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Speaker 1: Drama Queens. Welcome, Welcome Back at Season three, episode five,
Speaker 1: A Multitude of Casualties Air date November two, two thousand five.
Speaker 1: Tom Wright was back directing him so much love him.
Speaker 1: I thought there was a good writing in this episode.
Speaker 1: To Arlie Fleming Jr. Wrote, wrote this one um. The
Speaker 1: synopsis here is basketball season starts at tree Hill High
Speaker 1: with a disastrous midnight pep rally, which neither of us
Speaker 1: ever did I know a pep rally. I can move
Speaker 1: around a pep rally blindfolded. This was I know you do.
Speaker 1: Everyone's throwing punches. It goes crazy. Brooke is threatened by
Speaker 1: a new girl Rachel and the cheer squad our beloved
Speaker 1: Danil Harris accles and uh Nathan puts Hayley to the test.
Speaker 1: He just openly tells her I'm testing you uh, and
Speaker 1: forces her to work with Chris Keller, which is really
Speaker 1: just our excuse to get Tyler back on the show. Him. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's so good. And then Whitey, who is super kind
Speaker 1: of nice and cheery this whole episode, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: has a big blowout when he has to make a
Speaker 1: decision about forcing Nathan and Lucas to work together again.
Speaker 1: And then Dan gets a surprising opponent running against him
Speaker 1: for mayor. Lots happening, but we don't talk about Peyton
Speaker 1: in this in the synopsis. I don't know why, because
Speaker 1: this was my favorite part of the whole episode, was
Speaker 1: the Peyton storyline. Um, before we get into any of it,
Speaker 1: should we tell people about what we've been cooking up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do you know what. I think the idea came
Speaker 1: to us kind of during the Dare Night episode because
Speaker 1: we love a scavenger hunt, like we literally like I
Speaker 1: did that for my birthday. It was so much fun.
Speaker 1: I had all my friends cut we we all met
Speaker 1: in one place. Everybody got a little booklet with a
Speaker 1: glue stick and a Polaroid camera and then they got
Speaker 1: a list and they had to go. We all had
Speaker 1: to go out on the town. We had like an
Speaker 1: hour and a half and you had to go find
Speaker 1: all these things in the street and random things, you know,
Speaker 1: roll the toilet paper from a restaurant, bottle caps from
Speaker 1: my bar, a chalk outline on the street, you know,
Speaker 1: and you had to take a polar ride of your
Speaker 1: team with the thing and then paste it into the book,
Speaker 1: and whoever made it first, you know, got the prize.
Speaker 1: I remember like kissing a dude because he had a
Speaker 1: scavenger Hunt written it out on his T shirt. It
Speaker 1: was his like bachelor party, and it was like, you
Speaker 1: have to kiss a strange blond woman. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm a strange blond woman. It's I'll do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's an excuse to goof around
Speaker 1: and have some fun. And so we wanted to create
Speaker 1: a cyber scavenger hunt for our fans because we really
Speaker 1: have been so lucky that so many of you spend
Speaker 1: your week with us, um and we've got some It's
Speaker 1: it's this is a big payoff to This is not
Speaker 1: just like, oh it's cute, like y'all are going to
Speaker 1: freak out. It's not just a T shirt. Joy and
Speaker 1: tell them what they're gonna win. Here's what you're gonna win.
Speaker 1: We're gonna explain the rules of the game in a minute.
Speaker 1: But what you're gonna win, let's get to that with this. Okay,
Speaker 1: you get a zoom with the Drama Queens. That's I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be really fun. Then, Um, sorry, my
Speaker 1: dog is drinking out of the water bowl right now.
Speaker 1: It's the loudest thing in the world. Are you good?
Speaker 1: Heidi like banging her metal collar against the thing. Um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna win a zoom with the Drama Queens, So
Speaker 1: all three of us are gonna sit and have a
Speaker 1: chat with you. You're gonna win a trip, a trip
Speaker 1: to North Carolina to Wilmington's North Carolina, which includes Hillary
Speaker 1: Tom What's what's in it? Baby? It is domestic round
Speaker 1: trip airfare. H Let's see what else do we got
Speaker 1: here for the what's for a winner and one guest
Speaker 1: for the winner and one guest? Hold on, I'm zooming
Speaker 1: this up. We got a whole list, folks. All right,
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get domestic round trip airfare for the
Speaker 1: winner and a guest. You were going to get two
Speaker 1: nights in a hotel and a five dollar visa gift card. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just some spend in cash for that river walk,
Speaker 1: so you can pretend you're Nathan and Haley sitting there
Speaker 1: by the Fair River. Maybe we'll try and find a
Speaker 1: little bracelet to throw in there for you do. It's
Speaker 1: so exciting. We've been working on this for a while
Speaker 1: because we wanted to make it really special for you guys.
Speaker 1: We wanted you to feel everything that we felt when
Speaker 1: we were back there in Wilmington's and just still experienced
Speaker 1: and experienced the town the way that it is, um
Speaker 1: with with all of the history that we walked through
Speaker 1: all those years ago, and um, we want you to
Speaker 1: be a part of that. So here's how we've structured
Speaker 1: this so that you can win this trip and this zoom.
Speaker 1: You're going to follow the instructions on Drama Queens O
Speaker 1: t H on Instagram. So it's at Drama Queens O
Speaker 1: t H, which hopefully you're already following. If you're not,
Speaker 1: right now, that's right now is your time. We're gonna
Speaker 1: post ten questions that only true drama queens would know.
Speaker 1: Explain a little bit about that. Yeah, So here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows all the one Tree Hill trivia on the Internet.
Speaker 1: It's out there. There's like Wikipedia pages about who kissed
Speaker 1: who and this and that. We wanted to really reward
Speaker 1: our listeners and so these ten questions are things that
Speaker 1: you would only know if you have listened to our episodes.
Speaker 1: We have carefully crafted these, So that's the scavenger hunt. Um.
Speaker 1: If you haven't caught up on all your episodes, now
Speaker 1: would be a great time to do it, um, because yeah,
Speaker 1: these are all the kind of behind the scenes questions
Speaker 1: that we've had a lot of fun digging into. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the harder the better. Get hard. So what you're gonna
Speaker 1: do is, once you know the answers to those questions,
Speaker 1: you're gonna email drama Queens at i heeart Radio dot com.
Speaker 1: Sup super easy Drama Queens at i heeart Radio dot com,
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Speaker 1: on in there. And for anyone who answers all ten
Speaker 1: questions correctly, you will automatically get placed in a drawing.
Speaker 1: It's just a it's a standard raffle. We're gonna stick
Speaker 1: your name in there and one person is going to
Speaker 1: be chosen one winner at random, and you will get
Speaker 1: a zoom with the Drama Queens and a trip to Wilmington,
Speaker 1: North Carolina to see where it all began. Well well
Speaker 1: probably also like tell them where to go in the zoom,
Speaker 1: Like we should zoom before they go on the trip
Speaker 1: so we can be like go here, go here, go here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have to, we have to. Or while
Speaker 1: they're they're oh, that's good too, that's fun too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have lots of good advice for you guys.
Speaker 1: It's to be so fun. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: who wins this because we do have some really loyal
Speaker 1: fans that were on a first name basis with now
Speaker 1: and I feel like they're like, DIBs, DIBs, yep, I'm
Speaker 1: coming forward, get on over there and check it out. Awesome,
Speaker 1: can't wait. Awesome, Awesome, And thank you to my Heart
Speaker 1: for helping us set that up. They've been really cool about,
Speaker 1: you know, letting us connect with our fans in this way. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, this episode bananas joy Bananas. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean it wasn't as big as the last episode it
Speaker 1: felt like it, but but I did like that they
Speaker 1: went back in time. Have we done that yet on
Speaker 1: this show? I think we, like the three days before
Speaker 1: something didn't have every I mean we had another. We
Speaker 1: went from having a huge party last episode to a
Speaker 1: huge pep rally this episode. It's like there're lots of
Speaker 1: extras continually trying to one up themselves. I remember our
Speaker 1: crew getting fatigue at this point, just being like, bro,
Speaker 1: can we just have a couple like quiet episodes where
Speaker 1: people just like talk and cry? What happened to people
Speaker 1: making moody faces and just like crying? Can we do
Speaker 1: more of that? Please? You know, we're going to teach
Speaker 1: you a dance routine. Not'll be easy. Haley becomes a cheerleader. God,
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Haley should have always
Speaker 1: been a cheerleader. Yeah. I like that she kind of
Speaker 1: finds her way into it begrudgingly. Um. I looked like
Speaker 1: I was eleven years old in that cheer costumes, standing
Speaker 1: up against the wall behind like that. You call it
Speaker 1: a cheer costume. What's it called? It's a uniform? Joy? Oh? Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a sport. Okay. You're like, we went to cheer rehearsal.
Speaker 1: What are the basketball auditions? That's happening. Yeah, um no,
Speaker 1: I thought there kids the whole pushback that Haley had,
Speaker 1: that scene that you and Sophia had in the apartment
Speaker 1: where she is so pleased with herself that she came
Speaker 1: up with this genius plan and you're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys, good pair. Yeah, it was fun. It was
Speaker 1: really nice to see that chemistry happened. I like that
Speaker 1: they leaned into that this season because you and I
Speaker 1: got some real time in the first season and then
Speaker 1: they had to break us up idiot together totally. Uh,
Speaker 1: but yeah we did, And I like, I like where
Speaker 1: Brooks at right now, and I think it's really fun.
Speaker 1: She was having a lot of fun with her character.
Speaker 1: Sophia was having a lot of fun with her character
Speaker 1: in this episode, so much pouting and petulant stomping around
Speaker 1: and you know, a bed of her own making that
Speaker 1: she's had to lie in. Well, her writing is so
Speaker 1: good in this what does she say that one time?
Speaker 1: She goes, oh, great, we solved your Riddle's let's get
Speaker 1: back to mine. Yeah, fantastic, We've solved your riddle. Um no,
Speaker 1: the writing for book is really good. They zoned in
Speaker 1: on her. Yeah, they figured out how good she is
Speaker 1: at comedy and they're like, oh, well, let's let's right
Speaker 1: to that because we need more of that on the
Speaker 1: show for sure. Thank god. Yeah, well this midnight pep
Speaker 1: rally she is. You know, there's like two different authoritative
Speaker 1: groups running this pep rally. Got Nathan on his like
Speaker 1: power spree being I'm a captain. I'm captain captain, and
Speaker 1: then Brooke is like I'm captain and they're kind of
Speaker 1: running these parallel It was fun. Yeah, these like aggressive
Speaker 1: captain maneuvers, which is as someone who's been a captain,
Speaker 1: that is not how you run your ship. Who his Oh,
Speaker 1: how do you do it? How to talk to me
Speaker 1: about being a cheer captain because you are a natural leader. Hillary, Well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't cheer captain senior year. That was Ashley Dawston
Speaker 1: and Nanika King and they were so good. But I
Speaker 1: was cheer captain's sophomore year for jp UM. I got
Speaker 1: too dark as I got older, Like I I was
Speaker 1: Peyton Sawyer. I had a megaphone with like a picture
Speaker 1: of Charles Manson on it and like all these like
Speaker 1: super angsty like quotes. I'm mad, but I'm also here
Speaker 1: in these bloomers, so call it what it is. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't do that. There was a girl who was
Speaker 1: a year older than me, who was a really awful
Speaker 1: captain like that, and and nobody liked her. And as
Speaker 1: this is a terrible story, we became grown ups and
Speaker 1: she went and she interviewed for a job at one
Speaker 1: of my friends offices, and she was just like, we
Speaker 1: can't hire her. She's a terrible cheer captain. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he comes back to haunt you. Man. Don't be a dick.
Speaker 1: That's just true. It's life. Um No, I've never heard
Speaker 1: of this midnight pep rally things. Midnight mass, I know,
Speaker 1: but midnight pep rally. You can get people to show
Speaker 1: up at church at midnight, but not a pep rally.
Speaker 1: That seems backwards somehow. Well, and it's only it's Christmas
Speaker 1: eve joy, people only a church on Christmas. Even that's
Speaker 1: true for midnight mass. Yeah, if anybody out there did
Speaker 1: have midnight pep rallies, tell us, because I went to
Speaker 1: a huge football school and it was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you didn't want kids out roaming the town at one
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. That seems weird. That seems so weird,
Speaker 1: but that's our kind of our m oh, isn't it
Speaker 1: that they're all out at trick, at these like lock
Speaker 1: in parties and at these you know parties where there's alcohol,
Speaker 1: and parents just seemed to be totally fine with their
Speaker 1: kids going to this club that's run by a high
Speaker 1: school girl where there's liquor and crazy bands. Because the
Speaker 1: liquor or was it just like you know, soda pop.
Speaker 1: Do we remember if that was actual liquor behind the
Speaker 1: bar or if they replaced Well I knew that, like
Speaker 1: they had bartenders there, but then on these all ages nights,
Speaker 1: maybe they would lock it up. No, I mean in
Speaker 1: real life. Oh, I mean in real life, I had
Speaker 1: a water bottle full of liquor, So I have no
Speaker 1: idea what was going on behind the box. I didn't
Speaker 1: have to go behind the bar, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like there were some of the bottles were
Speaker 1: all sealed up, but some of them were open, and
Speaker 1: I feel like at some point we got in there
Speaker 1: and tried to discover which ones were real and which
Speaker 1: ones weren't. Somebody had to have filled some up with
Speaker 1: real stuff. You know. The crew had definitely had some
Speaker 1: long days and they were like, somebody go find the
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels. That's like the fourth one on the right,
Speaker 1: the props department or can we call it the art
Speaker 1: department please? Um? Yeah? Did you have pepper rallies at
Speaker 1: your high school? We did? Um? I think I went
Speaker 1: to a few, although our our high school was we
Speaker 1: did do basketball, but we were bigger and soccer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went to Eastern Eastern Christian e C High in
Speaker 1: North Hamleton, New Jersey. What up New Jersey? And uh,
Speaker 1: they were big. It was a big, big soccer town.
Speaker 1: So we did a lot of those. And I did
Speaker 1: go to a lot of the soccer games I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't go to many of the basketball games EC Eagles.
Speaker 1: I was a cheerleader for a semester, Yes, for which sport?
Speaker 1: I think he was basketball. I don't know why I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't. I didn't care. I think that's what
Speaker 1: it was. Had a hard time appreciate you so much.
Speaker 1: Joy Like, hey, guys, you're jumping up and down. Is
Speaker 1: it helping? Is it really helping? Are the boys gonna
Speaker 1: they're going to shoot more baskets because you're jumping open down.
Speaker 1: I feel you don't I get it. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: I thought my time would just be better spent somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm in this skirt and we're and
Speaker 1: I'm learning how to throw my arms in these weird positions,
Speaker 1: and it's not I don't know, it wasn't for me.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously a lot of people really love it
Speaker 1: and they're they're great for pep. They get the crowd excited.
Speaker 1: I'm never I've never been one of those people that's like,
Speaker 1: good morning. I said good morning, just can't post it
Speaker 1: on social media the other day how much you hate
Speaker 1: the good morning? Well, Dan Scott is very much the
Speaker 1: guy in this episode who's like I said good morning
Speaker 1: at this time. He is so in. This was a
Speaker 1: brilliant move by the writers, by the way, what to
Speaker 1: put Dan in the position of running for mayor. I see,
Speaker 1: it's such a perfect spot for Paul. It's applicable. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I know people that run for local office and
Speaker 1: they're not I guess when I was a kid, I
Speaker 1: thought it was like, I don't know kind of untouchable
Speaker 1: people that would run for these offices. And now that
Speaker 1: I'm a grown up, I'm like, no, that's just that
Speaker 1: dude from down the street. Like they're not different from us,
Speaker 1: they're just you know, they've got time on their hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just Karen that runs a campaign. So it's just kidding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole Like you pointed this out, you're like, literally
Speaker 1: every character in our show hates Dan, but somehow the
Speaker 1: whole town loves him. Yeah. I don't know how that works.
Speaker 1: It's strange. Also, as someone who has been to a
Speaker 1: lot of pep rallies, like a lot, I've never seen
Speaker 1: a parent from them, Like where's the principle? That's usually
Speaker 1: the person that's like on the microphone and maybe you
Speaker 1: let a parent talk for two seconds. But I guess
Speaker 1: Whitey was the one who is sort of leading the frame.
Speaker 1: But it should have been a kid. I mean that
Speaker 1: is that's right. It's like the kids kind of run
Speaker 1: the pep rally. That's what's exciting about it. It's so
Speaker 1: weird to see like this grown up who's literally at
Speaker 1: the school every single day, like Dan lives at the
Speaker 1: school or in the Logistically, I cannot figure this out. Okay,
Speaker 1: So yes, I get that. The whole thing about people
Speaker 1: who are abusive is that often they're they're pillars in
Speaker 1: the community. Everyone loves them, and it's just in their home,
Speaker 1: their monsters that happens. I know that's real, um, And
Speaker 1: I've experienced some of that in my life, so I
Speaker 1: know firsthand that it's real. However, Dan is not just
Speaker 1: abusive to the like four or five people in his
Speaker 1: little circle. I mean, you don't get to be that
Speaker 1: kind of a meglomaniac unless you're screwing people over left
Speaker 1: and right. He runs a dealership, you know, he's in
Speaker 1: dirty deals with everybody all the time, screwing people. He
Speaker 1: walked around looking for ways to screw people over. So
Speaker 1: how does he not, in a small town like that,
Speaker 1: have a terrible reputation? Like how I don't understand anybody
Speaker 1: who went to high school with him knows, like, oh yeah, Danny,
Speaker 1: he's a dick. Like I know the kids I went
Speaker 1: to high school with that were dicks and I would
Speaker 1: never vote for them. May And he's still in the
Speaker 1: town that he went to the high school where he
Speaker 1: went to high school. Oh yeah, yeah, where are all
Speaker 1: like the kids that he picked on in high school
Speaker 1: or that damn like the girls that he like, you know,
Speaker 1: cheated on Karen with all that kind of I know
Speaker 1: now that we're older and enjoying the adult storylines more,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff I wish we would have
Speaker 1: seen that would have been really fun. Listen, the fact
Speaker 1: that Dan had to campaign at all is weird. If
Speaker 1: he's running unopposed, but he's still having to do this
Speaker 1: whole like, these are the billboards, this is my jersey
Speaker 1: getting retired. Here are my pamphlets and my buttons? Like
Speaker 1: what kind of door campaign? Just blowing money? If he's
Speaker 1: on a post. This was not thought through as well
Speaker 1: as it should have been. No one in our writer's
Speaker 1: room ran for local office ever, know you know what
Speaker 1: they did think through about this war of the roses
Speaker 1: between him and Deb. I'm loving this story like I
Speaker 1: wanted to go on forever and ever. I'm obsessed. So
Speaker 1: this is the episode where Dan puts Deb's toothbrush in
Speaker 1: the toilet and then she shows up with her whiskey
Speaker 1: and her lingerie at the morning meeting for mayor with
Speaker 1: the who were the pillars? Financiers? The financiers, Oh my
Speaker 1: got and Barbara is so brilliant. She's so funny, but
Speaker 1: she's also so hot. Like a great opportunity to just
Speaker 1: show off how smoking not she is. Can you see
Speaker 1: my ass in this? Just so cute, so likable? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I and I, like, you know, we were asking the
Speaker 1: last episode, is Deb going to sabotage his campaign? You know?
Speaker 1: And so it's great to see in this episode that
Speaker 1: little sidebar conversation that she had with Karen where she's like,
Speaker 1: I can make it messy for him. I have some ideas.
Speaker 1: Let's do that. Okay, it's the most fun we should have.
Speaker 1: Would be really fun to have Barbara back to talk
Speaker 1: about doing this stuff, because this is when she got
Speaker 1: really got into the fun part of her work. Well,
Speaker 1: and also so if she's I'm trying to think here
Speaker 1: just storyline wise, because she went from being real like
Speaker 1: square and like serious and we're watching the slippery slope
Speaker 1: where like party deb comes out she's already going to
Speaker 1: rehab for pills. Yeah, which we're not party pills. Those
Speaker 1: were down her pills. Those were to like put her
Speaker 1: to sleep. Now she's like using the alcohol as a
Speaker 1: way to get it dan and just kind of make
Speaker 1: a scene until it's not funny anymore. Like, at what
Speaker 1: point does it go from being like Oh, this is
Speaker 1: something I'm doing to mess with you too. Oh, oh,
Speaker 1: now I'm a mess. I know. She's always seemed to
Speaker 1: have it all together, and that's probably I think why
Speaker 1: Dan married her, right, it was I could see a
Speaker 1: successful future with this woman. She's gonna she's gonna be
Speaker 1: the wind beneath my wings and she's go get her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's going to carry me into all the places I
Speaker 1: need to go. And her dad had money and so
Speaker 1: Deb sort of always had it together. So it's been
Speaker 1: fun watching her unravel a bit. Um, But also, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's there's a there's a painful element of that too.
Speaker 1: There's it's it's hard to see im s hard to
Speaker 1: see someone go through that where they don't know the
Speaker 1: don't know really where they belong anymore, and he's been
Speaker 1: gaslighting her their entire marriage. So it's she's kind of
Speaker 1: figuring out who she is again for the first time
Speaker 1: probably since high school or college. Well, it's fun too,
Speaker 1: Like you said, watch this back as an adult and
Speaker 1: be closer in age to the adults on the show
Speaker 1: than the kids. Um, And I think when we originally
Speaker 1: did this, I didn't really buy into the whole like
Speaker 1: Deb getting wild storyline. I didn't either. When we were
Speaker 1: filming it, I was like, this is what mother would
Speaker 1: do that, And I'm gonna tell you what mother would
Speaker 1: do that us us Mother's joy awesome. Y'all ain't seen
Speaker 1: nothing to you. See Joy and I out at a
Speaker 1: French night club or just making poor choices somewhere. We
Speaker 1: joke about making poor choices, but God bless them, we
Speaker 1: have fun. Um. Yeah, I get it now because it's like,
Speaker 1: you're still young, You've got all these responsibilities, but inside
Speaker 1: we all still feel like fifteen sixteen years old. That's
Speaker 1: what blows me away about getting older. I really always
Speaker 1: it's so weird to see. Was this in the episode
Speaker 1: last week that we watched. Somebody said, oh, oh it
Speaker 1: was about Tommy Lee, and Sophia said it. She said,
Speaker 1: he's he's like forty and he looks like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so funny, but it really and we laughed
Speaker 1: about it when we were watching it, but it's just true.
Speaker 1: It's still hurt. I was like, oh God, now that
Speaker 1: I'm getting older, I'm getting older and I look at
Speaker 1: kids and I see they're so young. And I remember
Speaker 1: thinking about people who are our age and like they're
Speaker 1: so old and they've got it all together and there
Speaker 1: and you know if they just they like they had
Speaker 1: all the answers, We certainly don't know, guys were I'm
Speaker 1: a child inside. I still feel like a kid. Hence
Speaker 1: the reason, especially around boys like that doesn't go away either.
Speaker 1: Like a cute boy starts talking to me, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: mr even know how to function. I'm like sixteen all
Speaker 1: over again. Every time. Um, you seem to handle yourself
Speaker 1: very well with Chris Keller in this episode, you were like,
Speaker 1: oh not today. Haley is good at it. Haley knows
Speaker 1: what's up. What do you think it's like the crux
Speaker 1: of that whole thing. Do you really think that Nathan
Speaker 1: thinks he can trust Haley or is he just trying
Speaker 1: to create and like I got you moment. I think
Speaker 1: he is trying to figure out if he can trust
Speaker 1: her and and this is his weird high school way
Speaker 1: of doing it. I mean, that's what I keep remembering
Speaker 1: when I watched the show. We have to remember their
Speaker 1: high schoolers. Peyton. Peyton's massive up and down, up and down,
Speaker 1: up and down with Ellie. You know, she walks in
Speaker 1: and sees the article and suddenly it's like it's all
Speaker 1: for exploding itself for nothing. I hate you. Don't ever
Speaker 1: talk to me a goad you know. An hour later,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry, but that's that's high school. So I
Speaker 1: think that's what Nathan is doing. I think he's just
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. I don't know. Do you
Speaker 1: think it's a reasonable way of going about finding out
Speaker 1: if you can trust someone or not? It certainly seems efficient.
Speaker 1: It's like walking into traffic, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like it is, rather than be passive aggressive, it feels
Speaker 1: aggressive aggressive, Like you know, one, let's just strip all
Speaker 1: the bullsht away. If you can work with him and
Speaker 1: you don't have feelings for him, fantastic, show me if
Speaker 1: you do have feelings for him. I think the thing
Speaker 1: that's complicated as an adult is that we know that
Speaker 1: attraction and relationships are not some magic spell where you're
Speaker 1: all the attracted to one person and you're only in
Speaker 1: love with you know, Like, being in a monogamous relationship
Speaker 1: is a choice, and you will find eight billion other
Speaker 1: people in the world attractive, But your choice is to
Speaker 1: be with the person you're with and to honor them
Speaker 1: and respect them, and so I think it's reasonable that
Speaker 1: Haley can still think Chris Keller is like charming because
Speaker 1: he is. He's yeah, of course so fun. Even Nathan
Speaker 1: was trying not to like him on the basketball court.
Speaker 1: He had a little smirk when Chris walked away. It's like, see,
Speaker 1: he's likable. I think that's the redemption. It's not that
Speaker 1: Haley has to prove herself with Chris Keller. It's that
Speaker 1: Nathan has to spend some time with him and be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I get it, I get it. This
Speaker 1: is it's not romantic, but it's this is fine as
Speaker 1: opposed to all the serious grown up that we've been doing.
Speaker 1: This dude represents levity and you know, and Nathan kind
Speaker 1: of needs a pal right now too, which just seems
Speaker 1: like this is maybe gonna happen, like somehow Chris is
Speaker 1: going to endear himself because I feel like eventually that's
Speaker 1: where it goes. Yeah, exactly. Nathan definitely doesn't really have
Speaker 1: a friend right now. Uh, what's going on with him
Speaker 1: in Lucas? Why why is he being such a He's
Speaker 1: very well, I should say, he's just very instigate and instigative,
Speaker 1: and that's not the right word he's instigating things on
Speaker 1: the captain. On the captain. Um, yeah is it? It's
Speaker 1: so weird because he did all this work to not
Speaker 1: be a jerk, and he's been the star player on
Speaker 1: the team for a couple of years now, so being
Speaker 1: captain's senior year isn't like a big deal. Like he
Speaker 1: went to High Flyers, of course he's going to be
Speaker 1: the captain. Yeah, but Lucas, Lucas was with him the
Speaker 1: whole time Haley was gone. They were before they went
Speaker 1: to the racetrack. Lucas was there to help him get
Speaker 1: through that. They became good friends, they were living together.
Speaker 1: So it just seems strange just because I mean, he's
Speaker 1: Nathan still hates Dan, So I just it feels a
Speaker 1: little out of left field that just because Lucas was
Speaker 1: looking into uh Dan's past and it's kind of setting
Speaker 1: him up with Andy and all that, that's suddenly Nathan's like,
Speaker 1: I hate you. I don't get it. That's I feel
Speaker 1: like I missed something in the episodes. I wasn't here for, like,
Speaker 1: like did they what they do? Um? It seems like
Speaker 1: Lucas is always defending Haley, you know, Like that's how
Speaker 1: the episode opens was like, you be nice to your wife,
Speaker 1: telling you to be nice to her White he says
Speaker 1: it best. I mean, he says to Dan at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the episode, damn your sperm, Danny, when the
Speaker 1: boys coming from plane out, maybe they are just like
Speaker 1: genetically predisposed to turmoil. God, those poor boys. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: really put him through it. Um Yeah, Dan running for mayors.
Speaker 1: But I love this Karen coming back and saving the day.
Speaker 1: This is exciting. You know what, Moira needed a storyline too.
Speaker 1: She wasn't doing anything. She hasn't been doing anything for
Speaker 1: a while. Well because they didn't want to pay any
Speaker 1: of her romantic interests, like Craig's gone, Larry, Larry's off
Speaker 1: busy with Ellie Now, damn, let's talk about that, because
Speaker 1: that was my favorite storyline. Everything else in the episode
Speaker 1: was interconnected except the Peyton and Ellie stuff, and that
Speaker 1: felt that felt kind of ground in the way that
Speaker 1: you were saying the last episode Hayley's grounded nous storyline
Speaker 1: with well, okay, I was going on at the party.
Speaker 1: I felt the same way about Peyton and Ellie. In
Speaker 1: this episode. You had some really nice work. It was.
Speaker 1: It was really just subtle and and again grounded and
Speaker 1: and gott Cheryl was so good too. Even the moment
Speaker 1: where she's on the m r I table and going
Speaker 1: about to go into the miss the Cats game machine,
Speaker 1: which we were talking about, that was like ten seconds
Speaker 1: a shot of you know, they did a close up
Speaker 1: of her face and she was upset, and then they
Speaker 1: did the wide shot of her going into the tunnel. Um.
Speaker 1: But they had to drive over there with all the trucks,
Speaker 1: go into the hospital, set the trucks up because before
Speaker 1: we had the hospital set I believe well, I mean,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have had all this m RI I equipment.
Speaker 1: There's no way that we would have had this. So
Speaker 1: they had to set all that up, get her into
Speaker 1: a thing, you know, then they had to do this
Speaker 1: ship close up shot of her face, then the wide shot.
Speaker 1: It's so funny how that probably took like five hours
Speaker 1: all and all, but you know, for ten seconds, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's those little parts of the
Speaker 1: show where you're like, do we really need this right?
Speaker 1: Like this is going to eat up a third of
Speaker 1: a day, if not half of a day of filming.
Speaker 1: Do we really absolutely need this ten seconds shot? And
Speaker 1: we did I think so too, Yes, because someone telling
Speaker 1: you they have cancer is one thing, right, um, And
Speaker 1: this is like in anything in storytelling, Saying it okay, fine,
Speaker 1: showing it is entirely different because without saying a word,
Speaker 1: we felt her fear, We felt the cheat that she's
Speaker 1: such a young woman on this table, you know, and
Speaker 1: and the fact that she's going through this medical treatment
Speaker 1: in a town that she doesn't live in. She's been
Speaker 1: living in a motel just to be close to this kid.
Speaker 1: She's not with her family. I don't know where else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know where she's supposed to be from. But
Speaker 1: she references her parents in this episode. She's like, my
Speaker 1: parents were hippies. You know. I wish Pete would have
Speaker 1: followed up because those are her grandparents. I know you
Speaker 1: think she wants more details, but I did like this.
Speaker 1: I really liked you guys as interaction in this and
Speaker 1: H had more hospital stuff. Are we're just in the
Speaker 1: somebody's always in the hospital on our show. You know.
Speaker 1: It really was a missed opportunity that none of us
Speaker 1: became a doctor, because that would have been the spin off.
Speaker 1: Why didn't anybody become a nurse or nobody become a
Speaker 1: nurse or a doctor, a scientist or something. It's the
Speaker 1: one profession that we didn't do. We had like clothing
Speaker 1: designers and sportscasters and like musicians and writer you know what.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. It was all kind of um
Speaker 1: like self aggrandizing, Like nobody went into service, you know
Speaker 1: everyone just like I want to work a spotlight job.
Speaker 1: I don't want to help anybody. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's the ego behind all of it. Uh, we should
Speaker 1: have had somebody who would have become a doctor, not me.
Speaker 1: Peyton's like not hospitals. Yeah, hate them. Lucas would have
Speaker 1: been a good doctor because that would have been really
Speaker 1: I mean not that we need like another can't really
Speaker 1: spin off a show off of main character. You have
Speaker 1: to fad have a side character who came in. It's
Speaker 1: probably like like one of the River court boys, like
Speaker 1: Fergie or John or skills nurse skills, nurse skills. He
Speaker 1: could have been. I would feel confident if a nurse
Speaker 1: came in, like if I needed stitches and I was like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm Hillary and they're like I'm skills, great, show me up,
Speaker 1: fix me you I want you? Yeah? Okay, Well We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to talk to Antone about that. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun. That's that's a medical show. I want to
Speaker 1: see skills, nurse skills, nurse skills. Okay, So speaking of
Speaker 1: like new characters and side characters, we got a whopper
Speaker 1: this episode. Rachel was introduced last week but didn't really
Speaker 1: have a lot to do. She was just kind of
Speaker 1: like a seed that was being planted. We got the
Speaker 1: full Rachel this episode. Oh, it was glorious her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did, um didn't. I didn't love the way that
Speaker 1: clearly she was being treated by by the her bosses.
Speaker 1: I don't know what are we saying by the writers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think we can look at this episode
Speaker 1: because there's you and I noticed a couple of questionable
Speaker 1: things in this episode. We have to look at this
Speaker 1: episode the lens of two thousand five, right, yeah, and
Speaker 1: and through the lens of a lot of men in
Speaker 1: positions of power, and when you're doing your you're I
Speaker 1: don't know, checking you know the boxes? Is this okay?
Speaker 1: Is this green light? Is this okay? Is this green light? There?
Speaker 1: Clearly wasn't a woman here that was like, you know
Speaker 1: what the fat jokes are bad, especially because you're directing
Speaker 1: them at a girl who's a size too size zero. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, it's absurd, But then it plants the seed
Speaker 1: in every girl's head at home. If I'm Sophia size
Speaker 1: or bigger, I'm shubby. Now. It was so wildly irresponsible
Speaker 1: and off and so off and so irresponsible. Boys thought
Speaker 1: it was funny, man, They were like, this is how
Speaker 1: girls talk to each other. Well that and the punching
Speaker 1: and slapping, and I mean it was just so so silly.
Speaker 1: It's also it's not at all. Have you been in
Speaker 1: a fight. I've been. No, I've only been close to
Speaker 1: a fight when I was in like the fifth grade.
Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you about this? No? I want
Speaker 1: to hear it. In the fifth grade, and there was
Speaker 1: this girl. There was this girl named Amanda. I don't
Speaker 1: know where last name was, but she she was she
Speaker 1: was a big, tall girl, and she was kind of
Speaker 1: mean and grouchy and she just didn't like me. She
Speaker 1: picked on me all all the time. And I used
Speaker 1: to wear hats to school, a little bowler hat and
Speaker 1: like cute hats with like a sunflower on it. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like completely, I feel like maybe I've told
Speaker 1: this story before and I can't remember. No, I don't
Speaker 1: know anyway a man and I used to like bracelets
Speaker 1: and anyway, So Amanda walks up to me in the
Speaker 1: hallway one day. I have no idea why she was
Speaker 1: mad at me, but true to exactly what you said, Hilary,
Speaker 1: we were watching the episode and you said girls don't
Speaker 1: punch each other, they pull hair, And this is what
Speaker 1: she did. She walks up to me in the hallway
Speaker 1: and grabs my hair and yanks my head back. So
Speaker 1: I'm forced to stare kind of up at her, and
Speaker 1: she's like yelling at me about something in my face
Speaker 1: and you know, kind of throws my head back and
Speaker 1: lets me go. And oh no, that I hit her
Speaker 1: in the face and then she let me go. That's
Speaker 1: what it was, I coming back. Yeah, yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: So I reached up. She was a hold of my friend.
Speaker 1: That was the only I could get it. Let her
Speaker 1: to get go. But it wasn't like a full it
Speaker 1: wasn't like a Dynasty slap or a Dallas slap. It's
Speaker 1: just like popum like it's just a pop like get
Speaker 1: off of me, you know. And then she did. And
Speaker 1: then later we went out there was later on in
Speaker 1: the day and she was like I'm gonna fight you,
Speaker 1: blah blah bah and up in my face. And I
Speaker 1: just was like, oh fine, I would rather get hit
Speaker 1: and get in trouble and fight this girl then continue
Speaker 1: on with this bullying day after day. So I took
Speaker 1: off my hat, I handed to my friend, I pushed
Speaker 1: up my sleeves, took all my bracelets off and my
Speaker 1: necklaces and I put them all on the hat. And
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's go. And I was fully ready,
Speaker 1: fully ready to get hit and to hit her back.
Speaker 1: And I was like in and then she just looked
Speaker 1: looked up and down at me and was like whatever
Speaker 1: and then walked away. And then she never bothered me again.
Speaker 1: So let that be a lesson to you, I guess
Speaker 1: be willing to fight. I don't know, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I've been in a I've been on a couple
Speaker 1: of scraps, not that I'm especially not as like a mother.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if my kid came home I was like
Speaker 1: I was in a fight, I would be like, what
Speaker 1: what what I've got? The meanwhile, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: a kid that grew up in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah all the time. Um wait, what
Speaker 1: tell me what were the circumstances. You can be as
Speaker 1: specific as you want or non specific, but how do
Speaker 1: how does I don't know a lot of girls that
Speaker 1: have gotten in fights. I mean, how does that happen?
Speaker 1: I was attacked by a boy in elementary school. I
Speaker 1: was to actually I got like beat by a boy.
Speaker 1: Um what happened? You know? I think he had some
Speaker 1: problems and I just became a target. Um. And he
Speaker 1: would scream in my ear and so he would just
Speaker 1: screech in my ear, kind of like in Dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 1: That sounds like you want to hear the most annoyance
Speaker 1: sound in the world. He was just screech. So I
Speaker 1: elbowed him one day and I was like, don't scream
Speaker 1: in my ear. And then he decided to follow me
Speaker 1: home and beat me on like the walk home with
Speaker 1: like a mailbox. And I mean it was really bad.
Speaker 1: Um wait, how did he get he did? He pluck
Speaker 1: it out of the ground, was lying on its side.
Speaker 1: It was it was joy. It was insane, but it
Speaker 1: also made me. You know, once you get over that
Speaker 1: hump of being afraid of something like that you know
Speaker 1: once you're once you have a mailbox thrown atche, who cares? Um?
Speaker 1: And so did your brothers kicks? No, my brothers were
Speaker 1: like in third grade, they were little no no. But
Speaker 1: then like in high school, there were a couple of
Speaker 1: confrontations like I've been shoved by a boy in high
Speaker 1: school in front of the whole tenth grade and like
Speaker 1: a lot of mail aggression. Um. They were like fights
Speaker 1: that would come rolling down the hallway and I would
Speaker 1: somehow get tangled up in them, and you know, just
Speaker 1: like it's like sounds like the pep rally rooms. Why
Speaker 1: are we on top of each other? It's like a
Speaker 1: tumbleweed coming down senior Court and you're just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, there's arms and legs everywhere and so um.
Speaker 1: I think the most accurate fight that we had in
Speaker 1: the show was with me and Nikki where we're just
Speaker 1: pulling each other's hair because that's what you do, you
Speaker 1: pull hair. You remember Nan, I'm not going to say
Speaker 1: his name, but I had a guy grabbed me at
Speaker 1: a party and I need him in the balls and
Speaker 1: it was like I remember thinking in the moment, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is like something out of a movie.
Speaker 1: He was on a football team. He knows who he is. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just a lot. I mean, I didn't really
Speaker 1: think about it. A lot a lot of male aggression
Speaker 1: growing up as a as like a chick. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a kid. I had a boy shoved me
Speaker 1: up against a chain link fence with a baseball bat
Speaker 1: up against my and we both got suspended. How did
Speaker 1: you get suspended because I was involved? Cool story? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, just right off? It takes
Speaker 1: me so mad. I Um. I thankfully have a very
Speaker 1: passive sweet son who anytime someone's an aggressler with him,
Speaker 1: he's always like, I think they have a bad home life.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, probably, you know, but that's good.
Speaker 1: Good on you and Jeff as parents for teaching him that,
Speaker 1: because not every kid understands that. No, sometimes you just
Speaker 1: want to you know about somebody. Um, I like that
Speaker 1: in our tumble weed fight in this pep rally, none
Speaker 1: of the boys hit us cheerleaders. We were just kind
Speaker 1: of quarantine, two separate piles. Who were you fighting? Were
Speaker 1: you fighting anyone? I don't remember this. I think I
Speaker 1: was trying to pull people off of each other. That
Speaker 1: seems like the most Haley thing to do, but I
Speaker 1: couldn't spot me in the pile. Yeah. I remember tom
Speaker 1: Wright being like, you're like big and like blonde, and
Speaker 1: you look like big bird over here because you're just
Speaker 1: kind of like hovering, So I need you to do something.
Speaker 1: Can you fight the mascot? And I was like, I
Speaker 1: would love to fight the mouse because I just know,
Speaker 1: well Brooke in um, Brooke and Rachel fighting, and like
Speaker 1: Peyton would naturally be like pulling Rachel off of Brook
Speaker 1: and like like yes, siding with Brooke and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we can't have you do that. Um, we need you
Speaker 1: distracted over here, go jump on top of this bird. Okay,
Speaker 1: Peyton then the bird fighting. But I feel like there's
Speaker 1: a T shirt in there somewhere, probably one can hope. Um, okay.
Speaker 1: So the introduction of Rachel, if you're Brooke, do you
Speaker 1: hate her right away? Like like, what do you think
Speaker 1: is behind that besides just the really kind of surface. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We got to ask Sophia about this next time, because
Speaker 1: she did start it. Brooke started it. I mean, Rachel
Speaker 1: just walked in and she was super nice, like, hey, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm late. Is this still where we're at and Brooke
Speaker 1: just didn't like her because of the night before at
Speaker 1: the masquerade party, because she was dancing with Lucas and
Speaker 1: Rachel even said, sorry, was that your boyfriend? I mean
Speaker 1: it was a little bit she was like a little
Speaker 1: sly about it, but she did say like, oh sorry.
Speaker 1: She asked at the party too, she was like, are
Speaker 1: you a couple? And Brooks says no, And then she
Speaker 1: asks again is that your boyfriend? And Brooks like no,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times you have to ask
Speaker 1: a chick if that's your boyfriend before you like, I'm
Speaker 1: the new girl. I'm gonna kiss whoever I want. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. I don't. I don't. I don't know Brooks
Speaker 1: started it. So I'm kind of like, I think I
Speaker 1: don't like that Rachel's enjoying getting getting under brook skin.
Speaker 1: I mean that's annoying, but uh no, I think it's
Speaker 1: just that now that's kind of what people. I guess
Speaker 1: that's a high school thing to do, right. You just
Speaker 1: think that you're going to play this game with a
Speaker 1: boy and you're gonna test him, and oh yeah, let's
Speaker 1: talk about her whole test with him too, because this
Speaker 1: is what feels weird to me, But I don't know,
Speaker 1: are doing the same thing. They're both being weirdo dictators
Speaker 1: and they're both testing their person And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: whoever was writing Nathan was also writing brook They were
Speaker 1: just like, we're gonna make them do the same things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Nathan's test seems a little more reasonable to
Speaker 1: me than Brooks. Brooks feels like a bait and switch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It also just kind of seems like, look, do you
Speaker 1: love him or not? Why? Why are you Why are
Speaker 1: you pushing him away intentionally to see you know, like
Speaker 1: you said, there's eight million people you're gonna find attractive
Speaker 1: in the world. Who's your choice? And Lucas kept telling
Speaker 1: her you're my choice. I want to be with you.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, go see if there's other people you're attractive.
Speaker 1: If the person you have to kiss a person, she
Speaker 1: gives him really the best? Am I really the best?
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't think that's fair. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like the storyline because it is very high school.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff you rationalize as a teenager.
Speaker 1: And I can look back on my journals and be like,
Speaker 1: oh god, you're so irritating it makes for great storytelling.
Speaker 1: I love watching it. It's so fun. But don't do
Speaker 1: that now. No. I mean I I'm so team Brooke
Speaker 1: in most things, but in this I'm just like baby yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's still even on the date. It's like you
Speaker 1: read his body language like in no way is he
Speaker 1: draped all over this girl, Like he's not doing anything.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. Please don't touched this
Speaker 1: hot redhead. I don't want it. It's so all for Brooke,
Speaker 1: and you know what, it's actually a good example of
Speaker 1: how men and women miss each other a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: he's doing all this for Brook because he thinks that
Speaker 1: this is what she wants, and what she wants is
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of what she's saying. And for her,
Speaker 1: she's saying, you should have you should have been able
Speaker 1: to read my mind. But it's different than her maybe
Speaker 1: body language or her the way that she's kind of
Speaker 1: acting being drawn out through a relationship, versus her specifically
Speaker 1: saying this is what I want, but then having it
Speaker 1: be actually the opposite. That's very She's so clear about
Speaker 1: what the rules are. She's so clear. I think she
Speaker 1: just wanted him to go out with someone who she
Speaker 1: felt was less than her, like less magnetic, less attractive, less,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody who wasn't a threat. And this Rachel
Speaker 1: girl shows up and is season one Brook. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: in the backseat of the car. She's down to get
Speaker 1: frisky whenever, she's doing sexy time dances. She's got every
Speaker 1: she's a popular girl. The cheerleaders are loving her. She's
Speaker 1: getting along with every buddy. Oh yeah, that's what she says.
Speaker 1: My entire squad has a crush on her. By the way,
Speaker 1: we did we all did you know who I love
Speaker 1: seeing more of in this episode two is Bevin. I
Speaker 1: know she didn't have a lot of lines, but she
Speaker 1: really we really got to get to know her and
Speaker 1: her get more familiar with her face and just see
Speaker 1: her more. I loved that. Well. I think they saw
Speaker 1: how valuable it was to have the Tim character on
Speaker 1: the boy's side, to have not everyone's the leader of
Speaker 1: the group, not everyone's the alpha of the group, and
Speaker 1: so to have those kind of wingman it gives your
Speaker 1: lead characters places to go and realistic communities, and so
Speaker 1: having the female counterpart. When the show ended, did Tim
Speaker 1: and Bevan end up together? Oh? My gosh, I think
Speaker 1: they did. That's like perfect. Wait, wasn't it skills Skills
Speaker 1: dated Skills dated her? In season three, I think they're
Speaker 1: about to get together. Oh yeah, but but yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like Tim and Bevan are the same person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it. That's good. The dance that Danielle had
Speaker 1: to do. Here's what I'm gonna say. I think part
Speaker 1: of the reason Danielle was so well respected and so
Speaker 1: well liked is that she came in and this was
Speaker 1: a hot show. Everybody wanted this part. Danielle came in
Speaker 1: and had to do this kind of humiliating dance, and
Speaker 1: she had to do it over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: And she came in with so much grace, and she
Speaker 1: didn't pretend like she wasn't like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: hate this, you know, like, she didn't pretend like she
Speaker 1: wasn't there to do a job. She showed up, she
Speaker 1: did her job, She communicated with everyone, she was so
Speaker 1: hyper professional, like it blew my mind. And and so
Speaker 1: I like that. Peyton immediately is like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I like her because that's how I felt like that's
Speaker 1: in real life. I was like, this girl's have to
Speaker 1: do the most ridiculous I've ever seen on our show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's just not making it weird for anyone, you know,
Speaker 1: She's just I'm here, let's do it now. She was
Speaker 1: great and then two g got introduced to this episode.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we have to talk about Kelsey. We
Speaker 1: can't end this episode without talking about Kelsey. I love her.
Speaker 1: She and I stayed in touch a bit. Um we
Speaker 1: ran into each other I don't know, like five years
Speaker 1: after the show was over, and then have stayed in
Speaker 1: touch ever since. And um, she's just such a cool girl.
Speaker 1: She's on Yellowstone now playing Um, I can't remember the
Speaker 1: name of her character. She's Kevin Costner's daughter in law. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. But also she's like like a perfect tin.
Speaker 1: And Jeff starts watching this show, I'm like, I know her,
Speaker 1: and He's like, you don't know her, Hillary, you know everybody,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, she was a child on One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill. I know her. Yeah, Like I literally know her.
Speaker 1: She was, But I guess I thought she was like
Speaker 1: sixteen when she did our because in order to work
Speaker 1: the hours we worked. But now that I'm doing the math,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think she was fourteen, she was little. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think she told me that too, You know,
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I have a terrible memory, but
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she told me that. Yeah. But she
Speaker 1: is so it's insane how beautiful she is. That's one
Speaker 1: of those faces that and she talks like this. She's
Speaker 1: just got a really sweet, like soft southern voice. Ah,
Speaker 1: she's so enchanting. I hope we get to have the
Speaker 1: right word for her, enchant She is enchanting. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would love to know what her experience was as like
Speaker 1: a real high school kid working on our pretend high
Speaker 1: school set, you know, because she was only supposed to
Speaker 1: be in a couple of episodes. And I think she
Speaker 1: stuck around for a while, Yes she did. She did.
Speaker 1: That must have been so weird for her, Like, you
Speaker 1: guys are doing it wrong. We don't use that slang anymore,
Speaker 1: your big weirdos um is that? Dear kids say that
Speaker 1: to you now, because Marie I says it to me
Speaker 1: all the time. She's like, mom, nobody says killer anymore.
Speaker 1: Nobody says trainers. I was, like, I said, sent a text.
Speaker 1: She's reading over my shoulder, Like I said, are you
Speaker 1: avail to somebody and she's like a veil mom. It's
Speaker 1: like Karen, who um god. Yeah. Now my son gets
Speaker 1: humiliated when I play music for his friends because I'll
Speaker 1: try to be cool and like put jay z on
Speaker 1: in the car and he's like, Mommy, stop stop, stop
Speaker 1: stop stop. This is an US thing that we do
Speaker 1: without my friends around. Um, all right, what else have
Speaker 1: we missed? I don't like. I don't like all the
Speaker 1: chubby talk. That really made me mad. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my notes and the things that I put big exclamation
Speaker 1: marks next to me too, And that was a go
Speaker 1: to joke from then on side the way, not just
Speaker 1: for but for me as well. They just kept they
Speaker 1: really kept it up. They liked using that. I don't
Speaker 1: so Erry, No, I don't know. There's just so many
Speaker 1: other things that you insult someone about, like fake insults. Fine,
Speaker 1: you know what making fun of somebody's being like, oh
Speaker 1: you're dumb. You know that you can find smart ways
Speaker 1: of calling something. Your clothes are tacky, you know that's
Speaker 1: a changeable thing. I don't know. Yeah, your hair, your
Speaker 1: hair color or whatever, hairstyle. You know, she used to poke.
Speaker 1: Brooke used to poke fun all the time at Haley's hair.
Speaker 1: It was cute, It's funny. Yeah, well this is also
Speaker 1: I feel like season three is the season where things
Speaker 1: went off the rails behind the scenes and so you
Speaker 1: can start to see more of it work its way
Speaker 1: into the stuff in front of the camera. Um. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best not to be like triggered
Speaker 1: by it, um because I really enjoy season Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean season three I love so much. And I think
Speaker 1: that the people who joined our cast season three were
Speaker 1: really strong and we had fun and it was like
Speaker 1: our show. People were watching it. We didn't know that
Speaker 1: season one or two, but by season three we were like,
Speaker 1: what's up now, bitches. Yeah, it's like now when they're
Speaker 1: telling us we're on the bubble, like we don't know
Speaker 1: if you're picking your up last you next year? You know? Okay, No,
Speaker 1: good story, guys, Emily asks, can anyone recite any of
Speaker 1: the basketball, cheers or dance routines performed on the show. No,
Speaker 1: but I did remember doing that one move, the arm
Speaker 1: pump that was part of the arm pump that was
Speaker 1: part of this routine here that was kind of funny.
Speaker 1: I would use real cheers from high school, so we
Speaker 1: would have to do just like filler stuff because they
Speaker 1: would do all the boys basketball sequences, right yeah, and
Speaker 1: we we wouldn't be on camera, but then they would
Speaker 1: just need to get us cheering on the sidelines and
Speaker 1: doing reaction shots. So I try to remember, like what
Speaker 1: our easiest cheers were from high school, and it was
Speaker 1: always like you go, Patriots go like but then we
Speaker 1: change it to yeah, we just I love that you
Speaker 1: so utah, real cheers from your high school to the
Speaker 1: other cheerleaders, I mean, and most of the cheerleaders. If
Speaker 1: you grew up doing cheerleading on the East Coast, chances
Speaker 1: are you went to like an n c A cheerleading camp.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of camps, and so we all
Speaker 1: knew the same cheers up and down the East Coast.
Speaker 1: So especially because I was from Virginia and like Bevan
Speaker 1: and the rest of the girls were from North Carolina,
Speaker 1: we all kind of knew the same things from camp um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we all Even in this episode where they
Speaker 1: were playing the jock jams, I couldn't do the arm motions.
Speaker 1: I know, years old, still doing the arm moves when
Speaker 1: I hear a jock jam. That's just how it's gonna go, oh,
Speaker 1: it's been a wheel hey, most likely to have lied
Speaker 1: the most on their driver's license information? Okay, um, I
Speaker 1: mean who's got the biggest ego on the show, Dan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dan's like, I definitely weigh one seventy. I am six four.
Speaker 1: You know, Paul is six four. He's definitely giving like
Speaker 1: all his high school stats and probably like in definitely
Speaker 1: not an organ donor. No, no, okay, yes, Dan is
Speaker 1: most likely to lie for sure. Who do we think
Speaker 1: fibbs in real life? Are we allowed to say? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's most likely to five in a driver's license in
Speaker 1: real life. Well, I'm gonna say Kelsey because I think
Speaker 1: she lied to us about how old she was on
Speaker 1: the show. She's like, she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys am totally sixty years old. And meanwhile she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, in middle school, she was definitely a little tiny. Alright, Kesey,
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