1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian, how many of you have a yellow 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: tire pressure monitoring light on? You know that light on 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: the dashboard that's been in cars for the past ten 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: years or so, maybe a little bit longer, depending upon 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: modeling here because it was deemed necessary as per the 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: federal government. They decided, Hey, we're not checking our tire 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: pressure off enough. We're gonna make you do it. We're 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna give you a light to annoy you, the car Doctor. 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Something's causing this car to run lean, so the computer 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: is adding fuel to it. So on that assumption, then 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: we've got to go and find the Vacuumly, welcome to 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five and 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: now he running. Hey, it's time to start your engines 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: along and welcome moderating in the Car Doctor here at 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. 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Well, let me say it like this, I'm 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: upup in the mound and ready to work, as they 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: say in Major League Baseball games, most teams and um, 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to the phones that are 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: already lit up and talk to Steven Ohio thirteen four 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: and some problems with a check engine lighting and oil light. 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: These darn lights on cars, Steve, I don't know why 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: they keep putting them on. Just you know, I sell 45 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: everybody a piece of duct tape. What's going on? Brother? 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: How can I help? Um? Yeah? So, uh, I guess 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: this morning my girlfriend she went to go get in 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: the truck and take off, go go to the bank. 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: But she uh got in there, turned the key over, 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: engine starts. Um. Then she went to you know and 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: go for the reverse back up, but the oil lamp 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: light it kept blinking and lighting up and you know, 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: making some noises like that, and then the check engine 54 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: light was staying on. And then she shifted through the gears. 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: But when she put her foot on the gas, the 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: engine wouldn't even rev up, so it wouldn't go anywhere. 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: So it was just staying there whether you were in 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, reverse or drive neutral park, and it wouldn't 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: even rev up, so it wouldn't accelerate. Did she did she? 60 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: You know, did it eventually clear? Was she able to 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: just put it back in park, shut it off and 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: restart it and was it okay? No, it's it's still 63 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: the way it is. It's still doing that problem because 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm not there to take care of it or see 65 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: what exactly is going on. But so, I mean it 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: will turn on, the engine will start, it just won't 67 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: accelerate there. So you know, we got to make some assumptions, 68 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: which are dangerous, especially on family radio. But you know, 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: the first thing we obviously want to know is why 70 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: is a check engine light on if it won't accelerate. 71 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: My educated guess is there's a problem with the throttle 72 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: control system drive by wire. This has a similar system 73 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: as cars have had for more than a few years now, 74 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: where it's an electronic throttle linkage. There's two censors at 75 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: the foot at all, there's two sensors at the engine 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: and they're they're looking for opposing voltage is going up 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: and down to stay in sync with each other. So 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: the computer has failsafe methods so that you can't have 79 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: a runaway throttle or a stuck throttle and so on. 80 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: The fact that this occurred at the same time as 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: it not being able to move tells me there's likely 82 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: either an app and accelerator pedal position sensor fault or 83 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: a throttle position sensor fault in the vehicle. I can't 84 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: say a certainty that the oil pressure light is related, 85 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: but you know, let's let's start with a coade skin 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: and see what full codes we come up. Now, the 87 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: only other, the only other thing I can think of, is, 88 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: is it possible we've got a true mechanical oil pressure 89 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: problem and they're limiting engine control that way, because I 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: have seen car companies do that as well, the logic 91 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: being if the engine doesn't have oil pressure, and obviously 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: this is a lot more serious than a bad sensor. 93 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: If the engine doesn't have oil pressure, they won't let 94 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: that car run because they don't want to ruin the engine. So, 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: you know, basic common sense stuff. Was the oil changed 96 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: recently at all? Yeah, it was just changed a week ago, 97 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: and that's why I didn't understand why that would be 98 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: popping up. Or maybe the people that changed it, if 99 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: they did something or didn't do something, and well, but 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I mean it's easy to you know, 101 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: ever since the ever since syndrome. But let's start with basics. 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: How about let's just check oil level. Um, how about 103 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: we pop the hood, check the oil level, make sure 104 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: the oil fill cap is on, and you know, there's 105 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: nothing visually askew if the oil If the oil level 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: is good and it's it's clean and where it's supposed 107 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: to be. Then I'm gonna vote for And obviously I 108 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: want to do a check engine scan using a scan 109 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: towill just get in there real quick and see what 110 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: fall codes we have. We can kind of go from there. Um. 111 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: Obviously I'm not I'm gonna tell you, but I don't 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: have to tell you not to drive because the car 113 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: truck doesn't go anywhere anyway. Um, but I would definitely 114 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: want to look at oil pressure and definitely look at 115 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: a code scan before, you know, before this disappears. The 116 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: fact that it's still there, count your blessings, right, because 117 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: the fact that it's still there is an intermittent or 118 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: it's not an intermittent before it disappears, and you know, 119 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: we're talking again next week and the story is, hey, Ron, 120 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: it was there until I did this, this and this, 121 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: and now it's gone, and now what do I do? Um, So, 122 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: as as fast as you can get somebody to scan 123 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: codes on that vehicle and check the oil level and 124 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: then uh, and then we can kind of take it 125 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: from there if we have to. Yeah, that's that's about 126 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: my only option. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's all you 127 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: can do. That's all you can do it's you know, 128 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: unfortunately and and maybe someday in the future they'll do it. 129 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: But I've always said car companies need to think about 130 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: an option where you know your mechanic and and and 131 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: we have that now. Certain scan tools actually give us 132 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: the ability to remote broadcast in and and look at 133 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: fault codes. There are some manufacturers that have done it, 134 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: and there's others working on it. But for the consumer, 135 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: how about we hit these two buttons. This reads out 136 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: the engine controller codes, This reads out the trans controller code, 137 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: at least to be able to call the mechanic up 138 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I've got this fault code. Is the 139 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: car safe to drive? You know it's but you know 140 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: that's that's probably ten years down the road, probably right 141 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: around the time they make flying cars, and uh, you know, 142 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: we won't need guess Leon engines anymore. So alright, kid, 143 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: keep me posted, let me know what happens. All right, Thanks, 144 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: you're very welcome, Steve. Let's get over Lee in Vermont 145 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: fifty and uh some more trailer towing power. Lee, welcome 146 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can I help? Well, yeah, 147 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: you have two fifty six point two gas and we're 148 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: pulling a uh ten thousand pound twelve thousand pound trailer, 149 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: which is in the specs for it. But man at 150 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: at six two with a four D and where that 151 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: was at four hundred and thirty ft pounds of torque 152 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: just isn't enough. It just needs more. My thoughts are 153 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: what can I do to get more power out of it? 154 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: And I keep keep coming up with a chip. Yeah 155 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, I agree, um yourself at the super Chips 156 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: dot com um, take a look at one of their tuners. 157 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, flat out I I put one of their 158 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: tuners in the plow truck. Made a huge difference offline acceleration, 159 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: no more stumble, more bottom and more pulling power. And 160 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, it really comes back to and it's not 161 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: like we have choice, right. We can't tune anything mechanically anymore. 162 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: It's not like we can reject the carburetor. So you 163 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: know we're gonna do it electronically. But the super Chips 164 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: kit Um, their tuners give you the ability to tune 165 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: right from the driver's seat. So you don't like the 166 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: way it feels, now hit a button, change it. You 167 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: don't like the way it feels, then hit another button, 168 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: change it again. Um. You know, but I I see 169 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: people do the Super Chips routine all day long, and 170 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: they're very very happy with it, and they're able to 171 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: tune and calibrate and do what they have to do. Um, 172 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, giving you more trailer pulling power, because the 173 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: only other option is what do you do? Buy a 174 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: bigger truck with a diesel or something? And um, that's ah, 175 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: exactly right, exactly right. I know somebody under already footpounds 176 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: at torque. I don't think so well. And then the 177 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: issue becomes do you need that all the time? You know. 178 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody last week, Um, they want 179 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: to buy a trailer, and it's a question of what 180 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: vehicle do they buy to pull it. We were talking 181 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: about Ford pickups and I said, yeah, Ford makes a 182 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: great pickup truck. Go buy a Ford. And you know, 183 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: do I buy gas? Do I buy diesel? And I 184 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: had this exact same conversation. I said, you know, for 185 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: what you can do with an electronic tuning device, uh, 186 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: such as those from the guys at super Chips, for 187 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: what you can do there for the price difference, you know, 188 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: you've really got to need that diesel. You've really got 189 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: to need that for something else. For another reason. But 190 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: if all you're doing is trailer towing and the you know, 191 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, it's the go to work truck or 192 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: the commute vehicle or something else, that diesel, never mind 193 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: the cost of maintenance over the life of the truck. 194 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: Uh And my opinion goes up because diesels are just 195 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: particular animals. They require a little bardo, you know, a 196 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: little more TLC and and and and and care so 197 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: um by all means, you know, with the maintenance on 198 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: the diesel is much more expensive. Well, it's and it's 199 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: much more exacting. A diesel is a diesel is very 200 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: intolerant of poor maintenance or lack of maintenance, and you know, 201 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: for that reason, you've really got to be prepared to 202 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: take care of it. And I don't know, I'm not 203 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: a problem guy with maintenance. I do it, do it 204 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: regularly and where it's supposed to be and and staying 205 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: ahead of that. I'm a farm believer in that, and 206 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: it's always worked. But in the past we had a 207 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: one fifty with a with the Eco boost and and 208 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: pulling this nine thousand pound trailer loaded, and I never 209 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: lacked for power with that at all. Now, of course, 210 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: we're three thousand pounds heavier, and we've got a bigger truck. 211 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: And it's just and we weren't in the mountains this year. 212 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: The last three years we've been ten thousand, twelve thousand 213 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: feet high in the mountains. And that Eco boost did 214 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: the job. Be nice, Afford made at V eight Eco 215 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: Boost and life would be good out that way. And 216 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: next year we're talking about going to Alaska and doing 217 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: a really long trip. And this year we're stayed in 218 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: the southeast. And it just to me when you're pulling 219 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: at forty you're trying to do forty five and it's 220 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: ms to five thousand r p m. So it's not 221 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: good for the engine. Now you're working it way too hard. 222 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: That's what that's that's that's why you That's why Yeah, no, absolutely, 223 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: that's what I really believe. Something's got to be done. 224 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: And I didn't really want to go to the intake 225 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: the exhaust. I mean, you still got to go through 226 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: the engine and the limitations there. So and everybody I've 227 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: talked to says chip Chip Chip, so ye, super chips 228 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: dot com. You want to be disappointing Chips? All right, sir, 229 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: I have one more questions really quickly, real quick. Uh, 230 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: it likes the squat when we put the trailer on. 231 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: So we're we're we'reth the we'reth the max tongue way 232 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: or the trailer weight. And I've used air bags before. 233 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: I really didn't like them. They seem like a high 234 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: maintenance idem least they were on the one fifty and 235 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: helper springs as versus air bags. Okay, so which I 236 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: don't understand your question. I'll tell you at least stay 237 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: right there. Hold that thought. Let me pull over and 238 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: take this. Plus, I don't run too late. I'll run 239 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: any in the car. Doctor. We'll be back right after this. 240 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: That's right. If you call and we're not live, you 241 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: can leave a message and we'll call you back to 242 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: get you on the air with Ron eight five five 243 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron, there he is, 244 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: welcome back. Let's get over and talk to Leally. You're 245 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: still there, Server Vermont. Yeah, So I'm so go ahead 246 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: finish up with your question about the Lee springs. I 247 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: think you were going about so you said the way 248 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: that the trailer squats the truck quite a bit. So 249 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: thoughts are air bags or or help or springs or 250 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: overload springs, whatever they want to call them. I like 251 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: a bigger spring. I like something mechanical, all right, And 252 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: and the reason being is because the likelihood of a 253 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: mechanical spring breaking to me in my mind, isn't as 254 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: isn't as common. I think air bags are a little 255 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: more fragile as the truck gets older. Um, I like 256 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: a mechanical spring, and maybe you do a mechanical spring 257 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: with a an air bag system that you can use 258 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: to adjust and help, you know, control the way that 259 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: the truck rides shift weight. While you don't always have 260 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: to run it at a maximum load, you know, you 261 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: don't have to blow the balloon up so big, if 262 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,119 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think a mechanical 263 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: a metal leaf spring, and maybe a helper air bag 264 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: if I can say it like that. The only caution 265 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: I want to make is, this is an F two fifty. 266 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: You know I worry about trying to make an F 267 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: two fifty two with a three fifty should be if 268 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, OK, we're with just within 269 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: the specks of the two fifties. I'm not going over, 270 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: but I'm looking to cut some of that squat out 271 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: of the back end of it, and we said that 272 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: trailer down on it. Let's let's put an extra leaf 273 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: in it, and you know, and then if we want 274 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: just for the you know, we'll call it peace of mind. 275 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: We can put a couple of air bags in their 276 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: back there and when we have to add a couple 277 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: of pounds to it, nothing crazy, and give you just 278 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more support, you know. I just I 279 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: just I just like that a whole lot better than 280 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: just depending upon an air bag, because if you're drawing. 281 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: I've found that with the air bags I had on before, 282 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: they were always you know, they sometimes they'd leak down. 283 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: But now we we parked the trailer, we're gonna parker 284 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: for three days and we're gonna drive three or four 285 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: hundred miles ago. I let the air out of the 286 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: airbags and then we're hooking it up with the air 287 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: in the air bags. Where uh and I'm thinking overload springs, 288 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: so the only time they come into play is when 289 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: the weights on the back end. Then that picks up 290 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: the weight and the rest of the time you're riding 291 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: on the regular two fifties spring it rides like a truck. 292 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: It rides like it rides like it's supposed to. And 293 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: that's and that's that's my point. You know, the two 294 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: fifty doesn't ride like the one, there's no question. Yeah, 295 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: and you don't. You don't need to be on the 296 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: ride to Alaska, you know, dealing with air bags that 297 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: are uh, dealing with air bags that might be leaking, 298 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: et cetera. So Lee, I appreciate the call, Thank you, 299 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: and have fun on the trips. Send us some pictures 300 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: ron a Car Doctor show dot com rom up on 301 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: the Facebook page. Enjoy the road. Let's get over and 302 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: talk to Beth in Maine Ford explore and some problems 303 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: with blown fusees. Beth, Welcome to the Car Doctor. How 304 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: can I help? Thank thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. 305 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: What's going on? So? This is the vehicle I purchased 306 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: knew and back in two thousand and twelve and intimittently 307 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: over the years. It started in two thousand and fourteen 308 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: started having problems with blown fuse and F four and 309 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: um the first time it happened. There were multiple things 310 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: I took the car in for electrical issues. One was 311 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: the interior lights on the second and third row, plus 312 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: the lift gate lights were not working. Um they had 313 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: found something to do with a short and the vanity 314 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: mirrors on the passenger side and driver's side, and the 315 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: radio would not come on. So that was when it 316 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: all began. And then over the years there have been 317 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: I think one or two that I can't seem to 318 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: find the paperwork on. But I brought it back in 319 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: again recently, UM in January and again in June, and 320 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: it's the same exact fuse as blowing every time. And 321 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: now they're telling me, of course it's no longer under warranty. 322 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: So what they want to do. Their next steps is 323 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: to put in inline fuses and to see you know, 324 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: where the concern arrives or or if it even returns again, 325 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: and to chase those circuits down, um, to keep isolated, 326 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: you know. And I'm thinking this is just I'm seeing 327 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: dollar signs on this, and and it's it started way 328 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: back when the car was under warrantine of course, for 329 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: it is not really interested in and participating in chasing 330 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: electronic issue which can be elusive. I didn't know if 331 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: you've seen this. I haven't seen that particular problem, but 332 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: I like what they're doing. I have to tell you 333 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: um ever ever string Christmas lights and the lights don't light? Yes? 334 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: And where do you start? You start in the middle 335 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: or do you start at the ends. I'm gonna start it. 336 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start in the middle, guy, all right, I 337 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: start in the middle, and I pick a direction. And 338 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: you know, that's basically what they're doing with the fuse. 339 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: They're they're they're taking a fuse and they're putting it 340 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: in the middle of the circuit and seeing which which blows. 341 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: Does the F four fuse continue to blow, which tells 342 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: them that the fault is that way. If it's they're 343 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: one of the new ones, they add, it tells them 344 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: the blow is the other way. At least they're they're 345 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: splitting the circuit down into smaller circuits to get a 346 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: direction and a definition. So what they're doing is correct. 347 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: The you know, it shouldn't have been done under warranty. 348 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: You know, you need the wisdom of Solomon for one 349 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: of these bests. And I think the answer becomes, you 350 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: can't answer it, and they can't answer it until they 351 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: fix it, because and I think you have to approach 352 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: them with that. You've gotta at least say, are they 353 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: open to that you know it's it's because when they 354 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: find that the wiring harness was pulled too tight around 355 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: the tailgate or around the corner and it cut into 356 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: a seam that you know, and then they can go, yeah, okay, 357 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: we did this wrong at the factory. You know, maybe 358 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: then they'll give you some consideration. I had a Taurus 359 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: last year that was blowing the fuse for the shift interlock. 360 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: And this was a This was a fourteen year old 361 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: Taurus and the overhead dome lights, the shift interlock wouldn't work, 362 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: and a few other things. When I tracked it down, 363 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: the wiring harness coming out of the center pillar, the 364 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: one just behind the driver's seat, the wiring harness went 365 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: down and around, looped around the front seat frame. When 366 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: they put the seat in. At the factory, they pinched 367 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: the harness. It took fourteen years for it to work 368 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: its way up. They get aggravated. Go back to Ford, 369 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: see what they say and take it from there. Call 370 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: me back if you need more help. I'm run any 371 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor. Hey, event from vanderbynk Autins is 372 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: coming up next. Don't go away, We'll be back right 373 00:18:52,720 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back, right in the car. Doctor. Our 374 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: next guest gets too well. I don't know if she 375 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: considers it work. I think it's fun. Although I'm sure 376 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: there's a work ethic here and there's a work side 377 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: of this that uh kind of wears you out. But um, 378 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: go to go do something you love every day of 379 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: your life and you'll never work a day of your life. 380 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm not sure if if it's going to 381 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: agree with me at Vanderbig vanderbynk Auctions, Welcome back, darling, 382 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: How are you hey? How are you all right? Gee? 383 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: You know it's got to be like going to the 384 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: toy store every every day, getting to do what you do, 385 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: picking up these uh auctions to distribute and and and 386 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: you know, disperse out dreams that people have of you know, 387 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: reliving their childhood or making new ones. You know, it 388 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: really is fun. I um, you know you walked into 389 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: one of these barns where people have had their collections 390 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: and you know, like when I went up for last 391 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: November up to Michigan for Tom Brown's sure we're gonna 392 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: be doing in a couple of weeks. I mean I 393 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: went in this one of three buildings and it's full 394 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: of Camaro's Chevel's. I mean, I was flashing back to 395 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: my high school, high school years, you know, in the eighties, 396 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: when everybody could buy those things for five hundred bucks. 397 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I can't help but think. And I 398 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: watched the YouTube video and for those of you just 399 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: tuning in, we're talking to him at Vanderberk VanderBurg Auctions. 400 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: There's a big one going on. This is outside Kalamazoo, Michigan, 401 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: coming up event. Yeah, that's right, We've actually got a 402 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: few of them. And uh, this is outside Kalamazoo, Michigan. 403 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: And it's a gentleman named Tom Brown. And he bought 404 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: for years and years in the seventies and eighties out 405 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: in California, would bring him back to Michigan and sell 406 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: him and then he would keep them for himself. And 407 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: he had two tragic events. Uh some years ago his 408 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: son and his daughter died and he just quit, just 409 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: shut the doors and uh and he now is realized 410 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: in his seventies that you know, it's time for this 411 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: stuff to go away. And so a lot of guys 412 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: when I was up there I was talking to him, 413 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: they thought he had died too. And so, um, you know, 414 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: because he was the man back then, and so it's 415 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: interesting that this is his collection. And I mean, we 416 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: must have twenty Camaros from sixty seven to eighty two, 417 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: and I bet there's ten sixty nine and uh, you know, 418 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: twenty Chavell's and I mean, it's just the list goes on. 419 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Do you ever think you know where does 420 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: this end? Or when does this stuff? Do you? Do 421 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: you ever go to the barn finds and say, Okay, 422 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: there can't be another collection like this out there, and 423 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: then three months later you find the next one. Does 424 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: it ever come to an end? Event? No? Not really. Um. 425 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: I just did another one similar to this in in 426 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: South Dakota in June, which was all motars and uh 427 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: back in the same time frame. They had called me 428 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: and we went up to South Dakota to a farm 429 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: and there was a hundred and twelve mo parts on 430 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: this farm and it was everything from Roadrunners, super bees. 431 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: There was a seventy road Runner convertible, you know, they 432 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: only made eight hundred and twenty four of them, and 433 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: there was projects. They were all projects. But this was 434 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: a farmer who loved moparts. In fact, he still had 435 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: his seventy Challenger and seventy Kuda High School cars. He 436 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: never got rid of anything. And that auction. Actually, if 437 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: you go and find a August hot Rod magazine, it's 438 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: on the front cover. Wow, I think I saw that 439 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: the barn find Yeah, the steering there's a steering wheel 440 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: and the shot and there's a yeah yeah yeah. And 441 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: we worked with that one and a lot of cat 442 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: crap on that one, but uh, you know, it's always 443 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: really fun. I just was working with a family here 444 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: also in Wisconsin that called me in the winter here 445 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: and they couldn't get in there, and they heard his 446 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: wife's dad had died. And he goes, I don't know, 447 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: and I don't looks like junk to me. And so 448 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: I went out there. I said, well, where what's in there? 449 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: And he goes, well, it's Cadillacs and buicks. And I said, 450 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: do you have any pictures? Well I took a very 451 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: dark picture, and I said, is there anything with big 452 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: fins on it? Oh? Yeah? And so I got pictures 453 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: and went out there this spring and they finally we 454 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: finally got him out the beginning of June. I took 455 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: him out of this building that was full of raccoons. 456 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: Horrible little animal and anyway, there's eleven fifty nine Cadillacs 457 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: in this thing, and there are two fifty nine Cadillac 458 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: convertibles El Dorado britz Has they only made and twenty 459 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: And when I was doing inventory, um, the husband came 460 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: out and he goes, is there anything here event that's 461 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: worth anything? And I said, you are kidding me, aren't you? 462 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: And he goes, no, We're going to crush it. And 463 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, you're serious. And as 464 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: I'm doing inventory, here's a fifty three Buick skyl Are 465 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: convertible again less than a handful remaining, and that was 466 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: Grandpa's car, family car. And so there were forty total. 467 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: And that is an online only auction that we're doing. Um, 468 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: because of the location where they're at you can't get 469 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: anybody in there, and we've moved some and but it's 470 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: always fun, you know. There is one thing, and I 471 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: mean I talked to the guys at Hemmings, which is 472 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, Hemming's Motor News and Weekly, and we talked 473 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: about the future of the hobby. Whereas at our auctions, 474 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: thirty two and under is not there thirty two years 475 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: and younger is not there. But why aren't they there? Well, 476 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: and that was gonna be you know, that was gonna 477 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: be one of my questions where you know, as as 478 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: the older folks, that's me male, right, you know it's 479 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: it's but my kids aren't interested in hot rods. I 480 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: mean they like it. That's car they get, but you 481 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: know it's not they're not gonna be chasing that HEMMI 482 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: kuda for a million dollars or whatever it is. You know, 483 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: ten years from now, they could care less what happens 484 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: to the hobby. Well, we've been talking a lot about 485 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: that actually, and and I have a theory on that 486 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: or a hypothesis you should say, is we need to 487 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: uh talk, I mean, we need to communicate. And so 488 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: it would be like when I grew up in South Dakota, 489 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: my dad collected Chevrolet and we went in the pickup 490 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: and in the truck and in the car with him, 491 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: and we could spot fifty seven Chevy fins sticking through trees. 492 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: And that's what my dad collected with fifty seven Chevallet. 493 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: And so we were along everyone. We knew all the stories, 494 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, we knew Grandpa's cars. The family was more 495 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: a family unit. You did everything together, and I'm not 496 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: saying it's bad, but everybody's doing everything and got their 497 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: own agenda, and we're losing all these stories. So what 498 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: do you why would you collect? You collect what you remember, 499 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: You collect what has meaning. So, like my kids grew 500 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: up with my husband and I as collectors, and we 501 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: have Chavells and internationals, believe it or not, and uh 502 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: um travels and pickups and bunch of tractors and anyway, 503 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, so my kids know my husband's fifty five 504 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: step side fifty five Chevy and they were little kids 505 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: riding and that, and they know my sixty five chavel 506 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: and so you buy what you have memories for. So 507 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: if we don't communicate, take our kids two shows, take 508 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: and talk to grandpa, Take and tell those stories. You 509 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: are not gonna buy what you remember. So we're as 510 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: an auctioneer, we're selling a lot of our heirlooms and 511 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: heritage and uh when we have. I'm not saying anything 512 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: bad about younger people, because my daughter's and millennial and 513 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: she's wonderful, and I know a lot of other ones. 514 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm fifty three and I still grew 515 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: up with my mom at home and my dad at 516 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: home on the farm, and we did everything, and uh, 517 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: those stories were there. We were at Grandpa's three times 518 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: a week, you know. And and so you know, you 519 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: went to farm sales, you did everything. You talked to everybody, 520 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: and every neighbor knew everybody, and and you had a 521 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: lot of stories. You communicated face to face. And that's 522 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: what I think we need, you know, And I think 523 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: we need to get people involved in car shows, tell 524 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: stories and talk, tell those stories that families have. Hey, 525 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: real quick, evet, before I let you go. I was 526 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: looking at the list of what's available up there at 527 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: the auction in sixty seconds or less, A big, a 528 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: big block Chevelle station wagon with a four I saw 529 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: that and I went, I didn't even know they made 530 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: that car. That's real. Very few, very very few. Yeah, 531 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: four hundred four speed, it's insane, you know. And we've 532 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: got multiple tripower corvettes. There's an LS six chevel there's 533 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: a sixty eight Commaral with ten thousand, six hundred miles. 534 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: What the heck spent a whole life racing the famous 535 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: Burgers Chevrolet. It's just really wild and it's always fun. 536 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: The biggest thing for me is working with these families, 537 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: you know, like the family in Wisconsin. Get them some 538 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: money because she was just tired of dealing with this stuff. 539 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: And it just is a joy for me to go 540 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: in and help these When when does this take place? Even? 541 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: Give us this, give us the skinny real quick. Well, 542 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on. You can check 543 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: the website vanderbrnk Auctions dot com. But do excuse the 544 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: August nine am Kalamazoo, Michigan, about fifteen miles outside Vicksburg, 545 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be on a farm literally middle nowhere 546 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: and selling sixty seven muscle cars plus five huge loads 547 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: of big black parts cool beans. Vanderbring Auctions dot com. 548 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: I'll I'll do that again when I come back from 549 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: the break. Even I gotta go him up against the 550 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: clock as always, always always fun to talk. Listen you um, 551 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: you stay in touch, all right, don't disappear on me, 552 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: all right? You take good care. Bye bye, I'm running 553 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: nading in the car doctor will be right after this. Doctor, 554 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: welcome back. Want to name the car doctor. Let's go 555 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: and talk to Sandy in Wisconsin. Oh seven Chevy Aveo. Sandy, 556 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? Thank 557 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: you for taking my call. I had talked to you 558 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: before about the blinking flashing engine check engine light. It 559 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: flashes sometimes in its steady either one or the other 560 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: all the time, and you asked me to go get 561 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: some codes, and so I've got the code numbers were after. 562 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: There's four of them. I don't know if these are 563 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: zeros are olds, but it's like p O three oh three, 564 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: p O three o O, p O three oh one, 565 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: p O three oh two. Okay, so it's it's reporting 566 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: misfires on various cylinders in the engine. Okay, all right? 567 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: Does the engine run rough when I take off? When 568 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm driving it, it kind of pushes, it kind of 569 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: cuts out as I after I shift. If I step 570 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: on it too hard, it will hesitate briefly in several 571 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: different times, and I shift down or else. Once I 572 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: get it going, it goes okay. But when I go 573 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: up to steep winding hill, I used to be able 574 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: to go up the fifth gear. Now it takes sometimes 575 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: have to put it down into third gear. And my 576 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: son told me I shouldn't drive it home up that 577 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: we have steep winding hills over a mile long. When 578 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: and that's when when I noticed the most problem. That's 579 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: when it really starts flashing a lot. Sandy refresh my memory. 580 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: So it's it's got a check engine light and it 581 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: doesn't run well. Has a mechanic looked at this yet? 582 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't recall that part of our conversation. He well, 583 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: I took it over here and he checked the code 584 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: because you you told me before. It gets the code numbers, 585 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: and I'm going to have this looked at. Um. One 586 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: person said the timing bell, I am fifty seven thou 587 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: eight hundred miles on it right now, and he's about 588 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: the timing belt change with be the only thing that 589 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: it would be needed. But then if the check engine 590 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: light goes on, then there would be more diagnosis to make, 591 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: and I wonder if it's even worth getting at fixed 592 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: with a bunch of repairs that are also one is 593 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: this is for the control armed bushings they're pulling through fos. 594 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about. So let'slet's back up because I've 595 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: only got a limited amount of time. UM, let's talk 596 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: about the misfire faults. Uh do you ever mode the 597 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: lawn I have in the past? Okay, you ever you 598 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: ever start you ever start the lawnmower and it doesn't 599 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: run smooth. I guess, yeah, kind of chugs. Maybe you 600 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: forgot to take the choke off and the engine starts 601 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: to run rough, and then you put the choke off 602 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: and it runs okay. Usually had someone else started for me, 603 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: so I'm not familiar with that. All right, Well, the 604 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: point becomes that even a simple, little one cylinder lawnmower 605 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: engine can run rough, and the way you would diagnose 606 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: that is pretty much the way you would diagnose your 607 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: veil engine. It's the same thing. Is it ignition, is 608 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: it mccannical, or is it fuel related? For someone to 609 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: say it's a timing belt, I just don't see it. 610 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's possible that the belt jumped 611 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: the tooth, but then why did the belt jump a tooth? 612 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: So there's some diagnosis that has to be had. I 613 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: think the best advice I can leave you with is 614 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: find a mechanic that will diagnose why it's misfiring, and 615 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: get that repaired first before you get anything else repaired, 616 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: or at least get it diagnosed. Get it pay for 617 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: a diagnosis, all right? You know, walk into repair shop? 618 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: What do you charge to diagnose something. What do you 619 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: think it's gonna take. Here's the information I've got so far. 620 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: If somebody says, well I think it's this, or I 621 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: think it's that, thinking isn't diagnosing? Thinking is a guess? 622 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: All right? I diagnosed it to this. That's a diagnosis. 623 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: That's what you need, darling. You've got to go and 624 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: get that done now before you spend any more money 625 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: on control alarms and timing belts and anything else. So 626 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: let's leave it there. I've got to go. I'm up 627 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: against the clock. Get a diagnosis for the misfire fault. 628 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: If the car is broken. Now it should be fairly 629 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: clear cut to diagnose. I can fix every broken car 630 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: that somebody ever put in front of me. I would 631 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: think a lot of other mechanics can to zero nine 632 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: zero zero. We're back right after this. Welcome back, running 633 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor. We are here just winding 634 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: things down. I got Lucy, the winder dog in here 635 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: with me. She lies down on the floor. She says, 636 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: I've had enough. I'm putting the dog to sleep. Is 637 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: that good? Her? Bed? Quick piece of email? Hey Ron, 638 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: I've been a long time fan of your radio show. Anyhow, 639 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: I remember you not being too supportive of the out 640 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: e four six, either new or from at least return 641 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: due to maintenance expense, especially north of the sixty thousand 642 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: mile level. I don't know if this is still true. 643 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: And actually that's not true. This from Craig Um, that's 644 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily true. It's not that I'm not a fan. 645 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: I just want people to have reasonable expectations. I should. 646 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: I should preface things right here and say, you know, 647 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: you've got a real life. Cars are a lifestyle. How 648 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: much lifestyle can you afford? You know, if you're a 649 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: cup of coffee from seven eleven person and you decide 650 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden the upgrade the Starbucks, and maybe 651 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: that's that's not a bad analogy, right because seven eleven 652 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee is tony. How much is a 653 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: cup of coffee at seven eleven? It's gonna be what 654 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: two and a half three bucks? I don't know. I 655 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: used to get my coffee from the man on the 656 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: coin in Manhattan, which is a dollar a dollar, right, 657 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: And then for you, for an upgrade, it would be 658 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: to go into Starbucks, right, and my my wallet won't 659 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: allow me to do that, right. That's what five bucks 660 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: six bucks. So you know, going from you know, and 661 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: every day of four to Chevy something more mainstream to 662 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: an outy is really going from that dollar cup of 663 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: coffee to the five dollar cup of coffee. It's a 664 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: lifestyle change. So it's not that I think they're bad cars, 665 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: but they're expensive to maintain and support, and that's the 666 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: key anyway. Craig goes on to write, I was wondering 667 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: if this is true of the new Golf g T 668 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: I two Leader Turbo with a six speed stick. I 669 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: like the car, but don't want to acquire a money pit. 670 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: I hope you can help keep up the good work. 671 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for your help, Craig. Car is your lifestyle. For 672 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: Craig and everybody else. You know, buy something you like. 673 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: When it breaks, you won't mind fixing it. When it 674 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: means maintenance, you won't mind maintaining it. But you know, 675 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: is it a terrible car? You know what, there's a 676 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: butt for every seat and I'm saying that clean because 677 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: it's radio. You gotta like the car, and if you 678 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: like the car, you won't mind spending money on the car. 679 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: They do tend to say like this. Higher line vehicles 680 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: tend to require more high line repairs and maintenance during 681 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: the life of it. But that's the lifestyle I'm modinating 682 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor, the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.