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Speaker 1: Am I they hole for wanting to divorce my husband

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Speaker 2: What about more than marrier? Hey, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: This comes from Cassie one eight seven four to four,

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Speaker 1: who says, Hi, I've been married to my hobby for

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Speaker 1: four years and we've been together for twelve years. After

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Speaker 1: we are now planning to get kids.

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Speaker 2: Woo, nothing can go wrong from here. Get those kids

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Speaker 2: good to go in or something.

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Speaker 1: This is a few months ago. My husband fell sick

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Speaker 1: to pick up an online game and started to have

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Speaker 1: weekly sessions with a.

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Speaker 2: Group of players. Players play, players do play. Among them

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Speaker 2: is a girl WHOA? A girl whoa? What is this?

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Speaker 1: Thirty I think? And long story shorts. He fell in.

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Speaker 2: Love with her. Damn she won that game, dude, She

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Speaker 2: won the game, the ultimate game, the only one that

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Speaker 2: really has game. She has games? She won it? Oh man, dude,

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Speaker 2: so many, so many puns. What's happening?

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Speaker 1: He broke down a month ago and admitted it. He

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Speaker 1: told me it built up so gradually he didn't understand

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Speaker 1: how he felt until it was too late.

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Speaker 2: What's too late? Like they I don't know, got I

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Speaker 2: have to stream and had their players meshed with each other.

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Speaker 3: They put their Minecraft beds next to each other.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, dude, that the minecraft that hanged each other.

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Speaker 2: Did they sleep next to each other in those Minecraft

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Speaker 3: Were they on overnight discord calls?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I could get We could get pretty spicy. I

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Speaker 2: want to know how far you went? Me too. I

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Speaker 2: think we'll see.

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Speaker 1: They started texting privately after meeting and eventually had one

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Speaker 1: on one calls together.

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Speaker 2: Then at some point she.

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Speaker 1: Told him that she was in love with him, and

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Speaker 2: They got a brain connect, you know. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: this is so sad. Don't let your wife stop you

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Speaker 2: from hide and find your.

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Speaker 1: Wife, he said. He told her it was impossible, but

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Speaker 1: loved her too. They tried to be just friends, but

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Speaker 1: they couldn't resist and continued to show affection for each other.

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Speaker 1: He showed me the text, but also ventured into spicy texting.

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Speaker 2: Yikes. She asked if she could meet him face to face,

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Speaker 2: but he refused. So they haven't even met face to face. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they haven't met face to face, but I would love

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Speaker 2: if this was a cat face situation. I would love it.

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Speaker 2: It would be sweet revenge.

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Speaker 1: Well, so reading it back, and they started texting probably

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Speaker 1: after meeting, and eventually had one on one calls together. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not super clear if it's been like video calls

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was just like after meeting in

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Speaker 2: the gaming world. Yeah, like after they yeah, after they

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Speaker 2: kids are playing these days, kids roadblocks, roadblocks? True? Is

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Speaker 2: wouldn't know about it. He told me all of this,

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Speaker 1: Loved both of us, Oh that Yeah, that seems like

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Speaker 2: It was he's the honest, that is true. That is true.

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Speaker 1: And while he loved both of us, it was me

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Speaker 1: he would choose no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good because my next question was, they're both

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Speaker 2: chooses her Jesus wife, which is good, Which is good.

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Speaker 1: I was still very upset and slept at a friend's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was after sex, like spicy texts like I

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Speaker 1: So if it was too late and this is still

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Speaker 1: Is this first degree cheating? Is is it capital cheating?

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Speaker 2: I think it's first degree first cheating or cheating in

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Speaker 2: the second degree, right, because first degree murder is the

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Speaker 2: worst murder. I think capital is the worst. But like

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Speaker 2: This is manslaughter, yeah yeah, yeah, this man cheating, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Cheating in the third degree. I'm down. I'm with that.

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Speaker 1: We got into long conversation about how we were feeling

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Speaker 1: bye literally cheating it's texts. He agreed, and then yesterday

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Speaker 2: My die, I choose you every single time, but if

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Speaker 2: I choose both of you, but I would choose you.

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Speaker 2: But if you let me, I choose both to his company,

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Speaker 2: but three, that's a crowd that I want to be

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Speaker 2: He said he still wanted to live with me and

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Speaker 3: Like, can you blame the guy? Hear me out?

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Speaker 2: Hear me? I'm I'm so excited. You can totally blame

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Speaker 3: Tell me you haven't fell in love with these guys.

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Speaker 3: Tell me that you guys hear them all the time

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Have you told your significant others about us? Our

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Speaker 2: little thrupple we got going? Yeah, dude, it's getting a

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Speaker 2: let's keep it there. Five. We're keeping it at five. Five.

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Speaker 2: Have you told him slash her about it? I think

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Speaker 2: it's about that time. It's about that time. Boy, you've

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Speaker 2: been listening for a year more. Yeah, I've been whispering

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Speaker 2: sweet nothings every single night. I've just been talking regularly.

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Speaker 2: I've been I've been whispering, whispering sweet nothings. I've been

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Speaker 2: whispering for all the things John can't say that's right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: so tell him it's about time.

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Speaker 1: He says he wants to do it right and let

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Speaker 3: Like his boundaries are like, you can't do anything with them.

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Speaker 3: You can maybe go on a date, but I can

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Speaker 1: It's the classic. We've seen this one hundred times. I'm

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Speaker 1: We have several friends who are Polly. I know more

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Speaker 1: it just never crossed my mind before. I am trying

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Speaker 1: my writing is probably messy, but it's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: to focus. I guess it's too early to decide, and

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Speaker 1: we have a lot more to discuss beforehand. But still,

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Speaker 1: could you guys give me more opinions on this? Thanks

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Speaker 1: a lot, We have relevant comments. We have an update,

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Speaker 1: but real quick, pitstop everyone in the comments, Sam, what

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Speaker 1: op trying to legitimize a lie that happened within the relationship.

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Speaker 1: And the lie was like basically, I'm going to commit

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Speaker 2: It's so stupid. I hate that exactly. I think before

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Speaker 2: you open up your relationship, at the very least established

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Speaker 2: re established trust with your partner. Yes, and then maybe

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Speaker 2: you talk about that. But man's trying to like build

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Speaker 1: Or is he like, let's just take the trust in

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's just trying to go all in on this

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Speaker 1: M Yeah, that's a good like like just keep saying

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Speaker 2: She breaks up with you. Yeah, well, we have some

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Speaker 2: relevant comments, ladies, gentlemen. A crazy thing to ask, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is absolutely I don't think we've seen it asked

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Speaker 2: I was to say, what op, he should do right

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Speaker 2: now at least take a break. At least take a break.

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Speaker 2: I like that. I like that a lot.

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Speaker 1: So the first comment comment to one, I'd be divorcing

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Speaker 1: so fast shortsweet and simple.

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Speaker 2: Dog of the Bone says, so.

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Speaker 1: He cheated and now he wants to keep cheating by

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Speaker 1: calling it polly loll. Come on, do not have kids

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Speaker 1: with this man, for the love of God, and if

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Speaker 1: you have any self respect, you'll be serving him divorce

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Speaker 1: papers as soon as possible. Sorry, your husband is a

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Speaker 1: cheating but dang, yeah, really laying into ok there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Swampkat says you got married under the assumption you would

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he is trying to fundamentally change the nature

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Speaker 1: Personally, I would not stay with someone who desired an

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Speaker 1: Possibly his timing is terrible. But but at this time,

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Speaker 1: So first of all, sorry I didn't reply to all

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Speaker 2: I still got checked for sti's and I'm clean. Yay.

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Speaker 2: That's good, huge, so smart.

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Speaker 1: As for our polyamory friends, they apparently were the ones

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's just good advice. I don't think

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Speaker 3: It's like anyone that's like I want to grow my

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's better. I think it's like I

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Speaker 2: it's like. It's everyone who owns bitcoin telling everyone else

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Speaker 2: normalize polly couples. So they're incentivized.

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Speaker 3: Because they can have more people in their relationships.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they could add to their their their their polyp

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just trying to have like a giant circle

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Speaker 1: It's just people are just freaking knacking on each other

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Speaker 2: Well very inclusive, super inclusive. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well so, uh, Opie says, I stopped talking to them

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Speaker 1: for now. The poly friends all deal with the bigger problem.

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Speaker 2: First.

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Speaker 1: I told him what you guys said, that turning into

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Speaker 1: Agreed that polyamory should be built on mutual trust in communication, which.

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Speaker 2: He already broke. Agreed, we're so good at this. We're

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Speaker 2: so good. We literally said all these things. That's what

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Speaker 2: better than a therapist. We're smarts, smart boys. Dude, what

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Speaker 2: a tag line that I didn't feel respected. It destroyed him,

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Speaker 2: and he said he already knew deep down, but didn't

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Speaker 2: want to admit it, neither to me nor to himself.

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Speaker 2: We both screamed and cried a lot. Screamed yes, so yes,

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Speaker 3: Dude plays video games, of course, He's yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: He's rage quitting his relationship, his marriage. He finally admitted

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Speaker 2: No shit, Oh bo really plot twist. Never saw that

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Speaker 2: one coming. Wow, he is very sorry.

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Speaker 1: He cut off contact with the other girl, let me

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Speaker 3: Question real quick, yes, sir, divorce or therapy?

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Speaker 2: How long has it been? Let's see how long have

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Speaker 2: they been married? They're thirty three and thirty four, so

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Speaker 3: So they've been together since they were twenty eight? Twenty oh, oh.

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Speaker 2: We've been together for twelve years. I think, I think,

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Speaker 2: I think therapy could be good.

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Speaker 1: I I'm just like picking up his vibe and I

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Speaker 2: Hey man made a big booboo. Twelve years, twelve years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, twelve years is a long time, so I

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Speaker 1: I think I just hate this guy. I think I

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Speaker 2: I mean, according to the Golden rules, they are golden

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Speaker 3: He's only used up one, But did he he didn't

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Speaker 2: Third it was cheating in the third degree. I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, third degree cheating, which is still still got cheating

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Speaker 2: Emotional emotional, it's further than emotional. Spicy text. If you send,

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Speaker 2: if you send a booty pick, I think that that counts.

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Speaker 2: They sent that, yes, and at least were yeah, they

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Speaker 2: I think twelve years and one booty pick, I think

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Speaker 1: No, I I think in like almost any scenario, going

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Speaker 2: I think if you go into I think you and

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you don't divorce, but I think yeah,

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Speaker 2: which it seems like has already taken place, then divorce. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I think, I'm I'm guck, I'm I'm iceuing

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Speaker 2: Think they're gonna stay together. I think you're gonna stay together.

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Speaker 2: I think everyone's gonna hate my take too, Everyone's gonna

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Speaker 2: hate it, but I stick by it. Yeah, dude, Now

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Speaker 2: now I'm excited. We got, we got, we got two sides.

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna stay together. Come on, well, come on,

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Speaker 2: it's a predictive tool. Twelve years one booty pick, dude,

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Speaker 2: twelve years of marriage can't overcome one booty pick. This

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Speaker 2: guy you got, he's an idiot. He's an idiot. He's

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Speaker 2: so dumb, and I hate I think there. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they're did of course. Bull See, Now I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: This is added, this is added more exciting to the story,

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Speaker 1: so Op says, And now I want to make it

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Speaker 2: What did I tell you? Sam's going in rules predictive

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Speaker 2: tools for relationships. But oh fuck, don't let him cook?

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Speaker 2: But am I? Or is it just sunk cost fallacy

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Speaker 2: because they've been together for twelve years, the kryptonite of

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Speaker 2: the golden rules? I don't know. I don't know, man

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Speaker 2: OPI in one sentence, just like throw us both, we

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Speaker 2: were like Drake and Kendrick over here, just like tradingsponssible.

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna win? We don't know. Every time it goes like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm still I think they're gonna I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: Our first session is in two months, the earliest we

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Speaker 2: Dang, that's what we're talking about. Get a get a

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Speaker 2: b rate one before you get a rate. You know

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Speaker 2: this is you need emergency. Yeah, yeah, we need the

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Speaker 2: big red button therapy. Yeah now they are clear, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: February therapy exactly.

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Speaker 1: And every day I changed my mind. Dude, me and

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Speaker 1: Sam are gonna go through it today. Literally yesterday I

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Speaker 1: giving a try. Because we've known each other for so

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Speaker 1: long twelve years. We understand each other on a very

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Speaker 1: deep level, super well, share lots of interests of interest

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Speaker 2: The build him. He was there for.

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Speaker 1: Me during hard parts of my life, and he took

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Speaker 1: don't want to lose everything. It sounds very hard and scary.

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Speaker 1: Am I too old for this?

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Speaker 2: You're never too old? And if what you have is shit,

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Speaker 1: of denial, isn't it. It doesn't matter if those years

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I think he is genuinely remorseful, But

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Speaker 1: Him being present now doesn't erase what was done. Do

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Speaker 2: Some kind of codependency. I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I can picture both paths clearly, and it's tearing me

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Speaker 2: I am lost cool.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying I am lost, maybe even more than I

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Speaker 1: for me alone to help with this whole thing. Smart,

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Speaker 1: very smart, very smart. I am sorry at this point,

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Speaker 1: I am rambling. I know I am the only one

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Speaker 1: It's ultimately my choice, and my choice only. The emotional

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Speaker 1: going to take a while. I'm sorry. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you again for your support, and I'm sending you

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Speaker 1: but quick pitstop comments say I'm still feeling like divorce

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Speaker 2: Rather, so I don't think that. I do not think

436
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: she's going to be the one to cut things off

437
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: twelve twelve years. I don't think so.

438
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: Right, So she, which to be fair, still stands on

439
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: your original statement technically of like she will not divorce.

440
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, there's so much but

441
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: maybe he will step away. I could maybe maybe I

442
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: want to say that because it does sound like he's

443
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: really trying. But yeah, he's like, I'm in love with

444
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: this person that I haven't even seen, the like there

445
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: must be a huge draw. Yeah, that he's like suppressing.

446
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 2: And I think he's also, as we said, an idiot.

447
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: What if she showed up to the house of the

448
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: person and asked for a threable of their house and just, oh,

449
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: you mean that person, Yeah, the gamer girl. If a

450
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: gamer girl shows up at the house and then he

451
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: sees her in person and she's like, I had to

452
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: fight for you, I had to come back, and then

453
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: it is he hasn't even seen her in person. He's

454
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: like that obsessed, Like, go he goes to a gamer convention,

455
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: who arts ways and then in front of favorite booth

456
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: the only thing you know, Like, all right, I think

457
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 2: Ope should leave this guy for sure? Yeah, because he

458
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: actually hasn't been like everything that he's shown has seemed

459
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 2: like he's choosing this gamer girl over Ope. He hasn't

460
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: really shown that he's choosing OPI really yeah, And so

461
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: I think OP should leave, But using the twelve year

462
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 2: relationship as a predictive tool, I do not think she will.

463
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: She should, but she she should, but she won't, but

464
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: she won't if there's an update? Is there an update?

465
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh, there's more pooh edit A couple of a bit

466
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: of info I should have mentioned, but didn't because of

467
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: all that I was putting into the writing without omitting

468
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: something that is much harder than I thought. He cut

469
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: off contact with her because once he told her he

470
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: was married and one of us both, she just ran

471
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: away and broke up with him. So she's gone now.

472
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh there are times since then where my husband started

473
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: feeling sad or angry because of what's basically withdrawal. Oh,

474
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: and for that, he's smart and at least sensible enough

475
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: not to blame me for it. What kind of marriage

476
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: did we have before this crisis. It will sound so naive.

477
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: It was my first and only romantic relationship. We grew

478
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: very close and basically grew as adults together. We could

479
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: talk about anything and understand each other. We share the

480
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: same values and interests. What changed, I think is that

481
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: we got into a routine and he got bored. During

482
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: our argument, he said he was addicted to the attention

483
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: the girl was giving him and that he felt like

484
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: I didn't show him I was in love with him

485
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: enough anymore.

486
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, don't put blame on her. Yeah, dude, Now,

487
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: if you feel that way, then you tell your wife that. Yeah.

488
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you voice it literally. That's the only way that

489
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: that argument is is valid.

490
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: We get back into the story. Job, but something is

491
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: a miss? What is it? I think you haven't subscribed?

492
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 2: What are you doing if you haven't subscribed it? Hit

493
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: that subscribe button right now, do it. Let's get back

494
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: to the story.

495
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: I told him that even if it was true, he

496
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: should have told me Bingo instead of having affair double bingo.

497
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: On one hand, I have my faults too, and I

498
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: could accept I could accept this as one of them.

499
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I was taking care of him

500
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: and the house while he was sick. I don't think

501
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: he believes it. I don't think he means it, but

502
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: it makes me wonder whether I was actually a good

503
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: wife for him, even though I am not responsible for

504
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: his actions. Thanks again for your support, y'all. It's a lot,

505
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: a lot to process, but it helps me so much.

506
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: And we have some relevant comments to close out this story.

507
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 1: Opie on if she and her husband have kids and

508
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: plans on getting counseling. Opie says, kids are off the table. Good,

509
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: thank god, good.

510
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: Definitely don't want to build anything like that on that

511
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: unstable grand I still think he needs to like earn

512
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: back her trust. Yeah, if they want like and they

513
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: have to do therapy, She's like, if you stay, definitely

514
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: don't don't scamp on the therapy, the couple's therapy, and really, like,

515
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: I guess, try try to understand what does what does

516
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: winning back trust even look like? For you? Yeah? What

517
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: does it? Yeah? What does it? What does it look like?

518
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: What does it mean? Yeah? One hundred percent.

519
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: If we do go into counseling and it goes exceptionally, well,

520
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: maybe we'll talk about it about kids, but for now,

521
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: the distrust is already there. He says, I love you,

522
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: but I never know whether it's to regain my trust,

523
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: whether he means it or not. Even if he does,

524
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: does he love me? Or is it a lie he

525
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: tells himself. Dog of the Bone says, if you choose

526
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: to say, don't be surprised if in a year you

527
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: find him talking to someone again. Cheaters are sneaky. They'll

528
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: show remorse and swear they've changed. Meanwhile, they're smirking inside

529
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: because they've started a new affair and thinks they can

530
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: get away with it this time. Op says, thank you.

531
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: It's obvious and well known. Once a cheater, always a cheater,

532
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 1: But reading it helps me me fight denial. I really

533
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: need to break up with him, if not for myself,

534
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: just to show him that actions have consequences.

535
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: She needs to, so she knows she has to, but

536
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 2: she hasn't.

537
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: It hasn't yet, and that is that is all that

538
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: we have written in the story.

539
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: So who's more right? Riley? Yeah? We have? Yeah, this

540
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: is right? Who's right? We both predicted certain things? Who's

541
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: more right?

542
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: I mean you were on the money.

543
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: Also, this was posted two days ago, so we may

544
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: get an update. So there's it's it's This isn't like

545
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: five years ago. You know, it's like, yeah, this could Yeah,

546
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: we can't get update, but continue.

547
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: I mean, Sam, you were on the money, but the

548
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: only flaw in it was you didn't think she could

549
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: divorce the husband. But now she's coming to.

550
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: Her since I don't think she will, even after that

551
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: last part she just said she should, which I think

552
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: she knows that she should, but I don't think. I

553
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: think twelve years is a lot of momentum, and I

554
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: don't think I think she will choose to try to

555
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: make the relationship better and do therapy before she.

556
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: I really the exact sentence there is I really need

557
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: to break up with him.

558
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: But will she is?

559
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but if she's her mindset going to take

560
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: a break up with him, people say I really need

561
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: to quit nicotine, and here people are popping Zin's like

562
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: their tick decks.

563
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: That's true, but John had a good point as well.

564
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: It's it's still up in the air in my in mind, No, no,

565
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: we need.

566
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: Out of the air because because he didn't give a decision,

567
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: you literally have.

568
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 2: To hear the only Yeah, who is more right? What

569
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: do you think? What do you think is ultimately going

570
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: to happen.

571
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, what Sam said, I feel like it's ultimately going

572
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: to happen, but I want to happen.

573
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: What you said, Yeah, so bad.

574
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's leaning this way, but I'm

575
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: hoping it will lean that way.

576
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: There you go. That's that's a tiebreaker. That's a Tiebreaker's

577
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: what we needed. I hope, I hope we get an update.

578
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: I hope if you listen to this, I feel like

579
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: you know what I actually do think going to You're

580
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: going to therapy is going to help crystallize a lot

581
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: of this. So you may not know exactly what to

582
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: do now, but go to therapy with your partner, and

583
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: I think you will discover what his true intentions are

584
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: and that will help you inform whether you should divorce

585
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: or stand this relationship. Yes, yes, I agree? But what

586
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: do you think? Put your answers in the comments below

587
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: one Yeah, who goes next? Who decided? Okay? Ope? Stories?

588
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: By the way, you know I don't want to divorce

589
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: from this episode? No you don't. Yeah, you wanna do

590
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: some of the little therapy? Is there is there more

591
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: that we could possibly we can talk you out with

592
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: this next story? Fun fact I ordered barefoot shoes. Are

593
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: those are the those are the toad ones little toes? Dude,

594
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: are you for Florida or am I from Florida? Is

595
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: that is? That? Is that a Florida thing?

596
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: I had someone I was younger.

597
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: Barefoot shoes And what do you think I.

598
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: Had them when I was younger?

599
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: Kid? Apparently they're better. They're better for your ankles, Like

600
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't roll my ankles as much.

601
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good advertisement right there. I also said that

602
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: was basketball.

603
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't think they did basketball shoes any.

604
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: I feel like like a thicker yeah, like a soul

605
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: would help prevent you from roll your no, no, because you

606
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: roll your ankle while barefoot surfing.

607
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: Yes, that was that was That was extenuating circumstances. That

608
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: was the mother nature. If you were already barefoot, that

609
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: is a great point. But extenuating circumstances I love anyway. Anyways,

610
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: what do we go to those? Next story? So, also,

611
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: if anyone has any advice on barefoot running, I want

612
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: to start running longer distances and bare feet because I,

613
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: contrary to what Riley and John are saying, I do

614
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: think it's better for my ankles and I was born

615
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: to run in my feet. It was born to run.

616
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: We are all born to run with our feet and

617
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: nothing else.

618
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: But like now we have pavement and rocks.

619
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: We had rocks back then. Have you heard of the

620
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: Stone Age? There was nothing but rocks. But what about grass, dude?

621
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: And there were rocks, dirt and rocks, But we were

622
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: not running on rocks. You are telling me in the

623
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: in the millions of years of evolution, says Astro Ostra prolificate,

624
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: Astro didn't happen Ostro Pilithicus. I'm a younger Astro Prolithicus,

625
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: says Ostro prolificate. Ostro Pilithicus was roaming the plains of Africa.

626
00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: You're saying that not one humane human descendants ran on rocks.

627
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: Some people ran, but they were people ran on r

628
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: They weren't like they were their normal thing. What about

629
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: you if you have.

630
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: What about the rock people? There are no rock people.

631
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: There are rock people. There are people that carve their

632
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: homes out of rocks, like in like like like twenty

633
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: thousand years ago.

634
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: You know why they do that?

635
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: Why because they're built like that. I'm built like that,

636
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: and then do it. That's why I'm getting bare feet.

637
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: Then to it Okay, I.

638
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: Am, I am. I am gonna do it and my

639
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: ankles are gonna be great. Why do you need to

640
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: prove this to ust?

641
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: Then?

642
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: Because I want to make it. I want to. I

643
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: wasn't asking you, guys, I was asking them. You guys

644
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: just chimed in. I was having a heart to heart

645
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: with y'all, asking, Hey, does anyone wear barefoot shoes? Can

646
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: you give me any advice? And then the two people

647
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: who never run, mister Bikey McGee and mister CrossFit, are like, oh,

648
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: let me tell you about barefoot running.

649
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about I'm just saying people don't

650
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: usually run on rocks. That's not their optimal path. They

651
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: ran on dirt, they were on grass. But I want

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Speaker 1: to run to this next story, all right,