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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hunt. That's Giants, Giants,

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Speaker 1: give me some Jobs, part of the Giants Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: Let's roll. All right, We're back for another edition of

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Speaker 2: the Giants Little Podcast. John Schmulk shoon ahwer with you.

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Speaker 2: It's all brought to you by Citizens, the official bank

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Speaker 2: of the New York Giants and Sean. A really tight

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Speaker 2: game for the Giants this week, only the second game

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Speaker 2: where it was really tight going down to the wire,

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Speaker 2: and unlike some of the games this year, we've gone

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Speaker 2: on the show and he said, well, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: pretty clear how the Giants got outplayed and they lost

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Speaker 2: this game. This was a game where it came down

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Speaker 2: to it's just a few very critical plays over the

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Speaker 2: course of the game, and the Giants just didn't make

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Speaker 2: the plays when they had to and the Bills did.

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Speaker 2: And that's, to me is what swung this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, fourteen to nine, that's a score of

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Speaker 1: gami like game, like you don't expect those kind of

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Speaker 1: like kind of a low scoring game, especially with the

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Speaker 1: Bills and their ability to put up points. But I

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Speaker 1: thought the defense, Yeah, you can't ask for much more

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Speaker 1: from the defense to hold into four points and what

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Speaker 1: they were able to do the first half, it's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Like Stefan Diggs had one hundred yards, but it was

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Speaker 1: like the quiet hundred yards that I think I've ever

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Speaker 1: seen him have because it wasn't any game changing big plays.

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Speaker 3: Only one play of more than twenty yards to the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and look that guy is. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: one of the best of the best right now in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So I thought that there was some really

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Speaker 1: good stuff to take away. Defensively, I do think there

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Speaker 1: was only one quarterback hit, only one true quarterback pressure statistically,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like there was more pressure on Josh

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Speaker 3: He was on the move the whole game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and his ability to get out of the pocket,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's a pressure. But because he was

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Speaker 1: ball before he actually got hit, it doesn't count as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback hurry or hit.

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Speaker 3: That's why he's Josh Allen, by the way.

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Speaker 1: And he's he's a different breed for sure. So I

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Speaker 1: thought the defense, you know, really stepped up, and you know,

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Speaker 1: two turnovers again, that's huge. Bobby Ocake. I think had

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Speaker 3: He was all over the field.

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Speaker 1: He was laying the wood too, like it wasn't just

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Speaker 2: And he was involved in the passing game. He was

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Speaker 2: involved in both takeaways. I thought he was I thought,

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Speaker 2: I agree best game might have been the best individual

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Speaker 2: game we've seen a Giants defensive player play this entire year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Bobby was was awesome and he got

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Speaker 1: he got robbed with the passing for the rough and

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Speaker 3: Do you think they thought he hit him in the head.

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Speaker 1: I think the angle that the referee had and it

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Speaker 1: where I think he wasn't late. You know, the referees

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Speaker 1: should be able to get together. And there is this

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Speaker 1: not contacted the head, pick up the flag Bobby. He

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Speaker 1: a completely legitimate quarterback hit and that should not happen.

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Speaker 1: It's too gray of a call. And that was on

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Bob and I always think those plays should

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Speaker 3: It's just still bang bang. It's hard for the rest

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Speaker 1: It's too quick.

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Speaker 1: It's too quick for them to see with the naked eye.

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Speaker 1: But listen, Ultimately, what it comes down to is you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna win football games in the NFL if you

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Speaker 1: kick it every time. That being said, the end of

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Speaker 1: the first half debacle cost the Giants this game. And

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Speaker 1: it's as much as you could say, hey, one play

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Speaker 1: doesn't determine the outcome, no, thousand percent. If the Giants

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game, it's a totally different

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Speaker 1: end of game scenario. You don't have to go for

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Speaker 1: it's really there's a couple of issues that I think

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Speaker 1: You have to call two plays in the huddle there,

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Speaker 1: one time out at that moment. It was third and one.

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Speaker 1: immediately go up and spike it. You save the timeout

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Speaker 3: Get first and save the spike it first because you

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Speaker 1: It's first and ten. You probably don't have enough time

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Speaker 1: Now it's second down. Now we can throw the ball.

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Speaker 1: save for the field goal. So that was Era number one,

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Speaker 1: Air number two. Fourteen seconds is not enough time to

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Speaker 2: Which is why they I able to call the pass

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Speaker 1: Here, right, And I think Tyrod Taylor went alert alert,

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Speaker 1: You don't add the alert, you don't give him the

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Speaker 1: In the past, hey, if it's sixty two. Read why

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Speaker 1: Right, So that that's where I think he you know,

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Speaker 1: he was hot and rightfully so, because Tyrod Taylor. You

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Speaker 3: There's no way you're getting back.

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Speaker 1: Can't You can't check the run, right that if you

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Speaker 1: another pass play. So that was a critical error and

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Speaker 1: it ended up haunting the Giants at the end of

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's tough to make the game come

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Speaker 1: but you have to play the play as if you're

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Speaker 3: Last. You mentioned some of the issues in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: which which really are there? You know, two big things

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Speaker 2: in this game red zone against the Bills. How do

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Speaker 1: Whether it's a chip with a running back, whether it's

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Speaker 1: you see big plays like that happen in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing for the Giants is

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Speaker 1: really like first down production in the red zone is crucial.

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Speaker 4: So you start a turf Fizz business grows, your savings grow,

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Speaker 2: So if you look at it, you know, when they

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Speaker 2: you can move the pocket more. It helps an offensive

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Speaker 1: If the Giants won this game, Justin pewould have gotten

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Speaker 3: That was an unbelievable throw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he made some really good athletic throws on the move.

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Speaker 1: And he also got out of trouble quite a few times,

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Speaker 1: so I thought he was very decisive from that standpoint.

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Speaker 1: good job.

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Speaker 2: show him for this offense. Want to get to no

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Speaker 2: easier because you got the Washington Commander this year with

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Speaker 2: four first round picks on the line, and I have

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Speaker 2: watched a little bit. Chase Young's playing the best he's

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Speaker 2: playing his whole career. That dude is a menace coming

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Speaker 2: off the right side there. So good luck to w

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Speaker 2: over at the Giants haven't left tackle this week, but

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Speaker 2: Deron Payne Montes sweat Jonathan Allen and then an offense.

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Speaker 2: Say what you want about Sam Hallen. That dude's fun

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Speaker 2: to watch. He stands in there. He'll take sacks, but

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Speaker 2: he will make throws down the field. Man, he can

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Speaker 2: run a little bit. This is gonna be a challenge.

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Speaker 2: Washington's three and three. They got weapons on both sides.

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Speaker 2: They're a fun team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look they've kind of been on both sides

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Speaker 1: That can be good or bad. I think his throws

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Speaker 1: the damage that he's doing from the pocket. I think

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Speaker 1: everybody kind of looked at like he's athletic, he can

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Speaker 1: Johan Dotson is not a deep threat guy. He's an

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Speaker 1: intermediate route runner, more traditional. But Terry McLaurin is a

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Speaker 1: handful and he's a stud. So this offense definitely presents

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Speaker 1: its challenges. And you know Nick Gates, obviously this will

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Speaker 1: be the Nick Gates game, and I think for him

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Speaker 1: to play against the former team, don't standing around a pile,

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Speaker 1: Nick Gates. Nick Gates, he loves peeling guys off the pile. Defensively.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned it, boy, they get after you. And Monte

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Speaker 1: Sweet has the production. He has the more sacks at

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Speaker 1: Jake Young, but Chase Young is absolutely taken over games.

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Speaker 1: So this will be a really big challenge for this

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Speaker 1: Giants whole on.

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Speaker 3: It will be a lot of fun to watch and

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Speaker 3: good stuff. My friend always appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks John, I'm John H.

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Speaker 3: Milcom.

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Speaker 2: The Giants Little Podcast presented by Citizens, the Official Bank

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next week for another episode.