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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and well, a lot of stuff happening here, yeah,

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Speaker 2: right now and here at the league meetings. Everything kind

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Speaker 2: of starting to wrap up here a little bit in

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Speaker 2: terms of all the voting and everything. Just had an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to speak with the Steelers President Art Rooney the

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Speaker 2: second and he addressed some of the rule changes that

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Speaker 2: happened here. Obviously, the hip drop was one that he

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Speaker 2: addressed and said that was something that ownership really felt

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Speaker 2: just had to be taken out of the game. And

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Speaker 2: he referenced, you know, hey, look we lost Levy on Bell.

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Speaker 2: Oh you had this very injury for the season just

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Speaker 2: a few years ago, and I forgot that. That's a

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Speaker 2: devastating injury that to lose, you know, one of your

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Speaker 2: star players like that, and you know that's not all

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Speaker 2: you play. That's taken out of the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like the commissioner's about to speak as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he's going to address it as well. And

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, there's a long list of injuries from it.

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Speaker 3: And I understand that being a tackler in today's NFL

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Speaker 3: is very difficult and you don't have as much to

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Speaker 2: But if it's a pretty.

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Speaker 3: Obvious conclusion that this is a dangerous play, I think

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Speaker 3: you have to do everything you can to get it,

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Speaker 2: And I forgot about Bell, Yeah, I mean that's that

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Speaker 2: was one that was Avontez Burfer. He's running down the

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Speaker 2: sidelines and Perfect tackles and pulls them down from behind

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Speaker 2: and drops the weight on the back of Le'veon's legs.

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Speaker 2: And if you remember at the time, a lot of

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Speaker 2: the Steelers players were upset about that, right because they

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Speaker 2: felt that Perfect tried to injure. You've got a bit

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Speaker 2: of a reputation too, yeah, you know, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things what they're trying

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Speaker 2: to eliminate. You could still tackle a guy from behind,

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Speaker 2: of course, of course, what you can't do is just

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Speaker 2: completely leave your feet and just let your weight.

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Speaker 3: All your weight on the stress and the hamstrings and

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Speaker 3: that all the body lower body stuff is just too much.

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Speaker 3: You know, these guys are biggest physical and obviously it's

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Speaker 3: a dangerous game. But if you can eliminate I don't know,

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Speaker 3: ten to twenty injuries per year just from that, well

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Speaker 3: that's worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially again you're talking about star offensive players. Guys

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Speaker 2: carried the ball. Yeah, guys who have the ball in

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Speaker 2: their hands and this is the injury that's happening to them.

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Speaker 2: So no, I think that's an easy one. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: a good move, you know. He also mentioned that, of

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Speaker 2: course the Steelers were awarded Germany as another international area here,

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Speaker 2: so they now have three Mexico, Ireland from last year

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Speaker 2: and then and now Germany.

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Speaker 3: Could you explain that to me and the listeners a

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Speaker 3: little bit. I don't quite understand. It gives the award.

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Speaker 2: Marketing rights for those particular countries and so they can

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Speaker 2: go in and start, you know, the Steelers will start

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Speaker 2: sending several teams have Germany. Yeah, there are no Germany

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Speaker 2: looking ready. Steelers also went into that markets. And what

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Speaker 2: it does it allows you to, uh, you know, it

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Speaker 2: gives you a cooperation there so you can go in

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Speaker 2: and market your team in those areas. It also opens

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Speaker 3: And maybe build some sort of fan base right, they're

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Speaker 3: more likely to like the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, you know, so for example, the Steelers

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Speaker 2: They've done it in Ireland, Ireland, you know, things of

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Speaker 2: is it Mexico, Germany and Ireland now? Or they're three?

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Speaker 2: And does every team have three? Do you know that?

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Speaker 3: And he said, the league awarded it to the Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're going to give you now Germany too. Maybe next

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Speaker 2: He also said that you know, they expect to find

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Speaker 2: which I believe in May.

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Speaker 3: So okay, so there's another owner meeting, Yeah, where none

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Speaker 3: This is a big one. This is the big one.

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Speaker 2: But they'll vote on the things of that nature at

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Speaker 2: draft to come may huh. Yeah. Interesting. And that's for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, correct, that they put in for two

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Speaker 2: two years is what they're hoping he gets great, because

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of planning that goes into that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm sure of a lot of our listeners

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Speaker 3: and you know, you gotta give him plenty of time.

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Speaker 3: And I would imagine we'd be broadcasting down there or

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Speaker 3: down there quite a bit. Yeah, it'd be quite a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And of course also mentioned that, you know, the

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Speaker 2: I talked a lot about the kickoff rule and said,

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Speaker 2: he's like, oh, well, I might as well get behind

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Speaker 2: it here and voted in favor of it. He said,

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Speaker 2: but look, it's going to dramatically change the look of

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Speaker 3: Too, will definitely be a different visual to say the least.

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Speaker 3: Did he happen to mention anything along the lines of

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Speaker 3: it was close or there was a lot of back

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was a lot of back and forth

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Speaker 2: team coaches from around the league came up with his proposal.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, they all got to a conference call

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Speaker 2: So good. We'll see how it works this year, and

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Speaker 2: you know, they'll they'll tweak it next year or they'll

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Speaker 3: Two or keep it as keep it as perfect, ye know.

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Speaker 3: So I keep thinking about it, like what are the

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Speaker 3: what are the cute little how your mind works.

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Speaker 2: Right right right?

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Speaker 3: It's just like, well, how can I take advantage of that?

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Speaker 3: And I haven't come up with it yet, but maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's uh, you know kind of the just

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Speaker 2: that's the news that that everything that that Art had

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Speaker 2: you know, we've been very busy in free agency. Did

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Speaker 2: he talk about the team much? You know, the next

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Speaker 2: big step here is is the draft, and you know

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Speaker 2: this year's draft is a way to require more talent

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Speaker 3: And the league's about to get semi quiet here. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's almost truly draft season where the the you know,

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Speaker 2: There'll be a signing here there, of course, but you know,

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Speaker 2: because there's still some some guys out there, a lot

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Speaker 3: There are tons of those. Yeah, a couple of them

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Speaker 3: know there's a lot of Ode Elder the Dolphins talk

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Speaker 3: right now things like that, there's some big name guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so, uh yeah, Commissioner Roger Goodell, uh he's

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Speaker 2: Ronny mentioned that the you know, hey, we get the

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Speaker 2: week nine deadline.

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Speaker 3: I forgot about that, right deadline. I don't think we

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Speaker 3: talked about that on the air. So that's official. That's official.

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Speaker 3: Now the one more week, Yeah, okay, we'll be that's

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Speaker 2: I would have said two, but hey, you know, one's

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Speaker 2: better than nothing. Yeah, well, I mean one puts it

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Speaker 2: the season. He played an eighteen with Sevember. So now

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Speaker 3: I think it's one more game to at least Hey,

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, who knows how next to your goes?

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Speaker 3: But I keep thinking about how the Steelers have so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they're active at the deadline. One thing we

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Speaker 2: NFL this year is going to do a Christmas Day

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Speaker 2: So the team that plays in that game on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: So that Christmas game, their previous game is going to

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Speaker 2: make a team play Sunday. So that's like a Sunday

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so there'll be two Saturday games I imagine. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that makes sense, you know, playing a double header.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you could do like Bengal Steelers and

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Speaker 2: then Bengal Steelers, but you're probably not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's probably not the case. But I

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Speaker 3: hadn't thought of that. I mean, that is a super

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Speaker 3: short week. I'm pretty sure the wife's not hoping for

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Speaker 2: What you what you really don't want to see is

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Speaker 2: a team that has two Thursday night games and also

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Speaker 2: get the Christmas game. You would hope that the league

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Speaker 2: would avoid that like this. Steelers were one of I

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Speaker 2: think four or five teams last year that had two

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Speaker 2: Thursday night games. That was the first night time, the

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Speaker 2: first time that you've been able to would hope the

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Speaker 2: count that Wednesday as a thirdday.

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Speaker 3: Game basically, you know, I think so right, it don't

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Speaker 3: just count it as any old game. I'm sure it's

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Speaker 2: Mean, I don't think they're gonna want to put it.

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Speaker 2: You know, two very good football teams.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt. I forgot to mention when we were talking

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Speaker 2: looks like the Steelers won't be doing any international games

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's a blast and it's a great adventurer

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Speaker 2: But you guys have to travel the team. Is it's

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Speaker 3: Okay, is that the Thursday night or is that the

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Speaker 2: the Chargers got to C minus. The Bears got Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers got a twenty twenty four to fourth round pick,

438
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Speaker 2: which is one ten overall. So of course a straight

439
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Speaker 2: salary dump. That's just a salary dump.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think I would give the Bears a

441
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Speaker 3: good grade as he did because they have a rookie

442
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Speaker 3: quarter I mean, he's like his friendly of a receiver

443
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Speaker 3: as a rookie quarterback could get. And they can inherit

444
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Speaker 3: the money. I mean, they can deal with the money.

445
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Speaker 3: But Chargers are in a buy.

446
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Speaker 2: The Jerry Judy trade. The Browns get Jerry Judy, the

447
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,400
Speaker 2: Broncos get a twenty twenty four fifth round pick which

448
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Speaker 2: is one thirty six, and a twenty twenty four sixth

449
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Speaker 2: round pick which is two oh three this one, so

450
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Speaker 2: that the Brown's got to be minus the Broncos got

451
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Speaker 2: to see for me with this one. I would also

452
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Speaker 2: factor in at the Browns gave Jerry Judy a big contract,

453
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Speaker 2: which they didn't have to do right right.

454
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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, that's not where I would have invested

455
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Speaker 3: my money if I were Cleveland, and considering some of

456
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Speaker 3: these other trades that happened, including the Deontay one. The

457
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Speaker 3: compensation wasn't just nothing either. I mean it was a

458
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Speaker 3: fifth and sixth. It's just, you know, something for Denver

459
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Speaker 3: that wasn't gonna pay him, probably wasn't happy by picking

460
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Speaker 3: up his fifth year option. They were stuck on and

461
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Speaker 3: needs every pick they can get because their roster's really lean.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The Deontay Johnson trade, Carolina gets Deontay Johnson and

463
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Speaker 2: a twenty twenty four to seventh round draft pick which

464
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Speaker 2: was two forty. The Steelers is a real throw away.

465
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Speaker 2: Peah Steelers get cornerback Deontay Johns, cornerback Dante Jackson, and

466
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Speaker 2: a twenty twenty four to six round pick which was

467
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Speaker 2: one seventy eight. So essentially you moved up sixty two spots,

468
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 2: which is a lot, and a cornerback for Deontay Johnson. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I'll be the first to say when I saw

470
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Speaker 3: that on my phone, I was like, Wow, I thought

471
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Speaker 3: they'd get more for Johnson. But I do think a

472
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Speaker 3: lot of these trades have really screamed to us if

473
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Speaker 3: you can move from what it's a two forty to

474
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Speaker 3: one seventy.

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Speaker 2: Eight, that has a lot of value this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that in itself has more value than

477
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Speaker 3: people might understand.

478
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Speaker 2: The great here, though, is the Panthers got an A minus,

479
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Speaker 2: the Steelers get a D plus.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and I think the books still needs to be

481
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Speaker 3: written on Jackson. Yeah, see how he fits in.

482
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Speaker 2: At running back. The Joe Mixon trade. I didn't like

483
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Speaker 2: this one at all.

484
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Speaker 3: I was talking to a Houston guy last night and

485
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I love everything you guys did except for that.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Texans get Joe Mixon. The Bengals get

487
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Speaker 2: a twenty twenty four to seventh round draft pick, which

488
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Speaker 2: is number twenty two twenty four.

489
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Speaker 3: When they were rumored to cut them right before that,

490
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Speaker 3: you know, so they weren't going to get much in return.

491
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Speaker 3: I just don't know what they booked the Bees they

492
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Speaker 3: book up bess. I mean, good for the Bengals get anything,

493
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: is my point. Yeah, and it wasn't much. I just

494
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Speaker 3: don't know why Mixon was a target to be Yeah.

495
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: I don't know either. I think he's fading quick. He's

496
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: really been a liability in protection his whole career too.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the Morgan Moses trade. The Jets get

498
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Speaker 2: Morgan Moses and a twenty twenty four third round draft pick,

499
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Speaker 2: which is one thirty five overall. The Ravens receive twenty

500
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Speaker 2: twenty four fourth round draft pick, which is one thirteen overall,

501
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Speaker 2: NA twenty twenty four to sixth round pick which is

502
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Speaker 2: two eighteen.

503
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Speaker 3: Wow, that's the first I've heard the details of that.

504
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 3: But that's basically getting Moses for free. That's a salary

505
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: dump too. Yeah, I mean the fourth round or for

506
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Speaker 3: a third rounder next year. Yeah, and then you'd get

507
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Speaker 3: the late one. I know, they're both, They're all those

508
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: picks are this year. Oh okay, so the Jets got

509
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Speaker 3: the best pick and the player.

510
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Speaker 2: No, the Jets got a pick one thirty five. The

511
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Speaker 2: Ravens got picked one thirteen. Oh okay, I'm misunderstood. Yeah, okay,

512
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: well that makes more sense. The Jets get a B

513
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: plus the raven they're trying to win now, you know.

514
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 2: The Ravens get a C plus on that. But do

515
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: they have a hole?

516
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean McCary will probably be one of the starters,

517
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 3: or maybe he's the starter there, but they got to

518
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: line issues.

519
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: The Brian Burns trade. I like this one for the

520
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: Giants get Brian Burns in a twenty twenty four fifth

521
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Speaker 2: round draft pick which is one sixty six overall. The

522
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: Panthers get a twenty twenty four second round pick which

523
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Speaker 2: is thirty nine. They get a twenty twenty four fifth

524
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Speaker 2: round pick which is one forty one, and a twenty

525
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Speaker 2: twenty five fifth round pick. They got a D minus.

526
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Speaker 2: The Giants get an A plus. Yes, I love what

527
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Speaker 2: the Giants did.

528
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Speaker 3: They also had an extra second round pick for the

529
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Speaker 3: Leonard Williams trade to Seattle. It's not that they have

530
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Speaker 3: expers can just throw them around, but.

531
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Speaker 2: Nice good play is a good pick in this draft though.

532
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Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence in the middle and him and Thibodeaux coming

533
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Speaker 2: off the edge of me. That's a D line. What

534
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 2: else we got her defensive tackle? The Milite Collins trade.

535
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Speaker 2: I didn't see details on this one either. The San

536
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Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers get Elite Collins and the Houston

537
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Speaker 2: Texans get a twenty twenty four seventh round draft pick

538
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Speaker 2: two thirty two true salary. Yeah. B plus for the

539
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, a C plus for the Texans. Both

540
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 2: those teams are really active with their D line this offseason.

541
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Speaker 2: The Lagarious sneed trade. Yeah, this is another one where

542
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: they traded for a guy and then paid him. It

543
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: was four years, seventy six million dollars, I believe. Yeah.

544
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Speaker 2: Uh so the Titans get Lagarious Snead and a twenty

545
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Speaker 2: twenty four to seventh round pick. They don't list what

546
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: the seventh round picks get thrown in there. You know.

547
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Speaker 2: The Chiefs receive a twenty twenty four seventh round pick

548
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Speaker 2: and a twenty twenty five third round pick, which is

549
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Speaker 2: what they would have got.

550
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a compick. A compick except an early third

551
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: earlier end a third right.

552
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Speaker 2: And there's no guarantee. You get a compick if you

553
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: can't sign a bunch of guys year.

554
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Speaker 3: So I get it. I mean, they just invested in

555
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Speaker 3: Chris Jones. They've had a lot of success drafting defensive

556
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: backs lately, including sneed in developing. Yeah, I don't know

557
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 3: who their secondary coaches. We's doing a heck with job. So,

558
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 3: I mean I get it. But for a contender, maybe

559
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 3: one should have kept them and just let them walk.

560
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 2: Titans get an A minus. The chief get a C minus.

561
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: Titans have been active. Yeah, the Carlton Davis trade, the

562
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: Lions get Carlton Davis, a twenty twenty four to sixth

563
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 2: round pick which is two toh one and a twenty

564
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Speaker 2: twenty five sixth round pick. The Buccaneers get a twenty

565
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Speaker 2: twenty four third round pick, which is ninety two.

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I don't think they had long term

567
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: plans for Davis. Lions are in it to win it,

568
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 3: and corner was a big problem. And now they're without

569
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Speaker 3: Sutton and all of a sudden two. So and that

570
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Speaker 3: was before that precipitated. Yeah, Yeah, that was before the

571
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Speaker 3: Sutton stuff. So they probably still were in the market

572
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Speaker 3: for a corner, but would have been barren without this deal.

573
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they get a B the tight Buccaneers get a

574
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Speaker 2: B plus on that one. Gotcha. Okay, that's our final

575
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Speaker 2: that's it. That's our final trade. A lot of trades.

576
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Speaker 2: I better that on there, but there will be some

577
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Speaker 2: more coming here. Let's get to another break. He's Matt Williamson.

578
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio and on YouTube. You can watch us

580
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Speaker 2: on the Steelers channel. We are live here at the

581
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Speaker 2: NFL meetings in Orlando at the Rich Carlton And uh, well,

582
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Speaker 2: we'll be back with finish up the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

584
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

585
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back here at the NFL meetings here

587
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Speaker 2: in Orlando. Back. I just wanted to clarify one thing

588
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 2: here real quickly. There will be two games on Christmas

589
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Speaker 2: Day on that Wednesday. On that Wednesday, so you'll have

590
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Speaker 2: I would imagine what they'll do is have the four

591
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Speaker 2: teams that are involved, we'll play Saturday and then Flipps.

592
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Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, so there's a lot of

593
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Speaker 2: football that week. Yeah, fix, Mike there a little bit.

594
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, here there you are.

595
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Speaker 3: I assume we'll have Thursday games on the twenty six

596
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Speaker 3: too as usual. Probably, Yeah, probably talked about that, but

597
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Speaker 3: I yea, that's okay, right, Chris was travel Yeah, if

598
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Speaker 3: you're on the road, if you're one of those teams, right, yeah,

599
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: that Saturday is not great for you guys, or that

600
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Speaker 3: Wednesday or that Thursday.

601
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not so. Former NFL GM Mike Cannabaum put together

602
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Speaker 2: a mock Draftli BRUEs through that one. We're here real quick,

603
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: and just see how he views this this draft, upcoming

604
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Speaker 2: draft here this year. So he has the Bears taking

605
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, the Commander's taking Drake May, Okay, the Patriots

606
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 2: taking jayde and Daniels. And that's to me that sentence stone.

607
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Speaker 2: This draft starts at number three.

608
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Speaker 3: I think so too. I mean, I don't know what

609
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are going to go to, but I know one

610
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: will yeah, yeah.

611
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Speaker 2: I don't know that. The Patriots, however, will be drafting

612
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: in the three spot, right.

613
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Speaker 3: I don't think I would if I were that. I mean,

614
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Speaker 3: I don't think I would either. The chances that the

615
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 3: organization loves three guys is probably slim, but who knows,

616
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Speaker 3: maybe they do. I just think I would build O

617
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: line and receivers like crazy. Yeah, I don't want to

618
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 3: throw a third overall pick into that situation, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I agree with you. Yeah, I would agree

620
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Speaker 2: with you. At four, the Cardinals take JJ McCarthy. That

621
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense.

622
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: I assume he's not allowed to do trade, So maybe

623
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Speaker 3: McCarthy to go four.

624
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. At five, I better of the doubt there.

625
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: They're not going to drive a part. Five, the Chargers

626
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: take Joe Alt. I think that's more likely than a receiver.

627
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: At six, the Giants and take Malik Neighbors.

628
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: Okay, that's about as far as well. Maybe he could

629
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Speaker 3: follow a seven or eight with Alt off the board.

630
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: But Harrison didn't go yet, so.

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah. At seven he has the Titans

632
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 2: taking J. C. Latham.

633
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I can see that. I'm never one pigeon pol

634
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 3: Ault there, but he might not fall a seven. So

635
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 3: Harrison still hasn't gone yet in mister Ride, which I

636
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: bet he does.

637
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Speaker 2: At eight, the Falcons take Dallas Turner. If I'm the

638
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: Falcons and Harris, yeah, Harrison like put him with London

639
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: and Pits and those guys. Of course. Then he has

640
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: the Bears taking at nine Marvin Harrison June.

641
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Speaker 3: I'm sure they'd be quite happy about that. Sure we'll

642
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: get the ninth.

643
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Speaker 2: Okay, Mike, that's why he's a former Chang. Yeah, he's

644
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: not really the media savey type. It's ten. The Jets

645
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: then take a Fashanu.

646
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Speaker 3: Okay, if you were, then would you take for Shawn

647
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: who Bowers or a Dooonza in that in that situation,

648
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: I mean, they have two tackles, but they're old and scary. Yeah,

649
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: I mean I I would understand for Shawn. You don't

650
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: get me wrong. Bowers versus Dunday, though, I think is

651
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: an interesting it's an interesting conversation for them. Yeah, because

652
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 3: they have two receivers. But can you count on Mike

653
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: Williams for a whole year? And Day is really really

654
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: good and Williams.

655
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: Is only signing a one year deal, like right, right, right,

656
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: so you can use a third anyway. Okay, So he

657
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: does allow for mock drafts here or for trades because

658
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: he's got a projected trade here, he's still what the

659
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: Cardinals taken. He's got the Vikings. Maybe so the Cardinals

660
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: get pick number eleven. Oh, so that he had Minnesota

661
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: trade up for Macard. No, oh, he has the Cardinals

662
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: getting pick eleven, the Vikings getting Kyler Murray and pick

663
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: number sixty six.

664
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: It's okay, I mean it's an interesting way of looking

665
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: at things. I guess Murray could move. I mean, I

666
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: know there's a lot of dead.

667
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: Money, a lot of dead money involved.

668
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it'd be interesting in that dome playing with

669
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: Jefferson and those guys though, and then the Cardinals take

670
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: at eleven Quinya Mitchell.

671
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: Kind of well they could eat everything. Yeah. Yeah. At twelve,

672
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: chalkiest of chalk that Denver Broncos take bo Nicks.

673
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: Wow, that's becoming more and more of a thing. Yeah,

674
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: you beat me to it, but I've been stealing that

675
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: from myself too. I thought I was being unique, and

676
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 3: I forgot you had that the week before.

677
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: I think it fits h At thirteen, the Raiders take

678
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: to Lasi Fulaga. Yeah, right side o line to mess. Yeah.

679
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: At fourteen, tackles are falling no quick. The Saints finally

680
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: finally in the room at Dunezia the fallow away. He

681
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: take that far? Yeah, take a dune At fourteen.

682
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: I mean I would honestly be on the phone if

683
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: I were the Steelers if he was At twelve thirteen

684
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: still yeah, I mean you put him with pickings forget

685
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: about it.

686
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: At fifteen, the Colt stake Terry and Arnold. Yeah they

687
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: its Mold. I bet they like Mitchell better, just length.

688
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: At sixteen, the Seahawks take Troy Fatanu. They'll probably be

689
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: a guard for them, Yeah, which in a real good one. Seventeen,

690
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: the Jaguars take Brian Thomas. I think that's possible, but

691
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: they've invested a lot of receivers lately. They just seem

692
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: to keep gathering as many wide receivers as they can get.

693
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's I'd much rather have him than

694
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: Gave Davis. But he's sort of repetitive with Gabe Davis too,

695
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: you know. At eighteen, the Bengals take Amarius Mims. I

696
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: don't think they will play a tackle after signing one.

697
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: I know it's one year deal, one year deal, and

698
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: Mims he could be a guard for now. He's only

699
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: played the eight eight career starts. I mean you could,

700
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: you could give him some time to learn. He might

701
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: be the six zer linement as he learns or something

702
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: like that.

703
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe. At nineteen, the Rams take Michael Pennix.

704
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: Wow, I guess you could. I mean he would be

705
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: the third guy there. Yeah, but they need a young quarterback. Yeah,

706
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: they do need somebody that. I mean both their both

707
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: their guys are old. I mean that's six quarterbacks before

708
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: the Steelers pick. Yeah, that would be great, you'd love that.

709
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

710
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

711
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: At twenty, he has the Steelers taking at Donnie Mitchell. Maybe.

712
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand the highlight film the need. I mean,

713
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: if he's looking at the Steelers roster whenever he put

714
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: this out, probably a day or two ago, they were

715
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: really really lighted receiver and they're.

716
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: Still need a guy. Yeah.

717
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: I would not trade the twentieth pick for a Donnie

718
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: Mitchell right now. I don't think I would either. No,

719
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: here's what he has to say.

720
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: The Steelers have dramatically overhauled their quarterback position with Russell

721
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: Wilson and Justin Fields. They also but they also recently

722
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: traded Deontae Johnson and could use a standout receiver opposite

723
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: George Pickens. Mitchell had a standout season at Texas after

724
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: transferring from Georgia, averaging fifteen point four yards per catches,

725
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: scoring eleven touchdowns. He can fly at six two, running

726
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: a four to three fourth at the combine. And I

727
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: really like this fit.

728
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: I get it, and I don't dislike the fit. I

729
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: just think it's a little early for him, so especially

730
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: with so many other wise way you could get.

731
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: In round two.

732
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: Just looked at his highlight film, you would great think

733
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: he might be best the best player in the draft.

734
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of routes. I'm not saying he's

735
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: like lazy or anything like that, but he just kind

736
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: of jogs through him and I don't know how he's

737
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: being coach Like I he's a hard guy to scout,

738
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: not being able to sit down with his coaches, the

739
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: people around him at Texas and the young man.

740
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, you know what's the deal here? You know? Yeah,

741
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: that's why I didn't have him in my top five.

742
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: He was fifth for me, but he seems to be

743
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: pushing Tom. He'd be at six or seven for me

744
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: just because of that. Who was your five? Mconkeye McConkey, Okay.

745
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: At twenty one, Jackson powers Johnson to who Miami? Maam, Yeah,

746
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: that's a good fit. He wouldn't be a center for

747
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: them though. At twenty two we finally see brock Bowers.

748
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: Go see if I just if brock Bowers were available

749
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: at twenty, I'm taking him movie. I would have a

750
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: faver album with the Steelers because he's a wide receiver.

751
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah that's where you have a big slot. Yeah yeah,

752
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: make him hard to play against. Yeah, he would never

753
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: fall that far.

754
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: No. At twenty three, Minnesota takes Johnny Newton and they

755
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: end up with Kyler Murray before Kyler Murray and Johnny

756
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: Newton coming out of this draft. Okay, d tackle is

757
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: an issue for them. At twenty four, the Cowboys take

758
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: Byron Murphy.

759
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: That's not terrible, but they went de tackle. What much

760
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: different type last year? And I think o line is

761
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: they're a major need. Yeah, they have spots all over

762
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: the line.

763
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Packers take Tyler Geydon. Be fine,

764
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: you can develop them a little bit and he doesn't

765
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: have to play right now. Yeah. Twenty six, the Buccaneers

766
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: take Cooper Dejeen. I don't think Dyden gets past the Cowboy.

767
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't think he does. He said that the other day. Yeah,

768
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: Degene to who Tampa Bay. Okay, we talked about last night,

769
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: but they traded Davis. Yeah. Twenty seven, the Cardinals again

770
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: take lab Mconkie. Yeah, that would be a good fit. Yeah,

771
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: that'd be six receiver off the board. Yeah. Right. At

772
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: twenty eight the Bills taking Savior. You're worthy. It's fine.

773
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean they just kind of gave Davis like yeah, I.

774
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: Mean think they could use it. Take the top off guy.

775
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Samuel is a different type that they signed.

776
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: That'd be fine with it.

777
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Twenty nine, the Lions take lay to the Edge out

778
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: of UCLA.

779
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: I think that's a great pick for them, and they

780
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: don't even develop them. They want to plug him in

781
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: right now and be the guy opposite Hutchinson.

782
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. At thirty the Ravens take Jared Verse.

783
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean that's a pretty good value at thirty Yeah. Right,

784
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate one bit. I don't see

785
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: him falling that far. At thirty one his.

786
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: Edges really fall, Yeah, because Chop didn't even get picked yet. Right,

787
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: thirty one, the forty nine ers take Braydon Fisk. I

788
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 2: don't think that's pretty early. They also just traded from MALIEK. Collins.

789
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think that's what he short arms.

790
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. They're more trades based and they have a great

791
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: dline coad. Yeah. I mean he's got he's got some traits.

792
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 3: He does something speed and get off athleticism, but right right,

793
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't see that fit.

794
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: And at thirty the Chiefs take Jordan Morgan. The offensive

795
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: tackle out of Arizona.

796
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: Could be I mean guards, not indeed, tackle is he

797
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: could be one or the other. Yeah, tackle is a

798
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: problem for them, right, that is a huge problem for

799
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: them in a draft like this. If you're a team

800
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: like the Chiefs super Bowl champs, and you can get

801
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: a tackle for five years cost controlled instead of going

802
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: out and buying a Donovan Smith or a Taylor like

803
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: they did last Yeah, that's a lot more financial.

804
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: A lot of money. And yeah, you know, for a

805
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: team that has some money, they're spending money elsewhere now.

806
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: Of course, of course I didn't love that draft. No,

807
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: I didn't like anything about it.

808
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: But there were some interesting things like could Kyler get traded?

809
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: I've never heard anybody say that. I mean, that's interesting.

810
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: We've talked about this a lot when we've done our marks,

811
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 2: like Rock Bowers could go on a lot of different spots.

812
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: He could, But I mean, could the Saints and Colts

813
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: and teams like that pass on him? Real tough? I

814
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: bet Sean McVay would do stuff with them. Yeah, I'm

815
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: just thinking the teams right before the Steelers. The Bengals

816
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: don't feature the tight end. But if he's sitting there

817
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: at eighteen, but you.

818
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: Just look at him as a receiver, right, OK, probably.

819
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: Gonna lose Higgins. Just get him pass catchers, you know.

820
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: Burrow figured out right. Yeah, I don't see Bowers. I

821
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: think you go to the Jets, had I didn't. That's my

822
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: that's my spot.

823
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

824
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: I used to think the Bears are in play, but

825
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: they have Comet and they signed Everett. Yeah, and they

826
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: also have Keenan Allen. I mean, so I could see

827
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: think of the receiver, but the Powers.

828
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I mean there's some interesting views on that.

829
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 2: And the Cayler Murray trade is interesting.

830
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I don't agree with his

831
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: mock and I don't think there's a very good chance

832
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: that he's close, to be very honest with you, but

833
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: I do like hearing I never thought of that fit

834
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 3: with that team and things like that, which is kind

835
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: of cool. It's just something different, it is. It's something different.

836
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: And well, that's a wrap, Jack, You know, Matt, We're

837
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: gonna come back and do this again tomorrow, our last

838
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: day here in Orlando, so that'll be the last drive

839
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 2: of the week. That'll be the last drive of the week.

840
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: We'll kind of wrap up the entire week in tomorrow's

841
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: show and talk about a little bit about everything that

842
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: has happened here this week, and maybe we'll do a

843
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: little mock draft tomorrow as well. Yeah, we haven't done

844
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: one of those, and it is time to start gauging

845
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: in our gearing, zeroing in on the on the draft again,

846
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: especially after I bet this place would be called signing

847
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: just by tomorrow, right or three agreements that the Steelers

848
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: came to yesterday kind of closes the door, maybe except

849
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: for less Yeah, except at center. There's still that. But

850
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: again I think you know, until you know what's happening

851
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: with Connor Williams, you're kind of stuck. But uh, that's

852
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: gonna do it for today's sure. Yeah. So for my

853
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 2: partner Matt Williamson, for Gerard Schaeffer here on site making

854
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: sure we get our pretty faces on YouTube, and for

855
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: just back in Pittsburgh keeping us on the air here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. I'm Dale Lolly, and we appreciate

857
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