1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I almost famous in depth 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people I've ever met in the 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise. I told Ashley this as soon as I 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: got back um from Las Vegas. This year at the 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Heart Radio Music Festival, Genevieve and Genevieve is joining us 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: today on an in depth to talk about everything going on, 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: all the confusion. There's so many storylines, there's so much happening, 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: and we're here to get it from the source. Genevieve, welcome, 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: thank you, Hello, Hello. We are so excited to have you. 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: In fact, we've pushed this back a week. I've changed 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: travel schedule just to talk to you. Actually knows this. 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, I was like, I want to talk 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to Genevieve. I I don't know how many more times 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: in our life we're running past each other. I enjoy you. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: I think you're awesome. You remind me a lot of Ashley. 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: But I do just want to start with a story Ashley, 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, of course. So we're in Las Vegas. 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise is not aired yet, just getting ready to. 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: I think it's air in the next week. So Genevieve 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: is there with us, and I have already picked up 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: on just how like great of a character she's gonna be, 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: not because she's a like, not because she's fake, just because, 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: like Genevieve in her real self is somebody that you're like, 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: that's somebody I just want to watch, like, I just 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: want to see what their life looks like all the 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: time because it's hilarious. And so she's sitting there and 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm so nervous for Paradise. I'm freaking out 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: about Paradise and all this stuff. I'm like, You're gonna 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: be fine. And I was like, do you want me 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: to text Wells and see what he thinks? And so 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: I texted well as well as responded with Genevieve is 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: one of our favorite people on the beach this year, 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: and she's gonna get a lot of screen time. So 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: that's why I shared with Genevieve. I said, Hey, you're 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: gonna be great, Like you know, I don't know what 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: went down that you feel so nervous about, but it 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: seems like you're gonna shine. Well, let's fast forward to 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: this point in time. She didn't believe me. She thought 39 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: it was crazy that I was absolutely speaking out of 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: a place of not knowing anything, and I kind of was. 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: But she's beloved and she's one of the faces of paradise. 42 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 1: In fact, this week, I saw a stat from one 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: of our favorite Instagram follows, Bachelor Data, and Genevieve almost 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: doubled everybody else in screen time this season. Who is 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: that insane? I saw that. That's like crazy, I know. So, Genevieve, 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: after all the nerves, do you think all the nerves 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: were worth it? Okay? God, I usually don't think like afterwards, 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't think the nurves are worth it, but never 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: stops me from feeling that way. Um, but no, I'm 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: very happy that's how it turned out. Okay, that's awesome. 51 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: So I feel like you probably got a lot of 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: d m s and tweets about how relatable you are. Yes, 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I have gotten a lot. And it's like people are 54 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: just like you remind me of me. Like it's just 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: you're so relatable because like all my emotions are just 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: so raw and real and um, I think people can 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: see that, which is nice. Do you feel like? Um? Okay, 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: So when you're in the moment of an emotional reaction 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: to something, typically, how are you feeling. Are you just like, 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: this is what's in my head right now, this is 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: how I think this situation can go. Is it a 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: control thing? Like do you want control of the situation? 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: You feel like you're losing it? Like when you're getting 64 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: extra emotional when you're reacting to something, what's going through 65 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: your head? I'm like, sad if I'm crying, I'm like, 66 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: really sad. If I'm mad, I won't be crying. Um. 67 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: And so in those moments, I was just sad. I 68 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: like I just didn't know what to do and I 69 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: felt like there's nothing else I could do. And so yeah, 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: I just are you talking about in the moments that 71 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: like I tried to leave? Yeah, they try to leave. Um, 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: some of the arguments obviously that ended up leading to 73 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: you trying to leave. And I think just frustration because 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: I feel like obviously me and Aaron didn't communicate well, 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: and so I felt like whatever I was saying it 76 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: wasn't being received or heard. So um, that just added 77 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: to like the emotions. Okay, so big question off the 78 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: start then, because we walked into it here. You you 79 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: fell in love with Aaron, Yeah, but you weren't communicating well. 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: So one of the key pieces to fall in love 81 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: with somebody is like having that rhythm and that they 82 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: get you and they understand you, and you get them 83 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: and you understand them. But yet this is also one 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: of the things that you said you didn't have is communication. 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: So how do you fall in love with somebody you 86 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: can't communicate with? That's a good question I have. I 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: think you can fall in love with the wrong I 88 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: think you can fall in love with the wrong person 89 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: for sure, And I think that I I just didn't 90 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: fall in love with the right person for me. Well, 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: do you think it was love or lust? Looking back? 92 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: That's looking back? Um, I would say, I don't know. 93 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: It's hard looking back to believe that I was in love. 94 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: To be honest, Um, I don't know. I don't know. Actually, 95 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: you just said you have you fall in love with somebody, 96 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: and and I'm I mean I have as well. I'm 97 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: not saying it's like abnormal. I was mostly wanting to 98 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: know if as we process post show, you know, how 99 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: in the world you look back and go, how did 100 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: this happen? You know? And then you meet somebody that 101 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: you communicate well with and you're like, how did that happen? 102 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, years ago. So in your opinion, actually, how 103 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: does it happen? Um, I don't know, but I know 104 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: it's not long lasting and I know like it can't sustain. 105 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: I think I was falling in love before I started, 106 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: Like I was falling in love before I kind of 107 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: was realizing all the problems, I guess. So I feel 108 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: like I was already falling in love and then all 109 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: the problems started, like I realized we weren't communicating well, 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: and then I was already there, my feelings already there. 111 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: So I feel like that's what happened. Makes sense. We've 112 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: all been there. I think most people have, right, Yeah, 113 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: And in paradise, I'm sure it can happen a lot 114 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: easier too, because you are on the beach to meet 115 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: somebody and you might you know, you see these relationships 116 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: flourishing around you and you want to be possibly like them, 117 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: Like you're like they have happiness, Now I have happiness, 118 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: and we can walk off in the sunset together on 119 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: this beautiful experience. So it can happen right right Like, 120 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: And I just I went into so much hope. I 121 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: just wanted to make it work. I wanted to on 122 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: my person, and so yeah, for sure. I don't know 123 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: where I was going with that. Do you have any regrets, 124 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: like any specific moments that you wish you could redo 125 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: a lot um going back to the very beginning, UM, 126 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I handled everything with Justin right at all. UM. 127 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: I wish I could do that over UM and with Aaron. 128 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: I I wish I left this second time. Like, looking back, 129 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: I think that I needed to stay the first time 130 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: to see more and like see it through. But then 131 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: the second time there was a gut feeling and I 132 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: should have listened to it. Can you remind us what 133 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: the second time was? Was that the pain versus UM? Well, 134 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: pain versus it? Yeah, but it's it's it is a 135 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: pain or an annoyance? What was it between um itching 136 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: and pain? Itching and pain? Okay, well, just letting you 137 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: know that you are in a space in which all 138 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: of us agree it's an itch and it is not painful. 139 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: UM producer Easton said that it could be. UM. It 140 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: was like a low level this is like a discomfort, 141 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: but that's not a pain. Yeah, here is. According to 142 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: the Scientific American Journal, once thought to be a low 143 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: level form of pain, itch is instead a distinct sensation 144 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: with a dedicated neural circuit linking cells in periphery in 145 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: the periphery of the body to the brain. A study 146 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: of mice suggests so. According to a recent article, itching 147 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: is not pain. I'm sure you've heard that before. I'm 148 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: sure you heard all the pains. I just want to 149 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: make it clear here that this podcast believes it does 150 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: not pain. It's a sensation. Did Scientific American right that 151 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: after the episode? No, no, no, this has been a 152 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: conversation that's been going on for years, a hot topic 153 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: in scientific community. Okay, but you think that you should 154 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: have left, then why is that? I think the way 155 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: that he spoke to me that was like that was, yeah, 156 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: I didn't like that, and I wasn't I shouldn't have stood, 157 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: I should have left. How would you explain the way 158 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: you spoke to you? Condescending, condescending and um just like angry, 159 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: like he would like he would yell at me, like 160 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: raise his voice multiple times. Um as he's telling me 161 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: to not yell at him, and I'm like, I just 162 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: usually pretty calm talking to him. So it was a 163 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: conversation about pain versus itch, and just as as silly 164 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: as an argument as it sounds, you were able to 165 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: get enough like behavioral cues from it. Yes, yeah, And 166 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: I just remember being like, this isn't going to work. 167 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: And then he promised me it wouldn't happen again, and 168 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: so I was like, O, payable if it does and 169 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: happen again, maybe this can work. And I wanted to 170 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: give the shop. So it's and it's interesting. On this podcast, 171 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: we talked about what like wildly simple arguments have kind 172 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: of set us off in our relationship. Actually shared one 173 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: and I was trying to think through one. Um, my 174 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: wife is just not an arguer, Like she doesn't like it, 175 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: and so like I can't argue with somebody that I 176 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want to argue with me because she just is 177 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: like a peacekeeper. Um. But you know, for so many 178 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: they watched that episode and they watched some of these arguments, 179 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: and even Wells said it on television. He's like, this 180 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: is the dumbest argument I've ever heard on Paradise, and um, 181 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, people kind of like laugh, maybe find some 182 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: humor in it, maybe like go back home, Like can 183 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: you believe that people were arguing about pain versus itch? 184 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: But can you take a second and explain just how 185 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: how serious maybe not the context of the argument, but 186 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: the uh, the way the argument was handled, how serious 187 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: that felt to you, uh during that time. Uh, so 188 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: that maybe the viewer can get an idea of, hey, 189 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: this was a real thing for Genevieve during it. Yeah, 190 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: so everyone's not well, it was just the audio because 191 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: the camera wasn't on us. We were getting miked, and 192 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: I had told Aaron I felt impatient, and um, it 193 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: was like a long day. We had been separated from 194 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the guys while Rachel and Gabby were there, um, and 195 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: so I just wanted to spend time with him. So anyways, 196 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: I said I feel impatient and he said, well, you know, 197 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: stress and impatience is the same thing. And I said, no, 198 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: it's not. It's different. And then he said, no, it's 199 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: like itching in pain and the same thing. And I said, no, 200 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: it's not, and he said and then that's when he 201 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: like yelled at me, like it's the same thing thing, 202 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: look it up. And I just I was like, well, 203 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: first of all, I can't look it up. I don't 204 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: have a phone. But I had talked with it up 205 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: that's for sure, and I'm right, um, but I was 206 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: just like, I can't believe something this little I was 207 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: just telling him. I was holding him as I was 208 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: telling him, like saying, I feel impatient. I wasn't acting 209 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: annoyed at him. I was just bringing my feelings to him. 210 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: And that's what it turn him to. I actually couldn't 211 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: believe it. And then the way it ended, he said, no, 212 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: you're good, have a good night. And that's just it. 213 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't like I'm I'm putting myself back there and 214 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: I'm getting frustrated again. But it's just like I was 215 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: trying to bring my feelings to All I needed was 216 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: like a hug. I don't know, I didn't need you 217 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: to compare pain and nitching and then like yell at 218 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: me about it, man, splain it. You didn't anybody man 219 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: splain what you were feeling and thinking you just need 220 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: somebody to hear you. And yeah, and Aaron, we thought 221 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: he knew what was in my head. Every time I said, 222 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: you don't know what I'm thinking, he said, he would say, yes, 223 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: I do know what you're thinking. How would you know that? 224 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: So I was just like, I wouldn't let someone talk 225 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: to me like this over something so silly. And I 226 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: was just trying to bring my emotions to him, and 227 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: this is how it was handled. So yeah, it just 228 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: it is a silly fight, Pane and nitch ng, But 229 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: it's how like how it happened and how it went 230 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: I guess, like how I don't know, I don't know. Ye, well, 231 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like he definitely dismissed you at times like this, 232 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: but you also had a tendency to like pack your 233 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: bags real quick. Are you somebody that that normally tries 234 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: to flee during fights or when it gets hard? So 235 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: in the in real life, I mean I would that's 236 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: the thing in when I tried to leave in real life, 237 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: that's that would be me actually like leaving a relationship, 238 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't continue with that person, um and I 239 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: got convinced convinced to stay. So I mean, like it 240 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: kind of is how I am in real life. You're 241 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: just saying you're not usually convinced to stay. But if 242 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: this is real life, this had been you leaving a 243 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: relationship and not coming back to it, um And I 244 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: think that's what I mean. I get what you're saying. 245 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. But again we have 246 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: to ask a question of what about those unique scenarios 247 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: we're making you go, no, I need to leave. We 248 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: we obviously didn't get to see all this. I can't remember, 249 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: uh if we got to see you saying hey, I'm 250 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: feeling stressed or I'm feeling impatient right now, I don't 251 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: think remember that. Yeah, okay, that would bring a lot 252 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: of context to where this argument is spurred from. But 253 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: were you really wanting to leave these relationships? Were you 254 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: really wanting Aaron to come after you? I truly wanted 255 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: to leave Um in those moments. It was the way 256 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: he spoke to me and how he was handling me, 257 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: bringing my emotions to him. The first time was when 258 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: we were on the day bed and I said, like, 259 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: I had been asking all day to go in the pool, 260 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: and then he looks at he said he's going to 261 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: work out. And then later he looks at Johnny and says, 262 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: scyficals in pool and so like. So I was just like, 263 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie and say nothing wrong. So I 264 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: was like, I have been trying to hang out to 265 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: spend time with you. I wanted to tell him I 266 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: was falling in love with him. So I felt I 267 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: was falling in love with him. Before the first argument, 268 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: Um and that's why I think it was so tough. Um. 269 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: And so he just he told me I was gaslighting him, 270 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: which just I mean, I've never even been told I 271 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: was gaslighting anyone, UM, and I still do not believe 272 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: I was, because I was talking pretty calmly, and um, 273 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: he just the way he walked away from it. And 274 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: then I went to give him space and I came 275 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: back down to try and talk and he said, oh, 276 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: so it's on your time now, and then he was 277 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: just talking like condescending, like it. I didn't like it. 278 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: And so that was the first time, and the second 279 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: was the itching and pain that we talked about. So 280 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: I think it just really is rooted in how he 281 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: spoke to me and how he dealt with me bringing 282 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: my emotions to him in a calm manner. Well, I 283 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: feel like we can really analyze this further, but we 284 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: do need to move on to the breakup and then 285 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: the present day. So your breakup was actually, can I 286 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: barge in here for a second. I just want to 287 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: know before and you get there, there's obviously times in 288 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: between that we didn't get to see that brought you 289 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: two together. I want to give the signal like I 290 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: want to give the right time for how significant this 291 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: relationship really was. You were falling in love with him, 292 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: So what were we not seeing on television that that 293 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: was bringing you two together? That we're making you too 294 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: feel like, Hey, this is something that I want to 295 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: see through and I want to make work. Honestly, I 296 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: think like in that situation, you're just I mean, like 297 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: it's a different worlds. You're just on the beach with 298 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: your friends and this one person that you're trying to 299 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 1: get to know, and like, he was very affectionate for me, 300 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: at least, he was very affectionate and not is my 301 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: love language, and I really like that. So I think, like, 302 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's bad. Though, he was 303 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: very affectionate, and I felt like that was like bringing 304 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: us closer. Um, we never really had serious conversations. Um, 305 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know. Looking back and thinking back, I 306 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: think I should have picked up on some flags. Honestly, 307 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: for sure, it sounds like a relationship that I can 308 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: relate to. I feel like when there's like an extreme 309 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: attraction and then there is somebody meeting your love language, 310 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: which is physical, you know, touch, you can fall in 311 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: love without really having the communication. There that's what that's 312 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: what like he was so affectionate, Like was always like 313 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: hugging me, kissing me, and that's what I love. And 314 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: so that's I think what made me fall in love 315 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: with him. We didn't like it wasn't like we had 316 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: serious talks. We never once talked about like life after 317 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: um or anything like that. But it makes sense now, 318 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: like it just yeah, it didn't make sense then, but 319 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: it does not. Your actual breakup was truly bizarre because 320 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: he sits you down in what we saw on TV. 321 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: You don't have anything, you don't say anything, and he 322 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: says something along the lines of you look beautiful today. 323 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna work out between us. Um, 324 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: I wish you nothing but the best. Goodbye. Were you 325 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: really silent? I was silent? I was so blindsided. I 326 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm rarely at a loss for words rarely, and I 327 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: was at a loss for words, like I didn't even 328 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: know what to say. Um because mainly because I tried 329 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: to leave twice and he came after me and like 330 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: promised me would change. The night before he gave me 331 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: a rose. He said, I see potential. I know I'm 332 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: hard to deal with, and I love you like what, 333 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: you accept this road. So the next day I wasn't 334 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: expecting him to break up with me, so I was 335 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: like WHOA, And I didn't know what to say, so 336 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: I was silent until one of the girls convinced you 337 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: to go back down there and face him and actually 338 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: say it. What was on your mind? Yes? Um? And 339 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: then I marched back down there and he said, oh, 340 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: so I should give you the time now. Um. Yes, 341 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: because we were in a relationship, and I think I 342 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: have the right to give my set of not my 343 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: side of the story, but like, say how I feel 344 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: because I was so blindsided when he had originally told 345 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: me um, and he just kept saying he's at peace 346 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: with it. I don't it. It wasn't a good It 347 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: wasn't a good end to a relationship, that's for sure. 348 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: But I felt like he was trying to put all 349 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: the blame on me and not take accountability for anything 350 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: you did, um, and just say it was because you left, 351 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: it was because you have been I need something that's 352 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: going to stick around, So tell me if I'm wrong. Uh. 353 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know Aaron at all. I never met 354 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: the guy, but that moment felt very um calculated, like 355 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: it had been in the works that it hadn't. It 356 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: didn't have a great excuse because typically where you're in 357 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: a relationship and you have an argument and you can 358 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: talk it out and get back together, Um, you move 359 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: on and you learn from hey, I don't want you 360 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: yelling at me anymore, and that's now understood, and so 361 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, next step, right, We're gonna keep trying 362 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: to make this thing work. But then all of a 363 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: sudden on the beach that evening, things just ended out 364 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: of nowhere like it was pre planned. I absolutely think 365 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: that he had to leave the beach single um, and 366 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: he had no plans of leaving. In a relationship, it's 367 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: definitely not engaged. Well, let's go. I mean it had 368 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: to have been. Yeah, it had to have been, because 369 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: if you look at the timeline, it doesn't make sense 370 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: to get me convinced me to stay two times when 371 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: you could have let me go days before. Um, you 372 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: could have not given me the rose um, and then 373 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: it just it doesn't make sense. So why do you 374 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: feel like he needed to leave the beach single um? Well, 375 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: obviously there's all the rumors. Um, I don't even know 376 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: if I want to say rumor, because I think it's 377 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: pretty uh transprove of it. Yeah, Um that Aaron had 378 00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: a girlfriend before leaving for Paradise. Um, and not only one, 379 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: but two, and one of them wouldn't like, wouldn't stay 380 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: with him while he went on Paradise, and the other 381 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: one in the messages was saying she's going to talk 382 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: to him when he gets back about the situation. And 383 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: so she was dating him and expecting him to come 384 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: back to her. Um. And that is why it makes 385 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: so much sense why he had to break up with 386 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: me at the end. So do you feel like he 387 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: knew the entire time that he was going to date 388 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: somebody there, stay in Paradise as long as he possibly could, 389 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: and then break up with that person A k you 390 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: in this case at the very last minute. Yes, And 391 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: I that's I didn't understand, Like after Paradise. I'm so 392 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: happy this stuff came out because I have clarity now 393 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: because I didn't understand how that happened. How he could 394 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: just get me to stay, say he loves me, and 395 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: the next day do that. It's something was off. And 396 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: I found out what was off. He like he had 397 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: someone else. So UM, I'm happy. I'm like kind of happy. 398 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: I found that out because it just it makes sense. 399 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: That helps. It makes sense. Well, do you know like 400 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: when we say relationship, because when I went on Win 401 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: Our Games, I was dating, Like I was out and 402 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: going on dates. Up until the show, I was single, 403 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: So we're these like dating relationships. Were these like acquaintances 404 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: that maybe you've seen once or twice, or were these 405 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: like committed I'm in this thing, We've had the conversation relationships? Yeah, no, UM. 406 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: And like another thing they were in they were vacationing 407 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: summer like last year. So the girl that he's still 408 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: with so they have been like like a boyfriend girlfriend 409 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: And I actually talked to um, the girl that isn't 410 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 1: with him anymore. UM, she's so sweet and it's kind 411 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: of crazy hearing her stories. Basic what was in the 412 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: post by Reality Steve was that both girls found out 413 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: that he was telling the same thing to both of 414 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: them that the other was a friend in not to 415 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: worry about it. Um. And they found out because they 416 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: message each other each other on Instagram and they m 417 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: compared timelines and it all overlapped. So he was like, 418 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: somehow in a relationship with these two people. UM, up 419 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: until Paradise. So one seemed to be a girlfriend that 420 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: was like through and through from like September to Paradise, 421 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: and then there was one that was a little bit 422 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: more on again off again, the one that was full on. 423 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: She did say in the back and forth d MS 424 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: that reality Steve posted that she wasn't looking for something serious, 425 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: which was interesting. Um, but so and so that's why 426 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: she said it was okay for him to go to Paradise. 427 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: Aaron was recently seen at this girl, his presumed girlfriend's birthday, 428 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: with Jacob and Logan. Have you talked to either Jacob 429 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: or Logan or heard from anybody who's been around this 430 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: girl from the franchise? Um? No, I have not. I 431 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: haven't talked. The only person I have talked to is um, 432 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: the other girl that is not with him anymore. And 433 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: I didn't reach out to Logan or Jacob because I 434 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: didn't we weren't. We weren't together after um it more 435 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: just was helping me gain clarity to what the happened 436 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: on this season to be honest. Um, So yeah, I 437 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: didn't reach out to Jacober Logan. I really don't like 438 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: care to know about her. Um. Yeah, I know that 439 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: when you when I saw you a couple of months ago. 440 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: I think the show is just starting to air, and 441 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: I said, have you talked to Aaron at least, because 442 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: almost all of Bachelor in Paradise couples talk after the show, 443 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: just to like kind of get a better he said. 444 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: She said, version of their story because there's so many 445 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: people in our ears. And when you said you hadn't 446 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: heard from him at all since he left that beach, 447 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: I was astonished. And now I'm sure that's another thing 448 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: that you have so much more clarity on exactly you 449 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: said it perfectly. It makes so much sense looking back. 450 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: That was so strange to me because we were like 451 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: friends before her friends. I don't know. Um, it was 452 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: so shocking to me that he didn't reach out once, 453 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: not once and again Now it makes sense like I 454 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: just knew something was off. I knew there was a 455 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: piece missing that I didn't know, and um, I found 456 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: it out. What do you find out? Um? When reality 457 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: Steve messaged me saying, HI, just wondering if you knew 458 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: that Aaron had a girlfriend like back home and I 459 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: said absolutely not, And he said he's going to put 460 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: out a post the next day. So the next day, 461 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: I looked at the post and I was like, that's 462 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: when I found out reality Steve was going to put 463 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: out a post. Now, unfortunately this came out after the 464 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: reunion show was filmed, so you weren't able to confront 465 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: him on the show. Yeah, that's Um. I wish I 466 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: could have so I wouldn't have to like, I would 467 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: love to hear what he has to say about it, honestly, Um, 468 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: but I wish. I do wish that I could have 469 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: confronted him and just asked and maybe just gotten a 470 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: little more clarity for why why he would do that 471 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: to someone. You didn't have to tell me. He didn't 472 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: have to tell me he loves me, He didn't have 473 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: to take it that far. So yeah, it sucks that 474 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: came out like a few days after. But okay, your 475 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: paradise experienced Genevieve, Um has had twists and turns, yes 476 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: since from the very beginning to now, and you're learning 477 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: things after the show is over. We only have a 478 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: few more minutes with you here, I know, um, but 479 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear what life looks like now. It's 480 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: been a few months now since you've been back from 481 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: the beach. Obviously, you're not feeling great. Um, so thank 482 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: you for coming on even with a little um, but 483 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: how is life now? How are you processing everything? And 484 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: how are you going to move forward? So like the 485 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: show just you know, the show just finished airing. Is 486 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: the first week that it's not airing since it started. 487 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: So Honestly, while I was airing, I was just a 488 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: nervous like I just was always anxious and so I like, 489 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: I didn't really do much like I got. I moved 490 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: in with Rachel. Um, like, we've been setting up our 491 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: apartment and all that. Um, but I don't really know. 492 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: I've just been trying to hell, I guess from all 493 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: of that and get back to like my normal life, 494 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: or at least try to. You are living with Rachel, 495 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: the former bachelorette or the current bachelorette. Um, you know 496 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: because their season Raining Raining Bachelor. I don't know what 497 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: you'd say. Where are you living? What city? Did you 498 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: too choose? Brand must Hollywood? You're in West Hollywood together? 499 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: How's that going so far? Are you guys going to 500 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I love her like I love her. 501 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: We get along so well. Um, yeah, she's awesome. M Well, 502 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: I can't imagine the single adventures you two are having. 503 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: It's probably it's probably fun that you're in the same boat. Yeah, 504 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: it is. It's nice that we are in the same boatum, 505 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: But it's funny. We really just like having wine on 506 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: our couch. That's like our thing. We don't go out much, 507 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: but it's nice to have her. It was nice to 508 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: have her through all that. Thank you so much for, 509 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, opening your heart and being so vulnerable with us. 510 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: We are going to do another episode with you, and 511 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit more fun and lighthearted. 512 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be about the holidays, so audience of you 513 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: just want some some fun, stay tuned for that. But 514 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: until then, we'd like you to follow along with our 515 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 1: sign off with that. Is that good? Yes? All right, 516 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: I've been Ashley, I've been jin Yeah. Perfect. Thanks for 517 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: joining us. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous 518 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.