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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio, and.

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Speaker 2: We are back with Maria Wheatley, the author of the

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Speaker 2: Secret History of Stonehenge. And just before the break, Maria,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about how or you were explaining how

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Speaker 2: you believe the elongated skull people were able to move

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Speaker 2: these massive, massive stones in the construction of Phase one

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Speaker 2: of Stonehenge or Phase two of Stonehenge, and you were

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Speaker 2: talking about using sound waves basically, and then we went

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Speaker 2: into the break. So did you want to finish up

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Speaker 2: that thought.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, because it's a known fact that the Niolismics,

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Speaker 3: the long skulled people moved the heaviest stones. Later in

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Speaker 3: the Bronze Age they were never that heavy, so this

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Speaker 3: was the era of moving the heaviest stones. And I

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Speaker 3: was saying earlier just before the break that earth currents

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Speaker 3: that are always associated with ancient sites, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of people think they were placed there, the monuments were

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Speaker 3: in association with them, and some standing stones were sighted

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Speaker 3: upon them. But I also think they had a practical

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Speaker 3: role because we've measured their frequency, which was twenty five

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Speaker 3: perts that I mentioned, And if the ancients could manipulate

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Speaker 3: a killer hurt frequency. Bear in mind their ears with

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Speaker 3: that bone may have made this audible for them. We

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Speaker 3: have a different perception. And if they could manipulate that,

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Speaker 3: soone to twenty five killer hurts, that's the frequency of levitation.

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Speaker 3: So they could have been making the stone lighter to

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Speaker 3: transport it from one place to another. Because Stonehenge doesn't

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Speaker 3: have any stone within miles. It has a lot of timber,

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Speaker 3: had a lot of wood, they didn't have stone. That's

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Speaker 3: why they were imported from Whales the bluestones one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty miles away and from Westwoods near Marlborough which

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Speaker 3: is about fifteen seveneventeen miles away to that huge stars

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Speaker 3: in gray stones that we see as grade today. So

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Speaker 3: that's the distance is involved. I mean one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty miles for over eighty bluestones from Whales alone.

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned that Stonehenge's second phase diverged significantly from

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Speaker 2: its original design, including alterations to stone settings and so forth.

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Speaker 2: What do you believe motivated these changes or what precipitated

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Speaker 2: these changes.

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Speaker 3: Well, they dismantled the fifty six bluestones of the very

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Speaker 3: large stone circle and imported a lot of sars and

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Speaker 3: stone that we see as gray today when we look

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Speaker 3: at images of Stonehenge we see it as gray. But

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Speaker 3: recently it's been discovered by University College London that the

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Speaker 3: stones used for those huge stones at Stonehenge that weren't

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Speaker 3: used they never had seen the lightest day because they

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Speaker 3: would dug out from underground when Satan is thus the

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Speaker 3: name of the stone of the large stones. When Satan

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Speaker 3: is exposed to the elements, it creates a very hard

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Speaker 3: crust on top of the stone. Stone that's under the

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Speaker 3: ground that hasn't seen daylight is much more easier to

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Speaker 3: make into a lozenger shape, which is what they did

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Speaker 3: to all of the stones. It's called dress in archaeological terms.

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Speaker 3: They dressed the stones, they made them shape, but their

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Speaker 3: color is slightly different. It has a pinkish silver hue originally,

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Speaker 3: So we now know that Stonehengs was quite a colorful

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Speaker 3: place and one of the Trila bonds that's inside the

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Speaker 3: Stonehenge Phase two because it consisted of a stone circle

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Speaker 3: of very large sartened stones with lintols on the top.

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Speaker 3: There was thirty of them, inside of which there were

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Speaker 3: two cons enter bluestone circles, and then there was a

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Speaker 3: horseshoe shape in the middle. Now English Heritage on their

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Speaker 3: website say that there was only one bluestone circle at

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Speaker 3: Stonehenge Phase two. I'm saying there's two because Richard Actinson,

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Speaker 3: who did the archaeological dig, said he dug out two

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Speaker 3: concentric circles. I got in touch with Professor Mike Parker Pearson,

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Speaker 3: he's a leader archaeologist of Stonehenge Faint, and asked him

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Speaker 3: what was his model like, did he agree with me

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Speaker 3: or did he agree with English Heritage? And he said,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. There was two concentric stone circles

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Speaker 3: there inside which English Heritage say there was five massive

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Speaker 3: trila bonds and a trilathon is two stones with a

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Speaker 3: worldwide on this next of what Stonehenge looks like. But

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Speaker 3: I questioned them because I was told by again a

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Speaker 3: that strange stone second that they discovered They buried it

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Speaker 3: he was questioning whether there were six, whether there were seventh.

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Speaker 3: So again what English Heritage tells us is just their

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Speaker 3: the first to dig at Stonehenge, the first people ever,

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Speaker 3: and they wanted us to survey it. And Indigo Jones

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Speaker 3: buildings still stand in London today. And when they dug

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Speaker 3: at the center of Stonehenge, they said there was two altarstones.

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Speaker 3: Again English Heritage spoonfeederus that there was only one altarstone

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Speaker 3: at Stonehenge. Indigo Jones and King James, they said where

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Speaker 3: they took it? They said they carted it away in

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Speaker 3: a cart. They carted a where he's to Saint James's

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Speaker 3: stones from Stonehenge. And here's the thing. People would say, well,

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Speaker 3: what's Saint James's Palace in London Before Buckingham Palace was

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Speaker 3: constructed and built the Royal residents, was Saint James's Palace

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Speaker 3: in London and that's where one of the stones of

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Speaker 3: Stonehenge went. So now let's look at a new model

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Speaker 3: of Stonehenge. You've got the thirty lintels on the outside,

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Speaker 3: two concentric circles of bluestones on the inside, stix tile

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Speaker 3: five like English Heritage say, with two old stones and

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Speaker 3: not one altarstone the English Heritage say. And I found

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Speaker 3: physical evidence for the second oldstone in a report that

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Speaker 3: said there was two colors of the alter stone. One

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Speaker 3: see Stonehenge with a very colorful temple, with those pinkish silver,

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Speaker 3: dark colored. One of the trial farms, according to the

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Speaker 3: archeologist Mike Pits, was even a deeper shade of pink,

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Speaker 3: almost like a purpley color. Today we see it as

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Speaker 3: weathered and gray and dull. For what the jeweled Stonehenge

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Speaker 3: were green sandstones flexed with garnet and mica. They would

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Speaker 3: have looked absolutely stunning. And on the outside of Stonehenge

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Speaker 3: were four other stones called the station stones as well.

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Speaker 3: So Stonehenge was bright, it was colorful. And I take

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Speaker 3: that concept one step further once again. Mike Parker Pierson

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Speaker 3: of University College London excavated a Henge monument about thirty

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Speaker 3: It was like a carbon copy of it. But he

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Speaker 3: all patterns of earth energy. So I think Stonehenge had

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Speaker 3: And I think they were painting these chevron patterns to

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Speaker 3: make it look very bright and colorful, maybe for special

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Speaker 3: and I think that was quite common to Henge Banks

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Speaker 3: backed in about five and a half thousand years ago.

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Speaker 2: The altar that was spirited away to Saint James Pallace.

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Speaker 2: Have we lost the trail? Do we know what happened

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Speaker 3: That's really interesting because yes it did end up at

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Speaker 3: believed from the twelfth century by Jeffrey of Mommouth who

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Speaker 3: wrote the History of the Kings of Britain. He included,

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Speaker 3: He mentioned all of the kings of Britain and he

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Speaker 3: said at the time no stone at Stonehenge does not

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Speaker 3: have healing power. He was saying it was a healing

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Speaker 3: And in the nineteen thirty an archeologist called William Cullington.

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Speaker 3: saying where is it? Is it still at Saint James's Palace?

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Speaker 3: What's it being used for by the royal family? James

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Speaker 3: started the witch Hunt trials. For one, he had a

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Speaker 3: So it has actually gone cold. Nobody knows where it

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Speaker 3: is now because nobody does ask the question of the royal.

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Speaker 2: Do you suspect it's inside Buckingham Palace.

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Speaker 3: I think it has always remained in the royal circles

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Speaker 3: And incidentally James the First he wrote in English from

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Speaker 3: exploring different aspects of magic and witchcraft. So I think

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Speaker 3: he was combined in this stone with magic occult practices

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Speaker 3: that around James the first there was all of these

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Speaker 3: But the stone that George Billiaps wanted wasn't the second altarstone.

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Speaker 3: It was the giant greater Trilothon. He approached the landowner

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Speaker 3: and said, on rayle decree, we want to buy that.

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Speaker 3: Thankfully the landowner said no, it's not the sale. The

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Speaker 3: You just be hung drawn in quarter, didn't question the king.

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Speaker 3: So the king did what the king wanted.

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Speaker 2: We just have about a minute before we break here

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Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. But if the Altarstone,

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Speaker 2: the second Alterstone, is in the possession of the royal family,

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Speaker 2: what do you think they're doing with it.

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Speaker 3: I think the royals are quite ritualistic. Rich people are.

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Speaker 3: They're ritualistic about things. And I think it's always been renowned,

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Speaker 3: as we've talked later, as being a healing center and

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Speaker 3: a center of manifestation. I think that stone was encoded

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Speaker 3: thousands and thousands of years ago, and if you know

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Speaker 3: how to decode what's inside of a stone, as doctor

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Speaker 3: Don Robbins postulated, and maybe they're using it for manifestation,

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Speaker 3: maybe they're using it for healing. We don't know. But

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Speaker 3: what we do know is that's where that stone ended up.

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