1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daley, brought to 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: you by Badley Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on eight 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your host Bow Bishop and 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. Oh, let's do alive on a Tuesday edition 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: merely Bow the Great Sea. I'm back, baby, Oh baby, 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: I am back. How'd you do? How'd you do down there? 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: You great Florida? Great time? You like to santis, you're 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: king of Florida. That's the last couple of weeks running 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: things down there. I wasn't running anything, but I was 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: having a great time um in Lauderdale. It was awesome. 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: Shout out to my boy the cook for sending it 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: all up. But yeah, we had a great time. Great 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: great weather was not great as it which is it 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: downer right with Florida, Like, yeah, it's tough like that 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: gale force win and it was kind of wild. One 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: of the days to basically Saturday Sunday, We're not great. 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: We got some sun yesterday, I was down Thursday had 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: beautiful weather Thursday and Friday. Did you play right? Went no? Right? 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: When Miss Kay came in it didn't the weather. It 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: was just like nah, and all she wanted was the sun. 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: We had some unbelievable meals. Uh, we had great. It 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: was great. So your you had a Thursday night footloose 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: and fancy free in South Florida straight to South Beach 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: where you did not No, I am. It's funny. I 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: was talking to to Miss Cay about it. But for me, 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: going down to South Florida is almost like being here 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: because the majority of the people that I know in Cleveland, 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: we're in South Florida because they have places in South 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: was there also. I got down there and all of 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: a sudden it was like here. Yeah. So I ended 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: up getting dinner with one of my buddies and just 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: kind of like it was kind of like low key 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: because I could have gone. I had an opportunity to go. 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: I think a little wild if I but I about 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: a forty minute drive and I was like, too much, 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. There's a great there's a comedian 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: who does a bit on New Math that also does 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: a bit that I just saw this week, which is 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: very funny. If you have kids, the new Math they teach, 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: it's absolutely perfect. He had a bit that it's ridiculous. 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: By the way, I was as complete. Yeah, I wasn't, 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: and I just he has a great line in it, 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: and he's like and you're watching him do it, and 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: you're like, wait a second, no, that just do that. 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: That's old math. Just do that drop downs it. It's 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: a great bit. But I was, ah, there, he is 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: the legend. There's special occasion only. He can't every day, 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: not every day special, very special, combine combine only, special 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: only spec I asked him. I want you to know 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: that I reached out to him and I said, just 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: a Tuesday, here's my big question. Yeah, what's with the 53 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: little the tab on the back of the sweatshirt inside? Yeah, well, 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked. No one did not have an answer, 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: I do you guys. So it's what is it? No 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: no stitch or every every stitch accounted for something like that. 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: So it was kind of like, you know how Nike 58 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: did collapse with Off White. So this was Nike's collab 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: to try to make give themselves like a fashion line 60 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: of clothing, and this was the hoodie from that line 61 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: that like is in the France runway shows and fashion 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: week and stuff. So it's like they're like super duper absurd. 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah for a hoodie that's with nothing on it. By 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: the way, that that was sold as a plane. If 65 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: you will look tag, it will say made in Milan, 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: made in Milan. Yeah, it's made in Italy as opposed 67 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: to the rest normally. So it's like, not only is it. 68 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: My hunch on what the functionality of the strap is 69 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: is that it pulled like, it doesn't creep up on creeps, 70 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: you can pull it back. It is not something that 71 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: is needed in any way. But I think that's my 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: hunch of what it. The functional part of it is, 73 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: um to your point on the forty minute drive. So 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: the bit is when you're in your twenties, anyone can 75 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: call you at any moment and you will go out, 76 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: say when where what do I need to do? I 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: need to get sell my house. Fine, I'll see, I'll 78 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: be there. Where we're going? What are we doing in 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: the thirties, It's like, I think I'm gonna take my 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: own car. Yeah, and I think I'm gonna take my 81 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: own car here. Once you get to have my life, 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: I can leave if I want. And by the time 83 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: we get to the fourties, it's yeah, I'm good. I'm good. 84 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna I'm not going forty five 85 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: minutes for anything. So I it actually happened twice in 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: one weekend. To the point of that I knew a 87 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: lot of people down South floor, so I was not 88 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: alone in any way, shape or form. On Sunday night 89 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: to our great friends Stephen Miley, who we love dearly. 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: They flew in and they live up in Jupiter. So 91 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: we were going to meet in del Ray, which is 92 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: about forty forty five for each of us, um coming 93 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: from Lauderdale and then from from Jupiter, and we went 94 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: to on Sunday, and I would wreck most if you 95 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: go down to uh if you're in Lauderda Luno, which 96 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: is like right on the beach. I think it's in 97 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: the in the weston UM. They have a forty nine 98 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: person Sunday bottomless brunch that feels like a win. That 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: is all you can eat tacos, They had pastor on 100 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: the spit, all you can, all you can drink margarite 101 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: is Bloody Mary's, mimosas whatever, fantastic within a two hour 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: you have a two hour clock. Well they can't have 103 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: you there all day. Yeah, two hours so we did 104 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: that Sunday with my buddy nation his wife, who are 105 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: down there, and I was I was toast, I'm just 106 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: and we were just like, look, there's no way that 107 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: we can go anywhere. In fact, we got that last 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: night we got deliver delivery food and just chilled. And 109 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: the night before a couple of nights before we had 110 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: great meals. But I always it's funny you say that. 111 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I always thought how this Having a couple of years ago, 112 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: I was always in the point. I was like, man, 113 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: I always sleep well when I hear the ocean, like 114 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: anytime we're on vacation at a beach. I think, well, 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: a lot of it's probably the state of mind that 116 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: you're in, obviously your chill whatever. Um. So then I 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: started putting it on an app on my phone and 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: I use it and I've used it for the last 119 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: couple of years to sleep. I'm out within five minutes. 120 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: K does that too. She likes waves and she likes rain. Yeah, 121 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: I go it, mineus waves in campfire. Okay. I had 122 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: the app for when I'm on the road, but I 123 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: bought a little machine. There you go, there you go. 124 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: It's it. It's it's gotta go hey from the in 125 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: the category I believe we had that we set the 126 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: over under on Pro Bowl ratings at six point one million. 127 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: It's what we set it at. That was the over under. 128 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Did you see the actual Pro Bowl? I guess that 129 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: it was six point zero six point two six nailed it. Yeah, 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: so six point seven million last it's all there, six 131 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: point seven million last year in a game it was 132 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: down to six point two. I don't know how it's 133 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: viewed as anything other than a wild success. The six 134 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: point two million people watched flag football interspers with skills 135 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: every half hour, like six point two million people. Just 136 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: for some perspective. So the Thursday night thing did just 137 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: over one million on on on ESPN and all of that, 138 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: which was they was beaten by the NBA. But one 139 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: of the highest rateed NBA game last Thursday was a 140 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: Lakers game late Thursday night. It did like one point 141 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: six or one point seven million. That's an actual game 142 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: that matters in the association, featuring its biggest star, and 143 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: it did one point six one point seven million. It's 144 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: a flag football game. Wasn't no. Well, the basketball did 145 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: beat the Thursday thing, but I'm saying like one point 146 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: six million people watching an NBA regular season game six 147 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: point to watch the flag football game. So if you 148 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: add up all the rings of all the days past 149 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: seven point two, because because it was one little over 150 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: one on Thursday and then six point once it was, 151 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: it would have been over seven if you added the 152 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: two days. By the way, A couple of things, but 153 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things that came out of that 154 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: and I I I too didn't watch a little bit. 155 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: I saw, you know that the a f C outsmart 156 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: the NFC on the thing where they had to pull 157 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: the weights off the sled and then get it going. 158 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: I thought that was very good. Joel and Wyatt. Joel 159 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: was a star, a surprise of nobody. Nobody, Um, obviously 160 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Hope Miles is okay. But I love that he tweeted 161 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: it this morning. Yeah, at the end of the game, 162 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: have you seen the audio of Peyton, He's not pleased. Well, 163 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: they're not allowed to run the ball. We live in 164 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: a society that the rule is you cannot run. Taking 165 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: a knee is running. It's a running play. Yeah. It's 166 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: kind of like with the third grade officials when they 167 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: were like, well, what type of defense do you want 168 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: them to play? And I said one that's legal in 169 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: the sport. Here are they they can play play one 170 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: of these, So I gotta throw it, Yeah, you gotta 171 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: sling it. Yeah. That's great though, because he was legit hot. Well, 172 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: I think losing the ELI is tougher. Makes him so 173 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: mad because you, you're Peyton Manning. You have the same 174 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: amount of Super Bowls as him, and he twice vanquished 175 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: your greatest adversary. So that's even though you're everybody knows 176 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: you're better, you're his his Hall of Fame. Uh. The 177 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: present presenter was Bob Kravitz. Is his name, the guy 178 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: at the He used to be at the Indie Star 179 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: and now he's at a television station, might be at 180 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: the Athletic now. Um. And his entire presentation for Peyton 181 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: Manning the Hall of Fame is it's Peyton Manning and 182 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: he sat down and that's it. Like that's him. And 183 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: yet your little brother, who's less than you in every 184 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: single way, kind of has that thing on you and 185 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: that he was great in two runs to the Super Bowl. 186 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: He was superb in both super Bowl games, and he 187 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: beat your greatest nemesis twice in the Super Bowl. Like 188 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: he has more memorable Super Bowls by far. Oh yeah, 189 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: and the same amount total total. Yeah, it's wild. It 190 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: was funny. Yeah, I think it is for Peyton. I 191 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: think it's a little personal well, and the FC had 192 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: been dominating everything leading up to it, but somehow came 193 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: up on the short end because of that last flag 194 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: football game. Um real quick, ye. I had one of 195 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: the great meals of my life when we around this 196 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: trip all right place called Takato, which was at our hotel. 197 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: By the way, our hotel is also the official hotel 198 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: of the NHL All Star Game, which I did not 199 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: realize was in Fort Lauderdale this past weekend. By the 200 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: looks of the crowd, I'm not sure they did either. Yeah, 201 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that there were a lot of people 202 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: around our hotel though it was buzzing. I ran into 203 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who play in the NHL. Had 204 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: no idea obviously who they were. Sidney Crosby I did 205 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: not see. He was maybe the only one I'd recognized 206 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: because he was on the post. You would recognize Alexander 207 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: of Etchkin. Does he like played for the Capital's back 208 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: still does the second goal scored? Okay, he might catch Gretzky, 209 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: I'd recognize him. Um, but it was it was a 210 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: big thing anyway that was going on in our hotel. 211 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: But our hotel also had this restaurant, Tokato, and it 212 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: is maybe my favorite way to eat is kind of 213 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: Asian fusion tapas. I don't know that I could like 214 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: it any more. This place had a little stuff just 215 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: coming your way. So we had little Taste Halloween, you know, 216 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, some of the standard things, a little tune 217 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: on crispy rice, delightful, but then they hit us with 218 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: um the best thing, the best thing I've ever had 219 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: was a duck bow bun. I don't even know what 220 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: it was, a fresh bow bun taco shell basically that 221 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: was so pillowy and delightful, and then inside had duck 222 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: in this unbelievable so it was just it was one 223 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: of the best things I've ever eaten. I got one 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: for dessert as well, Like I said, fine, you want, fine, 225 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: I'll get one for dessert. I had that. They had 226 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: a short rib kim chee taco that was unreal, and 227 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: then wag you gios out that were perfectly steamed with 228 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: just the bottom crispy and they were sublime. But you 229 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: could have if we we just basically ordered everything on 230 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: the top half of the many, but the bottom half 231 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: had like they had a five wag you, they had 232 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: sea bass, they you could get anything you wanted basically 233 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: at this place. And then they had all this fun 234 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: stuff and they had all sushi menu too. I think 235 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: that is something that we we don't do enough of, 236 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: is that is stay in the top half and have 237 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of little fun things. Can I do that 238 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: a lot? We'll do that in some good choice. Sometimes 239 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: we end up not getting an Andre at all, or 240 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: sometimes we'll just end up splitting one entree. But in 241 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: this case, Nary and Andre was ordered. It was about 242 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: eight individual little plates. Just an absolute delight. Yeah, well 243 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: that's fantastic. The number back to the number for a second. 244 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: This validates all of it to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, 245 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: so this is what it's gonna look like. It'll look 246 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: like this. I'll tell you what I thought. It was 247 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: fun the things that I watched, Yeah, I was entertained 248 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: by You get to see their personalities, which is fun. 249 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: Nobody was really at risk. It didn't feel like which 250 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: was good. I will say that the trying to turn 251 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: the amazing catch into the dunk contest doesn't work. The 252 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: amazing catch was the biggest fail. It was like the 253 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: stage nonsense, because just that was an embarrassing Michael Vick 254 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: couldn't throw the ball. I thought they wanted him to. Well, 255 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: neither could Liner or Clawson. And then they had the 256 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: terrible The golf thing was terrible too. They had four 257 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: guys who didn't know how to play, who had never 258 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: played golf before. He did it a bomb, but like 259 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: it took. That was that was awful, And you have 260 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: to have the other thing I would say is you 261 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: need a master of ceremonies who is funny to oversee 262 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: all of it like you can have like McAfee should 263 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: have been the color guy to somebody's a guy who 264 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: was setting him up. Yeah, he was more. He was 265 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: played by play. And then because Herbie you didn't they 266 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: brought nothing. Why was he there? I have no clue. 267 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't have any idea. Maybe the trip to Vegas, 268 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean for him, so he got paid handsibly treat 269 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: for him. He got really taken. Putting some bay. I 270 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: feel like he's been putting. He has not been putting 271 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: spots that accentuate his strengths this year. No, but the 272 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: checks are cashing, The checks are checks are everything, but 273 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: your point, Like the NHL, YEP had its All Star 274 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: weekend going on the very same weekend. Nothing. If I 275 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: didn't stay in a hotel there was literally plaster with everything. 276 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: Is that NHL All Star We I would have had 277 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: no idea, and even being there, it didn't compel me 278 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: to watch any of their coverage or anything like that. 279 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: The NHL is to the extreme of where baseball is headed, 280 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: where they are sports that were once part of a 281 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Big Four that are now sports that you only care 282 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: about if you are in the market. There's no crossover 283 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: market to market region nothing. If you have a team 284 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: in your city, there is a section of people who 285 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: care about it vehemently. But if you do not, then 286 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: you don't and there's no caring about another team in 287 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: another market. Um if and then this isn't some outlanding 288 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: statement like this is the fact. That's what a radio 289 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: and you just follow it Like baseball hockey, it's just 290 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: hockey was a much bigger deal. When we were young, 291 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: it felt like anyway it was well, we weren't inundated 292 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: with so much stuff, so there were four things that 293 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: you paid attention to in sports, and then you paid 294 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: attention to the Olympics. UM, and that's yeah. But even 295 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: that I don't remember until ninety four, I don't remember, 296 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: like the World Cup, I haven't point a read. I 297 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: would say was the one was that the one in 298 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: the US was in the U S. That's the first 299 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: one that I remember watching was that, UM, the Major's 300 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know that it was like I don't remember, 301 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: like people boxing was huge, but in terms of like 302 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: a daily something something you cared about daily. And you 303 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: have to also remember that our view of sport was 304 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: viewed through Sports Illustrated, Sport magazine and Sports Center, and 305 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: so they covered those things. They covered football, basketball, hockey, 306 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: and baseball. And while Madden was a big video game 307 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: when we were younger, it wasn't like now the behemoth 308 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: that it is. And the NHL games were great, and 309 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people our age knew, like 310 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: I knew that I could name maybe fifty people that 311 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: were in NHLPA whatever it was, and name Sidney Crosby. 312 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: And you just said today, So I think you're right, 313 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: good point. I think nine nine those NHL games on 314 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: Sega were similar to what happened with soccer with the 315 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: FIFA Games in the early two thousand's, where those games 316 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: were windows into a sport, and then you start following 317 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: because the games were so much fun to play, and 318 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: you're right, Like, there's tech Mo Bowls, which, by the way, 319 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: people even homage my guys at homage mess this up today. 320 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: They were saying, you know, we gotta do tech Mobile 321 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: and it's like, actually, super tech Mobwl is the one 322 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: that you want. Every team, everybody, every teams in Super Technobowl. 323 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: There's only eight teams. Yeah, there's no teams in it, like, 324 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: and there's only four plays. The other one has eight plays. 325 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: The other one accumulated stats over the course of the year. 326 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: The one year one is Super Technobowl. Bose in both 327 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: bo Jackson's and both super but super tech Mobowl is 328 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: the one that you want to play. It's like in 329 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Kong compared to It's such a game change. Super tech 330 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: Mobile and highly underrated, didn't get enough pub But one 331 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: of my favorite games Techmo Basketball. Techno Basketball was amazing. 332 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: Every player was awesome. Yeah, well that that well, so 333 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: you were used to playing double dribble, then all of 334 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: a sudden technical basketball and went, oh my gosh, I 335 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: can play Jordan's I can mark Price on the Calves 336 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: who never missed. For many, it was a great game. 337 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: Was when they got into what was it like, what 338 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: was the first one Lakers were Celtics, the first e 339 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: a one Jordan versus bird That was like the one 340 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: PC game. There was the first when they got the 341 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: point that it might have been like Bulls Blazers, that 342 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: one whatever one where Tom Chambers could double pump from 343 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: the three point line and dunk on everybody. He's the 344 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: greatest thing. That's techno basketball, super basketball game. Because I 345 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: never had that, because I had I was at Segas. 346 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: It was just oh no, no, it did go. Yeah, 347 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: there was one that happened. There was an NBA one 348 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: that happened on the Sega Genesis. I think, well certainly 349 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: jam was it now now it was a five on 350 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: five game. Yeah, double dribbles, double dribbles. Great, Yeah, I 351 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: mean that's right now for the NHL. For me, it's 352 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: the playoffs. It was in. It was in yeah, all right, 353 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: And that's only if you can like that's one of 354 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: those things that you gotta get on at the right time. 355 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: You know Tom Chambers signature dunk. It was in Lakers 356 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: versus Celtics e as, the first game in e A's 357 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: NBA playoff series of four runners of NBA Live. Lakers 358 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: versus Celtics had signature moves for very star players. Kream 359 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: had the Skyho Jordan had the Jordan Jam. Chambers dunk 360 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 1: was the most deadly weapon in the game. He may 361 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: not be mentioned all that off in these days, but 362 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: le's good basketball games will definitely remember Tom Chambers for 363 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: his aerial. He would what year was this, like what 364 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: years the game? I mean, that's what the game looks like. 365 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: We're talking. We're talking like ninth early and he would 366 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: go for me, yeah, woom from anywhere, from anywhere. He 367 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: was won the m v P of the All Star 368 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: Game in like eighty seven playing for the Sonics. It 369 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: was Sonics. This may have been the Sun's Tom Chambers. 370 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: He went to the Suns after he was with the Sonics. Yeah, 371 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: that's that seems to be about right. Um it is. 372 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: By the way, yesterday was Super Bowl media Day, so 373 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: we'll have a little fun recollecting. I've been to several 374 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: of those. It's an absolute circus. Um. Well, We'll get 375 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: into that a little bit as the show goes along. 376 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: Did you forget to give me a year on it 377 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one for the Sega Genesis. Yeah, okay, there 378 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: you go. Um, We've got a positional breakdown the linebacker position, 379 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of higher, lower, better or worse as well. 380 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: Before we get to all that, though, Brown's fans today 381 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: through midnight on Thursday had to NFL dot Com slash FedEx, 382 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: NFL's official Twitter handle for the NFL mobile app to 383 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: catch your vote for Nick Chubbs, a FedEx Ground Player 384 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: of the Year. The two thousand FedEx eron Ground NFL 385 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: Players the Year will be announced during the NFL Honors 386 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: on February ninth. We're often running here. Cleveland Brown's Daily 387 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: brought to by Allie Bette, Coming soon to Ohio on 388 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to you 389 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: by Bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty 390 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. All right, welcome, I get to Cleveland Browns Daily, 391 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: brought to you by Bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio 392 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Uh, please to be joined 393 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: in studio Office of Quality control quote Ashton Grant in 394 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: studio with us. In two two, Bill Willis diversity coaching 395 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: fellow Israel Wolffork in studio with us as well. Gentlemen, 396 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time. Israel, Let's 397 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: start with you, because when I see Bill Willis's name 398 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: in front of anything, I'd certainly take notice. What is 399 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: that meant to you? To have that position, to understand 400 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: the full scope of everything Mr Willis represented and the 401 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: opportunity that's that's been here for you this year, It's 402 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: been a blessing and the unique opportunity. Um when I 403 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: got this job, we got to meet the Willis his 404 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: sons this year at the Hall of Fame when we 405 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: went down in her practice, and I was just eye 406 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: opening experience. And I didn't know too much about the 407 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: Forgotten for before I came to Cleveland, So hearing them 408 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: talking to them the backstory about their journey to the 409 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: NFL and what they had to endure and the different 410 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: things they had to overcome, was was really amazing. And 411 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: I'm glad to represent him and his family and his 412 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: legacy that he's had with the Cleveland Browns and not bad. 413 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh and Ben Bill Willis. Good. Yeah, good, And 414 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: I appreciate uh Andrew Berry that has on j W 415 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: and Um obviously coach sa Fanski for let me get 416 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: these opportunities and that them bringing me here. So it's 417 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: been been an awesome eighteen months get to work for 418 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. It certainly hasn't. Ashton, You've been here 419 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: for a while as well, joined the team in is 420 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: the first recipient of the Bill Willis Coaching Fellowship. You've 421 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: been here for a while now, as we said, going 422 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: into what this will be your fourth season here, undefeated 423 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: in these games. Not that something Sorry, sorry about that, 424 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: but you guys both here. You guys got back from 425 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. What was that kind of experience like 426 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: for you were at the Shrine Game last year, but 427 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: to get to go to the Senior Bowl down in 428 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: Mobile and then come out with a dove over your 429 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: body here, I think just getting a head start on 430 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: this evaluation process is awesome and you get a different 431 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: insight that you normally wouldn't get because you get to 432 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: go into the meeting rooms with the guys. You get 433 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: to see how they learn what's best for them and 434 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: then how do they apply what they learn in the 435 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: meeting rooms to the field, so you get like a 436 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: different type of scope. By no one scouts go and 437 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: visit guys in the fall. They're only allowed to watch 438 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: the games and then after the senior Bowl game is 439 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: just a bunch of T shirt workouts. So to see 440 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: them play their last live football game and represent their 441 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: colleges for the last time is a pretty unique experience. 442 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: What is that like? Just from a I mean, you 443 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: think about how wild this process is when it comes 444 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: to identifying players that you're going to draft or whether 445 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: it be through free agency or whatnot. It's a process. 446 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: It starts months and months and events are scouting your apartment. 447 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: But now you're getting now we're into that season right 448 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: combined at the end of the month. Um, you've got 449 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: guys who are trying to make their name, trying to 450 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: get noticed. Um, how do you what did you see 451 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: from approach standpoint, and you've done it a couple of times, 452 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: what are some things that you look for right away? Uh? 453 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: In terms of nothing specific, in terms don't give any 454 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: given any how serious, but just in terms of like 455 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: things that you're interested in from an approach standpoint from 456 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: a prospect, Well, I want to see first how important 457 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: the game of football is to them, because the senior 458 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: game stuff, it's invite but it's voluntary for them. They're 459 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: not getting paid, but they're just trying to go out 460 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: and put their best foot forward and showcase what they 461 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: can do for all thirty two teams. So one, I 462 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: want to see how important football is to them. And secondly, 463 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: what I want to see is how can they do 464 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: in that type of environment. I mean, they're up at 465 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: five in the morning, they're doing interviews with all thirty 466 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: two teams or jam packing and install with them. So 467 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: how can they overcome adversity how quickly and they learn 468 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: and actually go onto the field and mess it all together. 469 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: So it's a jam packed a couple of days, and 470 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: we just want to see how they respond to that 471 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: type of stuff. You played receiver in college, right, Yes, 472 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: you played receiver in college as well. You worked with 473 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: the receivers, you worked at the quarterbacks here at this one. No, 474 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: maybe the Browns are looking at the receivers. You never 475 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: happen as receivers yourselves. What do you look for in 476 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: somebody that's going to make it to this level and 477 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: then excel at this level? As a Cleveland Brown. I 478 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: think first it starts so just being a competitor. I 479 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: think if you don't like to compete, I think you 480 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: get exploded. In the NFL, I think this is the 481 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: best of the best and one percent of the world 482 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: and athletes. So obviously competition is one And just like 483 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: what does that mean to you to be a competitor? 484 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: Like what is that? How do they how do they 485 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: communicate that to you? Is it like they how much 486 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: they hate losing? Is it you know? I think it's 487 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: it's all the above. Obviously. You can tell someone likes 488 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: to compete if they like to hop up and drills. 489 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: You can tell someone likes to compete if they take 490 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: extra time learning offense. You can tell someone likes to 491 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: compete if they make a mistake that back the next 492 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 1: day trying to correct it. Just everything is important to him, 493 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: in the little details of what it takes to be 494 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: a great player. I think that that's a competitor to me. 495 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: When things aren't looking good, they don't make excuses. They 496 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: find a way to make it work. When they don't 497 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: feel good, when the play is not exactly the way 498 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: we're drawing up to have success against and they find 499 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: a way to make it work. I think that's a 500 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: competitor in my eyes. And what would I think it's 501 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: doubling down on is he said that? And then just 502 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: the ability to create separation. How do you get open? 503 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: Can you do it at the line of scrimmage? Can 504 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: you do it at the top of the route? So 505 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: I think those are the two things you want. You 506 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: want a dog out there, a guy who can win 507 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: on third down when the games on the line. And 508 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: you want a guy who can get open who you 509 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: can trust because sometimes the scheme doesn't always work. We 510 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: know the league is about scheme, but it's also about players. 511 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: So I need a guy who can who can win. 512 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: And then they gotta catch it right, right, But there 513 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of it. There have been guys who 514 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: have made the suff because they have unbelievable gifts and 515 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: then unfortunately they just don't catch the ball. Well, that's 516 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: the hard I would think that's a really hard thing. 517 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: And it's such an exact science because, um, this is 518 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: the time of year where you fall in love with measurables, right, 519 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: and so how do you balance measurables with tape? Yeah? 520 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: I think for me, like catching the ball is a prerecresient, 521 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: and what weighs the most is what they put on 522 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: game tape. I was with Patrick Graham, he was our 523 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: head coach down at the Senior Bowl, and he over 524 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: emphasized to those guys, like, what you put on tape 525 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: is your resume at this point. At this point is 526 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: just interviews. But who you are is what you've done 527 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: on the football field, and that's what's going to weigh 528 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: the heaviest. So that's why the Senior Bowl is so 529 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: important because again, it's not a test in T shirts 530 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: and shorts to test with a helmet on. The bullets 531 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: are flying and we're trying to win. So I think 532 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: that's how we look at it as coaches. So it's 533 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: just like an outside observer. One of the things that 534 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: I love about the Senior Bowl and when they show 535 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: the practice there's a ton of one on ones, Like 536 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: a ton of one on ones. You're both smiling. I 537 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: wish there were more one on ones in training camp. 538 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's fun when the Eagles came to town 539 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: and you do, like I love that talk about seeing 540 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: if guys compete. You see it one on ones, you see, Okay, 541 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: maybe this guy doesn't run fast, honest, but he's constantly 542 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: getting past everybody. You know, you can see those things. 543 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Do you What do you guys think about one on 544 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: ones just in general? Is it a safety thing that 545 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: we don't do more one on ones? Because I love it, 546 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: Like that's what I get the most excited for the 547 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: day in camp when they put pads on, they do 548 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: real one on ones. I love that stuff. We do 549 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: a good job. I think of getting one on ones 550 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: and practice situations. You may not have just one individual 551 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: against one individual, but we may rep like it's gonna 552 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: be a heavy man period, and that's where you kind 553 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: of get your one ones built into what we're doing. 554 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: So I think Kevin does a really good job with 555 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: just position those things and practice while we continue to 556 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: develop on the rest of the game. Do love watching 557 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: those though, I mean you're with the quarterbacks. I'm sure 558 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks love it. Then it's like you can evaluate 559 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: where they can put the ball. Can they throw a 560 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: guy open if he doesn't create separation himself? Like I 561 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: like that stuff. Yeah, I was just gonna say the 562 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: reason I love one on ones is because you get 563 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: to test these players and fire when it's one on one, 564 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: just like everybody in this at M is looking at 565 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: two guys as Mono Imano. And so now when I 566 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: get to the games on Sunday, I've seen this guy 567 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: win before, you know, with all eyes on him when 568 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: the balls coming in his way. So that's why I 569 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: like repping it as much as possible. Yeah, I think 570 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: I think sometimes why it's why you love the one 571 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: on ones. You love the compete, you love the tape, 572 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: you love all of that, and then the combine happens, 573 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: and it's sometimes it feels like it's all thrown out 574 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: the damn window. We were doing the show I'll never 575 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: forget this and DK metcalf is like doing a bunch 576 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: of he did the bench and did a thousand or 577 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: something like that was but he just walked by and 578 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: you just went, my god, that's a dude. I don't 579 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: know what that's the don't let's not overthink it. And 580 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: then he ran a cone drill and they were like, oh, 581 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: he's slower than Tom Brady and the cone and I 582 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: remember thinking we were doing the show live, I'm like, 583 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: who the hell is gonna ever have him run a 584 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: cone in a game? Right? Like? Can you stop him 585 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: going straight, No, you can't. So how does that happen? 586 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: How did something where somebody who played at the highest 587 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: level and just use himse he's not Brown, just a 588 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: guy in the league who played at the highest level 589 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: in the SEC against the best corners physically has everything. 590 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: But then we and was dominant, and then we it 591 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: gets overthought up. I think it's recencly bias. It's just 592 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: like that's what he's done latest, and that's what people 593 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: have to talk about. Like if he were to go 594 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: out and have a ton of catches in the game, 595 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: that's what people are gonna talk about. But now since 596 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: it's the off season, it's the combine and guys are 597 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: preparing for that. It's just what he's done the most recently, 598 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: and we get lost in that because that's the newest 599 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: information that we have. But I don't think you can 600 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: ever steer away from what he's doing on the football field. 601 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: I think I think you gotta look at it too 602 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: as like a sliding skill, because I think each receiver 603 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: is completely different. You look at a Hunter renfro who 604 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: is a He's not gonna blow your way at the test, 605 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: But you watch this tape, he understands leverage. He understands 606 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: how to get open. He uses angles like his quickness 607 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 1: and may not be his straight line speed. But then 608 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: you've got some genetic freaks like d K who can't 609 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: change direction as good as a hunter. So on his 610 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: tape you see more vertical pressure on what he's doing. 611 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: So then his strength numbers are super important in his 612 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: forty because you're talking about straight line speed and how 613 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: strong he has to be able to fight through contact 614 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: because he's not going to create separation with that stuff happening. 615 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: So I think you gotta it. It's kind of a 616 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: bout of testing it, but then also watching one on 617 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: ones too, because God may not show it physically from 618 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 1: the combin jos, but show it in one on one 619 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: settings because it has changed the direction and understand how 620 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: to be DB's leverage is important. Both the guys you 621 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: just mentioned, though, have the tape. They both had the 622 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: tape Hunter imfro cut the past the National Championship game 623 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: from Deshaun Watson like he was still drafted. What third, 624 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah it was, Yeah, could example on the Triple Crown, Yeah, 625 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: like one the Triple Crown. Yeah, Like sometimes it's there 626 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's it's paralysis and now by analysis, 627 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: that's what it is. So I think you need all 628 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: of it in a room, right, you needna wait it. 629 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: We need guys though that can be shifty and create 630 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: separation in the interior. Need some big guys that can 631 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: go vertically or maybe not big, but have the speed 632 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: that stretches it vertically, which creates the space for your 633 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: operators in the bill You need. It's not you wouldn't 634 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: want five dk metcalfs in receiver room. I mean, although 635 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: they're all different guys. I just think what I'm what 636 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm always curious about, is how how it goes? How 637 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: mrs happened? Right? Because you guys, there's so much data. 638 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: There's so much film, there's so much data. There's all 639 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: of the underwear Olympics stuff, there's a one on one, 640 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff you have, and then it comes time 641 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: on draft night and you look back and you go, man, 642 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: what happened here? How did you miss? How do you 643 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: miss on this guy? That guy? I'm just fascinated by that. 644 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: I would say it's hard, really hard. And what he's 645 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: the first thing that you said was I want to 646 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: know how much football matters to them, you're gonna get 647 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: guys who have unbelievable talent. This I've been here for 648 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: a decade with this team. We've drafted some really talented 649 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: people in the first round. Justin Gilbert from a physical 650 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: skill set standpoint, a quarterback was everything you want. It's 651 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: six too long, could cut, could run. It wasn't interested 652 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: in football, and so he was out of the league 653 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: before his rookie contract was over. And I think that's 654 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: probably the hardest part, Like do they want to play 655 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: video games or do they want to dedicate their lives 656 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: to the mastery of this craft to be truly great? 657 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's assessing that I think is probably 658 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: very hard because in those interviews, they're coached to say 659 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: what they're so ppposed to say, right Like It's funny though, 660 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: one of the things I like to ask our guys 661 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: is do you like winning more than you hate losing? 662 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: And in my mind, and I don't know if you 663 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: guys feel the same way, but in my mind, they 664 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: had like I can't stand losing. I don't have the 665 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: gifts to be where these people are, but like losing, 666 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: I could win a thousand times in a row if 667 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: I lose a thousand and one first game. I'm sick, 668 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: like disgust it need to play again. Some people like 669 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: they don't they're just not wired that way, you know. 670 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: But they're gonna tell you in the interviews that. But 671 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: you won't find out till they're here. And you see 672 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: the way that, Oh, when I don't have some success 673 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: do I kind of shrink back because well, now if 674 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm not giving it my all, then I can't really 675 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: say I didn't succeed, you know. And I think that's 676 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: probably the hardest part of evaluating. In addition to the 677 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: talent obviously, yes, it's the intangibles and the way you 678 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: do that. You have to have great relationships with the 679 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: people that these players were brought up with. I mean, 680 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: you have to talk to their college coaches, high school 681 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: coaches and give me the yeah, because it's a lot 682 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: of investment that you can, you know, miss out on. 683 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: So it's an important process for sure. Are you guys 684 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: surprised is now coming in? You guys played you've come 685 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: into this that kind of on that mental side of it, right, 686 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: everybody in the fl's got talent, they got something they 687 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: can do that's special. Otherwise they wouldn't be here. There's 688 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: something that have incredible talent match that with the incredible 689 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: work ethic like Joe Thomas, who should be going in 690 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame first ballot. You get something really 691 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: really special. How did you know that there was gonna 692 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: be so much? Kind of you know, one of the 693 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: things I've when I've talked a lot of coaches, just 694 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: like the mental massaging that has to go on week 695 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: to week, day to day with a lot of these 696 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: twenty year old millionaires who are trying to figure out 697 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: what they really want to do with themselves in this game. 698 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: I'll uh, I'll say it's a balance. It goes back 699 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: to like what's important, and I think it kind of 700 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: places itself out over time. You see what guys saying here, 701 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: Actually you see what guys are are fixing mistakes, like 702 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna miss things that like practice, when we practice, 703 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: every place is not perfect. So we go in, we 704 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: make corrections, we figure out how to fix, We figure 705 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: out a better way to run and play, a better 706 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: technique to coach, whether it's us from the coaching side 707 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: or players fixing like what we're coaching. And then if 708 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: you continue to make the same mistakes over and over again, 709 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: or you're not learning or you're not comprehending. I think 710 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: that kind of shows how important something is to you. 711 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: We don't expect anybody to be perfect out there, and 712 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: it's just time management to like what are you using 713 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: your time for? We all get like the same twenty 714 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: four hours and what we put into it. And I 715 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: think that's also important. Like it's good to be in 716 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: the community and doing things. It's also good to spend 717 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: time with your family, have some social time, But what 718 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: do you what's your professional what do you get paid 719 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: to do? And if that's become the issue, we gotta 720 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: find a way to balance out of time so you 721 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: can continue to do your job well and continue to 722 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: perform on the field. I think that's important for sure. 723 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: It's something that I know, like the closest big program 724 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: here obviously is a higher State, and I think about, 725 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: like they do this thing real like Wednesdays where they 726 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: prepare the guys for what it's going to be like 727 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: when you get to the league, and it feels like 728 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: more and more of these big college programs are doing it. 729 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: And do you see that going all the way exipening 730 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: all the way through various levels as well, where that 731 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: they are guys are coming in more ready for what 732 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: it means to truly be a pro. Yeah, I think so, 733 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: And just because there's so many options now, you know, 734 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: there's so many different avenues to create a life for 735 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: your family and yourself. So I think the more programs 736 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: that can prepare these guys because it is kind of 737 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: a shelf shock. I was a guy that came from 738 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: a D two school and just to hear what was 739 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: going on at this level, like with the agencies and 740 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: the different avenues to make money, and then you have 741 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: to perform every single Sunday or none of those avenues 742 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: will open up for you. There's just a lot of 743 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: stuff going on, and I think the more college programs 744 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: can can provide that to their athletes, the better that 745 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: all the athletes will be and the easier the transition 746 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: will because that's where you get caught up. A lot 747 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: of you hear guys here in that rookie wall because 748 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: they're not used to all this for this amount of time. 749 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: So I think the more you can get those guys 750 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: prepared for it, the better. I think they got to 751 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: know who they are too, Like this is hard, like 752 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: it was when I got here in April, it shocked 753 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: me how much time the coaches spending here, like coach 754 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: coach college fullball for nine years, and you think you're 755 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: working hard. I think there's an extra level to this. 756 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's like get a PhD in football, 757 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: And as long as you know who you are as 758 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: a person, to have self realization of weaknesses, of what 759 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: you need to work on, and and the kids have 760 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: good people around them, I think they won't have an 761 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: issue transitioning. But it's the guys who think they are 762 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: something that they're not really yea, and they have reality 763 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: check when they get you and they realize everyone's good, 764 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: everyone's fast, everyone's strong, and if you don't know what 765 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: you're doing or you're not confident, it can be an issue. 766 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: There's no more scholarships, there's no more like that's the 767 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: Urban line, right. Urban had that line when he when 768 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: when it went bad in Jackson, where he said he goes, look, 769 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: that's just football. Yeah, I mean he was used like 770 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: I gotta go recruit, I gotta do all this. I mean, well, 771 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: there's none of that. No, I mean, it's just we're 772 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: doing But they're and they're grown men trying to feed 773 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: their families and take care of like it's a whole 774 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: different ballgame. So you worked with the quarterbacks, you worked 775 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: with Drew Pets and you're with the quarterbacks obviously the 776 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl as well. Take us through just kind of 777 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: what what is something that you would be contributing like 778 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: to that room kind of your day to day. What 779 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: are you helping coach petsing do? What are you working 780 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: on one of the things, and and what was maybe 781 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: a big win that you had some point during the season. 782 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: Um our daily week is I do. I'm in charge 783 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: of the breakdown, so knowing the defense is any questions 784 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: that they may have, I help coach MP helpt the 785 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: blitz pick up packages and and that that's awesome. Uh, 786 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: the Scottering report we work on that. And then just 787 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: drills and setting up and just being an extra pairrize 788 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: for just a little details that Drew may have me 789 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: zero in on something that he wants to shine and 790 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: fix when Jacobe is plaining hair. Something to fix could 791 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: be footwork, could be depth in a pocket because you 792 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: have practice and billion things going on, and Jews maybe 793 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: looking at his eyes and where his coverage and I'm 794 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: focusing on the lowers. Like he landed at ten yards 795 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: in his drop. He's a little deep here as his 796 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: he was all balanced. So those little things that he 797 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: asked me kind of zero in the I kind of 798 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: help him out with that stuff. So you probably had 799 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: your it was this your first year with the quarterbacks, 800 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: first year probably as a unique situation as you could 801 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: have maybe in the NFL, right in what you guys 802 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: dealt with, what give us without giving away to me, 803 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: see a peek into that room, what it was like, 804 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: the grace of Jacoby, who was just unbelievable, no one 805 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: to Shawn's coming in then trying to have a guy 806 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: get ready to play after not having played for seven 807 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: hundred days. And you mentioned the drops. You could see 808 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: the first weeks drops were all over the place. They 809 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: were like thirty yards, not really, but there's twelve yards, 810 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: five yards. He didn't know where he's going. But and 811 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: seeing that improve over the six weeks. But what was 812 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: that kind of whole experience like, and and seeing you know, 813 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: a guy like Jacoby handle it the way that he did. 814 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty lucky because in that room I have Drew's 815 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: an excellent coach. We have Alex men Pelt was a 816 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: great coach. And then Kevin comes in and spends a 817 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: lot of time and then we're all all four of 818 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 1: us is in are in that meeting room. Um, starting 819 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: off with just that quarterback room I got here in April, 820 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: I had three vets for with the Sean Jacobe and 821 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs, and you talked about three intelligent human beings, 822 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: guys who played a high level of their own career 823 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: and three guys with a great human beings. So learning 824 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: the offense with those guys and then that whole process 825 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: of going from O T a s menitary mini camp 826 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: in the fall camp, I got to kind of experience 827 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: the growth of like learning the off fans signals footwork 828 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: because everyone was starting there, uh ground zero because the 829 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: room new room. So I got really lucky. So um, 830 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: but just constant pros. I think, how to show up 831 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: work every day. Um. Jacobe was a was a great 832 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: example of how to be a leader in the locker room. 833 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: I thought, Um, just Shaun did a good job of 834 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: going through what he went through. Continue to be show 835 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: up here every day with a smile on his face. 836 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: You wouldn't know that anything was on his mind and 837 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: just him being a constant competitor and he did whatever 838 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: it took for the team to have success. And he 839 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: was all on board. And that was supporting Jacobe. That 840 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: was helping Jacobe get ready to play, and that was 841 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: Jacobe helping to Sean with the Shaan came back. That's 842 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: a constant pro thinking and being a good teammate. So 843 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from those guys. Yeah, but that 844 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: was a pretty special experience. And you were with the 845 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: tight ends this year, running receivers tight ends and he 846 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: was a quarterback coach and has been around the league, 847 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: so you kind of had that perspective as well. So 848 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: you're ready for the offense. Now you just got to 849 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: get there with coach Callahan. Yeah, coach Kalahan, that would 850 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: be that would be a fun room. I guess those 851 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: guys right, a little more of a tough love approach. 852 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: But what was that like for you? Working with the 853 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: tight ends and the chief coming back and having that 854 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: big year that man, it was awesome just getting into 855 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: a different room. I got to dive down more into 856 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: the run game. I think when I was in the 857 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: running back room, it was more focused on protections and 858 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: learning that and just a footwork, but you don't really 859 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: you aren't really involved in exactly what the scheme is 860 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: up front. You just know what your reads are. And 861 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: then moving to the receiver room was more so about 862 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: the pass game. So moving into the tight end room, 863 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: it's like a mixture of both. You're involved in the protections, 864 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: you're really involved in the running in the past game. 865 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: So just seeing all of it kind of coming together 866 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: until one is pretty neat to be in that room. 867 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: And then just working with those guys and joke who 868 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: Harrison Brian, We had Jesse James for a little bit, 869 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: We had Farrell Brown, we had some rookies a year 870 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: a practice squad miller, and just to see all those 871 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: guys is huge. I think he has made in a 872 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: factory on that. But just and those guys like work together, 873 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: like how they bounce ideas. Office a very collaborative room. 874 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: We talk about routes, how we're gonna marry stems up. 875 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: So just seeing all those guys work together is pretty awesome. 876 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: This was awesome. Haven't you guys in here? Yeah? Did 877 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: you do it? More? Absolutely? Ashton Israel? Great, continue great work. Boys. 878 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: Really appreciate you guys. You're listening to cle The Browns 879 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: Daily brought you by Baally Bet Coming soon Ohio on 880 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: a fifty esp in Cleveland. Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to 881 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland. 882 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: There's any way to cheer on your Cleue the Browns 883 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: helping your favorite four Lady companion. Barking Backers presented by 884 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: Milk Boone, the Brown's newest club for pet parents worldwide, 885 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: center to day at barking Backers dot com. Barking Backers 886 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: a fan club for dogs. As we go around the NFL. Uh, 887 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes just landed the job I'm gonna land. That 888 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: does not surprise me. Honestly, I think that Steve Wilkes 889 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: showed when he was here. I liked him very much. 890 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: He was tremendous in Carolina. He's always had great defenses. 891 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: You know, we got the chance to be the head 892 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: coach of Arizona, I want to say because of the 893 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: strength of his defense. Only one year there, but it 894 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: felt it was in Rosen year into Kingsbury Tyler like. 895 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: He didn't get really what we'd call a fair shake there, 896 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: but um, he was here with Freddie, right, was it 897 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: the Freddie staff with Wilkes year? It was the year Yeah, 898 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: it was so think about it. We had to think 899 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: about who the coordinators were, like Monkan legit and then 900 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: in Wilkes. Yeah, Monk and Wilkes. Kyle was here. I 901 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: mean no, I mean I'm just just in the last 902 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: couple of years though, like, yeah, yeah they were, because 903 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean Monkin, did he end up going to the 904 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: Bucks or did he say it Georgia? He has he 905 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: just has a second interview with the race interviewed, but 906 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: there's been no other further move. Yeah, I was curious. 907 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he's a sick of recruiting, but 908 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: he's done probably as good a job as any coordinators 909 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: done in college football the last couple of years at Georgia, 910 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: no doubt. And it was a great guy. I um, 911 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, that's a great place for Wilkes to land. 912 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: That's a great to be able to get somebody like 913 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 1: that after you lose to mac O'Ryan's. It just shows 914 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: that the people believe. People have obviously in Kyle, and 915 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a part of that with him. Well, 916 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: what I think is it like to me? It looks 917 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: like there's nothing that would stop Kyle from being the 918 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: coach of the forty nine for another decade. So if 919 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: you're Wilkes, like be the defensive coordinator for Kyle Shannon 920 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: for the next decade, live in the Bay Area, have 921 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: a great life. And he's done very well for himself. 922 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: Very nice guy, very smart guy, very as a tremendous 923 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: presence about him. And he runs. You know, he's got 924 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: a four man front defense, so that he ran very effect. 925 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: Look at Brian Burns and what he did in Caroline, 926 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: how good or defense was a year ago. And so 927 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: he's got an oportunities gonna take that, and I think 928 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: that'll be seamless for them. I like it. I like 929 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: it a lot. I think that dude, let me tell 930 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: you something, and they're like, social media is not real. 931 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: But so many people were out there dogging on Joe Woods, 932 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: and I would say that I find that to be 933 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: erroneous and ridiculous. Joe Woods obviously has a good scheme. 934 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: Our defense from Week seven on this year was one 935 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: of the best in the league. Our defense two years 936 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: ago was if our offense was good, we go the players. 937 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: Was top five in the league. Was this the best 938 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: season we ever had? No? Do I personally this is me. 939 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: Do I hold coaches accountable for players making absurd mental mistakes? No? 940 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: At some point where I would hold them accountable. You 941 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: gotta just bench the people, right, you gotta say the 942 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: accountability's got to go. If you do this, you can't play, No, 943 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: regardless where we drafted you, regardless of all that, you 944 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: can't play. Um. So, I think it's a tough situation. 945 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: But Joe Woods is a good defensive coach, and the 946 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: fact that he got a job immediately after this is 947 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: because people in the NFL watch it no his tape 948 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: and he's reunited with Dennis Allen. They were together and 949 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: with the Raiders, and Dennis Allen knows good defensive coaches. 950 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: So we brought in Joe Woods. And now that's a situation, 951 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: my guess is where he's the defensive coordinator like you 952 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: could say that Todd Manka was the offensive quarter like 953 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: a VP as the offensive coordinator. Here it's gonna be 954 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen's defense. That's why he's head coach, right. But 955 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: he's he's a good coach, and they wanted to make 956 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 1: sure that, you know, obviously they brought him into the folder, 957 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: So I'm happy for him. They'll be reunited with not reunited, 958 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: but with former Brown to Mario Davis, and I think 959 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: that'll be a good spot for him. So happy for 960 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,439 Speaker 1: Joe Woods. Broncos officially introduced Sean Payton yesterday. The most 961 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: noteworthy thing is I don't know if he was unaware 962 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: of Russell wilson set up with Denver. It seemed like 963 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: it based on a question after the presser there was 964 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: a gaggle following and was asked about Russell Wilson's personal 965 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: quarterback and like a bunch of hangers on, I guess 966 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: Russ had his own like office and the facility among 967 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: other things. And Peyton said, that's foreign to me. That's 968 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: not going to take place. I'm unfamiliar with it. Our 969 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: staff will be here, our players will be here, and 970 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,959 Speaker 1: that will be it. Um. It was a pretty straightforward answer. 971 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: I think he was honestly really shocked that by the 972 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: question is that if you listen to it, it doesn't 973 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: He's not answering it like emphatically, like well that ain't 974 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: gonna happen, right, He's more like for answering it from 975 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: the perspective Oh, I'm unaware of that or what that was, 976 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: and that's not how we're going to do it. It 977 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: was almost like he was unaware of the circumstances that 978 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had last year in Denver. The way I read, 979 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: he probably look Nathaniel Hackett didn't have the call to 980 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 1: gotta have call, you gotta have call. I call yesterday, 981 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: I got called today, called tomorrow. He doesn't have call. 982 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's got calls. Gonna be like no, And that's it. 983 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 1: That's what I'm solved. There's there's not probably another coach 984 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: that they would have hired that would have had that 985 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: type of call correct for Russell Wilson. But Sean Payton 986 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: will um and if they can get if he can 987 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: play eight of the level Drew Brees played for the 988 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: last five or six years he was in New Orleans, 989 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: and they'll be very very s sense uh this. The 990 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: Vikings have hired Steelers linebacker coach and senior defensive assistant 991 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 1: Brian Flores is their new defensive coordinator. He was actually 992 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: up as a finalist in Arizona and pulled out of 993 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: that to take this job as de coordinator with the Vikings. 994 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: That's a nice spot. I'll tell you what, Kevin O'Connell 995 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: and Flora's I like. I like that setup that they've 996 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: got there, and maybe it's gonna be a rebuild on 997 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: that defense, but that's where they're gonna put their focus 998 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: this offseason. Offensively, they're in a good spot. And I 999 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: think that's a team that you know, maybe with this 1000 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: higher this is a team that maybe is going to 1001 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: be better than perhaps we thought. Yeah, I think so. 1002 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: I think so too. I like it a lot. From 1003 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, the Chiefs of activated Clyde Edwards a 1004 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: layer from the injured reserve and place McCole Hardman on 1005 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: I R. So there's an adjustment on that. He is 1006 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: not gonna play, but Jaco McKinnon are gonna play now 1007 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: he's not gonna play. No. Jerry Steed also said, Yester, 1008 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: he's cleared concussion. Juju Swis Schuster gets a million dollar 1009 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 1: Chiefs bonus if the Chiefs win and he plays fifty 1010 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: of the snaps. The corner one is a big one. 1011 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: It's huge number one. I'll tell you the from the 1012 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: Eagles perspective, um they have they played this entire year. 1013 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: They never played a quarterback even in the vicinity of this, 1014 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: like it's Dan Dimes, it's Prescott, like they don't have 1015 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: they didn't play one of the big AFC quarterbacks. This 1016 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: basically this will be new for their secondary. And nobody's 1017 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: played an offensive a defensive line like the Eagles that 1018 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: you certainly have not played anybody that resembles them. So 1019 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna be that's the chess match. Can they give 1020 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes enough time? Because brad Bury and Slay or two 1021 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: excellent corners. Gardner Johnson plays what's six picks this year, 1022 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 1: he's played great, So it's a good back end, it's 1023 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: a dominant front, so it gonna be a fun one. Um. 1024 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Media Day was yesterday. You guys have been 1025 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: to these right, been to one and I was like, 1026 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: this is insane. And it was the only type only 1027 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: place where you could run into like, uh, someone who 1028 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: has who works at a website that has five it's 1029 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: a week, and then turn around and run into Giselle, 1030 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: Like it just doesn't make sense, the humanities that they're 1031 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: like those. There's no other circumstance where they would the 1032 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: cross section would be that way. Um, it was always 1033 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: it always blew. I was at five of them. It 1034 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: always blew my mind, like how Chris Burman would walk 1035 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: in with the mike and just shove people out of 1036 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: the way and go right to the front of the 1037 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: dais like and do whatever he wanted, like you could 1038 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: be in the middle of something, it didn't matter, Like 1039 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: he was taking a mic and he was going to 1040 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: the front and he was gonna go get Tom Brady 1041 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: and you're gonna sit and watch until he's done, and 1042 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 1: then he'll leave doing that. Yeah, yeah, so Burman did that. UM. 1043 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: One of the other things I always look forward to 1044 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: was the TVs Techa Telemundo reporters UM in terms of 1045 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: the attire, like they went viral before there was a 1046 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: such thing as viral, and I was at the one 1047 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,919 Speaker 1: where the one wore a wedding dress and asked Tom 1048 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: Brady to marry her. That was something I certainly looked 1049 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 1: for they got to UM. The other thing that I 1050 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: thought was very cool was there's an l a t 1051 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: V radio personality and the brick you wear. This guy 1052 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: he's fantastic. So he his stick is he dresses like 1053 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: a viking. Okay, so he's got a horned helmet. The 1054 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: thing God, this is not at the combine. Why isn't 1055 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: he Victor Viking? I have no idea, but he's Victor Brick. 1056 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: It's great. It's a great outfit. And the first time 1057 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: I saw him, I'm like, what's this stick? And apparently 1058 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: that's like the stick always like that good questions. Yeah, 1059 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: he's like does legitimate? Yeah, he was on a national 1060 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: show I think I want to say with remember like 1061 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 1: Pat O'Brien from like CBS and Access Hollywood, he did. 1062 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: He did a national show with him at one point, 1063 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: crazy and they used to do. They still broadcast it 1064 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: live and last night, but it's weird because with it 1065 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: being on the West coast. Nothing started till like eight 1066 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 1: o'clock last night, nine o'clock and went till midnight. Yeah, 1067 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: look at this guy. Look at Victor Brick. He's a 1068 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 1: great operation. Some guy asked Jalen Hurts or some guy 1069 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: said to jail And Hurts last night, I never thought 1070 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: you'd be playing in the Super Bowl. Yes, and he 1071 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: said a lot of people didn't. And then the guy 1072 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: promptly said, I'm sorry, I was one of those people 1073 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't like probably apologized, promptly apologized, it hurts, like 1074 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: cool yeah, thanks. I guess my favorite one was the 1075 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: one to Sirianni where the guy goes, as this a 1076 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: must win, and Surrey Sirianni goes, yeah, it is as 1077 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: it turns out it What do you think? There's no 1078 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 1: more else to go? This is the way that it goes. 1079 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:41,280 Speaker 1: He's seventy years old, Victor Bricky Icon living his best life. 1080 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 1: Viking Cornell started as broadcasting in Guam in nine. Yep, 1081 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: he's great. He's great, and then that's the outfit every 1082 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: time you see him. I'm sure he's there now. Radio 1083 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: Row had a ton of people. I know, RBS is there. 1084 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: I said, it looked like radio. It's interesting. I noticed 1085 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,919 Speaker 1: as of yesterday, and yesterday was like the first day, 1086 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 1: and it's it's early like today. It'll start amping up 1087 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: tomorrow through Fridays. Just a madhouse. But I guess there 1088 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: were more like social media uh platforms there than there 1089 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: were actual radio stations. I believe that. I think that's 1090 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: the transition that's taken place. I do think one thing 1091 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: that's happened with the sports betting that a lot of 1092 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: those are incentivizing shows to go on the road in 1093 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 1: their names so right, especially in our state. There's a 1094 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of that that's going on right now, so we'll see. Um. 1095 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: But it's it's a long week, man, you cover a 1096 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: super Bowl, it's a long You're exhausted. Get me out 1097 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: of here. Yeah, it's it's a lot. It's a lot 1098 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: by the time you're done. Um. All right, coming up 1099 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 1: next to our position, all you have a quick one. 1100 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: I'll do when we come back. All right, Our positional 1101 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: breakdowns can center on the linebacker position. Second hour coming 1102 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: up next us to clean the Brown's Daily brought to 1103 00:52:54,600 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: you by bally Bet, Coming soon Ohio. Cleveland. Brown's Daily 1104 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 1: brought to you by Bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio 1105 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: on ESPN Cleveland. All right, we continue our offseason position 1106 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: will breakdowns at the linebacker position. And I have to 1107 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: tell you, uh, I was unaware of how few we have. 1108 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: They are on the roster and and locked in and 1109 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 1: ready to go. Um, Tony Fields and Ta Davis not 1110 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: even we had correct that we had to correct given 1111 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 1: he's not even right on that. No, just Tony Fields, 1112 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 1: Just Tony Fields. And then Story Jackson and Sam Kamara 1113 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: are on reserved future deals. So those are the only three. 1114 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: And then you've got Phillips and a woozy Koramoa, so 1115 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: we were reserved. Yeah they're injured, but like going in 1116 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: the next year, they will be healthy. So you'll have 1117 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: under contract j Ok Jacob Phillips, and Tony Field who 1118 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: played well for you this year. But that's it. That's it. 1119 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 1: So other than that, everybody else a free agent Regland 1120 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: who can him in at the end of the year 1121 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: and played well. Uh Dion Jones, Jermaine Carter, uh Kunashik Taki, 1122 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: and Anthony Walker Jr. All free agents, my friend as 1123 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,720 Speaker 1: get sorted out here, so a ton to get sorted 1124 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: out because you know you're gonna need We've had we 1125 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: had six linebackers, five or six linebackers active every game, 1126 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: and right now we have three Story Jackson, Sam Kamara. 1127 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they become that six linebacker, but that's 1128 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: really what you're looking at there. And Sam Camara was 1129 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: more of a pass rusher really. Anyway, Uh Raglan came in. 1130 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,919 Speaker 1: He played very well for your former second round pick. 1131 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: He's a veteran and I thought he made an immediate impact. 1132 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: Was bigger than the our other linebackers, you know, like 1133 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: two fifty to sixty. He had fourteen tackles in his 1134 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: four games. Dion Jones I thought played very good football 1135 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: for you. Two and a half sacks, he had a 1136 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: force fumble, he had an interception, three passes defense, and 1137 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: and he had forty four tackles in eleven games, five 1138 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: starts for you. Also, a former second round pick, former 1139 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: Pro bowler Jermaine Carter came in and played kind of 1140 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: like a little bit at the He's another big guy. 1141 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: He's about two fifty two sixty. He had sixteen tackles 1142 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: in seven games. Kunashik is a special team's ace. They 1143 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 1: love him here. He had twenty two tackles on the season. 1144 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: And then there's tok who seventy one tackles on the 1145 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: years the only tacky. Tacky finished the season third in 1146 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 1: tackles for the Cleveland Browns with seventy one. He had 1147 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: a sack and a forced fumble in the game against 1148 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: Cincinnati UH in just twelve games, so tackle was on 1149 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: pace to be your leading tackler or close to it. 1150 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 1: With Delpatan John Johnson, I love him. Guy wants to 1151 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: be a Brown. I see him here every day working 1152 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: his butt off. You want to bring him back. And 1153 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: then Anthony Walker Jr. Is great and also wants to 1154 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 1: be back. And Anthony Walker Jr. In three games was 1155 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,280 Speaker 1: looking like one of the best linebackers in the league. 1156 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: In those three games, he had thirteen tackles, he had 1157 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: four tackles for loss, two passes defense, and was one 1158 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,240 Speaker 1: of the highest grade linebackers in the National Football League. 1159 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: So you've got four guys that are worth really all 1160 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 1: six these guys are worth bringing back on some level. 1161 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: But you know Raglan Dion Jones, talk in Walker and 1162 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,879 Speaker 1: then Ku nash K for special teams. There's a lot 1163 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: to sort out there because you're likely only gonna bring 1164 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: back one or two of them. You can bring back 1165 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 1: Kunashak and two others if you wanted to and basically 1166 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: kind of run the room back, or you're probably gonna 1167 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: draft somebody as my guess uh to get that, you know, 1168 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: cheaper labor as it were in that room. But you know, 1169 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: Takie Walker, Raglan Dion Jones, you probably want one or 1170 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 1: two of those guys back for sure. The question is 1171 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: is who you know. Unfortunately, the reality is you can't 1172 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: count on Jacob Phillips. Jacob Phillips played really well seven 1173 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: games forty six tackles, two tackles for a lost, two sacks. 1174 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: He had a pass defense and was looking like the 1175 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,839 Speaker 1: guy you want. He's got the size, he's got the look, 1176 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: all of that. But in three seasons he's played twenty games. 1177 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 1: We had him Thursday, we were down at um at 1178 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: u h for the big announcement and he was the 1179 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 1: guy who who came in and we I talked to 1180 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: him for I don't know twenty minutes and he said 1181 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,800 Speaker 1: he's feeling great and all of it. And anytime we 1182 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 1: get a change to talk to you like he's the US, 1183 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: it's great. And when he's on the field, he's great. 1184 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: It's the best. But just bad dumb injury luck that 1185 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 1: he just hasn't been able to get games. It's crazy, man, 1186 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: it's crazy. If you I asked him like do you 1187 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 1: feel snake bit? You know by all of this and 1188 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: he's in the mental part of it. It wears on you, man, 1189 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: what he's had to go through. So he's been in 1190 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: the league in two of the seventeen game season, so 1191 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: he's played twenty out of fifty games. Yeah, well that's 1192 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: what it feels like. Yeah, So the availability part is 1193 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: a problem there. Um I think the one that is 1194 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be interesting is j Okay started the year 1195 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: when Anthony Walker was here on a level that was 1196 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,479 Speaker 1: just different, and you could feel it. When Walker went out, 1197 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: there was a step back for him. And and that 1198 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be his This is a big year for 1199 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 1: him going into his third year in the league because 1200 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: he has traits that are certainly very very special. You 1201 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: just need the consistency to be there all the time, 1202 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: um in and so, and you need him to be 1203 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 1: able to be availability too, that's the other part of it. 1204 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: So he's played twenty five of thirty four games in 1205 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: his career, played in fourteen games his first season, just 1206 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: eleven this year. But he makes plays in the level 1207 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: games seventy tackles, seven tackles for a loss, too, forced fumbles, 1208 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 1: four passes defense. But he's got to get bigger. He's 1209 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: got to put some weight on two pounds. It's not 1210 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: gonna work now. And that ties into what this team 1211 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: needs to do upfront, which is get some big guys 1212 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of this defense to eat up blocks. 1213 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: You know, we've heard ron pains named Draymont Draymond Jones, 1214 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,919 Speaker 1: the former Ohio State Buckeyes in Denver. Yeahs talked about 1215 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: that yesterday both you know, in terms of our positional 1216 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: needs of Jones and then he actually mentioned Paris Campbell 1217 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: to actually two former Buckeyes, to former Northeast Ohio guys 1218 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: Paris and Speeds or two. But for him, it's availability. 1219 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: It's to say it right, I gotta be able to play. 1220 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: You want somebody that right can come in here and 1221 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: is do you feel like he's done it right? I 1222 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: mean Paris Campbell has been in the league now for 1223 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: four seasons. He has nine eighty yards. Now, this was 1224 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: his best year six D twenty three, but he averaged 1225 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,439 Speaker 1: nine yards to catch. Um played all the games, which 1226 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: was good before they played seven two and six. It's 1227 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: not available, no, not available fifteen games in his first 1228 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: three seasons in the league. So yeah, a lot of 1229 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: talent there. Sure, maybe you kick the tires on him. 1230 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: That's something our front office has done. Really, He's kind 1231 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: of looked at guys that had high athletic pedigrees um, 1232 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: but j OK, he's got it all. He has everything 1233 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: you want. You just need him to be to stay healthy. 1234 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 1: And I think part of that is getting guys in 1235 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: front of him that allow him to float and fly 1236 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: to the ball and not be you know, taking onlineman 1237 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: at the second level. But sometimes you gotta take onlineman. 1238 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: And he's a very talented guy. We've got a lot 1239 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: of guys on our d that are very talented and 1240 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: have flashed great talent, and especially in this lineback room, 1241 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: but we needed consistent, We need him stay healthy. I mean, 1242 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 1: to get twenty games out of Jacob Phillips in three 1243 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: years is just brutal. Yeah, it is giving once one 1244 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: word to describe the Browns linebacker played this past season. Unavailable, 1245 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 1: the injured. Yeah, just not wasn't there the way that 1246 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: you expected to be in any way, just so many injuries. 1247 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 1: You went into it with last year your top four 1248 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: linebackers being Walker, Phillips, Taki, Taki, and j Okay and 1249 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: you felt good about that. That's a talented group. You 1250 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 1: got Jacob Phillips for seven games, you got Takie Taki 1251 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: for twelve games, Lucy Cormo for eleven games, and Anthony 1252 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Walker for three, So twelve, eleven, seven and three. So 1253 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 1: that's ten thirty three out of seventeen times four. So 1254 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: you didn't even get fifty eight percent of those games 1255 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 1: played now Tony Fields. He did a good job for you. 1256 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: You have the pick six against Houston, he had a 1257 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 1: force fumble. He had forty eight tackles on the season 1258 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: and actually showed something for you. And he gave you 1259 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 1: all seventeen games. But to get thirty three out of 1260 01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: sixty eight games from your top four linebackers stunning. They 1261 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,919 Speaker 1: were snake bitten last year, and unfortunately, you know part 1262 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: of that. I think when Anthony Walker went out it 1263 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: really affected our run defense and affected a lot of 1264 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: things on our defense. Yeah, and the question, the next 1265 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: one is how do you expected linebackers to look under 1266 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz the next season. Well, historically, you know, Schwartz 1267 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 1: has those big bodies in the middle of his defense 1268 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: that allow for the linebackers to run free and make 1269 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: plays and make tackles. That's the them. So that's something 1270 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna have to be in roster construction, Like these 1271 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 1: guys have the ability to do that, but you have 1272 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: to have it up front so that they're able to 1273 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: You're you're exactly right about that, and and that's ultimately 1274 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: what for this team what it's gonna be all about, Right, 1275 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be about can view get those defensive tackles, 1276 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Can the linebackers then fly to the ball? Can we 1277 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: play that more aggressive freestyle and can they stay healthy? 1278 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 1: And if the answer is yes, great, If not, I 1279 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, it's uh. And it leads to which 1280 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: linebacker needs to step up most. It's a j Okay 1281 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: and Jacob Phillips are the two. They both need to 1282 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 1: they need to be available, They've got to be ready 1283 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 1: to go, and they need to make impact. And um, 1284 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 1: they were both drafted in a in a decent spot 1285 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: and thought that they would be, you know, kind of 1286 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 1: the big parts of this defense going forward. For a 1287 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 1: very long time. It was j ok felt like theft 1288 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 1: when we drafted him. Um, and and so you he 1289 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: needs and he's certainly shown it. But he's got to 1290 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: be available in play all the time. And I think 1291 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: you're right on the wait thing. I think it's it's 1292 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: two twenties. So if you're too twenty by your week eight, 1293 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 1: you'r to ten. If that I'm to ten, I have 1294 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: no business being out there killed. Yeah, I'm not gonna work. 1295 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean to fifteen. For crying out loud at times, 1296 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: it's not gonna work, not gonna work. I said, I 1297 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: just did see that. Did we just sign somebody a 1298 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 1: defensive tackle on a futures deal? It wouldn't surprise me. 1299 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 1: Looks like just right here, right by, right now, Michael 1300 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Um four dumb four two reserves futures contact d w 1301 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: U m f O. You are most originally in his 1302 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: second season out of Rutgers. Okay, right there, signing where 1303 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: the Jets is undrafted free agent one games six is 1304 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: sexiest black and red. Yeah, there you go. All right, 1305 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: so there you have it. Uh, you you want to 1306 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 1: talk about Arian Foster, so we'll do that. Um. We 1307 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: also have Maurice shows Drew ranking all seventy five starting 1308 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: running backs. We'll have a little fun with that. We'll 1309 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: do O high lower coming up a little bit later. 1310 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: You listen to Cleveland Brown Zily brought to you by 1311 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: bally Bet, Coming soon Ohio on FIFESP in Cleveland. Cleveland 1312 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Brown's Daily brought to you by bally Bet, Coming soon 1313 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 1: to Ohio on e s P in Cleveland, Vans Mark 1314 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 1: your calendar's face Off on the Lake, presented by Meyer. 1315 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: The first page around to our hockey game at First Energy. 1316 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: It's February eighteenth, the Buckeyes and Wolverines at First Energy. 1317 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 1: Tickets on sale now starting at twelve bucks. For more information, 1318 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: visit First Energy Stadium. Dot COM's last face offer called four. 1319 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 1: Arian Foster, was it last week? It was last week? Yeah? 1320 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 1: Out when this when he was doing this, I I 1321 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 1: gave it like from a it was such an absurd thing. 1322 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: It's like say out out. I mean it's craziness. Yeah, 1323 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: is what it is. It's complete and total craziness. It 1324 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: was in my mind Arian Foster basically the way that 1325 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 1: I read it and interpreted it and talked to other 1326 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: people about it. But he basically said that the get 1327 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 1: they get a script that lines out in p FT 1328 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: commentary was like, you're saying, like, in week four you're 1329 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 1: going to score three touchdowns? Did you remember that? It's like, well, 1330 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: I was excited about that about week four scared three touchdowns? Anyway, 1331 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: you like Kyrie with the flat earth stuff, it's so 1332 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: so ridiculous that, yeah, it's so ridiculous. But it has 1333 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: led to so many funny memes of people reading the script, 1334 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 1: and even Myles Garrett kind of played into it when 1335 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 1: he said, you know, he tweeted out a picture of 1336 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: himself and goes me reading the script for the Pro 1337 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 1: Bowl games. He had fun with it because you know 1338 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna get hurt, and he's like, what, but there 1339 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 1: have been some great ones, really good. By the way, 1340 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 1: what's up with your boy Brady? What's he What's what's 1341 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 1: up with your boy Brady? What's he doing? Is he 1342 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 1: posting like some weird picks and like, yeah, but someone 1343 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 1: said yesday that was photoshopped, that it wasn't actually him, 1344 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: And now he's having fun with it today and saying 1345 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 1: I'll recreate all of these I guess all of the 1346 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: model picks or something a something like yeah, he was 1347 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 1: like something, I need forty thousand likes. Um, it's I 1348 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: get forty likes. I continue to be amazed that someone 1349 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: of his accomplishment is like spending a Tuesday morning on Twitter, 1350 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: and like, I think of the same thing when I 1351 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 1: hear when I see like Elon Musk respond to somebody 1352 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: complaining about something on Twitter, and I'm just thinking, like, 1353 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 1: you're running three companies, this is real. Yeah, somebody said 1354 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 1: that it was photoshopped yesterday, though I mean he said, 1355 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: did I do it? Right? To Edelman, Gronk and at 1356 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 1: Brady Brand. But no, no, that that's the response yesterday 1357 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 1: it came out not from him there. Somebody had it 1358 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 1: yesterday and the thinking was that it was photoshopped. So 1359 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's now just Rea doing the photoshop. 1360 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea. No, that's it. That's his that 1361 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: is his answer. So what he was saying forty likes 1362 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 1: and he would recreate these Brady Brand pictures that I'm saying, yeah, 1363 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: but this is this is what he did. No, no, no, 1364 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: that's yesterday. That's before any of the I'll recreate that's 1365 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 1: not that's not a response. This is stuff is today. 1366 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: That original image came out yesterday morning, and that image 1367 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: there were people that said it was that it was 1368 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 1: photoshopped yesterday. Now he's having fun with it today. Does 1369 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 1: that make sense? What you're saying makes sense. But I'm 1370 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 1: just going off of the stream of him. He now 1371 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 1: redid it today. The tweet you just showed his one 1372 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: from today, So that original one is from yesterday. This 1373 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: is the most newsworthy thing that came of this. There's 1374 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 1: two big things that came out of Brady in the 1375 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 1: last number. One, he is not going to call games. 1376 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 1: So that's the most important thing. He's not gonna call games. 1377 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,959 Speaker 1: And I said this yesterday. I think there's a decent 1378 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: chance that he doesn't do the broadcast booth, that he 1379 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 1: doesn't do the A team. I think there's a decent 1380 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 1: chance that he goes with a video production component similar 1381 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: to what Manning did with the ESPN, that he goes 1382 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 1: in an other route. Um as opposed to doing that. 1383 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 1: And Fox is still going to get there to three 1384 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: seventy five million because they're paying for the association. The 1385 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 1: other thing he did is on his podcast Let's Go, 1386 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:16,320 Speaker 1: he had Belichick on. So Belichick was on his podcast 1387 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: and said, greatest player, very emotional, He's the greatest player, 1388 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 1: greatest teammate, greatest winner, greatest player in NFL history. Like 1389 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 1: they kind of had their Maya Kalpa him and Belichick 1390 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 1: and the thing he was. Once he retired, there were 1391 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: people saying, you know, would he go back to the 1392 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: Patriots and sign in one day contract And one of 1393 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 1: the writers there said, there's zero chance of that. There's 1394 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: too much bad blood. So this appears to be amending. 1395 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 1: So those were the two things that were really noteworthy. 1396 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 1: I did was Jim Gray a part of that. I 1397 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,000 Speaker 1: don't know that part. I only heard Brady talking to Belichick. Yeah, 1398 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 1: I mean we didn't wouldn't need him not listening to 1399 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 1: the whole podcast. I listened to the two when there. 1400 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 1: I listened to their exchange. But Gray was on a 1401 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: part of their exchange. He was not, That's what I mean. No, 1402 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 1: So that was nor did he need to be. Nor 1403 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 1: did he need to be. So that was pretty good. Um. 1404 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 1: The other thing that was interesting over the weekend where 1405 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 1: in terms of NFL quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers just continue to 1406 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 1: like really jerk it up to Packers fans. So on 1407 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 1: Friday he was like, I'm not going to the forty nine. 1408 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,560 Speaker 1: Is like he's under contract for sixty million dollars to 1409 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 1: put the Packer the Packers next year. And then Amanda 1410 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: billy Onis interviews him Sunday after his round where apparently 1411 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,679 Speaker 1: his playing opponents complained that he cheated the guy Josh 1412 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 1: Allen and the pro that Keith Mitchell, I think is 1413 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 1: who Josh Allen was playing with. Mitchell said post round like, 1414 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 1: if Rogers Rodgers handicap as nonsense and if he wins, 1415 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 1: I can If he wins, I consider that we won, 1416 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 1: and you can read into that what you want. Like, 1417 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,759 Speaker 1: it felt like he was kind of like deferently bothered 1418 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 1: by it. Well what he was saying. He was saying 1419 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,720 Speaker 1: that he's a sandbagger, better than he's much better than 1420 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: his handicap, and that he basically cheated with his that 1421 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,400 Speaker 1: his handicaps nonsense. So um, there was that. And then 1422 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,640 Speaker 1: post round, Balionis interviewed him and she said, you know, 1423 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 1: she started asking about like his situation goes. I'm hearing 1424 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 1: a lot of raiders out here in the watch. I 1425 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 1: saw that you really like, why would you knwke green Bay? 1426 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Even if you don't like whatever you don't like, Like, 1427 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 1: it feels like they tried to do everything for you 1428 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, Like what do you why 1429 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,800 Speaker 1: do you get a newcomb? It feels like they paid 1430 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb for God's sakes? Like what do you need 1431 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 1: he needs some type of validation for I don't know. Yes, 1432 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:31,880 Speaker 1: I mean maybe he's just trying to make them mad 1433 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,840 Speaker 1: enough that everybody wants nothing to do with him, so 1434 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 1: that way you're not feeling bad when he goes somewhere else. 1435 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I just don't know why it 1436 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 1: was awkward when Farv left there following in the exact 1437 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 1: same footstep. It's very very strange. Why why they do 1438 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 1: all of that? Um? Go ahead, Mrs Quick Just a 1439 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: quick little hop in as well from the sports world. 1440 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 1: That leads to something that you and I love to 1441 01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:00,040 Speaker 1: talk about all the time. SummerSlam going to Detroit. What 1442 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: they have in Detroit build it. It's Peyton Manning. That's it. 1443 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. It's not hard, it's all there 1444 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: for you. Come on, baby, absolutely. Um. This from Maurice 1445 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: Jones drew on NFL dot com ranking all seventy five 1446 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 1: starting running backs for the two thousand and twenty two season. Uh. 1447 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 1: He had McCaffrey one, Eckler to Jacobs three, Henry four, 1448 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Chub five. I love Eckler, Don't get me wrong. I 1449 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,960 Speaker 1: don't know anybody who would would you Would you take 1450 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 1: Eckler over Nick Chubb? No? I wouldn't take Josh Jacobs 1451 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 1: or Henry over Nick Chubb either. Dush Jacobs was very 1452 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,639 Speaker 1: good this year, by the way, he ranked the top 1453 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 1: seventy five. Didn't have Kareem Hunt in there. Well, well, 1454 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 1: he had a rough year this year. Gibbee. Um, the 1455 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 1: people further down the list aren't a whole lot better. Alright, 1456 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: let's see, this was just the top five we printed 1457 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 1: out because we tried to save half a tree today. 1458 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 1: Deonte Foreman over Bruce Hall, Zeke Elliott over anybody that's 1459 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 1: pretty wild. Yeah that is huh huh. Dalvin, I feel 1460 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 1: like took a little bit of a step back this year. 1461 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah as well, it feels like it. Yeah, Derrick Henry 1462 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 1: is only in year seven. Derrick Henry has been the 1463 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 1: legal only one year longer than Austin Ekeler's McCaffrey and Dalvin. 1464 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 1: He's a year older than Zeke. It seems like he 1465 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 1: was a starting running back, starting running back at BAM 1466 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: in two thou wow, alright, a little better worse coming 1467 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 1: your way. Next, You'll clean the Brown Zilly Betty by 1468 01:12:53,360 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: bally Beck, Coming soon Ohio on esp IN Cleveland, Cleveland 1469 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 1: Brown's Daily brought to you by Bally bet Coming soon 1470 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 1: to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland. A car trucker motorcycle accident 1471 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 1: construe injury called the injury lawyers that wanted hunted elk 1472 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: Ohio for a free case review. Alcinous proud partner of 1473 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: your Cleveland Brown's time for a little higher or lower, 1474 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 1: better worse, presented by Keep It Fun Ohio from Ohio Lottery, 1475 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: offering easy ways to keep gambling fun. A P. Joins 1476 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 1: us here in studio. Get to see again, my friend, Hello, 1477 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 1: give a how did boys? Hello? Welcome to Tuesday. Welcome 1478 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 1: super Bowl week, final game of the season. Ye, sad, 1479 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 1: by the way, so noticeable without real football this weekend 1480 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 1: noticeable and sad? Do you think that they did? You 1481 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 1: prefer it the old way where there wasn't the week between. 1482 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 1: You just kept going, yeah, yeah, I'm fine with It's 1483 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: the hype and it's it was just inverted. So the 1484 01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 1: super Bowl would have been last week, the Pro Bowl 1485 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 1: would have been this week, and then you would have 1486 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 1: had guys in the super Bowl could have played in 1487 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 1: the I think guys who are in the super Bowl 1488 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: deserved to be in the Pro Bowl. I think the 1489 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,679 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl should have the best of the best. Eagles 1490 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,760 Speaker 1: have like thirty eight guys. But how many of the 1491 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 1: guys in the Super Bowl would have still participated in 1492 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 1: They used to. They used to, I used to do 1493 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 1: like there was a time they did it when it 1494 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,680 Speaker 1: was in Honolulu. They would do it. The great Joe 1495 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 1: Montana wasn't many a Pro Bowl? Yeah, like that was 1496 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 1: the deal, like you do from there to there and 1497 01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: that was it. Yeah. So I don't know, alright, guys, 1498 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:29,760 Speaker 1: well higher lower today? This the all time Super Bowl quarterback? 1499 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 1: What in hell is this? Who is I just yeah, 1500 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,160 Speaker 1: you definitely need to read the description. I need to 1501 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,560 Speaker 1: know what the parameters are. All right, hold on, I 1502 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 1: had to do that too when I first. I'm going 1503 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: to read them to you. Is annual updated list of 1504 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl starting quarterbacks, which now number sixty six. It's 1505 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,839 Speaker 1: important to note that with regard to players like Unitas 1506 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,719 Speaker 1: and Star who started Super Bowls but whose peak years 1507 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 1: came before the Super Bowl era, I considered their entire careers, 1508 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: not just what they did. From sixty six onward. I 1509 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 1: ranked all qbs based on their career achievements, with regular 1510 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 1: season excellence, all Pro Pro Bowl appearances, and seasons as 1511 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: top five and top ten players at the position, carrying 1512 01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 1: more weight than just super Bowl success. So he took 1513 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: and then compiled their careers and ranked from one to 1514 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 1: sixty six. So I went from looking at this and 1515 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 1: going this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen to thinking, Okay, 1516 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,600 Speaker 1: now I said it. Sorry, Yeah, nope, that's why I 1517 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 1: needed explain it, And you take away my fun line 1518 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,560 Speaker 1: I had. I was going to give a little of 1519 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,800 Speaker 1: our ball. Never lost, never lost, Joe Montana number one, 1520 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 1: never lost, never lost, Steve Young never lost, Oh, well 1521 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:53,760 Speaker 1: played one defeated what. I don't see him on here, 1522 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 1: never lost. I don't see him in the goat pass, 1523 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 1: and I never low. There are only two people that 1524 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: are the sounder Johnny Unitus number two on the list, 1525 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:20,800 Speaker 1: higher or lower Zigura Tom Brady was number one. Well 1526 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 1: give a growing up watching Johnny Unitus, I have a 1527 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,800 Speaker 1: real appreciation for his game and what he's able to do. 1528 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 1: I would know. I wouldn't put respect on his name. 1529 01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. People used to say he was the best, 1530 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 1: but then people always said Montana was better than John Unitus, 1531 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,080 Speaker 1: So so I'm based off that lower. Here's what they 1532 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:46,600 Speaker 1: think is interesting is like I remember the Montana you know, 1533 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: being like as old as my kids were when the 1534 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 1: Montana United conversation was taking place about the greatest of 1535 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 1: all time? Um, and yeah, what I don't when I 1536 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 1: don't remember as much and we talked about a lot 1537 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 1: on a show because it's part of your youth. Um. 1538 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,040 Speaker 1: But I don't remember as much conversation around Montana as 1539 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 1: there was around Uniteds. Like it doesn't feel like Joe 1540 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,680 Speaker 1: gets brought up around Brady's stuff as much as it 1541 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,599 Speaker 1: felt like Uniteds was always hanging over Montana. I never 1542 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 1: felt like Montana was always hanging over Brady. I think 1543 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,760 Speaker 1: at times almost like Montana has been a forgotten person. 1544 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 1: I feel like we're living in different planets. Yeah, as 1545 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,760 Speaker 1: someone who is obviously younger here, I I agree with bo. 1546 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 1: I think Brady has always been number one as long 1547 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 1: as I can Ard. No, I don't. It's not I'm 1548 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,680 Speaker 1: not making up this is a hot take. I'm not 1549 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 1: saying that. No, no, no, I also are not hearing 1550 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 1: it correctly. What I'm saying is I don't know that 1551 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 1: there's been as much conversation. It felt like with Montana 1552 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,880 Speaker 1: when he was surpassing and going forward in Super Bowls 1553 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 1: that it was always constantly there was an old timer 1554 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 1: Basse who would be like, what he ain't united, He's 1555 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 1: not united? It was like, well, what does he gonna 1556 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,560 Speaker 1: take to Beam? And with Brady, I don't remember people like, 1557 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,760 Speaker 1: well he's not Montana or there weren't enough of them, 1558 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 1: And I think Joe was disrespected a little bit. Just 1559 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 1: text me goes Montana was a system quarterback and you know, 1560 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 1: see that's it, Like you get that type of stuff 1561 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 1: a lot. And I'll tell you if you say that, 1562 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 1: I feel like you didn't watch him play. You never 1563 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,439 Speaker 1: got that feeling watching him play. See you're you got 1564 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,160 Speaker 1: triggered before you even heard what I said. No, I 1565 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 1: did get triggered. He did. I was saying that I grow, 1566 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,640 Speaker 1: I had your guys back. I was probably consuming a 1567 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 1: lot more Joe Montana content than you were. But that 1568 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 1: we're always saying that when like once he won in 1569 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 1: UH eighty nine eight, when the second to that, that's 1570 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 1: when he was like, now he had surpassed United as 1571 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:36,760 Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time. There was a while 1572 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 1: when they would do the rankings where he was the 1573 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time and then Brady now beats him, 1574 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 1: But it was always uniteds in Montana. I think that 1575 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 1: Montana also has like has kind of like laid out 1576 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 1: of the spotlight per se. He has laid out of 1577 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 1: the spotlight for almost twenty years, doesn't do anything. We 1578 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 1: don't see him. We haven't since uniteds old time, or 1579 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,720 Speaker 1: who are still like United Unity? United is like my 1580 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,439 Speaker 1: dad is somebody who is very critical as you all know, 1581 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,479 Speaker 1: and has would have experience with both and he was 1582 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 1: always United Unity units. And then he turned to Joe 1583 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,080 Speaker 1: and then now he would say, Brady, Well, the other 1584 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,639 Speaker 1: thing that happened is is you know from that era, 1585 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,760 Speaker 1: those United guys like they had sportswriters who turned them 1586 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 1: into mythical creatures. And that wasn't the those There aren't 1587 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 1: those type of jobs anymore. No, Like who's the Dick Shap, 1588 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: Who's who did that for Montana? The last ten years, 1589 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,760 Speaker 1: there hasn't been anybody doing that like people did that 1590 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 1: for that generation player, like they stood up and pounded 1591 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 1: fists and said they were better. Trust me when I 1592 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 1: tell you that there aren't those people anymore. By the way, 1593 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,760 Speaker 1: to your point, you know this whole thing Hall of 1594 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,120 Speaker 1: Hall Dion's all fired up about if your first ballot 1595 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, that to me separates you from they're 1596 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 1: the first ball hall of famers, and then their Hall 1597 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: of Famers that's the hall of within the hall. Yeah, 1598 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 1: so just relax your first battle. Hall of Famer, you're 1599 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:01,479 Speaker 1: one for you. Yeah. According to at Rosenthal, one Brady 1600 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 1: to United is three Montana. Number four is Peyton Manning. 1601 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 1: In terms of the sixties six Super Bowl quarterbacks, he 1602 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,640 Speaker 1: ranks Peyton Manning number four, higher, lower or just right. 1603 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:17,120 Speaker 1: Dan Marino's at number five, Aaron Rodgers at number six, 1604 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 1: and Brett Farve at number seven. Yeah, when you rank 1605 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 1: him above those four or three other quarterbacks, um, I 1606 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: think he's it's just right at number four. And I 1607 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 1: think you can make the argument maybe he's deserves a 1608 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,760 Speaker 1: spot at number three, but I mean he's he's right 1609 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 1: up there with Brady United Montana. Um. And then and 1610 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 1: then I feel like Marina, Rodgers, Farv's is all a 1611 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,360 Speaker 1: tier lower. I feel like many kind of on his 1612 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 1: own little tier in this group of seven quarterbacks. But 1613 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,600 Speaker 1: you know we're not talking about We're not basing this. 1614 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 1: We're basing this off of his entire career. Peyton Manning 1615 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 1: was not good in one Super Bowl. I know he 1616 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: won one, but was he really good? I honestly, I'm 1617 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,720 Speaker 1: asking because I don't remember the numbers in it. He 1618 01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:07,680 Speaker 1: was the greatest regular season quarterback. He is uh, he 1619 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 1: held every at the time of his retirement. He held 1620 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 1: every passing record at the time of the league. Um 1621 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,960 Speaker 1: while playing the majority of his career before it got 1622 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 1: crazy with passing right, so um that all of that 1623 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,760 Speaker 1: I would have in third, I would go Brady, Montana 1624 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,720 Speaker 1: Manning would be the three. I would go in that order. Same. 1625 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,320 Speaker 1: This is where the list I think just gets like 1626 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,120 Speaker 1: confusing as the far as far as like what how 1627 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 1: the rankings matter here? Because what both said? I think 1628 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,800 Speaker 1: it is three? And is this are we talking just 1629 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,640 Speaker 1: about how he played at a super Bowl? Is this 1630 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 1: ultimate quarterback rankings or one? It's also it's also like 1631 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 1: how much I mean he was the offensive coordinator in Indy. Yeah, 1632 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 1: and they want to they want a super Bowl with it? 1633 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,360 Speaker 1: Was it wasn't a dungee the one time, and then 1634 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 1: he got into another one with Jim called well and 1635 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 1: then was it he got him to the Super Bowl 1636 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 1: with the Broncos with John Fox John Fox, and then 1637 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,640 Speaker 1: one one with John Fox when he was when he 1638 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:15,400 Speaker 1: couldn't throw. Yeah, I think like the all time game, 1639 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,400 Speaker 1: like I always like to do it in that and 1640 01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,000 Speaker 1: that could be the hall within the hall. They could 1641 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 1: have like two rosters, and if you're on those rosters, 1642 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 1: that represents the best of all time. Tom Brady starting, 1643 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,000 Speaker 1: for sure, Montana might be starting. But if he's not, 1644 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 1: Peyton starting, but Montana and Unitis are probably in the game. 1645 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 1: And then you could start to argue, oh, is that 1646 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,720 Speaker 1: Marino is at Rogers? I don't think it's far way 1647 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,719 Speaker 1: too high on the next number eight, honestly, so Elway 1648 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 1: should be way higher, always should be way higher, always 1649 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 1: should be in the first here yea wis five? Yeah, next, 1650 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,639 Speaker 1: and that takes us two tier number two and Greg 1651 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:56,280 Speaker 1: Rosenthal's rankings. He's got Steve Young eight, John Elway nine, 1652 01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 1: Mahomes ten, Rue Brees twelve, bart start team Bishop. What 1653 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,360 Speaker 1: stands out to you? Lay, It's incredible for him. Elway 1654 01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: should be five. I would have him ahead of Marino, Rogers, 1655 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 1: farv all of them. Um he got to he horse drug. 1656 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:22,320 Speaker 1: Three Broncos teams to the Super Bowl in the eighties. 1657 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,839 Speaker 1: God knows, we lived it right, and then they got drilled, 1658 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,720 Speaker 1: Like compare the talent on those teams to the to 1659 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 1: the Giants team they played, the forty Niners team, they 1660 01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 1: played the Redskins teams. They played, and then he had 1661 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 1: this second renaissance with Terrell Davis where they were great 1662 01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,600 Speaker 1: and they were the bet. They were so dominant that 1663 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 1: second year. Um when they beat the Falcons the second time, 1664 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,760 Speaker 1: when the Falcons upset the Vikings, Chris Chandler, Yeah, that 1665 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:57,280 Speaker 1: was that was a squad five on this list. You 1666 01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,240 Speaker 1: should be. Yeah, I put him ahead of Rena and 1667 01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. And Mahomes has the 1668 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 1: chance when this one continue doing. My Homes ultimately is 1669 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,439 Speaker 1: going to end up in this goat pasture and in 1670 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,680 Speaker 1: the conversation for being in that game. So if he 1671 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: wins this one, how much farther up does he move? 1672 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,960 Speaker 1: It's just so short. I mean, honestly, he would he 1673 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,519 Speaker 1: should be if he wins this one, he should be 1674 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,560 Speaker 1: ahead of Steve Young. Oh for sure, I'll tell you that. 1675 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,519 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something that five years five a 1676 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,200 Speaker 1: f C Championships is insane. Yeah, I was curious what 1677 01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,439 Speaker 1: you guys, where you guys thought my Homes landed on 1678 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,559 Speaker 1: this listening where he would go he won this one. 1679 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just accumulation, so like he doesn't have 1680 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 1: the career accumulation that Rogers and Farve does. Farve is 1681 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 1: way too high on this list, way too high. Um, 1682 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,800 Speaker 1: but Mahomes is Mahomes is a comment. So it's just 1683 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 1: a matter of can he play fifteen years next? Alright? 1684 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,479 Speaker 1: I want to get into to the next page, which 1685 01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 1: look at just some of the guys that stand out. 1686 01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:01,760 Speaker 1: Big Ben is number fifteen, Troy Aikman six teen, Bradshaw seventeen, 1687 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,240 Speaker 1: Bradshaws four and oh and super Bowls. Yeah that was 1688 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 1: Joe Namath eighteen. Quite different. Uh, Jim Kelly went oh 1689 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:14,639 Speaker 1: and four, he's twenty one, Kurt Warner two, Russell Wilson 1690 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,600 Speaker 1: is twenty five. The girl will start with you and 1691 01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,160 Speaker 1: then a P. I mean Kurt Warner, at least for 1692 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 1: a period of time, was the best quarterback in the league, right, 1693 01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean they want an m VP. I think Jim 1694 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,120 Speaker 1: Kelly's two looks. I think those were the two I 1695 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,720 Speaker 1: put two luck. I have two red arrows Kelly and 1696 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,599 Speaker 1: Kurt that I would put up higher. I mean, Kurt Warner, 1697 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,320 Speaker 1: like Fran Tarkentin, is better than Jim Kelly two times. 1698 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,599 Speaker 1: He was the two time m v P, two time 1699 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,720 Speaker 1: first team All Pro. He was m v P and 1700 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,200 Speaker 1: All Pro two out of three years, and in those 1701 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 1: years he was he basically led the league in pretty 1702 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,320 Speaker 1: much every passing category lesley and complete percentage, three Stree years, 1703 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,360 Speaker 1: thirty and thirty six touchdowns in twel thousand and one, 1704 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 1: twenty two picks that could you imagine throwing twenty two 1705 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,800 Speaker 1: picks to day for sport? I will say, like the 1706 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,840 Speaker 1: we talked about this before, like Aikman is vastly over 1707 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 1: raped totally. I think he would he would probably admit 1708 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,840 Speaker 1: that in terms of where he is is just a 1709 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,439 Speaker 1: quarterback and what he what he does, Like Bradshaw won 1710 01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,479 Speaker 1: an m v P, didn't he I'm pretty sure Terry 1711 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,519 Speaker 1: Bradshaw I wont an m v P. I think so 1712 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,439 Speaker 1: so Jim Kelly, five time Pro Bowler, one time first 1713 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 1: team All Pro only surprising. I would probably bump name 1714 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,680 Speaker 1: it down a few spots on this list because, uh, 1715 01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,960 Speaker 1: first off, just one Super Bowl here, and I mean, 1716 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,240 Speaker 1: I know it was a different time too, but you 1717 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,800 Speaker 1: talk about throw interceptions. You know, you go back and 1718 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 1: look at Joe Namis stats and it's not I feel 1719 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,439 Speaker 1: like every time I go back and look at his 1720 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,320 Speaker 1: career stats, it's not living up to the potential of 1721 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 1: any other QB that's considered in his tear of of 1722 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 1: this this godlike tear of qbs um, and I think 1723 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 1: I would bump him even lower on this list. Here 1724 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 1: Bradshaw three time Pro Bowl, one time All Pro, one 1725 01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:59,240 Speaker 1: time m v P, which was in seventy He completed 1726 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: which was the second best of his third best of 1727 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 1: his career fifty six point three percent of his passes 1728 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:09,880 Speaker 1: two thousand nine fifteen yards, twenty eight touchdowns, twenty picks, 1729 01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:16,400 Speaker 1: and had a quarterback rating of eighty four, which is 1730 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 1: wild to me. So I I view NFL quarterbacks stats 1731 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 1: um kind of the same way that I view baseball stats. 1732 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,280 Speaker 1: So you have to compare it. I tried to. I 1733 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 1: always think compare it to the piers at the time. 1734 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,400 Speaker 1: So the leading passer in the league in seventy eight 1735 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 1: was fran Tarkenton. He threw for thirty eight or thirty four, 1736 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,400 Speaker 1: sixty eight and sixty completion percentage. Archie Manning actually led 1737 01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,280 Speaker 1: the NFL in terms of regular quarterbacks and completion percentage six. 1738 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:49,880 Speaker 1: So it's just a different game entirely at that in 1739 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,360 Speaker 1: those days. Here's the one that's wild. You we talked 1740 01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,640 Speaker 1: about it being a different game, how many times. So 1741 01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:00,799 Speaker 1: you debuted in eight three in his first ten seasons. 1742 01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,240 Speaker 1: How many seasons of passing touchdowns are more did John 1743 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,120 Speaker 1: Elway have? And in that stretch he is a four 1744 01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,719 Speaker 1: time pro bowler. Uh, he is an m VP Award 1745 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:16,200 Speaker 1: winner as well. Probably less than five. Yeah, I guess 1746 01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:21,719 Speaker 1: I'll say right at five one, one, group two touchdowns 1747 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:24,800 Speaker 1: and that those days though you got inside the ten, 1748 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,760 Speaker 1: you just ran it three times. Yeah, you know what 1749 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,599 Speaker 1: I mean, Like you didn't cork, can't throw it. Anything 1750 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:33,320 Speaker 1: bad can happen to the past. It's last, by the way, 1751 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,880 Speaker 1: Ys Grossman appropriate so much more to come. You listen 1752 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:44,080 Speaker 1: to Cleveland Brown's Daily Cleland. Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to 1753 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:49,160 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland. 1754 01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,360 Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, I'll be back on Monday. You 1755 01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:02,680 Speaker 1: gotta you're gonna take care of the people who are 1756 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,439 Speaker 1: as week as I know that you will. My friend, listen, man, 1757 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,599 Speaker 1: have fun down in the Magic Kingdom. Let's go gotta 1758 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 1: be something. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. 1759 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 1: Gonna be something. You're gonna I feel like you're gonna 1760 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,200 Speaker 1: do a pretty elite style. So we'll see how it'll 1761 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,840 Speaker 1: be a real treat to everybody involved. Um, it will be. 1762 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I will miss you and let's be with you on Friday. Yeah, 1763 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 1: we'll do a little scores so we have that to 1764 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 1: look forward to, which is nice. The next level is 1765 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,880 Speaker 1: coming up next. Thanks for listenverybody clean, The Browns Daily, 1766 01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 1: eight fifty YESP and Cleveland. You've been listening to Cleveland 1767 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 1: Browns Daily, a production of the Cleveland Browns, and a 1768 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,160 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland