WEBVTT - Choose Your Publicists Wisely | Happy Hour 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:04.920 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to back so happy Hour. I'm 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:10.320 Charity and I'm Rachel, and we are back with a lovely, 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:12.360 lovely episode this one. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:14.800 Put your headphones on and buckle up. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:21.480 I am a little nervous because there is so much 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.799 to say, and I'm wondering how much we can say legally. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.520 Well, at this point we'll find out, right why why not? 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:33.599 You know, let's try, let's try and see. I think 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.800 we should start with, you know, our family Bachelor Nation. 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.120 There's a lot going on, but there's also a lot 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:42.440 happening in pop. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.400 Culture, but we'll get to that in a second. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:50.240 Let's start with some very very specific bacheloration news which 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:51.200 I'm not gonna lie. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:55.160 This one broke me, like this one truly broke me. 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.520 For our listeners if you don't or have not seen news, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.960 Joe Amabili, who was the former host of this podcast, 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.720 revealed that he has an early stage brain tremer which 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.280 is going to require him to undergo brain surgery in 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:12.920 a couple of weeks. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:18.360 Which I it's so crazy how I found out about this. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:22.240 Rachel, I was literally texting Serena because I saw that 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.760 they both did their pernuvo scans and I was like, Oh, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.000 can you give me the contact for who you like 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.559 reached out to? And as I texted her that text, 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:35.160 I opened Instagram and I saw Joe's posts and I 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.520 was like, you're you're kidding, Like I don't know, Like 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.120 I just couldn't believe it. And it's one of those 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.800 things where I feel, like I hate to say it, 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.200 but like we live in a society where. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.760 Healthcare is just always so tricky. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.400 But it's also one of those things where you don't 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.560 feel like it could happen until it happens to you 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.960 type situation. And I was like, this is so like 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.320 it was just so sad, so sad, so odd. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.680 Like least expecting it from him. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.400 I mean, Joe is a very healthy guy, and I 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.160 know that you know, it could happen in any capacity 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.079 or any form, but I just was not expecting it, 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:14.040 like at all. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.760 No, Like you said, this is something like similarly to 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.240 when we had the news about Katie Thurston's diagnosis. When 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.680 it happens in our bachelor family, but when it happens 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:30.560 to people so young, thank God that they were able 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.440 to get this MRI, this full body MRI too, because, 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.080 like you said, healthcare is so tricky and this is 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.080 something that a lot of people don't have access to. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.080 But thank god that they were able to catch it. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.520 And I believe he's getting a craniotomy, so hopefully that 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.520 surgery goes very smoothly, and we hope for nothing but 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.240 amazing outcomes and a healthy depery for Joe. And we're 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:58.720 thinking about Serena as well, because it is said crazy. 0:02:58.960 --> 0:02:59.919 It's a lot to care. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.640 So I'm like, I am, I am glad that they 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.320 caught it early. That's like the saving grace and all this, 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.600 and obviously we're keeping him in our thoughts and prayers. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.720 But yeah, I mean it is it's just fascinating. 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.320 And when you really think about, like the fact that 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.320 he caught this from a brand deal, which is crazy. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.960 I just wish this was like accessible to everybody because 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.440 even then, I'm like, it is expensive, Like it's very 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.359 expensive me and are actually going to go get one 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.400 just for the sake of it? We were like, okay, 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.880 like why not, But like when you tally the costs, 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:39.120 like your annual physical doesn't cover like MRIs to this 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.720 degree where you're getting all these scans, that's like showing 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.480 so much and when you really think about it. That also, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.160 over time, health insurance doesn't cover all of that, so 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.680 you're probably going to pay probably more if you were 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.200 to go through like health insurance or your typical annual 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.840 physical route versus like going in and getting this scanned. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.560 Are these scans done? So? 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.880 That to me is like my encouragement to just anyone 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.320 who is listening. I understand, like, again, very expensive, but 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.040 if it's going to hopefully detect something very early or 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.240 give you just peace of mind about your health, I 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:16.720 definitely think that it's worth it. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:17.839 That's why me and. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.680 Dotton are going to go do it and get it done. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:24.640 But yeah, I mean we are thinking of you, Joe, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.400 we love you, and hopefully all this will be over 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:29.400 before you know it. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.440 Yeah, it's so hard to like. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:36.039 Musician from that. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.320 It is so crazy because you just genuinely never think 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.560 that things like this could happen to you. I know, 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.240 I am always like I feel so invincible, but moments 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.120 like these, like I know that Joe has like such 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.120 an incredible like support system around him and Serena, so yes, 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:56.960 like nothing but our thoughts with Joe moving on, I 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.839 don't know how do we move on from this moving, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.320 I know, like genuinely. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.920 Am I on the I don't know? 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:10.839 Yeah, no, truly, we do have other exciting news. This 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.440 is a little bit more on the happier side. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.720 Joey is making a debut. Come on now. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:22.080 I was like, wait a minute, I knew, but like 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.120 I didn't know, like to what capacity. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:25.880 I just knew he was filming something. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:26.880 I know. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.039 I knew like a wild back. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.400 Like I want to say, maybe a few months back 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.400 someone mentioned and I was like, oh, that's exciting, but 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.720 they didn't tell me to again what degree? But a 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.960 new holiday rom com. I'm like, who's more perfect for that? 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.000 I think it's Joey right. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:48.240 Oh, literally so perfect. I think Justin Glaize is going 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:48.560 to be in. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.640 A hole also doing yeah with wait. 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:55.960 Well, I love the bach Nation to Homework pipeline. I 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.440 do have to say Kelsey Anderson is stronger than the 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.400 US true. Having to watch Joey kiss another woman, I 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.880 know she's gonna be so funny about it. I'm looking 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.800 forward to her reactions already. But this will be good 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.360 to watch. I'm really excited. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.960 No, it's gonna be really good. I'm very curious to 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.159 see his acting. Obviously, I think we got like a 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.880 sneak peek when he was It was he did a 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.159 cameo for the nine to one one episode, like during 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.799 his season of the Bachelor, and I was like, okay, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.000 that was like thirty seconds, but it was like decent. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.200 So I'm curious to see how he does. Yeah. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.480 In our next Rachel Nation headline, Jason Tartick pops the 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.760 question to girlfriend Catherine Hurley, saying they are right where 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:41.400 they belong. 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:48.040 Congratulations to Jason, congratulations are in order. Truly, I am 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:55.279 very excited for him. I am. I do not think, No, 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:56.040 that's crazy. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.440 How long have they've been Well, I'm just how long 0:06:58.440 --> 0:06:59.320 have they been together? 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.760 Has it been a year? It's definitely not. I don't 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.039 think it has been a year. I think it. 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.200 That's why I said, I am shocked that it happened 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.080 this quick. Like I'm happy. I knew like the relationship was, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.600 you know, going on the right track. I just did 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.960 not expect it to happen this fast. But hey, when 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.200 you know, you know, and it seem like there was 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.680 some rumblings in the news that this potentially could happen. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:32.400 But yeah, I mean it's very interesting because I know, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.640 like Jason gets a lot of heat for dating very 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:47.160 specific influencers. Hello brown hair, and he loves a capital case. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:50.640 I find that very interesting. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:56.080 But again, I'm not here to rain on anyone's parade. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.160 I'm excited. I'm excited for them. It's going to be obviously, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.600 I feel like another anticipated. Would you consider this a 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.119 Bachelor Nation wedding? 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:08.160 I guess because Jason maybe not. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.840 But hey, all I know is that there'll definitely be 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.440 a lot of content around the wedding and I cannot 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.800 wait to watch. Yeah, yeah, no, congratulations. I am like 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:24.240 anytime anyone gets engaged, I love it, very excited for 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:29.600 their future. Speaking of Bachelor Nation weddings, Kelsey Weird ties 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:35.400 the knot with her basketball fiance period, adding another wag 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:40.600 to the Bachelor Nation alumni list. Present was Kelly Flanagan, 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:45.680 Victoria Fuller and more Amazing. Anytime someone gets married, I'm like, 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.040 there's hope for me. I love it. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:55.839 There is hope. There is hope. No, do you think 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:57.800 she had champagne or her wedding? 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.240 That is such a good question, and she better have 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:02.240 had champagne. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.960 Imagine that she was so like traumatized from that that 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.440 she was like no Champagne. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:12.240 No Champagne. Chase Rice performed at the reception. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:19.000 Lab band is Chase Rice. No I she looked gorgeous. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.000 I think the first photo that I saw of her 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.800 wedding was through Victoria. So I do want to pose 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.680 a question, what are your thoughts on people posting photos 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:28.800 before the bride and groom. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.440 I say, no, I no life posting for the wedding 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:40.800 unless there's, like you know, there's verbal confirmation that you 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:41.320 can do so. 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.000 But y'all will not be posting before I had the 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:44.839 opportunity to. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.120 I don't know. I think that's very interesting. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.120 I'm just like I don't want especially I'm like, you know, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.880 it's I want the professional photos to be out there. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.240 It needs to be done in orderly fashion. So when 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:01.199 like a friend or a guest post before the bride 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.679 and graham, I'm always like a little side eye, but. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.079 Gorgeous at well. 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.480 I will is it going to be no phones during 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.720 ceremony or no phones tail work dancing like in the reception. 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.560 No phones during the ceremony unplugged, And I also like, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.840 I yeah, optic wise, like you will not be leaning 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.679 out from your I'll taken photos. 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.600 It's crazy, So none of that. 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.720 You will be able to have, like obviously your phone 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.440 and document in your personal memory away. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:38.080 Hello, no post. After you see my post, then you 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:38.760 are free to go. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.240 You can post yourself, post your fit in a Mira selfie, 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.400 do that, but I won't be in the picture. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:46.280 I love that. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:47.160 I agree. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.720 I cannot wait to see more pictures though, because she 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:52.680 was just such a stunning bride. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.960 She was Okay, should we shift into the pop culture 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.640 because there's some heavy, heavy topics charity. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.640 All I could think about was talking about this topic 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.839 and how I know we're going to talk about it 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.760 without getting a ccidicist. 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.480 You know what, I think we just go, you know, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.000 I think we just give like real life experiences. One 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.000 thing that you can't silence me on is a real 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:16.880 life experience. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.560 I experienced. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.679 I lived it, you know, and whether you agree with 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.360 it or not, that's okay. Everyone has theirs two Saturday 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.400 every story. So here we go, let's get into it. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.440 It did take me by surprise, like I was surprised 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.880 to genuinely see the headline, because I was like, this 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.920 isn't just like rumblings, This isn't just like he said, 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.600 she said, this is on the front face of TMZ, 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.120 and not only is it on their front face, it's 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:45.920 a very intimate photo. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.160 Like it's very intimate. I'm so sorry. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.480 So what we're talking about For those who are not 0:11:54.960 --> 0:12:00.720 as online as I am, TMZ released pictures of Jax 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:05.520 Taylor and his publicist Lori Krabs, who is also Writtey 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:11.040 Cartwright's publicist now former, and Charity and I's former publicists. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:15.600 So Charity and I we have a lot to say 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.240 about this. I guess let's start with the pictures. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:20.800 Yeah, let's start there. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:28.120 What I think is interesting is that Laurie is a publicist. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.280 Lurie sees and knows what is going to hit a 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:37.400 headline before it's out. She knows people at these publications. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.840 She knows TMZ, she knows page six, she knows people. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:45.480 Interesting that these pictures came out and that they were 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:50.480 as I don't know, post well done as they were. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.760 Some of them were pretty interesting. It seemed as if 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:57.120 the camera was up against the glass and they knew 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.040 it was being taken from That's. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:05.480 What correct I'm trying to understand who took the photo, 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:07.559 who sent the photo. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.280 I want to know all of the details because. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.360 I am just not understanding, especially in like I think 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:17.840 this resort is known. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.160 So what I know of this hotel is that when 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.120 people with a following go to this hotel, there is 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:30.599 a large chance they will be photographed. Lori, who is 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.560 a publicist, and Jackson, who is an influencer a reality 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.880 TV star, they knew this. They had to have known 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.760 this going into this resort. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.160 Which makes it all the more interesting. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:46.320 So the photo that hits TMZ is Lori and Jack's 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:50.199 and they're in the pool I'm assuming waiting. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.760 It's like the what is it called the waterfall pool. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:59.360 Like the Infinity pool, Infinity pool, Jesus, okay, And it 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:04.080 seems as if they're embracing I can't physically see like hands, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:08.319 but like it's giving Laurie's probably holding him. His arm 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.839 doesn't look quite around her. Nonetheless, there's not enough space 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:17.200 for Jesus. So it's just interesting because I'm like, as 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.440 we all have understood their relationship to be was just 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:26.440 from a client publicist standpoint, and now this is, without 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.480 a doubt signaling something worn. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.920 And I think we would be remiss to not speak 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:39.280 about the fact that this is the second time this 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.440 has been a public rumor. I guess now, could you 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.560 call it a rumor? There's physical evidence, but there was 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.880 headlines that came out about what was it three years ago? 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:55.080 Uh, yeah, maybe like two years two years ago, Yeah, 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:55.680 something like that. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.720 I think it was right when Jackson Brittany had separated, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:05.000 and it was that they were hooking up in a 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:15.640 public bathroom. When this came out, I was still under 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.520 the Lori K management and I believe Charity you weren't 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:24.680 as well. And when I saw this news, I knew 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.960 immediately that as someone who I would call Brittany a friend, 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.040 I can't be managed by someone who would do this. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.320 On top of the fact that your job is to 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.520 manage me, to make sure that I am presenting okay 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.120 to the public, and you are putting yourself even in 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.920 a situation where that could be assumed. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.160 It's just not professional. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:52.520 I'm sorry, It's just professional and it is the highest 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:57.520 level of betrayal to Brittany because Lori and Brittany are 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.640 friends and they work very close with each other every 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:07.520 single day. M Laurie watched Brittany go through this separation. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:13.920 She watched her struggle to I guess, be a single mom, 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.520 to cruise. She knows what Brittany went through, and this 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.920 is the second time that she's even allowed this to 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.760 be a public topic of conversation, regardless of it's true 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.960 or not. How could you do this to Brittany is 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.480 the main question now, and. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:37.360 There's not going to be an answer that will justify that. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.760 I'm just curious and like I also have to think 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.000 of like the alternative. 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.360 Or the possible alternative of like. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.600 Is there a world like there there cannot be a 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.200 world where Britney's like in on this, you know, like 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.320 where she's aware that there's no way, like there's no way, 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.280 like this is all a Jackson Lorie thing. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.240 Or all completely Loriy thing on her own, Like there's no. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.760 Way that She's like, I'm gonna put this story out 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.360 ahead of time just to like get like is there 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.280 do you get what I'm saying, Like is the theory 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.840 that like, oh maybe this is like to get you know, 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.280 a storyline for the upcoming season or let's get Jacks 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.680 back on this show, Like where do we think? Because 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.120 I'm like, to me, that's what I'm saying. It doesn't 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:18.120 make sense, Like. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.040 I tell me, my man, like. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.359 That there is a world in which this is a 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.520 publicity stunt because she just ruined her career. In my 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:35.240 opinion of that, you will never have a client's trust again. Yeah, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:40.639 Brittany was her closest, biggest client, and that betrayal is 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:46.120 beyond I don't care if they're both single. Yeah, if 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.600 this was a way to get Jack's back on the valley, 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:52.159 at what cost other than she also wants to be 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.680 on the valley because she no longer in my opinion, 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.080 can represent clients after this came out exactly. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.040 But then I'm like it also, like, why do you 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.840 want to enter your potential if that is the case 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.359 where she's going on the like you're coming in as 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.240 a villain. You're coming in like very disliked. Your name 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.200 is now holds the same way as Jackson. 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:16.840 That ain't good. 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.480 You don't think that's what it is to you? 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.679 Like they can't like it actually can't be. 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.320 But I'm like, I am thinking of the possibility because 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.320 I'm like, it's so hard for me to believe that 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.480 this is like just oh, I'm just doing this because 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.719 like you know, like she whether or not she's in 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:39.040 love with him or whatever relationship has blossomed, I still 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.400 can't believe that she would do such a thing to Brittany. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.760 But I'm like, that's the only way that I'm like 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.480 it makes sense of like, oh, Okay, you're doing this 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.840 because you want to possibly get on the show or 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.000 get Jack's back on the show. 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:57.080 But I'm like, at what costs? Like at what cost? 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.000 And I wanted to ask you to what you think? 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:10.760 So we heard allegedly that Brittany dropped Glory after this 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:15.359 was dropped to the public. Do we think that this 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.600 was done by Laurie? Do you think she did this 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:22.800 to lay claim to Jackson be like we're in a relationship, 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.360 or do you think it really was an accident. 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.280 I don't know, Like I really don't know, because I'm like. 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.920 There's a part of me that's like yes, But then 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.119 there's a part of me that's like, why would she 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:38.880 like why would. 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.479 She sacrifice her entire career for that? Like why? 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.600 That part is a big giant question mark and a 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:45.439 mystery to me. 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.960 So there's a world where literally. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.040 It could like it could be, but I think that's 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.760 you know, like I really want to like hear from Brittany, 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:58.320 and that's why we need to have her on this 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:04.879 podcast like immediately to just get her like side and 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:09.159 take of things. But I don't know, it just it. 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.159 I can't wrap my head around it because I'm like 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:15.040 I could never and I would never, but I forget, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.480 like everyone's not me, and everyone doesn't think the way 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.400 that I think, and everyone doesn't handle problems the way 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.600 that I would handle them. So I just think things 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.719 definitely just got maybe too blurred, like the lines definitely 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.560 got too blurred. And again with what we like allegedly 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.399 know about that specific resort, it's hard for me to 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.280 think that like she wouldn't go in thinking to be 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.960 more careful. It's like you're at an infinity pool unless 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.359 there's an umbrella in a covering, somebody gonna see it, nolla. 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:45.320 So I don't know, like be safe or don't do 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.960 it at all, Like I don't know. Yeah, it's a 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:49.520 very careless mistake. 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.280 No, genuinely, And I just don't see someone who is 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:56.040 aware of things like that, whose job is to be 0:20:56.080 --> 0:21:00.000 aware of paparazzi and publicity, to make those kind of 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:01.199 mistakes twice. 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:05.520 Yeah, yeah, it's that's that's the part that I'm like, Okay, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.359 that's why I feel like I'm leaning more towards maybe 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:13.080 she just did know and just was like whatever, because 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:17.960 I'm like, this isn't the first time that we heard 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:22.280 potentially of something. Obviously, nothing has been specifically verified by 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.160 either party, so I don't know at all. 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:30.879 There has been a lot of Bachelor talent that has 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:35.520 been prepped by LORII. What was your experience like. 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:38.399 Your Lori era? 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:44.399 Yeah, I mean my Lori era was very brief, but 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.240 like it was long enough, I should say, and I 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.439 want to say it was brief just because I worked 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:54.359 with her immediately coming off of Bachelorette, I was with 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.719 her during my time on Dancing with the Stars, and 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:02.520 then shortly thereafter once I moved to New York, and 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:05.960 so that obviously it was long, but everything in my 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:10.919 brain like kind of like happened very quickly, and you know, 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:15.119 starting off, lur was like very great, like it was 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:21.320 a great overall experience. But then shortly after Dancing with 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:25.119 the Stars or even while I was there during Dancing 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:29.240 in the Stars, I started to like just since just 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:34.320 how like the network of public relations goes and working 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:37.679 with like other bachelor people, and like, again, this is 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.560 my specific experience, but I do think that. 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:43.919 There's this thing where. 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.480 It's very easy when you get into this space in 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:53.800 this industry to like compare yourself amongst other whether it's 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:57.040 within Bachelor Nation or other reality TV stars or other influencers, 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.120 Like it's very easy to like kind of get into 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.520 that train of thought or thinking. And that definitely happened 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.760 for me because I was like, oh, well, I'm doing 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.320 this and I'm coming off like I'm you know, at 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.679 the peak of you know, Bachelorette post Dancing with the Stars, 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.280