if I'm playing football or shooting someone or writing a script, 2:05:25.320 --> 2:05:28.240 I'm thinking about teaching. And I think it comes down 2:05:28.280 --> 2:05:31.680 to when you ask that great question, that meanion dollar question, 2:05:31.760 --> 2:05:36.280 how do you define success? What is your common denominator 2:05:36.320 --> 2:05:38.720 that you see in everything that you do in life? 2:05:39.240 --> 2:05:42.080 You know, when you're a father, what do you see 2:05:42.280 --> 2:05:44.560 when you're doing bustling with the boys. What do you 2:05:44.600 --> 2:05:46.600 see when you're a husband? What do you see when 2:05:46.640 --> 2:05:48.760 you play football? What do you see? What do all 2:05:48.800 --> 2:05:51.880 those things have in common? What's the common denominator? And 2:05:51.920 --> 2:05:55.000 that success? I'm the same person integrity. 2:05:54.680 --> 2:05:58.160 And that's you Like, that's like your unique ability, unique 2:05:58.240 --> 2:06:00.120 ability as a person, like when you can operate it 2:06:00.200 --> 2:06:03.920 in your just whatever unique ability is, Like, I feel 2:06:03.960 --> 2:06:05.280 like you get a lot of freedom out of that 2:06:06.240 --> 2:06:09.400 real spects. Hey, that was solid, bro, solid? 2:06:10.880 --> 2:06:11.640 Is there anything else? 2:06:11.880 --> 2:06:16.120 No, I'm good man, listen, is some Oh. 2:06:15.960 --> 2:06:17.000 You're you're supposed to play? 2:06:17.000 --> 2:06:18.840 You were gonna you were gonna Also disagree with the 2:06:19.280 --> 2:06:20.160 doing two things at once. 2:06:20.200 --> 2:06:21.080 What were you gonna. 2:06:20.880 --> 2:06:27.240 Say, Yeah, yeah, obviously, yeah, yeah, okay cool. 2:06:27.320 --> 2:06:30.640 What I was saying earlier is a lot of times 2:06:30.640 --> 2:06:34.160 to be like fully successful in the sense of I 2:06:34.240 --> 2:06:37.880 see success of just like Kobe Bryant type of like 2:06:38.720 --> 2:06:42.640 mentality of focus. Yeah, you gotta focus on one thing. 2:06:42.720 --> 2:06:46.200 Gotta that means like the actual actions. Now that's not 2:06:46.280 --> 2:06:48.840 like your whole big scheme of things. Because even Kobe 2:06:48.880 --> 2:06:51.040 was getting oscars and ship, he was doing other ship, 2:06:51.320 --> 2:06:55.240 but when it came to basketball and he's practicing, he's 2:06:55.280 --> 2:06:58.560 focusing on one thing that day. That That's what I've 2:06:58.600 --> 2:07:00.480 been doing. I go in one day and I'm like, 2:07:00.640 --> 2:07:02.440 I'm focusing on finishing my runs. 2:07:02.680 --> 2:07:03.120 That's it. 2:07:03.520 --> 2:07:06.280 I'm not focusing on all I gotta do this, just 2:07:06.360 --> 2:07:08.360 got do that all these multitude of things. It's like 2:07:08.400 --> 2:07:13.240 today is about finishing runs. Tomorrow like it's about blocking, 2:07:13.480 --> 2:07:15.720 you know what I mean. The next day it's about 2:07:15.800 --> 2:07:17.760 if I want to take my game to the next level, 2:07:17.760 --> 2:07:20.600 I'm trying to catch everything one handed in practice today 2:07:20.800 --> 2:07:23.200 they're focused on one thing, and I think that's how 2:07:23.240 --> 2:07:24.400 you sharpen your skills. 2:07:24.760 --> 2:07:25.840 Bruce Lee said this too. 2:07:25.880 --> 2:07:27.920 I keep, you know, taking from Bruce Lee, he didn't 2:07:27.920 --> 2:07:30.360 fear the man that could do a thousand kicks. He 2:07:30.400 --> 2:07:32.520 feared the guy who's gonna do one kick, who did 2:07:32.520 --> 2:07:35.000 a one kick a thousand times, because you know that 2:07:35.040 --> 2:07:37.200 one kick is going to knock your ass out. But 2:07:37.240 --> 2:07:39.160 if you do a whole bunch of kicks, you never 2:07:39.280 --> 2:07:41.160 really mastered any of those kicks. You just did a 2:07:41.160 --> 2:07:44.480 bunch of kicks. But you got one straight kick to 2:07:44.520 --> 2:07:47.160 the chest that you've done a thousand times. That's all 2:07:47.200 --> 2:07:50.920 you need. That's all you need. So and I think 2:07:51.040 --> 2:07:53.960 that's how you really like become successful. It's like focus 2:07:54.000 --> 2:07:57.120 on that one thing every day definitely, you know, type 2:07:57.120 --> 2:07:57.440 into that. 2:07:57.720 --> 2:08:00.880 Yes, now I'm going to you you you spoke some 2:08:00.920 --> 2:08:01.880 wisdom on today's spot. 2:08:02.080 --> 2:08:03.560 Man, That's what I came for. 2:08:04.160 --> 2:08:05.080 I'm very thankful for. 2:08:05.240 --> 2:08:07.520 I'm thankful, bro, It's been a long time coming. I'm 2:08:07.520 --> 2:08:10.440 glad that I can join this aura. I think you 2:08:10.480 --> 2:08:12.920 guys got a beautiful thing going. Man. I would love 2:08:12.960 --> 2:08:15.600 to definitely aymn like and White you could still be 2:08:15.640 --> 2:08:16.000 a thing. 2:08:16.400 --> 2:08:18.440 You can still be a thing, man. But nah, I'm 2:08:18.480 --> 2:08:19.360 mad Taylor wasn't here. 2:08:19.360 --> 2:08:19.480 Man. 2:08:19.480 --> 2:08:21.680 I had a couple questions for him, bro, But it 2:08:21.720 --> 2:08:22.160 is what it is. 2:08:22.160 --> 2:08:22.560 I catch you. 2:08:22.640 --> 2:08:24.680 Maybe I'll come back in those days when when I 2:08:24.720 --> 2:08:26.600 when I'm one of my show drops, when my show 2:08:26.680 --> 2:08:28.240 drops in this entire different space. 2:08:28.280 --> 2:08:28.920 Yeah, I'll tell you what. 2:08:29.000 --> 2:08:31.560 Whenever you got things like dropping and stuff like that's 2:08:31.720 --> 2:08:32.600 you know, you gotta go on the. 2:08:32.520 --> 2:08:34.160 PR That's what it is. 2:08:34.200 --> 2:08:35.680 You know what I mean, like come back. 2:08:35.520 --> 2:08:37.760 Like you might not understand that, but you gotta go 2:08:37.800 --> 2:08:38.720 on PR runs. 2:08:39.320 --> 2:08:40.000 What does that mean? 2:08:40.240 --> 2:08:42.680 I mean you gotta you gotta start saturating your stuff 2:08:42.720 --> 2:08:44.760 on a lot of different shows, on like a tour. 2:08:44.960 --> 2:08:46.960 That's that's why I gotta get better at it because 2:08:47.000 --> 2:08:49.640 I am naturally like I can talk to people, but 2:08:49.680 --> 2:08:52.520 I'm naturally kind of introverted. And that's probably why he's like, 2:08:52.520 --> 2:08:53.920 you don't drop you in the group chat. I'm like, 2:08:53.920 --> 2:08:55.840 I'm kind of introverted. Why I keep things closed to 2:08:55.840 --> 2:08:58.280 the chest. Yeah, And that's something I need to break 2:08:58.280 --> 2:09:00.440 out of more. But I see you guys do a 2:09:00.480 --> 2:09:03.520 really good job, like, you know, saturating in a good way. 2:09:03.600 --> 2:09:06.040 You guys just content, you know. 2:09:05.720 --> 2:09:07.760 We appreciate that. Let's shout out to all the boys 2:09:07.760 --> 2:09:08.120 back there. 2:09:08.680 --> 2:09:10.440 You got some apparel I can take with me, you know, 2:09:11.120 --> 2:09:14.120 take one of these pillows not in the box. 2:09:14.200 --> 2:09:17.440 Yeah, I'll send you a box. Okay, cool, cool cool, 2:09:17.560 --> 2:09:18.960 We know how I am with mailing stuff. 2:09:18.960 --> 2:09:20.320 I gotta get to a flight. 2:09:20.400 --> 2:09:21.600 So what time your flight? 2:09:21.840 --> 2:09:23.880 Five forty six, So let me get up out of here. 2:09:24.040 --> 2:09:24.760 Three thirty two. 2:09:24.840 --> 2:09:27.440 Yeah you got a roll. Yeah, I appreciate you coming on. 2:09:27.520 --> 2:09:27.720 Brother. 2:09:28.200 --> 2:09:28.840 Hey, I love you. 2:09:28.920 --> 2:09:30.240 I love you too, bro Ah. 2:09:31.360 --> 2:09:33.520 Hopefully Nebraska fans will love it. I know that not. 2:09:33.560 --> 2:09:35.080 They're gonna love this ship. They're gonna love it.