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Speaker 1: and welcome to the No Dongks podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, December ninth, twenty twenty four. I'm Jay Skeys

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Speaker 1: here in the Classic Factory and alongside me as always

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Speaker 1: task Mellots.

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Speaker 2: Podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, a top Sha

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Speaker 1: We are Hello to everybody joining us live on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: and reviews. We will be doing our NBA Weekend Winners

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Speaker 1: and Losers here on a Monday. Lots to talk about

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Speaker 1: some monster performances. But we also had another Weggie. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody letting us know late last night

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Speaker 1: that we had Weggie number twelve. I swear it happened

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Speaker 1: for this one on the three point attempt. Wow, nice, nice,

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Speaker 1: weggietracker dot Com has it and man the Blazers broadcast

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Speaker 1: They talked about weggies for like a minute and a half.

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Speaker 2: No broadcast team likes weggies more than they do. They

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Speaker 2: liked so much with that. Yeah, we've had twelve wedgies.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if Tom Haristrow told everyone that half the

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Speaker 1: rounds of this. Trey getta started. Who's a big winner,

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Speaker 1: big winner of the weekend? NICOLEA Jokic kind of Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Fifty six points Saturday against the Wizard, sixteen rebounds and

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Speaker 3: That's funny. Number Two, taxing workload for Nicola Jokics. No

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Speaker 3: You see it in both of these games. Basically everybody's

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Speaker 2: It is so weird seeing Yokic having to shoot eleven

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Speaker 2: I'm going with the Golden State Warriors. This can be

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Speaker 2: he he transformed that Jagged Edge line to Steph ain't

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Speaker 2: they're looking at each other like, we won this thing

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Speaker 2: two years ago, we still got Stephen Dre. We've got

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Speaker 2: They started shrieking, and the Warriors obviously were much better

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Speaker 2: of their first thirty nine points were off turnovers. The

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Speaker 2: The Warriors challenged the foul, saying he didn't pokem in

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Speaker 2: go away. They just kept hitting threes. This team does

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Speaker 2: this two game series was awesome. They kept shooting threes.

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Speaker 2: Budd He healed three threes in the third quarter, went

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Speaker 2: The Curry and Kaminga pick and roll worked beautifully cominga.

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Speaker 2: that was pretty funny and yeah, just wiped out Slivery

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up with that floor?

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Speaker 3: Your grips up?

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Speaker 2: Good call? And then healed hit another three late in

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Speaker 2: I've never seen that before. It wasn't exactly I wasn't

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Speaker 2: this series was just great. That's why this both these

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Speaker 2: gonna be ridiculously good but fun to see both teams.

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Speaker 2: I think the Timberwolves are now top five defense again.

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Speaker 2: It's actually after being first last year, they actually give

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Speaker 1: Defenses are better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's not offenses aren'tetting, but defenses are getting better.

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Speaker 2: But fun, just a really fun thing. As the Warriors

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sunday game was amazing because the Warriors ended

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Speaker 3: It was definitely fun to watch. I thought the Wolves

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Speaker 3: Perfect Draymond Green game. You get the poke Rudy Gobert

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Speaker 3: What else could you ask for him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I probably slept well last night.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe them about Kuminga. The

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Speaker 3: players can actually be traded again. They obviously didn't sign

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Speaker 3: to me, the best Cominga lineups are going to be

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Speaker 3: there the start of the next TARF. That was true,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's keep it going here. NBA Weekend winner

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Speaker 1: to Chris Paul I thought this was a good note

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul. CP three notched assist number twelve thousand and

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Speaker 1: So the game was though stop briefly to commemorate this

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Speaker 1: it's it is wild and look wehm. Benyama came back

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Speaker 1: again who splashed a three, who put them up. That

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Speaker 1: He's gonna finish here probably second, and guys freaking damn

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Speaker 1: jump in the all time rank? Right now, he's thirty

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Speaker 1: Like Giannis is basically ten ahead of him, right and

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I know Jannisa has two MVPs and whatever, they're different players.

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Speaker 1: how much higher it puts them when it's all said

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Speaker 3: He is h No, I don't believe, so that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Don't believe.

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Speaker 3: Stockson also never won a ring. Yeah, first and steals

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Speaker 3: as well, and he will go down in history as

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Speaker 3: John Stockton two point zero. They are identical players, fundamental

431
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Speaker 3: good shooters, not looking to score out there, playing on

432
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Speaker 3: both ends, long careers, doing it the exact same as

433
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Speaker 3: when they started as when they ended. The reason people

434
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Speaker 3: don't care as much is that the Spurs are fighting

435
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Speaker 3: for a playing game and the war, or the Lakers

436
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,880
Speaker 3: are theoretically trying to win a championship. But yeah, Chris Paul,

437
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 3: great stuff. There's still a handful of teams he hasn't

438
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Speaker 3: played for, so maybe he don't stick around another seasons.

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Speaker 1: That's right, I know that even that framed keepsake. Like

440
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Speaker 1: I said, call me my surprise when you're like, oh, yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: he has played for a lot of teams because they

442
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Speaker 1: had a photo of him on each team here, But

443
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Speaker 1: every spot he's played, he's like has like a four

444
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Speaker 1: to one assistant turnover ratio and has been good. I

445
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Speaker 1: mean he generally plays for winners, that's for sure.

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, still playing good. There's a lot of names on

447
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Speaker 2: that ball that he's assisted. Does John Stockton's ball? Just

448
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Speaker 2: say Carl, I just car That's all it. But yeah,

449
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Speaker 2: it was a weird game because Wemby left the game

450
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Speaker 2: after getting hit in the testicles twice in the first

451
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Speaker 2: three minutes, and because he had missed the previous two

452
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Speaker 2: games and he kind of grabbed his back which held

453
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Speaker 2: him out those two games. There was some worry. He

454
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Speaker 2: left the game, and he came back and received the

455
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Speaker 2: ball from Chris Paul and hit that shot, and yeah,

456
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: san Antonio celebrated and everybody shook his hand. Wemby was

457
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Speaker 2: on the bench besides Chris Paul and gave a good handshake.

458
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Speaker 1: Did you see the locker room video from Chris Paul.

459
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Speaker 1: I'm not very emotional. He was choked up.

460
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, after the game, all this stuff, he was like

462
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Speaker 1: he did a little speech and he's you know, the

463
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Speaker 1: whole speech was like I hope you guys get to

464
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Speaker 1: play nineteen years or twenty years or something like that.

465
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Speaker 1: And then they like doused him in water. They did

466
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Speaker 1: the water bottles. I was like, Okay, that's good, that's fun.

467
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Everybody's around doing the water going everywhere. But then they

468
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: came in with like the bucket of water and he

469
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Speaker 1: soaked buddy. And my first thought immediately goes to, like,

470
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Speaker 1: the poor suckers, they got to clean all this up.

471
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Speaker 1: It's like in their own locker room, you know. You

472
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Speaker 1: know some guys just standing in the corner. You have

473
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Speaker 1: a song. He's got a vacuum in. Get the wet

474
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Speaker 1: vack up. Yeah, it's carpeted, you know, not plush by

475
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Speaker 1: any mean, somebody's got clean it. That's where my thought

476
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Speaker 1: immediately went to, Did.

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Speaker 3: I say who his most assisted guy was? To me,

478
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Speaker 3: it's got to be between Blake and David West probably

479
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Speaker 3: is in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right right, right, different assists. I would assume Blake,

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Speaker 1: how many years did he play for the clips?

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Speaker 3: It was a while six or so long time. Yeah.

483
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Speaker 2: They showed a little montage of the assist. The first

484
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Speaker 2: assist it was to David West, right, was it warranted?

485
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Speaker 2: I don't know it was passing to the Post's that's

486
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Speaker 2: an assist. These days, we'll get to ty Tyres Maxie

487
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Speaker 2: assists just to pass into the post. That's I don't know, yeah, who,

488
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Speaker 2: I wonder who it could be. Andrew Jordan doesn't make it, Nah,

489
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Speaker 2: probably not.

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Speaker 1: It's probably a lot, but top five. Yeah, yeah, all right,

491
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Speaker 1: let's keep it going. Another round of winners from the weekend.

492
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Speaker 1: Who you got TK A.

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Speaker 3: Couple of nice wins for the Miami Heat over the weekend.

494
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Speaker 3: They beat the Suns on Saturday and gave the Cleveland

495
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Speaker 3: Cavaliers their fourth loss of the season on Sunday. They

496
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Speaker 3: also beat the Lakers last week we talked about it.

497
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Speaker 3: They completely smacked them first three game win streak of

498
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Speaker 3: the season for the Miami Heat and to me, the

499
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Speaker 3: best two way play that we've seen all season from

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Speaker 3: the Heat. All three of these opponents, the Lakers, Sons,

501
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Speaker 3: and Calves scored under one hundred and fifteen points, the

502
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Speaker 3: Heat twelve and three. When that happens, also, Miami scored

503
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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty or more in all of these games.

504
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Speaker 3: They're six and two when that happens. You put him together,

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Speaker 3: that's a three game win streak. Baby. On Saturday against

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Speaker 3: the Suns, it was Bam had twenty five, twelve and

507
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Speaker 3: eight assists. Jimmy Butler had twenty four, seven and four assists,

508
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Speaker 3: all five of their starters wearing double digits, plus Kevin

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Speaker 3: Love Sunday much the same thirty four for Tyler. Hero

510
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Speaker 3: added six rebounds, seven assists, had a nineteen point third

511
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Speaker 3: quarter Duncan Robinson twenty three points, four freeze and a

512
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Speaker 3: dunk in this one second of the season. I was

513
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Speaker 3: shocked to see that. How many think he had last year?

514
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Speaker 2: Zero?

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Speaker 1: I mean three three dunk's more than I thought I thought.

516
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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be goose eggs all around.

517
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Speaker 1: I mean, how tall is he? He is? Like six eight? Yeah,

518
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Speaker 1: like if he's he's not a small guy.

519
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Speaker 3: Ye, but dunk it all that No, No, all that

520
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Speaker 3: much I thought. Jimmy Butler was also pretty sweet in

521
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Speaker 3: this one. Despite not huge numbers. He was getting into

522
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Speaker 3: the lane NonStop in the fourth quarter. Six in double

523
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Speaker 3: digits for the Heat in this one as well. Thirty

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Speaker 3: assists against the Suns, twenty seven against Cleveland, and I

525
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Speaker 3: think it's a hilarious forty two In that Lakers game

526
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Speaker 3: where they scored all those points, hit all those threes.

527
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Speaker 3: That is Miami at its best. The ball is moving,

528
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Speaker 3: six or seven guys are able to get into double digits.

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Speaker 3: I forget what SCHAMPENNI is the one that's in Miami

530
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Speaker 3: right now. I think it's justin right, Yes, Julian is

531
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Speaker 3: the Spurs Champenny, Yes, yes, yes, And it was like

532
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: back door cut after back door cut after back door cut.

533
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Speaker 3: The system was working. Miami as an up and down team.

534
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Speaker 3: We've talked about BAM's underwhelming start of the season. He

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Speaker 3: was pretty solid ye this weekend. Same with Jimmy Butler.

536
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Speaker 3: Like they play good enough defense that if they have

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Speaker 3: hot shooting nights, they're going to be able to win

538
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Speaker 3: some of these games. I think they were over forty

539
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Speaker 3: percent from three and both of their wins over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: They're still a playoff team. I don't have a lot

541
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Speaker 3: of hope for the Heat, and I think they probably

542
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Speaker 3: still need to add to the team if they want

543
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Speaker 3: to make any noise in the playoffs. But this was

544
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Speaker 3: a good weekend to kind of get back on track.

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Speaker 1: I thought, Yeah, I think they have a really solid

546
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Speaker 1: record with those those particular starting five, right You're talking man,

547
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Speaker 1: you're talking Duncan, Robinson, high Smith, Hero and Butler. Is

548
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Speaker 1: that five? I want to say that that lineup is

549
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Speaker 1: like has a seven to two record or something like

550
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Speaker 1: that overall, So that's good and those are quality wins.

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Speaker 1: Now we should point out the Cavs game. Mobily goes

552
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Speaker 1: down what like ten minutes into the game. Is that

553
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Speaker 1: the game he had to tweak the ankle. That's a

554
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Speaker 1: tough loss for them, and hopefully it's nothing too serious.

555
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: But that helped out the Heat. But great, great weekend

556
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Speaker 1: from them. They did a great job on Donovan Mitchell

557
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Speaker 1: to slow him down. He had he had a bad

558
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Speaker 1: game in that game to slow them down. And you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Champagne. There's guys on the Heat that I don't

560
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Speaker 1: recognize at first. Drew Smith banging home triples in that game,

561
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Speaker 1: three triples, and he helps out that bench. It's a

562
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Speaker 1: very interesting rotation that Eric Spolser seems to be flowing

563
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: on a little bit more as Rosier comes off the

564
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Speaker 1: bench now and is decent.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the Rider game, I lied about Champenny though

566
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Speaker 3: he's a wizard. I was getting mixed up the heat.

567
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Speaker 3: We're wearing red jerseys last night Champagne was back cutting

568
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Speaker 3: the nuggets the entire time, but it was Drew Smith

569
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Speaker 3: who was hooping. Drew Smith was hooping. He also drove baseline,

570
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Speaker 3: jumped and threw a pass over the rim into the corner.

571
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Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen that skip past to

572
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Speaker 3: the corner usually like if anything that's gonna hit the

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Speaker 3: bottom of the net, yeah whoop. And they jumped through

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Speaker 3: it over the top a lob to Duncan and knocked

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Speaker 3: it down. Sorry to the Champenni family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, But it's like, weird has this season's been

577
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Speaker 1: from Miami and how they struggled out of the gate,

578
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Speaker 1: even though Hero has been phenomenal and probably will be

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Speaker 1: an all start. It's a they they're flirting with like

580
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Speaker 1: top ten offensive I think they're into the top ten offensively,

581
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Speaker 1: and then they're right there defensively, and like, obviously that's

582
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Speaker 1: a good sign of a solid team. So and maybe

583
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Speaker 1: they've unlocked something here and you know, the zombie heat

584
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: are back in our lives once again. It's very possible.

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Speaker 1: But I do sort of agree with you. It's like

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Speaker 1: they have another miraculous run in them from like way

587
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Speaker 1: down in the standings, not I don't think so, not

588
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Speaker 1: with that elite talent at the top of the Eastern Conference.

589
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Speaker 1: But maybe they're not. They're not one of these teams

590
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Speaker 1: that's afraid of the Celtics before. I guess, maybe rid

591
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: of the Calves. But it feels like there's a piece

592
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: to be acquired here to maybe take them the next level.

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00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: But good weekend from the Miami Heat. Tassy teased it

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I guess tyreevese Maxi's involved in your

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Speaker 1: winner of the weekend here.

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Speaker 2: You are, right. The Philadelphia seventy six ers s sort

597
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: of like the Miami Heat, have been disappointing. There's been disappointing,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying to make a segue here. They're

599
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: different in terms of how disappointing they are. But going

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Speaker 2: into Friday they had a two game doubleheader. The second

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00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: game there with Orlando, things were still a bummer for

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Speaker 2: the seventy six or Embiid was going to be out

603
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: again injury management. I mean, what does that even mean?

604
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: When will he be back? And the last game was

605
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: such a disappointing game. We talked about it last week,

606
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: how the free throws were happening, should have been happening.

607
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: Should have been more of them, and they lost to

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Speaker 2: Orlando in the end. They didn't have Paul George in

609
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: that one. But Friday, Paul George came back and he

610
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: was decent against the Magic nine big assists. And when

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Speaker 2: you squint and you see if you think of EMBD

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Speaker 2: Tyre's Maxie and him on the floor together and Paul George,

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Speaker 2: which doesn't have all the eyes on him, he can

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Speaker 2: be passing. That could be what those three you guys

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00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: do together. He had twenty one leading score. But it's

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Speaker 2: a weird one because seventy six ers couldn't even shoot

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Speaker 2: in this game sixty five percent for him the free

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Speaker 2: throw line, they made six fewer threes than Orlando. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know they're both bad three pointing shooting teams. But

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Speaker 2: some way, somehow, even though Maxi was one of seven

621
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Speaker 2: from three to two of twenty one in his last

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00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: three games to that point, they still win. They still

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Speaker 2: beat Orlando on Friday because of kJ Martin. I thought

624
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Speaker 2: was huge, Johnny on the spot type of guy, the

625
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: dunker spot. He's all over the place. He's just a

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Speaker 2: helpful guy, a glue guy. I mean, he made eight

627
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: shots in the paint by the hoop second le Nicre

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00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: with twenty points, and I wonder if Win Embiid comes back,

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Speaker 2: if he can be that guy in the dunkin spot,

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Speaker 2: because there's going to be some opening there. Anyway, they

631
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Speaker 2: had fifty six points in the paint and that Friday

632
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: game against the Orlando Magic, Andre Drummond offensive boards all

633
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: over the place. They played a good defensive game against Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Then Sunday against the Bulls, Joe Mead's baby, all of

635
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: a sudden he plays. He looked like he hadn't played

636
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: much at first. I mean he missed his first seven shots,

637
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: but he played a lot for Joel Embiid. He missed

638
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: his first seven, then he hit thirteen of his next

639
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: twenty one buckets and thirty one points on twenty eight shots.

640
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: That's a good sign for the Sixers in that No,

641
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: it's not efficient, but it's Joel Embiid shooting a lot.

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00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: That guy that we signed to be a max player,

643
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: that was a former MVP, and he had a huge

644
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: block on Kobe White. I thought on the fourth quarter

645
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: Kobe White had him at the perimeter, went by him,

646
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: but Embiid recovered to smack it off the backboard. So

647
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: thirty one and twelve, two blocks, six turnovers. Not a

648
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: great game in that department, but Tyre's max. He had

649
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: fourteen assists in this game, and ten of them were

650
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: to Joel Embiid. That's a good number because they played

651
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: that pick and roll that we saw last year, pick

652
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: and pop where Embiid would hang out in mid range,

653
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: hit shots. Mistaken Lee Bank one in from mid range.

654
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: He pointed at it like he kind of called it,

655
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: but there's no way he'd meant that he did that

656
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: on purpose. But he I had a great game. He

657
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: finally hit three threes, as I said, he was bad

658
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: the three previous game and he's only three of twelve

659
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: in this one. But that's an improvement. Twenty five points,

660
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: fourteen assists, eleven boards. Paul George had a qui game.

661
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: That's perfect. That's fine. It's a weird one because the

662
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: seventy six ers hit ten fewer threes than the Bulls.

663
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Philodelphia only hit nine. They had ten offensive boards, but

664
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 2: they only allowed two on the other end. They're boarding

665
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: really hard and their rotation starting to look right. Gershawan

666
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: Yebucele and Kelly Oubre starting with the big three. Then

667
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: Jerry McCain, kJ Martin, Andre Drummond, Caleb Martin and Lowry

668
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: got minutes off the bench at Gordon Reggie Jackson. You

669
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: don't have to play. So that's you know, ten guys

670
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: is the best part of the seventy six er season

671
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: right now. They've won four or five that's right. There

672
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: go yeah, ten nine to eight seventy six ers, there

673
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: you go. I mean, it's something. It feels weird saying

674
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: this is a winner of the weekend because where are

675
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: they in the standings? One not all they did, but

676
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: they're moving.

677
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: Up, they are moving off. I mean, this is a

678
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: great timing. Definitely last week, late last week, I said

679
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: the sixer seasons already over and it's a wrap, so

680
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: shutting me up a little bit. Have to win these games.

681
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: So they got a game against the Pacers on Friday, again,

682
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: weird week. They don't play all week basically, and then

683
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: they have a home and away against the Hornets. You know,

684
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: it should be winnable games, so you know, you could

685
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: get you in theory, could get up to ten wins there.

686
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: Who knows. If he beats playing, you would hope him

687
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: be plays After a week off here after playing good

688
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: minutes in this game. But you never know what that

689
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: guy quality solid wins. Maxi with the triple double right

690
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: first ever?

691
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: Yes, in his career.

692
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's sort of shocking, Yeah, a little bit.

693
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: Probably not a big rebounder, I guess not enough.

694
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: There's enough three pointers going up nowadays that like four

695
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: of those are going to faulty around the free throw

696
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: line as a guard. But yeah, congrats to Maxi. Onis

697
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: first tripped up six ors. Any thoughts on them, Well.

698
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: They shot twenty seven percent from three, only made seven

699
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: threes in the win against Orlando, only made nine threes

700
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: twenty five percent against the Bulls. If that game was

701
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: another five minutes, the balls were gonna win. The Sixers

702
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: were trying to throw it away. But I think Chicago

703
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: went one for seven from our one for six from

704
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: three in the last three and a half minutes of

705
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: this game. They were getting good looks and they just

706
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: could not knock them down. That's the only reason they

707
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: came back in the third quarter got super hot. But

708
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: I'm with you if this was the best Embid game

709
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: so far this season, and it was kind of one

710
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: hot quarter where he had nineteen but he was lighting

711
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: up the Bulls. He looked awesome. He's got back to

712
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: back thirty point games. They're like three and a half

713
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: weeks apart, but still still yeah, back when he plays,

714
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: when he plays, he's good.

715
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: It's true.

716
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: So now's the time to get in play against an

717
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: easy team like the Bulls, then take an entire week off.

718
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: That's honestly smart basketball.

719
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

720
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vouch stealing the ball from him a couple of times.

721
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: So that's pretty fun that that little rivalry between the

722
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: two of them.

723
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: Sixers legend.

724
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Few other NBA weekend winners. Luka Doncic thirty points,

725
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: thirteen boards, eleven assists for his second second straight triple

726
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: double as the MAVs extended their win streak to seven games.

727
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: This happened on Saturday against the Raptors. Troo made it

728
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: close excuse me one twenty five eighteen though Dallas got

729
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: to win. But I think Luca Guys has officially pulled

730
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: up a seat to the MVP table. I think he's

731
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: doing it cool, like he's a c slater at base side.

732
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: He's turned the chair around and pulled up to Ceo

733
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: Kich to see Jannis and Sga and Tatum. If those

734
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: are the four guys in the booth, like I said,

735
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: Lucas pulled up the chair. What's up, guys? What are

736
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: we eating here? Who's ordering? It was Luca's seventy ninth

737
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: career triple double that moved him past Will Chamberlain and

738
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: James Harden on the NBA's all time list, so he's

739
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: in sole possession of seventh place. I do love this.

740
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: Next on the list career triple doubles, his coach Jason Kidd,

741
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: and Jason Kidd said, I guess I've got to sit

742
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: him now. He jokingly said that out to the game,

743
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: so he can stay in in sixth spot. I guess.

744
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: But Luca, man, he was putting on a show for

745
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: that Toronto crowd. That's his only visit there, you know,

746
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: north of the border. Banking home a thirty five foot

747
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: three to end the second quarter. Head into the half,

748
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: He's threw a no look like over the head assist

749
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: to Kyrie, getting the ooze and ohs from the crowd.

750
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just sort of toying with them. Monster Game,

751
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: Monster Game.

752
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was showing that to my kids because we

753
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: try no looks during games we play, little board games

754
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: we play and then they say that's the thing you do.

755
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: That's a no looker, although you know he looks. He

756
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: looks at the three point line and then he turns

757
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: around and says, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do that whatever.

758
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: He notices the guy's there, and then he's like, watch,

759
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: how cool this is? Gonna look look away? Amen. Thompson

760
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: a little winner of the weekend Love. He looked awesome

761
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: in his second start of the season. No Fred van

762
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Vliet for the Rockets and they were on a bit

763
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: of a skid here, but they took care of business

764
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: on Sunday AM and Thompson again got the start, and

765
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: I thought, you just like I love watching this guy

766
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: twenty two points nine to fourteen shooting. He hit a

767
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: three again. I think that's back to back games now

768
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: where you hot knocked down a three, grabbed eight boards,

769
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: four assists. Yeah, stee. He had a block, a lot

770
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: of energy and they got the victory. But they just

771
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: have this We've talked about them all season long. They

772
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: just have so many guys that even if they're missing

773
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: someone like Fred van Bliet, I don't think targt and

774
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: played in that game as well. You know, Jalen Green

775
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: had a good game and you can slot in on

776
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: Men Thompson no problem.

777
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: Yep, pretty much the opposite for the Clippers. Yeah yeah,

778
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: Jordan Miller and Bones Highland were cooking crazy. I was like, wow,

779
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: this is a banged up team.

780
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: That's a great point. Yeah, no hard and of course

781
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: for the Clips in that one. And then Chris Middleton,

782
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: he's back.

783
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: He's back, baby.

784
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: He made his return over the weekend. He played in

785
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: two games, actually, on Friday and Sunday. This is a

786
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: guy coming back from rehabbing surgeries on both ankles in

787
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: the offseason, which is pretty wild to think about. Friday night,

788
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: he played twenty three minutes. He was on the court

789
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: in a close game against the Celtics, so one of

790
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league. He finished two for

791
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: eleven from the field, like looked rusty, got his eleven points,

792
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: had some assists though, And then on Sunday he played

793
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: twenty minutes almost exactly because even Duck Rivers said after

794
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: that Friday night games, I think we were supposed to

795
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: stick to the twenty minute mark, but we got him

796
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: up to twenty three. But Middleton scored eleven. Again shot

797
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: a little bit better three of eight, so some small

798
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: improvements there. But again he had eleven assists in about

799
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: forty minutes over the weekend. Now, some of these you

800
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: want to talk about, like assists that are nothing. They

801
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: were of the nothing burger variety, no doubt, like just

802
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: swing it to Yiannis, who would then, you know, take

803
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: a dribble and score. But he did have a gorgeous

804
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: transition basket to Jannis screaming down the middle, threw it

805
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: over the defense. That was nice. And he had another

806
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: one where he like and this is what I love.

807
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: He's still Chris Middleton. He's running in the form, but

808
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: like he draws attention. The guy's a bucket, so I

809
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: sort of get locked in on him. You maybe forget

810
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: about your guy. There was just too much attention. He

811
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: kicked it to Gary Trent Junior up top, no one

812
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: was by him, hit the three, So I thought that

813
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: was at least a good sign from Chris Middleton. Some

814
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: playmaking here and again just another guy you have to

815
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: worry about on Milwaukee.

816
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 3: Another guy you need to worry about.

817
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, coming off the bench both those games, he's

818
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: still getting into it. Oh but it was fun to

819
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: watch them against the Boston Celtics and they played them.

820
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: They played them well again. Yeah, that's what they do.

821
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: They've already played all three games against the Boston Celtics

822
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: this season. It's done. Oh wow, Yeah, it's weird.

823
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm not playing a fourth.

824
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: No, are you gonna give any You mentioned Evan Mobley.

825
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: That was awesome hist Yeah, six threes both career.

826
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: The bummer was the ankle injury. Yeah, the following game, yeah,

827
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: he was great. Yeah, all right, let's switch it up.

828
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to losers of the weekend. Trey get it started,

829
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: easy loser.

830
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: The Orlando Magic got some bad news because they lost

831
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: Franz Wagner to a torn right oblique muscle that happened

832
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: Friday against the seventy six ers. They said he'll be

833
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: reevaluated in four weeks. If it sounds familiar, it's because

834
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: Paulo Bancaio is currently out with a torn right oblique muscle.

835
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: It's been five weeks since he went out and they

836
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: said yesterday he just started doing ball handling drills. So

837
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: not very encouraging for the Orlando Magic to lose their

838
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: two stars to the same injury and obviously it's one

839
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: that's kind of a lingerer, right sure. I think if

840
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: you go back and look at like the last five

841
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: torn Obliques, it's these two guys, a couple of non

842
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: Magic and Cole Anthony, Like it just keeps happening in Orlando. Yeah,

843
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: very unusual.

844
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: I I literally had to triple check it wasn't like

845
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: a troll sham's account with the uh Franz Wagner names

846
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: over the weekend that he had Atornably. I'm like, Colin,

847
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: yeah right, like yeah, it never happened, Yeah, what the hell?

848
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: And he like obviously Franz was playing like an All Star,

849
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: was gonna make the All Star team, Like, you know,

850
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: that's up in the air now. But that was a bummer.

851
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm still gotta win. They gotta win.

852
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: On Sunday against the Suns, the Sons. Farrell loser of

853
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: the weekend absolutely. Cole Anthony went off against the Suns.

854
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 3: Twenty six points for him go go Bataze, massive game,

855
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: twenty one points, sixteen rebounds, nine offensive including a lefty

856
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: tip dagger that I love to see. It was the

857
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: first win that the Magic got without Franz or Polo

858
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: since April first, twenty twenty two. Wow, that's before they

859
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: drafted Polo. I think Michael Moulder was a starter for

860
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: this team. Oh the last yeah, right, that's right. Victor

861
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: Oladipo is against the Heat. Victor Oladipo had a forty

862
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: point game that might have been the last game of

863
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: his career.

864
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: Mike Molder, Yeah, no, Scully, Look.

865
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: I was confident.

866
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: I was confident the Magic would stay afloat when Paolo

867
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: Boncaro went down. I thought between Suggs and Franz Wagner,

868
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: they would be able to stay around five hundred. They

869
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: were obviously a lot better than that. But I'm not

870
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: as confident this time around. I think you're still going

871
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: to have to beat the Magic. They're still going to

872
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: play defense. You saw against the Suns. The fight is

873
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: still there. They got down by double digits multiple times

874
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: in this game, including early in the fourth quarter, and

875
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: we were able to battle back and pull off the win.

876
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: It was awesome. They forced turnovers, they offensive rebound, They're

877
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: going to win the possession battle. But they're twenty fourth

878
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: in offense for the season. They're obviously the worst offense

879
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: in the league. When Franz or Polo sits for the

880
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: most part, so I don't know how they're going to

881
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 3: generate offense consistently with neither of those guys back. Hopefully

882
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 3: Polo comes back soon in January. I don't know what

883
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: it is because it doesn't sound like it's anytime close.

884
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: But at least he's to the high end of the

885
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: four to six weeks reevaluation period.

886
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: That he was on. But they're going to scrap.

887
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: Some wins, I think, but not a lot of them.

888
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: It's tough for the Magic So hopefully they're able to

889
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: not lose too much ground in the Eastern Conference because

890
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: this is a team that were they healthy like they

891
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: were healthy last year. That was a big reason for

892
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: a lot of their success. Obviously it's gone the other

893
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: way this season. But they should be a home court

894
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: advantage team in the playoffs assuming they're healthy with the

895
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: defense they play and enough offense they get. But now

896
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: they're not going to be getting.

897
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Offense, and it sucks for the NBA Cup. I can't

898
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: believe I'm saying that, But like no Franz Wagner in

899
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: this Magic Bucks game on Tuesday night, like Orlando going

900
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: to Milwaukee, I don't love their chances to beat them

901
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: without without Paolo of course, and now Franz, although they

902
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: are scrappy, like Trey said, but wait, yeah, they played

903
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: with Bucks and then they do have a good break probably,

904
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: I mean if they don't advance in the NBA Cup,

905
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: but then they play the Thunder, the Heat, the Celtics,

906
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: the Heat, and the Knicks, so tough part of their

907
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: schedule to end the calendar year with probably out both

908
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: of those guys.

909
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 3: That sucks.

910
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they are going to be a scriby team,

911
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: there's no doubt. Apparently Jonathan Isaac called a player's only

912
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: meeting after the Franz Wagner injury. They all met up

913
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: and just kind of rallied around each other. And then

914
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: you saw you mentioned Cole Anthony, the guy doesn't play,

915
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: and then he gets inserted and he has a postgame

916
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: press conference with Goga and they're shaking hands and there's

917
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: just a lot of love in terms of the depth

918
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: of that team. At goga sixteen rebounds career high, Cole

919
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: Anthony shakes his hand for that. Well, congratulations man, good

920
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: for you, and Goga is saying we have two All stars.

921
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Not yet, but he's saying we have two All stars.

922
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: He's anointing Franz Wagner. They just really do play hard,

923
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: and so, yeah, I think Gogo will be able to

924
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 2: bang against Brook tomorrow and the quarterfinals game. But yeah,

925
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: even Jalen sug has had a monstrous performance after that

926
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: first half, Apparently he listened to Kirk Franklin. That's what

927
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: he does at halftime. He gets in the mode put

928
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: your hands together. Yeah, that's what he said. Post game,

929
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: he said, yes, that's what I did at halftime, and

930
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: he got into it. And then and then the broadcasters

931
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: started maybe giving him a new nickname because apparently Jonathan

932
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: Isaac is the Minister of Defense. Uh so Suggs could

933
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: be the Minister of Music playing or something. I don't

934
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: know what they said. I actually don't know what they said,

935
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: but I didn't know Jonathan ive Isaac was the Minister

936
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: of Defense. Forgot I was a minister.

937
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, works on two levels.

938
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: Yes, and Suggs likes Kirk Franklin's got to be something there.

939
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: I'm sure there is God's property. Apparently the magic bench

940
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: is also called the Green Goblins. Go Goo Bataz I

941
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: say that afterwards he called Cole Anthony, Caleb Houston and

942
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: Jet Howard who both also had pretty solid games of

943
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: this one called him the Green Goblins. Apparently they got

944
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: that nickname from Chuma Okake last year. The third Springers

945
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 3: wear green jerseys.

946
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: And oh okay sick.

947
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

948
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: Sure, everybody's got a nickname on this day. That's why

949
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: they're buying.

950
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the first thing coach Mosley said, Well, everybody's

951
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: getting nick name. You got a nickname, you gotta heard

952
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: it at least all right, so the Magic. Yeah, it's

953
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: an unfortunate obvious loser of the weekend with the Fronz

954
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: Wagner news. Who do you have for a loser weekend?

955
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: Eh, it's the New Orleans Pelicans. Another Pelicans injury, just

956
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: as some guys started coming back. Unfortunately, Brandon Ingram is

957
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: now out indefinitely with a high grade ankle spran. It

958
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: ain't no low grade ankle spring it's a high one

959
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: that he got against okac Zion Williamson hasn't played in

960
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: a month and remains out. And that's unfortunate because de

961
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 2: Jontay Murray, CJ mccoum, Herb Jones, and Trey Murphy, they'd

962
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 2: all come back, they'd all been sidelined for a significant time,

963
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: so it feels like we can breathe again. Then Ingram

964
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: goes out and it's been it's December here, but Williamson, Ingram,

965
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: Murray and McCollum have yet to play a single second together,

966
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: including the preseason. That's their big four, that's who they're

967
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: supposed to lead this team. They're five and frickin twenty

968
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: and last week the Pelicans became the first team to

969
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: run through fifteen starting lineups in the first twenty games

970
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: of the season since forever, since the NBA ABA merger

971
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy six. They just keep getting these new

972
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: parts and they're five and twenty again with Ingram and

973
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: Zion Willimson out for the foreseeable future. Either one of

974
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: them is not coming back very very soon. We've already

975
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: talked about it, but it seems like it's over. And

976
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: the two major questions loom trade Brandon Inger, of course,

977
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: but then the Zion one. It's the juicier one. Do

978
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: you release him in the off season because you don't

979
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: have to pay him because nothing else, no other parts

980
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: of the contract are guaranteed past this season. I know,

981
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: I know I'm reaching and that's not gonna be answered

982
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: until the off season, because Zion Willimson will come back

983
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: at some point this offseason. But what are you gonna do?

984
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: Did you see the Ingram injury too?

985
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

986
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: Super like it Like it was weird because he Dorts

987
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: all up in his shorts. He rises up, Ingram does

988
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: to take the jumper, pops Dort in the face. Dort

989
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: goes down, down and then going down as Ingram continues

990
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: to take the jumper, his legs are now like lying

991
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: under him and he lands on him and tweaked it

992
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: and he grabbed it. And you're right, would you say

993
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain at that? Yeah, it did not look good.

994
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 2: High grade high grade?

995
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, yeah, because it's different.

996
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's not like he can come back next game.

997
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. Yeah, you know, yeah, no

998
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: one knows how long he'll be up, but he'll be

999
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: out for a while.

1000
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: And I think he was like a leaving uncrutches kind

1001
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: of guy. Right, that's not good. And like you're saying,

1002
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: I thought there were reports early this weekend that the

1003
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: Pelicans were interested in bringing back Brandon Ingram on a

1004
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: smaller deal. But now it's like we're going to trade

1005
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: an injured guy when he was trying to up his

1006
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: trade value. He wants to play for a winning team allegedly,

1007
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: just honestly a disaster for New Orleans and just a

1008
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: disaster season. Let's see if de Jonte Murray can do

1009
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: anything to start this season. He's shooting thirty three percent

1010
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: from the field, hasn't really had a big moment. He

1011
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 3: was six for twenty in their last game, so I

1012
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: haven't been impressed with him yet. But also he's been

1013
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: playing with a mash unit out there.

1014
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have one more big NBA weekend loser. And look,

1015
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: we've been clowning on it all season long, but it

1016
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: was a really bad weekend for the NBA's Dunk Score

1017
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: and I need to explain why. First off, what is

1018
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: dunk score? If you're new to the show, we do

1019
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: talk about it a lot here. We talk about it

1020
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: more than anyone ironic for a show called No Dunks.

1021
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: But NBA Dunk Score breaks down every dunk using data

1022
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: driven metrics, resulting in like this objective score based on

1023
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: technical excellence and athleticism and difficulty and it's got no bias.

1024
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: But the problem is it sucks, and it really sucked

1025
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: this weekend, because on Friday night, I'm going to show

1026
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: you the highest registered dunk score first and then we'll

1027
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: show you the better dunk that was somehow lower. So

1028
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: kJ Martin, you said there on Friday night for the

1029
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: Sixers hit a tip dunk that he's going to follow

1030
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: up the miss here, and look, it's fine, but it's

1031
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: pretty damn pedestrian that scored on eighty three on the

1032
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: dunk score. Okay, out twenty. Of course, same night, though,

1033
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: Shaden Sharp of the Blazers reached for the stars on

1034
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: this alley oop soared as he sort of looked down

1035
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: at the rim off the Anthony Simon's pass, and this

1036
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: is converting of the oop here, and we're showing everybody

1037
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: on YouTube, so podcast listeners come on. Over scored a

1038
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: seventy five point three. Now, okay, a part of one

1039
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: of the requirements is defense. Yes, now Sharps gets a

1040
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: zero because there's no defense there. But like, if you

1041
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: showed those two dunks to anyone, a hardcore fan, a

1042
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: casual fan, someone that's never watched basketball, he said, which

1043
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: one's the cooler dunk? I'm gonna say ninety nine out

1044
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: of one hundred are gonna say, the sharp one look

1045
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: cooler than the kJ Martin tip dunk.

1046
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: You think Kenyan Martin is the one guy picking kJ Martin?

1047
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: Maybe?

1048
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be right because I saw nine million

1049
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: screenshots of the Shaden shomp dunk over the internet.

1050
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: How many did you see of the kJ? Yes?

1051
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: And there's both no defense?

1052
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: What k he got a higher defensive score because there

1053
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: was guys around. Yeah, but again that's but that It

1054
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 1: does make sense oddly in this weird metric because it's

1055
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: all based on the cameras and the overlay of where

1056
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: the players are, so it's picking up. Well, there are

1057
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: players there, right, So it's so.

1058
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: Stupid they didn't play any defense. I know, get some judges,

1059
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: get some judges in this.

1060
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, so then.

1061
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: You guys should judge. You guys loved this.

1062
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: It got worse has on Saturday. It got worse somehow

1063
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: because this was the dunk of the night according to

1064
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: Dunk Score. Celtics big man with the two hand slam,

1065
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: Oh all right against the Grizzlies. Nice, yeah, yeah, lice,

1066
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: little chin up maybe got bonus points. Kid loves it.

1067
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Speaker 1: This kid's ecstatic with that. That got an eighty three

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Speaker 1: excuse me, that got an eighty six point four. Okay,

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00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: that was that was.

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Speaker 2: That Martin.

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00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: Say, freaking game. This got second on the night, the

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00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: Ja Morant double clutch reverse jam. I mean, let's be honest,

1073
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: around poor Zingis He's there and just incredible. One of

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00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: the best dunks of the season. Probably it got a

1075
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: seventy nine point seven. Now where did it fall? Flat?

1076
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: Little power kit is much more powerful than Jahn Morant's

1077
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: incredible double clutch reverse coming baseline around a couple of Celtics.

1078
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: This is so broken, it's insane. But this was a

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00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: perfect weekend to illustrate it, and it came at the

1080
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: perfect time that Trey our guy, did a little short video.

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00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: We have it up on YouTube of podcast listeners, go

1082
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: check this out. We posted over the weekend. It's called

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00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: dunk Score is Broken, and it's exactly what we're talking

1084
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: about here. Trey took us through sort of the entire

1085
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: season so far of like, what the hell's going on

1086
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: with this? It will make sense, it doesn't make sense,

1087
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: so recommend you check it out.

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00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: Technology is broken because there needs to be judges rather

1089
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: than technology saying that that Ja Morant was too soft.

1090
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean forget about what the what technology is telling you.

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00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: You know, it can get broken, like the iOS, it's

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00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: broken at times. Technology can be deceiving. While I was

1093
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: showing that Jamarant highlight to my girls, to my kids,

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00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: people were watching it, just as you mentioned that nobody's

1095
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: watching the freaking kJ Martin one. What people are looking

1096
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: at shad and sharp, looking down at the rim beat

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Speaker 2: technology with people's perceptions.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe you just unlock something here, Taks. Maybe we

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00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: need to include social media engagement into the dunk.

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Speaker 3: Score engagement score.

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00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that exactly, Maybe that bumps up obviously a sharp

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00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: that bumps up a Jamarant double clutch reverse could be

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00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: something there. Yeah, we could tweet this a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I do love this comment from Andrew on Blue

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00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: Sky because I've been sharing these dunks and always or

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00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: more times than not, it's not the best dunk of

1107
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: the night that gets highest dunk score. Andrew wrote to me, quote,

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00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: the dunk score only exists to be discussed or go.

1109
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: It must always be wrong else there is no discussion.

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00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: The NBA knows what it's doing.

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00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

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00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa damn. We aren't talking about it

1113
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: a lot because it's wrong so maybe Andrew's onto something here.

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00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: Maybe it works for the NBA for all I know,

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00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: But Dunk Score loser of the weekend try I know you.

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00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 3: Agree by time, loser of the weekend. There's a place

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00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: for analytics and sports and this is not it. I'm

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00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: all about the eye test when it comes to dunks.

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00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: Yep, call me a boomer. Now, I'll give the Dunk Score,

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00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: you know, some credit here. I think it got it right.

1121
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: Last night Brandon Miller had a big dunk against the Pacers.

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00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: It was the highest dunk score of the night. I

1123
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: think it was in the nineties. He takes off very far,

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Speaker 1: so I think it really helped there. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: a dunk that was better. I'm in Thompson had a

1126
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: nice dunk, but I don't think it was better than Brandon.

1127
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: So maybe they got it right.

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Speaker 3: One out of three nights on the weekend, Randon Miller's

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00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: been having some night dunks. From an eye test and

1130
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Speaker 3: from a dunk.

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Speaker 1: I think Dunk Score loves Brandon Miller because he does

1132
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: take off very far on his dunks.

1133
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Speaker 3: And he's tall, so the balls getting high and the

1134
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: ball gets hut Yep, too much weight for the alley oops.

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00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 3: I'll say that's what it is. That's a large part

1136
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: of the style. Like you see thirty seven of the

1137
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: top fifty dunks, they are alley oops. So it increases

1138
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: your style quoteshit catching an alley oup. That's why Jay

1139
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: huff rinks so highlight in these. But it was fourth,

1140
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 3: but sharp had incredible height yep. And then obviously it

1141
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: was a new but still didn't score all that. You know,

1142
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 3: no defense really no defense, just needed somebody in the lane.

1143
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 3: Would it gave him boosted him like thirty points or

1144
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 3: something like that?

1145
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: How was Ben Simmons value scored? It wasn't pretty. It

1146
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: was just a jump.

1147
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: Up and we can track, we can't.

1148
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Speaker 2: Check that's her there? Well, I do we should mention

1149
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: I just take this away from Ducks just for one second.

1150
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzly is one in Boston. That was impressive. Yeah,

1151
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: I know we're going way back winners, but I gotta mention.

1152
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: Jeron Jackson Junior looked awsome in the fourth quarter. There

1153
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: fourteen points. They're playing five out, which is Boston Celtics ball,

1154
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: so it looked good. No Horford out there to guard

1155
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 2: Jerry Jackson Junior. It was a problem. They were playing

1156
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: five games in seven days. Fine, that was a problem.

1157
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: But Marcus Smart stunk in his first game back in

1158
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: Boston playing in Boston, one of eleven and they still

1159
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: somehow win with As Trey brought up last week, who

1160
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: are the guys that are going to finish games? Beside

1161
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: Morant Bain and Jerry Jackson Junior. It seems like Taylor

1162
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: Jenkins just gonna be picking and choosing. And this one

1163
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: was Jake Laavia who had a nice defensive play and

1164
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: Brandon Clark who's eight of nine in this game. So

1165
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: good stuff there.

1166
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: No, it's a good point. The Mavericks and the Grizzlies.

1167
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: Like a month ago, we're like in the tenth and

1168
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: eleventh seeds and stuff like that, and now both of

1169
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: those teams are like up in the top four in

1170
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: the Western Conference. They deserve a win in the weekend.

1171
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up up.

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00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 2: I am glad, and I'm glad the hough stuff. Mister Huff,

1173
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: Jay Huff gets some dunk scores. He's good dunking.

1174
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: Do you have you Ben Simmons?

1175
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: You want When Ben Simmons caught an alley up against

1176
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers. Yeah, forty four point two.

1177
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that's okay.

1178
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: They did good there, they did good there.

1179
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: Let me check.

1180
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 2: He's got something j Hoddles the top ten or something.

1181
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: No, it's not that high. But he's got one of

1182
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: the best ones of the year. I think the one

1183
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: where he caught the sort of revalue of the backwards

1184
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: allub yeah, reverse alle oop on a guy though that

1185
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: was long.

1186
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: He's dropping down.

1187
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the hot stuff is dropping down. He's out of

1188
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: the top fifty.

1189
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: Oh, he's out of the top fifty.

1190
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 3: Tragedy.

1191
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Damn. Okay, good dunk score. Those are our winners and

1192
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: losers of the NBA weekend. I know we missed a ton.

1193
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: Get upset. Let us know in the comments. Tweet at

1194
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: us if you want at no dunk's ink, Okay, pick him. Results.

1195
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: I'll just say quickly from Friday night we had that

1196
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: Lakers Hawks game. Man, I could have been a winner

1197
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: of the weekend.

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00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: What a game that was we were you went down

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Speaker 2: to the fortunately I did.

1200
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he caught Beauty Hawk's winning to extend their win

1201
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: streaking at that point against the Lakers in overtime, but

1202
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 1: LA covered. So that was a victory for me and Trey.

1203
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: It was the line four and a half or something

1204
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: like that. It was it lost by two in ot.

1205
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: But what's tonight's game? And there's only well, hold on,

1206
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: I know tonight's games because there's only one.

1207
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Knicks are going into Toronto, and as you said,

1208
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: there are no games in the United States of America

1209
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 2: Toronto hosting the Knicks. They're five and a half point doug,

1210
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: so they can lose by five or less if you

1211
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: want to take Toronto skeets yourself and me. We trust Toronto?

1212
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: Why why do we trust?

1213
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: We may always keep it close, man, and the Knicks

1214
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: got their sights on that NBA Cup game on Wednesday night.

1215
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: I was thinking the same.

1216
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, man, the Knick's going to be

1217
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 3: overlooking this one. Tom Thibodeaux overlooking a regular season game.

1218
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: It's no chance. It's a good point. Yeah, damn those guys.

1219
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Toronto Rappers do keep games fairly close.

1220
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: Carltony Town's may not be playing because he is the

1221
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: last game and he missed the Pistons game. And that's

1222
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: why I kind of I'm a little bit worried that

1223
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 2: the Raptors may lose by it more than five because

1224
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: they lost to the Pistons and so they've got some

1225
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: revenge for them. But I think Davian Mitchell, even though

1226
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 2: they're not starting him, we'll do a good job against

1227
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson. Some weird rotations they're starting O Chi, Grady Dick, RJ.

1228
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: Barrett besides Scottie Barnes and Yaka Peertle. Things are different

1229
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: now in Toronto. Anyway, I'm gonna be watching because it's

1230
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 2: the only game.

1231
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, nixt Raptors only game on tonight, and we are

1232
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: split on this one. For the Knicks to get the

1233
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 1: W or for these guys get the W, I should

1234
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: say they gotta win by six or more. So good

1235
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: luck to everyone. And yeah, it's gonna be odd with

1236
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: only one game on tonight, So we'll have some fun tomorrow,

1237
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: maybe hit the beach. Get your questions in your NBA

1238
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: and non NBA questions, you can email them in no

1239
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: dunks at the Athletic dot com Again, you can leam

1240
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: in the comments and if you have a suggestion, what

1241
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: do you want us to talk about tomorrow? Because I

1242
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna do fifty minutes on Nick Raptors

1243
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: unless it's a barn.

1244
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: Burner, because as possible, we cop ten Andrea Barniani moments.

1245
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: Perfect tie in.

1246
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: Andrea Barnianni just so just appeared on Open Gym talking

1247
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: to that was a nice. We made a small appearance

1248
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: little cameo in that one about international players for the

1249
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: Raptors over the years. Andrea Barniani looked great, just surprisingly,

1250
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: like I mean, it looks look more handsome than I remember.

1251
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: He's aging.

1252
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I think so, I think so. So. Yeah. Well,

1253
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that game in amorrow, maybe hit the

1254
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: beach have some more fun, but we will find out

1255
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow at ten am Eastern. Join us live here on YouTube,

1256
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: hit the like button, subscribe. I will say we usually

1257
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: do playbacks on Monday night. We're not going to do

1258
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: it for Knix Raps tonight. Let's save it for the

1259
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: Cup action. In fact, we'll do it Tuesday and Wednesday night.

1260
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna go live on playback for both of the

1261
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: early games starting around seven pm. We have Magic Bucks

1262
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, is that right? Yeah, and then we

1263
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: have Hawks Nicks on Wednesday night. So that link to

1264
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: join our playback room. It is in the stream team.

1265
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: So hopefully we'll see you out there on Tuesday and

1266
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: Wednesday night, and then later we go to Vegas. But

1267
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: we got shows all these yeah. Till then, though, Clipper Rose,

1268
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: you heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1269
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember if you join our

1271
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: playback room, it can be a secondary screen.

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00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: Too, all right. These are on T and T and

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00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: ESPN respectively. That's true. Some international people are cool, absolutely.

1274
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: Some people here in the United States may not have access,

1275
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: but we've got little VIP passes. We slip people as

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00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: they get in. You can do this. You can watch here,

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