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Speaker 1: You guys can probably notice that Joel Rico here behind

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Speaker 1: the mic, joined by my dear friend Casey Bubba. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be taking you through about two thirds

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Speaker 1: of the remaining shows of the baseball season. We're still

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Speaker 1: gonna have wells, shehy on on Mondays. Bubba and I

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Speaker 1: Mondays and also joining Welsh. But this is great. This

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Speaker 1: is really fun for me. Get to join Bubba, who

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Speaker 1: has been a good friend for the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: and we get to kind of talk some baseball. Here, Bubba,

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Speaker 1: how you doing today? Man?

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Speaker 2: I am doing great getting to talk some baseball. It

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Speaker 2: seems like it's been a while since with you and

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Speaker 2: I have got the chat, even though we're in the

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Speaker 2: same like message groups and everything. But it's a different

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Speaker 2: platform for us too, which is crazy. It's using my show,

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Speaker 2: your show something else. So it's gonna be fun, and

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the final month of the year.

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Speaker 2: Is you know a lot of people are wrapping up seasons,

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Speaker 2: like we said before the show, but you and I

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Speaker 2: we just keep on going. This is what we like

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Speaker 1: If you guys are here at this time of the season,

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Speaker 1: you are the diehards. Absolutely. If you're still watching baseball content,

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Speaker 1: listening to podcasts, reading articles this time of year, then

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Speaker 1: you automatically have a bit of an edge on the

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Speaker 1: rest of your league because as we know, football's coming,

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Speaker 1: people going back to school, everybody's got busy live. So

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Speaker 1: if you're still paying attention this time of year, it

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Speaker 1: the competition. We're gonna be breaking down the headlines today

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Speaker 1: doing the usual stuff. Just because Joe and Welsh aren't here.

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Speaker 1: are gonna go through some headlines. We're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: couple of your questions if you guys want to throw

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Speaker 1: some things in the chat. We're also gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: a couple of fantasy playoff questions if you got anything.

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Speaker 1: Later on we'll talk injuries, best bets, home runs and

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Speaker 1: all that. But let's get started off off with Katee Povich,

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Speaker 1: who was just brutal for a good chunk of the

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Speaker 1: I just didn't really trust him this time of year.

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Speaker 1: But seven and a third shutout innings with ten strikeouts.

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Speaker 1: is this just it was the White Sox.

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Speaker 2: he was a highly touttered prospect, so it is great

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Speaker 1: But being in the two forties and stealing a couple

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Speaker 1: Is he somebody where he'll be faded again next year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he should be. I know it's it's

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Speaker 2: not everybody's cup of tea drafting Kyle Schubert because there's

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Speaker 2: That's elite stuff, Like you mentioned top fifty player in fantasy.

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Speaker 1: the best hitting prospects we've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 2: That's a welshy thing if we're going to go there.

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Speaker 2: But I know a lot of people are still very

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Speaker 2: he still went relatively decent. He didn't go like Jackson Churio,

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Speaker 1: for seventeen homers and twelve steels next season and it's

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Speaker 2: he just won't fit my mold when I'm picking my team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm probably on the same page with

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Speaker 1: there's just so much to really like, but I think

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Speaker 1: about David Peterson, though man six innings of one run

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Speaker 1: think the big thing with David Peterson is the strikeouts.

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Speaker 1: Arizona's offense has been one of the best, the best

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Speaker 1: Redebtmers finally finally made his return to the majors. And

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Speaker 2: I told everybody for the Dodgers starts to add him,

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Speaker 2: Skeens at plus money and you just watch the show.

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Speaker 2: Just watch the show now, and you make some money

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Speaker 2: either way. So that's how you play a book. It

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Speaker 2: where he still probably wins it, but it should be

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Speaker 2: Jackson Merril's to win. That's who I would pick.

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably right. I don't know which way

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Speaker 1: the voters are gonna go on this one though, This

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Speaker 1: rookie pitcher who's doing things that rookie pitcher shouldn't really

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Speaker 1: be able to do, especially for a bad team. But

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Speaker 1: Jackson Merrill going twenty twenty, hitting almost three hundred, he

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Speaker 1: might finish with five war for the season. That being said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if even older voters know what war is,

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Speaker 1: So again, it's kind of a tricky one to actually

439
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Speaker 1: guess what's gonna happen. But I agree like Paul Skean's

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Speaker 1: at plus six hundred, a couple of bucks on that,

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Speaker 1: especially if you already took him before, or if you

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Speaker 1: take Meryl before a plus money, you're guaranteed to look

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty good at the end of the season. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a couple questions. Pistol here, who's always in the chat,

445
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Speaker 1: always shouting us out here, good guy, wants to know

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Speaker 1: what our thoughts are on David Bednar looks like he's

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Speaker 1: going to be removed from high leverage role for a

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Speaker 1: little while. Are you dropping Bednar Baba with some little

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Speaker 1: time left in the season. Are you still holding on here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned it last night with Ryan on our

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Speaker 2: show that I will be dropping Bednar if I had him,

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Speaker 2: just because it's been really bad to begin with. He's

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Speaker 2: shown some really rough skills of late, and I feel

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Speaker 2: like they're taking him out. It's going to be for

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Speaker 2: at least two weeks. So now you have a week

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Speaker 2: week and a half when he comes back. What's he

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Speaker 2: going to get you? Two saves maybe three at best

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Speaker 2: with the Pirates, So I would use that roster spot

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Speaker 2: and maximize other options on my team. So yeah, Bednar,

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Speaker 2: he would be a drop for me going forward. He's

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Speaker 2: just kind of a it sucks. It sucks to see,

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Speaker 2: but he's lost it for now.

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Speaker 1: An absolutely terrible season, But I feel like I'll be

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Speaker 1: buying the dip. I feel like I will be buying

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Speaker 1: that coming in the next season. He's going to go

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Speaker 1: outside the top one hundred and fifty picks probably. People

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Speaker 1: are going to see that era, which is disgusting, and

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Speaker 1: everything's been pretty bad. Even the supporting metrics aren't great,

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Speaker 1: but they're they're a bit better. But I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a pretty easy buy for me next season,

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Speaker 1: considering how depressed that price is probably going to be

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Speaker 1: any cheap saves out there, kind of a combination question.

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Speaker 1: The big one for me, like looking at Yahoo rostership,

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Speaker 1: is probably Jeff Hoffman. He's still forty three percent rostered.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like a guarantee. But there's not

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Speaker 1: really so many guarantees that I'm seeing right now in

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Speaker 1: a lot of leagues. But is there anybody that really

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Speaker 1: comes to mind for you in terms of cheap saves

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Speaker 1: or somebody that's available in a lot of cases.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing guarantee to like the Hoffman call. I know,

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Speaker 2: when I looked at Michael Kopeck at the end of

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Speaker 2: last week, he was around the fifty percent bubble and

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Speaker 2: he's kind of split in the role with Evan Phillips,

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Speaker 2: so he's getting good ratios and strikeouts, So I'm not

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Speaker 2: a posed to Copeck in that one. And then he's

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Speaker 2: just gonna play the roulette and Tampa Bay or the

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Speaker 2: Cubs if you want. But that's a messy, messy situation.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I like hop and call Kopek stick along

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Speaker 2: those lines and see where it goes.

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Speaker 1: Nothing great out there, you're really just hoping for the best,

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Speaker 1: hoping for some fortunate bounces this time of year. The

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Speaker 1: last question we got. We're firing up about In Francis

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Speaker 1: against the Phillies today may also take the Blue Jays

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Speaker 1: money line, So I have one of my bets is

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Speaker 1: about bout In Francis later on today. Not to spoil it,

496
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Speaker 1: but I feel like he's been running a little bit

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Speaker 1: too pure coming up against a pretty good offense here,

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Speaker 1: So I would say generally it's hard to bench him

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Speaker 1: after like Pictuer of the Month in August, one of

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Speaker 1: the best stretches we've ever seen from a starting pitcher.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think I really trust him here unless

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Speaker 1: you really need the volume. I think he's probably a sit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, Like I I would run him out there,

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Speaker 2: and you hope because he's made the pitch mix changes,

505
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Speaker 2: all the good stuff everyone likes to talk about, but

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Speaker 2: you're just you gotta wait for the banana peel, is

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Speaker 2: the way I look at it, Like it's gonna come

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Speaker 2: here in one of these final starts, you think, because

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Speaker 2: the one oh six era is great over his last

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Speaker 2: five starts, but in the two six six years good,

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Speaker 2: So like he's pitched well, but you know, a thirty

512
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Speaker 2: percent kate of walk. How sustainable is that. Let's be real,

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a setback, and he's facing the juggernaut

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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. There's no hiding that I'd still run him

515
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Speaker 2: out there, just the same way I promoted a start.

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Speaker 2: Spencer Arighedtty against him last week, and he went into

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia and got the job done. You could get bad,

518
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Speaker 2: There's no doubt in that, but I'll take my chances

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Speaker 2: about in Francis.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, I think in most cases it's really

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Speaker 1: gonna be hard to put him on the bench after

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Speaker 1: after what we've seen. I mean, just a ridiculous run.

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Speaker 1: I mean even just that for that Boston start last week,

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Speaker 1: I said the same thing, like that makes me a

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Speaker 1: little bit nervous, I don't know, and then seven shutout

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Speaker 1: innings later, here we are about in Francis. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they officially named the pitchers of the month

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Speaker 1: for August, but I feel like he's he's got to

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Speaker 1: be the pitcher of the month in the American League

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Speaker 1: for August.

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Speaker 2: What should he should be? He should be Let's still

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Speaker 2: fight between him and are Getty.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, yeah, it definitely definitely could be. Let's move

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Speaker 1: into the three up and three down, three up. Chris

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Speaker 1: Sale seven shutout innings with nine strikeouts against the Rockies,

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Speaker 1: putting the finishing touches on what is probably a cy

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Speaker 1: Young season. Bubba, you think it's gonna be Chris Sales

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Speaker 1: first cy Young this year?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it should be. He's been great as long

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Speaker 2: as that arms, so something that doesn't fall off the

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Speaker 2: last three weeks of the year. It's his to lose,

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Speaker 2: and nothing against anybody else. There's been some great pitchers,

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Speaker 2: but it is definitely Chris Sales and real quick Dollon

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Speaker 2: Francis was pitcher of the month. Just looked it up.

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Speaker 1: He was Pitcher of the month. Okay, I knew it

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Speaker 1: was gonna happen. I just wasn't sure if they'd officially

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Speaker 1: named it. Yeah, Chris Sale, I mean he probably should

548
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Speaker 1: have won a cy Young back in his White Sox days.

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Speaker 1: It was just so crowded in the American League in

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Speaker 1: the twenty tens. Verlander and Schuzer probably won like five

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Speaker 1: of the cy Youngs there, and then you had some

552
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Speaker 1: random like Rick Porcello stuff, and Kluber won a couple.

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Speaker 1: It was very crowded, so no room for him over there.

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Speaker 1: Although He probably should have won one still, but it

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Speaker 1: looks like they're going to make up for that this season.

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Speaker 1: Paul Goldsmith three for five with a combo meal yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and Vladimir Gera junior four for five with a home

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Speaker 1: run himself. He has been just unbelievable in the second half.

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Speaker 1: On the three down. Tyler Phillips just got destroyed by

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays two thirds of an inning, got shell

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Speaker 1: for eight hits and six earned runs. Clay Holmes. We

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Speaker 1: mentioned the Wyatt Langford walk off Grant slam earlier. That

563
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Speaker 1: was off of Clay Holmes. Another blown save. Yankee fans

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Speaker 1: are coming with the pitchforks. They are not happy about

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Speaker 1: this one. And then Peter Armstrong, who's been very good recently,

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Speaker 1: went over four with a golden sombrero yesterday. Bubba, I

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Speaker 1: got a question for you in the chat here. What

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Speaker 1: hat are you repping today?

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Speaker 2: This is the hove Alinas from the Arizona Fall League.

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Speaker 2: Got it last year. I'm sorry, first pitch Arizona, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's one of the fun looks. They answer, cool ass.

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Speaker 2: I got a scorpions hat and some other ones, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: I saw this crazy looking pig on here. That's all Neon.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that works for Bubba shows.

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Speaker 1: If you guys are looking to raz Us in person,

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Speaker 1: have a couple of beers, shoots, some golf, come out

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Speaker 1: to Arizona over Halloween and ten first Pitch Arizona. It's

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Speaker 1: a great conference that Baseball HQ puts on. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about some injuries. Though we haven't been here in a

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Speaker 1: few days because of the Labor Day weekend, we haven't

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Speaker 1: done a show in like five days, so let's catch

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Speaker 1: up on a couple of injury news and notes. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Tucker surprise, surprise everybody, He did, in fact fracture his

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Speaker 1: shin in June, as we all kind of expected. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've talked on god knows how many shows about like

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Speaker 1: what's going on. It can't just be a bruise, right,

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Speaker 1: it can't just be a bruise. Well, it wasn't a bruise.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why teams do this kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: but it looks like he's probably gonna return at the

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Speaker 1: end of the week, or so we're told. I won't

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Speaker 1: believe it until he's actually on a lineup card. But

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Speaker 1: can we do anything going forward with this? Or is

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Speaker 1: it just like Teams lie and we just have to

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Speaker 1: deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Teams Lie, we have to deal with it. I'd imagine

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Speaker 2: they'll talk about this in the off season, kind of

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Speaker 2: like the NFL made them report injuries, because when you

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Speaker 2: get into bed, like baseball is now with betting agencies,

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Speaker 2: you need to have a little more accountability to what

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Speaker 2: is going on in the world, because like, if Tucker's

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Speaker 2: out two weeks, you're taking a future's bet on the Astros.

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Speaker 2: You feel good. If you knew Tucker was out for

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Speaker 2: two months, how would that affect your thoughts or three months?

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Speaker 2: I should say. There's a lot of that going on.

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Speaker 2: And to your point is he was expected back Wednesday

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Speaker 2: or Thursday. Well, on Wednesday morning at day we're recording,

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Speaker 2: they said they hope to have him back in three

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Speaker 2: to five days. So yeah, so let's just and trust me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big Kyle Tucker fan. I love Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 2: This is beyond tilting. But I have some him to

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Speaker 2: get healthy for next year because I already took him

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Speaker 2: eighth overall in the Early Meet Paul Draft. So do

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Speaker 2: what you gotta do, kid.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand why they wouldn't be transparent. Like

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Speaker 1: I've talked with this on my show. It's not football,

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Speaker 1: it's not hockey. It's not like you're gonna get targeted

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Speaker 1: when you come back. I don't get it. I don't

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Speaker 1: get why they wouldn't just tell us. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: had been told when he first went down in June

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Speaker 1: that Tucker's gonna miss three months, would you have dropped him?

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Speaker 2: Then yes, I would have. Unfortunately, just because you know,

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Speaker 2: you do the math. Now we're getting it back in

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Speaker 2: mid September. That's three and a half months where I

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Speaker 2: could have been streaming guys and doing what and he's

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Speaker 2: been sitting on my bench because I'm stubborn and I

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Speaker 2: kept thinking, Okay, he'll be back here, he'll be back here,

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Speaker 2: and he never was. So I'm I'm not like angry

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Speaker 2: about it, but I'm very frustrated about the situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's some of those things.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad. I'm disappointed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's not like it was Paul de

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Speaker 1: Young or you know whoever that goes down and you think,

633
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Speaker 1: all right, well they're drop whatever. It's your first round pick.

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Speaker 1: You kind of have to just hold on and hope

635
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Speaker 1: for the best. But absolute worst case scenario. After we

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Speaker 1: started the season thinking Tucker might be in the one

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Speaker 1: one conversation next year, you know, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: he is at this point. But still he'll probably be

639
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Speaker 1: a first round pick just based on what he's able

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Speaker 1: to do in that lineup. Another kind of interesting one.

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Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom likely to make one more rehab start, but

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Speaker 1: there's also been some talk that he could maybe start

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Speaker 1: Saturday at the big league level and just not go

644
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Speaker 1: through another rehab at Double A. Seems unlikely, but it

645
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: has been discussed. I assume that you would throw de

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Speaker 1: Grom back into your lineup first time out, Bubba.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I usually don't throw guys like that, but yeah,

648
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 2: when it comes to Grom, we just we roll in

649
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: this situation, especially if you're looking at a weekend start

650
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: against the believe it's the Cubs. None of the Cubs

651
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Speaker 2: will fleaceing the Yankees, Texas, it would be the angel

652
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Speaker 2: So yes, you would start Jacob de Grom if he

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Speaker 2: pitches this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Oh yeah, because the thing is like you've been

655
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Speaker 1: holding him all season long. You haven't been holding him

656
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Speaker 1: when he comes back to sit him right like you're

657
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: getting him into the lineups. Even if he was face

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00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: a tough team, I feel like personally, I'd probably do

659
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: it what he's capable of doing in just a couple

660
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: of starts, Like he could give you a point six

661
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: ERA strikeout fifteen batters per nine and really really helps

662
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Speaker 1: secure some championships, especially in head toad leagues, if you

663
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: get that kind of reinforcement back man and I wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've talked about this with Well so he

665
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: thinks I'm a lunatic, but I think if de Grom

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Speaker 1: has a few de grom esque starts, we could see

667
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Speaker 1: him sneak into the first round next year. Is that crazy, Bubba?

668
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Speaker 2: I think second round first is tough, but you never know.

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Speaker 2: He was a former first round guy. I just have

670
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: a hard time with the first round because it there's

671
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: so much talent right now doing that early meatball draft, Like,

672
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: there is a lot of guys you could argue for

673
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: the back end of that first round right now.

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Speaker 1: It's very true. Yeah, the first round is absolutely packed

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Speaker 1: this year. Another one, this one is not so great.

676
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Speaker 1: Justin Steele, who recently did a show with us here

677
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: at Fantasy Pros unfortunately scratched from his start yesterday. With

678
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: elbow inflammation, it looks like a possibility that he ends

679
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: up on the IL that there's been not a ton

680
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: of clarity on when he's actually gonna pitch again. I

681
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: think Steele is probably for those and head to head leagues,

682
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: especially if you end on September fifteenth or even September

683
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: twenty second, there's just not a lot of time for

684
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: him to come back look like justin steel and actually

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Speaker 1: be productive. Do you think that's fair to say that

686
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Speaker 1: you should probably just drop him in most cases?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was hoping to get more information by Sunday,

688
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: and right now it's kind of radio silent. He's optimistic,

689
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: but we know how that goes. The Cubs aren't playing

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Speaker 2: for anything. He kind of wants Steel for next year

691
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Speaker 2: in my mind, So if you have no one to add, sure,

692
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Speaker 2: hold him. But I think he's he's probably a drop

693
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Speaker 2: because I would not force him to pitch if I'm

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Speaker 2: the Cubs right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, common refrain on my show is if you have

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Speaker 1: the IL space, then put him on the el But

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Speaker 1: who the hell has IL space this time of season?

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Speaker 1: Probably not too many people, But it's dicey, man, when

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Speaker 1: you've got elbow inflammation. You gotta hope that he comes

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Speaker 1: back and looks good. He could come back and look

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Speaker 1: awful and ruin your head to headweek for you, it's

702
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: a tricky situation. I think you probably hold on if

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Speaker 1: you can, but it's not looking great at this point

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Speaker 1: for Justin Steele. John Gray placed on the al with

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Speaker 1: a neuroma in his foot. Not one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 1: exactly what that is. You're not exactly dealing with a

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Speaker 1: couple of doctors up here, but it looks like he

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Speaker 1: will miss the rest of twenty twenty four, so you

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00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: can easily send John Gray back to the waiver wire

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Speaker 1: and Ludis Guriel. We alluded to it earlier because of

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Speaker 1: Randall Gritschet coming into the line up and doing good things.

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Speaker 1: But Guriel went to the isle with a calf injury

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Speaker 1: and Christian Walker was also activated from the IL, so

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Speaker 1: he goes back in the lineup. What does that mean

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Speaker 1: for Josh Bell, I guess is the question. Because Josh

716
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Speaker 1: Bell had been the replacement there had been doing pretty well,

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Speaker 1: and honestly he's still done pretty well. Home runs have

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Speaker 1: kind of dried up a little bit the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Do you think he still sees any playing

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Speaker 1: time Josh Bell. Is he gonna get in there some

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Speaker 1: DH at bats or is he more just like a

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Speaker 1: deep league guy? At this point, you think.

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Speaker 2: Right now they're saying Bell will still play verse left

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Speaker 2: handed pitching, which is a plus. Now the question is

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Speaker 2: how much does he sneak in there? Maybe the Guriel

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Speaker 2: injury opens the door for free more at bats at

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Speaker 2: d H or something. So it's tough like if it's

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Speaker 2: just left, he's only by a drop unless you're in

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Speaker 2: a deep, deep league. So keep an eye on what

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Speaker 2: goes on the rest of the week. Is the best

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Speaker 2: I can say on this one.

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Speaker 1: Think I'd have to agree with you there, Bubba, it

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Speaker 1: on the betting side, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It says, I love my prop bets. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: Francisco in door over one and a half total bases

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Speaker 2: at plus one thirty five. Fun matchup for the Mets

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Speaker 2: and anytime I get a little door at plus money

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Speaker 2: like this, I will roll with it. Lawrence Butler, I

744
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: said on the last time I was on the show

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Speaker 2: as mad there is no prop bets. Will you Homer

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Speaker 2: in his first at bat in that game, so that

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Speaker 2: was fun. But I'll take Lawrence Butler over one and

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Speaker 2: a half total bases at plus one twenty going up

749
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Speaker 2: against George Kirby, who's been atrocious of late, so I'll

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Speaker 2: take my chances there. And then you mentioned PCA going

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00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: oh for four with the Sun in his last start.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take him over a half a run tonight

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Speaker 2: at plus one six the little bounce back start there.

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00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: The Cubs offense has been very good, very favorable matchup

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Speaker 2: first Domingo Herman and the Pittsburgh Pirates, so I expect

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00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: a little bounce back from PCA, So three plus money

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Speaker 2: ones there for you.

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Speaker 1: I will also be looking to target Dimingo Herman, the

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Speaker 1: human pitching machine, and I'm taking Saya Suzuki over one

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Speaker 1: and a half total bases at plus one forty five.

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Speaker 1: It feels like a really nice number to get there

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Speaker 1: for Suzuki, who's been really just excellent this season, so

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Speaker 1: I really like that one. Spencer Araghetty over five and

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Speaker 1: a half strikeouts against the Cincinnati team that strikes out

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Speaker 1: a decent bit. I don't know why the line is

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Speaker 1: so low, considering what we've seen from him recently. That

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Speaker 1: one is set at minus one twenty five. It's in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: so there is a little bit of concern there that

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00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: I have whenever anybody's pitching in Cincinnati. But I think

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Speaker 1: five and a half is a very attainable number for Araghetty.

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Speaker 1: And then going back on something we said earlier about

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Speaker 1: bout In Francis, I just think he's run a little

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Speaker 1: bit too pure recently. I'm taking over two and a

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Speaker 1: half earned runs. Even if he allows three earn runs,

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Speaker 1: it can still be a good start. It doesn't mean

776
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna get blown up necessarily. But against Philadelphia, I

777
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: do think that we're gonna start to see him come

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Speaker 1: back to earth a little bit, So that would be mine.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Raghetti over five and a half strikeouts, say a

780
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: Suzuki over one and a half total bases about in

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00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: France's over two and a half earned runs, and then

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Speaker 1: Bubba Francisco Lindor over one and a half bases Lawrence

783
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Speaker 1: Butler over one and a half bases and Pete crow

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Speaker 1: Armstrong over point five runs. Friends, those are the best

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Speaker 1: bets of the day for Wednesday. Still got Joe and

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Speaker 1: Welsh here up on the art. We're probably not gonna

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Speaker 1: have any Joe and Bubba art rest of season. Maybe

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00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: we could pull something off, but I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to just be reminded of Joe and Welsh going forward. Bubba,

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Speaker 1: we got one more thing love to do today. I

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00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: don't think there is a new home run board, so

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Speaker 1: I apologize for those watching in the live chat, but

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Speaker 1: let's get your home run call for today before we

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Speaker 1: sign off.

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Speaker 2: I love to say a call by the way, he

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00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: was looking at that one quite a bit. But for me,

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00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: mett Olsen started to figure things out of late, it

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00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: feels like, and he get the Rockies taking the bump

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Speaker 2: there in Atlanta. So give me matt Olson finding the

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Speaker 2: seats there for the hometown favorites.

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Speaker 1: Matt Olsen has turned the season around a little bit.

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00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: I wonder how expensive he's gonna be next year. My

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Speaker 1: call for today is show heyo Tani. I know, I

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00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: know not the most original, but I took Reee Hoskins

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00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: last week on the show, and we got a Reese

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00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: Hoskins win. Went with a little more niche name last time.

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Speaker 1: But we're taking show. Hey, three days without a home run,

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00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: It's like, what does this guy have a temperature or something?

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00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: He's facing Griffin Canning, so I think that one should

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00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: be pretty easy to see tonight him taking Griffin Canning

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Speaker 1: yard tonight in Anaheim. But baba, we've done it. We've

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Speaker 1: taken over leading off. Thank you my friend for joining

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Speaker 1: me today. It's been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: It's been a blast. It's almost like we've done this

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Speaker 2: before together. So that was that was awesome and looking

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Speaker 2: forward to Friday, and listeners liked it. The chat was fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Joe and I will be with you guys every Wednesday

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Speaker 2: and Friday the rest of the way here in September.

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Speaker 2: So fun stuff and thanks again my friend, looking forward

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Speaker 2: to chatting a few days.

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Speaker 1: Always always let us know what you think. Throw some

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Speaker 1: comments into the chat. If you liked us, if you

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00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: hated us, if for better than Welsh and Joe, for

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00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: worse than Welson, Joe, whatever it is, let us know.

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Speaker 1: We always like to see any input you guys have

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Speaker 1: for us. Like Bubba said, we'll be back again on Friday,

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty pm Eastern nine thirty Pacific, running through the

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Speaker 1: same stuff we usually do, catching up on the previous

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Speaker 1: couple of days worth of action. I'll make sure you're

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Speaker 1: checking out Bubba over on the Twitter at b D

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Speaker 1: entric b D E N t R e K. I

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Speaker 1: am at Joel Rico ninety nine. Just my name in

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Speaker 1: the number ninety nine. Very original, of course, but that

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Speaker 1: will do it. Guys. We'll be back again on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Until then, take care, have yourselves a great day.

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