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Speaker 1: This He's talking Cowboys Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: Bryan Brats, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Stern. Welcome everybody into

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Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It is talking Tuesday, and we

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Speaker 1: have some technical difficulties, but we are on and rolling here.

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Speaker 1: I got Robin Brian Mickey still you know growing that

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Speaker 1: beard somewhere. He'll be back soon. Do we know where

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Speaker 1: he is? We we don't know the man of the wilderness,

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Speaker 1: and we'll just let that go. Yeah, probably skiing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll be fine. Are you guys glad to be back though,

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Speaker 1: after your indie trip? Yeah, there's still a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to do, would you say? Fifty days till the draft?

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Speaker 1: Fifty one to day fifty tomorrow, so yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: Draft show rolling right after this, right after this twelve fifteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get this magazine we're working on, just grind it

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Speaker 1: on tape. Just yeah, I mean, it's just it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit different because we've added a couple more guys

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Speaker 1: to every position, so that makes it a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a different aspect for me. But yeah, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to kind of getting that thing done into the month,

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Speaker 1: hopefully be out first of April. It's hilarious because when

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Speaker 1: Brian does start looking at guys early December December and like,

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Speaker 1: why is he doing that? You know, it's so far

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Speaker 1: away from now, and then all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: blink in it's time. Yeah. I just it's amazing. Once

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Speaker 1: you get done with the combine, then now you're into

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Speaker 1: Pro days, and once the Pro days start, you're going

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Speaker 1: to draft. That's just the way it is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's crazy and hopefully we'll get hit some Pro days,

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Speaker 1: but that's a that's a draft show day. Absolutely. And guys,

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Speaker 1: if you are interested in being in the DFW area

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Speaker 1: at AT and T Stadium for the NFL Draft, there

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Speaker 1: is still time to sign up on the NFL Fan

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Speaker 1: Mobile Pass. You have until March four teams duce so

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Speaker 1: then it's kind of just luck of the draw lottery, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to get those draft tickets. But you still have the

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Speaker 1: time to do so. And if you guys have been

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Speaker 1: on Twitter lately, you might have seen that, just like

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Speaker 1: we all did, DeMarcus Lawrence found out that he did,

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Speaker 1: in fact get franchise tagged ahead of today's deadline at

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Speaker 1: three pm, which was awesome. Yeah. I think DeMarcus Lawrence

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Speaker 1: has handled the franchise tag situation as well as probably anyone,

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Speaker 1: right right, well, yeah, yeah, I mean he's thirteen million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's what you made last year. It's slightly

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Speaker 1: below what I made. Yeah, so I'm trying to do

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Speaker 1: my taxes right now. It's a little difficult. But no,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is this is kind of where I

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Speaker 1: was going here. This is I'm okay with what the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys did here, and I understand they couldn't get a

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Speaker 1: deal done with Lawrence. I mean for a long term,

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Speaker 1: and this will buy him, buy him an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: do that, but make him, make him play another year,

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Speaker 1: make him show you that he's worth you know, the

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Speaker 1: amount of money that you're going to have to use

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Speaker 1: to sign him long term. He seems fine with that.

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Speaker 1: He won Twitter yesterday, by the way, Oh he won Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, immediately Charon, Hey, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: this was even happening. Thanks everyone, then saying you know,

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Speaker 1: while I'm on here, Dez caught it. Then later in

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Speaker 1: the evening, his family only left him one slice of pizza,

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Speaker 1: humbled him and Brandon he echoed your tax messages. Funny gift.

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Speaker 1: But absolutely. How great is it that he actually signed

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Speaker 1: the tender last night? Well, I think it's good from

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Speaker 1: the standpoint of there's no contentiousness, and there was. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think there was a little bit with Dez Bryant

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Speaker 1: three years ago and he didn't want to sign the tag,

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Speaker 1: didn't sign the tag, and you went four months of okay,

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of I think Anthony Spencer several years

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Speaker 1: ago signed the franchise tag, like, okay, you want to

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Speaker 1: give me twelve million guaranteed right on the spot? Fine,

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Speaker 1: where do I sign about twenty four million dollars for

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Speaker 1: playing one year? Not bad? And I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he winds up just playing on the tag,

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Speaker 1: I'm the player, any player typically doesn't like the franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: You want that long term security, like you said, Brian,

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Speaker 1: you want some some gart money to go along with

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Speaker 1: that guaranteed stuff. But I like that, you know, if

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Speaker 1: he does, like you said, make him play for it,

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Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah. Because of the fact then you

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Speaker 1: now back to back season, he's proven to you he

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Speaker 1: is a sack leader, he's a dominant pass rusher in

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Speaker 1: that also shows that his willingness to cooperate with the

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Speaker 1: last season kind of affected his regular season. Sure, so

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Speaker 1: I'm with it. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt

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Speaker 1: that that Lawrence, if he goes with the same goes

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Speaker 1: about the same way that he went through it last

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Speaker 1: year getting ready for the season. You know, the offseason program,

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Speaker 1: whatever he did to change his workouts, eating habits, whatever

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Speaker 1: he did. He needs to go back to that program

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Speaker 1: and and and do as well. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: I I it kind of these these contracts are just

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Speaker 1: making me think though about you know what contract is

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Speaker 1: mad about? You know that. I mean, you want to

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Speaker 1: make these guys earn the contract you want to make them.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody's been getting on Jerry Jones and Stephen

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Speaker 1: mean now every you know, it seems like that initially

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Speaker 1: if it's something that that he should proves he gets

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Speaker 1: so he's not an older player, but it is you know,

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Speaker 1: putting this the franchise tag on him, that is a

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Speaker 1: you know, they've they started off with some space and

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Speaker 1: they have him twelve thousand dollars left. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: a half after slotting him. So now you've got to

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Speaker 1: One way is to get a deal with Zack Martin

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Speaker 1: them being big spenders on the open market. Great segue, Rob,

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Speaker 1: because yes, you brought up Zach Martin and Dez Bryan

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Speaker 1: Could you get it done before March fourteenth and create

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Speaker 1: not so worried about Martin. I wonder if you get

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Speaker 1: I left the Combine scratching my head over the Deaz situation.

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Speaker 1: But I think all those talks with Martin last season

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Speaker 1: from the Combine, I think, if they deal with Dez

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Speaker 1: I think he wants to play. I think he understands.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys understand what Dez Bryant means this organization,

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Speaker 1: not only on the field, but off the field. Think

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Speaker 1: at the jersey sales and things like that. Again, I'm

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Speaker 1: not tying it into the only reason to keep him around.

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Speaker 1: It's because his jersey sell as well. But he's one

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Speaker 1: of the most recognizable players on this franchise, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to say, though, if they do it the

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Speaker 1: right way, I think everybody could be happy about the

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Speaker 1: direction this thing is going to go. And here's the

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Speaker 1: other aspect of it. And we've talked about it on

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Speaker 1: the show, and we've got a Twitter poll later in

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Speaker 1: the show about biggest needs in free agency. You let

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Speaker 1: him go, and now you've added another primary need to

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Speaker 1: like that you guys really made Dave seem like he

427
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Speaker 1: was a comedian some sort Brian, you know, just everywhere

428
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Speaker 1: and all the above. Obviously, I feel like the biggest topic,

429
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Speaker 1: at least from social view from the weekend was Chachem Griffin. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, not only could everyone talk about the fact

431
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Speaker 1: that he had an amazing forty time that was really

432
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Speaker 1: not expected for him, but just an absolute show out performance.

433
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Speaker 1: Feel like he stole the show. Am I wrong? Yeah?

434
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Speaker 1: I think that everybody. And if you're if you're late

435
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Speaker 1: to the Schachem Griffin party, welcome aboard. Been riding in. Yeah,

436
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: this is a young man that's you know, if every

437
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Speaker 1: I believe everybody knows the story about the birth effect

438
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Speaker 1: with his left hand. You know, he's played his entire

439
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Speaker 1: career without a left hand. And as you know see

440
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Speaker 1: I'm looking over at our screen right now that you

441
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Speaker 1: see he's using the device on his hand to to

442
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Speaker 1: bench press and that was twenty times you know with Yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: and so it's amazing. And the electricity in that area,

444
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Speaker 1: that workout area when he was lifting, it was like

445
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Speaker 1: it was like a game day, if you mean the

446
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Speaker 1: fans were screaming. The way it's set up there, the

447
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Speaker 1: fans were allowed to watch the weightlifting and our table

448
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Speaker 1: is right there on the other side. Yeah, and they

449
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: and the fans were just totally getting into it and

450
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Speaker 1: he was feeling it. And you know, twenty reps, you know,

451
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Speaker 1: and that for a guy that's you know, two hundred

452
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: and twenty seven pounds, I mean, he's pretty impressive. But this,

453
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Speaker 1: you know, when you watch him, like I say that

454
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Speaker 1: that part right there you're seeing right there running, he's

455
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Speaker 1: a blur on tape. That that that that that part

456
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Speaker 1: of it did not surprise me at all. The lateral agility,

457
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Speaker 1: the quickness, all that right there. I mean, that's that's

458
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Speaker 1: what this kid is. That's the type of player he is.

459
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Speaker 1: When you watch him play, he's not hard to find

460
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Speaker 1: on the field because he's always around the football. He's

461
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Speaker 1: always in the in the pilemaking to tackle. You just

462
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Speaker 1: got to figure out, Tay, where you want to draft

463
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Speaker 1: him and where do you want to play him. That

464
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the trick for the teams. Is he

465
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Speaker 1: a guy that will be a starter initially? Probably not,

466
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Speaker 1: but he's more likely a will linebacker, probably going to

467
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Speaker 1: be a guy that you of course he'll be on

468
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Speaker 1: all your special teams. He'll be a guy that I

469
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Speaker 1: think you want rushing the passer. I really don't know

470
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Speaker 1: if you want him always stuff. You see him right

471
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Speaker 1: there with the drops and things like that. This is

472
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Speaker 1: his game right there, his ability to attack the pocket.

473
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Speaker 1: That's the kind of guy he is. So uh, you know,

474
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Speaker 1: you just have to be you have to have a

475
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Speaker 1: plan for him. And I know there's a lot of

476
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Speaker 1: people pulling for him for sure. Oh absolutely, I think

477
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Speaker 1: Jason Witten is one of them. Saw him won the

478
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Speaker 1: award right two weeks ago here in Frisco when he

479
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Speaker 1: actually won Jason Witten's first ever collegiate Man of the

480
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Speaker 1: Year award deservedly, so, I mean, just to hear him

481
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Speaker 1: talk about it, for him to be around here, it

482
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: felt like he was extremely excited about all things draft,

483
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Speaker 1: especially Cowboys. Oh absolutely, probably a cool experience for him

484
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: and in the other two finals as well, But just

485
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Speaker 1: I mean, Jason talked about it, just the inspiration he

486
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Speaker 1: is to get where he is at this just to

487
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Speaker 1: play college football with what he's had to overcome, and

488
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: the fact that, like Brian said, how productive he's been

489
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Speaker 1: as as a guy who can rush the pastor as

490
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Speaker 1: a guy who can make tackles. Yeah, and you know,

491
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Speaker 1: like he said, I don't know if he starts for

492
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: you day one, but how much of special teams is

493
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Speaker 1: just will and determination and get after it down the field.

494
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Speaker 1: And that's what he's he's he's a sub package player.

495
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he can do. You could put

496
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Speaker 1: him on the field and allow him you know, it's

497
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Speaker 1: put him in some special things where he's can blitz

498
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Speaker 1: you know. Again, I anything he's doing where he's going

499
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Speaker 1: at the football, I'm all for with it. I'm all

500
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Speaker 1: with it. Now. The problem if you're a Cowboy fan

501
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: or the Cowboy team, you've got a linebacker that and

502
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Speaker 1: I think he's a will linebacker. I don't think that

503
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Speaker 1: he is a MIC linebacker. Now. Yeah, now, if you

504
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: if you, if you ask me of guys that could

505
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: play as a Mike, Roquan Smith can play as a

506
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: mike linebacker from Georgia right on him. Yeah, he's a

507
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: first round guy. He's not the biggest linebacker either. No,

508
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: but but but you watch him play and you watch

509
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: his lateral agility, you watch the way he plays with

510
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: his hands. He doesn't. He rarely gets blocked. You know,

511
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: He's always a step ahead of where this is at

512
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: it Roquan. Yeah, this this is a guy that, like

513
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: you say that number three is in a lot of piles.

514
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: You'll see him when they see the ball goes outside

515
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: boat right there. That's the kind of guy. He is,

516
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: always got a nose for the ball. But he's a

517
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: little bit stouter guy, you know. And when you when

518
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: you start talking about a little bit stouter guy, I

519
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: mean he's two hundred and thirty six pounds, could probably

520
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: bulk him up to about two hundred and forty pounds,

521
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: kind of hitchen side. Yeah, he is just all over

522
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: the place and I love what I mean, just physical player.

523
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: And I was laughing with the Raider guys because everybody's

524
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: mocking him to the Raiders at ten and I was like,

525
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: come on, guys, man, yeah, cut us, cut us some slack. Here,

526
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: cut us a little slack and this guy, Yeah, let

527
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Speaker 1: us take somebody else. Well, we'll take this guy off

528
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Speaker 1: your hands. Yeah. You don't think he's getting a nineteen,

529
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: do you? No, I don't don't. But he's not for

530
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Speaker 1: everybody because again, the lack of hythe But when you

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Speaker 1: watch the tape, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, when you

532
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Speaker 1: watch the tape, I mean, this guy just he never

533
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: comes off the field and he just will make every

534
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 1: single tackle right there, filling the gaps. That's just what

535
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: he does. But the thing again with with uh, you know,

536
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Speaker 1: with Griffin, need to play him on off the ball outside,

537
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: let him kind of play a little bit more in

538
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: space and you have on the take on. Okay, so

539
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: how turn us into the Draft show, which is next.

540
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: I know I was gonna say, that's a good highlights

541
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Speaker 1: So Smith though, great job in the real quick Yeah,

542
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Speaker 1: how much did he help himself at the comment like

543
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: did he help Smith around? No? Griffin? Oh Griffin? Yeah?

544
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh yes. The thing that light years I don't know

545
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: if light because I think people saw what he was

546
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: as a player. There's the public perception. Oh, America just

547
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: found out who he is. Yeah, if you watch you

548
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: Seef tape, you know the hell you trust me. I

549
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: mean again, here's a guy we're seeing. I love the

550
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: fact that we can do this now. By the way,

551
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm supposed to be. Yeah, everybody

552
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: in TV, thank you so much for putting us all together.

553
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is what this is, what this guy is.

554
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he is a he's a run hit kind

555
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: of a so for scouts, it just kind of solidified

556
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: what they've seen on tape. Oh yeah, but he's probably

557
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: a mid round guy. I ask you this, four three eight,

558
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: you know on the forty that was that was I

559
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: think was one of those he said, Okay, maybe four

560
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: four five, four four eight, but four three eight that's

561
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: a little bit different, a little bit different animal there

562
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: right there. But man, I tell you what a heck

563
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: of a football player. And you have to have a plan.

564
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: You have to have a plan for how you want

565
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: to play him and what you want to do with him.

566
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: I love him too, all right, Well I also love

567
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: don't want to play against him. And well McClay got

568
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: a two year contracted extension, which is nice. I know

569
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: that doesn't guarantee that, you know, every off season we

570
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: won't be talking about him and some GM talk. Yeah,

571
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: but I think that shows that they're willing to continue

572
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: to invest in him, that the decisions he makes as

573
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: far as fame here will pay off for him. I

574
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: think where will is such a benefit to this organization

575
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: is the fact that and I talk about the triangle.

576
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: He understands the triangle. The Joneses are at the top

577
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: of the triangle. The coaches are at one corner, and

578
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: the scouts are the other. Will has generally got two

579
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: groups mad at him, and he's always trying to figure

580
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: out ways. But he's a he's a great administrator. He's

581
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: been a former coach, he's a scout. He understands how

582
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: to work with the Joneses. They trust him. That's what

583
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: you need right there. Somebody sitting in that chair smart. Yeah,

584
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: you need somebody sitting in that chair that understand how

585
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: to kind of get all the groups together and be

586
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: how to put the boards together, and how to work

587
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: with free chiefs. Now, he'll admit it, he'll admit it.

588
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: You know, they need to do a little better if

589
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna bottom fish in these free agency things. You know,

590
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: if they're gonna bottom fish for some guys and they're

591
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: not going to spend a lot of money, they didn't

592
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: do a bit better job at hitting on those guys.

593
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: That's something the Eagles were able to do last year.

594
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: They hit on some guys like all Sean Jeffrey. You know,

595
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: they got some guys. They made some trades. Yea. Those

596
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: are things that Will is going to have to do

597
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: to kind of get get this roster back the way.

598
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: It's a good roster and it's gotten better because of

599
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: him being in that. A lot of it's drafting and

600
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: what he's done. And Brian said it, like I met

601
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: him when he was the defensive coordinator for the Desperado

602
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: the Arena League and just watching him in that role

603
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: transition in this role, he is, like he said to

604
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: he's such a great communicator. He gets everybody on page

605
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: same page in the war room with that whole draft process.

606
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: But he's also a really good talent evaluator and the

607
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys recognize that. And it helps his case too when

608
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Speaker 1: you got the text being interested in him in every

609
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: offseason he's turning down jobs because he loves it here.

610
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Speaker 1: But you know what, the right job will come along

611
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: for him. And as a Cowboy fan, that's what you

612
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: need to be worried about. I don't ever want it too,

613
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: the right job. Oh man, Okay, well, we have to

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Speaker 1: take our last break. Great quickly, we'll come back. We'll

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Speaker 1: what it takes to be a cowboy. Everyone's got their ideas,

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Speaker 1: one most cut out to be a cowboy. Stetson hats

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Speaker 1: to find a retailer nearest you. What does it mean

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Speaker 1: to be a Dallas Cowboys fan. It means you've got

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Speaker 1: the passion of the heart to do your part supporting

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Speaker 1: the boys no matter what. That's why when the game's

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Speaker 1: on the line, you're on your feet, whether you're at

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Speaker 1: home or in the stands. Actually, you're more than a fan.

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Speaker 1: You are a member of Cowboys Nation, and so is

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Speaker 1: AT and T doing their part to keep you connected

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Speaker 1: to America's team all season law At and T is

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Speaker 1: a proud member of Cowboys Nation. This is talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: You know why Papa John's pizza tastes so great? Guys? First, Rob,

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Speaker 1: it's the ingredients, like the veggie's, never frozen, pepperoni, one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent CLOrk and beef. Better ingredients, better pizza. Papa

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Speaker 1: John's in a pizza party with the Raiders. Yeah we did,

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Speaker 1: you know, just rub it in your better friends them.

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Speaker 1: We get it now. I think we love them more

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Speaker 1: than us. Pictures together their social guy Tay. Do you

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Speaker 1: know their social guys? I heard his name was Matt.

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Speaker 1: I heard super cool. And you want to trade, say

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Speaker 1: we missed you. This is a funny thing, you know.

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Speaker 1: This is an inside joke. We'll explain, but we always

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Speaker 1: joke about, you know, we talk about these guys almost

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Speaker 1: like chess. Pieces is extremely unfair, but in the sense

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Speaker 1: like if you were to wake up tomorrow and someone says,

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Speaker 1: all right, you've been traded to San Francisco. You start

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Speaker 1: later today, Yeah bye, Like we joke about if that

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Speaker 1: happened with like myself, Like I got traded with the

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Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders social person I have to start at the

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Speaker 1: end of the week. Bye guys, Matt Walks. Matt Walks,

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Speaker 1: great guy, follows work. Come on the dam gets social

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Speaker 1: guy for a long time. That's been fantastic. You think

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Speaker 1: that you would get traded for like a couple? Would

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Speaker 1: you get traded for like a The value I bring

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Speaker 1: would be like a social social guy and then a

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Speaker 1: Kent or which oh god, no, no one can do

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Speaker 1: Ken's stop. I would get traded with like the social

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Speaker 1: person and they're like mel but you would like you.

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Speaker 1: You would like all black. You could be like you

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Speaker 1: can wear all black all the time and be like

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Speaker 1: because it's two very swaggy organizations. I didn't see coach

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Speaker 1: Pisaccio this weekend, but good Yeah he was enjoying it,

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Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, good times, good times all around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he came back from the combine. All right, Well we

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Speaker 1: hinted at it earlier. Rob your Twitter poll. Yes, the results.

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Speaker 1: It is about that free agency based pole. We took

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Speaker 1: care of DeMarcus Lawrence signs or none none or none?

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Speaker 1: What how many guys were going to sign none or none?

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Speaker 1: They got? He lost signed signs stag. Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: this is both free agent slash position most important to

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Speaker 1: address this offseason now that you've got d Law taken

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Speaker 1: care of at least for one year. Yeah, Jonathan Cooper

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Speaker 1: slash left guard, Anthony Hitchens slash linebacker, David Irving slash

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Speaker 1: defensive end, defensive tackle or LP, you're long snapper. What's

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Speaker 1: what's the most not maybe not just the player itself

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Speaker 1: because we know how LP won. That was a good Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know how valuable Hitchens is, but the spot itself too.

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Speaker 1: Who where do they need to really address in the

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Speaker 1: offseason the most? Okay, we including the are we including

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Speaker 1: the draft? Is the way to do this? Or it

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Speaker 1: has to be with free agents? Well we're talking free agency.

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Speaker 1: Focus on free agency, Like, I don't know if they're

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Speaker 1: going to go draft along snapper, No, right, but probably not.

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Speaker 1: They didn't draft LP. Yeah, they found him on a

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Speaker 1: Randy See. This is where this is workout day. This

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Speaker 1: is tough because I think you can address take out

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Speaker 1: the snapper part, but you could dress the other ones

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Speaker 1: through the draft, which yeah, I think the linebacker when

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Speaker 1: you can address to the draft, I believe you can

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Speaker 1: address the defensive tackle one. That's something I really really

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Speaker 1: have liked about this draft, even though we've lost maybe

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Speaker 1: lost Maurice Hurst, who was a guy that kind of

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Speaker 1: was penciled in here first round talent from Michigan who's

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Speaker 1: got a heart condition. Yeah, there's still way to see

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Speaker 1: quote to Cleveland Clinic for that significant that is. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that you think you can us the linebacker

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Speaker 1: free agency though. I mean they've struggled with free agent linebackers,

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Speaker 1: haven't they. Um so they try to trying to go

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Speaker 1: back and say they signed Brook So yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean how I mean that how how how many? How

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Speaker 1: many times? H how many times have you know they've

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Speaker 1: gone in this route of free agency, you know, like

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Speaker 1: well bottom fish for a guy, yeah, and then it

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Speaker 1: not really worked out. I think of the guy Brinkley,

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Speaker 1: Jasper Brinkley. Gosh, yes, remember that Giant. Then he went out,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was with the Giants. Thought well yeah Vikings

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Speaker 1: Vikings here Giants. Yeah, we had to pay him like

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Speaker 1: a million dollars for the I mean we could just

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Speaker 1: look at last year. Yeah, it's there's a lot there's

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Speaker 1: teams with a lot of money. Yeah, there's the teams

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Speaker 1: with a lot of money there too, and that I'm

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Speaker 1: just looking right now just I'm just gonna give you

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Speaker 1: an example. The Browns have one hundred and eight million

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Speaker 1: dollars in cap space. Jets are next at eighty nine million,

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Speaker 1: Colts at seventy two. This is all millions, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Buck years sixty nine, forty nine or sixty six, Bears

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Speaker 1: at sixty two, Texans at sixty two, Redskins at forty seven.

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Speaker 1: Think about that. I mean, there's a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: that have money, and there's a lot of teams that

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Speaker 1: are their rosters are a little bit talent poor, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Brown's roster, Jets roster. I guess my point is

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Speaker 1: maybe some guys that you kind of identified as maybe

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Speaker 1: some bottom fishing guys are probably gonna get paid. So

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take you out of that market. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Dollary cap rose, I think, yeah, ten

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Speaker 1: million this year exactly. So that's that's the thing I

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Speaker 1: worry about. There's a lot of teams that have I'm

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Speaker 1: let me count, there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

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Speaker 1: ten teams that have over forty million dollars in cap space. Well,

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Speaker 1: David Irving wins the poll tay forty eight percent. He's

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Speaker 1: restricted free agents, so you gotta think if you know,

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Speaker 1: they can bring him back pretty easily if they want to,

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Speaker 1: which I would imagine they would put the first their

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Speaker 1: second round tender on him, probably the second. Yeah, Okay, Hitchens,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what his market value might be. They'd

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Speaker 1: like to bring him back. Jonathan Cooper left guard one

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Speaker 1: way or another. You gotta find a fifth starter. Steven

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Speaker 1: Jones talked about that in Indianapolis last week. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta think they'd like to get something done with

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Speaker 1: LP two. Yeah, they're all important. Ranked ranked? Did you rank?

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Speaker 1: Did the fans ranked them? There? They thought Irving first?

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Speaker 1: They didn't think Hitchens was first? Then right now, then Hitchens,

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Speaker 1: then Cooper, then LP. See. The one guy that I

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Speaker 1: think that they might not give it long term contract

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Speaker 1: too is David Irving. Yeah, which you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know everybody out there is up in arms like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, David Irving. You gotta he if they

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Speaker 1: if they put the second round tender on him. I

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Speaker 1: just again don't see them doing a long term deal. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm making them wrong. Out the play it out

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Speaker 1: and see what happens. Yeah, I just don't I mean,

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Speaker 1: if they really cared a lot about David Irving, I

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Speaker 1: think they would put a first round tender on him.

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Speaker 1: I just think fans see the potential when he's been

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Speaker 1: on the field. He had sure rush in late in

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Speaker 1: the year. He had the eight games last year, right mentioned, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he would have been probably he could have caught Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and Sacks. Maybe, yeah, played a whole year. No, he

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Speaker 1: that's on his own doing, though, see yea his own doing.

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Speaker 1: If the suspension costs him a month and he said,

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Speaker 1: he's like, I'm I'm I'm ticked off at myself. But

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Speaker 1: see that's the thing too about him though. And I

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Speaker 1: think Rod Marinell if you ask coach about him that

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Speaker 1: he would say, I need him to be more consistent.

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Speaker 1: I think you know the consistency thing, you know, I

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Speaker 1: just I respect the player and what and how you

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Speaker 1: watch him play, because he is he's a very disruptive guy.

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Speaker 1: But you know, again, if you're only going to play

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Speaker 1: half the season and you know something's gonna happen, that's

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Speaker 1: that's a kind of a kind of a tough thing.

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Speaker 1: If he could play all sixteen games, he can make

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Speaker 1: himself a lot of money. There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: But you look at all those positions that we just

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Speaker 1: mentioned and say, if not free agency, you could deep

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Speaker 1: enough in the draft, like guard and yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: the guard. The guard, you're gonna have to do. The

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Speaker 1: guard win early, and you're probably gonna have to. You

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Speaker 1: could probably hit the lineback on day two, but I

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Speaker 1: think guard would be have to probably go day one. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. If I don't know if

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Speaker 1: the best guard is going to be there at fifty,

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Speaker 1: I can't guarantee that, but I can guarantee a lot

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Speaker 1: of other things. I mean, I think that that there's

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of there's plenty of player. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I really do. I think that whether it's a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver or a linebacker or you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: you can probably grab one of those guys, you know

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Speaker 1: for that's about safeties another one you could probably grab

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Speaker 1: a guy too. So hopefully they'll take advantage of the

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Speaker 1: compensatory picks. I know that Jerry Jones talked about how

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Speaker 1: he's going to use those or could use those, told

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Speaker 1: me those are a godsend because it gives you some

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Speaker 1: flexile it gives you some flexibility. Yeah, you just get

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Speaker 1: done what you need to get done with if you

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Speaker 1: just sit there. You used to not be able to

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Speaker 1: trade those, now you can't. That's that's important. That's awesome. Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry we have to end today's show short,

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Speaker 1: but you should be happy because in just two minutes

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Speaker 1: they will have the Your Graph show going, which is

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Speaker 1: always awesome. We're so happy that you guys could join us,

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Speaker 1: and join us again next Tuesday for a full Talking

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