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Speaker 1: of ball, great weekend of college football, great weekend of
Speaker 1: NFL football. We have the bowl selection stuff we can
Speaker 1: dive into. That's the thing. That's the thing, Alex. We
Speaker 1: can talk about bowl games that we picked. Some bowl
Speaker 1: games are set up because again Nebraska's out of it
Speaker 1: calls fade' is paide. I do think everyone now knows,
Speaker 1: looking back throughout the entirety of the year that it's
Speaker 1: like Damn Will, He's so emotionally involved and attached. He's biased.
Speaker 1: Of course when it comes to Nebraska. It's tough to
Speaker 1: watch him think that a three to nine team is
Speaker 1: one of the better teams in college football. However, I
Speaker 1: do think people are like, but you gotta admit the
Speaker 1: boys not crazy for saying that the greatest three win
Speaker 1: team of all time.
Speaker 2: The date is out there, the stats are out there.
Speaker 1: This is the single handedly greatest three win football team
Speaker 1: you guys will ever witness, and unfortunately they won't be
Speaker 1: talked about.
Speaker 2: But I do think we have put a.
Speaker 1: Flag in the ground and from here on out this
Speaker 1: year will be known as the greatest three win team
Speaker 1: of all time courtesy of Bust with the Boys, because
Speaker 1: all of the shouting and everything was right here, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. No matter how Nebraska does for
Speaker 1: the entirety of our lifetimes, people will think back and
Speaker 1: be like, remember when Kamp was like, was right about
Speaker 1: the three win football team. Tough to watch them think
Speaker 1: that three win full team was a good football team.
Speaker 1: But the man wasn't crazy. Well I don't even know
Speaker 1: what I was saying. I wanted to get that off
Speaker 1: my chest. But knowing that Nebraska is out of it,
Speaker 1: it is a we're still at war. It just moves
Speaker 1: from Nebraska to now we're in the Big Ten. It
Speaker 1: is war between the Big Ten and the SEC, just
Speaker 1: like it is every year. They think we're inferior. We
Speaker 1: think they're inferior. If we got a lot of laughing
Speaker 1: going on back here and Jack Jackie boy, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sell you right now, Tennessee might take a few strays
Speaker 1: in this conversation that we have nothing.
Speaker 2: Hey, hang on, I haven't said nothing yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get pressed over Twitter mentions because I think this
Speaker 3: is coming from Twitter right because I saw some Tennessee
Speaker 3: fans today Where it's coming.
Speaker 1: It's coming from my workout this morning. I'll say I
Speaker 1: was working on a boost. Coop was getting me riled up.
Speaker 1: My trainer, Coop and my boy Spencer Puolly who played
Speaker 1: at Vanderbilt, a very slowly respected football program.
Speaker 2: Those dudes are firing me up. And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to it in a minute.
Speaker 1: I just want to get out in front of that
Speaker 1: because I do have love for Tennessee Valls fans out there.
Speaker 1: But what I was saying about it being war with
Speaker 1: the Big ten our team. If you're a part of
Speaker 1: any Big ten football team, any Big ten city that
Speaker 1: you live in, any team that you shout on the
Speaker 1: mountaintops for your team in the Big Ten, whether you're
Speaker 1: a Wisconsin fan, Iowa fan, we put a our swords
Speaker 1: down now because we all need to be rooting for
Speaker 1: each other in boldseason and this BCS title game because
Speaker 1: we got the boys in Michigan, the Boys in Blue,
Speaker 1: they're in the tournament. We need them to win. If
Speaker 1: you're a Nebraska fan thinking I'm crazy, we need Michigan
Speaker 1: to be the national champions because we only lost those
Speaker 1: motherfuckers by three and we need that. We need that
Speaker 1: to help our cause to continue to be the greatest
Speaker 1: three win team of all time. But my problem, and
Speaker 1: you guys saw me tweet it right when I woke up,
Speaker 1: right when I woke up, and I looked at Twitter,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest, I'm truly I was baffled
Speaker 1: when I saw Alabama jumped Michigan in the rankings to
Speaker 1: become the number one team in the College Ball Playoff.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think I'm crazy for like being baffled?
Speaker 2: Like? Is that? Is that not surprising that the Alabama's
Speaker 2: right number one?
Speaker 1: Here, here goes, here goes get Garrett By the way, guys,
Speaker 1: he said he's a Bama.
Speaker 2: Fan, so it could get it could get physical.
Speaker 4: To be honest, do I didn't even need to speak
Speaker 4: then if it if it's gonna get no, no, I
Speaker 4: want to hear.
Speaker 2: I want to hear what you think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, what did Jelly say? I got lightning in
Speaker 4: these things? You don't want to find out. I don't
Speaker 4: think it's like crazy. I mean, we did beat the
Speaker 4: number one team in the country who was supposed to
Speaker 4: dog walk us, and.
Speaker 2: That shit didn't happen. Both fair points. That's all I
Speaker 2: gotta say.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can respect that. There's there's there's there's people
Speaker 1: out there, you guys from this morning that are like,
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer because they beat the number one
Speaker 1: team in the country. Now you can argue Georgia was
Speaker 1: averaging giving up seven points a game, right, But I
Speaker 1: think what was eye opening about this whole situation is
Speaker 1: the SEC East is just a fraudulent ass division.
Speaker 2: You're playing.
Speaker 1: Well, bring up the SEC East real quick, because I
Speaker 1: know number one. I know Missoo's in there. Uh, Vanderbilts
Speaker 1: in there? You know, beloved, I listen, Tennessee fan Tennessee,
Speaker 1: fan Tennessee fan Tennessee is in there?
Speaker 2: Who else is in there? Who else is in there? Florida, Florida? Okay,
Speaker 2: Mullin fired Florida was fraud from the get go. Tucky
Speaker 2: mis Zuri cal That's right.
Speaker 1: Georgia's best win after that blowout loss is now Kentucky,
Speaker 1: a nine and three Kentucky team. You can argue, yes,
Speaker 1: it's it's a decent football team, but the way Alabama
Speaker 1: just mopped them just shows you, like, Okay, Georgia was
Speaker 1: playing all these frauds all year long.
Speaker 2: That's why they're holding these teams to seven points.
Speaker 3: I've got ties on both sides. So the reason I
Speaker 3: I just don't understand what the sec sas to do
Speaker 3: with all this stuff.
Speaker 2: Are you just talking about Georgia just yeah, number one
Speaker 2: little team?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, obviously all the people who on Twitter that
Speaker 1: we're talking like, it's just nonsense that I was thinking
Speaker 1: that Michigan should be number one. Michigan was number two.
Speaker 1: It just got done waxing Ohio State. One of the
Speaker 1: best officers in the country.
Speaker 3: Hang on, you talk talk right, one.
Speaker 1: Of the best offenses in the country, and then they
Speaker 1: take care of business against Iowa in the Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 1: Does Iowa should have Iowa even been in the Big
Speaker 1: Ten Championship? That is arguable They're not that tough of
Speaker 1: a football team. They're not that good. They don't play
Speaker 1: Oha State, they don't play these teams on the other side,
Speaker 1: like Michigan, Oha State, all these teams they play them
Speaker 1: like once.
Speaker 2: Every four years.
Speaker 1: That is arguable, But you're gonna keep the integrity of
Speaker 1: these rankings, right. If Alabama does what they do against Georgia,
Speaker 1: which they whooped their ass, they did what they needed
Speaker 1: to do, they only go to one. If the number
Speaker 1: two team, who just got done waxing Ohase State, if
Speaker 1: they don't beat Iowa like they should have beat Iowa
Speaker 1: like they did beat Iowa, then they do go up
Speaker 1: to number one. But what do you want Michigan to do?
Speaker 1: They just won forty something to three. They should be
Speaker 1: the number one football team in America. And then you
Speaker 1: you throw Georgia back to four, you have the same
Speaker 1: games I'm arguing. I'm arguing fairy tales out there. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the best team's gonna come out.
Speaker 4: Yeah so, but I mean you could also go back
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks and that just comes down to ranking, like,
Speaker 4: should have Georgia been number one this whole time?
Speaker 2: Right? And if you're gonna put Bama number one. Why
Speaker 2: don't you want Georgia average and put them at number two?
Speaker 1: Go ahead and put Bama number two if they're gonna
Speaker 1: ultimately be your number one, because it's.
Speaker 2: Just it's just that SEC bias.
Speaker 4: And then you know they're not gonna put Georgia and
Speaker 4: Alabama in the semi again, right right?
Speaker 1: I agree, it does also get but you can easily
Speaker 1: go Michigan one, Georgia four, and then Bama and lic
Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's just that s it's that bullshit
Speaker 1: SEC bias and it shat my ass.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: That loss for Michigan is the only I mean, obviously,
Speaker 3: if they took care of them, then they be number
Speaker 3: one right now for sure.
Speaker 2: But while are we comparing losses, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Obama lost to an eight and four Texas A and
Speaker 1: M team who is average at best, and the big
Speaker 1: tim Iron Bowl.
Speaker 3: So I see, at the end of the day, obviously
Speaker 3: it's the viewership everything. There's so much politics to go
Speaker 3: into it. So I'm excited for the games to come up, though, Dude,
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: Fun fired up. I'm fired up.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be uh you think since he can beat Alabama.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's uh.
Speaker 4: I think it's good that they're in there because I mean,
Speaker 4: like we're saying about the Georgia thing like they were
Speaker 4: number one, we're finding out that they're not the number
Speaker 4: one team in the country. I think it's good to
Speaker 4: see different teams in there. Again, like you're you're asking
Speaker 4: the wrong person.
Speaker 1: I know you're a Bama guy. I don't think they
Speaker 1: got it. I don't think they have a shot either.
Speaker 4: Say anything, but I think it's good to see it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's our and now it's Bama's to lose, right, and
Speaker 4: I think it's an underdog to now flopped.
Speaker 2: Dude. I was, honestly, I'm a huge knick stavement.
Speaker 1: It's nick Staban stand was rooting for Bama hard right
Speaker 1: to even win that game. But the minute they I
Speaker 1: saw them being number one, Like I want this team
Speaker 1: to fail, and it's more so because the SEC bias
Speaker 1: that goes on. It's it's just.
Speaker 4: It's just I know you saw the post game and
Speaker 4: you feed that yummy rat poison.
Speaker 2: Baby, I love that yummy rat poison.
Speaker 1: He was firing me up, talking crazy like that, dude,
Speaker 1: And I love that Cincinnati's in because I don't think
Speaker 1: they're a team that belongs in the college football playoff.
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a good example of don't
Speaker 1: put these little Are they D one?
Speaker 2: Are they a D one football team? Are they?
Speaker 1: Are they D one two? A? Oh they're D one?
Speaker 2: Hey, it's just acting crazy. Yeah, it's just acting stupid.
Speaker 1: Because once they get mopped, it's like, okay, let's let's
Speaker 1: let's not do this experiment again. Because they beat what
Speaker 1: Tulsa by seven and Navy by seven? One of them
Speaker 1: maybe they it was it was single ditch and wins
Speaker 1: against those two average football teams.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. Honestly, it's what's up
Speaker 1: your Yeah they're not there. Yeah, I I hope they
Speaker 1: get absolutely waxed by Alabama.
Speaker 2: What covers Big ten?
Speaker 1: They're trash though. My problem is this, right, I'm still
Speaker 1: I'm still talking on my points. No, no, no, not
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you're I'm not saying what you're
Speaker 1: I'm still like from the from the stands of like
Speaker 1: every SEC person, like you're South Carolina fan, you're South
Speaker 1: Carolina fan. You just ride just like Indiana or ride
Speaker 1: the coatails of some of the Big ten schools. You're
Speaker 1: in the same boat. You write coattails of Alabama and Georgia.
Speaker 2: I'm doing exactly what you're doing. Hey, everybody drop your stores.
Speaker 2: That is a great point.
Speaker 1: I got nothing to say to that, because you're you
Speaker 1: are fucking right, dude, You're just riding the coattails.
Speaker 2: I'm literally doing what you're doing, all right.
Speaker 1: I think that's all I had. That's what I had
Speaker 1: bottled up. Yeah, you's telling me. I think that's all
Speaker 1: I had was. I just wanted to argue SEC versus
Speaker 1: Big Ten.
Speaker 4: I also think I think this year is a good
Speaker 4: example of why it should expand too. Yeah, because even
Speaker 4: a two loss of how State team is a lethal team.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, it sucks that they lost.
Speaker 4: Tails, Like, there's there's a chance for it to be
Speaker 4: a fun expansion, and I.
Speaker 2: Know everybody says that every year.
Speaker 1: But just take the five winners of the Power five
Speaker 1: conferences and then do three at large teams for an
Speaker 1: eight man tournament.
Speaker 6: You could go like with like, obviously football is different
Speaker 6: than basketball, so you couldn't do like a sixty four
Speaker 6: team bracket because it's just too many games it'll take
Speaker 6: way too long. But how long do you think you
Speaker 6: could extend a season realistically for like college athletes playing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would think adding another week, like.
Speaker 7: Because it all it all equals add money.
Speaker 1: The teams that are in the playoff are taking three
Speaker 1: weeks off right now, like you can easily add in
Speaker 1: another week, do an eight man But I don't know
Speaker 1: as far as like because it is big bro, like
Speaker 1: there's so many college football teams out there. I would
Speaker 1: personally love to see four man attorneys in the conference
Speaker 1: play like two from each side, and then the winner
Speaker 1: that goes to the finals, and then that winner.
Speaker 6: Goes to like a college football playoff er So I
Speaker 6: still like baseball, does that have a regional and then
Speaker 6: they go to the like the World Series type environment.
Speaker 2: Right right right?
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Speaker 1: the boys, but also with the bowl games too, Like,
Speaker 1: what are the Big ten SEC bulls? I want to say,
Speaker 1: who's Purdue playing? Is a Perdue playing Tennessee? Yeah, that's sneaky,
Speaker 1: it's a sneaky solid game. Really, we'll have to go
Speaker 1: to that boys. It's right here in the It's right
Speaker 1: here in our backyard. I want to say, Penn State
Speaker 1: is playing Arkansas, Arkansas in the Outback Bowl. That'll be solid.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I don't know how good Arkansas is.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: Sold on the boys of pen State, but I'm hoping
Speaker 1: Penn State's winning. Dude, Penn State went like eight ots
Speaker 1: deep with Illinois. That's tough to you know, swing a
Speaker 1: sword for him. I came from Michigan. I hate that
Speaker 1: Ohio State can't play SEC team. I would have loved
Speaker 1: to seeing that. I think, Utah, that'll be a good game. God, dude,
Speaker 1: I God, I hope not. We really need to get
Speaker 1: we really need to go undefeated. The Big Ten is
Speaker 1: going defeated. I know, man, because all this stuff I'm
Speaker 1: yelling and spouting off about like I'll be getting drug
Speaker 1: football games.
Speaker 2: Let's get into the NFL. Good day of NFL games.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of last drive winners. Detroit finally
Speaker 1: won a football game, the Boys at Detroit. That was
Speaker 1: an awesome outcomes.
Speaker 2: You guys. Did anybody happen to catch that game? Dude?
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody.
Speaker 1: Golf driving making that last drive and throwing that touchdown pass.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm fired up for him. But what are
Speaker 1: we doing on defense?
Speaker 2: Boys?
Speaker 1: What are we doing on defense at the in Minnesota?
Speaker 1: Who else do we have?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 1: I love seeing the the Eagles Jets game, not because
Speaker 1: of the game itself, because Jets, but because of Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew after the game. Dude, How awesome was that? Just
Speaker 1: watching dude just be dudes, not not a communicator than
Speaker 1: just chest bumping and dapping up for five minutes straight.
Speaker 2: You go with a.
Speaker 1: Dap with the arm over in the hug and then
Speaker 1: you get a little a few distance and then for
Speaker 1: some reason it just repeats like you don't know what
Speaker 1: to say, so let's.
Speaker 2: Just do it again.
Speaker 1: The best part about that whole video is the woman
Speaker 1: the fans in the background, a gardener for the troops,
Speaker 1: signed this for the troops.
Speaker 2: He's like mid Dap.
Speaker 1: Gardner kids are over here, dude, that's the best. We
Speaker 1: need to do a skit on that, like parents trying
Speaker 1: to like.
Speaker 7: Hey, we got kids.
Speaker 2: It's not for me.
Speaker 1: It's not for me trying to show my friends, but
Speaker 1: it's for my kids. But that was a good one,
Speaker 1: Washington and the Raiders watching the boys go at it.
Speaker 1: I'm not I wasn't naming it this, but a lot
Speaker 1: of people were calling it the Compton Bowl. The boy
Speaker 1: had some a couple of jerseys out there. Now maybe
Speaker 1: it was one guy in the same photo twice, Bob,
Speaker 1: We're there's a couple. There were a couple of Compton
Speaker 1: jerseys on the stands. I can't tell if it's the
Speaker 1: distance and it's the same guy or it's two different photos,
Speaker 1: but I'm posting both of them like there's two fans
Speaker 1: out there, like it's multiples. That was a good game,
Speaker 1: though Washington is getting danger startling a four game win streak,
Speaker 1: and I know how lit that city is when when
Speaker 1: Washington is winning football, and it is a fun place
Speaker 1: to play when they're winning. God awful when they're losing.
Speaker 2: And move up to the number six. But really, I know.
Speaker 1: They're in they're they're like in the playoffs right now,
Speaker 1: right if they if the season ended today.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they jumped the Niners.
Speaker 1: A tough loss by the Niners, bloss. I know, brother,
Speaker 1: that's hard. That's hard losing the Seahawks like.
Speaker 2: That too, every time they looking good though.
Speaker 7: Oh you had a game, for sure, he had a.
Speaker 2: Game, brother, and fantasy owners out there.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then the Steelers Raven game, that one was awesome.
Speaker 1: I love how hardball went for two at the end.
Speaker 1: I know they lost and didn't get it, but what
Speaker 1: an awesome call, like, especially with that rivalry too, those
Speaker 1: whole Steeler Raven's rivalry. Love how you just put his
Speaker 1: nuts on the table. They didn't get it, but you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Both like, if you're the if you're the title, if
Speaker 1: you're the you're like, I should have had that.
Speaker 5: Because you know you can make one handed catches and
Speaker 5: then if you're Lamar in.
Speaker 7: That pocket and it collapse right then and there.
Speaker 3: But right there with you putting his nuts on the
Speaker 3: table going for two.
Speaker 2: Loved it, bro.
Speaker 1: I was fired up right before Yellowstone came on, which
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal. So you guys need to get in
Speaker 1: your life? Are you guys, Garrett? You caught up on Yellowstone?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, man, Rip is the scariest human being alive.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the New Succession yet. I'm I'm up
Speaker 1: to date. I'm not up to the date currently, but
Speaker 1: I've watched up until this past week. That's a good
Speaker 1: show too. I feel like it's drug out a little bit,
Speaker 1: though not really, bro Yellowstone is way more violent.
Speaker 4: I mean violent, but like they're also in Yellowstone other
Speaker 4: people are like fun and hellies. True, it's that same
Speaker 4: wars going on in Succession. Kids trying to take it
Speaker 4: right right.
Speaker 5: I just think Yellowstone is oh well yeah, just put
Speaker 5: it in my veins.
Speaker 2: We're not city boys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Paramount Plus is coming out with the eighteen
Speaker 1: eighty three just a red Dead Redemption spin off. Tim McGraw,
Speaker 1: did he look like he's He's acting his ass off
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: He's going to be the dad again? I know. Friday
Speaker 2: Night Lights? What happened to my lamp? Can't hold on
Speaker 2: to the lamp, can't hold on to the football. Uh?
Speaker 1: What Jake Paul rematch with Tyron Woodley? Why is Tyron
Speaker 1: Woodley get back in this Fury back out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that well, he just backed out. They said there
Speaker 9: was medical issues.
Speaker 2: I believe what are your thoughts. Yeah, you're in the
Speaker 2: fighting world, you're a fighter analyst.
Speaker 9: I don't think he actually has medical issues. I think
Speaker 9: Jake Paul would rather fight Tyron Woodley just for.
Speaker 2: The rematch and build the hype because.
Speaker 9: I think he knows he would lose to Tommy Fury
Speaker 9: and it wouldn't be a good fight. And with Woodley
Speaker 9: there's like a little bit more there.
Speaker 1: Lean up so that you can at least be in
Speaker 1: the camera and the people who are watching on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Does you don't have to stare at me when they're
Speaker 1: hearing your voice. That's JP by the way.
Speaker 9: Guys, man, I'm from I'm from South Carolina, same place
Speaker 9: as Kevin Garnett Ray Allen.
Speaker 2: Uh hey, that's a good theory. Though. Scared to lose, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you think Jake's scared to lose. He's gonna go.
Speaker 1: But I think I think Tyrone is I think Tyroann
Speaker 1: can knock him out.
Speaker 9: Tommy back, I think, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't really
Speaker 9: want this fight. Yeah, and Tyrone has the tattoo.
Speaker 6: Now that's gonna be a huge bag for Tommy and
Speaker 6: an NBA.
Speaker 9: So you can't tell me, Oh yeah, and I think
Speaker 9: he's willing to do that a lot.
Speaker 6: You know, do you not think so at to ask
Speaker 6: somebody when he's like, oh and now I know you're scared.
Speaker 2: Of me, let's fight at that point. That's true, great points,
Speaker 2: but all conversation.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, all fear he would have gotten from
Speaker 9: the fight is money, and any of these guys, that's
Speaker 9: what I'm sad think Jake Paul would give him the
Speaker 9: money anyways.
Speaker 1: What if it is a medical reason, truly, like there's
Speaker 1: an actual medical reason, just gets his shot.
Speaker 2: But yeah, if somebody was saying that there might be
Speaker 2: a third third?
Speaker 1: What fight between Tyron and Jake, like they're trying to
Speaker 1: set up a trilogy?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 4: in the fight game, but I should be. Uh No,
Speaker 4: I mean Jake Paul said if Woodley knocked him out,
Speaker 4: he'd get an extra five hundred grand. That just kind
Speaker 4: of seems like a foreshadowing to me to.
Speaker 2: Get a trilogy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, why not more money? I mean, is he gonna
Speaker 4: make more money off of Fury or Woodley?
Speaker 1: That's true, and Woodley, even if he knocks him out,
Speaker 1: Woodley will still lean into that because it's not like
Speaker 1: Woodley's gonna Woodley's and be in the actual fight game.
Speaker 1: Woodley's in it just for the bag. He's just in
Speaker 1: it for the money in the entertainment at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all good points, Yeah, all good, all good, all good.
Speaker 2: They said the first time Box.
Speaker 9: No doubt.
Speaker 2: I mean, I do hope they just go after it, because.
Speaker 1: It sucks when everybody have, like everybody has like valid
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories out there, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: you just hope that they're actually fighting for the sake
Speaker 1: of the sport, like you could always know when the
Speaker 1: where the money grabs and everything else is like with
Speaker 1: Roy Jones Junior and Mike Tyson and shit like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I hope it's that way. I hope they
Speaker 1: just get after it. I hope Tyron lets him go
Speaker 1: this time. For the love of God, Tyrone do it
Speaker 1: for Missouri. Let's get into the mirror Dula episode. So
Speaker 1: we got to sit out with a mirror back in July.
Speaker 1: We didn't we forget man, I hate that I forgot
Speaker 1: to ask him about how well in doubt he is,
Speaker 1: but he is a Mirrordula is now with the Panthers.
Speaker 1: He's now with the Vikings. Back when we did this
Speaker 1: interview in July, uh, he was with the Vikings. A
Speaker 1: mir and I go way back. We went to college
Speaker 1: together in Nebraska. Nebraska fans are gonna love this. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of Nebraska talk, a lot of good a
Speaker 1: lot of good stories. In the middle of games, we
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about coach bo I know, we
Speaker 1: were talking about when bo Is gonna come on the podcast,
Speaker 1: So I don't know what will be in there, not exactly,
Speaker 1: but Nebraska fans are gonna love this.
Speaker 2: Listen, you guys don't have a game. There's no more
Speaker 2: games to watch.
Speaker 1: So this is a great win for the state of
Speaker 1: Nebraska right now because Nebraska fans can now watch an
Speaker 1: Amir Abdullah interview on Busting with the Boys and Amir
Speaker 1: also talks about Creative House Production his his production company
Speaker 1: called Creative House. You can follow them on Instagram there
Speaker 1: on on the social media's uh. He talks in depth
Speaker 1: about that things that he's into, a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: that he's into out the field. No Mirror is a
Speaker 1: very well spoken cat He's one of those dudes that
Speaker 1: he makes you want to read, He makes you want
Speaker 1: to learn more, makes you want to be in tune
Speaker 1: with yourself more just as a person and getting better
Speaker 1: as a person. He talks very much from a stance
Speaker 1: of like, you know, he's just in a single player game,
Speaker 1: like playing against himself all the time, Like he's always
Speaker 1: trying to better himself. And he's somebody I look back
Speaker 1: on as a teammate and a good friend to where
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's somebody who mentors me indirectly, like I
Speaker 1: would never tell him to his face.
Speaker 2: I mean I would tell him to his face. But
Speaker 2: it's like one of those.
Speaker 1: Friends that like, you don't know that you're rubbing off
Speaker 1: on me because I watch you from afar and I
Speaker 1: really respect everything he's about. But you guys all like
Speaker 1: this interview a lot. And again, if you're on YouTube
Speaker 1: right now, take a moment like the boys subscribe, leave
Speaker 1: a real comment. If you're listening on audio, leave a
Speaker 1: five star review. But yeah, let's get into him. Man
Speaker 1: A Mirrabdullah, Carolina Panthers, also former Nebraska great rolling Good
Speaker 1: to go the fucking boys.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: It's gonna feel a little formal first, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I got my boy a mirrab dou law,
Speaker 1: I just said, no boys, I looked at you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're on the bus now, bro. I know it's been
Speaker 1: a long ass time. You've given me a lot of grief, respectfully.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's merited. A lot of the boys do
Speaker 1: give me grief when they haven't been that they haven't
Speaker 1: been on the bus yet. I'll tell you when it
Speaker 1: pains me the most. It was last year when we
Speaker 1: made the boxes. I sent you one though, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: because there was like a there's like a part of
Speaker 1: me that felt like like, damn.
Speaker 7: Did everyone who got a box? Were they already on
Speaker 7: the show?
Speaker 2: They were, Yeah, they were on the bus and roster. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, you know, obviously I didn't just make
Speaker 1: busting like busting boxes from my friends, but that it
Speaker 1: was starting to sink in, like I gotta get the
Speaker 1: fellas on.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it though, because it came in a time
Speaker 5: of camp where I was feeling really low. I was
Speaker 5: feeling low. You know, you kind of start losing your juice.
Speaker 5: You show up the camp, You're like, all right, I'm
Speaker 5: ready to go and you need that care package. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Asian hadn't sent me one yet. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you put me on a back burner, you put me
Speaker 5: on the front.
Speaker 2: Broh. I saw.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do those boxes because I was always
Speaker 1: the guy that never got the care packages, like people
Speaker 1: getting from their agencies from the mud off the mud
Speaker 1: with you and I would sit there and mat like, man,
Speaker 1: they get these care packages. Yeah, blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: there you know, you get the care package and your
Speaker 1: kind of said, oh, it's.
Speaker 5: My agency's but this is that. So it's like, yo,
Speaker 5: let's make a bus and care bagagees. People might be
Speaker 5: hype and be like, oh, you know my boy. Busting
Speaker 5: with the boys.
Speaker 7: Means a lot. Bro It means like y'all sending something
Speaker 7: out this.
Speaker 1: Year, we're late if we are sending them out. I
Speaker 1: just started thinking about on the honeymoon. This is so
Speaker 1: to give context. Obviously this is backlog, but I just
Speaker 1: got back from the honeymoon last night. Landed at like
Speaker 1: ten ten thirty emirs in town.
Speaker 2: Just for this.
Speaker 1: We figured it out to get him in Nashville. But
Speaker 1: I'm straight off the honeymoon. That's the first pot out
Speaker 1: outside of the honeymoon. You're obviously one of Nebraska's greatest
Speaker 1: running backs of all time. The do you think do
Speaker 1: you believe obviously we're joking when we're not joking, but
Speaker 1: also you're playing around being with that confidence, but do
Speaker 1: you think you are the greatest running back to ever
Speaker 1: laced him up in Nebraska?
Speaker 7: Ah, that's a that's a tough question.
Speaker 5: It's tough just because I feel like every generation of
Speaker 5: football is different, and I was in a generation of
Speaker 5: football where we came up in a generation of football
Speaker 5: where the running back position has really really changed.
Speaker 7: It's not really just running back anymore. It's more like
Speaker 7: a hybrid position.
Speaker 5: They split me out wide, played a lot of receiver,
Speaker 5: caught the ball a lot. The traditional iback position at
Speaker 5: Nebraska has a different definition today than what it had
Speaker 5: back when you had Microziers, Lawrence Phillips, even am On Greens.
Speaker 5: You know guys who are obviously Hall of famers in
Speaker 5: Nebraska's history. So I think it's very subjective, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. I try not to get too much
Speaker 5: into that, but I consider myself top three and I'm
Speaker 5: not two or three.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna say very I was gonna say
Speaker 1: a very well put together answer.
Speaker 2: You know, if we're sitting in the calf back and
Speaker 2: they were sitting in the Hawks.
Speaker 1: Now you say we go to the spring game next year,
Speaker 1: We're sitting there and I'm like, yo, you think you're
Speaker 1: the greatest running back of all time.
Speaker 5: And I only say that just because I move with
Speaker 5: a different intention now in life, I feel like, you
Speaker 5: gotta really speak who you want to be. You gotta
Speaker 5: really embody who you think you are. So being passive
Speaker 5: in life will only bring you mediocre things. I really
Speaker 5: believe that, you know, even if you're doing it for
Speaker 5: good intention, stuff like oh I want to be humble
Speaker 5: around these people. The universe hear's that, and it gives
Speaker 5: you back mediocrity. So like, really speaking who you are
Speaker 5: is important, and that's that's where I'm setting my intentions
Speaker 5: moving forward, Like, you gotta speak what you really want
Speaker 5: and I don't want to be mediocre. So I'm gonna
Speaker 5: say I'm the best. And it's it's not to disrespect
Speaker 5: anyone to have to say like, oh, this guy wasn't
Speaker 5: better than me. I'm sure Nebraska fans are gonna be
Speaker 5: watching this like, ah, he was good, but he's not
Speaker 5: the best, and my mom, I'm the best, and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna take that to the grave.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I meanstistically, I if we could pull
Speaker 2: some of the stats for like the Nebraska time stuff,
Speaker 2: where are you at and some of those I remember
Speaker 2: walking on the halls in your ivys at the time.
Speaker 2: If a for you.
Speaker 5: All purpose, I'm number one all time rushing yards, I'm
Speaker 5: number two, which I'm pissed because I got hurt senior
Speaker 5: year Perdue game. And then it's a couple of games
Speaker 5: I look back where we were beating the hell out
Speaker 5: of teams and they pulled me out like first half,
Speaker 5: and I'm like maybe one hundred and forty yards behind
Speaker 5: Mike Rozier, who's actually number one. And I probably would
Speaker 5: have easily gotten that if I wasn't pulled in a
Speaker 5: couple of those games, or specifically that Purdue game where
Speaker 5: I didn't, I virtually didn't play true.
Speaker 1: But you also got to think too, like I'm sure
Speaker 1: Rosie as some of those greats who are on those teams,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they were getting pulled in some of the games.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's know what I mean, that's true, especially in
Speaker 7: the nineties.
Speaker 2: They're probably getting a ate that halftime.
Speaker 5: And did Rozier go all four years? Because I went
Speaker 5: all four years even though I didn't start.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: My Nebraska history isn't that isn't that fine tuned. It
Speaker 1: is fine tune when it comes to talking like about
Speaker 1: Levonte's stats.
Speaker 2: Leonte like, I sit and talk with Rude.
Speaker 1: And uh, I'm like, it's crazy to think Levante was
Speaker 1: screeping up on Rude. And Levante was only there two years.
Speaker 1: Bookie was only there two years.
Speaker 5: I say this all the time, just suspect because favorite
Speaker 5: linebacker I've ever played with.
Speaker 7: Yo, That's why I had to disclaim to be honest.
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was gonna hurt.
Speaker 7: That twisted twist.
Speaker 2: I know only just he really is. He's a savage.
Speaker 7: Never spoke, made every play.
Speaker 5: It wasn't a time where Levante was in position to
Speaker 5: make a play that I'm like.
Speaker 7: Oh damn, he missed that play. Yeah, you're right that,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he made a play when you needed a play.
Speaker 2: He made time.
Speaker 5: I'm always thinking about that Ohio State game when we
Speaker 5: were playing Braxton Miller and Braxton Miller was on like
Speaker 5: a freshman year terror, just killing my.
Speaker 1: Jocks still at the fifty yard line. Could you can
Speaker 1: find that for sure? Sometimes we'll replay on Big Tam.
Speaker 5: I would say that's still. Braxton Miller is one of
Speaker 5: the craziest athletes I've ever seen. I know, like he
Speaker 5: had to kind of move a receiver unnatural position to
Speaker 5: him in the NFL, so things didn't work out now aspect,
Speaker 5: but college quarterbacks, Braxton Miller was crazy and he was
Speaker 5: just murdering us. We were losing like twenty four to
Speaker 5: like three right before the half.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like the most historic comeback in
Speaker 2: the brasket.
Speaker 5: Lavonte sparked that comeback. I remember he hit him lifting
Speaker 5: up because Blaxton was trying to go down, stopped him
Speaker 5: from going down, ripped the ball and recovered it, and
Speaker 5: that changed the entire momentum for the game.
Speaker 7: And I was just like, Bro, that was one of
Speaker 7: the most iconic players I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Bro, It's insane. And there's another.
Speaker 1: There's another one against we Good, there's another one against Iowa.
Speaker 1: I think about that. I think they were in they
Speaker 1: might have been an empty the tight end rent of.
Speaker 2: Stickerround, pushed Leavonte down, pushed off, Leavonte fell backwards. Dude
Speaker 2: catches the ball. He's obviously he's going up the sideline.
Speaker 1: But Levonte gets pushed down right and he throws up
Speaker 1: his He throws up his hands and like looks like
Speaker 1: looks at the ref immediately like gets up, chases old
Speaker 1: boy down, strips the ball from him and takes it
Speaker 1: from him and recovers and it's our ball. You gotta fight,
Speaker 1: you gotta When we were rolling the YouTube, we gotta
Speaker 1: find that play.
Speaker 7: Too, like that.
Speaker 1: This was my junior year, so the last game of
Speaker 1: the season. It was last game of the season. It's
Speaker 1: when I uh, that was actually a game a pivotal
Speaker 1: moment for me because it was the first time I
Speaker 1: actually stood up and spoke in front of the team.
Speaker 1: It was the night before, it was the day before
Speaker 1: that game because they were having a senior day and
Speaker 1: so I was like, that was my first time speaking.
Speaker 1: I remember that I was so nervous, my heart was
Speaker 1: in my stomach.
Speaker 5: Bro And afterwards, b k A grabb me. He's like,
Speaker 5: that's the most remember that's the most height ball.
Speaker 1: And from then I never felt like It made me
Speaker 1: feel good about actually speaking up, you know, in because you're.
Speaker 2: So nervous when you're young, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But dude, I was fortunate to have seniors like y'all
Speaker 5: around me because it gave me so much more confidence.
Speaker 5: Because when I came into Nebraska, no one thought I
Speaker 5: was going to be what I was because I was
Speaker 5: like a two star maybe three star recruit.
Speaker 7: At Alabama. You were like a last minute recruit. Like
Speaker 7: we had signed Aaron Green, who was the.
Speaker 2: Number it's like a four star running back.
Speaker 5: Five star, number two running back in the country coming
Speaker 5: out school. And then Brayland the year before. He was
Speaker 5: a late qualifier, so he was supposed to be in
Speaker 5: the class ahead of me, but he qualified, is true.
Speaker 5: I didn't, so I forgot about it with those dudes,
Speaker 5: and I just surrounded myself with you, Rex Levante from
Speaker 5: time to time, got.
Speaker 7: Rex was there, you know what I mean? Rex was there.
Speaker 2: I was just like bro' talk about like the running
Speaker 2: back room.
Speaker 7: Yeah, run room was thick, but we did.
Speaker 1: We had, uh, we had good seniors when I was
Speaker 1: a junior. I don't remember like we had good seniors
Speaker 1: when I was first there, but it was like Bo's
Speaker 1: first year there, you know what I mean, first first year,
Speaker 1: Like the whole culture is trying to get established and
Speaker 1: figured out. But yeah, Levante's senior class. I love those dudes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, bro, when you I didn't even know, I
Speaker 1: forget that you were a sophomore when I was a
Speaker 1: senior all time because.
Speaker 2: We all hung out so much.
Speaker 1: Rex was a beast man. What do you think about,
Speaker 1: like when you think of he look at you, the
Speaker 1: legacy he left in Nebraska, Like your senior year, I'll
Speaker 1: never forget this. This play right here, stopped this play right.
Speaker 2: Here McNeice, McNeice, You guys play McNee no disrespect to him,
Speaker 2: but we always like.
Speaker 7: They almost clapped us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to the Poleani era in a second two.
Speaker 1: But like there was always a game where we almost
Speaker 1: fucking lost, so we weren't supposed to lose. Like my
Speaker 1: one of my years, it was South Dakota State. This
Speaker 1: their senior year. They had you guys had all the
Speaker 1: hap in the world. Where were you ranked right here?
Speaker 7: Oh, Trey Lance, we were nineteen.
Speaker 5: It was still early in the year, but like midway
Speaker 5: through this year, we were like seven in the country. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you guys were eight no going into uh Michigan State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you guys lost like it was like last
Speaker 2: second too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this play right here, there's thirty thirty five
Speaker 1: seconds left in the game. Bro, third and six, it's
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty four and bress, you're not have
Speaker 1: won this fucking game. No, but a mere mixers play.
Speaker 1: That's like on the top ten four weeks. Crazy man, Hey,
Speaker 1: when you made when you make a play like that,
Speaker 1: like what like especially in Nebraska, like what's that? Dude?
Speaker 2: Talk about your scene year a little bit, especially moments
Speaker 2: like this when you have ninety something.
Speaker 5: Strong man, I'll go I'll go right into this play
Speaker 5: because first off, it's third and six. We had thrown
Speaker 5: a couple you know, we threw a stop route to
Speaker 5: I think Kenny before that play, and then we try
Speaker 5: to go deep to Jordan Western Camp.
Speaker 7: So it's third and six and we just called four verts,
Speaker 7: which is a horrible call. It was a horrible call.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 5: I'm just like, yo, we we can get a good
Speaker 5: play call in and just we got time we had
Speaker 5: I think we had a time out left. You know,
Speaker 5: we called for were playing giving up, giving up. They're
Speaker 5: like funk. We just lost. But my son, he just
Speaker 5: he keeps running four verse. He keeps me successful with it.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 5: So I'm not even supposed to get the ball on
Speaker 5: this I'm just running the option route underneath. And these
Speaker 5: dudes are terrible. Those dudes, they definitely should have made
Speaker 5: that play. But they definitely should have made that play.
Speaker 5: But I remember getting the ball, and when the ball
Speaker 5: was in there, I was just saying, like, why the
Speaker 5: fuck is the ball coming to me?
Speaker 7: I have like a three to five yard route.
Speaker 5: I'm not even past the sticks, and it started off
Speaker 5: very pessimistic for me. I was like, fuck, We're about
Speaker 5: to have to pump the ball back to these dudes
Speaker 5: with time left. I turned around and I see two
Speaker 5: guys just running at me out of control, so I
Speaker 5: tried to cut back in. I spun off one dude
Speaker 5: who tried to go loan on me, and at that
Speaker 5: point I was like, man, I could score.
Speaker 7: Westy threw a block for me late.
Speaker 5: But it was crazy, just the energy of the stadium
Speaker 5: after that play.
Speaker 7: I feel like a god.
Speaker 8: I felt like a god.
Speaker 5: It was the first time where I had really understood
Speaker 5: like my impact at Nebraska because the year before I'd
Speaker 5: had like a historic year. I went for like eighteen
Speaker 5: hundred yards on the ground as a junior, and I
Speaker 5: had a decision to either you know, leave a comeback.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 7: We've come back.
Speaker 5: My draft grade when I sent them, you know, they
Speaker 5: do like the projection draft grade.
Speaker 7: It was like I heard a fourth round, which is
Speaker 7: pretty high. But I was like, you.
Speaker 5: Made an announcement to come back to I made an announcement,
Speaker 5: remember here, but coming back just to love that that
Speaker 5: state showed me coming back. I really felt it that play,
Speaker 5: like they were chanting my name in the crowd after
Speaker 5: that play because I just scored a walk off, you know,
Speaker 5: win for the team against a team we definitely should
Speaker 5: have been beating.
Speaker 1: You know, so what was the But at the same time, well,
Speaker 1: because I know what goes to your head, like what's
Speaker 1: coach at the game?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, you know, Bo Bo was never even excited.
Speaker 5: We came to the sideline. Bow's face is still stone cold,
Speaker 5: just like all right, you know what I mean, thank you?
Speaker 5: But we almost He's the only thing about how I'm
Speaker 5: gonna rip this team's ass when I get in the
Speaker 5: locker room. So I come in after, you know, doing
Speaker 5: a couple of postgame interviews, and I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 7: Kind of hype. I'm like, yeah, we did that. We
Speaker 7: did that. And I come in.
Speaker 5: I have to settle my up down because I see
Speaker 5: everyone else is like quiet because bo is just like
Speaker 5: ripping their ass bow like double takes sees me comes in,
Speaker 5: He's like, you.
Speaker 7: Guys better fucking thank God.
Speaker 5: For a doulah, And I was just dying. I was
Speaker 5: just like, yo, bow crazy man dog.
Speaker 2: You know, we've talked, We've talked about before.
Speaker 1: So we we have a group chat that's went on
Speaker 1: every day since college, literally every fucking day.
Speaker 2: Care Like, how many of us are there? There's like
Speaker 2: eight or nine of us.
Speaker 5: Quincy, Toby, Kenney, Josh to Nay Gary, you me so
Speaker 5: eight eight And he was a late edition because he's
Speaker 5: a lot younger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a later edition. Were you I think?
Speaker 1: So you want a staple?
Speaker 2: I wasn't a No, I wasn't a staple. I got
Speaker 2: in fairly quick.
Speaker 1: I got into the club club quick because you guys
Speaker 1: felt like you needed an edition of You needed an
Speaker 1: edition of a couple of white guys.
Speaker 2: We need it.
Speaker 1: We needed yeah, you know what I'm saying, it was like,
Speaker 1: who's the next white guy we can get innate was
Speaker 1: the next white snake?
Speaker 2: But uh so we've had this group chat running ever.
Speaker 1: We obviously follow in Nebraska like fairly closely, like we're
Speaker 1: always keeping up with the boys. Obviously when Bo got fired,
Speaker 1: we have our group Chad, like you're like following him
Speaker 1: throughout this whole thing. Mike Riley comes through now, Scott Frost.
Speaker 1: But we've always been like vocal about our time at
Speaker 1: Nebraska and stuff. And I know one thing we talk
Speaker 1: about and we're actually gonna have bow on. Bo's coming
Speaker 1: to get on the bus next week. Actually nice, but
Speaker 1: like as phenomenal of a coach because I told when
Speaker 1: I was telling Charles, my new wife, when I was
Speaker 1: telling Charle that Bo's coming on, I was stoke for
Speaker 1: to finally meet him, because I'm like, Yo, this man
Speaker 1: legitimately shaped a lot of who I am right now,
Speaker 1: like a lot of what he taught, like a lot
Speaker 1: of his stuff, a lot of his quotes, a lot
Speaker 1: of all of it. The culture and everything I get
Speaker 1: from Bo, because you know, you're able to imprint on
Speaker 1: kids when they first get to college. And but his
Speaker 1: downfall was always in my opinion, which I will which
Speaker 1: which we will get to talk about, was his composure
Speaker 1: and like the big moment, it's in the big games.
Speaker 1: I remember when it was. It was really like standing
Speaker 1: out to me. Never when I played, because you always,
Speaker 1: you know how it was playing for Bo. You always
Speaker 1: felt like, fuck, I'm letting the squad down. I'm letting
Speaker 1: like damn, I hate It's like pissing off your dad.
Speaker 1: You never want to let your dad down. And I
Speaker 1: remember y'all were up. You guys were eight and no
Speaker 1: you're playing or eight and one, maybe playing Wisconsins. I
Speaker 1: was going to say, the same game, and y'all were up.
Speaker 1: What was it seventeen to three? Seventeen to three? And
Speaker 1: who was the running back?
Speaker 2: Are we all right? With the rain going on? And
Speaker 2: Melvin Gordon jumps over, maybe Corey cous.
Speaker 1: Gordon, Corey Cooper, We're still up and takes it to
Speaker 1: the house and it's seventeen ten, about to be halftime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Bo is just losing it on the sideline, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of my head now, like be like playing
Speaker 1: in the league a couple of years, seeing what my
Speaker 1: growth was like from coaching when like you know, not
Speaker 1: being afraid to mess up and just playing freely, like
Speaker 1: Bo's just ripping theseers. I'm like, yo, why why is
Speaker 1: he losing it on these And they're about to be
Speaker 1: up seventeen to ten on a good Wisconsin team and
Speaker 1: they need this, they need this going into the second half.
Speaker 2: But it just made me think of.
Speaker 1: All the times where we lost with some of them
Speaker 1: big games, and obviously it's not because of Bow, but
Speaker 1: you think about some of those moments and you're like, damn,
Speaker 1: Like if we would have kept our composure, like we
Speaker 1: could have probably been fine or better off in those moments.
Speaker 5: Bro, you kill the head, the body will follow. Yeah,
Speaker 5: every time. And Bow would lose his head a lot
Speaker 5: of times. And like you said, as much as the
Speaker 5: fans didn't understand this, Bowl was a leader, oh very much.
Speaker 5: So it's like his tenacity, his passion. We fed off
Speaker 5: of Bow when Bow got hype, when the defense would
Speaker 5: shut somebody out three and out that first drive, Like say,
Speaker 5: we used to always kick off first because he counted
Speaker 5: on his defense. When you guys got that first three
Speaker 5: and out and how hype he was. The offense would
Speaker 5: see that and we would set the tone for the
Speaker 5: entire game. Now, on the flip side, if you guys
Speaker 5: came out and they threw a bomb the first player
Speaker 5: and complete it, the whole energy of the team was
Speaker 5: down because Bow was already losing the ship, because our leader,
Speaker 5: the head of our group, is already falling, you know.
Speaker 5: And I feel like that's something where maybe his pro
Speaker 5: experience didn't always translate, because you know, Bow was a
Speaker 5: pro guy.
Speaker 7: You know, he coached the pros, and as a pro, you're.
Speaker 5: Expected as an independent contract, as a professional, to keep
Speaker 5: your hand no matter what you know as a player.
Speaker 7: But as college kids who are very malleable, like you said.
Speaker 5: Who are young coming from these high school atmospheres, and
Speaker 5: you see your head coach pissed off and and your
Speaker 5: view losing this faith in you. Oh man, you start
Speaker 5: playing lackluster, You start making mistakes that you would never
Speaker 5: mistake make before.
Speaker 7: Just you're like, holy shit, the fan insins hit the fan,
Speaker 7: you know right now.
Speaker 1: Like it's like a play with was like the first
Speaker 1: play of the game would be like a run and
Speaker 1: maybe the offense gets four yards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's already too fucking much, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: And this isn't like a this isn't a segment where
Speaker 1: I'm in here and we're just talking about downfalls of
Speaker 1: Bo Planer saying like this is why we weren't this
Speaker 1: and that, like you just with the maturity we've had
Speaker 1: now and you're able to think back on like how
Speaker 1: we've been coached over the years and different things.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at my man and Carl's no better
Speaker 2: Carl next to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but Bo, like you fucking loved him
Speaker 1: and he held such a high standard. But in some
Speaker 1: of those moments, like it took me going to Rex
Speaker 1: for like some of my mental were my mental actually
Speaker 1: started to take off a little better and go in
Speaker 1: the other not the other direction.
Speaker 2: No, Rex Burk And obviously you guys are on offense,
Speaker 2: so it was it's you guys.
Speaker 1: I felt like didn't have to deal as much as
Speaker 1: Bo because you guys weren't on the defensive side. But
Speaker 1: I remember like Rex would always carry himself in such
Speaker 1: a way with confidence where he would be able to
Speaker 1: move on to the next player. Nothing really ever seemed
Speaker 1: to affect us. And I remember asking him like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you have any like uh stuff? You listened to
Speaker 1: or books or anything like that that helped helps you out,
Speaker 1: like your mental and he's like, bro read Mental Edge
Speaker 1: by Kenneth Baum in that book The Mental Edge will
Speaker 1: put some link or something somewhere to go to Amazon
Speaker 1: or something like that. But the Mental Edge is literally
Speaker 1: what opened me up to the sports psychology side of
Speaker 1: everything and reading books and like using your mental as
Speaker 1: an advantage because we subconsciously and it just it just
Speaker 1: naturally happens, like you think what you think, you become
Speaker 1: like you were kind of talking.
Speaker 2: About earlier, the universe and everything like that, which we'll
Speaker 2: get into.
Speaker 1: But I'm reading this book and I'm like, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been using my head as like a disadvantage of all
Speaker 1: the time because I'm out there, I'll be on the
Speaker 1: open field. They're like starting to approach a tackle or
Speaker 1: pursue or something like that. I'm thinking, don't missus tackle
Speaker 1: because of how you might look on film to or
Speaker 1: how the might coaches talk about you in the meeting
Speaker 1: room toward then it when it carries over and they
Speaker 1: coach you up in the in the film room, and
Speaker 1: you're thinking, all, this is what the coaches think about me,
Speaker 1: this is how I'm defined in the coach's meeting room.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then like I realized, like the way my brain
Speaker 1: is going, I'm using it at such a disadvantage because
Speaker 1: of the way.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to myself. But oh, like he helped me out.
Speaker 1: That book is honestly what open my brain up to
Speaker 1: like a lot of these things outside of like learning
Speaker 1: through the process that Bo always talked.
Speaker 5: That's interesting you're talking about you know, you're talking to
Speaker 5: Rex about the mental side of things and how it
Speaker 5: can be a weapon or it could be your disadvantage,
Speaker 5: because I definitely think the very thing that empowers you
Speaker 5: in life can also devour you in life. You know,
Speaker 5: I think a lot of times it's good to know
Speaker 5: a lot, but trying to seek too much knowledge can
Speaker 5: also make you very timid, because once you know a
Speaker 5: lot of shit, you're like, well, I can't do that
Speaker 5: because I learned this, and that tells me not to
Speaker 5: do that. Well I can't, you know, I can't move
Speaker 5: this way because I can also bring me this in life,
Speaker 5: and you start overthinking everything when you know too much.
Speaker 5: Some things you got to kind of just leave up
Speaker 5: the chance. And I think that's a delicate balance kind
Speaker 5: of cycling back to Bo that sometimes he didn't let happen.
Speaker 5: He didn't allow the ebbs and flows of the game
Speaker 5: to be what they are before he made his decision.
Speaker 5: Like this is bad, you know what I mean? Things
Speaker 5: were bad just because he understood the ex's and old
Speaker 5: so much, understood his scheme so well that if one
Speaker 5: person is out of alignment, which is going to happen,
Speaker 5: every game is different.
Speaker 7: He was just on fire, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because the people who play with him, who, uh,
Speaker 1: who's the tight ends coach coach Cotton. No, not coach Cotton.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of somebody else. He had his son, he
Speaker 1: came from Bama. He was like the Mike Marrow coach
Speaker 1: Coach Marrow because he played with them at state, right,
Speaker 1: or play with him in high school with him or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: And it's just crazy because people are like, Yo, that's
Speaker 2: that's Bo.
Speaker 1: Like he's been that way even as a player, because
Speaker 1: he was always out there on the field, Like because
Speaker 1: he was a captain at Ohio State, I believe I
Speaker 1: would's dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the whole family is crazy.
Speaker 7: Bro, who's the they said the brother would be at
Speaker 7: the game.
Speaker 2: And he would be in the stands fucking swinging on
Speaker 2: fans and stuff.
Speaker 7: Bro Youngstown.
Speaker 5: They need a thirty for thirty on young Yeah in
Speaker 5: Ohio because Jim Trussell.
Speaker 7: Came from there.
Speaker 5: The Stoops brothers, Soup's brothers, Bo Polini, it's like a
Speaker 5: mobster like mentality, but they like football mob mobsters weird.
Speaker 7: They do have a thirty for thirty on it. It's
Speaker 7: called the Youngstown Boys. Oh they do okay.
Speaker 1: Hey, they just will ship like so Bo's brother, the
Speaker 1: one who was the fan that would go to the games.
Speaker 2: He wasn't Carl or Bo coaching.
Speaker 8: He was.
Speaker 1: I forget what the brother's name is. But his son Mark,
Speaker 1: Yeah it might be Mark playing. Yeah either Mark was.
Speaker 7: Because he because Mark was a junior of his dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah so Mark, ye yeah yeah ye, But his son
Speaker 1: Mark played for US right and Mark he what was he?
Speaker 2: A backup center?
Speaker 7: Remember a couple of games?
Speaker 2: Remember when he shot himself during practice or workouts?
Speaker 7: He said himself twice he shipped.
Speaker 1: Himself and continued to practice and play at center.
Speaker 5: Yeah at center's respectful, that's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: And that man lived with fear talking about nah like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 7: My uncle y'all got those white pants to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, what there's got to be I think there's
Speaker 1: a photo somewhere. I'll try to find it so we can, uh. Bro,
Speaker 1: Mark was funny, but he's like, oh that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's my family.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, just condition that way.
Speaker 1: But like we say, all this stuff too, and you
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't mistake it for the downfall or anything,
Speaker 1: right because since then there has been no nine to four,
Speaker 1: ten and four, Like, yeah, we lost some big moments
Speaker 1: and some big games and people forget too, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he couldn't couldn't keep his head in the big moments.
Speaker 1: Like my senior year we had seven We had seven
Speaker 1: comebacks in the second half. That year was fucking memorable.
Speaker 5: I always say that was one of the rosters. We
Speaker 5: tricked it off against Northwestern that year. We tricked it off.
Speaker 5: I don't know how that happened.
Speaker 1: We had just we tricked it off against the team
Speaker 1: every year, Like the year after we lost to Texas
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve championship, we tricked it off by
Speaker 1: losing to them at home.
Speaker 2: For whatever reason. We tricked it off against Northwestern.
Speaker 5: Yeah, after we had just beaten a star studyed Michigan
Speaker 5: State team, Kirk Cousins my father back now, they had
Speaker 5: like Le'Veon Bell, Edwin Baker, bj Cunningham, all those receivers.
Speaker 7: Defense. What's the big tall d in Golson?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gohlson.
Speaker 5: They were load and we smacked him at home and
Speaker 5: ye lose to Northwestern next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just always it fucking sucked, bro. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, losing the Big Ten championship the first year
Speaker 1: we went to the Big Ten or second second. Then
Speaker 1: we go to the championship game and we lost what
Speaker 1: was it seventy seventy something to like thirty nine. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Bloss, I'm saying, like you couldn't throw
Speaker 1: us a life jacket. Bro, We're out there just drowning,
Speaker 1: and there was like and they just kept running the
Speaker 1: fucking speed sweep.
Speaker 2: Dude, I can't wait to ask Ball about that.
Speaker 7: I'm not touching. I'm not touching Ie. I'm gonna let
Speaker 7: you bro.
Speaker 2: Well, at the end of the day, we gotta make plays.
Speaker 2: I know there was one tackle. Line Man's like we're
Speaker 2: out in space obviously, Like there's arguments always on every side.
Speaker 1: Like as a player as a man, like we were
Speaker 1: very much a countable. Like that's the name of the
Speaker 1: game at the end of the day. Like if you're
Speaker 1: not self accountable and you're blaming other shit on why
Speaker 1: things happen, like you're gonna fail at some point in
Speaker 1: life anyway. So I sit there and watch it on
Speaker 1: my man, I wish I would have fucking played better
Speaker 1: and made certain plays and tackles. But if you put
Speaker 1: on from the coaching perspective, like there were we you know,
Speaker 1: we ain't make an adjustment when here's a fucking twenty
Speaker 1: two speed personnel.
Speaker 5: Why was another thing with Bo man, you know, like
Speaker 5: he didn't really want to change a lot of things,
Speaker 5: like schematically, you know, he was I'm gonna live and
Speaker 5: die by this, and like once people start to get
Speaker 5: a beat on you, you know you gotta adjust every
Speaker 5: now and then, right.
Speaker 1: Because there would be limited calls. But there's in Bo
Speaker 1: in the defensive world, there's a lot of adjustments to formations.
Speaker 1: It's honestly, again, there's there's both sides of the coin.
Speaker 1: Because learning under Bo and his staff is the reason
Speaker 1: I've been able to play in the league so long,
Speaker 1: because I had guys like I had guys like Bo
Speaker 1: coach Jampapucha's coach L's coach Eckler, even coach Carl for
Speaker 1: the love of God, but coach Marvin Sam that's a
Speaker 1: fucking another little tale that could be a little TV
Speaker 1: series on Netflix.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But learning the defensive philosophy under the Plini regime
Speaker 1: is the reason I've been able to play in the
Speaker 1: league so long, because they teach you so much about
Speaker 1: the game. They teach you not to They say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you need to learn to be an offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator coordinator out there, but once you learn the defense
Speaker 1: and you're able to learn what the offense is going
Speaker 1: to do to you based on formations, based on down
Speaker 1: and distance, based on everything else, like you are like
Speaker 1: another little coach out there playing against these guys because
Speaker 1: you know you understand what's coming because based on formations,
Speaker 1: you check something and you know they only run a
Speaker 1: couple of players out of those formations. And just learning
Speaker 1: under that barre Rude, he would always come back to
Speaker 1: Nebraska shout out bart Rude, but he would always help
Speaker 1: me on studying film and how to take notes and
Speaker 1: learning all of that is the reason I'm like all
Speaker 1: the credit in the world goes to that because that's
Speaker 1: why I've been able to play so long, and we
Speaker 1: talk about the other side, like we've talked about.
Speaker 5: The interesting inverse. I had a completely opposite experience I
Speaker 5: with coach Beck. Tim Beck was officer. Of course you're
Speaker 5: in a different world on all bro getting to the league. Man,
Speaker 5: it was like, I consider myself a pretty intelligent guy,
Speaker 5: so I didn't struggle, you know, with the playbook, but
Speaker 5: it was like the learning curve was completely different, like
Speaker 5: the verbus, the play calls, understanding that I had to
Speaker 5: know what everyone else was doing.
Speaker 7: I never had to do that. In Nebraska.
Speaker 5: Our play calls were like two words like red mango go,
Speaker 5: that's a play in the league, you don't have that,
Speaker 5: you know, you said in the formation you got maybe
Speaker 5: a shift to emotion, and then you got to understand
Speaker 5: if a safety moves down in the box this way,
Speaker 5: the protection may change.
Speaker 7: I didn't have to learn all that stuff.
Speaker 5: So I feel like, honestly, going into year seven, it's crazy,
Speaker 5: but I'm just not really scratching the surface of what
Speaker 5: I can be potentially in the league, from like a
Speaker 5: third down back, a receiving back step point because I
Speaker 5: understand the game a lot more.
Speaker 7: I was just out there playing with talent for.
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Speaker 1: Yeah so, And that's a good topic to cover too,
Speaker 1: because a lot of these, a lot of colleges, you know,
Speaker 1: very spread away, it very very based on maybe two
Speaker 1: word calls, like because coaches are trying to basically out
Speaker 1: coach the other coach based tempo everybody Chip Kelly tried
Speaker 1: doing to bring it into the league.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like do you feel like.
Speaker 1: Understanding all that stuff now and looking at like if
Speaker 1: you were to give a message to running backs that
Speaker 1: are getting recruited to be to look at pro style colleges,
Speaker 1: pro style programs, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, do you feel like you wish you a been
Speaker 2: more of a prototice.
Speaker 7: I definitely do.
Speaker 5: I definitely do that, and like sitting in with the
Speaker 5: quarterbacks more to understand like safety rotation and like just
Speaker 5: coverages because you know, everything happens from the top down right,
Speaker 5: at least from the way the quarterbacks, so you read
Speaker 5: a defense right, the safeties usually tell you, you know,
Speaker 5: even though they disguised a little bit, you have some
Speaker 5: good safeties.
Speaker 7: Like Harrison Smith is crazy on our team.
Speaker 5: He'll be down with the line of scrimmage on the snap,
Speaker 5: He'll be running way back.
Speaker 7: It'd be crazy. He's different, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But for the young guys, who are you know, playing
Speaker 5: against these collegiate teams, I would definitely say sit in
Speaker 5: with the quarterback a lot more. Understand blitz patterns, fronts,
Speaker 5: what different you know, alignments for dns can mean if
Speaker 5: a d N is kind of spiked inside, most likely
Speaker 5: someone's blitzing outside because everything is gap you know, most
Speaker 5: defense or gap to sign.
Speaker 7: You know, things like that.
Speaker 5: I didn't understand where you can see things before they happen,
Speaker 5: and then that's when your natural talent can really show,
Speaker 5: you know, because now you're getting the ball. You knew
Speaker 5: that that was gonna spike, and you knew it was
Speaker 5: gonna be an unaccounted for blitter on the outside, So
Speaker 5: you can be like, all right, I'm gonna make this
Speaker 5: move on this guy as supposed to get in the ball.
Speaker 5: You're like, oh, ship, now I gotta make the move.
Speaker 5: You know, without me knowing before that that was gonna
Speaker 5: happen off your tackle.
Speaker 2: Like that, you felt you didn't have a lot of
Speaker 2: that stuff in.
Speaker 7: The No, no, not at all, not at all, you know.
Speaker 2: So you just you just you knew what to do.
Speaker 2: And then that's what it was. Bro. Did they make
Speaker 2: sure it's fear Mirror?
Speaker 7: They actually so.
Speaker 5: Senior year homecoming against UH Illinois, they spelled my name
Speaker 5: on the field with the band Fear Mirror. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you can find the footage. It
Speaker 5: was against Illinois. That was probably the craziest thing. My
Speaker 5: mom was crying in the stands because like she was like, Yo,
Speaker 5: this is my son that they're making this for. I
Speaker 5: don't even look at him as fear of mirror, but
Speaker 5: like they love him here. And it was crazy because
Speaker 5: my mom, I'm from Birmingham, Alabama and leaving home that's
Speaker 5: like sixteen hours away. My mom was kept. She really
Speaker 5: didn't want me going to Nebraska. She didn't want me
Speaker 5: going far. But to see the impact and how that
Speaker 5: really changed my life made I guess it was one
Speaker 5: of those moments in motherhood. Was like, dang, I gotta
Speaker 5: trust my child more because he had the intuition that
Speaker 5: this was going to be the place for him.
Speaker 7: And four years later, that's spelling his name on the field.
Speaker 2: That's dope, man, dope, what made you come to Nebraska? Really?
Speaker 5: Coach Bo, Coach Bow, he was the only coach who
Speaker 5: really came to my high school for me. Everyone else
Speaker 5: will like their call, you know, they'll send some some mail.
Speaker 5: But Coach Bow came and pulled me out of art class.
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna forget. So like my second half of
Speaker 5: my first semester my senior year, I had pretty much
Speaker 5: gotten all my credits to graduate already. So I'm in
Speaker 5: like bullshit classes all the time. I'm in art and
Speaker 5: I get a call on my cell phone and my
Speaker 5: art teacher.
Speaker 7: Was super cool. She let me pick up the phone
Speaker 7: and it was both Polini.
Speaker 5: He was like, hey, man, get a pass from class,
Speaker 5: come down to the council's office and I had just
Speaker 5: seen you guys. I think a couple of weeks before,
Speaker 5: Taylor Martinez had a crazy game against Kansas State. He
Speaker 5: scored like six sounds or something like that. So Nebraska
Speaker 5: was on my radars. I was like, and that's when
Speaker 5: y'all lost to Texas and the Big Ten the Big
Speaker 5: Twelve championship that year, So like you guys were a
Speaker 5: game or from the national championships. I was like, you
Speaker 5: know what, this is a good opportunity for me. Like
Speaker 5: Alabama and Arburn they were lightly recruiting me. They really
Speaker 5: wanted me to play corner. I wanted to play running back.
Speaker 5: So coach both coming in and just telling me like,
Speaker 5: hey man, I'm not gonna tell you're going to be
Speaker 5: a starter, but I think you got a special talent.
Speaker 5: And that's the reason why I came here. We don't
Speaker 5: come to Alabama, you know, often, but when we do,
Speaker 5: we don't miss. I remember he said that we don't miss.
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, you're not gonna miss with
Speaker 5: this one. And rest you know what it is that is?
Speaker 5: Uh Bo was the man bro.
Speaker 1: He really is the man he'll yank your a I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what you missed an art class in college.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hey, that was that was one thing.
Speaker 1: That stuff that always kind of stuck with me because
Speaker 1: you know, he'd being like team meetings and talk about
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna hold your hand and babysit you
Speaker 1: guys like you guys are growing in.
Speaker 2: You need we need to we need to teach you guys.
Speaker 1: But you guys need to learn to become grown men
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna do You're not going to be
Speaker 1: a some of the time guy. It's either all the
Speaker 1: time or your ass isn't playing on Saturday. He's like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna pick and choose when the show up.
Speaker 1: It's not just come play Saturday, come play when we practice.
Speaker 1: You're either going to be the same person in classroom
Speaker 1: or you're not going to be here.
Speaker 5: I think that's what I appreciated about him the most
Speaker 5: is the growth that I saw on all of my friends.
Speaker 5: So ironically, Josh Mitchell and Kenny Bell are both in
Speaker 5: that group chat some of my closest friends today. But
Speaker 5: when they came to Nebraska, when they first got there,
Speaker 5: they were shitthads. You know, they were immature, a little
Speaker 5: one titled you know a little bit, and didn't want
Speaker 5: to go to classroom and that stuff.
Speaker 7: Bowl Like you said, he didn't hold their hands.
Speaker 5: Like they grew as men because of Bowl, And I
Speaker 5: think that's something that maybe the fans who just see
Speaker 5: him on Saturday, they don't understand.
Speaker 7: He held people accountable. He really was.
Speaker 5: He was like a second father almost, and he wasn't
Speaker 5: going to baby you. He was going to help you grow,
Speaker 5: which growth is never comfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So focus on the process, compete every day. That's
Speaker 1: his biggest coote that he had hanging around everywhere. And
Speaker 1: as cliche as it is, it's just like, unfortunately, it's
Speaker 1: the fucking.
Speaker 2: Truth you talk about.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to you speaking about Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to that pivot yet. I
Speaker 1: want to go to the development you've had throughout the
Speaker 1: years getting to this point you've spoken on, Like now,
Speaker 1: you you're at a place where you feel like you
Speaker 1: you understand third down, you understand schematics, you understand all
Speaker 1: this stuff in the football world. Talk about your development
Speaker 1: from when you first came into the league to where
Speaker 1: you're at now, whether it's mentally spiritually, physically, football, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, because you're somebody I've always like respected and
Speaker 1: admire from afar, Like, obviously you.
Speaker 2: Know that we're boys.
Speaker 1: We're you know, we're good friends, some would say, but
Speaker 1: for real, like you're my boy, and you're also somebody
Speaker 1: like I always try to like tell because you never
Speaker 1: like tell your friends that they're like mentors of yours.
Speaker 2: Right, It's always got to be seen as somebody.
Speaker 1: Who's either where you want to be, older above you
Speaker 1: in some kind of But you've always been somebody that's
Speaker 1: like indirectly mentored me from afar because I keep my
Speaker 1: eye on you and what you do because you're you always.
Speaker 2: Seem to be in a good place. Talk about that development.
Speaker 5: Shoot, it's funny you say I always seem like I'm
Speaker 5: in a good place because I'm not not always, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, which everyone deals with stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but uh, shoot, I started with Detroit. Man. When I
Speaker 5: first got to Detroit, I had a really good rookie
Speaker 5: year and I put a lot of expectations on myself.
Speaker 5: But that city, it's tough with the expectations. So like
Speaker 5: getting hurt my second year, for the entire season, you're
Speaker 5: drafting the second round right, taking around, taking around. So
Speaker 5: first round rookiear was solid. Second year, I got hurt
Speaker 5: pretty early, which Detroit is kind of a woe with me,
Speaker 5: you know town sometimes where like when they're up there up,
Speaker 5: when they're down there down, you know, which they've been
Speaker 5: down for a little while now.
Speaker 7: So for me, that was a that was a really
Speaker 7: that was a low point.
Speaker 5: For me, you know in my career where it was
Speaker 5: a lot of doubts started to you know, started to
Speaker 5: creep in for me, like is he going to be
Speaker 5: able to be the same player after this injury again?
Speaker 7: Can he stay healthy? Can he be every down back?
Speaker 5: And those were a lot of the things that I
Speaker 5: thought when I first got to Nebraska. So you know,
Speaker 5: as people, doubt is like always stronger than confidence for
Speaker 5: some reason, you know, for some reason, we're so much
Speaker 5: quicker to like believe than negative as opposed to the positive.
Speaker 5: And for I'll say, between like twenty sixteen through twenty seventeen.
Speaker 7: I kind of become that person.
Speaker 5: I kind of lost my way of seeing the opportunity
Speaker 5: as opposed to the obstacle.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: But I'll say the development started to happen when I
Speaker 5: started to realize who you are sometimes is who you
Speaker 5: are all the time. And I now'll plug bo again.
Speaker 5: It's about the process. I started to, you know, reach
Speaker 5: out to you about a lot of things with taking
Speaker 5: care of my physical body on a day to day basis.
Speaker 5: And when I started to take care of my physical
Speaker 5: that started to help my mental It really did, because
Speaker 5: I was feeding myself, you know, feeding myself and so
Speaker 5: to speak a self loving manner, you know, doing things
Speaker 5: that made my body feel good made me mentally feel
Speaker 5: good about going to work. I was more confident. I
Speaker 5: felt better about myself, and I think everything in life
Speaker 5: happens for a reason. So when I transitioned from Detroit
Speaker 5: to Minnesota, I think that was kind of that last
Speaker 5: like burden that was off my shoulders, of like attaching
Speaker 5: to an identity of being the best all the time.
Speaker 5: You know, I still consider myself right now one of
Speaker 5: the best athletes pounderful pound in the NFL. You know,
Speaker 5: an opportunity as it comes will show that. But for me,
Speaker 5: it was all about just getting back to the basics
Speaker 5: of doing things like every day waking up at a
Speaker 5: certain time like I always no matter what night I
Speaker 5: had before, I try to wake up at five fifteen
Speaker 5: every morning, just because you get to wake up with
Speaker 5: the sun, you get to mature with the day, and
Speaker 5: you get more out of the day. I try to
Speaker 5: make up my bed every single day because both both
Speaker 5: said it, bro it's the little things to process, and
Speaker 5: it's not about like achieving the big things one time.
Speaker 5: It's about achieving those little things over time and time again,
Speaker 5: until you look back and you're like, holy crap, I
Speaker 5: built a monumental legacy for myself just because I was
Speaker 5: keen and I was focused on the little things.
Speaker 7: So I think a lot of my development.
Speaker 5: Spiritually, physically, and mentally all come from just like enjoying
Speaker 5: the little subtle things in life, like going out in nature,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Just going out in nature,
Speaker 5: or just moving my body first thing in the morning,
Speaker 5: after I you know, make up my bed, brush my
Speaker 5: teeth and everything, moving my body, being thankful that I
Speaker 5: can actually move my body, because I got a lot
Speaker 5: of friends who had pretty severe injuries they can't even
Speaker 5: move the same anymore, you know. And just giving back
Speaker 5: to those simple essences of life have really like allowed
Speaker 5: me to stay in the league as long as I
Speaker 5: can and I think I'm actually I'm at, you know,
Speaker 5: an ascension point.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm going to the last year my deal
Speaker 5: with Soda and just seeing how my role has changed
Speaker 5: with them, where I'm sure in the field with probably
Speaker 5: other than Derrick Henry, the best back in the league.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Dalavin Cook. So that's also
Speaker 5: to me, it's kind of it's interesting. I'm back in
Speaker 5: the same place that I was when I first got
Speaker 5: to Nebraska. In my opinion, why when I got there,
Speaker 5: Rex Burke was there, one of the best back in
Speaker 5: the college football. When I first got there, I knew
Speaker 5: I would have to sit. I knew I have to
Speaker 5: be patient, and I had to find my way. I
Speaker 5: had to find my way on special teams. I was
Speaker 5: a return guy, you know. When I got to college,
Speaker 5: I was a first of All American just because of
Speaker 5: returning return the ball. And then in the NFL, I
Speaker 5: was a starter all four years in Detroit. Get to Minnesota,
Speaker 5: I'm not the start anymore. I'm back to that point
Speaker 5: of like re humbling yourself. But I don't really look
Speaker 5: at it as like humbling yourself. It's like just focusing
Speaker 5: back on the little things, because timing is everything. But
Speaker 5: timing is always happening, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 5: your moment is always happening. It's just being ready and
Speaker 5: being aligned with that. And to do that, you have
Speaker 5: to be on the little things because it'll go past
Speaker 5: you and you won't even realize it when past you.
Speaker 5: If you're bullshitting, if you're trying to cut corners, if
Speaker 5: you're making excuses, if you're kind of that, woe with me, Like, man,
Speaker 5: they should be doing this more for me, or this
Speaker 5: should be happening for me. Just expectations. It's like, don't expect,
Speaker 5: just do. And when you're doing, and when the opportunity comes,
Speaker 5: it's going to be so seamless that it's like, oh
Speaker 5: I did that. I created something for my life and
Speaker 5: it was effortless. I didn't have to pull the moon
Speaker 5: to Earth. I just had to continue to fall back
Speaker 5: on my training, you know what I mean, Like you know,
Speaker 5: when what was that group that came in and they
Speaker 5: like threw us in.
Speaker 2: A pool program the program.
Speaker 5: So we did this thing in Nebraska one summer where
Speaker 5: these groups they called the program, they come in. They're
Speaker 5: like military guys, Navy seals actually I believe, and they're
Speaker 5: pretty much just talking about teamwork and bonding. And one
Speaker 5: thing that they always preached was never rise to the occasion,
Speaker 5: just fall back on your you know your training, right,
Speaker 5: And I can remember those times in Detroit that the
Speaker 5: pressure felt like I had to rise to the occasion,
Speaker 5: rise to the occasion as opposed to just falling back
Speaker 5: on what I knew. And now I'm in a place,
Speaker 5: you know, I've matured over the years where it's like
Speaker 5: my heart rate doesn't ever jump anymore because I'm like, man,
Speaker 5: I do this ship every day. My work away from
Speaker 5: the facility is way harder than the work that you
Speaker 5: do in.
Speaker 7: The facility, in my opinion. So it was like, I'm
Speaker 7: in a really good place with that.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: Hey, that fired me up.
Speaker 1: That's a good right there in a crowd, you might
Speaker 1: have motivated the boys back there.
Speaker 2: We're scared to hear this ship.
Speaker 7: Since that yo were trained by the Navy Seals. Is
Speaker 7: that correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called Yeah, it's called the program. The program
Speaker 1: if you type it in, is that it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Bro, I'm telling you, man, this is they've developed. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're they're going hard. Now that they had one session
Speaker 5: where we had to wear all of our sweats and
Speaker 5: tread water in that pool.
Speaker 2: You remember that ship. Yeah, and whether you could swim
Speaker 2: or not, Bro, you couldn't hang on to the side, so.
Speaker 7: Irresponsible.
Speaker 5: It's possible because Brayland hurt couldn't swim, right, Blan couldn't swim,
Speaker 5: And if you could swim, you had to like, you know,
Speaker 5: help his teammates.
Speaker 7: So it's like they did on purpose.
Speaker 5: So if you couldn't swim, now you got to rely
Speaker 5: on that person on the team who was the stronger
Speaker 5: swimmer to maybe hold you up. I just remember Camera
Speaker 5: Meredith just like chilling. Know, he's an Orange County kid,
Speaker 5: hunting beast kids, just chilling floating in the middle of
Speaker 5: the poor everyone else is like drowning.
Speaker 1: And yeah, bro, that ship was fucking hard and this
Speaker 1: is a this is like three in the morning. We
Speaker 1: had to do a whole evening on the field, like
Speaker 1: in the turf field, like doing logs and ship like
Speaker 1: over like doing a lot of team stuff because it
Speaker 1: gives a coach's feedback, like who leaders are, who people
Speaker 1: are gonna separate from the pack, people who are good,
Speaker 1: you know, just teammates. Because the whole ordeal is that
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're a leader somebody who has
Speaker 1: a title or not, Like we're all leaders in our
Speaker 1: own regards, whether you're a teammate who's just helping one
Speaker 1: other teammate. But uh, they tell you the perfect push
Speaker 1: up that we had to do every day, all the
Speaker 1: fucking time. But bro, so you had to do this
Speaker 1: whole evening, right. We probably left around maybe PM and
Speaker 1: nine pm, and then we had to be at the
Speaker 1: swimming facility at three am in the morning, and you'd
Speaker 1: have to wear all these sweats or in the pool
Speaker 1: like you're doing last But then you're in the deep
Speaker 1: end and you're treading water, right and you're helping your
Speaker 1: teammates stay up. But at one point you got to
Speaker 1: change your sweats and give it to your partner.
Speaker 7: While you're in the water trading water.
Speaker 1: Yeah so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That shit was fucking brutal. What were we going on
Speaker 2: with that? Fall back?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, fall back in your training?
Speaker 1: Man, So just a quote of falling back on your training,
Speaker 1: I think they basically become your habits. You're literally talking
Speaker 1: about all these old things the book you guys put
Speaker 1: me on in the group chat atomic habits.
Speaker 2: Shout out j Mitch.
Speaker 1: I want to say him or Quincy or somebody might
Speaker 1: have posted that one of those two. But like reading
Speaker 1: that book too is like that's a quote from there,
Speaker 1: like you ultimately become, you become what your habits are,
Speaker 1: all these little things that we talk about.
Speaker 2: Whatever quote you want.
Speaker 5: If I can, just going back to doubt. Doubt is
Speaker 5: like the thief of joy. It really is, because when
Speaker 5: you start to doubt yourself more, you start to believe
Speaker 5: those doubts. You get afraid to even do the little things.
Speaker 5: I got to that point where like I was so
Speaker 5: doubtful after that my four.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to get in. That's what I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask.
Speaker 1: And you're doing that whole thing, Like was it a
Speaker 1: certain moment in timeframe obviously with your injury to where
Speaker 1: it it made you see like, yo, I'm weak minded
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: Like what am I doing? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Weak minded? Like I started to after my foot injury.
Speaker 5: So I told my little Frank. So that's like brutal too, bro,
Speaker 5: It's like the acl of your foot. It's just terrible.
Speaker 5: It's terrible injury to come back from. I still got
Speaker 5: screwed my foot from her now. But I started to
Speaker 5: just tell myself, like, you won't be the same. You
Speaker 5: won't be the same. You know, you won't be able
Speaker 5: to cut on your left foot as much as you
Speaker 5: used to, you know, and from that, you stop working
Speaker 5: the way that you did when you didn't have that injury.
Speaker 5: Because you're starting to incept yourself. You start to accept
Speaker 5: the idea that you aren't the same. So subconsciously your
Speaker 5: body starts to, you know, pretty much agree with that.
Speaker 5: So physically you don't even want to move, you don't
Speaker 5: want to work. You know it's not gonna get any better.
Speaker 5: So I saw myself starting to go down that path,
Speaker 5: which is where I feel like my third year in
Speaker 5: the league, it was a solid year, but we were
Speaker 5: going through a coaching you know, transition. So anytime you're
Speaker 5: going through a transition, you got to make a good impression.
Speaker 5: My third year was very average.
Speaker 7: It's very average year.
Speaker 5: I think I worked for like seven hundred yards or
Speaker 5: something like that, but you know.
Speaker 2: Which isn't bad.
Speaker 5: But I saw myself as a thousand yard back for sure,
Speaker 5: you know. But I can really remember, just like the
Speaker 5: off season before that year, I was scared to really
Speaker 5: push myself because I was still coming off of the injury,
Speaker 5: and it was really the doubt.
Speaker 7: It was what I had told myself I was fine.
Speaker 5: Now I feel way more elusive than I ever have
Speaker 5: in my whole career after a surgery. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, that's just because my self speech and doing
Speaker 5: the little things every day.
Speaker 7: It's got to be back to that point.
Speaker 5: And just for anyone who's really watching, man like, don't
Speaker 5: I lie all the doubt to steal your joy, because
Speaker 5: it'll start to seep in your life, and who you
Speaker 5: are sometimes is who you are all the time, and
Speaker 5: you may think this is just one area of my
Speaker 5: life that I'm struggling in it'll start to bleed over start.
Speaker 5: I saw it in my relationship lives where I wasn't
Speaker 5: doing the little things, I wasn't communicating well, went through
Speaker 5: a lot of you know, tough breakups because of that.
Speaker 7: I saw it in my my my family life.
Speaker 5: Where I wasn't staying in communication with them as much.
Speaker 2: So you quit, you're quickly triggered.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would.
Speaker 5: I would just kind of run from situations. Anything that
Speaker 5: was a little painful, I would run from. It's the
Speaker 5: same thing with my foot anytime I was trying to
Speaker 5: cut and it hurt a little bit, I'm like, I
Speaker 5: don't want to do that anymore. So that's when I
Speaker 5: start to realize, like, yo, who you are sometimes is
Speaker 5: who you are all the time, and you kind of
Speaker 5: got to run towards that fear. You gotta run towards that,
Speaker 5: you know, that doubt in the sense because on the
Speaker 5: other side of that, a lot of time it's joy
Speaker 5: and it's a lot of like prosperity.
Speaker 1: Right, even even comparing to like looking you know, the
Speaker 1: thing in like ball, like in words too, is like
Speaker 1: never look at another man's wallet, like when somebody gets
Speaker 1: signed and you're like, oh, you know, you're you're getting
Speaker 1: out of the framework of what you're seeing in front
Speaker 1: of you. But even comparing that steals that's another that's
Speaker 1: another doubtful thing, that that steals your joy as.
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt.
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Speaker 1: a lot more elusive. Is there is there some like
Speaker 1: body work or training that you've adapted over the years
Speaker 1: that's that's allowed you to become this?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I gotta pay homage to foot Doctor Sports. So foot
Speaker 5: Doctor Sports is a sports training enterprise based out of Miami.
Speaker 5: But they they have foot doctors just passed all around
Speaker 5: the country.
Speaker 2: Now, is there one in Nashville? I don't know.
Speaker 5: If it's a foot doctor in Nashville, he might it
Speaker 5: might be one. So the owner's name is Seth Seth Mentor,
Speaker 5: and pretty much what they do is they connect you
Speaker 5: to you by doing a lot more barefoot training. You know,
Speaker 5: you see a lot of people doing barefoot training. I
Speaker 5: would advocate that the foot doctors are different than everyone else.
Speaker 5: I don't want to give their whole little spiel, you
Speaker 5: know what exactly what they do on camera, I'll let
Speaker 5: them tell it better than what I can. But working
Speaker 5: with those guys and working with my personal trainer now
Speaker 5: foot doctor for Doctor Moe, had really allowed me to
Speaker 5: understand that the body is all a spiral.
Speaker 7: Everything is about It's like a Pulley Levy system. Everything.
Speaker 5: It's more about absorbing force as opposed to delivering force.
Speaker 5: You know, if you look at a rubber band you throw,
Speaker 5: or like a trampoline you jump on a trampoline, the
Speaker 5: force you give down is going to rebound and give
Speaker 5: a much greater force.
Speaker 7: Your body is the same way.
Speaker 5: Your ankles a tramveline system, your knees are trampoline system,
Speaker 5: your hips are too. And really changing that understanding of
Speaker 5: the body change my training moving forward. Because of Nebraska,
Speaker 5: I was a big, big lifter. All we talked about
Speaker 5: was it be you?
Speaker 2: Who is me? I know sometimes.
Speaker 5: The majority of the time like Bard Squad like four
Speaker 5: nine fifteen, you remember that, like crazy, like crazy waight bro,
Speaker 5: which it's you get stronger by forcing your body under
Speaker 5: tension over time.
Speaker 7: But what that really does is that reinforces.
Speaker 5: A force absorption subconscience that's not healthy, which is why
Speaker 5: you see a lot of guys have non contact knee injuries.
Speaker 5: Because if you think you have force on your shoulders,
Speaker 5: force at the ground, that's obviously a given.
Speaker 7: Gravity is a given. That's physics.
Speaker 5: Your body is saying when you have forced out at
Speaker 5: the top and force at the bottom, to resist as
Speaker 5: opposed to if I'm having forced from the top to
Speaker 5: sink into it and redistribute. It's telling all of your
Speaker 5: your joints to resist when you know when forces applicat
Speaker 5: applicated to you. Right, So a lot of guys, when
Speaker 5: you see them running, they cut and they tear. The
Speaker 5: ACL's because your body has been trained to resist the ground,
Speaker 5: not use it, not to absorb it. And when I
Speaker 5: start to learn that, I was like, I can keep
Speaker 5: myself healthier by doing more functional training.
Speaker 7: Things that helped me.
Speaker 5: Spring out of my cut as opposed to stump out
Speaker 5: of my you know, out of my cut.
Speaker 7: You see some guys they stump through drills.
Speaker 5: You see them, and it looks good on camera, that's
Speaker 5: stumping and stuff, But it's like you do that shit
Speaker 5: in a game while someone's hitting you, and your knee
Speaker 5: is trying to resist someone hitting you from up here,
Speaker 5: and then your feet are on the ground, especially with
Speaker 5: artificial turf nowadays, how grabby that stuff is. That's why
Speaker 5: you see a lot of these injuries, knee injuries. And
Speaker 5: I think that really changed my whole outlook on how
Speaker 5: you should train and what's actually necessary for football players,
Speaker 5: which has really made me a lot more elusive in
Speaker 5: my opinion now. Like honestly, I consider myself more of
Speaker 5: a receiver than I even do a running back.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: You know, I think I probably can run every route
Speaker 5: on the route tree. But that couldn't be said. Back
Speaker 5: in Nebraska. I was a lot more stiff. I was
Speaker 5: a lot more.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But like over time, like me being older as well,
Speaker 1: like I've benefited greatly a lot more from like a said, training, yeah,
Speaker 1: isometrics and things like that, just because of how the joints.
Speaker 2: Feel over time.
Speaker 1: It's crazy too, like thinking back in the college, like
Speaker 1: all this stuff we had to do, and even even
Speaker 1: high school, even like my dad always had me on stuff, uh,
Speaker 1: training programs and stuff in high school as well, all stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: not he hit me on that, that creating amount of hydrate.
Speaker 7: Baby, I got some funny stories about will.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about Vegas?
Speaker 1: Oh, BBC one fifty seven, So then yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so BBC one fifty seven. It is a body protective compound.
Speaker 1: It's not on a band substance list or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I got it from Ben Greenfield and it helps, like, uh,
Speaker 1: it helps.
Speaker 2: What's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: Like rea, Yeah, like regenerate like injuries, like ten ligaments
Speaker 1: like stuff with injuries.
Speaker 2: You'd put it intramuscular right into the injury. And it's
Speaker 2: not a fucking band substance.
Speaker 1: But we're in Vegas and emirs always like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can, you can take the table, can tell you ahead,
Speaker 1: you can go.
Speaker 7: The st So we're in Vegas. I forgot why we
Speaker 7: were even there.
Speaker 5: Was it the nfl P, A nfl P A, nfl
Speaker 5: PA meetings they had in Vegas like, what the fuck? Anyways,
Speaker 5: I'm always like the team there now. I guess there's
Speaker 5: a team there now. But Will I think he had
Speaker 5: his door cracked because I thought him I was gonna
Speaker 5: come up to his room.
Speaker 7: I walk in, I see Will bear ass out needle.
Speaker 5: Just shoot us and shit in his ass, and I'm
Speaker 5: just like, well, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 7: I was like, that's how you're doing it.
Speaker 5: Huh, that's how you're doing it, because at this time
Speaker 5: he hadn't told me this is bp C one.
Speaker 1: I told you to come up and ship to check out,
Speaker 1: Like I'd be like, bro.
Speaker 7: It looks sketchy.
Speaker 1: Shit, look because I'm putting you on I think I
Speaker 1: was putting you on red light like light there being
Speaker 1: I had packed all the ship, dude, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: had like an upper hamstring injury, and here comes in
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, like this is it. It does
Speaker 1: look sketchy as fuck, dude, like needles, I'm like injecting
Speaker 1: the ship like right into the top part of my hamstring.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember. I remember when I was first
Speaker 1: like learning about it. I was sketched out by it,
Speaker 1: like singing, like putting it together and everything, and I
Speaker 1: remember the drug test guy because.
Speaker 7: I'm meth I remember I thought he was doing math.
Speaker 1: I remember the drug test guy coming to my house
Speaker 1: and being like, hey can you get can you get
Speaker 1: pop for this?
Speaker 2: Like is this on a band substice list?
Speaker 1: And like we're looking at stuff and again confirm that
Speaker 1: it's not because I'm listening to it from like a
Speaker 1: Rogan podcast from Ben Greenfield, like all this stuff that
Speaker 1: I've learned, Like I was very the way I'm obsessive
Speaker 1: over bust with the boys and like all this type
Speaker 1: of shit now is the way I was like with
Speaker 1: like performance recovery, all those mass of sauna ice, fucking
Speaker 1: red light, all that shit. And so I get on
Speaker 1: this BBC and so I'm like, well, I guess if
Speaker 1: I get pops, I'll know exactly what it comes from,
Speaker 1: because I just I sat there. I was like, I
Speaker 1: injected it right before you came over, so I'll know
Speaker 1: if it's from that. Because people would always ask like, hey,
Speaker 1: what if you got like and I'm just thinking to myself, well,
Speaker 1: I should know what it comes from because I'm always
Speaker 1: like very weary of like what I'm putting in them
Speaker 1: my body because I'm not like trying to fucking you know,
Speaker 1: put that batshit in there. But like I would be like, well,
Speaker 1: hands up, I know exactly where it comes from, and
Speaker 1: explain it and do this and that. That's why I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm able to talk about it. When you
Speaker 1: first bring it up. I'm sitting here, I'm like, should
Speaker 1: I be tense about talking about this? But I mean,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. It's not on the band. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if if it did happen, like we would fucking know.
Speaker 1: Look look at the old boy right there, just putting
Speaker 1: it into his Uh. You guys aren't a lot like YouTube, doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're doing it right now. It sounds sketchy
Speaker 1: as fucked the way I'm talking because I'm sitting here.
Speaker 1: Sometimes at times, glad it wasn't math. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: we're doing math. That's what you want to You declined.
Speaker 1: You declined it, though I'm not. I wasn't that long,
Speaker 1: did I didn'tcline? He's like, oh, I think I'm good.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I promise you, it's all good.
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna drink some coconut water.
Speaker 1: I'm good, Hey, Cometo. This is why I draw the
Speaker 1: line like I'm not.
Speaker 5: Going to go this far in Vegas too, know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, think about this wearing Vegas.
Speaker 7: It's the setting that really did it for me.
Speaker 5: And we were like in any other like maybe locker
Speaker 5: room or just someone's house. I was like, okay, I
Speaker 5: trust Compto, but it looked like meth. It looked like
Speaker 5: some kind of crystal wearing Vegas. He's like, you know,
Speaker 5: it's just do it one time. You know what in
Speaker 5: Vegas stays in Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is funny as fun, dude.
Speaker 7: That was actually epic night.
Speaker 1: That was fun. We had a good time. No, that
Speaker 1: was uh, that was we're talking nfl p A. That
Speaker 1: was an epic night nfl p A. Yeah, Quincy was
Speaker 1: there too, you remember, I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 1: We can talk about it after. I kind of don't
Speaker 1: remember that.
Speaker 2: Sure. I thought the nfl p A was more more
Speaker 2: chill than obviously when the island there was still for you.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right there, ye show my wedding ring. You're
Speaker 1: creative outside of ball. I want to dive into that.
Speaker 1: You're actually wearing a hat. Is that is that the hat?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: This this one our hats.
Speaker 5: This is one I had, So I have a brand
Speaker 5: slash production company called Creative House, and pretty much what
Speaker 5: we do from a social media standpoint is we just
Speaker 5: encourage other creatives to step into their life.
Speaker 7: Everyone's a creative. It's all about how you look at something.
Speaker 7: You know, one thing may look like something from somebody else.
Speaker 7: You turn it this way, they may see a whole
Speaker 7: different perspective.
Speaker 5: We just want people to see life that way, see
Speaker 5: racial issues that way, see policies that way, you know,
Speaker 5: the whole nine yards. Just be more creative with your thought,
Speaker 5: you know, because it just encourages people to not be
Speaker 5: as down in the dumps or pessimistic about life because
Speaker 5: shit's been tough for the last couple of years, you know,
Speaker 5: a pandemic, all these other things going on. We just
Speaker 5: want to encourage people. From a production standpoint, we do
Speaker 5: a lot of things with Lulu Limit a lot of
Speaker 5: companies up in Minneapolis, so we're based out of Minneapolis,
Speaker 5: and we also do events spacing, so we rent out
Speaker 5: our physical space in Minneapolis to other entrepreneurs and creatives
Speaker 5: who are trying to get their businesses off the ground.
Speaker 5: So we're all about the little people. So that's pretty
Speaker 5: much what got you into that?
Speaker 7: Really? My buddy Uzama.
Speaker 5: So, my buddy Zama, he has a company called Creative
Speaker 5: Copilot up in Minneapolis. It's like a parent company where
Speaker 5: he teaches other businesses how to make content. And I
Speaker 5: was like, you know what, I think this would be
Speaker 5: serve a greater purpose if we kind of like expand
Speaker 5: this idea and help other people who just need space
Speaker 5: to facilitate their business.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: And we, you know, we came together.
Speaker 5: We started making apparel at first, and then from there
Speaker 5: we're just like, you know, if we get a physical space,
Speaker 5: we can actually make money, you know, hosting people in
Speaker 5: our space, hosting our own events, building a community where
Speaker 5: people can trust us to be people who help them
Speaker 5: get to where they want to be. So that kind
Speaker 5: of grew over the last like we've been a company
Speaker 5: now for a little over a year. But the actual
Speaker 5: creative side of things actually came from me starting to
Speaker 5: write scripts when I first left college.
Speaker 7: Well you started doing it when you first left college
Speaker 7: I first left college.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot you keep from the group chat.
Speaker 5: Man, you know what, I kind of I like to
Speaker 5: keep things close to the chest until they're actually at
Speaker 5: the point of like manifestation and like physically tangibly you
Speaker 5: can see, you know, because I don't. I don't like
Speaker 5: to be that guy that's like, hey, I'm doing this,
Speaker 5: I'm doing that. I'm like, I'd rather just show you
Speaker 5: once it's ready, you know. But yeah, I first started
Speaker 5: writing screenplay when I left college. I just took a
Speaker 5: couple like master classes YouTube university, definitely hit it up
Speaker 5: just to.
Speaker 7: Learn, you know, learn how to write screenplay.
Speaker 5: I've always loved the essence of telling the story through film,
Speaker 5: you know, depicting things like that. Was a part of
Speaker 5: one writing team, which I won't disclose their name because
Speaker 5: we're no longer working together. We were actually writing a
Speaker 5: television show that was supposed to air three years ago,
Speaker 5: but the funding fell through, so that wasn't what it
Speaker 5: was and that pretty much sent me on a path
Speaker 5: to start to produce my own work. So right now
Speaker 5: I'm actually writing an animated adult sitcom that I told
Speaker 5: you about I think when we're that we're planning to
Speaker 5: produce in twenty twenty two. And so creative House is
Speaker 5: one side of what I do. From a credit standpoint.
Speaker 5: We have our own creative concerts where we produce tiny
Speaker 5: desk concerts for local artists around the country just to
Speaker 5: give them more of a platform and more of a exposure.
Speaker 5: You good, Yeah, I'm good it more exposure just because
Speaker 5: we feel like the underground music scene is like dying out,
Speaker 5: you know, because the streaming anyone can rap now, anyone
Speaker 5: can hop on and rap, and we feel like we
Speaker 5: need to kind of take the rings and bring the
Speaker 5: actual true art of people who are actually good at
Speaker 5: making music back. So we we only feature artists who
Speaker 5: were like on the come up, not guys who are
Speaker 5: already mainstream, who've already made it. We want to get
Speaker 5: back to the little people because we're always about those
Speaker 5: people who are kind of those hitting gyms. Because I
Speaker 5: consider myself a hitting gym. Like I said, it was
Speaker 5: a two star coming out Alabama. Yeah, I worked for it.
Speaker 5: But hey, did we talk Did we talk about that
Speaker 5: blog put it in you?
Speaker 1: I think we were talking about that at some point,
Speaker 1: weren't we. I know I touched on him being drafted,
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about in the past we've talked like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like people fuel themselves like me, I'll feel myself
Speaker 1: as an undrafted cat. But I was a four star
Speaker 1: coming out, so you know, controversially, like arguably a bust
Speaker 1: going into the league, right being a four star. But
Speaker 1: some people who are drafted high that were two stars
Speaker 1: or low stars, they'll feed on the chip of the
Speaker 1: shoulder being a low star.
Speaker 5: I always see myself as like donder dog everywhere I
Speaker 5: go all the time. And I don't know if it's
Speaker 5: like this sociopathic thing. I've told myself it definitely is
Speaker 5: our own, but like it helps me. Like anytime I
Speaker 5: walk in the room, I'm like, not that I got
Speaker 5: to prove something to anyone, but I'm just like, work
Speaker 5: hard and everybody in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Worked the hardest working in the room. You were always
Speaker 1: about that, you really were. That was like your quote.
Speaker 1: I think it was in your bio. I think that's
Speaker 1: some ship you put in. But you know, becoming out
Speaker 1: a dick move. Yeah, it's always I think we're all
Speaker 1: like brainwashed. I think we're all the underdogs, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I'm that way being undrafted. Taylor
Speaker 1: feels that way being drafted at like thirteen overall, He's
Speaker 1: like it was fucking twelve, motherfuckers.
Speaker 7: What oh?
Speaker 2: He argues, about all the time done.
Speaker 1: He like, just there's some there's something that all of it,
Speaker 1: like all the competitor in this just just has to
Speaker 1: bring the light. I mean, obviously you got to find
Speaker 1: your edges some somewhere, that chip on your shoulder.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, honestly, if we're gonna be honest, since
Speaker 5: Taylor said what he said, I was mad that I
Speaker 5: went as late as I did.
Speaker 7: And that was exactly I was mad, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, because it's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, to me, you're a second rounder and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, the all fucking thirty two teams passed on me.
Speaker 5: It's like the fuck up second round draft? Your team,
Speaker 5: second pig. What was your signing bonus?
Speaker 7: I think it was like two point something two point
Speaker 7: something million. Yeah, yeah, a couple of million.
Speaker 2: It's five thousand, I think so yeah.
Speaker 7: I was actually respect so it might have been like
Speaker 7: added like.
Speaker 2: A million or something like twenty seven hundred after tax.
Speaker 7: Say what was my signing bonus?
Speaker 5: It was like everybody be like a million or something
Speaker 5: like that point one point three one point.
Speaker 1: One that No, that's uh, that's the vet.
Speaker 2: He got the vet that was right there.
Speaker 1: Minimum you got the max out vet bonus there like
Speaker 1: this sport track, that one right there?
Speaker 2: First your click on it. I forget, we don't have Forget,
Speaker 2: we don't have Alex.
Speaker 1: You guys got we got ja, we got JP trying
Speaker 1: to fucking run it back there, learning Yeah, scroll down,
Speaker 1: let's see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, god boy, one point three million, that's nice.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what when that first, When that first
Speaker 1: you get your first check, bro, is that not an
Speaker 1: incredible feeling?
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 1: I mean my first check was a practice squad check,
Speaker 1: but I felt like I was on top of the
Speaker 1: fucking world.
Speaker 7: Hey man, there's more money what you had. Yes, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. It's more money what you had.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I actually had a really really crazy draft day. Do
Speaker 5: you know my draft day story?
Speaker 2: No, but I would love for you to share.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So Draft Day I was in back in Birmingham, Alabama
Speaker 5: with my family and the second round starts and the
Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals called me and they know, they're like, stay
Speaker 5: on the phone when it's the whole draft, we're gonna
Speaker 5: pick you, but we have like the I think they
Speaker 5: had like the eighteenth pick in the second second round,
Speaker 5: and I'm on the phone with Bruce Arians and me
Speaker 5: and Bruce Arians have history because he I don't know
Speaker 5: if he's from Alabama, but he was down in Alabama
Speaker 5: for some time and he used to host his camp
Speaker 5: at Hoover High School. When I was fourteen, I got
Speaker 5: a Hoover Hoover Yeah good, real good. Marlon Humphreys went there,
Speaker 5: but I got MVP at that at that camp, and
Speaker 5: jokingly he was like, man, you're gonna play in the
Speaker 5: league one day. And then ironically years later he's calling
Speaker 5: me trying to draft me. So he's like, dude, I
Speaker 5: told you, you know, we're just joking about that. I'm like, man,
Speaker 5: this is you can't write this stuff literally before I
Speaker 5: can even like, you know, get So it's the pick
Speaker 5: right before Arizona Detroit's on the clock. Didn't even call me,
Speaker 5: didn't even call me, and I just hear my mom
Speaker 5: saying America, come inside because I went outside because I
Speaker 5: was kind of stressed out.
Speaker 8: T J.
Speaker 5: Yoda and I got picked, and then like I was like,
Speaker 5: all right, man, all the draft board said I was
Speaker 5: supposed to go before TJ. Yoda, So I was like,
Speaker 5: oh man, I don't know what's gonna happen. So my
Speaker 5: mom's like come inside and the pick is in and
Speaker 5: Detroit had just picked me. Didn't even call me, so
Speaker 5: I had to tell Bruce Arians on the phone, like, yo,
Speaker 5: I just got drafted by the Detroit Lions. You know, sorry,
Speaker 5: I can't be Arizona Cardinal. But they end up getting
Speaker 5: David Johnson, which was a good pick for him. He
Speaker 5: was solid for him for a few years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, you know what I mean. They traded
Speaker 2: him for DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 7: Yeah, in incredible. What must have some dirt on them?
Speaker 5: I don't know you no, no say today with Johnson,
Speaker 5: I think he's a savage. But but d Hobbits won
Speaker 5: a lifetime type of receiver.
Speaker 1: Yes, bro man, Yeah what I'm saying, I was just
Speaker 1: gonna talk about with the with the draft or something
Speaker 1: with the draft.
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Speaker 2: You had your draft story.
Speaker 7: Were you tight when you didn't get drafted?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was tight for sure. Yeah. I mean I
Speaker 2: was undrafted, like I thought I'd be a low round.
Speaker 1: Like you let the thought get in your head to
Speaker 1: everybody said, oh, it's better to go and drafted than
Speaker 1: be a seventh rounder, and so I bought into that
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I do think it is better to go
Speaker 2: and drive seventh round.
Speaker 1: Sure, but I want to say day one, the Chargers
Speaker 1: called me, not to obviously, well clearly, but they called
Speaker 1: about like, yeah, we're very interested in you. This is
Speaker 1: on like day one, talking about probably on day three
Speaker 1: we're gonna look to get you.
Speaker 2: They drafted Mantiteou in the second round.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I was let down for sure, salty,
Speaker 1: and I felt like the undrafted process happened really faster,
Speaker 1: like three teams.
Speaker 2: I want to say.
Speaker 1: It was like Tampa Bay, the Redskins in Chicago that
Speaker 1: were and then a couple others that were wanting me.
Speaker 1: And then I was like my agent was kind of
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the depth chart and things like that,
Speaker 1: and I thought it'd be cool to play in Tampa
Speaker 1: because obviously Levante was there.
Speaker 2: And then he just calls me.
Speaker 1: Back, Hey, congratulations, you're you're you're Washington, You're Washington football teammate,
Speaker 1: and uh so it kind of just happened fast. I
Speaker 1: mean everyone's like happy and celebrated, and I was just
Speaker 1: kind of like bummed, you know, I didn't get drafted,
Speaker 1: but it made for a better story, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: change it, Like I fucking loved the whole undrafted just
Speaker 1: journey I've been on, I feel like but yeah, I
Speaker 1: was fucking bombed.
Speaker 5: So we we talked about like some things I'm doing creatively,
Speaker 5: you know we're creative. How some scriptwriting and you know
Speaker 5: where I want to go with that. I do have
Speaker 5: to ask this question. I know we kind of talked
Speaker 5: about it earlier and opening this up to everybody. Do
Speaker 5: you think that there should be in today's society there
Speaker 5: is naturally a separation from what you do and what
Speaker 5: you love when it comes to like professionally, like making
Speaker 5: money a lot of times doesn't always align with what
Speaker 5: you love, at least from my peers. Do you think
Speaker 5: naturally a lot of times you have to separate what
Speaker 5: makes money for you from what you love?
Speaker 2: Like do you do? You do?
Speaker 8: You do?
Speaker 7: You always see yourself? You know we're busting with the boys.
Speaker 2: Oh no, come on.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah you got you guys. You guys have gotten
Speaker 1: to Uh. I would text in the group chat about
Speaker 1: doing a podcast of that. We talked about doing a podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, maybe you feel.
Speaker 2: Some uh.
Speaker 5: Exactly there get into the nitty gritty, you know, we
Speaker 5: wouldn't be on a fucking us.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you that we wouldn't be on the bus.
Speaker 2: We wanted, we wanted, uh me and I dabbled about
Speaker 2: it at the thought too. I want to say, we wanted.
Speaker 5: To call it the black and white, black and white,
Speaker 5: keep things black and white, no grain in between, and
Speaker 5: it's a black guy and a white guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's idea. It can still fucking happen now, Like,
Speaker 2: let's not get a.
Speaker 7: Twisted he could definitely.
Speaker 1: Could you see the new facility, we're reeling it in.
Speaker 1: You take you know what you want to do with
Speaker 1: the tiny stuff?
Speaker 7: Dude, I'm writing Atlanta. That's a forty minute flight.
Speaker 2: That's nothing. Bury it all together.
Speaker 7: Hey, yeah we could, We're could, We really could.
Speaker 2: But no, I didn't see myself doing this.
Speaker 1: But I feel I feel weird answer the questions just
Speaker 1: because I've played professional football and made.
Speaker 2: A lot of money, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, so I guess I want to understand more of
Speaker 1: the context, Like do you feel the question is?
Speaker 2: What do you feel?
Speaker 1: Like it's natural to separate how you make money and
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing what you love, Like what's the
Speaker 1: essence of the question.
Speaker 5: So I was actually talking to a lady friend of
Speaker 5: mine and right now is selling life insurance and it's
Speaker 5: not what she really wants to do, but it makes
Speaker 5: a lot of money for you know, she's really an artist,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. She's really good at you know,
Speaker 5: videography work as well, and she does a lot of painting.
Speaker 7: That's what she likes to do to express herself. It
Speaker 7: makes her feel loved.
Speaker 5: But that shit don't make a lot of money sometimes, man,
Speaker 5: like the market for someone who sees themselves as an artist,
Speaker 5: something that's subjectively grated doesn't make a lot of money.
Speaker 5: So she was kind of saying a lot of times
Speaker 5: in America specifically, you have to separate what makes money
Speaker 5: for you from what really makes you feel good as
Speaker 5: a person, you know, And because when you try to,
Speaker 5: when you find yourself in a space where you're doing
Speaker 5: things that you really want and they're not making money
Speaker 5: for you, it can build like this resentment where you're
Speaker 5: looking at what you do it's kind of just like
Speaker 5: not worth.
Speaker 2: It, right.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends on what you
Speaker 1: want out of life, Like sometimes you got to know
Speaker 1: what lane you're getting into, and that resentment you ultimately create.
Speaker 1: Like obviously it sounds like it's easy for me to say,
Speaker 1: because you know, I played football. Now I sit on
Speaker 1: a bus. But if resentment is getting created, I feel
Speaker 1: like your mental is not necessarily in the right spot
Speaker 1: because you're labeling with something whether or not you hate it.
Speaker 1: You're labeling as somebody that's in this. You know, I
Speaker 1: would assume like capitalistic world of how you have to
Speaker 1: make money and if you're truly not happy. Like my wife,
Speaker 1: for instance, she was an accountant making solid money out
Speaker 1: in DC like p PwC does that, like A does
Speaker 1: that not like an accounting okay, one of the bigger
Speaker 1: accounting brands out there. And she was a she was
Speaker 1: a tax accountant, and she had a trajectory of like
Speaker 1: you know, going and you want to make partner and
Speaker 1: you want to make a lot of money. And she
Speaker 1: left being a tax accountant to start managing Bar three studios,
Speaker 1: getting in the fitness because of the whole mind body
Speaker 1: connection all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So she, you know, took a serious.
Speaker 1: Pay cut and wanted to kind of go chase her
Speaker 1: dream of owning a Bar three studio, which one day
Speaker 1: I believe she will. And you know, she's an example
Speaker 1: of somebody who like left something that they didn't enjoy
Speaker 1: doing because they weren't getting what they.
Speaker 2: Wanted out of life.
Speaker 1: I think ultimately you have to ask yourself, like what
Speaker 1: you're wanting out of life?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we played ball, but we knew going to
Speaker 1: college and everything we were putting into Like myself, I
Speaker 1: was a very focused individual, like wanting to play football
Speaker 1: in high school. I feel like I had a good
Speaker 1: head on my shoulders. I had good influences, Like I
Speaker 1: came from a small you know, I won't say Poduck Town, Monta, Missouri,
Speaker 1: say it without saying it, but you're in a small.
Speaker 2: Town where you're.
Speaker 1: Not taught to think outside of small town, not because
Speaker 1: people didn't want to, but you almost don't know how
Speaker 1: to because not a lot of people leave where I
Speaker 1: grew up.
Speaker 2: There was never there.
Speaker 1: You can count on one hand people that went and
Speaker 1: played that went and did something in college on a
Speaker 1: d one level. From athletics, nobody really played professionally. There's
Speaker 1: a punter that played for the Ravens for a long time.
Speaker 1: I forget it. It might have been like Kyle Richardson
Speaker 1: maybe who played for a long time with the Ravens
Speaker 1: that came out of like a few towns over, but
Speaker 1: nobody ever went on and did stuff that you know
Speaker 1: I'm getting to currently do, and like my brother going
Speaker 1: in scholarship or wrestling, like, you're never taught to think
Speaker 1: outside of that element, right, and so I think ultimately
Speaker 1: you need to figure out, like what you want. I
Speaker 1: say that from a fortunate standpoint of like learning young
Speaker 1: that I wanted to put into such an amount of
Speaker 1: work to football to hopefully be a professional football football
Speaker 1: player one day. But I knew, like learning under we
Speaker 1: talk about the process of everything else, you're not a
Speaker 1: summertime guy.
Speaker 2: You're an all the time guy.
Speaker 1: So what I did in football, I knew I needed
Speaker 1: to take the same standards and approach it to what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do next, because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, no one's coming to save you, like no
Speaker 1: one's gonna lay. I've went on about this before I
Speaker 1: got talk about it on Token CEO Erica Nardini's podcast,
Speaker 1: that you don't lay, that saying no one is sharing
Speaker 1: your pillow at night, whether or not you have somebody
Speaker 1: laying next to you, like they can be your biggest
Speaker 1: supporter of all time, but they're not carrying the stress
Speaker 1: that you have going on in your life.
Speaker 2: So unless you figure out like what it is that's.
Speaker 1: Truly eating that you're and truly bothering you, you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to set forth some kind of plan of
Speaker 1: action because, like you said it, like you get to
Speaker 1: a place and fortunately we were playing, you were playing
Speaker 1: in the league to where you knew you were all
Speaker 1: right financially but mentally didn't meet what people saw you
Speaker 1: as right, But you had to wake up one morning
Speaker 1: or on a consistent amount of mornings and kind of
Speaker 1: question like, what am I fucking wanting out of this?
Speaker 1: Because I'm a second round draft pick, I had a
Speaker 1: decent first year, I've gotten injured, I'm downloading the dumps, Like,
Speaker 1: how am I gonna, you know, get myself out of that?
Speaker 1: I think that's ultimately like what people have to do,
Speaker 1: And you might have to take a shitty way at first, right,
Speaker 1: but ultimately, like you have to start with the end
Speaker 1: of mind, like what is the all you want? What
Speaker 1: is the process that's gonna get me there? And again,
Speaker 1: it's easy to say and talk about, but it's truly
Speaker 1: what I've done with anything I've ever I feel like
Speaker 1: I've cultivated in my life, and you got to review
Speaker 1: it and feel it and see it every day, like
Speaker 1: you where you're at mentally because you've built habits of
Speaker 1: waking up with the sun like I'm and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm ignorant of some of this stuff. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: learn about the spiritual side of things. But you talk
Speaker 1: about waking up with the sun like moving your body like.
Speaker 2: You want your play. You want your mental to be
Speaker 2: in a certain place that where you're feeling good no
Speaker 2: matter what's happening in your life. You say your heart
Speaker 2: rate doesn't rise as much anymore. I've seen you post
Speaker 2: photos of you meditating before a game when some people
Speaker 2: like myself are getting amped up. I'm painting my face.
Speaker 2: I'm fucking talking.
Speaker 1: About pre work out like you, You're you're flowing, You're
Speaker 1: in some flow state, right, but you don't get there.
Speaker 1: You had to see what you wanted right, and the
Speaker 1: process for you to get there is like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: change my habits and how I'm gonna review it and
Speaker 1: feel it every day is I'm gonna at my alarm
Speaker 1: at five fifteen. It's gonna go off because it's gonna
Speaker 1: trigger something psychologically in my brain.
Speaker 5: On.
Speaker 1: This is why I'm doing this, and you're doing it
Speaker 1: every day, and these habits have formed over time and
Speaker 1: created and manifested, you know this being that you've wonn
Speaker 1: to mentally spiritually.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the football stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about another form that people might be able
Speaker 1: to relate to. Like, maybe you're in a job that
Speaker 1: you don't like, but there's a side hustle that you're doing.
Speaker 2: That you and some of you guys.
Speaker 1: I would love for you guys to trying to speak
Speaker 1: on it because you guys, you know not you guys
Speaker 1: are in like perception where it could be relative to
Speaker 1: somebody else, Will saying, like all Will's up there, he's
Speaker 1: been a eight year vet, he's sent on a above
Speaker 1: average podcast, you know what I mean. And so I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of something that's relative to everybody else.
Speaker 1: But ultimately it's you got to figure out what you
Speaker 1: want and in all areas, not just financially, because you
Speaker 1: chase money, you're never gonna stop chasing. You know, you
Speaker 1: chase in a certain area, you're never gonna stop chasing.
Speaker 1: I guess, like you say, you can't pull.
Speaker 2: The moon to you. You got to what was the
Speaker 2: rest of that quote. You can't put the move too.
Speaker 1: You got to uh, I don't know, you said something
Speaker 1: fucking beautifully earlier. But it's got to be like a
Speaker 1: cultivation throughout your throughout all of your areas, right, and
Speaker 1: you have to figure out a way to review it.
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in writing shit down. I write
Speaker 1: to myself all the time. I write goals like this podcast.
Speaker 1: It was a small goal now that I think about it,
Speaker 1: But I can take a photo and put it on here.
Speaker 1: But there's a writing in my old journal that was
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and sixteen, I believe, or twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: in April April something, twenty sixteen seventeen that said, I
Speaker 1: want to be one of the first, or I want
Speaker 1: to be the first. I don't know if I was.
Speaker 1: I think we were NFL Active, NFL Player podcast with
Speaker 1: a million downloads. Slash Coach because I've you know, I've
Speaker 1: always had aspirations of coaching.
Speaker 2: I might have because I've shared like.
Speaker 1: Stuff with like, you know, some of my boys that like,
Speaker 1: we always kind of check in with each other. Twenty
Speaker 1: sent me a text like from years back time about
Speaker 1: the podcast and but I've written that shit down, like
Speaker 1: I've written down anything that has kind of transpired. Whether
Speaker 1: or not I've gotten there, it's been like up and
Speaker 1: down because there's also like getting a three earning a
Speaker 1: three year contract, like when I became a starter, was
Speaker 1: able to play a whole season. I didn't attain that,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be something fall short of. But for me personally,
Speaker 1: it's start with the end in mind. Figure out what
Speaker 1: you want, understand what that process looks like. And it
Speaker 1: might be a shittier process than a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Like everyone's gonna have a different win at their sale.
Speaker 1: It's just life like life. It just fucking is what
Speaker 1: it is. No one is coming to save you, whatever
Speaker 1: your situation is. No one's coming to save that except
Speaker 1: you figuring out what you want out of it, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then figuring out how to review and feel it
Speaker 1: every day. Some people might say, hey, that's too ambition driven,
Speaker 1: that's too like you know what you feed your moncy,
Speaker 1: like you want too much, or people sometimes are are
Speaker 1: pushed away from the whole personal development kind of side
Speaker 1: of things because it's very like ambitious, right, And I'm
Speaker 1: learning now recently, I'm saying a lot of different something
Speaker 1: I'm jumping around here.
Speaker 7: No, man, I'm taking a lot from it.
Speaker 5: One thing that really hit me when you were talking
Speaker 5: about you're saying, no one's going to come and save you,
Speaker 5: and kind of going back to the question of like
Speaker 5: do you choose what makes money or do you choose
Speaker 5: what makes you happy? I think a lot of reasons
Speaker 5: why people don't choose what just makes them happy as
Speaker 5: far as like their profession to lead in is because
Speaker 5: they don't want to take the accountability of the self.
Speaker 5: Accountability of like if they fail, because you're because you're
Speaker 5: relying on yourself.
Speaker 7: Like if you're an entrepreneur.
Speaker 5: I know the term gets thrown around a lot now,
Speaker 5: but someone who works for you yourself, builds your own
Speaker 5: you know, your own businesses.
Speaker 7: Everything comes from you.
Speaker 5: Isn't any structure of your job telling you when you
Speaker 5: got to go to work, you know, any programs that's
Speaker 5: saying like this is how we're going to facil irtate
Speaker 5: our business. You have to come up with everything on
Speaker 5: your own, and taking the accountability when is going well
Speaker 5: and when it's not going well is a lot of pressure.
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of people would rather just say,
Speaker 5: you know what, I would rather just fall in line
Speaker 5: and kind of be a little bit miserable on the
Speaker 5: day to day and make a little money on the way,
Speaker 5: as opposed to being liberated spiritually by doing what I've
Speaker 5: set my set out to do but working ten times
Speaker 5: as hard.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the whole entrepreneurial like life is not.
Speaker 1: It's it's not like it's a term that gets thrown
Speaker 1: out there, and like, you know, ninety percent of entrepreneurs
Speaker 1: fail because you got to put to you got to
Speaker 1: put everything into practice, like it is on you. Like like, bro,
Speaker 1: you've done your stuff over theres and you you drop
Speaker 1: stuff in group chats and people share stuff like you
Speaker 1: you've done a you know, multitude of things, right, you've
Speaker 1: sat down with like kids, like you've done some cool
Speaker 1: dope shit real estate, real estate, and you can drop it,
Speaker 1: you can drip and I hope your boys share and
Speaker 1: do things like that. But at the end of the day, bro,
Speaker 1: like nobody cares work harder. And that sounds fucking crazy shit,
Speaker 1: but it is. It's so true. And if you're in
Speaker 1: if your mental's not right about it, like there is
Speaker 1: a spiritual side to it, Like there's there's times where
Speaker 1: I got to sit back, like I'm craving too much,
Speaker 1: I'm desiring too much, and I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: coming from I don't know if it's coming from me
Speaker 1: or an influence of me looking at other shit out there,
Speaker 1: and I'm feeding my soul differently than I need to.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not focusing reading what I want to read.
Speaker 1: I'm scrolling a little bit more. I'm looking at other
Speaker 1: people's pages. I'm like feeding my soul differently. But I
Speaker 1: can get to the root of why I'm getting that way,
Speaker 1: so I can reel it in and be like, comp
Speaker 1: You're not on this trajectory right now. I might see
Speaker 1: something from you seeing you breathing, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: need to get back on my breath work.
Speaker 2: I sit here like I read a breath book and I.
Speaker 1: Did breathing for a month, and now I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell people I breathe now, and then I stop doing
Speaker 1: it for a little bit.
Speaker 2: But oh, I'm on that shit. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You have to check yourself, which goes to one thousand
Speaker 1: percent self accountability. Yes, and you do like where you
Speaker 1: are right now currently is based on literally every decision
Speaker 1: you've made. You might have had some bad fucking situations
Speaker 1: happened to you, but even the way you respond to
Speaker 1: every situation, it's still a choice. It's still something universal
Speaker 1: where the universe is going to continue to lead you
Speaker 1: down that path or leads you back again. We're saying
Speaker 1: a lot of different shit. I hope I'm not jumping
Speaker 1: around too many different spots, but like it ultimately comes
Speaker 1: down to that's a very like it's just a personal question,
Speaker 1: like are you what are you wanting out of it all?
Speaker 1: Because what is success to you?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like that's the million dollar question, Like we always ask
Speaker 1: what success is. At one point in time, for me,
Speaker 1: success was winning a conference title with my boys and
Speaker 1: fucking bench squatting five hundred pounds, Like my goals were
Speaker 1: very self like prophecy type of fucking like ambitious shit
Speaker 1: that have to do only with football and nobody else,
Speaker 1: nothing else going on, Like I want to be the
Speaker 1: best football player.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I look back.
Speaker 1: Now and it's like, man, I was so ego driven
Speaker 1: back then, and they're still ego.
Speaker 2: I carry on all the time, right, I.
Speaker 5: Think if I can, Yeah, Like please, I think every
Speaker 5: I think everything you're saying is part of that lego
Speaker 5: piece that's making will comportonently he is. It's like it
Speaker 5: wasn't that you was just ego driven at that time.
Speaker 5: You were exactly who you needed to be at that time.
Speaker 5: You need to feed that side of yourself to create
Speaker 5: this complete person who you're becoming. You know, it's like
Speaker 5: one thing Like for me, I do, I do believe
Speaker 5: in like the the zodeaction shit like that. I'm a Gemini,
Speaker 5: so like I'm very like it's hard for me to
Speaker 5: focus on one thing sometimes, but I do believe like
Speaker 5: if you really want to be successful, you have to
Speaker 5: focus on one thing at a time, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Like Bruce Lee used to like on one
Speaker 5: thing they said he used to do to train, Like
Speaker 5: his focus is he will watch like water just drip
Speaker 5: from a faucet and try not to think about anything
Speaker 5: anything else but that water dripping from a foster for
Speaker 5: like an hour.
Speaker 7: Could you imagine doing that?
Speaker 5: Like training your focus like that helps you in so
Speaker 5: many other ways and to as we go through the
Speaker 5: ups and downs in life, you may be in a
Speaker 5: space where you identify success as winning a conference championship
Speaker 5: with your buddies or squatting that. And it's not that
Speaker 5: you are a bad person in that time where you
Speaker 5: were selfish or egoic.
Speaker 7: It's just in that moment in time.
Speaker 5: You were crafting that side that makes the whole image
Speaker 5: of who you are the whole, you know, It's just
Speaker 5: it's like one lego piece. It's like Jenga, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. It's like that one piece. You just
Speaker 5: slid that in and then the next phase. Now you're
Speaker 5: working on your family, that's the next you know, the
Speaker 5: way you identify with success. And then once you kind
Speaker 5: of get that slide in, it's always a continuing work.
Speaker 5: You're always going to be doing, you know, construction on
Speaker 5: those areas that you've built. But you know, every piece
Speaker 5: is for specific times. So like I would never identify
Speaker 5: or look at different place the spaces in life where
Speaker 5: I was as if I was over consumed of anything.
Speaker 5: It's like, no, I was exactly where I wanted needed
Speaker 5: to be in that time because I was crafting who
Speaker 5: I am. If I wasn't, if you weren't who you
Speaker 5: were at that time, over consuming like the football shit,
Speaker 5: you probably wouldn't even be here right now.
Speaker 1: You No, I agree, I do agree with that hardly,
Speaker 1: because well, even from in terms of like program development
Speaker 1: with like working out and shit like that, it's like
Speaker 1: we can talk about what would be best for our
Speaker 1: bodies now, but back then, the programs we were doing
Speaker 1: what whatever, whatever thoughts and methodologies are out there about them,
Speaker 1: were needed because of the cultural stuff that's going on
Speaker 1: around the program as well, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you're just we were in such a phase of
Speaker 1: like learning about our own culture and how to create
Speaker 1: like leadership teammate. Like we talk about stuff now like, man,
Speaker 1: these these schools get this off the kids, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm fucking jumping everywhere now, But I
Speaker 1: agree with you that.
Speaker 2: I needed all that stuff back then.
Speaker 1: I feel like it helped kind of create I mean,
Speaker 1: it has helped create who I am now. And I
Speaker 1: think like all of this one's like if you're sitting
Speaker 1: there watching, if you're sitting here watching or listening wherever,
Speaker 1: get your podcast subscriberate five stars.
Speaker 2: It's however you take.
Speaker 1: This in the thought, isn't compare where you're at to
Speaker 1: where you need to be, to where to where you
Speaker 1: should be, to where you have been to where somebody
Speaker 1: else is, or so and so is right, or this
Speaker 1: that the other doesn't matter. What matters is like if
Speaker 1: you want to make a choice to change where you're
Speaker 1: at now, you know what I mean, Like, it's not
Speaker 1: like you can sit there and be like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: is who I was and literally from this moment walking
Speaker 1: out the door, if we wanted to change something else
Speaker 1: about ourselves, we can become that person by building habits
Speaker 1: toward whatever we're thinking. So all all to go back
Speaker 1: to your question of like, how what was it? How
Speaker 1: do you separate separating? Do you think you can do you.
Speaker 5: Think is necessary to separate what makes money for you
Speaker 5: from what makes you happy on like a general you
Speaker 5: know level, because you, like you said, we're we're kind
Speaker 5: of anomalies in a sense, right, people who are who
Speaker 5: did do or are doing the things that they love
Speaker 5: and since they were kids playing football, you know, and
Speaker 5: it also makes money for them. But if we're not
Speaker 5: the you know, we're not the majority, right And in
Speaker 5: that aspect, So do you think it's healthy for people
Speaker 5: to kind of get in the mindset of like, let
Speaker 5: me separate what's making money for me from what actually
Speaker 5: makes me happy, right.
Speaker 2: And I do.
Speaker 1: I think that's such a one on one question for
Speaker 1: yourself because at the end of the day, like when
Speaker 1: we say nobody cares, we're harder, nobody sleeping on your
Speaker 1: pillow night, like no one's going to save you. Like
Speaker 1: another one, like it's a when you realize it's a
Speaker 1: one player game, like I got that one from Mike
Speaker 1: Sutt shout out Mike stud when you realize it's a
Speaker 1: one player game, Like you know, it's it's what you
Speaker 1: want out of life, man, Like it's hard for us
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Speaker 2: JP, What do you think, Jack? You got? I mean, JP,
Speaker 2: I feel like, is then the shit? You know? This
Speaker 2: is how you make money? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it is what I love.
Speaker 8: But I do think it's so much easier for us
Speaker 8: for our generation than it was like our parents' generation.
Speaker 8: They didn't have as much of an opportunity. For my
Speaker 8: entrepreneur side, there wasn't as much money going around. So
Speaker 8: my dad he's doing a job that he doesn't love.
Speaker 8: But it came down to the point where like, hey,
Speaker 8: do I want to support my family or do I
Speaker 8: want to chase my dream in which I wouldn't be
Speaker 8: able to give my family the life I think they deserve.
Speaker 8: And so I think now like we sort of do
Speaker 8: a disservice if we don't chase our passions and dreams
Speaker 8: because the people before us, depending on your situation, created
Speaker 8: the opportunity for us to do to chase our passion
Speaker 8: because they couldn't.
Speaker 7: So that's kind of.
Speaker 2: Where I a good point that.
Speaker 5: Well, So given that example, they sacrifice maybe what they
Speaker 5: wanted to do for the later, what are we sacrificing? Like,
Speaker 5: what what's one thing that we can pinpoint? It's like, okay,
Speaker 5: we're sacrifice.
Speaker 2: That kind of defines our generations going to set.
Speaker 7: Up the next generation?
Speaker 5: Can you identify with anything that you feel like, Yo,
Speaker 5: this is a sacrifice that if I had my way
Speaker 5: would be different, but I'm doing it for the greater good?
Speaker 5: What is that? What is that sacrifice?
Speaker 2: Our own personal sacrifice for them?
Speaker 5: Because we're all like millennials in here, like what what
Speaker 5: are we sacrificing?
Speaker 1: I think there's more blueprints and outlets that allow to
Speaker 1: like tap in. I mean there's so much there's so
Speaker 1: many resources now, you know what I mean, Like, it's
Speaker 1: not about how many resources you have, it's about how
Speaker 1: resource well you can be with what you do have
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, like we we've all gotten,
Speaker 1: we've all had to go through sacrifice and certain like
Speaker 1: you know, muddy waters to get to where we are.
Speaker 1: It's not like you don't want to you don't want
Speaker 1: to create a life to where nobody's not having to
Speaker 1: go through sacrifice. But I you know, I think one
Speaker 1: one thing we're doing is taking the stuff we've learned
Speaker 1: and continuing create more access to people. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, but makes sense to me. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, it was just books, right,
Speaker 1: and then the internet comes. Now you got there were
Speaker 1: a few podcasts. Now there's many podcasts, Like there's so
Speaker 1: many avenues of like it's again, it's sitting with yourself.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's sitting with yourself.
Speaker 1: Like the conversation you have with yourself is the most
Speaker 1: important conversation you can have, because that's how you figure out,
Speaker 1: like you know, the wiser decisions, the decisions that you
Speaker 1: ultimately want, and the resource. Again, the resources are out there,
Speaker 1: so but that's a it's a fucking deep question, like what.
Speaker 2: Are we giving I don't fucking know neither.
Speaker 1: I feel like for me, It's just like all the
Speaker 1: experiences I've had and the consciousness I've been able to have,
Speaker 1: like within learning the things from the from what I
Speaker 1: sponged in high school, from what I got to sponge
Speaker 1: in college, from when I got to sponge around all
Speaker 1: my friendships, from when I got to sponge from my mentors,
Speaker 1: from the pros, from how my mind started to shift
Speaker 1: in balancing both football and life outside of football, and
Speaker 1: taking all of that and now being able to do
Speaker 1: it in a unique way through microphones and you know,
Speaker 1: giving it to people, giving access.
Speaker 2: To people to what before there wasn't a lot of
Speaker 2: access to, like athletes like we have now.
Speaker 1: If I can be some kind of avenue, one of
Speaker 1: the few avenues that allow that and people get something
Speaker 1: out of it, I feel like that's you know, service
Speaker 1: in itself.
Speaker 5: I'll say this going back to what you said with
Speaker 5: the generation before, so was that Generation X whatever that
Speaker 5: was or whatever you know them kind of maybe sacrificing
Speaker 5: not doing what they love to provide for their families.
Speaker 5: I would say something, I guess we inherited from the
Speaker 5: residual opportunity to go to college or whatever we inherited
Speaker 5: from that generation. I say, what we are passing down
Speaker 5: is the power of choice, because we do have a
Speaker 5: generation of people of entrepreneurs, millennials, people who don't have
Speaker 5: to necessarily sacrifice for the family to provide and to
Speaker 5: also love what they do. Let me say that over,
Speaker 5: they don't you don't have to sacrifice what you love
Speaker 5: to do to provide for your family. A lot of
Speaker 5: people are actually doing what they love and you know,
Speaker 5: also providing for their family. And I think what that
Speaker 5: creates for the next generation was a generation Z or
Speaker 5: Y or T where they own. By now generation Z
Speaker 5: is I do see a lot of kids who are
Speaker 5: leading like a lot of campaigns and choice to evoke
Speaker 5: change and you know, things that are really really important.
Speaker 5: So I think, like, I guess what we're passing down
Speaker 5: is the power of choice, saying like, you don't this
Speaker 5: system done not to always be like this if you
Speaker 5: don't want it to be just like you said when
Speaker 5: you you know, like, just like you said, when we
Speaker 5: leave here, we can choose to be a completely different
Speaker 5: person if we want to. And I think that mindset
Speaker 5: was not as unally understood just thirty three years ago, right, you.
Speaker 1: Know, that is why you get some pushbacks sometimes from
Speaker 1: the older generation. It's like, oh, y'all don't get it,
Speaker 1: y'all don't get the sacrifice. Well, the sacrifice is just
Speaker 1: a little different different. That was well said, though, before
Speaker 1: we get off here, because it's been a long fucking pod.
Speaker 1: Been a banger, by the way, subscriber, if starts wherever
Speaker 1: you get your podcast, I do. I I disagree with
Speaker 1: you can only focus on one thing at a time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I disagree with what you're saying that I can't.
Speaker 5: I can't focus on one thing. What I was saying
Speaker 5: is like to get the full which and.
Speaker 1: This is just between me and you. This is just
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this for me to you. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying like, yeah, somebody are you saying I get I
Speaker 1: feel like some of the to me when I think
Speaker 1: about this is my own personal This is my own person.
Speaker 1: Somebody might be different. Some people my name. To operate
Speaker 1: on one thing at a time, yeah, but uh, don't don't.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about a plan B because it deteriorates from
Speaker 1: Plan A. And I'm not as much of leaving that
Speaker 1: as I used to be, just because I feel like
Speaker 1: the way my journey's been in the recent years, is
Speaker 1: I was figuring I was focusing on a plan B.
Speaker 2: Just you got creative.
Speaker 1: I you juggle both ball, you juggle being a professional
Speaker 1: one percent of the one percent. And also you're building
Speaker 1: a brand like you're being an entrepreneur. So like it's
Speaker 1: it's ultimately comes down to prioritizing and how you spend
Speaker 1: I guess your days, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: No, I get that some people list saying do need
Speaker 2: to focus on one thing.
Speaker 7: I do agree with that.
Speaker 5: I do agree with that, And I like that you
Speaker 5: put that where you're saying you can focus on plan B,
Speaker 5: because you hear that all the time, especially when it
Speaker 5: comes to athletes.
Speaker 7: Correct where they're saying, like.
Speaker 5: Focus on school first, you know all that stuff like
Speaker 5: football should be your Plan B.
Speaker 7: I always say that, But I'm just like, no, like.
Speaker 1: The student code until you getting the team meeting. Man,
Speaker 1: it's hey, hey, student athletes, you are say you are
Speaker 1: student athletes?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Right for real?
Speaker 5: You know? But now I definitely agree. I agree that
Speaker 5: because I do a multitude of things myself, and I
Speaker 5: enjoy it because fundamentally I'm the same person in all
Speaker 5: of those things. They all are different strokes of my
Speaker 5: you know, my paint brush, but they're all coming from
Speaker 5: the same fundamental idea of I like to teach people.
Speaker 5: I think I'm a teacher in life, and no matter
Speaker 5: if I'm playing football or shooting someone or writing a script,
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about teaching. And I think it comes down
Speaker 5: to when you ask that great question, that meanion dollar question,
Speaker 5: how do you define success? What is your common denominator
Speaker 5: that you see in everything that you do in life?
Speaker 5: You know, when you're a father, what do you see
Speaker 5: when you're doing bustling with the boys. What do you
Speaker 5: see when you're a husband? What do you see when
Speaker 5: you play football? What do you see? What do all
Speaker 5: those things have in common? What's the common denominator? And
Speaker 5: that success? I'm the same person integrity.
Speaker 1: And that's you Like, that's like your unique ability, unique
Speaker 1: ability as a person, like when you can operate it
Speaker 1: in your just whatever unique ability is, Like, I feel
Speaker 1: like you get a lot of freedom out of that
Speaker 1: real spects. Hey, that was solid, bro, solid?
Speaker 2: Is there anything else?
Speaker 7: No, I'm good man, listen, is some Oh.
Speaker 2: You're you're supposed to play?
Speaker 1: You were gonna you were gonna Also disagree with the
Speaker 1: doing two things at once.
Speaker 2: What were you gonna.
Speaker 7: Say, Yeah, yeah, obviously, yeah, yeah, okay cool.
Speaker 5: What I was saying earlier is a lot of times
Speaker 5: to be like fully successful in the sense of I
Speaker 5: see success of just like Kobe Bryant type of like
Speaker 5: mentality of focus. Yeah, you gotta focus on one thing.
Speaker 5: Gotta that means like the actual actions. Now that's not
Speaker 5: like your whole big scheme of things. Because even Kobe
Speaker 5: was getting oscars and ship, he was doing other ship,
Speaker 5: but when it came to basketball and he's practicing, he's
Speaker 5: focusing on one thing that day. That That's what I've
Speaker 5: been doing. I go in one day and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm focusing on finishing my runs.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: I'm not focusing on all I gotta do this, just
Speaker 5: got do that all these multitude of things. It's like
Speaker 5: today is about finishing runs. Tomorrow like it's about blocking,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. The next day it's about
Speaker 5: if I want to take my game to the next level,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to catch everything one handed in practice today
Speaker 5: they're focused on one thing, and I think that's how
Speaker 5: you sharpen your skills.
Speaker 7: Bruce Lee said this too.
Speaker 5: I keep, you know, taking from Bruce Lee, he didn't
Speaker 5: fear the man that could do a thousand kicks. He
Speaker 5: feared the guy who's gonna do one kick, who did
Speaker 5: a one kick a thousand times, because you know that
Speaker 5: one kick is going to knock your ass out. But
Speaker 5: if you do a whole bunch of kicks, you never
Speaker 5: really mastered any of those kicks. You just did a
Speaker 5: bunch of kicks. But you got one straight kick to
Speaker 5: the chest that you've done a thousand times. That's all
Speaker 5: you need. That's all you need. So and I think
Speaker 5: that's how you really like become successful. It's like focus
Speaker 5: on that one thing every day definitely, you know, type
Speaker 5: into that.
Speaker 1: Yes, now I'm going to you you you spoke some
Speaker 1: wisdom on today's spot.
Speaker 7: Man, That's what I came for.
Speaker 2: I'm very thankful for.
Speaker 5: I'm thankful, bro, It's been a long time coming. I'm
Speaker 5: glad that I can join this aura. I think you
Speaker 5: guys got a beautiful thing going. Man. I would love
Speaker 5: to definitely aymn like and White you could still be
Speaker 5: a thing.
Speaker 7: You can still be a thing, man. But nah, I'm
Speaker 7: mad Taylor wasn't here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 7: I had a couple questions for him, bro, But it
Speaker 7: is what it is.
Speaker 2: I catch you.
Speaker 5: Maybe I'll come back in those days when when I
Speaker 5: when I'm one of my show drops, when my show
Speaker 5: drops in this entire different space.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Whenever you got things like dropping and stuff like that's
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta go on the.
Speaker 2: PR That's what it is.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean, like come back.
Speaker 2: Like you might not understand that, but you gotta go
Speaker 2: on PR runs.
Speaker 7: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: I mean you gotta you gotta start saturating your stuff
Speaker 2: on a lot of different shows, on like a tour.
Speaker 5: That's that's why I gotta get better at it because
Speaker 5: I am naturally like I can talk to people, but
Speaker 5: I'm naturally kind of introverted. And that's probably why he's like,
Speaker 5: you don't drop you in the group chat. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of introverted. Why I keep things closed to
Speaker 5: the chest. Yeah, And that's something I need to break
Speaker 5: out of more. But I see you guys do a
Speaker 5: really good job, like, you know, saturating in a good way.
Speaker 7: You guys just content, you know.
Speaker 2: We appreciate that. Let's shout out to all the boys
Speaker 2: back there.
Speaker 7: You got some apparel I can take with me, you know,
Speaker 7: take one of these pillows not in the box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll send you a box. Okay, cool, cool cool,
Speaker 2: We know how I am with mailing stuff.
Speaker 7: I gotta get to a flight.
Speaker 2: So what time your flight?
Speaker 7: Five forty six, So let me get up out of here.
Speaker 7: Three thirty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah you got a roll. Yeah, I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 8: Brother.
Speaker 2: Hey, I love you.
Speaker 7: I love you too, bro Ah.
Speaker 2: Hopefully Nebraska fans will love it. I know that not.
Speaker 7: They're gonna love this ship. They're gonna love it.