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Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, July twenty fifth, Dear of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Jam Packed is an understatement to describe.

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Speaker 1: The show tonight.

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Speaker 2: We're going every angle and I respect, by the way,

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Speaker 2: the multitude of angles that the bombshell story that we've

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Speaker 2: all been talking about over the past week has. We're

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Speaker 2: going to hit a bunch of different angles on this tonight.

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Speaker 2: In that sense, it'll kind of be a unique show.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a jam packed show. Its jam

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Speaker 2: pactice we've had all throughout July. I can promise you

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Speaker 2: and I sit in a pretty authoritative seat to be

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Speaker 2: able to deliver that promise. So we have the Texas

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma sec angle. We've got the Texas A and M

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Speaker 2: jaded sort of angle. We've also got the inevitable conference

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Speaker 2: realignment angle. I have spoken to as many people as

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Speaker 2: I possibly can about this over the past what's it

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Speaker 2: been since we talked seventy two hours?

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Speaker 1: And so yes, we're going to dive in very deep.

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Speaker 2: It's not all we're talking about on the show tonight, though,

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Speaker 2: and we thank you so much for watching. We've got

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Speaker 2: a loaded live chat. We had our third most watched

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Speaker 2: show ever. The other night in season or out of season,

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Speaker 2: we don't say the O word, so thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: October ninth is something we're going to discuss tonight. I've

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Speaker 2: already told you how loaded Week one is. We've already

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Speaker 2: which games we love in week one. But October ninth,

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Speaker 2: I think it's week seven, week eight, something like that.

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Speaker 2: That's the Saturday. That's the one to circle. If you

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Speaker 2: take off. I'm going to tell you why during this

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Speaker 2: show tonight. Also got several quarterback questions for some big

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Speaker 2: programs names you recognize, but I think questions that maybe

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Speaker 2: you have right along with me. It's an interesting year

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Speaker 2: in college football because you think you know who the

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Speaker 1: You think you know who the favorites and every.

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Speaker 2: and there are legitimate questions on these programs. They are

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Speaker 2: So I say all that to say settle in it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a jam packed show. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I try to give thanks anytime I can, and that

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Speaker 2: means every show. Our Thursday show based solely on word

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Speaker 2: We paid zero dollars to promote it still haven't. Our

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that. It is abundantly obvious.

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Speaker 2: Based on the correspondence I've had this week in the inbox,

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Speaker 2: which is validation. I appreciate when you say that because

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the thanks, but I appreciate it because it validates.

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Speaker 2: And every time that we talk about and it's mainly

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Speaker 2: That's the goal. And a lot of your feedback without

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Speaker 2: So let's hop right in Texas and Oklahoma the very latest.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you have DMed me about this too.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're still in this, so got a fighting chance.

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Speaker 2: Hold the rope. Bob Bowlsby has told his conference to

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Speaker 2: But there's this one little caveat that keeps on hanging

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Speaker 1: And even in a cash.

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Speaker 2: It was still the predominant conference, but the Big ten

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what they tell you. And then you

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is.

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Speaker 2: There are several proposals that he has supported and been

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Speaker 2: And I'm just telling you that SEC lifestyle is a

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Speaker 1: We're gonna pump your guys just like we do everywhere else.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, no, no, we're Texas.

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Speaker 1: That's what life is like in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: So I haven't really taken a lot of part in

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Speaker 1: Here we go. No hypocrisy at all on this.

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Speaker 2: My point is, even if you feel that way, I'll

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Speaker 2: The SEC violated a gentleman's agreement pretty much.

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Speaker 1: And they looked around and said, what are our options?

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Speaker 2: And they thought the best one, and they were right,

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Speaker 2: I think that's partly right, and then the second part

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Speaker 1: This is where I get a little frustrated with Texas

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M controls the future of Texas A

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Speaker 2: It's a new day, especially if it's happening in this

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Speaker 1: Why doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: mean something, whether the lock's on it or not. My

438
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Speaker 2: point with Texas A and M is if this were

439
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Speaker 2: two decades ago, that'd be a reason to feel that way.

440
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Speaker 2: It's a whole new day. And while you may feel

441
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Speaker 2: like you're being played in the immediacy by the Texas

442
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Speaker 2: or by the SEC administration and the SEC administrative types.

443
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Speaker 2: While Texas A and M folks may be very aggravated

444
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 2: with the SEC League office right now, why don't you

445
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 2: turn that coin upside down for just a second. Realize

446
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Speaker 2: what this nine year head start has done for you.

447
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Speaker 1: I don't think you.

448
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Speaker 2: Guys think is highly of Texas A and M as

449
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Speaker 2: some of us do who have no a parent affiliation

450
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Speaker 2: with the program, because someone like me, I look at

451
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Speaker 2: Texas A and M. I see awesome tradition. I see

452
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 2: an immaculate stadium. I see equally immaculate facilities. You guys

453
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Speaker 2: can use dollar bills to smoke cigars.

454
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Speaker 1: Wrapped in if you want to. You print money, and so.

455
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 2: You have invested everywhere you need to invest to be successful.

456
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Speaker 2: You've got one of the best head coaches in America.

457
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Speaker 2: He's got one of the best coaching staffs in America.

458
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Speaker 2: And you're on equal footing in this conference, which is

459
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Speaker 2: really where all this begins and ends.

460
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Speaker 1: In the big twelve.

461
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Speaker 2: You were at a disadvantage because Texas had a disproportionate

462
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Speaker 2: advantage in the Big Twelve relative to anyone else in

463
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Speaker 2: the SEC. If Texas ends up coming in here and

464
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Speaker 2: they end up tilting things in their favor, it's only

465
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Speaker 2: because you allowed it to happen. But what's happening in

466
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Speaker 2: a lot of cases when you listen to A and M.

467
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Speaker 1: Some not all.

468
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Speaker 2: There have been a lot of very vocal A and

469
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Speaker 2: M fans that are echoing the same cinemon I am.

470
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Speaker 2: Some Texas A and M fans have looked at it

471
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Speaker 2: and say, it's going to be the Big Twelve all over.

472
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Speaker 2: If it's the Big Twelve all over, If things are

473
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Speaker 2: tilted in texas favor, it's only because you, guys, bet

474
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Speaker 2: the picture sideways, because that's not the way things operate

475
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Speaker 2: in the SEC. It's why I just said what I

476
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Speaker 2: said about Texas a little while ago. Texas does not

477
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Speaker 2: walk in here and tilt things anywhere. They're standing on

478
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Speaker 2: the same footing as everyone else, and from that point,

479
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 2: what you achieve is what you earn. That's the way

480
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 2: it works for Georgia, that's the way it works for Florida.

481
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Speaker 2: That's the way it works for Kentucky, and that's the

482
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Speaker 2: way it's worked for you, and it will not change

483
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Speaker 2: once Texas walks in the door. If they start out

484
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: recruiting you, it's because they're beating you on the recruiting trail.

485
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Speaker 2: It's not because the SEC gave them some unfair advantage.

486
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Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is, are you getting a raw deal?

487
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,239
Speaker 2: Maybe you are, But having said that, think about what

488
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: that nine year head start has given you. It's given

489
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Speaker 2: you the ability to look across the state and to say,

490
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Speaker 2: for the first time in that program's history, if we

491
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: take care of what we need to take care of,

492
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Speaker 2: Texas is irrelevant.

493
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Speaker 1: They don't have control over us. The thing's not tilted

494
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Speaker 1: in their favor anymore.

495
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Speaker 2: So that's where the frustration has been for me in

496
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Speaker 2: relation to Texas A and M.

497
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Speaker 1: All week, I look out there and I say, what.

498
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Speaker 2: Why do I think more highly of the capability of

499
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Speaker 2: Texas A and M, regardless of who's in this conference

500
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Speaker 2: than some people at Texas A and M.

501
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Speaker 1: Do. I understand the frustration.

502
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Speaker 2: I understand procedurally where the frustration comes from. I get

503
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Speaker 2: all that, But if it's going to happen it's going

504
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Speaker 2: to happen. So you know, you can take a stand

505
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Speaker 2: and you can do whatever you feel is necessary to

506
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Speaker 2: give just the old college try of pushback on this.

507
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Speaker 2: I understand all that. I would probably do the same

508
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: if I were you, But there's going to come a

509
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,479
Speaker 2: point where you got to look and you just got

510
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: to say game on. I've heard some AGGI fans say

511
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: it already. I've heard some administrative types out there say it.

512
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: I wish it was a collective chant instead of just

513
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Speaker 2: a few people isolated here, and they're saying that. So

514
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Speaker 2: that's the feel, at least from where I sit on

515
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Speaker 2: Texas A and M. Look, there's a lot of football

516
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Speaker 2: to talk about too. I know we talked a lot

517
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Speaker 2: of conference realignment tonight, and we're not done with that.

518
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Speaker 1: On the very back end of this show.

519
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Speaker 2: We've got to expand it way out and we got

520
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: to talk about conference realignment as a whole. I mean,

521
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,479
Speaker 2: the nation's going to look so different in five years

522
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Speaker 2: than what it looks like right now. So I'm gonna

523
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Speaker 2: do that at the end of the show. But before that,

524
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Speaker 2: do you know how big Saturday October ninth, twenty twenty

525
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Speaker 2: one is going to be.

526
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Speaker 1: It is the circle date.

527
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Speaker 2: Every year you start looking in your preseason magazines and

528
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Speaker 2: your helmet grid schedules and you're trying to find that Saturday. Well,

529
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Speaker 2: week one is great now, but this Saturday, October ninth,

530
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Speaker 2: that's the one. If you need to carve it out,

531
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Speaker 2: go ahead and carve it out. Block it off, let

532
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Speaker 2: your friends know, let your family know. Check the wedding calendar.

533
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Speaker 2: If someone is inexplicably being married on Saturday, October ninth,

534
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Speaker 2: even if they're on the other end of this production

535
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Speaker 2: currently emanating from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, even if they're.

536
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Speaker 1: Associated with the show.

537
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Speaker 2: Yes, you just got to distance yourself from those folks

538
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Speaker 2: for October ninth. Now you can make peace on the

539
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Speaker 2: following Monday. But why am I talking about October ninth

540
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Speaker 2: like this? Well, if we want to split the bill

541
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Speaker 2: on Saturday, October ninth, I'll let you know how big

542
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Speaker 2: this Saturday is. I'm going to show you the undercard,

543
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Speaker 2: and then I'm going to show you the main events.

544
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Speaker 2: The undercard would make in and of itself, a very

545
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Speaker 2: good Saturday. On the undercard, let's start with Georgia at Auburn,

546
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Speaker 2: which is one of the biggest games in the SEC.

547
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Speaker 2: It's already for Brian Harson, the third underdog spot on

548
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Speaker 2: the schedule. They will have gone to Penn State, they

549
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: will have gone to LSU. Well, then they got Georgia

550
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Speaker 2: coming in there. I don't even think they've taken the

551
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Speaker 2: bye week yet, so already a third really tough spot

552
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Speaker 2: for them. It's also going to be the toughest true

553
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: road test for Georgia all year. They've got Florida and

554
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: Clemson neutral, and so they go to Auburn and they're

555
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: gonna be a sizable favorite there, maybe even a double

556
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Speaker 2: digit favorite, which is rare, very rare in that rivalry.

557
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Speaker 1: But J T.

558
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Speaker 2: Daniels on the road under some hostile environment situation, let's

559
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Speaker 2: just see how he performs there. Next up Michigan at Nebraska.

560
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Speaker 2: It could be a season turner for Scott Frost. I mean,

561
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Speaker 2: that's one that I know internally up there they circle

562
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: all the time when they play that game. But that's

563
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Speaker 2: one that's located on a specific portion of the schedule

564
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Speaker 2: for Nebraska to where it could be in some fans'

565
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Speaker 2: minds do or Die time already. But for Michigan too,

566
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Speaker 2: this is the second leg of a back to back

567
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Speaker 2: road spot. They go to Wisconsin and then they go

568
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Speaker 2: to Nebraska. And so where's Jim harbother because remember they've

569
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Speaker 2: already had Washington come in in the first portion of

570
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Speaker 2: the season, and that's week two, I believe, and then

571
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Speaker 2: they've got a trip to Wisconsin, they go to Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: When you start talking about potential losable games there, well,

573
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Speaker 2: that's also the territory that we enter for Michigan. How

574
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Speaker 2: about Notre Dame at Virginia Tech. That is a third

575
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Speaker 2: straight opponent for Notre Dame that's coming off of buye

576
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Speaker 2: and I think they have six total. There are six

577
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Speaker 2: opponents in a span of seven games that are coming

578
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Speaker 2: off buys.

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Speaker 1: When they play Notre Dame, this is the third in

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Speaker 1: a row.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Notre Dame third straight opponent off of bye. Also,

582
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Speaker 2: I'm very interested for that Week one game North Carolina

583
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Speaker 2: at Virginia Tech. If North Carolina wins, that so be

584
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Speaker 2: it the chalk held. But if Virginia Tech were to

585
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Speaker 2: win that how different does this game look? This Notre

586
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: Dame at Virginia Tech game. Next up is LSU at Kentucky.

587
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Speaker 2: Now you may look at this when you say what's

588
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: the big deal with Kentucky. Well, it's not, in and

589
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: of itself a big deal. Kentucky's not going to be

590
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Speaker 2: sitting there in the top ten in all likelihood, but

591
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Speaker 2: LSU could very well be a national factor by this point.

592
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Speaker 1: Fan base certainly thinks they will be. And it's a

593
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Speaker 1: schedule dynamic game.

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Speaker 2: So LSU don't just look at this game in a vacuum,

595
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: look at the week before, look at the week after

596
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Speaker 2: they play Do the LSU Tigers the week before Auburn

597
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: and then they go to Kentucky and then they've got

598
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Speaker 2: Florida the week after. Kentucky's got this weird string of

599
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Speaker 2: games where the schedule dynamic comes into play every single

600
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Speaker 2: week we continue. Florida State plays North Carolina on this day,

601
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Speaker 2: so again we use the context of week one to

602
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Speaker 2: frame up a potential game in week six. Florida State

603
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Speaker 2: plays Notre Dame. In week one, Notre Dame's like a

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Speaker 2: ten eleven point favorite. You expect the Irish to win.

605
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Speaker 2: But just for argument's sake, if Mackenzie Milton is a

606
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Speaker 2: lot more than a lot of you expect them to be,

607
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Speaker 2: and maybe that Florida State team takes some quantum leap

608
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Speaker 2: year one to year two, or let's just say Notre

609
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: Dame's not quite up to the part you expect them

610
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Speaker 2: to be, and Florida State wins, well, they go off

611
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Speaker 2: the radar for a little while, they play some games

612
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: that aren't going to be on the national marquee, and

613
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Speaker 2: then they reappear here in week six, and this is

614
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Speaker 2: a crucial two games stretch for North Carolina. They're playing

615
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Speaker 2: Florida State and then they're playing Miami the next week.

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Speaker 1: Miami's got this.

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Speaker 2: Day off, by the way, So you got that one.

618
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Speaker 2: You got Arkansas at ole Miss. Arkansas stretch at this

619
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Speaker 2: point versus A and m neutral site at Georgia and

620
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Speaker 2: then at ole Miss. So they're on the road three

621
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Speaker 2: consecutive weeks, which should be illegal, especially in the Southeastern Conference,

622
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Speaker 2: But I digress. Ole Miss is coming off a game

623
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Speaker 2: at Alabama. So if the Rebels are surprise contenders at

624
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Speaker 2: this point, and they could be that even with a

625
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: loss to Alabama, very.

626
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: Dangerous, very tricky spot there.

627
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Speaker 2: And I put South Carolina at Tennessee only because those

628
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: are two first year coaches and these are two programs

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Speaker 2: that when you mentioned one to the other in the

630
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Speaker 2: SEC East.

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Speaker 1: They both are very quick to say.

632
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: They're not ahead of us, but both programs think it,

633
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: and so both can't be right.

634
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Speaker 1: And they're both in year one of a staff there.

635
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Speaker 2: So those are interesting in and of themselves, but that's

636
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Speaker 2: not the main event slate. That's just the undercard. Then

637
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: we shift to the main event and it.

638
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Gets really juicy.

639
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: Those games I just mentioned are on the same day

640
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: as Alabama plays Texas A and M, as Oklahoma plays Texas,

641
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: as Penn State goes to Iowa, as Utah goes to USC.

642
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: So you see some of the notables for each of

643
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: these games. If you're watching on YouTube right now. That Alabama,

644
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: Texas A and M game is the late kickoff. It

645
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: is not could be confused with late kick of course,

646
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: but it is an eight pm Eastern showdown out there

647
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 2: in College Station, and that's going to be one of

648
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: the most raucous environments you could ever imagine.

649
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Speaker 1: Both teams.

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Speaker 2: If you just go purely in terms of pointspread, both

651
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: teams will be favored to be undefeated at that point.

652
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: And it's been three years now where Jimbo Fisher's taking

653
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Speaker 2: on Nick Saban.

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Speaker 1: In three years they've been handled.

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Speaker 2: This is the year, they feel like physically they can

656
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: match up. And also you've got a lot of newness

657
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: with Alabama quarterback, offensive line, wide receiver, offensive coordinator, you know,

658
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: all that running back. Having said that, they're loaded, but

659
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: they go in there and it's a situation I'm very curious.

660
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm curious with Alabama earlier than this if

661
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: that offense is going to just go out on the

662
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: road and hum along like it's supposed to, even with

663
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: all those new parts. Because this is not e X world,

664
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: this is not fantasy world.

665
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: It's real life.

666
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Real human beings have to execute that, and it's a

667
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: lot easier said than done. Earlier that day, I would

668
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: imagine the noon kickoff, we could try and do a

669
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: two for here being out on the road Oklahoma Texas

670
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: in Dallas.

671
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: Equally as curious.

672
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the game, the headlines right themselves, but I'm

673
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: equally as curious for this one at the weeks.

674
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: Before and the week after.

675
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: So you got red River here in week six, but

676
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: Oklahoma the week before goes to Kansas State. They're trying

677
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: to avoid three consecutive losses to the Wildcats.

678
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: And then the week after they play.

679
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: TCU Texas is at TCU the week before this game,

680
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: and then they got Oklahoma State the following week, and

681
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: that will be a rested Oklahoma State. So it's a

682
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: three week stretch for both teams that will not make

683
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: or break their season. But if you're talking playoff picture,

684
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: that's very much in play here, and that's very much

685
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: a three game stretch that could define your playoff faith.

686
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 2: Penn State at Iowa, the potential record swings here alone

687
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: aresating to think about. You could, of course have two

688
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: undefeated teams and that would be a marquee Big Ten

689
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: game at that point in week six. But also if

690
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: you think about which team plays who before they play

691
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: each other, there are multiple potential losses here. Give you

692
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 2: an example. Penn State, you know they open at Wisconsin.

693
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: They've also got Auburn at home.

694
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: In week two.

695
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: They will have already played Indiana at home. Likewise, Iowa

696
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: will have played Indiana at home. They go to Iowa

697
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: State in week two, and then they go to Maryland

698
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: the week before they play this game. So there are

699
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: several losable games, but neither are insurmountable. They'll be favored

700
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: in some of those. That Penn State Iowa game is

701
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: going to be a huge, huge game in the Big Ten.

702
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: And then the game that probably decides the PAC twelve

703
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: South is the I would imagine late night game.

704
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: I would imagine these kickoff times have not been announced.

705
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: How about Utah at USC You could have the PAC

706
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: twelve South on the line. Southern Cal has a very

707
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: favorable schedule everywhere, but this game, I want to say,

708
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: Utah's off the week before, and so there will be

709
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: no schedule dynamic in favor of Southern Cal. It is

710
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: at the coliseum, but other than that game on here

711
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: and if Utah wins that, of course you got the

712
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: game and a half lead and the division. If I

713
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: had to pick the PAC twelve right now, which I'm not,

714
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: but if I picked the division winner for the South,

715
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: I would lean Utah at the moment.

716
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: That's where my mind is at the moment.

717
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: And so this day, Saturday, October ninth, I feel like

718
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: a Carnival Barker Colin. But this is the day if

719
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: you want to introduce a buddy or a girlfriend.

720
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: To college football.

721
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: If you got to get away one Saturday, if there

722
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: is a drop dead date, you just cording it off

723
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: and you go disappear in the Woods and you watch

724
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 2: it on your I don't know whatever device you want

725
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: to take out there. This is the day, Saturday, October ninth.

726
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: We will know a whole lot by the time the

727
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: dust settles on that date. Speaking of some of these

728
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that we've already named on this very show, I

729
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about several of them here just for

730
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes and ask some questions that I

731
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: think you're going to hear a lot as fall camp opens,

732
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: and we're right on the precipice of fall camp opening up,

733
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: so I wanted to go around.

734
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: Got four names here that.

735
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: I wanted to circle and ask some questions about Bryce

736
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: Young at Alabama because obviously, God we're going to talk

737
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: a lot about during the season that will be the

738
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: starter at Alabama. I would like to know simply, will

739
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: he be able to orchestrate their offense? You got so

740
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: used to last couple of years, really, you've got so

741
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: used to watching them in this machine like fashion take

742
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: people down. Last year's offense was as lethal as anything

743
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: they've ever put out there. But if you think about

744
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: Mac Jones and you think about the role he played,

745
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: I mean he was an assassin. Now Mac Jones ends

746
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: up being the best quarterback who's come through there. But

747
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: Mac Jones had proven commodities around him. You knew who

748
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: Naje Harris was. You knew, for example, who DeVante Smith was.

749
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: You knew all those all Americans along the offensive line,

750
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: you knew who Steve Sarkeesian was. So this is not

751
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: some prediction that they fall off a cliff. Far from that.

752
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, unlike what Mac Jones had to do,

753
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: and already having proven commodities out there, Bryce Young has

754
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: got to play an instrumental role in making the new

755
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: commodities proven co modibes. A Ji Hall, for example, we

756
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: saw him flash in the spring game. If he is

757
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: a household name by December, it's going to because of

758
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. If you've got John Metchi pushing for All

759
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: American status, it's because of Bryce Young. Jalil Billingsley, you know,

760
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: if he pops on the national radar, it's because of

761
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. And so he's got to be a guy

762
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: with newness all around him, including a coordinator that's got

763
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: to orchestrate things like you would normally expect someone to

764
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: have to have a few years of starting under their belt.

765
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: To do.

766
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: At Alabama, they usually have the most talented quarterbacks in

767
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: the country, so you can somewhat circumvent that, but it's

768
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: still at.

769
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: The core of what you're looking at with Alabama.

770
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: This year they open with Miami, and with Miami Derek King,

771
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: this one's really easy.

772
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: You see this one coming from a mile away.

773
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: I just wonder if the health of his knee allows

774
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: them to implement their full offense, to run their full offense.

775
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: I look at them, and I did not realize this

776
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: when you start to do your research, if you just

777
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: think about what Miami was last year, I did not

778
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: realize in terms of efficiency, this was the second best

779
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: passing attack in the ACC when Dearreck King was healthy

780
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: and he got knocked out in the bowl game, so

781
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: that's pretty much the whole season. But they were like,

782
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: there's a really good foundation down there. And so you

783
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: think about what all you have going for you this

784
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: year if you presume a healthy Deary King, and I

785
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: mean a guy that's able to do all of it,

786
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: not a guy that's shining in seven on seven where

787
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: you drop back and you just throw it and you

788
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: don't really have a live rush in your face and

789
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: you don't have to scramble east west. You just do

790
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: your three seven nine step drop and that's it versus

791
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: what they're going to ask him to do. You've got

792
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: Rhet Lashley there now, you have a full year and

793
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: a half, if you want to call it that, under

794
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: your belt. With those two working together, you've got as

795
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: good an offensive line situation as Manny has had in

796
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: his tenure there as head coach. So you got a

797
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: lot of elements that you need for success offensively. But

798
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: it all hinges on the health of dearreck King if

799
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: he is there, and they out of Miami lead you

800
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: to believe that he is. If he is there, well,

801
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, what does that do in that division?

802
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: Because everyone's penciled in North Carolina as winning that division.

803
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you I disagree with him.

804
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is this question here that could very

805
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: well hold the key. Cause I've already told you one

806
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: of our biggest circle games in the ACC this year

807
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: does not have to do with Clemson. I would argue

808
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: my biggest circle game in the ACC this year is

809
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: that Week seven game where North Carolina has played seven

810
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: games in a row. They're coming off what will be

811
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: a fight against Florida State. Meanwhile, Miami has rested the

812
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 2: week before and they go to North Carolina. So UNC's

813
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: running off seven games in seven weeks, Miami's rested. They

814
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: get to go up there, and you could have division

815
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: on the line. I mean, that's a very big game.

816
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: In no shape, form or fashion is that some thirteen

817
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: or fourteen point spread. It's going to be a really

818
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: hotly contested game. Health of Deeric King obviously at the forefront.

819
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: How about CJ. Stroud.

820
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: That's the name that hardcore college football fans already know.

821
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: Casual fans are going to learn the name cause he's

822
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback in all likelihood at Ohio State. I

823
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: wonder how he is to lead them from bell one

824
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: at the caliber that you expect Ohio State's quarterback to lead.

825
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: Because this is not a situation at all where you

826
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: look at a guy and say, boy, he's gonna have

827
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: to shoulder a lot of the load. I mean he's

828
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: gonna have to he's gonna have to drag the rest

829
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: of that offense across the goal line with him every week. No,

830
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: they've got race horses everywhere. It is a ready made offense.

831
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: It is a sports car that just needs someone who

832
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: understands how to steer and keep it between the lines.

833
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Well, see, J Strout is more than that. He is

834
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: a supreme talent.

835
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: He's a former five star guy, and he's not a

836
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: true freshman either, so he's been there and he's the

837
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: guy in all likelihood that wins the starting job. I

838
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: wonder about the intangibles, is what I'm telling you. I

839
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: wonder when we watch the Minnesota game in week one

840
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: and the Oregon game in week two. Is it a

841
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: situation where you're watching and then you go to the

842
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: Buckeye message board afterwards, or you listen to the call

843
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: and show afterwards, and maybe Ohio State's even won the game,

844
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: but the callers are saying, man, we're still easing him in.

845
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: Though. Is it that?

846
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: Or is it all systems going? All the intangibles are there,

847
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: and you got the poise and the pocket awareness, and

848
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: he's making checks at the line of scrimmage, you got

849
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: the situational awareness, all of the intangibles from day one.

850
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: It's unlikely, it's unreasonable, but it's not impossible. I wonder

851
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: if he's gonna look like that, because if he looks

852
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: like that, then early on you're looking at Ohio State,

853
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: and the only other question I would have is how

854
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: have they had to win games early in the year,

855
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: because secondary is a huge question for them. Has to

856
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: be even the most optimistic Buckeye fans have to look,

857
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: knowing what wasn't there last year, and.

858
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: Say, we got a ways to go.

859
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: Even if I believe the practice reports, I got a

860
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: seat with my own eyes.

861
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: Does he have to win a shootout early?

862
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: That's why I'm asking these questions, because they if they

863
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: house Minnesota, if it's thirty eight to fourteen and the half, well,

864
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: that's not a big deal, and you can afford to

865
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: bring him along. If you got thirty eight on the

866
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: boyd probably at bringing much along, he's probably there. But

867
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: if it's thirty one to twenty eight at the half

868
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: or midway through the third quarter in that week one game,

869
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: and you're having to have him win one early on

870
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: inferior your.

871
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: Opponent, but it doesn't matter.

872
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: You got two quarters of ball to play, really matter

873
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: what the point spread or power ratings tell you. I

874
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: wonder if that's the kind of game they may have

875
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: to win early on. If they do, that's the best

876
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: shot you probably have at clip in Ohio State in

877
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: conference and the last one, and this is one that's

878
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: going to be a fight in camp.

879
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: The closer you get to LSU, though.

880
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: The more they would lead you to believe Max Johnson

881
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: has the edge and that quarterback battle. Now I myself

882
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: lean that way, but I also trust our folks.

883
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: On the ground at LSU.

884
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: You know, they haven't let us wrong before and so

885
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: they have a pretty good feel that Max Johnson's the

886
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: leader in the clubhouse there.

887
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: It is imperative to me with.

888
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: LSU, even more so than other teams this year that

889
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: players take ownership of the twenty twenty one version of

890
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: LSU because a lot of the issues that you heard

891
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: whispered about last year, those things are rectified when players

892
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: take ownership.

893
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: All the best teams.

894
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: When you listen to coaches at the end of the year,

895
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: this is a common theme.

896
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: It's a common refrain.

897
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: It is that you know, about halfway through the year,

898
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: three quarters the way through the year, I realized.

899
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: I could take my hands off the wheel it.

900
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: You know, you still got to make practice schedules every day,

901
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: you still got to implement game plans. But the players

902
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: are really what the DNA of this program was this year.

903
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: That's what LSU needs to be this year in order

904
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: to maximize the potential. Well, a big part of that

905
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: is figuring out your quarterback. Ideally, you would like your

906
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: quarterback to be one of the alpha leaders on the team.

907
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: And here's what I'm looking at, and here's what I'm

908
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: asking with LSU. Won't be the last time you hear

909
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: me say this. When they get into fall camp. It's

910
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: Miles Brennan and it's Max Johnson, and you got varying

911
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: degrees of opinions sixty forty one way or the other

912
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: who wins that job, maybe even seventy thirty at this

913
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: point if you talk to LSU fans. But my point is,

914
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: even if Max Johnson ends up winning that job, how convincingly.

915
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: Does he win it?

916
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: Is it a week two decision where it's so convincing

917
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: that edwars Run doesn't see the need to continue that

918
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: And more importantly, the team is letting you know that

919
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Max Johnson has won this job, which tends to happen

920
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: in camps. Coaches a lot of times will tell you

921
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: I thought the guy had won the job second day

922
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: in camp, but the team needed to see it well,

923
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: how quickly does the team see it one way or

924
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: the other? If it is Max Johnson, how quickly does

925
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: the team see it in the fall, because that could

926
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: go a long way to answer the question of whether

927
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: LSU has that ceiling or has the potential to reach

928
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: that ceiling, because otherwise, Man, if you start off hot,

929
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: and if Max Johnson's the guy, and those kinds of

930
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: questions are answered, you're not talking about the threat for

931
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 2: multiple losses, five losses, six losses. That stuff's ancient history

932
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: with LSU, the worst cases, in other words, or ancient history.

933
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: If Max Johnson starts off hot, you're not asking those

934
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: questions anymore. What you're asking is are they going to

935
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: be undefeated when they play Bama? Are they gonna have

936
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: a minimum of one loss when they play Bama to

937
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: where that still decides the division? That is the kind

938
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: of question you start asking if Max Johnson starts off hot.

939
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: All right, last thing I wanted to hit here and

940
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of come back. We took a

941
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: break for a couple of minutes from the conference realignment.

942
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: But conference realignment is here, it is emminent, and I

943
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: don't think there's any doubt about that from sea to

944
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: shining Sea. In college football, the headlines and rumors over

945
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: the next week to month in college football will be incredible.

946
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: It's why I have stressed make sure you're following me

947
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: on Twitter at late Kick Josh, because we don't have

948
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: a show every hour of every day, and I can

949
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: guarantee you there's gonna be a whole lot to talk about.

950
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: It's not an if, it's just a matter of when. Now,

951
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: the million dollar question or one hundred and fifty million

952
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: dollar question, if you read the headlines, is who's gonna

953
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: end up where? Let me tell you now, as I

954
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: said earlier, there is no skill in that. That's like

955
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: trying to predict where the debris and a tornado is

956
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: gonna land. You just wait till it lands. Even the

957
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 2: decision makers, even Greg Sink, even TV executives, Bob Bowlsby

958
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: and the like. University presidents they don't even know and

959
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: guys in a lot of cases, they're the ones whose

960
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: signatures will be needed on the forms.

961
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: When all is said and done.

962
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: So there's just a lot of weight and look over

963
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: both shoulders and wake up at three point thirty in

964
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: the morning and check the phone to make sure nothing's

965
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: happen happening. That is the life of a college football

966
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: executive over the coming weeks and months. And I know

967
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: they make a lot of money, but I want you

968
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: to think about how chewed down to the quick fingernails

969
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: are if you're an athletic director, or maybe you are

970
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: a TV executive, but especially if you're a conference commissioner.

971
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: Can you imagine this lifestyle right now?

972
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: Think about, at varying degrees, where you're at and what

973
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: you're on the hook for. You've got coaching salaries that

974
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: you're on the hook for. You've of course got infrastructure projects,

975
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: You've got facility upgrades, and in some cases you've got

976
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: university debt that you have leveraged loans for against your

977
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: future TV money that now all of a sudden you're

978
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: finding out may not come to the degree that you

979
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: thought it would. And it's all changed over the past week.

980
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: If I were to have walked on this show one

981
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: week ago, Colin, if I were to have sat on

982
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: the show, and I would have led it with I.

983
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: Got a prediction for you.

984
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: By the end of SEC media days, the headline will

985
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with any team currently in the

986
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: SEC it's going to have everything to do with Oklahoma

987
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: and Texas joining the SEC.

988
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: You would have had me fit for a straight jacket.

989
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 2: I would have been in the nearest padded room, which

990
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: goes to show you should never laugh at predictions, first off,

991
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: because the craziest ones sometimes end up being the ones

992
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: coming true. And secondly, Bob Bowlsby was completely blindsided by this.

993
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: There are many powerful influential people in the Big twelve

994
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: and in college football, in college Station Texas to be

995
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: included that we're blindsided by this. So it just it

996
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: changes that quick. So that's what this next month or

997
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: two months are going to be like. So I'm just

998
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 2: warning you get ready for it. But the conference realignment

999
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: proposals that I've seen floating around, I haven't really participated.

1000
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of you guys send me your best.

1001
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 2: Graphics and you've told me, well, I think if these

1002
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: two teams come to the SEC, this is what the

1003
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: division should look like. And then others say, no, we

1004
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: should go to the quadrants format. Well who's going to

1005
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: move to the Big twelve? Well, who's going to the

1006
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: Big ten. There's no skill in it. There's no skill

1007
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: in it. So Here's what I think.

1008
00:43:59,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: I do know.

1009
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: I don't think there is any shot that when all

1010
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: the dust settles, we have four legitimate super conferences.

1011
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: Here's what I didn't say.

1012
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: What I didn't say is we don't have enough teams

1013
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: to make up four super conferences. Call it sixteen apiece.

1014
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you we don't have enough teams. I

1015
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: said legitimate. We don't have enough teams for four legitimate

1016
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: super conferences.

1017
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: Do you understand how much oxygen is.

1018
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: Sucked out of the room with an SEC that consists

1019
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: of already the big boys that are in there, and

1020
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you've got Oklahoma and Texas,

1021
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: which completely renders one Power five conference irrelevant on the

1022
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: national stage.

1023
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: And then also, what are we looking at?

1024
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: Are we seriously going to measure the SEC equal to

1025
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: other conferences at that point? No, And so you don't

1026
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: have legitimacy. What I'm saying in four super conferences. You

1027
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: can have all the teams out there. You could go

1028
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: raid them Mount West and the AAC. You could do that,

1029
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't be viewed as legitimate, which stands to reason,

1030
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: is why you walk in and you demand, at least

1031
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: in many out at large spot in a playoff coming

1032
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: up as you do guaranteed spots makes a lot more

1033
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: sense now. But the other question I have, which is

1034
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: why there is no skill in predicting this, is who

1035
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: told anyone the SEC is done expanding when they land

1036
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: Texas and Oklahoma.

1037
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Nobody Nobody told you that.

1038
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: Nobody told you a super conference just has to be

1039
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: sixteen teams, could be twenty, could be twenty four. And

1040
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 2: if they have other big time brands knocking on the door,

1041
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: and they're already willing to upend the apple cart to

1042
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: go get Texas and Oklahoma, who's to.

1043
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: Say they don't say yes to two.

1044
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: Or three more marquee brands, at which point you've even

1045
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: further deluded the concept of having multiple super conferences. And

1046
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: while we're talking about conference realignment, I've seen a lot

1047
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: of proposals out there about the Big Twelve and the

1048
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: future thereof that indicate, oh, Bob Bowlesby in the Big Twelve, well,

1049
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: they'll just go poach the best teams from the American

1050
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: Athletic Conference, says, who think some of you have revisionist

1051
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: history about what.

1052
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: The Big twelve is?

1053
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: Minus Texas Oklahoma, the Big twelve minus Texas. No, Oklahoma

1054
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: is no more prestigious a conference than the American currently is.

1055
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: I would argue, why.

1056
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: Wouldn't the Americans start looking to poach teams like TCU.

1057
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they start looking to poach teams? And before

1058
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: you say, no one goes backwards, No one's going to

1059
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: go from a Power five to a G five. You

1060
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: got to do away with those logos. You got to

1061
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: do away with those brands in your head. You're in

1062
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: the middle of an earthquake right now in college football.

1063
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 2: Stop trying to figure out where everything sits and which

1064
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: building is this and what building is that. It's the

1065
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: middle of the earthquake. Everything's moving right now. Everything's in play.

1066
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: What the American Athletic Conference is today, it may be

1067
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: totally differently viewed.

1068
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: Than two weeks from now.

1069
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: Likewise, with the Big Twelve, there could be a conference

1070
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: in existence right now that's done away with in two weeks.

1071
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: Everything's in play.

1072
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is, I was doing radio in

1073
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: South Carolina the other day and we were talking about this,

1074
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: and we were talking about which teams the Big Twelve

1075
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: will poach, and in mid sentence and this is not smart.

1076
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: Don't do this if you're doing radio hits, I said,

1077
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: you know.

1078
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: The more I think about it, and I'll just think

1079
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: this out live on air with you guys, I'm sorry

1080
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: who says the Big twelve is the one capable of poaching?

1081
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: What attractiveness is there to go to.

1082
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: The Big twelve at this point that there wouldn't be

1083
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: to just stay in the AAC. I want to mention

1084
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: more about that in just a second, because here is

1085
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: the I think the biggest ripple effect that hasn't already

1086
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: been talked about a lot that's coming. This is going

1087
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: to have a massive ripple effect in the coaching market,

1088
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Speaker 2: and I don't think people are realizing it quite yet

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Speaker 2: because we don't know how these tectonic plates are going

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Speaker 2: to shift and settle eventually. But what happens if when

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Speaker 2: all the dust settles, which I've said fifteen times on

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Speaker 2: the show tonight, what happens if when all the dust settles,

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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve is thirty percent delegitimized.

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Speaker 1: What happens if the AAC is.

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Speaker 2: Completely blocked out, and let's say they do have some

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Speaker 2: of their teams poached. What happens, in other words, if

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Speaker 2: one or multiple current conferences that we view and define

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Speaker 2: as Power five are no longer that caliber.

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Speaker 1: After all is said and done, what happens.

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Speaker 2: To major coaches who happen to reside at programs that

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Speaker 2: are in those conferences. I'll give you just a hypothetical here.

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Speaker 2: What if the PAC twelve comes out on the wrong

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Speaker 2: end of this. What does Mario Christobal do at Oregon?

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Speaker 2: Does he just stay there? What happens if the AAC

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Speaker 2: gets gutted? What does Billy Napier do after he's turned

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Speaker 2: down multiple opportunities to have sec jobs? Wisely, I think

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Speaker 2: because he's been positioning himself to take the job he

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Speaker 2: wants instead of just any job that comes along. All

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Speaker 2: that jockeying and positioning and strategicy was conducted with the

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Speaker 2: old model. What if the new model says get out

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00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: as soon as you can, and you're looking around, there

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Speaker 2: are several coaches Matt Campbell at Iowa State who's taken

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Speaker 2: Iowa State. You know, if the Big twelve continues the implosion?

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Speaker 2: What happens with Iowa State? So there are some big

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Speaker 2: time coaches out there that could all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: be on the market without losing their jobs. And maintaining

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Speaker 2: the same trajectory that they're currently on. You just look

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Speaker 2: around and you say, the landscape's changed, And I don't

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Speaker 2: know anything about the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is for e.

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Speaker 2: Mario Cristobaul at Oregon right now, they're homming along. But

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Speaker 2: what happens all of the sudden if the pact WEL

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Speaker 2: is not tomorrow, what the PAC twelve is today. He

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Speaker 2: could look at it and say, oh, well, I'm loyal

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Speaker 2: to this brand.

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Speaker 1: You know, Liver or Die, I'm loyal to this brand.

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Speaker 2: Or he could say, well, I also have my career

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Speaker 2: to worry about here. And then you ask yourself, what

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Speaker 2: happens to the transfer portal? If players all of a

1130
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Speaker 2: sudden are reading web articles and looking on Instagram TikTok

1131
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: and looking on the web and looking on TV, and

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Speaker 2: they're being told the Power five program you committed to

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Speaker 2: is no longer in a conference that's labeled Power five anymore.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna have as easy access to this and

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Speaker 1: that in YadA, YadA, YadA, what happens.

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Speaker 2: To the transfer portal? So you see, there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of ripple effects out there still to come. And

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Speaker 2: I think it's inevitable at this point for conference realignment

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Speaker 2: to where you are in the middle of a college

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Speaker 2: football earthquake. There is no skill in predicting when it

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00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: will end. There's no skill in predicting what the landscape

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Speaker 2: will look like when it's done. Just find the nearest doorframe.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in Georgia. No one knows earthquake protocol there,

1144
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Speaker 2: but I watch Saved by the Bell, so I know

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Speaker 2: that when the earthquake strikes, you get under the doorframe.

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Speaker 1: Just find the nearest doorframe. Right now, my advice to you,

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Speaker 1: the college football public.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of folks in the live chat

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Speaker 2: right now, so thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Look, here's what we need, just a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: They're all free.

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Speaker 2: We had a huge surge in subscriptions to the twenty

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Speaker 2: four seven Sports YouTube channel this past week. We need

1154
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Speaker 2: those to continue. As those continue. Big partners are attractive.

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Speaker 2: Director Colin and I were just dealing with one right

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Speaker 2: before the show got a.

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Speaker 1: Huge meeting tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it's a huge week for the show for

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Speaker 2: reasons that you will very very very soon see.

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Speaker 1: So keep that in mind.

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Speaker 2: But also subscribing to this channel, liking this video and

1162
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: then following that Instagram and Twitter account worth its weight

1163
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Speaker 2: in gold at late Kick Josh by the way, and

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Speaker 2: this is the best week ever to do it because

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of breaking news nuggets

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Speaker 2: and items out there that I'm.

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Speaker 1: Probably going to want to talk to you about that.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise we would have to wait for a little while

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Speaker 2: for so we have soon got a format change coming

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Speaker 2: first week of August. I think we have slated to

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Speaker 2: go to three nights a week live, that'll be Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Got a ton of momentum with the show. Momentum is

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Speaker 2: very real in this world, So thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for that. Thank you for tuning in tonight, have a

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Speaker 2: great start to your week. For director Colin, for our

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Speaker 2: entire crew in Fort Lauderdale, I'm Josh Pate, Thanks for watching.

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Speaker 1: God bless