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Speaker 2: an interview with a woman who is fifty seven, very accomplished,

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Speaker 2: the triumphs and the winds and the losses and failures

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Speaker 2: and all the things. But I want to hear a

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Speaker 2: little bit first, like how your story began, Like where

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Speaker 2: did you come, Like where did you grow up?

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Speaker 1: Like who were you?

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Speaker 3: What did you want to do? What were the dreams?

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Speaker 2: And and is what you're doing now anything closer?

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Speaker 1: Does your path just go? Yeah? You know, I always

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Speaker 3: And sometimes they were thrown it to you, thrown.

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Speaker 2: My parents healthy literally not just like a loving family

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Speaker 1: Which is amazing. I think that was just DNA. I

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's just like everything, everything is terrifying

437
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 2: at twenty five.

438
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: And then I guess it also goes to show in

439
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 1: life like we're pretty resilient. We can, we will, we

440
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: will show up for whatever shows.

441
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 2: Up for us well as women for sure, for women especially, Yeah,

442
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: I can see.

443
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: Right, they can peace out whenever they want. You know,

444
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to say all I want to say

445
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 3: generally speaking, you know.

446
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: Well, especially if it's not like in this particular case,

447
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: neither one of us were mature enough to be in

448
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: that place. I'd like to say probably had a lot

449
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: more maturity than he did. But it became, you know,

450
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: one of our biggest teachers and my biggest teacher. And

451
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: I think through the thirteen years of marriage, we did

452
00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: have two more kids. We divorced amicably, and and I

453
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: reflect he actually just got married to his second wife

454
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: about a couple of weeks ago. And I've always for

455
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: me just I'm very introspective. So through the divorce, I

456
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: really spent a lot of time thinking about, you know what,

457
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: what was my role in because we didn't we didn't fight,

458
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: which wasn't necessarily a good thing, because I think sometimes

459
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: you need passion and can be fighting, which is communication.

460
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: Part of our problem was we didn't have enough passion

461
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: in communication.

462
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: I think that's most people. I think that's end glitch

463
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: in the system.

464
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and we and so we sort of were

465
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: dead walking and he's a he's a great guy in

466
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: many ways. I don't think we were great together at

467
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: the time, but we were so young, we didn't have

468
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: the tools. Sure, So fast forward, you know, it was

469
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: a single mom also terrifying, and which I think back

470
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: to what I've done over the last twelve years since

471
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: I've been single and starting to companies as a single mom,

472
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: as a single woman, and that I don't it's it's

473
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 1: this has been a very reflective year for me. We

474
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: were talking earlier about twenty twenty three. Yep, it's been

475
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: a very reflective, very healing, but also honoring year for me.

476
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: I really stopped to think back to what it was

477
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: like for me with three little kids, no money and starting.

478
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: My lasting terrifying. It's just terrifying. And you're alone and

479
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 2: it's scary, and you're responsible for these little humans and

480
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: also responsible for yourself, and you have no one to

481
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: like lean on in those fearful moms. And you know

482
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: you have your friends of course, and you know family

483
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: and whatever, but it's like you don't have a partner.

484
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: There's no one to give you a hug at the

485
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: end of the day and say how was your day? Right,

486
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 1: there's no one. There's no shoulder to cry on when

487
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: you've had a bad day. Now when the kids have

488
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,239
Speaker 1: had a bad day. Kids have had a bad day

489
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: because you've got to show up fully for them. And

490
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: there's been like there's no one to have dinner, like

491
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,239
Speaker 1: pick up dinner, Like it's all on you. And I

492
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: don't think I gave myself enough, just acknowledgment and in respect.

493
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: For you, what don't You wouldn't because because in the moment,

494
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: I can tell you, in the moment, it's survival. Right

495
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: in the moment, you're like, this is my life. I

496
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: live for my children. I'm working, I love my job,

497
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: but my children, my children and my children, my children,

498
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: and now I think you're you know, you're an age

499
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: and a point in your life and your children are

500
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: grown where like fuck, you're like I've done that, Like

501
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: I've hey, like, look at these amazing humans and look

502
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: what I've built, and I cannot, in looking back probably

503
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: be like how how to do this? I don't think

504
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: I realized I was doing this in the moment. But

505
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: that goes to my earlier point that like women.

506
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: In general, and I think single moms, single working moms

507
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: just really single moms in general, but single working moms

508
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 3: is like it's a it's a whole another loaded.

509
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: Who also carried and I think his parents would carry

510
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: and women mothers really carry. But the amount of guilt.

511
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: I wrote about this on Mother's Day. I think this

512
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: past year and I was thinking about all the as mothers,

513
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: we spend so much time. My kids were all leaving,

514
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: so it's like it was about to become an empty nester,

515
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: and I went through this whole spin cycle of all

516
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: the moments I missed because I had these very fast

517
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: growing companies, which is wonderful and exciting. With that came

518
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: all the sacrifice of the football game. I missed the

519
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: soccer game, I missed the play that I missed, the

520
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: moment that I didn't get on the floor and play legos,

521
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: want to play legos? And I went through this period

522
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: of time where I was in so much anxiousness around

523
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: is cult and I thought, my god, wait, it's it is.

524
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: I thought, what if I focus on all that I

525
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: did do and how I've shown up.

526
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: Sure, I kids don't care, like they're not like, Mom,

527
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: you missed my school play, Like they're like, Mom, you're

528
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: freaking awesome.

529
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: You're a fucking badass.

530
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: Like I guarantee you that your kids think that I

531
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: guarantee you.

532
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: And I can't say that they like my daughter yes,

533
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: because we're besties. But my boys, it wasn't until I

534
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: read their essays that they would come out and say

535
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: how in awe they were of me, or how proud

536
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: they were of me, or how much they've learned from me.

537
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: And then you get that and you're like, okay, there's

538
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: almost nothing better, right, like to know nothing.

539
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 4: That.

540
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: Oh okay, even though I missed some of these things,

541
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: they still felt loved. They still they saw how hard

542
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: I was working for them, and maybe they couldn't communicate

543
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: that to me verbally, but in their essays for school

544
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: or college or whatever it is, that's where it would

545
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: come out. And those are those moments like.

546
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I didn't fuck this up, Oh my god,

547
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: I did something right.

548
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: And there's something just to add to this too, because

549
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 1: this was something that I learned, and I think this

550
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: is such an important thing as a parent. It's a

551
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: little bit of a sidetrack, but one of the things

552
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: that was really important to me with my kids because

553
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: we do fuck up and I would bring up to

554
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: my kids and you know, would laugh at me. I

555
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: was like, do you remember the time you asked me

556
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: to play Legos and I didn't? And they're looking at

557
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: me like no, And I'm like, well, I'm really sorry.

558
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: You're like repenting, You're literally repenting.

559
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: I'd be like having a dinner. I'm like, okay, guys,

560
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: how do you think your childhood was? Like I feel

561
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: from my point is, I've tried to create a space

562
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: of open communication with my children so that they could

563
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: come to me and say, you know, Mom, at this time,

564
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: really this really hurt me, and that we could talk

565
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: about it and they knew that they was safe to

566
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: do them and so what's That's what that's also cultivated

567
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: with us is they tell me everything, even when I

568
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: wanted to see your hair, secks, anything, that's the best,

569
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: that's what you want that. I just I cherish that

570
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: relationship with them so dream it's you know, And you know,

571
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: I think part of it was just because of my

572
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: own childhood and not feeling like I could talk to

573
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: my parents. Definite different generation. We can't tell our parents anything.

574
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: It is.

575
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: Roger goes to like hold my hand or kiss me

576
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: in front of my parents. I'm like, my dad's here.

577
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 3: No, it's just generational. It's like a totally different thing.

578
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: Our kids are our best friends now, but it's but

579
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: it's finding that line. And I think to your point,

580
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: you know, I really do believe that the single mother

581
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: thing not only helps to shape who you are, but

582
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: it really.

583
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: Shapes who they are.

584
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: And I think, in particular your daughter, I think they're

585
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: such as we get older, I think this, and especially

586
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: when you become a mother, you're like, how on God's

587
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: given earth did my mom do that?

588
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: How did my mom do that? Like?

589
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: I think how hard I struggle between the balance and

590
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: never wanting to leave my kids and never wanting to

591
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: miss anything whatever, And then I think about my sister.

592
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: Knowing, how the hell is she do this?

593
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: How did she do this?

594
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: Like literally, and it's like even dumb things like lifting,

595
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: you know, my one hundred pound suitcases when I travel,

596
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 2: and like Roger will just come in and like, you know,

597
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: even in moments where I want to like hit him

598
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: with a frying band because I'm mad at him, He'll

599
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: still schlept my stuff, you know what I mean. And

600
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: I'll be like Pamela, who shoves her stuff. She's like

601
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: I slept my stuff, you know, like, and I think,

602
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 2: but I do think that makes you even better and

603
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: more of a badass. And I think that's the thing.

604
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: You're not reliant on people in that way. But I

605
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: am curious now as you've started Chroma, Like, so Chroma

606
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: is how many years now?

607
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: Three?

608
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: We launched just over two years ago. Two years okay, yes,

609
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: two and a half years. Okay, there's still new. I

610
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: mean it was a good baby, four plus years in

611
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: the making, five years in the making because when I

612
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: left my last wellness company, Beaming, and I had Creditive

613
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: was amazing and it was you know, the super food

614
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: cafes all over La and San Diego. I grew it

615
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: to amazing brand, amazing food. I mean, everyone loved it.

616
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: I made some big entrepreneurial mistakes, including not having Tod

617
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: and some other you know, not having a strong lawyer

618
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: and other things that ultimately cost me the company, which

619
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: was a really devastat especially because this you know, again,

620
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm a single mom. I've taken a little bit of

621
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: money I had in divorce, I've put it all into Beaming,

622
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: lost everything, and this is after and.

623
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: Being and how old were your kids at this point?

624
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: Well, so I opened the first Beaming summer twenty twelve,

625
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: and so they were, you know, seven, something.

626
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: Like this pivotal, pivotal.

627
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: And then when I was building Beaming and then when

628
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: I lost it, I would say that was in twenty

629
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: seventeen or when I had to walk away, and that

630
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: was that was tragic for me also because I was

631
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: so passionate and we were changing so many lives that

632
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, this this has to continue,

633
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: Like don't you see the good what we're doing. But

634
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: it was the best thing that never happened to me, honestly,

635
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: outside of having my kids, because it was incredibly humbling.

636
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: I had to go through. I went to Hoffmann, I

637
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: went through all the deep soul searching of how did

638
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: I get here, what's my role and accountability here? And

639
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: how do I never end up here again? And it

640
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: was my best teacher.

641
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: But in the moment, don't you just I've had a

642
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: moment like that and I will never forget it. Like now,

643
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, did it help me become who I am?

644
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: And wow?

645
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: Did it open up ten more sets of eyes and

646
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: ears than I ever had? And it you know, I

647
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: realize that those giant mistakes are what push you forward,

648
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: but in the moment, it's the most catastrophic, terrifying.

649
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: So I think, and this is something that's just like again,

650
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: something goes back to my childhood. And I don't know

651
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: why I was programmed this way, but I remember as

652
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: a little girl in some different moments that were very painful,

653
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: and I had somehow the thought process at it as

654
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: seven years old, thinking I don't know why this is happening,

655
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: this really hurts, But somehow in here there's a guess.

656
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why I had that wisdom at seven,

657
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: And it's just been through the part through going through

658
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: what I went through with beaming and divorce and all

659
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: the other moments in life that are very challenging. I

660
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: have always, even though it sucks horribly, I've always had

661
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: this view of even if I don't understand why this

662
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: is happening, I know that when I get on the

663
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: other side, it's going to make sense. And I know

664
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: that when I get there, I am going to be

665
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: a better person. There's better everything that waits for me

666
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: on the other side.

667
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: There's a learning in it. There's a learning in it.

668
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: I try to tell people now just after my experience

669
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: is sort of like, this is so bad right now,

670
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to tell you that it's not.

671
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: And you have to accept and embrace and hold the bad.

672
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: You just have to because if you don't, it's going

673
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: to fester and it's going to come out later. But

674
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: know that it's happening for a reason. And I believe

675
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: that life makes decisions for you that you very often

676
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: can't make for yourself.

677
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: And I love life isn't happening for you, it's not

678
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: happening to you. It's happening for you. Yes, And I

679
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: think that being able it also helps you when you're

680
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: going through it, find the strength to get through it,

681
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: and there's not one time and I don't think anybody

682
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: would reflect on this. It can't look and just go.

683
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: No matter how painful something was, there is a gift

684
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: in it, right, We're willing to see it and experience

685
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: it for that. And I think that's been something that

686
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: has been part of my you know, lifeline through more

687
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: difficult times. And again I said, it's been a teacher

688
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: because it helped me become losing beaming also helped me

689
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: become a better leader. It made me more investible because

690
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: I had done something really amazing, but also had learned

691
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: a lot of lessons that as people came and got

692
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: behind me for CHROMA, that that actually became an asset.

693
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: At first, I thought I was a loser, and I really,

694
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, second guessed everything about who I am as

695
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: we do right, and then you realize, oh, quote, the

696
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: failure was actually kind of a huge asset.

697
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: I also think, like it's funny, and I go back

698
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: to our G nine summit, but like when you listen

699
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: to a lot of these women talk and some of

700
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: the people that I admire most, they've had countless failures.

701
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: I mean it was funny. I think this year it

702
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: was Bobby Brown. That's like, oh yeah, after I did

703
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 2: Bobby Brown, I had like three other things that I started.

704
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: Haven't heard of them because they failed or like you know,

705
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: you're you know this one because this one's working, but

706
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: like it didn't. Just so I think it's you know, everybody,

707
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: at the end of the day is human, and no

708
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: one is an overnight success. And that is why I

709
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: created climbing and heels because for this exact reason. Everyone's

710
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: path is hard. Some aer harder than others, but everyone's

711
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: is hard, and everyone and no one's just the same.

712
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's and it's it's part of I mean,

713
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: it becomes our secret sauce too. Yeah, way right. And

714
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: I as much as I wish being still existed in

715
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: the way that we had created it, I got to

716
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: recreate something with just more I don't know if I

717
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: can say more intention but it's I've expressed myself in

718
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: a new way through chroma that still allows me to

719
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: touch lives, but to do it in a way that

720
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: I think is just more, I don't know, more relatable,

721
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 1: more me, more a lot of things.

722
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: Well.

723
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: Chroma and beautiful. It's beautiful and it's genius and it's

724
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: chic and and well it's funny because I so I

725
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: appreciate that. I add that because you know, I think

726
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: everything should be beautiful, and I think everything that, especially

727
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: when it comes to doing things for your body and

728
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: for your health, that I think presentation and the way

729
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: things look make things more more attractive in a way.

730
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: Like it's sort of like when when when chroma arrives

731
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: at your house, you're like, I know, by looking at this,

732
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: not only do I want it to like sit on

733
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: my counter because it's pretty. So if you live in

734
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: like a tiny apartment and you need space saving, it

735
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: can sit on your counter because it's super pretty. The

736
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: whole setup and the whole thing and the wheel and

737
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: that that's thing, the gold thing, the beautiful what do

738
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: you call it?

739
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: Or the whole thing, Yeah, the whole thing.

740
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: But also it's delicious and and and it's not perishable,

741
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: which to me is such a huge thing because as

742
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: someone who's all over the place and my life is

743
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: so unpredictable and I never know from a Monday to

744
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: a Wednesday what's happening, where I'm going, what I'm eeting,

745
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: what I'm doing. I just think the approach to Chroma

746
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: and that sort of idea behind it, which I want

747
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: you to speak about, you know, is it's fresh, it's chic,

748
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: it's easy, which again, you want the work done for you.

749
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to think.

750
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 2: I don't want to think about it, so I want

751
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: to talk about Chroma. And I also want to say, like,

752
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: can't Chroma become beaming? Can't there be Chroma cafes? Can

753
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: there be Chroma chiosks?

754
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: Like I might have one more in me? Well, yeah, no,

755
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: I think that. I think there's a lot of possibilities,

756
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: and I think this is just the beginning for Chroma.

757
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: And I want to just acknowledge some of the things

758
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: that you said and starting with just the box and

759
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: in the presentation of that. And for me, health is

760
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: something that as a child, I wanted to feel empowered

761
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: with my health. And my creations, both with Beaming and

762
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: Chroma have been about empowering people with their health and

763
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: doing it a way that feels like it feels sexy

764
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: and approachable, beautiful and not scary and not scary. I

765
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: want you to feel like I get to do this,

766
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: like this is a gift to myself and that I

767
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: want to it. It's creevable, it's approachable, all those things.

768
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: And so when I started beaming twenty twelve, the world

769
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: was a very directly era. One was an arawon right right,

770
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: it was one arawon right. There wasn't remember. Well, so

771
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: we've come a long way and there's you know, the

772
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: products and the options and the things that we have

773
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: now is amazing. We still have a long way to

774
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: go for people really understanding the power that we have

775
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: over our health. And so for me it's always been

776
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: how can I inspire people through food, help them understand

777
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: how much power we have over food over our health,

778
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: just by being more ful of what we eat and drink.

779
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: But do it in a way that that feels like one.

780
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: It's got to be easy because we're all too busy.

781
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: We don't have I don't have time. So I create

782
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: products that I need for me, right, and I hope

783
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: that everybody else wants them to And they've got to

784
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: be portal. It's going to fit this lifestyle that we

785
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: live that's very fast paced. I think we're all well intentioned,

786
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: but you know, people aren't going to spend the time

787
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: not only making the food or putting these concoctions that

788
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: I do, but we need it to be easy, and

789
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: I don't I think that health. I think it needs

790
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: to tastes amazing. So for me, function and flavor have

791
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: to coexist, Yes, in a mantra for me since both creations.

792
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: And that's what we've been known for is making healthy

793
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: taste amazing and something that the whole family actually wants.

794
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: And that's something that I think we do really, really well,

795
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: and we'll continue to do. We that all sorts of

796
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: new products coming out and I can't wait to launch those,

797
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: and someday there might even be at the Chroma Cafe.

798
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: So very exciting. I could see it. I see it,

799
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 3: I see you doing it.

800
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: I see it.

801
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: I think, would this be a manifesting at this moment?

802
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: Not not today, but I'm saying that would be. I'm

803
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 2: trying to do this manifesting for four Yeah.

804
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: Well I love that. I love yes, And I'm one

805
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: of those people actually on the manifesting thing. I like

806
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: I People are like, do you create vision boards? Like

807
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: how do you do it? I am one of those

808
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: people that does exactly what we're doing. Now you put

809
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: it on in the universe, you just say it the universe.

810
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't want one that like, writes it in the

811
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: journal and creates a vision for.

812
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: Someone tells me yesterday I had to write it. I'm like,

813
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: why don't.

814
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: But all you have to do is actually believe it

815
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: can be right, like and believe it could be true.

816
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, I freak the hell out of

817
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: people have things that that will happen. That all say

818
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: something and then the next day like that, the same happen.

819
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: Same.

820
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: It's for better for worse, by the way, so and.

821
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I say things and it's not the best thing,

822
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: and then it happens. Roger looks at me, He's like,

823
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: you're literally a witch. Stop stop stop saying that, Stop

824
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: putting in the universe.

825
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: It's not the negative things exactly, say things that are weird,

826
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: like next year, I want to be a Billionairely that's dumb, Sorry,

827
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 1: but that's domb It's more things that are like even

828
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: like this was true for when I was raising money

829
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: for Croma. This is a great picture to it. It's

830
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I have not a dollar to my name

831
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: because I was beaming. I haven't rebuilt. I'm now trying

832
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: to put a new company out to the world.

833
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: Three children cool.

834
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: I literally have no money, and I've emptied my four

835
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: oh one k. I'm trying to raise money the time

836
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: where people are trying to figure out how to get

837
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: toilet paper and food rights like just truth, and I

838
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: am asking trying to ask people for money. And through

839
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: that peer time, what I had to do is I

840
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: had to like really put my manifesting on and I

841
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: what I envisioned was, well, what are the kind of

842
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: people I want to surround myself with? And what I

843
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: started with was what if I could raise money from

844
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: a group of really amazing women who would whether it's

845
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: the celebrities or it's the powerful business woman that I

846
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: or the mom in the community, but they would be

847
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: so excited about what we're doing that they would want

848
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: to help me tell the world. And the manifestation I

849
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: did was started with that and this idea that I

850
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: could bring together a group of amazing people that would

851
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: want to support me and the vision for Chroma. Then

852
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: I got really what you did, which I did, and

853
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: so I did Female women female Investments.

854
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: Incredible, which is so cool. It's so incredible.

855
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: It's so cool, and it's been such a big part

856
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: not only in the success of Chroma, because everyone of

857
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: you know that the people have gotten behind me, and

858
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: there's some great men too. All of them have been

859
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: not only champions and helping us tell the world, but

860
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: I know that I could call upon any one of

861
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: them if I needed to talk about something, that I

862
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: needed help or something. And that was the vision I was.

863
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: It was not just like people of influence. It was

864
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: people that would really stand behind me and want to

865
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: help us be successful and believed in what we were

866
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: doing in our mission.

867
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: And that the most valuable in my opinion, Being.

868
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: Very clear about that intention is what allowed because almost

869
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: none of the people that ended up investing in Croma

870
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: I did not know. I didn't know Amy Griffin, I

871
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: didn't personally know when I or you know, Naomi Watts

872
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: or any of others that they got behind me along

873
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: the way. Cannice Neilson, greg wentthrew.

874
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: Like love you.

875
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: I didn't know any all these, Yeah, and the fact

876
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: that they they got behind me is something I just

877
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't I don't take lightly, and I'm always in

878
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: tremendous gratitude and it's made this fun because of course

879
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: it's just this theme the power of women coming together

880
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: is something that I just I I'm so grateful to

881
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: be part of that end and sitting here with you

882
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: and having this conversation and what we can do together.

883
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: I think, listen, I think you know.

884
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: And I speak about this a lot because I'm not

885
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: really shy about the fact that I was not supported

886
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: by women coming up in my life and in my career,

887
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: not personally, not professionally.

888
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: Guys were super nice.

889
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: Women were not, as a rule, and it was hard,

890
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: and it was really hard because I would look at

891
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: women who would pretend to be nice to me and

892
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: I would just think, like, I know you don't want

893
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: me to win, Like I know that you don't You're

894
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: not rooting for me at all. And so it was

895
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 2: a huge cadilest for why I started climbing in heels

896
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: because I said, I'm not that girl. I'm actually the opposite,

897
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 2: and I'm such an INCREDI do appreciation for the women

898
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: that do support me and the women that do show

899
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: up for me, and I show up for my friends.

900
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: And it's the thing that I hear the most from

901
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: the women in my life is how I show up

902
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: for them. And I'm like, because I understand that that

903
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: is literally the most important thing we do as girlfriends

904
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: or even just new friends, even just anyone saying hey,

905
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: I love what you're doing. Like I love what you're doing.

906
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Let's figure out like what's next.

907
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 2: Let's figure out how we can work together. Let's figure

908
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: out how I can promote you, Like, let's figure that out.

909
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: And you know, I think that we've built such a

910
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: community of women in so many different businesses, but I

911
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: think collectively none of us compete with each other. I

912
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: think we all just root for each other. And that

913
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: is a new thing for me in my life and

914
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: since I've started in business, since I've started with having

915
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: funds and things like that, and I think it just

916
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: makes a huge difference.

917
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: And to your point, I think, like.

918
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: Feeling supported is worth everything, whether it's financially, whether it's emotionally,

919
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: whether it's personally, whatever that looks like, because I think

920
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: as women and working women and single moms and all

921
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: the things, there are those moments of isolation and feeling alone,

922
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: and I think when you don't, it's life changing.

923
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: Beautifully said Angela. And I want to honest also just

924
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: acknowledge and honor that for you because my experience with

925
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: you and I think about you and meeting you this summer.

926
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: You know, really it was so instantaneous with you, and

927
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: I felt so supported by you. You're like, why am

928
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: I not part of Roma?

929
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is awesome. I'm like and I'm you know,

930
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: and I laugh at myself because I'm like I said

931
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: to you, I'm not someone that drinks these things.

932
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: Like you're so cute about it. And then and ever since,

933
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: and I just always felt supported. So anything that you're saying,

934
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: I've experienced. And even though you don't necessarily get you know,

935
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: a lot of girl time together. I know if I

936
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: reaped out.

937
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 3: To you for any.

938
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: Supporter, you would totally be there for me. I really

939
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: want to honor and acknowledge that for you. And I

940
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: also want to say I too did not feel supported

941
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: by women. And you know, I remember going to s

942
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: m U and I was I was probably super dorky

943
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: or something, but I didn't make it into Southworty and I.

944
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: Remember you were not do You're definitely not dorky.

945
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: I think I wasn't. I wasn't a girl's girl then.

946
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: I think I hadn't come into my sense of authenticity

947
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: and who I am. I didn't have your voice at

948
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: yet in my voice, and I didn't have like part

949
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: of confidence is sort of my goofiness, my jump.

950
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 6: Right, like that's part, you know, and laughing a lot,

951
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 6: and I didn't know necessarily maybe how to like that

952
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 6: became sort of my one of my superpowers is being.

953
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: In goofy and relatable and such. So anyway, there was

954
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: so many points in life and even in raising money.

955
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: The women who turned me down were all the adventure

956
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: the women's own venture studios.

957
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 3: I talk about this with a lot of women.

958
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: Yes, that was rugal. And so it was the women,

959
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: the individual and angel investors that really got behind me

960
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: and believed me at a time where we weren't we

961
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: hadn't launched, we hadn't anything, and it gave me the

962
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: strength and courage like, oh, I'm not alone. Believe in me.

963
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: They know I didn't do this, and it just kept

964
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: feeding it along the way, and it's been a huge

965
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: part of my fueling me through the harder times as well.

966
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: His entrepreneurship, as you know, is so hard. How much

967
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: how many connections you have does not matter. This is

968
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: so large.

969
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: The most famous, prominent, seemingly successful entrepreneurs I know are

970
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:08,959
Speaker 2: crying at home.

971
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: They are They just are. It's just the ups and downs,

972
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: the triumph slowly.

973
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: Yes, you asked me if I was in LA and

974
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I haven't left my house in

975
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: San Diego for days. And I literally haven't left the house,

976
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: right And I'm here by myself on zuper called all

977
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: day and I'm like, but this is just you know.

978
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: And then go to a week and I'll be around

979
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: people again, but very it's lonely, and yet at the

980
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: same time, I'm always focused on one again, the gratitude

981
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: of what I get to do, the lives that were changing,

982
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: the impact we're making, how I'm growing as a leader,

983
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: the team and how we're coming together, and then the

984
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: different interactions and opportunities that I get to be part of.

985
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: I know, you should be so proud of the product.

986
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: You should be so proud of the product. And I think,

987
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, for my listeners, I think anyone who hasn't

988
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: heard of Chroma, which is funny because almost everyone I've

989
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: mentioned it too, they're like, oh, Chroma, I love Chroma,

990
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love Like That's the kind of

991
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: the immediate reaction, which is really interesting because it's very news.

992
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: Still in my opinion, and I think typically they're.

993
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: Like chromo, what's oh, oh my god, I love.

994
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: Chroma, you know.

995
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 2: So it's like it's it's it's a great, great thing.

996
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, listen, I think wellness as

997
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's trendy, it's saturated, it's all the things.

998
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: But chroma really stands out, I think in a very

999
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: unique way. And I think, as you said, it's a

1000
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: great gift for yourself.

1001
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1002
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 2: And I look at it, you know, I know there's

1003
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: like cleanses and resets and the whole, the whole thing,

1004
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: but I also look at it as you can have

1005
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: chroma every day, you can have the snacks and you

1006
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: can have the things, and you know, it's I think

1007
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: you can create chroma the way, like in a way

1008
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: that it works for you.

1009
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: You know, that's the design of it. I mean, since

1010
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: I've been like with beaming in with this, you know,

1011
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: cleansing is what we think we want, detoxic it is right,

1012
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: and I've always looked at it from more of the

1013
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: place of how can I get back in my body,

1014
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: feel take control because we all lose control and we

1015
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: just come up holidays right now too, right, this is

1016
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: the time he enjoyed, and it's and I love food,

1017
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: and I love good tequila wine or whatever.

1018
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 6: It might be.

1019
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: So about finding a balance for you. But the real

1020
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: transformation happens in the everyday choices. And so while we

1021
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: have the reset, we're we're not a cleansed company. We

1022
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: have a really it is truly a reset. It's just

1023
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: really healthy food. You're highly nourished. I don't believe in

1024
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: starvation and deprivation, so you for most people, it's more

1025
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: food than they can eat, right, which is contradictory to cleansing.

1026
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: Better, though better because I think you get men that

1027
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: way too.

1028
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: The men love it. Obviously, it's starve men. You just

1029
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: can't all the way. You can customize it and add

1030
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: what you need. So if you had a big work

1031
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: because I want you to work out, I think different

1032
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: than like the other cleanses where you have to shut

1033
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: your life down because you can't think you're grumpy as hell,

1034
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: you're raving bitch.

1035
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I'm not going to mention names. But

1036
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: I have friends that like, I'll be like, let's meet it,

1037
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: let's meet it, sinset tower, and they're.

1038
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: Like, I can't.

1039
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm not eating I'm cleansing, I'm so hungry, I have

1040
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: a headache.

1041
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, why are you doing this?

1042
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: Sarous I'm always doing that, And especially as parents, like

1043
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: what are we teaching our children, especially our daughters? Yeah,

1044
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: of course. And then the other that I really has

1045
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: been a strong principle for me, is I really believe,

1046
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: like especially like I don't. I want women to realize

1047
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: we don't have to starve ourselves to look and feel

1048
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: good in our bodies. And I think Chroma by just

1049
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: the pure design of it in that there's so much

1050
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: food and it's yes, it's super foods and adaptogens and

1051
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: all these healthy things, but it's it's very very culinary.

1052
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's three years making these products with my

1053
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: daughter and formulating with doctor Will Cole and putting that

1054
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: influence in there. But like for me, it had to

1055
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: be the best of the best so that you crave

1056
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: it and that you want it. And I always say

1057
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: I care more about what happens after the reses. The

1058
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: recess is that's the awakening. That's what you get in

1059
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: your body. You're like, Okay, now I feel like me again.

1060
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: Wow I have It's good. And so long I didn't

1061
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: deprive myself. My workouts were better than ever. I wasn't

1062
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: a raving bitch. In fact, I slept better. My mind

1063
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: was turned on, and now I have all the favorite products,

1064
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: whether it's the beauty Macha or the porridge or the

1065
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: bone broth or the Cranbery elixir which I'm drinking right now,

1066
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you have them to keep you know,

1067
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: incorporating every day, because that's that's what we take control

1068
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: of our health.

1069
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: I love the mantra and I love that with the

1070
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: other one turmeric, that the Golden Mile, I love that one.

1071
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 4: I love that.

1072
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so good on this I live

1073
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: on it because I love it and it makes me

1074
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: feel good. But I actually, really, really really love it,

1075
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: and I think that that's how health can be. And

1076
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: I've never looked at it from a place of like

1077
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: a fatter trend.

1078
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1079
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: It really goes back to me being a little girl

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Speaker 1: saying I want to fill empowered with my health, and

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Speaker 1: my life mission has become helping others do the same.

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Speaker 3: YESA, I love having you.

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Speaker 2: I love being I love having you. You're such a badass.

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Speaker 2: I love your energy. I loved meeting you this summer.

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Speaker 2: I was like immediately connected. I felt like I just

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Speaker 2: I think we hugged. I think it wasn't like a hey,

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Speaker 2: nice to meet you. It was like a I think

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Speaker 2: we're supposed to hug because you're so was.

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Speaker 1: The best it was. I mean I felt I felt

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Speaker 1: so welcomed by you, and it was so fun.

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Speaker 2: Now now I feel like I have to, like, I

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Speaker 2: almost think in your next Chroma packaging reset, you have

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00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: to put a jump rope. I do I swear I

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Speaker 2: think you have to do like a sheet jump rope

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Speaker 2: with like little golden handles that like that wraps up

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Speaker 2: and be like this is how I started, this is

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Speaker 2: what this was my path to my like finding happiness

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Speaker 2: and my body. So like, do this with your reset.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think you and I need to do some

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Speaker 1: masterminding around this.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for being on. This was so much fun.

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Speaker 2: I love talking to you. Now you're making me want

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Speaker 2: to go eat the like butter better. Yeah, talking to you,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, we go have some like oats.

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Speaker 1: I think I might have a buddy vet right now.

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Speaker 3: Much fun, so much fun. I love what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we can do so many things

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Speaker 2: together and we're going.

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Speaker 1: To We'll do a lot of cool things, so many things.

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Speaker 1: I love it. All.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, you have a beautiful day, and let me

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Speaker 2: know when you're coming up to La and we can

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Speaker 2: have a drink.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: It's that time in the show when I answer to

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Speaker 2: listener questions. So let's see what we have today. If

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Speaker 2: you're going to be shopping, what is your favorite department

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Speaker 2: store to be in? That's a really good question. Actually

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Speaker 2: it has a really easy answer. Burgdorf Goodman, which I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it qualifies as a department store. It

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Speaker 2: does because it's a multi category and all that. But

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Speaker 2: there's only one. So I used to be Barney's Rest

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Speaker 2: in Peace, Barney's. Before that, it was Jeffries Rest in

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Speaker 2: Peace Jeffries. Yeah, so I would say Bergdorf Goodman. I'm

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Speaker 2: not a huge department store person, certainly when I'm in Europe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Herod's and like Selfridges are just epically amazing Europe,

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Speaker 2: you know, certainly London and Paris really know how to

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Speaker 2: do a department store like everything else. Okay, do your

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Speaker 2: boys bicker more with you or your husband?

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Speaker 3: Oh? With my husband for sure.

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Speaker 1: I rarely rarely fight.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think the things I get strong on

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Speaker 2: like screen time, you know, if they've had too much

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Speaker 2: screen time, too much Fortnite, stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But other than.

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Speaker 2: That, I'm pretty chill with them. But I definitely I

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Speaker 2: get strong. I'd say my voice I get stronger, and

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Speaker 2: Kais definitely doesn't like when my lies gets stronger. But

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Speaker 2: I would say they definitely beick heer more with Roger

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Speaker 2: because he has less patience than I do. Okay, don't

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Speaker 2: forget to submit your questions for next week's episode. All

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Speaker 2: you have to do is dm us your questions to

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Speaker 2: at Clemian Hills Pod on Instagram and I might just

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Speaker 2: answer your questions. Thank you so much to Lisa for

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Speaker 2: being on the pod today. Her chroma products are so good.

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan, and I'm not shy about the

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Speaker 2: fact that I'm not someone that sort of does a

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Speaker 2: lot of cleanses or resets or drinks green juice or

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Speaker 2: any of that, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Obsessed with her products.

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Speaker 2: They're so good, even if you just want to keep

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Speaker 2: it in your pantry and just like you feel like

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Speaker 2: you want something that feels good, and you know, her

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Speaker 2: tumoric lattes, her Macha lates like they're so good in

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Speaker 2: the oatmeal and the cookie butters, and you know, anyone

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Speaker 2: who them loves them.

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Speaker 3: The presentation of the.

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Speaker 1: Product is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: She really does the work for you, and it really

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Speaker 2: just feels really good. I'm so inspired by her story. Truthfully,

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Speaker 2: I think you know, a lot of the women that

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Speaker 2: I've had on Cleming and Heels were raised by single mothers.

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Speaker 2: And I think anyone listening knows that whether you are

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Speaker 2: a single mother, had a single mother, of friends that

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Speaker 2: are single mothers or siblings, it is one of the

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Speaker 2: hardest jobs and incredibly hard and incredibly lonely and incredibly

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Speaker 2: scary very often. And I think the fact that she

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Speaker 2: has started two businesses under pretty tenuous circumstances on very

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Speaker 2: little money, very scary times, and being a mom to

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Speaker 2: three kids, you know, it's really a testament, I think,

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Speaker 2: to her work, ethic and her ambition. So I've really

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Speaker 2: enjoyed this episode. I'm so inspired by her story, and

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Speaker 2: I hope you are too. Tri Chroma.

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Speaker 1: It's so good. You will love it.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to write a review. Wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: I love reading them, and while you're at it, follow me.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Rachel Zoe and at Cleming and Hills Pod

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Speaker 2: on Instagram for more updates and upcoming guests, episodes, and

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Speaker 2: all things Carator.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 4: Come on