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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. I Dissent.

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Speaker 1: President Biden took off the gloves last night, insisted the

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Speaker 1: American people should dissent from the Supreme Court decision inventing

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Speaker 1: presidential immunity. Said he agreed with Justice Sotomayora's descent and

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Speaker 1: that he too dissented. He attacked Trump by name. He said,

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Speaker 1: because the Supreme Court had done a terrible disservice to

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Speaker 1: this nation by preventing a Trump trial on January sixth,

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Speaker 1: before the election, that therefore the people must decide on Trump.

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Speaker 1: He acknowledged, there are virtually no limits to what a

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Speaker 1: president can do. It was a clear declaration of war

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Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court. It was a clear repositioning of

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Speaker 1: Trump from just an unprincipled political opponent to a genuine

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Speaker 1: menace to our form of government and our form of life.

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Speaker 1: Any president will be free to ignore the law, Biden said.

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Speaker 1: He closed with may God help preserve our democracy. It

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Speaker 1: was strong, it was good, I believe in the references

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Speaker 1: to both the Supreme Court and trumpet was unprecedented, and

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Speaker 1: I hope it was just to start a start of

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Speaker 1: this president forcefully defending the democracy because it is far

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Speaker 1: from enough. Whether it knows it or not, the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court has handed Joe Biden the same nearly limitless power

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Speaker 1: it had created for the use of the Trader Trump.

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Speaker 1: It was nice that he said he would respect the

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Speaker 1: limitations of the presidency, but bluntly he should not. How

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Speaker 1: about pointing it a big print out of presidential immunity

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Speaker 1: and say I'm issuing an executive order establishing six more

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Speaker 1: seats on the Supreme Court and the mandatory Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: ethic Code that goes into effect now, and here are

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Speaker 1: the nominees, and the hearings start tomorrow. And if you

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Speaker 1: want to make a big deal out of it, mister

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Speaker 1: Chief Justice, they will be escorted to their chairs at

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court by Secret Service or the National Guard

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Speaker 1: or whoever. But look, I'm not threatening you current justices.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want any trouble here. I know

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Speaker 1: mister Alito has his own flag. Why not show what

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Speaker 1: presidential immunity means? What, as he said last night, Trump

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Speaker 1: could do with it. But instead of doing the kinds

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Speaker 1: of things Trump intends to do, doing something only one

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Speaker 1: millionth as impactful, something intended for the good of the

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Speaker 1: nation pack the Court put the whorehouse of Alito and

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Speaker 1: Thomas out of business. I am delighted the President dissents

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Speaker 1: and is willing to say so now to put dissent

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Speaker 1: into actions. As to the legal implications, as you know,

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Speaker 1: I am always a glass half full, upbeat, hopeful kind

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Speaker 1: of guy. So what I saw in yesterday's corrupt Supreme

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Speaker 1: Religious Court creating presidential Official Act immunity and transforming a

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Speaker 1: democratic republic into a monarchy the Kingdom of America, I

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Speaker 1: saw the problem solving it, promises President Joe Bid. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: King Biden, the first has the s from the debate

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Speaker 1: last week to deal with a little renomination thingy you

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Speaker 1: may have heard about, continuing pressure to end his bid

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Speaker 1: for reelection because maybe he's not sharp enough to beat

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Speaker 1: Trump or to continue being president. And now this short

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Speaker 1: and not sweet eye dissent creed decur he gave last night.

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Speaker 1: He can fix all of this in a couple of

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Speaker 1: quick steps. If the Court is going to make the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States omnipotent, Joe run with it.

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Speaker 1: Just make up a terrorist threat. If you can't think

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Speaker 1: of one called George W.

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Speaker 2: Bush.

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Speaker 1: He probably still has a few leftover, then officially order

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Speaker 1: Homeland Security Secretary Majorcus to officially postpone the election. And

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Speaker 1: as that mock New York Times editorial headline that appeared

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Speaker 1: yesterday reads, bring in Secretary of Defense Austin and to

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Speaker 1: serve his country, President Biden should drone strike Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's harsh. Just detain Trump, no election, no Trump,

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Speaker 1: no need for a new nominee, no need for any nominee.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's a win, win win, as long as

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Speaker 1: it's official. Oh and if King Biden wants to preclude

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Speaker 1: any further blowback or friction, arrest Chief Justice Roberts and

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Speaker 1: Justices Alito and Thomas and gorstch Cavanaugh and Barrett and

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Speaker 1: everybody in the Federalist Society and Kirsten Constitutional Karen Cinema,

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Speaker 1: who stopped filibuster reform, and the New York Times editorial board.

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Speaker 1: And what the hell those pods save America bastards. Arrest

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Speaker 1: those pods, save America bastards. Plenty of seats in the

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Speaker 1: bus boys. Oh on, cat Turd, Arrest cat Turd. I mean,

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Speaker 1: who's going to stop him? That's the whole point. Official

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Speaker 1: means official. I know what you're saying, you're being hyperbolic,

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Speaker 1: aren't you, Gabby Alderman, am I am? I really? When

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Speaker 1: the President quote uses his official powers in any way,

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Speaker 1: under the majority's reasoning, he now will be insulated from

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Speaker 1: criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy sealed Team six to assassinate

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Speaker 1: a political rival, Immune organizes a military coup to hold

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Speaker 1: on to power. Immune takes a bribe in exchange for

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Speaker 1: a pardon Immune Immune, Immune Immune from as you already know,

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Speaker 1: Justice Sodomyor's dissent, with which the President agreed, the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court has now thrown out two hundred and forty eight

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Speaker 1: years of American history. More really, and done so at

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Speaker 1: the start of the week in which we are to

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Speaker 1: celebrate that two hundred and forty eighth birthday. As Sotomayor

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Speaker 1: also noted, Alexander Hamilton himself was specific about the necessity

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Speaker 1: to have a former president all former presidents, be subject

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Speaker 1: to possible prosecution for any crimes he committed in office,

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Speaker 1: because that would be one of the key distinctions between

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Speaker 1: the new United States and the Kingdom of Great Britain,

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Speaker 1: from which we had to stage a revolution to free ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Their king was sacred and inviolable, our president would be

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Speaker 1: subject to personal punishment and disgrace. It's as if Alexander

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Speaker 1: Hamilton met Trump. But that's all gone now. We are

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Speaker 1: a monarchy. And if you can't prove that the president

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Speaker 1: was not acting in an official capacity when he killed

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Speaker 1: that guy or threatened that Georgia secretary of State, or

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Speaker 1: lied about how deadly COVID was, you can't prosecute him.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you think that, like seven

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Speaker 1: eighths of the Supreme Court's corruptly partisan task here was

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Speaker 1: to stall for Trump, that's true, but it may be

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Speaker 1: a little low as a figure because they managed to

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Speaker 1: pack in two further stalls for Trump that could postpone

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Speaker 1: the election subversion case not only into next year, but

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Speaker 1: maybe beyond that. The new legal standard for prosecuting him

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Speaker 1: is no longer can you prove there is reasonable evidence

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Speaker 1: that he tried to foment an insurrection against the peaceful

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Speaker 1: transfer of power where he tried to prevent an election counting.

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Speaker 1: It's whether or not you can prove he thought he

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Speaker 1: was acting officially, And how will you do that? Well?

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Speaker 1: Trump can sue over every action that a court declares

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Speaker 1: was unofficial. Each count based on unofficial conduct. He can

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Speaker 1: just sue another stall, add months to the delay Trump,

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Speaker 1: and add months more after that. Because the time bomb

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Speaker 1: hiding behind that hidden time bomb is the additional finding

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Speaker 1: by this court that would make the government of Iran blush.

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Speaker 1: If you do somehow sneak a charge past the giant

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Speaker 1: rubber that John Roberts just wrapped around Trump's head, if

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Speaker 1: you do find something unofficial with which to charge him,

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Speaker 1: you cannot use as evidence anything that he did related

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Speaker 1: to that charge that was itself part of an official act.

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Speaker 1: The easiest comp for this is Richard Nixon's strenuous exertions

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Speaker 1: ending stupidity to give him one. They were utterly unnecessary.

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Speaker 1: The Watergate cover up was based on the lie that

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Speaker 1: to tell the DOJ to drop the investigation. That was

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Speaker 1: a crime in nineteen seventy two. As of yesterday, it's

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Speaker 1: every part of the cover up, like every meeting he

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Speaker 1: had with John Dean, all the ones Nixon moronically recorded

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Speaker 1: for posterity all those times he bugged himself. A prosecutor

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Speaker 1: could not use any of that as evidence against Nixon,

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Speaker 1: as John himself posted yesterday, When the president does it,

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Speaker 1: that means that it is not illegal. Richard Nixon nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy four, affirmed US Supreme Court twenty twenty four. The response.

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Speaker 1: Besides the presidents, the official Senate Judiciary Committee social media

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Speaker 1: feed sent out three strongly worded posts. And when I

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Speaker 1: say strongly worded, I mean not strongly worded. Breaking. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Justice Thomas and Justice Alito brazenly refuse to accuse themselves

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Speaker 1: from Donald trump immunity case, despite repeated calls to do so.

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Speaker 1: Mister Chief Justice, we need an enforceable code of conduct

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Speaker 1: for all Supreme Court justices. Oh did you send this

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Speaker 1: while you were begging. Not only does that sound like

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Speaker 1: it was sent by a eunuch like Judiciary Committee Chair

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Speaker 1: Dick Durbin, but it was not posted until roughly five

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Speaker 1: hours after the ruling was posted. There is no easier

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Speaker 1: do if he has returned to power, and about which

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Speaker 1: the court indemnified him yesterday. Government assassinations of his rivals,

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Speaker 1: minimum prisons, bribes for pardons. Oh yeah, Guliani said, Trump

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Speaker 1: already did that last time, and we haven't even started

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Speaker 1: talking about the deportation of millions of Americans. These crazy, unbelievable, unimaginable,

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Speaker 1: unretractable things are going to happen now in America, now

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Speaker 1: will not be done for the good of the people.

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Speaker 1: President Biden, they might as well be done by the

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Speaker 1: Roberts and Alito and Thomas thought they would be leaving

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Speaker 1: comes to that next January. I mean, if you can

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Speaker 1: make it sound official, you can do anything anything. Lincoln

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Speaker 1: violated the Constitution to save it. You should do the same.

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Speaker 1: If that's where we are, I'd rather have you doing

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Speaker 1: mister president. When the president does it, that means that

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Speaker 1: it is not illegal. So long as it's official. You

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Speaker 1: her read You can right now order Navy Sealed Team

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Speaker 1: six to assassinate a political rival. Certainly you thought about

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Speaker 1: you have made her the new Chief Justice and you

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Speaker 1: got her some extra Yankees tickets, she'd agree. It's an

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Speaker 1: unlimited number of political rivals. Let's get cracking. Round them up,

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Speaker 1: keep them dogies rolling, move them on, hit them, uphait

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Speaker 1: have a lot on its plate, and you're going to

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Speaker 1: need at least six new Supreme Court nominees, the six

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Speaker 1: additional seats I suggested, and six new ones to replace

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Speaker 1: the ones who were headed to the Huscal. I mean.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, Trump reposted somebody else's graphic with a picture

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Speaker 1: of her and quote, Elizabeth Lynn Cheney is guilty of

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Speaker 1: treason read truth if you want televised military tribunals. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Trump and the fascists want televised military budals, Let's give

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Speaker 1: him some televised military tribunals anchored by Jake Tapper and

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Speaker 1: Dana Bash. I'm sure they'd be happy to do it,

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Speaker 1: as long as you promised to type out on little

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Speaker 1: I'll stop, and now we have a new king unless

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Speaker 1: he abdicates and lets the vice King have the nomination.

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Speaker 1: I remain agnostic about this Biden nomination crisis. Is it

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Speaker 1: still the lead story after yesterday? I want what wins?

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Speaker 1: Newest polling from Morning Consult data obtained over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: the percentage of Democratic voters who believe Joe Biden is

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Speaker 1: mentally fit is down nine points to sixty eight percent.

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Speaker 1: They have not polled since last night's speech. I suspect

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Speaker 1: it would bounce back up again. USA Today and Suffolk

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Speaker 1: University poll. Forty one percent of Democrats want a different nominee.

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Speaker 1: where he majored in Political Silence Science. Should have been

429
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Speaker 1: political silence. Let's go in and edit that so it

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Speaker 1: says he is a nineteen ninety one graduate of Williams College,

431
00:30:40,115 --> 00:30:43,475
Speaker 1: where He majored in political silence who likes to edit

432
00:30:43,515 --> 00:30:49,075
Speaker 1: Wikipedia pages. Dealanian the actual entry reads played football at

433
00:30:49,075 --> 00:30:53,195
Speaker 1: Williams and is credited with a major role in helping

434
00:30:53,395 --> 00:30:58,635
Speaker 1: the f Men achieve their first unbeaten and untied season

435
00:30:58,675 --> 00:31:04,515
Speaker 1: in a century. Ooh, Where'd you get drafted? Kenny deans

436
00:31:04,675 --> 00:31:08,475
Speaker 1: Fir's position after graduating from Williams was at the Philadelphia Inquirer.

437
00:31:08,715 --> 00:31:11,355
Speaker 1: According to Delaney, in his first published article at the

438
00:31:11,395 --> 00:31:15,275
Speaker 1: Inquirer was a story on a pet funeral. See when

439
00:31:15,355 --> 00:31:18,075
Speaker 1: you find what you're good at that early in your career,

440
00:31:18,355 --> 00:31:21,115
Speaker 1: you should stick to it. Don't get in over your

441
00:31:21,115 --> 00:31:27,115
Speaker 1: head on justice and intelligence, especially not intelligence if you

442
00:31:27,155 --> 00:31:31,155
Speaker 1: don't have any. The Bronze Matthew Beloney of Puck News

443
00:31:31,195 --> 00:31:34,635
Speaker 1: and editor in chief Ben Smith of Semaphore News. When

444
00:31:34,675 --> 00:31:37,235
Speaker 1: you and I worry that the established legacy media in

445
00:31:37,275 --> 00:31:40,595
Speaker 1: this country is out of touch and disconnected from reality

446
00:31:40,915 --> 00:31:44,835
Speaker 1: and it's lost, we know we can turn to the newcomers,

447
00:31:45,115 --> 00:31:49,435
Speaker 1: the digitals, the rule benders, and we get exactly the

448
00:31:49,475 --> 00:31:52,235
Speaker 1: same crap from the newcomers, the digitals and the rule benders.

449
00:31:52,235 --> 00:31:55,075
Speaker 1: I've written for Beloney and the venue may be new,

450
00:31:55,075 --> 00:31:57,835
Speaker 1: but the sentiment is still the disaster. That is, we

451
00:31:57,995 --> 00:32:00,275
Speaker 1: know everything about the story, but nothing about what it

452
00:32:00,355 --> 00:32:04,035
Speaker 1: means in real life. He has tweeted that he and

453
00:32:04,075 --> 00:32:06,515
Speaker 1: Smith were to share a podcast in which they would

454
00:32:06,555 --> 00:32:11,315
Speaker 1: discuss the real news in the Joe Biden crisis quote.

455
00:32:11,435 --> 00:32:14,035
Speaker 1: It's an election year, but CNN has been in a

456
00:32:14,115 --> 00:32:18,675
Speaker 1: ratings free fall. That Joe Biden's situation could finally provide

457
00:32:18,675 --> 00:32:24,475
Speaker 1: a story with massive general interest. Listen, Yes, that's what's

458
00:32:24,595 --> 00:32:30,595
Speaker 1: important here CNN's ratings. How the Biden story could impact

459
00:32:30,915 --> 00:32:36,595
Speaker 1: CNN's ratings, because that's what they've been missing, a good story.

460
00:32:36,715 --> 00:32:39,435
Speaker 1: There hasn't been a good story at all during the

461
00:32:39,475 --> 00:32:42,515
Speaker 1: prosecution of the former president of the United States in

462
00:32:42,795 --> 00:32:45,915
Speaker 1: four different venues. There hasn't been a good story at all.

463
00:32:45,955 --> 00:32:48,555
Speaker 1: With climate change, there's been a good They don't have

464
00:32:48,595 --> 00:32:51,995
Speaker 1: any good anchors on CNN, and they lurched right words

465
00:32:51,995 --> 00:32:55,755
Speaker 1: two years ago. That's why the ratings tanked. But you

466
00:32:55,835 --> 00:32:57,995
Speaker 1: know what would be even better for CNN than just

467
00:32:58,075 --> 00:33:01,635
Speaker 1: Biden and the nomination issue. That could just shoot their

468
00:33:01,715 --> 00:33:05,915
Speaker 1: ratings up to mediocre. Like if there were a really

469
00:33:05,955 --> 00:33:09,475
Speaker 1: big asteroid with a ninety nine percent chance of hitting

470
00:33:09,515 --> 00:33:13,595
Speaker 1: Earth Man the CNN ratings would just explode. Of course,

471
00:33:13,635 --> 00:33:16,755
Speaker 1: we'd never actually see those final CNN ratings because the

472
00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:19,275
Speaker 1: planet would have exploded by then too. But think of

473
00:33:19,315 --> 00:33:24,755
Speaker 1: the demos. The runner up, Ralph Nader. You remember, Ralph.

474
00:33:25,475 --> 00:33:29,435
Speaker 1: You remember two thousand when Bush beat Gore in Florida

475
00:33:29,515 --> 00:33:32,675
Speaker 1: by five hundred and thirty seven votes, which led to

476
00:33:32,715 --> 00:33:36,675
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court decision that took the election for Bush.

477
00:33:37,075 --> 00:33:41,475
Speaker 1: But Ralph's vanity third party campaign earned him ninety seven

478
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Speaker 1: thousand votes in Florida, and research, repeated research has suggested

479
00:33:46,795 --> 00:33:52,395
Speaker 1: an overwhelming majority of them were drawn from likely Gore voters. Ralph, though,

480
00:33:52,395 --> 00:33:55,555
Speaker 1: has apparently forgotten about that or forgotten that he ran

481
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Speaker 1: for president in two thousand, because he responded to the

482
00:33:58,395 --> 00:34:03,715
Speaker 1: Supreme Court yesterday by blaming a different presidential candidate, not himself.

483
00:34:04,915 --> 00:34:08,915
Speaker 1: A dictatorial unelected majority in the Supreme Court has just

484
00:34:09,035 --> 00:34:13,555
Speaker 1: rendered America a dictatorial president above the law. Thank you,

485
00:34:14,475 --> 00:34:20,035
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, whose blundering campaign let the dictatorial Trump become

486
00:34:20,155 --> 00:34:23,795
Speaker 1: president and led to a right wing dictatorial majority on

487
00:34:23,955 --> 00:34:30,795
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Honestly, as Ellie Mistyle pointed out, you know,

488
00:34:30,915 --> 00:34:34,275
Speaker 1: the Conservatives have been running the Supreme Court since the

489
00:34:34,315 --> 00:34:38,795
Speaker 1: Bush years. Right, at least if Ralph had not run

490
00:34:38,835 --> 00:34:43,595
Speaker 1: his useless, cynical, dynamite juggling third party campaign in two thousand.

491
00:34:43,835 --> 00:34:47,715
Speaker 1: As Ellie pointed out, maybe Chief Justice John Roberts, appointed

492
00:34:47,755 --> 00:34:53,715
Speaker 1: by Bush is not there to write yesterday's swill. Honestly,

493
00:34:54,195 --> 00:34:59,595
Speaker 1: this so pisces me off. The unbelievable blaming of Hillary

494
00:34:59,635 --> 00:35:03,035
Speaker 1: Clinton for this that I would wish harm on Ralph

495
00:35:03,235 --> 00:35:06,515
Speaker 1: for writing that. Bud ninety And you know, since age

496
00:35:06,555 --> 00:35:10,715
Speaker 1: is everything these days, Tick tick tick, buddy, But our

497
00:35:10,755 --> 00:35:13,915
Speaker 1: winner the worst. And I don't know about you, but

498
00:35:14,075 --> 00:35:20,275
Speaker 1: I need this burst of nostalgia Billow the clown. Here's

499
00:35:20,355 --> 00:35:23,955
Speaker 1: a Biden update from billoreilly dot com news headquarters. The

500
00:35:24,075 --> 00:35:26,995
Speaker 1: decision has been made that the President will quit the

501
00:35:27,035 --> 00:35:32,355
Speaker 1: campaign two reasons. Democrat internal polling says he cannot recover

502
00:35:32,395 --> 00:35:36,275
Speaker 1: from the debate and fundraising is drying up. So it's

503
00:35:36,315 --> 00:35:39,195
Speaker 1: over for Joe, but the White House doesn't yet know

504
00:35:39,275 --> 00:35:45,715
Speaker 1: how or when to make the announcement. Stay close, Stay close,

505
00:35:45,835 --> 00:35:49,355
Speaker 1: is what he used to say to his producers, the women. Okay,

506
00:35:49,395 --> 00:35:52,675
Speaker 1: what are the odds that Billow doesn't realize He's not

507
00:35:52,875 --> 00:35:55,355
Speaker 1: on Fox every night anymore? And that he puts on

508
00:35:55,435 --> 00:35:58,755
Speaker 1: makeup anyway around seven forty five PM. I mean, look,

509
00:35:58,795 --> 00:36:02,075
Speaker 1: I'm not on TV anymore either, but I still don't

510
00:36:02,195 --> 00:36:05,795
Speaker 1: make stuff up like a Biden up. From Billoreilly dot

511
00:36:05,875 --> 00:36:10,875
Speaker 1: com News headquarters. It's a tent in the yard, except

512
00:36:10,915 --> 00:36:13,995
Speaker 1: when we live stream from iHeart headquarters. I do the

513
00:36:14,075 --> 00:36:18,475
Speaker 1: Countdown podcast in this converted walk in in my home,

514
00:36:18,835 --> 00:36:20,955
Speaker 1: which by the way, has the best acoustics I've ever

515
00:36:20,995 --> 00:36:23,795
Speaker 1: gotten to use. And I do not call it Countdown

516
00:36:23,875 --> 00:36:28,315
Speaker 1: with Keith Olderman dot comnewsheadquarters because that would be stupid.

517
00:36:29,555 --> 00:36:33,275
Speaker 1: It's where I keep a few suits, keep a few

518
00:36:33,315 --> 00:36:36,355
Speaker 1: more than I need, largely to improve the sound quality

519
00:36:36,355 --> 00:36:41,035
Speaker 1: in here. Since I saw this Bill o Biden update,

520
00:36:41,515 --> 00:36:44,275
Speaker 1: I have spent way too much time wondering what the

521
00:36:44,275 --> 00:36:49,835
Speaker 1: physical layout is like at Bill Oreilly dot com News headquarters.

522
00:36:50,395 --> 00:36:52,555
Speaker 1: I really don't have a good picture in my mind.

523
00:36:53,515 --> 00:36:56,115
Speaker 1: But if I refer back to the lawsuit, the testimony

524
00:36:56,115 --> 00:36:59,715
Speaker 1: and the Andrea Macris sexual harrissment suit against Billow, I

525
00:36:59,755 --> 00:37:03,035
Speaker 1: suspect that whatever the rest of it looks like, Bill

526
00:37:03,035 --> 00:37:06,675
Speaker 1: O'Reilly dot com News headquarters is equipped with some falafels

527
00:37:07,155 --> 00:37:14,315
Speaker 1: and at least one very well used vibrator.

528
00:37:15,395 --> 00:37:16,155
Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly.

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00:37:16,995 --> 00:37:20,275
Speaker 1: The crowds may be gone, but the lies linger forever

530
00:37:20,555 --> 00:37:44,235
Speaker 1: Today's worst person the loved right job, mister Merrihoffer. On Monday,

531
00:37:44,355 --> 00:37:49,475
Speaker 1: July second, nineteen seventy nine, a man named Maury Trumbull

532
00:37:50,075 --> 00:37:53,315
Speaker 1: walked into his boss's office at United Press International in

533
00:37:53,355 --> 00:37:56,435
Speaker 1: the old Daily News Building in New York and quit.

534
00:37:57,355 --> 00:38:00,355
Speaker 1: He had been offered a real job as the sports

535
00:38:00,355 --> 00:38:03,075
Speaker 1: director of the NBC Radio network, and he would happily

536
00:38:03,115 --> 00:38:05,355
Speaker 1: finish out the next two weeks as this sports director

537
00:38:05,915 --> 00:38:10,835
Speaker 1: of UPI's radio network, and then by and Maury's boss

538
00:38:11,395 --> 00:38:16,555
Speaker 1: was screwed. Maury's boss had three sportscasters. Trumbull was not

539
00:38:16,675 --> 00:38:19,315
Speaker 1: just the boss. He also did the evening sportscasting shift,

540
00:38:19,395 --> 00:38:21,915
Speaker 1: like four or five days a week, And just four

541
00:38:21,915 --> 00:38:25,195
Speaker 1: months earlier they had moved one of the sportscasters over

542
00:38:25,235 --> 00:38:27,515
Speaker 1: to be the new business reporter, and to replace him,

543
00:38:27,515 --> 00:38:30,235
Speaker 1: they had to listen to the audition tapes of two

544
00:38:30,635 --> 00:38:34,875
Speaker 1: hundred sportscasters from across the country, and not one of

545
00:38:34,915 --> 00:38:38,395
Speaker 1: them was really any good, not even as good as

546
00:38:38,395 --> 00:38:41,355
Speaker 1: Mary Trumbull, And so they hired the least bad of

547
00:38:41,395 --> 00:38:43,515
Speaker 1: them and they were hoping for the best, and suddenly

548
00:38:43,555 --> 00:38:47,355
Speaker 1: the new guy was the second senior man on the staff.

549
00:38:48,595 --> 00:38:51,395
Speaker 1: And even though you have not heard of UPI's radio

550
00:38:51,435 --> 00:38:54,075
Speaker 1: network except when I've mentioned it in this series, it

551
00:38:54,235 --> 00:38:58,155
Speaker 1: was a very big deal. On July second, nineteen seventy nine,

552
00:38:58,195 --> 00:39:01,075
Speaker 1: there were about one thousand radio stations affiliated with it

553
00:39:01,115 --> 00:39:03,515
Speaker 1: in this country, and though few of them were in

554
00:39:03,555 --> 00:39:07,595
Speaker 1: the top fifty city and fewer still ran the sports

555
00:39:07,635 --> 00:39:10,275
Speaker 1: cast that Mary Trumbull and Sam Rosan and Jack Russell

556
00:39:10,355 --> 00:39:13,995
Speaker 1: did in those fifty cities, the smaller the market was,

557
00:39:14,115 --> 00:39:18,195
Speaker 1: the bigger the star Moury and Sam and now Jack were.

558
00:39:19,915 --> 00:39:21,795
Speaker 1: And what made it worse, of course, was that it

559
00:39:21,915 --> 00:39:24,915
Speaker 1: was Monday, July second, which meant the actual Fourth of

560
00:39:24,995 --> 00:39:28,275
Speaker 1: July holiday was Wednesday, which meant that nobody, but nobody

561
00:39:28,315 --> 00:39:31,675
Speaker 1: would be in the office almost anywhere in American radio

562
00:39:31,795 --> 00:39:34,755
Speaker 1: for at least the next few days. And in those

563
00:39:34,955 --> 00:39:38,315
Speaker 1: times when the long three day weekend when he had

564
00:39:38,355 --> 00:39:44,835
Speaker 1: got Monday off, was just becoming acceptable, this thing July fourth,

565
00:39:44,835 --> 00:39:46,435
Speaker 1: in the middle of the week was an excuse for

566
00:39:46,475 --> 00:39:48,835
Speaker 1: a four day weekend or a five day weekend, or

567
00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:52,115
Speaker 1: I'll just take the whole week off and that meant

568
00:39:52,395 --> 00:39:56,115
Speaker 1: whoever would be doing Mary Trumble's UPI sports casts as

569
00:39:56,155 --> 00:40:00,635
Speaker 1: of Monday, July sixteenth, nineteen seventy nine. He basically could

570
00:40:00,675 --> 00:40:04,675
Speaker 1: not currently have a job because he'd have to quit

571
00:40:05,515 --> 00:40:07,955
Speaker 1: because when he quitted, he would have to give two

572
00:40:08,035 --> 00:40:11,515
Speaker 1: weeks notice. And even if Maury's boss figured out who

573
00:40:11,555 --> 00:40:14,755
Speaker 1: to hire in the next hour and got him approved

574
00:40:14,795 --> 00:40:17,595
Speaker 1: by his own boss, there was literally no way the

575
00:40:17,595 --> 00:40:20,115
Speaker 1: new guy could start on the sixteenth, and he'd have

576
00:40:20,155 --> 00:40:22,515
Speaker 1: to get his boss's approval. Then he didn't know where

577
00:40:22,515 --> 00:40:24,515
Speaker 1: his boss was because his boss was taking like an

578
00:40:24,555 --> 00:40:26,875
Speaker 1: eight day weekend. So now Maury Trumble's boss was looking

579
00:40:26,915 --> 00:40:29,795
Speaker 1: at the new guy starting no sooner than July twenty third,

580
00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:33,875
Speaker 1: or he suddenly realized, with a shudder, what if the

581
00:40:33,915 --> 00:40:37,275
Speaker 1: new guy had to move to New York from anywhere

582
00:40:37,315 --> 00:40:41,755
Speaker 1: further away from them than like Albany or Jersey or something.

583
00:40:43,275 --> 00:40:46,835
Speaker 1: So that's when Maury Trumble's boss, well, he thought that

584
00:40:46,955 --> 00:40:50,075
Speaker 1: wasn't true anymore. He was Mary Trumble's ex boss, wasn't he.

585
00:40:50,355 --> 00:40:52,755
Speaker 1: For all the trouble Maury had just caused him, at

586
00:40:52,835 --> 00:40:56,515
Speaker 1: least that part was good news. Maury Trumble's X boss

587
00:40:56,555 --> 00:41:00,035
Speaker 1: made his decision. I'll just hire that kid from Westchester.

588
00:41:00,275 --> 00:41:03,075
Speaker 1: Stan Sabek said to himself, I don't know how I'll

589
00:41:03,075 --> 00:41:05,315
Speaker 1: convince Shortino to take on a kid with absolutely no

590
00:41:05,355 --> 00:41:09,955
Speaker 1: full time professional experience, but I'll figure it out. Stan

591
00:41:10,075 --> 00:41:13,755
Speaker 1: Sabek was the bureau chief of UPI Audio, and Shortino

592
00:41:14,395 --> 00:41:17,755
Speaker 1: was his boss, Frank Shortino the network general manager. And

593
00:41:17,795 --> 00:41:22,195
Speaker 1: Frank was already old enough to really dislike anybody much

594
00:41:22,315 --> 00:41:25,395
Speaker 1: younger than he was, which is why the youngest person

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00:41:25,515 --> 00:41:28,675
Speaker 1: in the New York headquarters that day was thirty three,

596
00:41:29,315 --> 00:41:33,395
Speaker 1: and Schortino didn't really trust her. And suddenly it came

597
00:41:33,435 --> 00:41:37,995
Speaker 1: to him, and Stan Sabek smiled. He rolled that phrase

598
00:41:38,075 --> 00:41:42,275
Speaker 1: over in his head, no full time professional experience, and

599
00:41:42,355 --> 00:41:44,955
Speaker 1: he smiled again. My god, we only have to pay

600
00:41:44,955 --> 00:41:47,835
Speaker 1: the kids sixteen thousand a year. We'll save thirty grand

601
00:41:47,835 --> 00:41:52,755
Speaker 1: on salary. My mother did not even step out into

602
00:41:52,795 --> 00:41:56,115
Speaker 1: the warmth and the bright sunshine of the pre holiday afternoon.

603
00:41:56,555 --> 00:42:00,395
Speaker 1: Keith Phone, I was lying there on our very sketchy

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00:42:00,435 --> 00:42:03,995
Speaker 1: front lawn, listening to my home built walkman and working

605
00:42:03,995 --> 00:42:06,395
Speaker 1: on my tank, and trying not to think of the

606
00:42:06,395 --> 00:42:08,075
Speaker 1: fact that it was now the week of July fourth,

607
00:42:08,075 --> 00:42:11,435
Speaker 1: which was the deadline I had given myself for just

608
00:42:11,475 --> 00:42:15,235
Speaker 1: sitting around working on my tan after I surprised myself

609
00:42:15,315 --> 00:42:18,155
Speaker 1: and my family and my friends, and especially my professors

610
00:42:18,435 --> 00:42:22,075
Speaker 1: by actually graduating from Cornell on time in seven semesters,

611
00:42:22,115 --> 00:42:24,795
Speaker 1: the last of which contained twenty eight credits in ten

612
00:42:24,835 --> 00:42:28,275
Speaker 1: different courses, a juggling act so arduous that I will still,

613
00:42:28,355 --> 00:42:31,355
Speaker 1: all these years later have dreams in which it is

614
00:42:31,475 --> 00:42:35,075
Speaker 1: graduation morning, May twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine, and I

615
00:42:35,115 --> 00:42:37,715
Speaker 1: suddenly realized I have forgotten an entire course, and I

616
00:42:37,795 --> 00:42:40,555
Speaker 1: must read three thousand pages or write five hundred pages

617
00:42:40,635 --> 00:42:43,315
Speaker 1: or both before noon, or I will not graduate on time,

618
00:42:43,635 --> 00:42:45,235
Speaker 1: and I will have to go back and start all

619
00:42:45,275 --> 00:42:48,715
Speaker 1: over again. In well, if it's a really stressful period

620
00:42:48,715 --> 00:42:50,315
Speaker 1: of time in my life, I will have to go

621
00:42:50,395 --> 00:42:54,035
Speaker 1: back and start all over again in the third grade

622
00:42:55,075 --> 00:43:02,515
Speaker 1: as an adult in those chairs, missus Weiner, I'm stuck

623
00:43:02,555 --> 00:43:08,635
Speaker 1: in the chair again, possibly because I'm sixty four years old, Keith,

624
00:43:08,635 --> 00:43:13,875
Speaker 1: it's Roger Norum. My heart suddenly raced. Roger Norum was

625
00:43:13,915 --> 00:43:16,675
Speaker 1: my contact at a radio network i'd basically known nothing

626
00:43:16,715 --> 00:43:20,995
Speaker 1: about even three months earlier. It was called UPI Audio

627
00:43:21,155 --> 00:43:22,835
Speaker 1: a friend of a friend of a friend of a

628
00:43:22,875 --> 00:43:25,435
Speaker 1: friend had referred me to a news editor there named

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Speaker 1: Art Mcalloon. And I went into the UPI Audio offices

630
00:43:29,315 --> 00:43:34,155
Speaker 1: on forty second Street in my best suit, with absolutely

631
00:43:34,275 --> 00:43:37,195
Speaker 1: no worry that I'd ever forget a name like Art Mcalloon,

632
00:43:37,955 --> 00:43:40,315
Speaker 1: And out came a very quiet man with a kind

633
00:43:40,395 --> 00:43:42,555
Speaker 1: face and a big round beard and a big round,

634
00:43:42,555 --> 00:43:44,675
Speaker 1: curly head of hair. And he proceeded to explain very

635
00:43:44,795 --> 00:43:48,635
Speaker 1: quietly that he was not Art Mcalloon. And Art had quit,

636
00:43:49,395 --> 00:43:53,115
Speaker 1: but not before passing me on to him Roger Norum.

637
00:43:54,275 --> 00:43:56,395
Speaker 1: Before I knew it, Roger had in turn passed me

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00:43:56,435 --> 00:43:59,675
Speaker 1: on to a sportscaster named Sam Rosen. I have introduced

639
00:43:59,715 --> 00:44:02,475
Speaker 1: you to him here before. He made such an impression

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Speaker 1: on me that my last Cornell English paper was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a quick profile of somebody interesting I had

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00:44:08,475 --> 00:44:11,555
Speaker 1: just met, and I chose Sam over somebody else I

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00:44:11,555 --> 00:44:13,795
Speaker 1: had met the same day, and the other guy was

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Speaker 1: named Bob Iger. Anyway, Sam had been startled at the

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Speaker 1: tape of my college sports casts and had pronounced it

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Speaker 1: twice as good as the guy they had just hired,

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Speaker 1: who was now Stan Sabek's second senior sportscaster. And before

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Speaker 1: I knew it, Sam had given the tape to Stan,

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Speaker 1: and Stan had invited me back into New York for

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Speaker 1: a formal interview. And Stan had said, you will hear

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Speaker 1: this a lot in this business, but give me a

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Speaker 1: little time. I think I can guarantee you six seven

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Speaker 1: weeks of vacation relief this summer, some sports, some news,

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind doing both. Roger Norm had some

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Speaker 1: interesting news for me on that phone call. You may

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Speaker 1: have guessed it was about Mary Trumbull resigning from UPI

657
00:44:55,115 --> 00:44:57,875
Speaker 1: and going to NBC. It's the talk of the place

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Speaker 1: right now. He's already packing. They'll have to move fast,

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Speaker 1: and then with the holiday, there's no way they can

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Speaker 1: bring in people for interviews or have a full search

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Speaker 1: to replace him. You should give him till Thursday the

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Speaker 1: fifth and then and call Stan unless he calls you first.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they really loved your tape. Stan told people

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Speaker 1: about it. He was very excited. It's the old cliche

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Speaker 1: Keith about being in the right place at the right time.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you can make it over,

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Speaker 1: you are cordially invited to the annual Norham Family Fourth

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Speaker 1: of July Bash. We're in Westchester two. I never once

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Speaker 1: spoke to Roger Norham that he did not invite me

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Speaker 1: to a Norum bash. He had them for all major holidays,

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Speaker 1: and I believe for lesser events like the Westminster Dog

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Speaker 1: Show and Moroccan Independence Day. He was a lovely man,

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Speaker 1: and while he was a fine newsman, he was far

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Speaker 1: better at kindness and favor. He's like the one he

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Speaker 1: was doing me on that July afternoon so long ago.

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00:45:50,835 --> 00:45:53,875
Speaker 1: Needless to say, I was silent and pretty much breathless

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Speaker 1: for the rest of July second, nineteen seventy nine. As

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Speaker 1: hard as that might be for you to believe, I

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00:46:00,195 --> 00:46:02,995
Speaker 1: explained to my folks what might be going on, how

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Speaker 1: just as I was going to make myself start worrying

681
00:46:05,715 --> 00:46:10,595
Speaker 1: about actually getting a job, maybe in Atlanta, I might

682
00:46:10,995 --> 00:46:15,035
Speaker 1: have just gotten a job a forty minute train ride away.

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Speaker 1: Based on what Stan Sabeg had said about getting me

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Speaker 1: vacation relief work. I suspected he would offer me something

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Speaker 1: on a temporary basis to see if I could actually

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00:46:24,275 --> 00:46:27,235
Speaker 1: do it. But still, if even that actually happened, this

687
00:46:27,475 --> 00:46:31,035
Speaker 1: was my chance to break into professional radio. At probably

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00:46:31,075 --> 00:46:35,275
Speaker 1: the peak of professional radio's post war importance and competitiveness

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00:46:35,515 --> 00:46:39,075
Speaker 1: and expansion, and to break in in New York City

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00:46:39,275 --> 00:46:43,835
Speaker 1: at a network. My rivals for every job I would

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00:46:43,875 --> 00:46:46,595
Speaker 1: seek for the next twenty years, or thirty years or

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Speaker 1: fifty years, would be happy to be breaking in in Keyakok, Iowa.

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Speaker 1: No offense, Kyokook, and I would be on the network,

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Speaker 1: they would hear as they arrived to do the morning

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00:46:56,875 --> 00:47:02,475
Speaker 1: shift at four thirty am in Kyokook. I do not

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Speaker 1: remember sleeping that night, certainly well, still, I am confident

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Speaker 1: that I remember this correctly. On Tuesday, July third, nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy nine, I was back out on the Olderman family

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Speaker 1: tanning lawn twenty feet from the driveway just afternoon when

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Speaker 1: the front door opened and Mom said it again, Keith phone,

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Speaker 1: someone named Stan, Keith Stan Sabek. He laughed, Stan laughed

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00:47:28,115 --> 00:47:31,355
Speaker 1: a lot. Stan and I had a loud fight fourteen

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00:47:31,395 --> 00:47:35,475
Speaker 1: months later that got me fired and then unfired hours later.

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Speaker 1: Stan laughed in the middle of all that twice tired

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00:47:38,915 --> 00:47:42,075
Speaker 1: of lying around the pool, yet I lied and said, yes,

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00:47:42,115 --> 00:47:45,915
Speaker 1: of course, there was no pool, just my lawn. I

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00:47:45,955 --> 00:47:48,595
Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard. He said it in such

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00:47:48,635 --> 00:47:50,995
Speaker 1: a way that confirmed that he was confident. I had heard,

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00:47:51,395 --> 00:47:54,435
Speaker 1: and noram or Rosen or somebody had called to tell me.

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Speaker 1: But my sports director quick to go to NBC. I

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00:47:58,475 --> 00:48:02,395
Speaker 1: need a full time sportscaster to replace him. You interested

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00:48:03,635 --> 00:48:06,435
Speaker 1: prepared as I was for the offer of part time work.

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Speaker 1: I was stunned. On top of stunned. Full time stand

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Speaker 1: Did you say full time? Stan laughed, yes, sixteen thousand,

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Speaker 1: No negotiations. Mostly nights, some mornings, some ball games. You

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00:48:20,195 --> 00:48:22,675
Speaker 1: get to cover split days off. You're not going to

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Speaker 1: have a weekend for a couple of years. Probably. Can

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Speaker 1: you come in Thursday to fill out the job application

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Speaker 1: for the job I just hired you for? He laughed again.

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Speaker 1: Ever since, I have associated the fourth of July with

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Speaker 1: the start of my career, but especially those years when

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00:48:39,355 --> 00:48:41,315
Speaker 1: the week with the fourth in it is in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the week, just like that, and makes it

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Speaker 1: more difficult for employers to hire anybody except the cheap

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00:48:49,755 --> 00:48:54,755
Speaker 1: and the unemployed. Turns out that Wednesday, July fourth calendar

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00:48:54,875 --> 00:48:57,155
Speaker 1: is not a frequent thing. Happened in nineteen seventy nine,

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00:48:57,155 --> 00:48:59,915
Speaker 1: Happened again in nineteen ninety, two thousand and one, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven, twenty eighteen, not scheduled to happen again

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Speaker 1: until twenty twenty nine, barring major breaking news developments. A

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Speaker 1: week to the day that stan sebek had called, I

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Speaker 1: was on the air at UPI. I wasn't supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: I was just supposed to be watching the morning shift

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Speaker 1: with Sam Rosen. And then finally he said, so, do

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Speaker 1: you think you got the hang of it? And I said,

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Speaker 1: m I guess so. He said, good, because you're on

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Speaker 1: at nine forty five. I was so scared. I had

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Speaker 1: an out of body experience. Thirty days after stan Sebic

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Speaker 1: called on July third, I was on my own on

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Speaker 1: the night shift, maybe the seventh time, when the Yankee

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Speaker 1: catcher Thurman Munson was killed when he crashed his private plane,

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Speaker 1: and I had to call his teammates for interviews and

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Speaker 1: still do the sports cast every hour. By October, they

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Speaker 1: had put me on a plane to go cover the

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Speaker 1: National League playoffs. Six months after he called, Stan and

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Speaker 1: Sam Rosen and I were covering the nineteen eighty Winter

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Speaker 1: Olympics for UPI Radio, and our stuff was playing on

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Speaker 1: radio stations around the world. But all these years later,

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Speaker 1: none of that compared to the sensation of that phone

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Speaker 1: call and the realization that my career had really started.

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Speaker 1: At forty eight hours later, I was walking into UPI's

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Speaker 1: offices as a pro plus, I got the first shock

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Speaker 1: of my career. Good news, Stan said and laughed. That's

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00:50:22,635 --> 00:50:26,155
Speaker 1: stringing work you did for UPI. All those Cornell football

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00:50:26,275 --> 00:50:30,435
Speaker 1: games you covered for fifteen dollars a game. The union says,

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00:50:30,475 --> 00:50:33,475
Speaker 1: guess what they count towards your professional experience, So you

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Speaker 1: won't be starting at just sixteen thousand. You get credited

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Speaker 1: with experience for all that stringing. You got exactly six

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Speaker 1: days worth of credit. Congratulations, you'll be starting at sixteen thousand,

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Speaker 1: twenty five dollars a year, and Stan sabc laughed, I've

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Speaker 1: done all the damage I can do here. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening. Countdown musical directors Brian Ray and John Phillips

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Speaker 1: Chanel arranged, produced, and performed most of our music. Mister

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Speaker 1: Ray was on the guitars, bass and drums. Mister Shanelle

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Speaker 1: handled orchestration and keyboards, and it was produced by Tko Brothers.

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Speaker 1: Another music, including some of the Beethoven compositions, arranged and

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Speaker 1: performed by the group No Horns Allowed. The sports music

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Speaker 1: is the Olderman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch

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Speaker 1: Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN Inc. Our satirical and pithy

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Speaker 1: musical comments are by Nancy Fauss, the best baseball stadium

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Speaker 1: organist ever, and once again my accompanist. Our announcer was

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Speaker 1: my friend Larry David. Everything else was pretty much my fault.

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Speaker 1: So that's countdown for this the one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: seventh day until the twenty twenty four presidential election, the

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy fifth day since convicted felon Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically elected government of

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Speaker 1: the United States. You the July eleventh sentencing hearing. Use

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Speaker 1: the mental health system. You've got it now, mister President

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Speaker 1: hughes presidential immunity to stop Trump from doing it again

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Speaker 1: while we still.

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Speaker 3: Came.

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Speaker 1: The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Bulletins is the news

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Speaker 1: warrants until then, I'm Keith old Rimmond. Good morning, good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: good night, and good luck.

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Speaker 3: Keep rolling, rolling, Rolling, the Supreme Courtio swollen, keep them

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Speaker 3: fascist rolling.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, Neil and Sam and Thomas are kissing Trump.

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Speaker 2: He's badass. They gave the constitution big herds from all

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Speaker 2: these thugs. Judicial declar an axe official. They're over when

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Speaker 2: you are restaurant Robert theme from Rothyde Countdown with Keith

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