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Speaker 3: It comes to past protection when you have a quarterback

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Speaker 4: I was really proud of Fton.

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Speaker 9: You know, you got an opportunity to actually, you know,

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Speaker 9: I think the heart's the same size. You know, those

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Speaker 9: Yeah, just continuing to take one snap at a time.

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