1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Law with June Grosso and Michael Best on demand 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: via our Bloomberg Radio Plus app free for iPhone and 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Android devices. John, Now, it's time for our daily Bloomberg 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Law Brief, exploring legal issues in the news. Today, Bloomberg 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Law host to Greg Store discusses a Supreme Court case 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: that will decide whether cheerleading uniforms can be copyrighted under 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: federal law. He speaks to Susan Scoffiti, director of the 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Fashion Law Institute, and Christopher Buca Fusco, a professor at 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Cardozo Law School who filed an amicus brief on the case. Susan, 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: let me start with you, and before we delve into 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: the issues in the case, let's just start with something basic. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: What is the significance of copyright protection to the fashion industry? 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: In other words, how common is it for someone to 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: claim that a garment has copyright protection? Fashion actually has 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: very little copyright protection. But what has been established for 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: almost sixty years now is that surface designs, fabric prints, 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: lace patterns, those kinds of two dimensional designs definitely have 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: protection in fashion. And that is a big deal for 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: fashion designers again, because they have so little protection otherwise, Chris, 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: what's what's the core problem in this case with with 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: the varsity's claim of copyright protection? In your view, as presso, 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: Scopini said, there's an interesting challenge between two relatively well 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: accepted positions in copyright law. On the one hand, the 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: design of a garment is by all accounts agreed to 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: be not protectable because it's too functional, or least the 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: relationship between the function and the aesthetics of the garment 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: are too intricately interwoven. On the other hand, it's generally 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: accepted that, as Compedi Scopini says, the two dimensional designs 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: on say a fabric pattern, roses, flowers, things like that, 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: would be protectable if they're original. Uh So, the question 31 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: here then is what are these stripes and chevrons? And 32 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: our argument in the case is that even though they're 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: two dimensional, they still do important three dimensional work. They 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: still function three dimensionally because they influence the way the 35 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: wearer is perceived. Susan, I gather you don't agree with 36 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: that argument, Tell me where you think Chris went wrong. 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, of course, everything that one wears influences the 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: way the wearer is perceived. Fashion is at base a 39 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: form of communication. It is creative communication at one level 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: from the designer, and then when it's worn, there is 41 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: a second level of communication that occurs um and so 42 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: the fact that the garment influences the way one is 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: perceived is almost a given, whether it's communicating that you 44 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: are married, or part of a particular profession, or a 45 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: fan of a particular sports team, or in this case 46 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: in some cases, a cheerleader. That is Susan Scaffiti, director 47 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: of the Fashion Law Institute, and Christopher book of Fusco, 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: professor at the card Dozo Lass School, speaking to Bloomberg 49 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Law host Craig Store. You can listen to Bloomberg Law 50 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: weekdays at one pm Wall Street time here on Bloomberg Radio, 51 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: and that is this morning's Bloomberg Law Brief. You can 52 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: find more at legal news at Bloomberg Law dot com 53 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: and Bloomberg Bna dot com. Attorneys will find exceptional legal 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: research and business development tools there as well. 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