1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: On today's episode of Drive to the Draft podcast, we 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: got top ten wide receiver rankings. Jason and my list 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: are very different. We have a very good debate who 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: is number one? Tuned in to find out, and we 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: got the fastest forty assigning positional value in the draft. 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: It all starts right now. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: It's the Drive to the Draft Podcast. I am just 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: a guy, Jason, and I'm here with ten year NFL 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 2: VET Logan Paulson. The talk of the town in San Francisco. 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Apparently, Yeah, after Fred's a little bit there. You should 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: check it out on what was that get loud? 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: They did that? 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: Ye loud live from the super Bowl? 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I Get Loud live from the Super Crazy was 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: the super Bowl? By the way, Uh you know what 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I Yeah. 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: So we're recording this on Monday, the day after the 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, so these are fresh takes. We haven't talked 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: about it yet, even though you're like one of my 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: great friends. We just haven't talked about it yet. 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: You we have talked about it. 22 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: You don't know this, but we have talked about it 23 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: because you've given me very strong takes throughout the New 24 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: England run to the playoffs, and they come in the 25 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: form of memes. Memes usually, yeah, which is what that's 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: what friends do, right, they send each other memes. 27 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: We don't like talk, right, we just speak to each 28 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: other in in meme forum, which is memes, say and 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: just humor, which is a defense mechanism that people have 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: when they don't want to talk about serious things. 31 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: But you're a good friend of mine, so I send 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: you memes, thanks, but I appreciate it. Uh. 33 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I've always thought that the it's just my 34 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: whatever take, right. I've always thought that the Patriots were 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: just this year's kind of version of what Washington was 36 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: in the sense of like a certain type of schedule, 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: new coordinators, like a lot of free agents that come in, 38 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: and everything just kind of clicks, and then it gets 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: really hard when you run into established teams. So with Washington, 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: it was the Eagles, and uh, with the Patriots, it 41 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: was the Seahawks. And that's to take nothing away from 42 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: the Patriots or what they did this season. It's just 43 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: some times how football go is like those are established teams. 44 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, so I think that's a great take. 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: And the other thing that I took away from it 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: is you look at Seattle in terms of rebuild going 47 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: from what they were to what they are now and 48 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: what did they do. 49 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: They hit on a bunch of draft picks like three 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 3: or four years in a row. 51 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: And so I think it's really this show right now 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: every year seems to be so relevant this time of 53 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: year because you look at how Phillies drafted, look at 54 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: how Seattle's drafted, you look at these teams that are 55 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: in the show and the dance, and there's no coincidence. 56 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Everyone talks about scheme coordinators, defensive coordinator, Mike McDonald, all 57 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: these different elements, but to me, it's the personnel is 58 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: so huge. And so that's why this process is so 59 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: fun for me, this offseason process, because I do think 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: how you handle the again, the offseason acquisitions, the drafts, 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: free agency, it leads you to this point. 62 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the fit into your scheme right especially with Seattle's defense, 63 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: the players that they drafted, it's like, these guys fit 64 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: exactly into the scheme that we're doing, which we've talked 65 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: about before. You've talked about like it's not just best 66 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: player available. You got to pick the best player in 67 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: a position that you need that fits your scheme. It's 68 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: like a lot of parts in the choosing draft picks 69 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: here for teams, and they did a really good job. 70 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: They've done it defense. 71 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: They've done a good job with the defense, finding situational 72 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: pass rushers, defensive tackles, you know, not like obviously positions 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: of value. But then again, I think the thing that 74 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: this defense showed, and then last defense, last year's defense 75 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: showed is the value of that dime linebacker, that nickel linebacker, Witherspoon, 76 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: m and Worri this year, Cooper Dejen last year. Just 77 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: how impactful that player is now and how if you 78 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: have a stud there, how it just elevates your defensive me. 79 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: Do you think that Caleb Downs could fill that role? 80 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: I do think so, And I think that's one of 81 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: the reasons why like we're gonna be talking about like 82 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: him as potentially a top ten pick is because you're 83 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: going to see the ecosystem around that position change. I 84 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: think the one argument you'd have against Caleb Downs, which 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I think is a little bit tenuous, but I'm going 86 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: to present it. I don't believe it, but I'm gonna 87 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: present it, is the lack of length that he has. 88 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: When you look at Cooper Dejen, He's six one and 89 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: a half. He's got long arms, em and Worry is six'. 90 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Three he's got crazy long, arms, Right so do you 91 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: need more of a linebacker type, build you, know in 92 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: terms of, height, body you, know like to fill that 93 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: role or is it just? Again even another argument would 94 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: Be Brian branch, like they're very similar to kill Like Caleb. 95 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: Downs to me Is Brian branch and he's been excellent 96 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: in that. Role and sometimes you just need a good 97 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: downhill football. Player SO i think that's one of the 98 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: reasons why everyone's, like you can't take a safety at. 99 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Seven to, me you're not taking a safety at. Seven 100 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: you're taking a nickel linebacker at, seven someone near the 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: line of, scrimmage WHICH i think would a had a 102 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: ton of value to this defense here In. Washington, yeah 103 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: my brother texted me last night during a. 104 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: Game he, Goes, man this game is. BORING i highly disagree, 105 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: Too just me. Right, LIKE i know a lot of 106 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: people said, that like you, know the offense for either 107 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: side wasn't really cooking like how you see. Sometimes but, 108 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: MAN i tell you, what the defenses were fun to, 109 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: watch both of, them but Especially seattle And. LOGAN i 110 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: was getting psyched as A washington fan because some of 111 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: the things That seattle was doing is some of the 112 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: stuff that you talked about that our NEW Dc jones 113 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: might bring. Here right in that sort of style like 114 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: get after you show zero, drop some bring some overloads 115 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: and you just don't know where it's coming, from and 116 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: you can see what it can do to the runner 117 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: up by one vote for THE. Mvp And drake may like, 118 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: quarterbacks it's tough for, them, man. 119 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: It's tough for. 120 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: Them AND i think you're seeing more teams adopt versions 121 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: of it because of how Successful minnesota has. Been, Obviously 122 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: seattle is traditionally like. This you, Know Vic, Fangio we're 123 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: gonna play, Coverage we're gonna rush for play light box 124 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: and all of a, sudden, gosh everyone's at the line of. 125 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Scrimmage we're bringing. Everybody IT'S i loved. 126 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: It it was. 127 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: Great and THEN i think you look at, again you 128 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: look At New england, too and they one of the 129 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: reasons they were successful down the, stretches they adopted principles of. 130 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: That you look At. Atlanta one of the reasons they 131 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: led the league in sacks as they did principles of 132 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: that as. Well so again you see these, trends and 133 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: it's cool to See washington kind of getting ahead of 134 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: some of these trends with the hire Of Deante. 135 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: Jones, well one of the. 136 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: Things that you're going to need to be able to 137 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: beat these defenses some weapons on. Offense so that's what 138 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 2: this POD's. About we're going to talk about the wide 139 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: receiver class in this. Draft it's also a position that 140 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: some people are looking at For, washington a position to 141 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: fill that wide receiver spot next To. Terry we don't 142 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: know what's going to be happening With, debo and some 143 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: of the other players on the roster For washington Include 144 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: luke McCaffrey but coming back from an, injury And Jayalen 145 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: lane another, injury but also a younger. Guy we don't 146 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: know where he's going to be in, Development so we 147 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen with free, agency but 148 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: it looks like there's spaces in the wide receiver room 149 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: to be. Filled, yeah so a lot of people are, talking, 150 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: hey why not a wide, Receiver try and go get 151 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: somebody opposite Of terry, here. 152 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: AND i, think you, know it's more like just offensive, 153 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: playmaker you, know just give the offense or. TEETH i 154 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: think when you look at offenses that have been historically very, 155 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: good looking at THE LA La, rams looking at The 156 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: San francis forty nine, ers one of the things that they 157 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 1: do a good job of is having offensive. Playmakers now 158 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are different because it's the tight. 159 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: End they do have AN x receiver In Peer, saw 160 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: but he's kind of nicked, up but it's tight end 161 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: and running back For San. Francisco and then you look 162 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: AT la and it's these two excellent receivers with a 163 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: dominant tight end position, group, right and they've kind of 164 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: backlogged that. Position then you look at a team Like, 165 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: detroit which. 166 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: Is much more. 167 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: Traditional, Right we've got a stud z wide receiver and 168 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: am And Ross Saint brown who can move around the. 169 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Formation you Got Jamison, williams you Got Jamior, gibbs Got Sam, 170 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: laporta and it's much more. Diverse BUT i think that 171 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, here and this is the first 172 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: podcast we're going to really talk about, it is offensive. 173 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: Playmakers and, again the receiver is kind of the position 174 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: that everyone thinks. About, again it is very offensive line 175 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: and quarterback, dependent but it's a critical position in terms 176 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: of adding some, teeth some making defenses scared of what 177 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: you can. 178 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: BRING i think there were periods last year where we 179 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: saw no. 180 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Terry people are banged up on the, perimeter debos banged, 181 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: up and we've shotten out guys that are FINE nfl 182 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: foot players but don't have that game changing ability and 183 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: how defenses are able to adjust to. 184 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: The word weren't ready for that. Role like you look 185 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: At luke. McCaffrey i, mean he played really well when 186 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: he was his number was called to be take a bigger, 187 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: role And Jayalen lane like they played. Well but when 188 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: you're drafting some of these, guys you're wanting them to 189 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: be two three year developmental, pieces like you're slowly moving 190 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: them to that. Role and then when you have, injuries 191 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: and this is true for any, team when you have 192 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: injuries and suddenly they're thrust into a different, spot there's 193 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: growing pains there because they're not expecting to get there that. 194 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: Quickly so it's asking a. LOT i would say, that 195 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: like you tell me If i'm. WRONG i think That 196 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: washington's offense has the core that's needed, here AND i 197 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: mean that by you have your offensive line seems pretty 198 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: stable there especially with the trade For. Tunzel josh connerly 199 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: looked great the sacond half of the. Year you can 200 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: talk about the other the. Interior the offensive line very 201 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: solid cause me all pro. Level so the offensive line 202 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: looks to be in a good. Spot you're happy with. 203 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: It you got your quarterback and you got your One i'm, 204 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Terry so you have the pieces to be effective right. 205 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: Now the question is if you start adding other pieces to, 206 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: it do you Become, okay this is a top, tier top, 207 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: ten top five even. Offense maybe all we need is 208 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: one of these wide receivers to get. 209 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: THERE i think that's exactly. Right AND i think this 210 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: is going to be interesting to talk about and it'd be. 211 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: Cool it's gonna be cool to go to the combine 212 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: and talk with some of the scouts and some of 213 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: the coaches a little bit more specifically about this. 214 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: Group but, YEAH i do think this group the. 215 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: Offense and let me answer your, question the offense here 216 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: In washington would benefit mightily from a number two wide, 217 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: receiver whether that comes in free agency or in the. 218 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: DRAFT i will SAY i think we talked about this, 219 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: briefly that this wide receiver group was really hard for 220 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: me to like rank because like, stylistically there's some pretty big, 221 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: differences there's some pretty big deficiencies in this. Group we 222 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: also are going to start offensive. Tackles we might do 223 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: that show for next, week haven't decided, yet or offensive. 224 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: Line even that group's getting a little. HARDER i think 225 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: it speaks to the lack of true top in this. 226 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: Draft and it was funny because AS i was going, 227 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: through it's xt like IF i had, more IF i 228 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: had a pick in the third round Like washington, does for, 229 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: EXAMPLE i like some of those receivers better for the 230 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: value than picking a receiver at. Seven and we're going 231 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: to talk through some of these guys and give a whole, 232 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: breakdown but it's it was just a very unique group 233 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: to talk through and look at because every YEAR i 234 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: feel Like i'm so, Spoiled like Coming i'm, like, oh, 235 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah like you Know tetro, McMillan he's he's a for sure, 236 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: one or you Know Marvin Harrison, junior mylik Neighbors Roma dune, 237 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: say oh those guys are all. Studs this was a 238 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: much different. Dynamic AND i think looking at your list 239 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: that you sent AND i have my list in front of, 240 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: ME i think there's a lot of differences in how it, 241 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: yeah a lot of, variants AND i think it just 242 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: speaks to how people are going to value different traits 243 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: from this very eclectic receiver. 244 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: Group it's funny you mentioned. 245 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: That so your boy over, HERE i did forty EIGHT 246 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: i watched for. You do you watch them on The? 247 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: Ultimate are you watching cutups on most of those? Guys You? 248 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: Know What i'll do Is i'll pull up a full 249 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: game And i'll watch like THE tv broadcast sometimes AND 250 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: i can watch like two or three guys in one 251 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: game because a lot of them are from the same. 252 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: School SO i watch a play and THEN i just 253 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: go back rewatch the play and watch the other. GUY 254 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: i do that to get basic things THAT i can 255 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: catch on THE tv. Copy but then IF i am 256 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: questioning something OR i don't understand how something, worked because 257 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: the other thing is THE tv. Copy whenever sometimes there's, 258 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: plays they will show That madden cam and you can 259 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: see the routes even in the, Background SO i don't 260 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: need to go to all twenty two's for that Because 261 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: all twenty two is sometimes difficult to a get a 262 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: hold of and be fined right, Like so the only 263 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: TIME i go to all twenty two with these. Guys 264 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: is if there's SOMETHING i just am, questioning LIKE i 265 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: can't figure, out And i'll go there and see IF 266 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: i can't find it. 267 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: There, sure so forty two, guys. 268 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: YES i, no forty eight. Eight SO i watched forty. 269 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: Eight now here's the. THING i try and watch at 270 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: least two games of all these, guys and in some 271 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: of THEM i watched The obviously we had The East 272 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: West shrian and The Senior bowl, practices SO i feel 273 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: LIKE i got a good feel on. Them here's Why 274 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: i'm bringing this. Up this isn't to hype myself. UP 275 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: i got the forty eight BECAUSE i hit a point 276 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: WHERE i just felt like they all were the same 277 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: AND i wanted to keep watching UNTIL i found someone 278 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: that was. Different AND i don't mean the same as 279 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: like they all look the same or moved the, same 280 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: but they just kind of like all felt LIKE i 281 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: could take this guy or this guy you know how 282 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: you tear things. Out they felt like they're all falling 283 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: in that same. Tier it's LIKE i JUST i need 284 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: to find the guy that's gonna move up one just 285 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: a little bit in one way or. Another so partially to. 286 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: Me this speaks to the depth of the wide receiver. 287 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: Class there are a lot of guys here that can 288 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: be helpful for a, team but finding that the gem 289 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: is going to be really hard. 290 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: Here, yeah it's gonna be really really, challenging BUT i 291 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: think we should probably get. 292 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: Started we're gonna do top ten, today, Right so, yeah 293 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: we're doing top tens, yep for. Sure so three, three 294 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 2: we'll talk about them three, three three, three and then 295 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: our number. One so, okay all, right So i'll go 296 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: first BECAUSE i always like saving the best for, last 297 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: so that would be. You so number ten for me 298 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: Is Elijah surat From, indiana number nine Is Josh cameron From, 299 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: baylor and number eight Is Chris bell From. 300 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: Louisville all, right so my three Are Malachi fields at, 301 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: Ten Chris bell at number, nine and Then Jeremy Bernard 302 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: at From alabama at number. 303 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: Eight all, right So i'll Do. Surrat let's Save Malachi 304 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: fields Because i'm gonna have them a little bit. 305 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: Higher. 306 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: Yep So i'll Do. Surrat then you do. 307 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: Who is The Chris bell And Jeremy bernard are the other. 308 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: Ones then you Do Jeremy bernard and then we'll Do 309 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: Chris bell. 310 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: Together and, also just for the, Record Elijah Sharratt surat 311 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: is my number, seven so he's very. 312 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: Close oh, okay well then we'll talk about him. Then 313 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: so then start with your start with your guy THAT 314 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: i don't. 315 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 3: Know So Chris. 316 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: Bell So Chris, Bell well we both Have Chris. BELL 317 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: i Have Chris bell at. Eight, yeah here's your number. 318 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Nine Is Jeremy. Bernard talk About Jeremy bernard From. Alabama 319 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: is he's what is he six to? One he's two 320 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: hundred and ten pounds something like, That AND i JUST 321 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: i just fell in love with. 322 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: Him. 323 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: MAN i just think he's a football player in the 324 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: truest sense of the. WORD i think he runs excellent. 325 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: ROUTES i think he's got a great. FEEL i think 326 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: they they line him all up up all over the. 327 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Formation he lines him in the backfield to run choice. 328 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: Routes they use him in. Motion he puts his face on. 329 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: PEOPLE i think he's tremendously. Physical there is a little 330 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: bit of hot cold to, him BUT i think the 331 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: like when he's, on he is. 332 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: On. 333 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: MAN i think he catches the football. NATURALLY i think 334 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: he's got a great kind of instinct with the football 335 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: in his, hands like he is a football Playing jesse 336 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: in the truest sense of the. Word and again everyone's, like, 337 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: man look at the sons of you're like this. GUY 338 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: i love this. GUY i think the thing that stuck 339 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: out to me is, LIKE i just wonder how. Fast 340 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: so to, me like the combine is going to be 341 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: a big deal for him BECAUSE i think he could. 342 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: Play just watching the, FILM i think he could be 343 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: a TRUE z wide, receiver so for The, commanders a 344 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: perfect complimentary To terry being THE x wide. Receiver and, 345 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: again like the route tree that he, ran the nuance 346 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: that he runs. 347 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: Routes w's like how he protects the. 348 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: Football i'm talking when he runs, routes like pushing to 349 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: that depth and taking a nice negative angle. 350 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: Back to the football to catch the. BALL i just 351 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: love all that. 352 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: Stuff and again the, stems the, breakdowns it's very technical 353 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: from a route running, standpoint AND i think, again like 354 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: that coupled with the physicality as a, BLOCKER i think 355 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: really speaks to an, excellent excellent football. 356 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: Player all, Right. 357 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: SO i do have him on my list at. SIX 358 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: i love, him all. Right he's in the ninety ninth 359 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: percentileand drop. Break he doesn't drop the, ball which is 360 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: number one thing for. Me if you're a wide, receiver 361 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: receive the. Ball here's WHAT i said about. Him go 362 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: with me on, This, okay all. RIGHT i think he 363 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: may lack pop end, speed as you were leading. To 364 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: he can be stiff at and that gives him some 365 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: toughness with. Separation but route running technique is pretty darn. 366 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: Good AND i said, here but damn, it, man if 367 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: he isn't a football Playing johnny, here he just clearly 368 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: loves a. Game he's a. Dog get him the, ball 369 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: watch him get, physical run. Downhill he's just AN a 370 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: plus football. PLAYER i think his hands ARE a. Plus 371 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: his ball tracking his a. Plus he's, physical, contested catch. 372 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: Demon his catch to run is really. Smooth that transition, 373 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: Right it's just there's no wasted, step catch and go 374 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: and a three level. Threat he's a. Blocker he gets after. 375 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: It so here's WHAT i called. HIM i called him 376 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: a little Deebo samuel. Cleohon if you're going to use, 377 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: HIM i would use them like How cliff Used debot 378 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: last year When terry was also a part of the. 379 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: Offense get this guy in the. Ball let him run 380 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: violently and he. Can you can get them the ball 381 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: on all. Levels you can get them in, sweeps you 382 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: can get them in, screens you can get them on, 383 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: digs you can get on, slants and he'll be effective 384 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: on all these. Things that's kind of HOW i saw. 385 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: Him i'm not saying he is going to be as 386 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: productive As deebo, is but he reminds me of that 387 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 2: type guy that could be a part of your. 388 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: Offense, yeah so to, me HE'S i Think debo does 389 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: his route running a little bit of an injustice just 390 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: as a Compet, Again deebo is such a special. Player 391 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: you have another guy on your list that was just 392 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: off the top of mine in terms Of Josh cameron 393 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: that we should talk about. Here he was in my 394 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: honorable mention. Group but he reminds me a lot Of 395 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: Deebo samuel like he like like WHEN i watched him 396 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: him just like there's So but the thing About jeremy 397 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: IS i think he does a really good job with 398 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: the route running stuff the new like he can play 399 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: true receiver Right AND i THINK i love the way 400 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: you described how he caught the. Football there is a 401 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: little bit of Like Puka tokua to his game right 402 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: where he's good after the. Catch he's grounded through the 403 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: catch like he's a he's a hands. Catcher he's his 404 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: hands are independent from his, body so he tracks the 405 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: football really. Well like that kind of player is what he. 406 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: Is he's a little bit skinnier build than Like Puka 407 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: nakua for, example but think of him more like in 408 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 1: THE amca And Buka Jackson smith And jigba like. 409 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: THAT i think he runs harder than those. 410 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: Guys so BUT i think the what you're looking for 411 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: there is like the in terms of comparison is just 412 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: like the movement to the route and so like, again 413 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: LIKE i think after LIKE i think with the ball 414 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: in his, hands he runs much more Like puku A, 415 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: Kua but AGAIN i hate making a comparison to. 416 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 3: Like maybe the second best receiver in. 417 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: Football so Like i'm just, saying like that's the skill 418 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: set you're looking at with, him and SO i love him. 419 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: Again he's going to be in this weird no man's 420 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: land for The commanders where he probably goes in the second. 421 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Round but if he's sitting there at seventy, One i'd 422 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: be doing backflips quite. 423 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: Honestly, so all, right you want to talk About Josh. 424 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: Cameron he is my number. NINE i love. 425 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: Him. 426 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah So Josh cameron for me was like right out 427 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: of the top group, here and he went To. Baylor 428 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: so all of the THINGS i just said About jeremy 429 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: are going to be a little bit different. Here so 430 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: the route Running nuance isn't quite there the like, this 431 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: the subtlety with at the catch point isn't quite there 432 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: the same. Way like he's not he is a big. 433 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: Athlete he's sick one and a. Half he's two hundred 434 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: and twenty five. Pounds it looks, Thick, yeah he's he's 435 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: two undred twenty five. Pounds he's a big, guy, right 436 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: and then he ALSO i think he had thirty three 437 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: inch arms at the com at The Senior. Bowl so 438 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: like he he looks like kind of this weird body, 439 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: type this, thick long limbed, guy and with the football 440 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: in his, hands he just runs like an absolute. Maniac, 441 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: Right so he kind of has some of this fifty 442 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: to fifty contested catchability where he's like out jumping people 443 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: and getting on and you, know moss and. People but 444 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: he's also got the ability to catch like a dig 445 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: or something across the middle and outrun people with great 446 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: physicality break. Tackles but it's that offense is so hard 447 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: to project receivers from because it's not it doesn't it's 448 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: not them creating. Space like At, Alabama bernard had to 449 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: create his own. Space he had to operate in a 450 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: NORMAL nfl ish type. Offense, Right and we're going to 451 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: talk about that, offense and we talk about the offensive 452 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: line and next week or. Whatever that was maddening to 453 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: watch for the offensive. Lineman but we'll talk about that another. 454 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Time BUT i do think there's a lot of debo 455 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: to him where it just this dude is a. Freak 456 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: he's an. Athlete he can. Run the nuance isn't, there 457 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: which why he's not on my. List SO i tended 458 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: on my list comparing him just kind of eyeball on 459 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: your list to my. LIST i tended to prioritize the 460 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: more technical route runners because those guys tend to be 461 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: playing a little. Bit that transition seems to be a 462 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: little bit easier for. Him but in terms of physical, characteristics, 463 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: yeah like this is a guy that's got them. 464 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: All, yeah he's On feltzman's frequent. List he squats two 465 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: sorry five twenty year three ninety. Five, yeah he cleans three, 466 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: nineteen hit twenty one point six miles per hour ON 467 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: gps this, year one drop in one hundred and two. 468 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: Targets you, KNOW i like when in recents catch the. 469 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: Ball he had sixteen contested catches this, season which is 470 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: tied for ninth in all of college. Football and he returns. 471 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: Kicks, yeah he. 472 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: Just, say like you're gonna. SEE i have a theme 473 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: here with some. GUYS i like guys that played football 474 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: and they play it physically an Aggressive. 475 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: He definitely does. 476 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: That he's, big he's. Thick he wears number thirty. 477 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 3: Four it looks like a running. 478 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: Back, yeah maybe that's tricking my brain because he's running 479 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: out as a wide receiver with number thirty. Four but 480 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: he moves big and, balky uses his frame well with, 481 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: that has good. HANDS i don't. KNOW i think he's 482 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: kind of savvy in his route. Running i'm not saying 483 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: it's cis crisp or, clean BUT i think he sees, 484 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: DB's knows what they're trying to do and can set 485 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: them up very. WELL i don't. KNOW i really like. 486 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: Him my concern speed's not quite. There route running's not. 487 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: Crisp not crisp for. 488 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: Sure the speed you can't. TEACH i think he can 489 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: teach up The christmas of the route. Running SO i like. 490 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: Him but he's number nine Because i'm betting on the athlete. 491 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, NO i think that's exactly. 492 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: Right and SO i actually miscounted here my list Because 493 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: i'm doing it off a. Spreadsheet, sure so he's actually 494 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: my tenth, guy and So Jeremy bernard would be my seventh, 495 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: guy just for the. Clarification BUT i do like him a, 496 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: lot obviously made my top, ten but more of a 497 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: projection as opposed to a, YES i. 498 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: Would agree with. That, yep all, right you want to 499 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 2: Talk Chris bell here From. 500 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: Louisville, Dude, man this was a pleasant, surprise. Bro LIKE i, 501 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: WAS i don't know WHAT i was. Expecting i'd heard 502 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: some people mention, him and he was like he's At. 503 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: Louisville LIKE i remember watching some of the guys last 504 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: year that were undrafted free. Agents so The washington last, 505 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: year just the, offense and what's he gonna? BE i got, 506 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: strong STRONG Aj brown vibes WHEN i saw him, play 507 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: just the way he caught the football like the way 508 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: he was after the, Catch like he has this great 509 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: catch and run VERSUS jmu where he catches a, slant 510 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: breaks a tackle and then walks off on the. Defense 511 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: now IT'S, jmu but like the after the, catch the, 512 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: strength the hands like. This this was A x receiver all, 513 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: day every day and twice On. Sunday LIKE i just 514 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: was blown away by. Him and it's, like, Well, logan 515 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: why is he? 516 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: Number what does? He what is? 517 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: He he's, uh he's number eight for me and then 518 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: he's number eight for. You is that? 519 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: Right so it's because he TOWARDS acl like the. 520 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: Last week of the season, basically so stud stud tracks 521 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: the ball, well good route. Running nuance more of a 522 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: power route runner as opposed to one of these kind of, 523 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: slinky subtle route running. Guys like he's a horsepower, winner 524 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: but coming off AN acl. Tear so like, Again i'd 525 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: probably be be in my top five if if the 526 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: injury wasn't a. 527 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: Thing SO i agree with everything that you're. SAYING i 528 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: would say that he just the opposite. END i don't 529 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: think he has any trait that's. 530 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: The, elite, YEAH i, think but he. 531 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: Is very solid at just about. Everything so that to. 532 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: Me the reason he's at. Eight for, me this is 533 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: a high, floor. RIGHT i love the high floor and 534 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: maybe coaching and over the years getting better working on your, 535 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: craft that floor can start the. Rise. Right but right 536 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: now he's not a leade in. Anything maybe he does get, 537 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: there but he's so good at all the things that 538 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: you can find a. Role he's. Versatile you can find 539 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: a role for. 540 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: This, YEAH i think a lot of people would, have 541 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: Like Chris brasel From tennessee in this. 542 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: Range he's six to, five he's two hundred. 543 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Pounds they're the route runner In Chris, bell even though 544 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: he's very, raw is much MORE nfl. Ready like his 545 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: ability to stop and start and get out of cuts 546 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: and fight through contact is significantly better to. Me and 547 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: again the you know it's it's it's just too, bad, 548 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: man BECAUSE i think he would be a first round 549 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: draft pick. 550 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: If he had AN acl in one of his. 551 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: Knees like that's how LIKE i was so, like, again 552 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: you talk about watching guys and they're all the, same 553 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: they're kind of this guy's just saying this guy's the, 554 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: same and this guy just was kind of in a 555 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: sea of the same and he just popped out AND 556 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: i was, like, yep this is this is a stud 557 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: and so again because of the injury and where the 558 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: rehabs at and we'll see what the combin looks like for. 559 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: Him but at seventy, one to get a player like, 560 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: this if he is close to being ready for the, 561 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: SEASON i think it would be an absolute coup de 562 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: gras for The washington. 563 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: Commanders all, right let's do our next. 564 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: THREE i think this is where it's going to get 565 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: a little fun for. Us, yes we're going to vary. 566 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: HERE i had a number seven for me Was Casey 567 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: conception FROM Nc. State number six Was bernard From alabama 568 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: we just talked. About and then number five Is Denzel 569 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: boston From washington or any of these two The boston 570 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: or concepts you on higher on your list THAN i. 571 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: Have, yeah, Both casey'll. 572 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: Talk about this. Later so the, seven, six and five for, 573 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: you let's talk about. 574 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: Them SO i messed, Up So Jeremy, bernard, seven six 575 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: Is Elijah sharratt who you have on your list at, 576 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: ten and Then Malchai lemon would be what is that 577 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: five for? 578 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 3: Me, yeah SO i Have lemon Higher surat. Lower so 579 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: this is where we're kind of like just, differing which is. 580 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 3: Fun it's fun for. Conversation so let's talk About sarat 581 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: first and then we'll move To. 582 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Lemon, yeah So surat was an interesting was kind of 583 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: a labor of love for. 584 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: Me Like, Indiana, Yes. Indiana so he's like six to. 585 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: TWO i think he's like two ten or two. 586 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: Fifteen he's a bigger body, guy but he's kind of 587 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: like got like he looks like a, bodybuilder kind of 588 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: like he's got like shorter. Limbs he's like stouter to the. 589 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: GROUND i wouldn't be surprised if he measured shorter than 590 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: what he was at the. 591 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: Combine like he just looks a little. 592 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 2: BIT i wrote down that he doesn't look as big 593 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: as his numbers. 594 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: Direct, yeah and SO i was a little bit disappointed 595 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: WHEN i started WHEN i watched his highlights because, again 596 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: like it's so much Of mendoza just placing the ball, 597 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: perfectly back shoulder, throws like he's contorting making, catches but 598 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: really It's mendoz elevating. Him and so he's a guy 599 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: Where i'm watching like all twenty two AND i watched 600 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 1: probably four games of this, dude AND i got to 601 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: this point WHERE i was LIKE i think this dude 602 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: is an absolute stud because they took him basically from 603 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: THE x receiver spot where you see him Versus miami 604 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: and The National championship where you saw him Virus Ohio, 605 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: state and they had him do some stuff from the 606 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: slot AND i was, like, oh like this makes sense to. Me, 607 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: yeah like the, suddenness the, acceleration the, burst grounded through 608 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: the catch like him And Jeremy Jeremy bernard are Are 609 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: they're basically the. Same great for, me almost exactly the. 610 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: SAME i just, think, SIR i think they are the. 611 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Same they're just different body. Types So bernard's just kind of, long, 612 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: languid more fluid kind of athlete that's got this great 613 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: physicality after the. Catch Elijah shat's a little, squattier but 614 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: all the things THAT i think play at THE nfl 615 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: level are on full display for. Him he is grounded 616 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: through the, catch he is, tough he blocks his face. 617 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: Off he can win a fifty to fifty contested catch ball, 618 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: again same thing With. JEREMY i worry about his top end. 619 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: Juice so the combine's going to be big for. Him 620 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: but in terms of a competitive football playing wide, receiver 621 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: you can line up all over the. FORMATION i think 622 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: he's got. IT i think again with both him again 623 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: in terms of, receivers like if you just want guys 624 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: like cut on the tape and see, like oh what 625 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: a great, release what a great, stem what a great 626 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: kind of indicator at the top of their. Route both 627 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: these guys are. Excellent it's just what kind of athlete 628 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: are they going to? Be and that's why the combine 629 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: is so important in my opinion for these. 630 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: GUYS a little bit With surat for me is you 631 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: can get caught up in like An ia the beholder 632 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: thing with him. Sometimes so WHAT i mean by that 633 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: is BECAUSE i personally went through this when watching him 634 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: is what you said at the very. Beginning it's like 635 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: he's running nines outs and slants and Like mendoza is 636 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: just putting the ball right. There so how much of 637 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: that Is surat Versus mendoza elevating each? Other but you know, 638 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: what he knows how to run those. Routes he uses 639 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: his body really. Well he's not afraid of. Contact so 640 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: those back, shoulders maybe they're throwing that because or running 641 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: that for him Because mendoza can put the ball. There 642 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 2: maybe they're running it because that's a great skill set 643 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: That surat. Brings maybe it's a little bit of. Both 644 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: my point is you can knock them for that or 645 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: you can credit him for. That and you can find 646 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: a lot of that with how he. PLAYS i think 647 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: he's strong and aggressive uses his. Body, look there's something 648 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: to the clutch, thing like at big time, moments he's 649 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: making big time. Plays there's something there for, me, Right 650 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: and THEN i just think he's excellent in those intermediate, 651 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: routes like he's just not afraid to come over to the. 652 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: MIDDLE i don't. Know, yeah his speed doesn't look all that, 653 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: like it's not. 654 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: He's more of an. Accelerator, yeah, exactly it. 655 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't he's not gonna outrun a whole lot of. People 656 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: he doesn't look. BIG i don't. KNOW i JUST i 657 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: think he's got something. There this playmaker ability and the 658 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: things that he was asked to Do indiana he did very. 659 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: Well So i'm not gonna discredit that from. Him, yeah, 660 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: Right AND i think his best he's ten for. Me 661 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: so it shows you that there's not everything is, there 662 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: but there's. 663 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: Enough AND i think the thing that got me going with, him, Honestly, 664 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: jason because the slant the go the back shoulder fade 665 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: stuff was again. 666 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: Concerning it's when they moved. 667 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: Him around the formation and they let him run some 668 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: different stuff that's really like popped for. Me and again 669 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: that took for him and that, offense it took a 670 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: long time for me to. Find it took a long 671 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: time for me to find those. Clips and so BUT 672 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: i think the, suddenness the, professionalism how he catches the, 673 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: football like the thing you, said like like he plays 674 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: receiver in a very specific, way which is again like 675 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: that's WHAT i think plays at THE nfl at the. 676 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: Moment, Yeah i'm gonna real. QUICKLY i don't mean to 677 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: stay on him for too, long But i'm kind of 678 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: reminded about HOW i felt with THE lsu receiver With 679 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: Jaden Brian. Thomas oh, yeah in the sense that AT 680 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: Lsu Brian Thomas. Jr was asking very different, players by the, 681 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: way very. Different but my point is in, this in this, 682 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: scheme he was asked to do very specific. Things here's 683 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: your go, route here's your back shoulder right, like and 684 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: then at the combine it's, like, oh look at, that 685 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: we had great routes at the combine really sunk his 686 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: hip AND i think both of us were, Like, oh 687 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: he's got that in his, back, right he just wasn't 688 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: asked to do that AT. Lsu What i'm saying is 689 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: for you at the, combine the, speed it's gonna be 690 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: important for. You i'm, saying when he runs these other, 691 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: routes let's see how he, moose BECAUSE i THINK i 692 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: think he's got it. There it looks like he. Might 693 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: SO i don't know combine is going to be big 694 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: for his Run for. 695 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: Me, NO i think you're absolutely. Right, YEAH i can't 696 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: again like it right. NOW i think he's to kind 697 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: of that second round. Range BUT i think he's a 698 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: heck of a football. Player all, right you want to 699 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: Do Malachai? Lemon, YEAH i mean he's higher On. Neurless, 700 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: yeah he's my number. 701 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 3: Two so do you want To so do you want 702 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: to wait till we get to the? Two? 703 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: NO i think we. Can no one cares about WHAT i. 704 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: THINK i. 705 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: MEAN i, think let's. Wait do you want me to 706 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: sell him real quick and then you tell me how 707 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: you yeah about? 708 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: It all? 709 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: Right so he's uh the five to, eleven one ninety 710 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: pound receiver from USC. Uh he had a massive jump 711 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: in production this, year he went from fifty two receptions 712 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: to seventy nine three touchdowns to. ELEVEN i think he's 713 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: physical in the run. Game that's the first PLACE i 714 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: want to. Start, yep he's skinny and, small, right he 715 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: looks that way. Comparative if you're gonna take somebody this high, 716 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: up maybe you want someone that's kind of built more 717 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: in the PROTOTYPICAL. X he's not exactly. THAT i would, 718 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: say like think of Like Johan dotson's body, type just 719 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: like to get that kind of. Framing he's around. There 720 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: JOHAN i think was a little, taller but it's about 721 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: the same as far as. 722 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: Built to, me he reminds when he started to cut you. 723 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: Off he reminds me a little bit of Like Amanas Saint, 724 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: brown a little bit like he's not as big as, him, 725 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: though but He but they. ARE i think they're weigh 726 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: exactly the. SAME i think. 727 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: They're, yeah but he's, taller Aman ra is a little. 728 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: Taller, NO i think they're both five to. ELEVEN i 729 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 1: think They're, OKAY i double double check while you're looking at. 730 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: Stuff my point is it's not the movement That i'm talking. 731 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: About i'm just talking about like when you have them 732 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: spinning on the thing In madden right when you're building a, 733 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: character that's what that's their what their frame looks. Like 734 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: SO i do wish he was a little bit, Taller but, 735 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: man is he a. Baller he's excellent at tracking the. 736 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: Ball his hands are really. Good he's very, physical and 737 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: he gets nasty in a run. Game. 738 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: Man, uh he knows how to use this leverage sheet and, 739 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: uh he's pretty. Twitchy even when he's moving at high, 740 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: speeds he's still got that twitch to. HIM i think 741 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 2: he's pretty polished off the. Line his size can get 742 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: him in trouble with long arm, dbs as you would. 743 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 2: Expect and while his speed is, great he's not super 744 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: dynamic with the balls in his. Hands but, but but, 745 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: OVERALL i think he might be the best pure wide 746 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: receiver in the class as far as the small technicalities 747 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: that he. Does AND i think if HE i think 748 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: he still has room to grow out with. That so 749 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: he got better from twenty twenty four to twenty twenty, 750 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 2: FIVE i think he'll still get. Better AND i just, 751 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: like if you're going to bring this guy, IN i 752 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: think he's going to be just AN a plus wide 753 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: receiver for. You so he's my number two overall because 754 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: he's shown that. GROWTH i think he continue you can 755 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: have that. Growth so it's kind of that like high, 756 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: floor super high ceiling thing for. Me that's WHY i 757 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: like him so. 758 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: Much, yeah so, again LIKE i DON'T i don't really 759 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: disagree with anything you said. 760 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: THERE i think he's. TOUGH i think he's. 761 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: COMPETITIVE i think when new ball's in the, air like 762 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: for a guy who's five to, eleven, like he is 763 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: a dog like in terms of his ability to like 764 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: go up and like high point the football and fight 765 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: through contact like he's got it man like as a football. 766 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 3: PLAYER i love. Him and again he kind of to 767 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: me he feels more like. 768 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: The Elijah Sharat Jerryman bernard as opposed to the top. 769 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: Guys and then the REASON i say that is because 770 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: AS i was watching his, TAPE i just kept coming 771 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: back to this. Question i'm, like you're a really good football, 772 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: player but what is your role at the next? Level 773 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: and so that's something that ALWAYS i have to remind 774 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: myself is the college game is different than THE nfl, 775 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: Game and where do you? Fit, like DO i think 776 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: you can be a PERIMETER z wide? Receiver and after 777 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: watching him run routes because he does so much from 778 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 1: the slot AT. USC i basically was, LIKE i don't think, 779 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: so now go to the combine runs, well looks different 780 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: on the, perimeter like MAYBE i feel differently about. It 781 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: AND i got to watch more film on. HIM i 782 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: only watched two games on. Him, again he's a dog, 783 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: Competitor he's incredibly, Tough LIKE i love watching the, film 784 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: BUT i think he's a slot only. Guy and then 785 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: WHEN i started watching the slot only, STUFF i was, 786 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: like is he sudden enough in the short? Area LIKE 787 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: i think he's again like he's he runs good, corners 788 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: he runs good, seams runs good overs when he's got to, 789 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: run like those little angle routes And texas. Routes like 790 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: WHEN i think of slot, RECEIVERS i think of Like 791 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: Zachariah branch From, georgia like this stick your foot in 792 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: the ground or breaking across people's. 793 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 3: Face Your, edelman's. 794 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: Your Wes, welker's your hyper, twitchy Your Wandel robinson up 795 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: From New. York AND i was, like does he have 796 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: that kind of twitch to? Him and my big QUESTION 797 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 1: i ULTIMATELY i said, no just watching him go down 798 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: to down and that's why he's the fifth guy for 799 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: me because, again like a pure slot, EVE i don't 800 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: care how tough you. ARE i don't care like you 801 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: got to have some inside outside flexibility because then you're 802 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: only going to be on the field in eleven. Personnel 803 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: and that's WHERE i kind of see him a little bit. 804 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Differently but in terms of what the way you described, 805 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: him like the, toughness the, competitiveness LIKE i think that's 806 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: all there for, him AND i do like the football. 807 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: PLAYER i just don't see the ceiling the same way as. 808 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: YOU i don't THINK i, gotcha AND i did a 809 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: little look up for, you SO i Have according to This, 810 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: Mackay lemmon is five eleven one ninety and raw is 811 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: six foot two hundred, right so pretty close the REASON 812 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: i Said johan with the build five eleven six so 813 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: right there though to me they looked this. 814 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: Way they just play so differently they. 815 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: Do i'm talking about the. 816 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 3: Bottom but JUST i don't want you. 817 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: To play differently BECAUSE i just want to say this right, 818 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: Away makaya limit like one of the knocks Where johan 819 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 2: is he could get pushed. Around you're not going to 820 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 2: have that With. 821 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: Lemon he's way more physically tough Than johan was coming 822 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: out Of Penn. 823 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 3: State. 824 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, Uh Denzel, boston you want to talk. 825 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: About, Him he's the next. One he's number two for. 826 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: Me so, oh let's save it, now let's save. 827 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 3: It SO i think we're on m Malachiye fields, now 828 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 3: because that's four for, you, Right. 829 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: Malachi fields is four for? Me and who was he 830 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 2: for Us? 831 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 3: Kin he was nine? 832 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: Nine, okay how do you want to do? This you 833 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: want TO i just sold lemon this, Time so why 834 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: don't you talk to me About Malachi fields and Then 835 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: i'll try and take what you say and give you my. 836 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 2: Opinion see if we can't move the needle. 837 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: Here SO i think when you watch like a highlight 838 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: reel Of Malackye, fields you're going to be, like, dude 839 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: this guy's a, stud and he is a, stud. RIGHT 840 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: i think he's got a great catch. RADIUS i think 841 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: he tracks the ball. Well he's six,' four he's two 842 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: eighteen to, two twenty he's got, long arms he tracks. 843 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: Football well looks great in that Helmet From. 844 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: Notre dame looks great in the Helmet From. NOTRE dame 845 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: i think you watched the stuff From The senior bowl 846 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: has the catch of. THE week i think does a 847 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: great job in one, on ones can win on a 848 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: slant again like the, FOOTBALL player i think he. BLOCKS 849 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: well i think. HE'S tough i think, he's urgent like 850 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 1: when you're Watching These jeremiah love, touchdown runs like he's 851 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: always in the shot and he's on ber zero blocking 852 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: people down. 853 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 3: The field like love that. 854 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: About him the thing that just kept coming back to 855 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: me At The senior BOWL when i watched his tape 856 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: is he is he's, making tough tight contested catches because 857 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: he's not a great. Sudden separator and when you look 858 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: at people and at the receiver position that play well IN, 859 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: the nfl they are. Sudden separators AND so i just 860 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: kept saying, to myself is he? That SUDDEN and i 861 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: am the big you Won't find i'm a fan of. 862 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: Big receiver i'm. The fan i'm the biggest fan of 863 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: big receivers. THERE is i, love THEM but i understand 864 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: the LIMITATIONS and i understand what's. Playing now and to 865 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: me At The, senior bowl like when he gets when 866 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: he runs, that dig that, deep dig he's getting a 867 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: little sticky at the top and the guys can break through, 868 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: the contact and so, for me like what is his, 869 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: actual role like what is his? Actual CEILING and i 870 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: think maybe you can make an argument IT'S Like. T 871 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,479 Speaker 1: higgins i'm NOT sure i see that level of mover 872 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: necessarily in terms of short. Area quickness, but yeah like, 873 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: the player, big body love. THE compete i heard he 874 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: interviewed out of his mind At The, Senior bowl so 875 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: teams are going to fall in love. OF them i 876 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: just worry about the ceiling from a not a long, 877 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: speed standpoint from a acceleration deceleration kind of. 878 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: Twitch Standpoint GOTCHAM so i HAVE a i have a 879 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 2: theory on why you probably interviewed so former quarterback is 880 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 2: realer SMART and i think that that. SHOWS up i 881 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 2: think he definitely understands what defenses are trying. To DO 882 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: and i think he's a pretty savvy route runner when 883 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: it comes to that only one, drop again, YOU know i. 884 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 2: LOVE receivers i catch the ball seventeen point five yards. 885 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: A reception i love that for a guy that's as 886 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: big as. He is normally you see that from the. 887 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: SMALLER guys i think he has really good speed for. 888 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: His size now he's not gonna be the best but for, 889 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: his size as big as, HE is i think it 890 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: speeds that's. Gonna, PLAY now i hear you with, the 891 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 2: separation because it's not, the speed it's you get a, little, 892 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: Stuck RIGHT and i. HEAR you i don't know that he's, 893 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 2: necessarily twitchy and sometimes he has separation when he's putting 894 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 2: his foot in the ground and trying. To MOVE but i, hear, 895 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: you right that's where he needs. To work, but man 896 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 2: does he know how to use, his body great, body 897 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 2: control really. Sure handed he's competitive one, of them, you 898 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: know he's just he HAD bad qb plays still balled, 899 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: Out MAN like i just there's something about this guy 900 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: where he has like. An IT and i know that 901 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: that's not the best evaluation as far as like. Great 902 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 2: analysis but the THINGS that i like about him so 903 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 2: drastically outweigh the things that kind of get Stuck that 904 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: i'm putting them up here at number four because he's 905 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: so big and he he's just. So smart he's, so 906 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 2: savvy and he's so, sure handed and he has those 907 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: highlight catches he had won At The. Senior bowl he 908 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 2: also has a crazy Catch against pitt this. Past season 909 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: like he just has that stuff where IT'S like, i 910 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: think this is just, a, Playmaker right so THAT'S why 911 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 2: i have Him, so hiight this is a playmaker that 912 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,479 Speaker 2: has THAT prototypical. X build he's, not perfect but he's 913 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 2: got he's. Got. 914 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: It, Yeah no i'm, with YOU and i think, the 915 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: AGAIN like i. LIKE him i like this type. Of 916 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: player it's JUST like i THINK about nfl dbs and 917 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: when you are not short, area quick like they eat. 918 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: You UP and i think that's the Thing that i'm 919 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: having a hard. TIME with i just can't get, Past 920 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: that like if it's a pressman situation and it's time 921 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: for me, to separate it's it's one of the, Things 922 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: AGAIN like i Love trailing burkes as much. As everybody 923 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: it's one of the THINGS that i think has hampered. 924 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 3: His. 925 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: Career right you see these crazy circru like, you know 926 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: acrobatic catches where It's like i'm jumping over a guy 927 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: one hand. And stuff It's because i'm not short. Area 928 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: quick i'm not short, area sharp and that is SOMETHING 929 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: that i worry a little bit about with him in 930 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: that bigger, body again like you're Talking About chris bell 931 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: as a point, of comparison kind of another big wide 932 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: Receiver Like chris bell's got this great burst in and 933 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: out of. His cuts he's got this great diamond release 934 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: of the line. Of scrimmage that's not how he's like. 935 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: Biologically wired i'm Talking. About malik what's, His? NAME malik 936 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: i feel MAL Like i, Field, Sorry yeah and so 937 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: again that's where, It's like i'm trying to learn from 938 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: Past mistakes, i've MADE and i feel like he's a 939 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: GUY that i would for sure make a mistake on in. 940 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: The past becaut because right now that, short area burst 941 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: and quickness is at. A paramount i'm ready to make 942 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: the mistake. On, HIM logan, I know i. 943 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 3: GET you i. GET you I guess I'm gonna i'm gonna. 944 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: Make the mistake when we do our our draft Of 945 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: Like absolute ballers or. SOMETHING later i think your boy 946 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: is going to make a mistake here with. 947 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: THIS guy i just love if it's gonna be a mistake, 948 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: BECAUSE again i. Like him He's the he's the ninth 949 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: player on. MY like i don't, dislike, him Yeah but i'd. 950 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: Take him give you like if you're taking him at, 951 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 1: Seventy one, i'm, happy RIGHT but i do there are questions, 952 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: with him RIGHT and i think like the other the 953 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: es as they as you move off, THE. 954 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 3: List i have, less questions is really what it boils. 955 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: Down, TO yeah i. Got you this is Why we, 956 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: Uh look i'm just. A guy you're. 957 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 3: The program, you know you're a job with the receivers 958 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 3: the last couple. 959 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 2: Of years so, All Right Uh, Denzel boston. 960 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 3: So he's number two? For me do you want to 961 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: do him? 962 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: Right now oh, that's right you did. Say, THAT no 963 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 2: i don't want to. Do, him now Let's. Do casey 964 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: concept is number four. 965 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 3: For me he's number seven? For you, all right why 966 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 3: don't you? 967 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: Do conception so conception, for me like it was a 968 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a labor, of love much like the 969 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: other guy on, This List josh cameron or some of 970 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: these GUYS that i just had to watch a lot 971 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: of football on to get a, feel for because like 972 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: they run all these like like little short, you know, 973 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: stop routes, crossing ROUTES and i, was like he's just 974 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: a slot receiver, because man is he? Hyper quick like he's, 975 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: hyper twitchy like his ability, to burst like sell false 976 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: indicator like all those things we just talked About That 977 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: malexi fields is a hard time, with like This's not 978 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: Casey conception, On's issue like he's excellent. That STUFF and 979 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: i think the reason he's one for Me Above makay 980 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: lemon IS because i think he can. PLAY outside i 981 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: think he's that kind of, twitchy ATHLETE and i do 982 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: think there are limitations to. His game like one of 983 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: the things that makes me really NERVOUS is i don't 984 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: know how physical. He Is and i've seen physical receivers 985 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: not play very well AT the, nfl level And so 986 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm just i'm really relying on the movement skills the 987 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: competitor at the catch point because there's a bunch of 988 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: clips of him like jumping over people and make great catches, 989 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: one handed body, control stuff and again the horsepower and 990 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: the twitch in those legs is. Very unique and so 991 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: again that's why he's four, for me Just Above. Makhay 992 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: lemon why is he had seven? 993 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 2: For, you well he has elite twitch, And, bursts okay it's, 994 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 2: very good beautiful hip sinks and explodes right out. Of 995 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 2: that he opens his hips TO the qb in zones 996 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 2: like very technically, sound there dynamic with. The ball he 997 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: attacks and fights for the ball like you were talking 998 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: about there and guess what he. RETURNS kicks i. Love 999 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 2: that here's why he's down. For, me okay, smaller. 1000 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 3: Build very what is? His weight he have his waiting 1001 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 3: in front. 1002 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 2: OF you i have him listed at five. Eleven, seven 1003 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 2: yeah he might. Be smaller he. 1004 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: Looks hey, you know we Talked About malachai lemon looking bigger, 1005 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: And thicker like he's a guy that looks smaller, and 1006 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: slighter and so like some of, These guys, like really. 1007 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: It's fun i'm going through, my List Like malachi lemon, 1008 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: Looks Bigger elizah schatt, look shorter but his thick. And 1009 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: strong jeremy looks very well put together like all. These 1010 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: guys he is on my, list anyway and your list 1011 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: Too that i'm. Looking at it looks very different than 1012 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: everybody else on. This list, oh, yeah absolutely he. Definitely does. 1013 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: All RIGHT so i, was saying like some of the 1014 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: things That are i'm getting caught. Up on, YOU know 1015 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: i mentioned a tax of ball fights for the ball 1016 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned has some of these. Crazy catches you know 1017 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: what he does when he, does that he starts flailing 1018 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: so crazy. 1019 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 3: Little, body yeah so, HIS like i think. 1020 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: He needs work on the body control because IN. The 1021 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: nfl you can't just flail around to catch. The ball 1022 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 2: you gotta have your feet come down. In bounds you 1023 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: got to have. Full control sometimes it doesn't look like he. 1024 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 2: Has that he gets away with it in the college 1025 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 2: because it's a one. Foot thing he has a couple 1026 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: of catches where it's one foot in the other one 1027 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 2: not and it's not even. Relatively close that's a weird 1028 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 2: thing to get caught, up on but he's got. To it, 1029 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 2: to me it speaks of body control a. Little, bit 1030 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 2: okay the. Bigger ones WHAT do i love about. WIDE 1031 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 2: receivers i love when they catch. The ball he has, seven. 1032 00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 2: DROPS man i. 1033 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: Think he's got, Small hands THAT'S what i just look. 1034 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: At it he seems like he's again this is where, 1035 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: it's like. 1036 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: And they're not just. Drops man he has a brutal 1037 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 2: Drop Against, south carolina and he's got a couple, of 1038 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 2: those not just, this year but the year before where it's, 1039 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 2: wide open slant back of the, end zone drop right 1040 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 2: right in. Your hands can't do, that right and you're 1041 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: losing seven. FOR three i don't know why he has, 1042 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: These drops like, you said maybe. Small hands HERE'S what 1043 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: i think it. May be it's. Complete guess he also 1044 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 2: has little to no effort. In blocking he's. 1045 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 1: Not a, tough Person doesn't so is this a? Focus 1046 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: thing is this an? Effort thing i'm. Not sure i'm, 1047 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: With you so get him. Any interviews figure out what's going. 1048 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: On There and i'm not saying he doesn't. Have effort 1049 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: i'm not saying that because the talent. Is their i'm, 1050 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: just saying figure out what. That is if that is 1051 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: something that, is coachable let's, Go right i'm on, the 1052 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 1: drops then don't bother me. As much we can get 1053 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: them in, The, blocking like we just got to figure 1054 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: out what's going. On here that's why he's down a 1055 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: little bit, for me because, the talent the athleticism. Is, 1056 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 1: THERE yeah i think again this is more of a 1057 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: ceiling thing. For me AND again i think that the. 1058 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: Film's good but, the blocking the toughness are things that. 1059 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: Are CONCERNING but i do think the ability to play 1060 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: inside outside and. HAVING that i just kept thinking about 1061 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: like Our Guy santana MOSS when i was, Watching Them, 1062 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: santana moss or like. 1063 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,399 Speaker 3: What's? HIS Name? 1064 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: Aj BROWN Not, aj brown the guy that used to Play, 1065 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: In Pittsburgh, antonio brown like that type of body where 1066 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: IT'S like i can run, Anywhere out i'm, INCREDIBLY sudden 1067 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: i can, RETURN punts i can develop this ability to 1068 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: move all over. 1069 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 3: The formation and. 1070 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 1: Again this his body type doesn't really play the same way, 1071 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: because again look at the top guys at, the position 1072 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: they're kind, of these, you know well put together six 1073 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: foot like kind of wrestling type. Body types he's not. 1074 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: That BUILD but i think he's gonna absolutely rip at. 1075 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: THE combat i think he's on a four to THREE 1076 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: and i think he's gonna look great in the three 1077 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 1: cone all that kind. 1078 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 3: Of stuff so, elite explosiveness and that's kind Of what i'm. 1079 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 2: Betting on you Played, WITH tanna i did What was tanna? 1080 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,439 Speaker 2: A dog did he get after it in the? Run game? 1081 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 1: HE did i mean it took him Like when kyle, 1082 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: Got here, like yeah like he went through phases where 1083 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: it was, Different obviously, but again Like what i'm thinking 1084 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: Here with casey consumptioniwon is there is a for me 1085 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: ANYWAY when i could play IN, the nfl there was 1086 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: an uptick in, competitive, Toughness okay AND so i think 1087 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: that's kind Of what i'm banking. On here, and again the, 1088 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: movement skills the, route running like the receiver stuff, is 1089 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: excellent it's just what did they ask him to DO 1090 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: at A? And, M like so when we get in 1091 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: that combine meeting room, with him which we, won't do 1092 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: but we can we can. Always, stream yeah like that's 1093 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: going to be some of The clips i'm going to 1094 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: show him, are like what's going, on here bud and 1095 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: then see what the? 1096 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 3: Answer? Is, Yeah absolutely i'm writing on board with. You, 1097 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 3: there okay where? Are we where are we? 1098 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: AT here i think we have done all of them 1099 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: now we were in our, top three, so, yeah cool 1100 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: let's go you We Did, malachi fields now we have 1101 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: you have you. 1102 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 2: Know at, number three We Have. Jordan. Tyson yep number 1103 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 2: Two Is malchai lemon we talked about and We'll say 1104 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 2: i'll save number, one here. 1105 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: Go, ahead yeah so my three Is uh tate and 1106 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: my number Two. 1107 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,879 Speaker 2: Is, boston okay so that my, number one if you haven't, 1108 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 2: figured out is going To Be. 1109 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: Cardinal tate yours is going To Be. Jordan, Tyson okay 1110 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: so Let's Save. 1111 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 3: Jordan Tyson And cardell tate and let's talk about oh. 1112 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 2: Did we already talk? About? 1113 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 3: Him who who is? 1114 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: Your who is your. Number three tate number Two. Is 1115 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 1: boston let's Talk. About, Boston, Okay uh boston was damn 1116 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: close to be my, number one honestly. 1117 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 2: Six four two Nine. 1118 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 3: From, washington, yeah think and so we talked. 1119 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: ABOUT again i think you it's very apropos that you 1120 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: have him Right Below malachye fields on. Your list so, 1121 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 1: for you It's For malachy fields And Five. Denzel boston 1122 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: and so for ME when i was, watching him it 1123 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: was the. Dude love, first off dude obviously. Loves football 1124 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: like there's plays where he's the backside on a runaway 1125 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: and he's chasing down the, post safety so he's. Well 1126 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: conditioned play, snaps hard he's willing, to block he gets. 1127 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 1: After IT and i think the thing that's different for 1128 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: ME when i compare Him to Malachi To, malachi fields, 1129 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: for example is there is twitch and burst and violence 1130 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 1: when you Watch the all, Twenty two like when you 1131 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: watch his like cutup, of catches it's a lot of 1132 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: stuff down. The field but when you watch him, in 1133 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: game like his suddenness and then his physicality through the, 1134 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: catch point is this SOMETHING that i just couldn't get, 1135 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: Over right people try to grab him like he'd work through. 1136 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: The hands he'd do a great job pushing to, his 1137 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,399 Speaker 1: depth putting his foot in, the ground burst, Out right 1138 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna work a. Deep dig i'm gonna, stem inside. 1139 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: Push vertical they're going to try and. Contact, Me nope 1140 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: i'm gonna. Push THROUGH and i thought he caught the ball. 1141 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: VERY well i thought he's got great. Body control he's 1142 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: a little different athlete Than Like, malchi fields just as 1143 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: a point of comparison for another, Big receiver. 1144 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 3: He's a little bit stiffer or. 1145 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: More stiff and, You Know malchi field is kind of 1146 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: this lithe kind of tiger of a. 1147 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 3: Body type boston's a little bit. 1148 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: More robotic but like, for what LIKE when i, WATCH 1149 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: him i see there is no question in my mind 1150 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 1: that HE'S an. Nfl player like the way, he blocks 1151 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 1: the way, he competes the way he catches, the football 1152 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: the way he runs after, the catch the way he 1153 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 1: runs even the most basic, Of routes like there's this 1154 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 1: is going to sound so stupid that people who you 1155 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: know don't watch a lot, Of football but like he ran, 1156 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: a hitch, for example and he got to the top of, 1157 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: the hitch he snapped it down and he attacked back 1158 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: to the quarterback and so like he has his dad's 1159 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 1: OBVIOUSLY an, nfl player he has obviously been coached at 1160 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: a very. High, LEVEL like i don't know what his 1161 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: ceiling is like in, ten years probably might be Talking 1162 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: about mali fields having a. Higher CEILING but i know 1163 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: Exactly what boston IS and i, love IT and i 1164 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: think he's an. 1165 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: ABSOLUTE stud i agree with you. And everything he was consistent. 1166 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 2: IN college i think he's going to be consistent at the. 1167 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 2: Next level he's GOT that x frame blocks his. Face 1168 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: off THERE'S bad q BE an o line. Play there it. 1169 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,959 Speaker 2: Didn't matter he'll. Still, productive uh, didn't, quit right. Never quit, 1170 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 2: good footwork. Good, hands yeah he's got all. Of that 1171 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 2: here's what was little concerning. 1172 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 3: For, me yeah go, for it talk to me. 1173 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 2: About it production drastically dips against. 1174 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: BETTER teams, i think, to me that's more of a 1175 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: because like when, you watch more of a, quarterback thing 1176 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: because when YOU watch i think it Was The ohio, state, 1177 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: game right They Played. Ohio State, ohio state he Struggled, 1178 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 1: to oregon. He struggled he had seven Catches Against. OHIO 1179 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 1: state i think he had four catches for seventy Yards 1180 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: against Ohio, OR oregon i, remembering correctly do you have? 1181 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: A friend so he was productive in, those games like 1182 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: in terms of, catch, volume targets things like that he 1183 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 1: got open that offense when you. Watch it to me 1184 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: is it can be kind of a silly. Goose SOMETIMES 1185 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: and i think the quarterback, play, THERE. 1186 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah I mean i was saying bad, quarterback play bad o, 1187 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 2: Line play so those could be one. AND another i 1188 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 2: don't know that he's super dynamic with. 1189 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: THE ball, i again like he reminds me a little 1190 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: bit Of Like. Mike evans is that a fair comp, 1191 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: To you like a guy that's like big down the 1192 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: field and but like not going to like run for 1193 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: a million yards after the catch all, the time like. 1194 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: If, It's there like he has a Catch Versus boise. 1195 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: Stay WHERE the dB falls down and he out runs, 1196 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: a safety but like he's not going to like. Juke 1197 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: you he has a punt return versus he has two 1198 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: pup returns for touchdowns this year or one put return 1199 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: this year and one pump return. Last year so THAT 1200 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 1: was i think the other thing that sold me in 1201 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: terms of like athletic ceiling is like you don't put 1202 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: a guy back there unless you think he's got. Some, 1203 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,720 Speaker 1: Juice okay AND so i think the juice, is there 1204 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: and it's even without the pump. Return, thing like he 1205 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 1: is just so. 1206 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 2: Incredibly, CONSISTENT well, I mean i did say he has 1207 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 2: the ability to be a solid piece to an offense. 1208 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 2: RIGHT away i mean especially in the, red zone like 1209 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 2: if you're not asking him to be super dynamic in the, 1210 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 2: open field just be an absolute weapon once you get 1211 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,439 Speaker 2: close to the. END zone i do think right away 1212 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: he's at piece. Right AWAY so I mean i. LOVE 1213 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 2: him i have him. At five like, you Said the, 1214 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 2: MALACHI fields I think i think has a little bit 1215 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 2: high of. A ceiling THAT'S why i moved. Them up 1216 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 2: i'm like taking chances to a. Little bit but as far, 1217 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 2: as like hey this is. Pretty sure bet we know what. 1218 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: We're getting the return may not be as, high potentially 1219 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 2: but you're not gonna lose anything with. This guy you 1220 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 2: know what. You're getting the consistency is one hundred. 1221 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 3: Percent, THERE yeah, I know i THINK you're I think i. 1222 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: SEE that i think the other, thing too is like 1223 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: it's just how fundamentally sound the, dude is like Compared, 1224 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: TO maleck i feel it's just because you just brought him. 1225 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: Up again it's just he's, the stems, the indicators and 1226 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: it's again he's a, Little Stiff and i'm with you, 1227 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: on THAT but i think he's a heck of a. 1228 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: Ball PLAYER and i think your characterization him coming in 1229 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: right away and fill in a role like that's super easy. To. 1230 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 2: Do, yeah absolutely, All Right well i'm gonna do my, 1231 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 2: number one then we'll do your. Number one so my, 1232 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 2: number one your number Three Was carnial Tate From ohio 1233 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 2: state six three. One, ninety, look man he, is smooth 1234 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 2: very everything he does like it's smooth prototype wide receiver 1235 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 2: build and as. Silky, releases man it's just everything looks effortless. 1236 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 2: For him he has plus hands even, when contested sits 1237 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 2: well in Zones Blocks like there's just the ONLY thing 1238 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 2: i would Say With Ohio ohio state guys sometimes IS 1239 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 2: like i. Get nervous maybe, they peaked this is Like, 1240 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 2: it YEAH but i don't KNOW if i find a couple, 1241 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 2: of things there's just not a whole lot to. DISLIKE 1242 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 2: here i mean maybe top end speed blocking, is okay 1243 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 2: but he still. Does IT so i don't know just 1244 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 2: everything about him and then here's another thing That maybe 1245 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 2: i'll get. BURNT on i can't ignore the fact that 1246 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 2: He's an ohio state wide receiver and he's productive In 1247 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 2: the ohio state Offense as ohio state. Wide, receiver there 1248 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 2: whatever the coaching is, that's there it just translates and 1249 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 2: gets them ready for the. Next level AND so i 1250 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 2: have to believe That what i'm seeing here isn't, fools 1251 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 2: Gold because i've seen that gold get bought and. Be 1252 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,439 Speaker 2: real so whether that's fair, OR not i can't get 1253 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 2: that out of the back of. My Head oh high 1254 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,720 Speaker 2: state ride receivers tend to come to the league ready 1255 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 2: to go and be productive at a. HIGH level i 1256 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 2: don't see anything really that is going to say that 1257 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,240 Speaker 2: he won't have that success at the. Next level maybe 1258 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 2: he's not going to be, the greatest but he is 1259 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 2: Going to he is going to. Be effective so that's 1260 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 2: why he's my. NUMBER one i just there's very few 1261 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 2: THINGS that i see that are like. Concerning that it's 1262 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 2: like he might he might be the next. Big one 1263 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 2: he's got that potential in him and his floor, is 1264 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 2: very very. Very high that's JUST how i look. AT 1265 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 2: him i don't know what else to say. Like it 1266 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 2: there's very few THINGS that i don't like. 1267 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: About, him YEAH so i think the, thing OKAY because i. 1268 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: Like him he's number three for, me OBVIOUSLY so i 1269 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: see a lot of what you're talking. About there so 1270 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: this is going to Sound like i'm picking, a KNIT 1271 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: which i. Totally am and this is one of THE 1272 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: reasons I have boston ahead. Of him so there's two 1273 00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: things that have burned me in past. Receiver Evaluations Was Marvin. 1274 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: HARRISON junior, I remember i don't KNOW if i talked 1275 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 1: to you about this when we were, doing IT but i, 1276 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: WAS like i don't know how well he stops and. 1277 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: Starts right it was In That ohio state offense because 1278 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 1: there's so, much space there's so. 1279 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 3: Many playmakers he didn't do it at. The combine he didn't. 1280 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: Do it at the combin AND so I Think carnel 1281 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: tate does that better. Than him but because of the 1282 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: space that's created by, The offense i'm, ALWAYS like i 1283 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: need to see some type. Of SUDDENNESS and i Will 1284 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: say tate is a tends to be a little bit 1285 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: of a. Long strider he's got some good stuff at the, 1286 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: second level like where he bursts and he'll kind of 1287 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: set you up and kind of. Plants you but like 1288 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: if we're running like a slant or a dig or, 1289 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: a hitch it can be a little, bit loose which 1290 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: is again a very. Slight criticism the, other one the 1291 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: other receiver that burned me a little Bit Was, johan 1292 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: DOTSON because i, was, Like Oh, johan, dotson man love the. Ball, 1293 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: skills yeah like love the, ball skills love the. Route 1294 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: running there was an element of like a this is 1295 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: going to, sound crazy but like a lack of Physicality 1296 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: when i'm running. My route and SO when i Watched 1297 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: the miami, games specifically, AND again i think he had 1298 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: a pretty good Game against MIAMI if i, Remember correctly 1299 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: like DID he i, Don't Remember. 1300 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 3: Carnel, tate yeah let me look, At, it yeah look. 1301 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: At it like there's a couple of plays where Like 1302 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: these miami DB's are like in his grill and he 1303 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: cannot separate from. Those GUYS and i Look at Boston 1304 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: against OHIO and i think he had. THREE catches i 1305 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: got it pulled up, Right here i'm gonna catch you 1306 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 1: Have Against ohio state he had three catches for twenty 1307 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: six Yards Against ohio state and they're trying to get 1308 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: all up in, his stuff and he does a great 1309 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: job of powering, through, contact shedding being violent at the, 1310 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: separation point and like staying. On balance and there's probably 1311 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: three to six Clips Of carnel tate In the miami 1312 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: game where he's getting held up he can't get off, 1313 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: the press and that's going to be a big thing 1314 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: that they're going to see at the. Next level SO 1315 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 1: do i think he's A? Stud yes does he track the? Football? 1316 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: Well yes is his contested catches awesome in the red, 1317 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: zone specifically. It's fantastic the THING that i worry about 1318 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 1: is are you strong enough. To consist he's a, YOUNG 1319 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: player i Think to, jason right he's like, twenty one twenty. 1320 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 2: IS younger i don't know his, exact niques, but yeah. 1321 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: So some OF that i think will kill grow into 1322 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: his body a little bit, More RIGHT like i talked 1323 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: About With, Keldrick faalca i'm excited to see him grow. 1324 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: Into himself there's a little bit of that. Here TOO 1325 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: but i Probably because i've been burned on those two 1326 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 1: characteristics in the past by schools in, This conference i'm 1327 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: a little bit leery of. 1328 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 3: It again good. 1329 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: FOOTBALL player i think he catches the. FOOTBALL well i 1330 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: think he's THE comp i heard was LIKE. A t 1331 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: higgins type comp, for him like a guy that's, like 1332 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: long lanky build that can. 1333 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 3: Catch the Football in. 1334 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: KATTICA situation i, Just again i'm a little bit gun 1335 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: shy of the competitive strength and then some of the 1336 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: route running detail on some of these hitches and comebacks 1337 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: which are a little bit. 1338 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 3: MORE technical i. 1339 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 2: HEAR you i don't disagree, with, That right and he 1340 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 2: Had in miami had three receptions for thirty, seven yards 1341 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 2: which you want a little bit. MORE from i get 1342 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 2: that everybody on the offense, here struggled. 1343 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: And it's and again just just just to be just to, 1344 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: be clear like it's these are these are, small, things, 1345 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: right yeah but these are these are Things that. I've 1346 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: ignored these are personal like talk about personal evaluator, By 1347 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Us like i've ignored these things with players in, the 1348 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 1: past and they became big things. Moving forward So if 1349 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: i'm picking a guy in the, top TEN because i 1350 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: think potentially that's where you, could, GO right i want 1351 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: to make SURE that i at Least if i'm in 1352 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: the meeting and NEAR, THE gm i at least bring it, 1353 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: up right because everyone sees all the, Good stuff like 1354 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: you can go online right now and watch every target 1355 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: he Had At ohio state and, you're, like dude this guy's. 1356 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 3: A BALLER but i just want. 1357 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: To make sure that that's Something that i'm thinking about 1358 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: with this prospect as we move through. The. 1359 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: Process, Yeah absolutely, AND look i. Hear you you have 1360 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 2: to bring up the things that you don't like because 1361 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 2: there's no, perfect prospect right and this may Be their 1362 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 2: achilles heel and you just don't know. It yet so 1363 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 2: you've got to be aware. 1364 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 3: Of it and he's much Different than jehan. For, example 1365 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 3: yeah it's Not. 1366 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: Like johan it was like an obvious THING that i 1367 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: was willing to ignore because the other stuff was. So 1368 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 1: good this is a little bit. Less obvious so it's the. 1369 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Same thing you get him with the, right coach you 1370 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: get him in the. RIGHT environment a good Example this 1371 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,439 Speaker 1: jason is tet. Trum McMillan one of, the, things remember 1372 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 1: near the end of the process, LAST year i, WAS 1373 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: like i don't know if he's physically tough enough to 1374 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: win AT the. Nfl level and you know What The carolina. 1375 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Panthers did they put him Against jac horn every day, 1376 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: in practice they didn't even throw them the football and 1377 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 1: he became one of the more competitively tough wide receivers 1378 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 1: running routes and so there are ways to get you out, 1379 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 1: of IT and i think he can. 1380 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 2: Do, It hey and to, THAT point i know You 1381 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 2: Mentioned Marvin harrison junior as a guy that you quote 1382 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 2: unquote got burned one like for. 1383 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 3: Some of the change. Directions. 1384 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 2: Stuff, yeah ABSOLUTELY but i Still Think Marvin harrison junior 1385 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 2: has the potential like it's. Still there, oh yeah he 1386 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 2: could take off like bad, quarterback play. Bad OFFENSE but 1387 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 2: i think the thing with put them in bad positions 1388 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 2: like these things CAN affect i hear what. You're saying 1389 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 2: i'm not saying that that look his start and stop 1390 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 2: that you're talking about some of the explosiveness that doesn't just. 1391 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Come back but if you're put in a, right position 1392 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: are we even, saying, like oh he could Be Like 1393 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior and you KNOW what, I, mean, Like 1394 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah Marvin harrison junior went To the bears and plays 1395 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 2: He o. 1396 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Dunes ROLE so i Guess what i'm, saying is like 1397 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Everyone Thought Marvin Harris harrison junior was this one thing 1398 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: like he was the Next Tu. 1399 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 3: LEO jones i, get you and, so like, but. 1400 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 1: AGAIN like i, WAS like i don't know about this 1401 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 1: start stop and again like that's something that's so it seems, 1402 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: so small but for these receivers at, this level it's a. 1403 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: Huge thing AND so i do think he could be 1404 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: a thousand year. Od receiver he's probably have a great year, 1405 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Next Year Marvin. Harrison junior but the role and the 1406 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: type of player in the league has shifted because of 1407 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 1: some of the start, stop, Stuff. 1408 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 2: Right yeah didn't make. Sense, Here yeah i'm not arguing. 1409 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 2: With you i'm just trying. 1410 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 1: To, No NO so i just want to Make sure i'm 1411 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: CLEAR because i don't want you to THINK like I Think 1412 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Marvin harrison junior is like dooming to be a bad. 1413 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: FOOTBALL player i just think the role shifted because he 1414 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 1: wasn't great. At this and so again that's Where like 1415 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 1: i'm having a hard time with this, player, specifically okay 1416 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 1: separating my bias where IT'S like i saw THIS and 1417 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 1: I didn't i wasn't loud enough with IT when i 1418 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 1: saw it the. 1419 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 3: First time it didn't weigh enough into. 1420 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: My decision and so that's why we're just talking about, 1421 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: it now like, and again like he's number three for 1422 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 1: me in a group in a cluster HERE that i 1423 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: think is pretty gosh sharn. 1424 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 3: Good like so THAT'S why i always want TO be, i. 1425 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 2: Mean here's the best way to caveat all of this 1426 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 2: if he Comes to washington and one way or another 1427 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 2: and you're He's opposite, terry, mcclarin. Right RIGHT so i 1428 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 2: The reason i'm bringing that UP is I just i 1429 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 2: feel like our listeners like this happens too often to 1430 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 2: me AND when i was, a LISTENER and i still have. 1431 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 2: It Happened sometimes i'll listen to somebody and they'll say 1432 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 2: all all the, reasons why like this prospect, isn't Perfect and, 1433 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 2: i'll go they don't. Like them or they'll say all 1434 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 2: the reasons why this prospect is Good and, i'll, say 1435 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 2: oh they, Love them and it's like we're picking the, 1436 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 2: knits right and like you have to if you're going 1437 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 2: to because there's so much invested in. These GUYS so 1438 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 2: i just don't want our listeners to, think that because 1439 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 2: we're you, or me we focus on one thing or 1440 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 2: another That If carnell date Comes, to washington we're not happy. 1441 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 3: ABOUT it i think that's, exactly right you KNOW what. 1442 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 3: I mean so that's that's a. 1443 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Great point, and again like that was one of the 1444 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: things we talked about the top of the show with 1445 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: these receivers, positions specifically IS like i felt like it 1446 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 1: was really hard to separate these guys into, different, Tiers 1447 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: right AND so I mentioned i watched probably eight Games 1448 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: of carnell tait in how MANY games i Watched a 1449 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: casey concept she own, Probably two SO like i really 1450 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: got into THAT because i, was like is this Something 1451 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: that i'm? Constantly, Seeing Right denzel boston. SAME thing i 1452 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 1: watched probably six games, of, him RIGHT because i, WAS 1453 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 1: like i want to make Sure that i'm. Seeing this 1454 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 1: i've spent more time. WITH them i know them, way, 1455 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: better like way. Way better we're going to talk about 1456 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: a guy, with It like i'll preview with The tackles Procter, 1457 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: from alabama THE tackle i have watched literally every Game 1458 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 1: of alabama from twenty twenty five just to get a feel, 1459 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 1: for him because he is the most Perplexing prospect i've. 1460 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 1: Ever watched but the point IS like i know him 1461 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: BETTER than I Know malachi fields or any of these 1462 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: other prospects and, like again because it's where we're trying 1463 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 1: to parse out the difference between these guys that we 1464 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 1: like quite, a bit, you know in terms of role. 1465 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 2: And usage that's a good tease for our, next episode 1466 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 2: which WILL be. O line we will Definitely. Discuss procter 1467 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 2: i'm excited to talk. About him that's just a little. 1468 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 2: Teaserre okay but the Next guy i'm excited to talk 1469 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 2: About Is. Jordan tyson he's your, number one he's my. 1470 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 2: NUMBER three i have him number three for a very. 1471 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 2: Specific REASON but i think we're going to agree on 1472 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 2: a lot about, This guy so talk. 1473 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: To me so let me just say this before we. 1474 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 1: Get started if you look at all the receivers in, 1475 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 1: THIS class i don't think anybody runs better routes. THAN 1476 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: him i think he catches the. Football, Well, again like 1477 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: there's some stuff that you're gonna talk about with, Drop 1478 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 1: right i'm, pretty sure which we talked about before we 1479 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: started in production meeting LIKE that i think. Are RELEVANT 1480 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,919 Speaker 1: but i think he tracks the. FOOTBALL well i don't 1481 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: see like a guy who doesn't track the. FOOTBALL well 1482 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: i don't see a guy who doesn't catch the football 1483 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 1: well with. HIS hands I gotta i gotta find a 1484 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 1: cut up of his drops to be able to comment 1485 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: on what you're about. To say he runs routes the 1486 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 1: WAY modern nfl receivers. Run, routes short, airy quickness excellent, 1487 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 1: release package love the, state speed cuts on point, ninety 1488 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 1: degree cuts on point comebacks. 1489 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 3: ARE excellent, i mean you. 1490 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Watch Him Versus, texas tech which is one of the 1491 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 1: better defenses in, college football and he is by far 1492 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: the best player on. The field you watch HIM, versus 1493 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 1: smu and he looks like an absolute stud in terms 1494 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: of contested catchability, the THING and i kind of ignored it. 1495 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 3: For this i'm gonna. BE honest i ignored it. 1496 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 1: For this, because again if this depending coming out of, 1497 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: the combine this might be a bigger issue and he 1498 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 1: might move way down. The list is the injury history with, 1499 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: This PLAYER like i he's got HE TOURS, acl pcl 1500 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 1: something like in do you have the thing in front? 1501 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 2: Of, either YEAH al MCL and pcl. All torn that 1502 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 2: was in twenty, twenty two color bone fracture in hamstring 1503 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. Twenty four he had a hamstring also 1504 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three that was bothering a. 1505 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 3: Little bit yeap he just can't seem to get and 1506 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 3: pass his. Hamstring thing so. 1507 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 1: A little bit of his how, he's built like he's 1508 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: kind of like a little. Duck footed he's, towed out 1509 01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: like he's going to get a lot of strike like 1510 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 1: pressure on that. Lateral hamstring but, my gosh man like as, 1511 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: a receiver like he does it. 1512 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 3: The BEST now. 1513 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 1: I can't comment on the injury HISTORY because i, Don't 1514 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 1: know like it kind of reminds me Of The chris. 1515 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 1: Bell Thing Like chris bell is an, absolute, stud right 1516 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 1: we just talked. About that but he just but he 1517 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 1: JUST Towards Acl jordan tyson has been like would, you 1518 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: say hurt? Every year, every year every year he's been 1519 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 1: in college with some type of soft tissue or some 1520 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 1: type of catastrophic uh, you know author, knee, injury. Collarbone 1521 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 1: whatever but if you're just looking at, RECEIVING ability i 1522 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 1: don't think there's. Anyone better and, he's tough he's physical 1523 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: like the. Whole thing it's just like can he be 1524 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 1: healthy for a year and are you willing to take? 1525 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 3: That? Risk Yeah, from arizona say it's six to. One 1526 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 3: one he has kind of like a. Lean build there 1527 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 3: is a way to. 1528 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 2: Describe him he's, Not, basketball yeah basketball kind, of, build 1529 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 2: dude twenty two point eight miles, per hour three point 1530 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 2: thirty five bench, like, dude strong, athletic freak nice. Snap 1531 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 2: playmaker he flashes, his hands he doesn't just put him, 1532 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 2: Out there so it's tough for DB's when no one 1533 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 2: when that, ball's coming very smooth and. Our acceleration he 1534 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 2: does have top end speed that he can. Break away 1535 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 2: he blocks in the run game like, he's not, you know, 1536 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,360 Speaker 2: the best but he gets, in, there right he's. 1537 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Not, afraid yeah he's definitely Not Like, Malachi Fields malachy lemon, 1538 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 1: OR Yeah. 1539 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 3: Maliek lemon what's, His. 1540 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 2: Name Yeah, Malik Lemon malachi Lemonry No. 1541 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 3: Kai. Lemon yeah i'm not super sure about his strength all. 1542 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 3: The time but you, KNOW what i. 1543 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 2: Don't, care like he's just so good with his hands 1544 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 2: and he's so good at boxing out and putting his 1545 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 2: body in the. RIGHT spot i just he's he's the 1546 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 2: best PURE receiver. I, THINK yeah i think that's a 1547 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 2: fair way To, all right here's. My concerns he had 1548 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 2: twelve drops over two years in twenty twenty three twenty, 1549 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 2: twenty four he only had one. LAST year i. 1550 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 3: Don't know drops are always concerning. 1551 01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 2: To me maybe. 1552 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 1: IT'S fixed i was gonna ask You, because Okay So. 1553 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 1: Colonel tate ONE thing i Love About. COLONEL tate i 1554 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,719 Speaker 1: think he had like a close to a ten percent 1555 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,840 Speaker 1: drop rate in twenty four and then he got it 1556 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 1: down to like sub two in. 1557 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 2: He does. He DOES but I also i also think 1558 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 2: that his catch radius and some of the catches he 1559 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 2: makes kind of makes up, for that if that. 1560 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 1: Makes Sense what i'm saying is like he could he 1561 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 1: dropped it though he like went from a high que 1562 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: drop rate to a very low. 1563 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 2: Right but his very high contested, catch rate you SEE 1564 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 2: how i think that kind of like. Balances OUT and 1565 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 2: i could do That for tyson, Here too, but well 1566 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 2: it's also the type of Drops. 1567 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: What I'M saying i like that about just to this 1568 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 1: is a. DIFFERENT topic i like That About colonel tate 1569 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 1: that he was like he took an, off season worked 1570 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: on it got, better Then. 1571 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 3: And tyson could. DO that I know i'm kind of. 1572 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 3: Nitpicking it twelve drops that kind. 1573 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 2: Of LIKE but i could toss the drops aside because 1574 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,559 Speaker 2: you only had this one this, Last YEAR and i 1575 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 2: Guess what. I'm saying is The reason i'm putting the 1576 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 2: drops two years ago Aside with, tyson HERE WHICH i 1577 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 2: i could be convinced, to do is because he's gotten better. 1578 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 2: EVERY year i watched some of his twenty, twenty three twenty, 1579 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,680 Speaker 2: twenty four and twenty twenty five he WAS at i 1580 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,360 Speaker 2: can't remember what school he was at, to say but he, 1581 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 2: got better and so he wants to work at. This 1582 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,800 Speaker 2: CRAFT and i think that he is still not done. 1583 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 2: Getting better he's only. 1584 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 1: A red, SHIRT junior, i think, coming out so he's 1585 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 1: not like he's not a, graduate scene you KNOW what. 1586 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean he's, still building he's, still growing and he 1587 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 1: still shows that he wants to work. 1588 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 2: On it here's, the thing here's why he's. Three injuries 1589 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:38,920 Speaker 2: you just need a guy that's going to be on. 1590 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 2: The field best ability. Is availability he can be the 1591 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,760 Speaker 2: best player on the field when he's, out there but 1592 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 2: if he's only out there for. Nine games we Seen 1593 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 2: in washington what happens, when injuries especially on the offensive 1594 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 2: side of, the ball when they bring a playmaker off. 1595 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 2: The field really you have to change everything you're doing 1596 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 2: because if you're drafting, THIS guy i feel like you're 1597 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:01,559 Speaker 2: making him a key part of. 1598 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,640 Speaker 3: The, OFFENSE yeah i mean he, Would be so you. 1599 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 2: Got to be ready for that because he's bringing that. 1600 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,640 Speaker 2: With him he hasn't played a, full season so you 1601 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 2: have to. Know, that, yeah no, That's it and THAT'S 1602 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 2: why i dropped. Them down you're gonna spend. That capital 1603 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 2: let's say he's the number one taking off the number 1604 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 2: one wide receiver taking off, the boarding he's the. Top 1605 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 2: ten you have to know that you may not beginning 1606 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,240 Speaker 2: a full season with him and be okay with that 1607 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 2: draft value at. 1608 01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 1: That spot, and again like they were, Zero DISAGREEMENT like 1609 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 1: i was really reluctant to put him, on THERE but 1610 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: i wanted to put him on there partially for, the 1611 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 1: conversation but ALSO because, i think like that's like when 1612 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 1: you compare him to the rest of, The class like 1613 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 1: that's how good he is at. Playing Receiver is i'm 1614 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 1: almost willing to. Ignore it you can't, ignore It but 1615 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,840 Speaker 1: i'm almost. Willing to and so like that's where it's 1616 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 1: like he's just. He's special injury history is going to, 1617 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,280 Speaker 1: be big and we probably should reduce some of these 1618 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: as we get through. The combine, oh yeah it's gonna 1619 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,160 Speaker 1: move but, uh yeah. Like fun this was a fun 1620 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:00,800 Speaker 1: group to do. REALLY hard I thought i had to 1621 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,320 Speaker 1: watch a lot more FILM than i. Wanted to but. 1622 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 2: Good group we'll shout out some guys as we get 1623 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 2: as we. Move on we have to finish, up here 1624 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 2: but we'll end with the fastest FORTY and i think 1625 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 2: it's going to go WITH what i was just talking 1626 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 2: about here with players and injuries and draft value and. 1627 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,040 Speaker 2: Draft capital SO what i want you to talk about 1628 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 2: is positional value in the draft and how do you. 1629 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 2: Assign that The reason i'm bringing that up is because 1630 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people when they go into, the draft they, say, 1631 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:35,600 Speaker 2: quarterback tackle, edge, rusher. Wide receiver these are your premium 1632 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 2: spots in. The draft you see them go, very high 1633 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,679 Speaker 2: even if let's say you have a safety or a 1634 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 2: linebacker personally ranked higher as the quote unquote, better prospect 1635 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 2: but you're gonna take one of these other positions over 1636 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 2: them because it's not a position. Of value how do you? 1637 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 3: Determine that and then when do you toss? 1638 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 1: That? 1639 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,559 Speaker 3: Out yeah like when? Does it when do you hit? 1640 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 3: The rubicon how's? That, right honestly this should be a, 1641 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 3: whole show. 1642 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 2: And, we will but forty seconds because It's the masters 1643 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 2: forty when you're. 1644 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,639 Speaker 1: Ready READY so i think the thing about determining positional 1645 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 1: value is you want the positions that are hardest, to. Find, 1646 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,799 Speaker 1: right so good quarterbacks don't come up in, Free agency 1647 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: good offensive linemen don't come in. Free agency good addressers 1648 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,360 Speaker 1: don't come up in. Free agency so where do you? 1649 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 1: Get them you get in, the, Draft right so that's 1650 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,000 Speaker 1: why they're so. Valuable here and where you would kind 1651 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 1: of take a position of lesser value is when your 1652 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 1: grade is significantly higher. 1653 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,679 Speaker 3: Than one of those positions. 1654 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: Of value so like, quarterback's tough because quarterback is the, 1655 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: Most valuable but like an offensive linean this is going 1656 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 1: to be interesting comparing offensive line when we do that. 1657 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 3: Next week but kind of a down YEAR for. 1658 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 1: O line so do, you, say oh even though offensive 1659 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,000 Speaker 1: line is, very valuable We go caleb downs or sunny 1660 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 1: styles because we have such a higher grade on. Those 1661 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 1: guys that's part of the conversation in the. 1662 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 3: WAR room i. 1663 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 2: Love it that was a great precise way of talking. 1664 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 2: About it can you get them in? Free agency and if, 1665 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,120 Speaker 2: you can't you gotta get, Them somewhere so this is 1666 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:03,680 Speaker 2: the place to. Do IT so i. 1667 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Love that great that was forty, four seconds but it 1668 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 1: was it was a long. 1669 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 3: One though that, was like that was the toughest topic 1670 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:10,960 Speaker 3: you gave me, SO far. I, think. 1671 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 2: Yeah and also maybe a little. Bit sluggish day after The, 1672 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 2: super bowl we just had a long podcast and we 1673 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 2: went back and forth with each other a little, Bit 1674 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,879 Speaker 2: HERE but i love doing their show. With, you everybody. 1675 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,600 Speaker 2: Stay tuned, next week we'll be doing a, line. 1676 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 3: Yep and that's, offensive line and. 1677 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 2: It's all offensive line because a lot, of well well 1678 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:31,640 Speaker 2: we'll talk about it when we. Get there oh why 1679 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 2: were we? Do that but we'll do our top offensive lineman, 1680 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 2: next week, so yep. 1681 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 3: That's it