1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia for this Monday, April third 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, Sunday April second in New York. Coming 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: up today, OPEC Plus announces a surprise cut in oil 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: production of more than a million barrels a day. Tesla 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: deliveries rise to a record after the company cut prices 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: for evs and ubs. Will reportedly cut staff of up 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: to thirty percent after its takeover of Credit Suee China, 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: urging Japan not to join the US and the CHIP curbs. 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: This comes as Japan asks for the return of a 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: detained citizen from Beijing. Trump to be arraigned on Tuesday. 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Explosion in Saint Petersburg kills Russian pro war blogger. I'm 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: at Baxter with Global News. That's all straight ahead on 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, the business news you need to start 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: your day in just one fifteen minute podcast available on Apples, Spotify, 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app and everywhere you get your podcasts. 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Richard Salaman and I'm Dak Krisner. Here 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today, and we're looking at 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: OPEC Plus because it announced the surprise oil production cut 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: of more than a million barrels a day. It abandoned 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: previous assurances that it would hold supply steady. Dumb Closer, 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: an analyst at Oil Price Information Service, as the move 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: is not a good one for the consumer. This is 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: probably worth another three, four or five dollars barrel and 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: the price succrued, and that means higher prices for gasoline, diesel, 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: jet fuel, you name it. The resulting price hikes could 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: cause more inflation, which may force center banks to keep 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: interest rates higher for longer. Might house calls OPEC plus 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: is a move ill advised under current market conditions. Today, 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia leather Cartel by pledging its own five hundred 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: thousand barrel a day supply reduction. Philommers including Kuwait, the 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: United Air Memorates and Algeria follows it, while Russia said 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: the production cut was it was implementing from March to 33 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: June would continue until the end of the year. UBS 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: is reportedly reducing its workforce by between twenty and thirty percent. Now. 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: These job cuts come after UBS completed its takeover of 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Credit Suis. We have more from Bloomberg's Joe n Wang. 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: The Swiss newspaper Sontaks item reported as many as eleven 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: thousand UBS employees will be laid off in Switzerland and 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: another twenty five thousand will be let go worldwide. Both 40 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: UBS and Credit Suis together employed almost one hundred and 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand people at the end of last year. 42 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Now we hear some firms are gearing up to recruit 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: some of the investment bankers and wealth managers likely to 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: be let go. They include Joische Bank, Citigroup and JP Morgan. Separately, 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: The Financial Times reported Saturday that UBS has a shortlist 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: of four management consultants to advise on integrating Credit Suis. 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: The newspaper reported UBS is soon to decide between Bain 48 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: and Company, the Boston Consulting Group, McKinsey and Oliver Wyman 49 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, Joan Wang, Bloomberg Day Bricasia Well. In 50 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: another development, switch Land's Office of the Attorney General is 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: saying it has opened an investigation into UBS's takeover of 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Credit Suite and the department is working to identify possible crimes. Rashard, 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's have a look at Tesla now, 54 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: as it delivered a record four hundred and twenty two thousand, 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy five cars worldwide in the first quarter, 56 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: and that compares with the bad what four twenty one 57 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: thousand that anlets have been expecting. Although deliveries were roughly 58 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: in line, Tesla would have to pick up the pace 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: of deliveries for the rest of the year. That's according 60 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: to Gene Munster Deepwater Asset Management, saying that Tesla deliveries 61 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: group thirty six percent from a year ago. But months 62 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: have pointed out that CEO Elon Muska's call for fifty 63 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: percent delivery growth during the company's last earnings call. Tesla 64 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: even slash prices early in the year to to boost demand. 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: After fourth quarter deliveries are disappointed, Elon Musk and Tesla 66 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: aiming to make between one point eight to two million 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: vehicles this year. Well, the inflation data released in the 68 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: US last Friday was below estimates. The core rate of 69 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: the Personal Consumption Expenditures Price Index or PC rose a 70 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: mere three tenths of one percent last month. Now, as 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, this is the Fed's preferred measure of inflation. 72 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: This seems to suggest an end of an aggressive rate 73 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: hike cycle, maybe near an end. However, the head of 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: the Boston Fed as Susan Collins says it's simply too 75 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: early to assess whether FED policy where it will go next. 76 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: My assessment at the last meeting just last week with 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: the summary of economic projections did suggest an additional rate 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: hike and then pausing and holding over the year. But 79 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: I need to assess all of the data that's going 80 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: to come in between now and when our next meeting 81 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: is in early May. The new data that I've seen 82 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: just in the past week has not materially changed how 83 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about things. Boston FED President Susan Collins. There, 84 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: she went on to say the American economy will likely 85 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: see some credit tightening as the result of the recent 86 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: turmoil seen in the banking system, and she said the 87 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: path to easing inflation would not necessarily trigger an economic downturn. 88 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: Rashot Yeah. And meantime, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers said 89 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: it's too early to give any kind of all clear 90 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: sign on recent financial troubles in the US. Summers said 91 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: that there's well under a fifty percent chance of a 92 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: repeat of the bank runs that brought down Silicon Valley 93 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: Bank and Signature Bank earlier in March, but he did 94 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: say that there could still be some kind of other 95 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: accident that causes a constriction in credit. When you have 96 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: a series of earthquake tremors, it's a fairly long time 97 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: before you should be in a position to be confident 98 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: that you've seen the last of them. And that's why 99 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: the Fed's got such a difficult job. Summer said, it's 100 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: plausible the recent banking woes subside without a big impact 101 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: on credit, leaving in place serious inflation issues. In such 102 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: a scenario, he thinks the fair will have to tighten 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: much more than what is already priced into mukets. So 104 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: I think it goes without saying that our top story 105 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: today is this unexpected cut in production of crude oil 106 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: from OPEC plus, and I think it's fair to say 107 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: it's coming at a very inopportune time, just as some 108 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: of this disinflationary force seems to be taking hold. And 109 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: this is undoubtedly going to complicate what the FEED has 110 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: been trying to achieve. The impact of a cut by 111 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: one point one million barrels will likely lead to higher 112 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: inflation expectations in the month ahead. So even if credit 113 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: conditions tighten in the second half as a result of 114 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the stress that we have been seeing 115 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: in the banking system, the notion of rate cuts that 116 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: may be a little more difficult to conceive. We're going 117 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: to take a closer look at that dynamic with our 118 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: guest Peter Cheer of Academy Securities. Coming up, and before 119 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: we go to Global news from Dow Jones, McDonald's will 120 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: reportedly close its US offices temporarily this week. The fast 121 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: food chain is preparing to inform corporate employees about layoffs 122 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: as part of a broader restructuring. News is next. China 123 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: is urging Japan to refrain from joining the US in 124 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: restricting the export and access to chip making equipment at Baxter. 125 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: With more from the Bloomberg Newserman San Francisco Eddie. Yeah, 126 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: that's right do. Beijing is saying the US is trying 127 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: to suppress the Chinese semiconductor industry, and the suggestion comes 128 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: with a veiled threat because it comes at the same 129 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: time Japan is asking for the swift return of a 130 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: Japanese citizen being detained in China. Beijing says a chip 131 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: blockade will only strengthen its resolve and chief self reliance. 132 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: China says a US in the past is suppress Japan 133 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: and now is suppressing China. Meanwhile, the US is called 134 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: in the G seven nations to take joint countermeasures if 135 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: China engages an economic coercion. Donald Trump, the first former 136 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: or sitting president to be criminally indicted, is set to 137 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: be processed, photoed, fingerprinted, and arrange and on Tuesday, US. 138 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: His attorney, Joe Tacopino says that Trump will plead not guilty. 139 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: He's gearing up for a battle. You know, this is 140 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: something that obviously we believe it is a political persecution, 141 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: and I think people on both sides of the I'll 142 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: believe that that's a complete abuse of power. Tacopin on 143 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: ABC has heard here on Bloomberg, says they're thinking about 144 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: a motion to move the trial to Staten Island, but 145 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: needs to actually see the charges first. And we're ready 146 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: for this fight, and I look forward to moving this 147 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: thing along as quickly as possible to exonerate him. He says. 148 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: If this case wasn't Donald Trump, it would never have 149 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: gone this far. Now, if there is a trial, the 150 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: key witness will be Trump fixer Michael Cohen on CBS 151 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: has heard here on Bloomberg. Cohen says well, his testimony 152 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: will not be about him. This is solely about accountability. 153 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: I should not be held accountable for Donald Trump's dirty deeds. 154 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: Let him be held accountable. Let those in his orbit 155 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: that are truly accountable, like Bill Barr Right, who he 156 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: used to weaponize the Justice Department against his critics. He 157 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: says he's ready to be a powerful witness. Meanwhile, Donald 158 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: Trump last week on Fox News said that the final analysis, 159 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin will win in Ukraine, but ultimately he's going 160 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: to take over all of Ukraine. So should a former 161 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: president be making those kinds of statements. Well, on CNN today, 162 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: the chair of the Foreign Intelligence Committee, Mike Turner said 163 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: that is not a foregone conclusion at all, and people 164 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: should stop making those kinds of statements. He says Putin 165 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't expect the kind of help in Ukraine that Ukraine 166 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: is getting from NATO. Putin has said, this is not 167 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: about Ukraine, this is about Eastern Europe, this is about NATO, 168 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: this is about our allies. And President She of China 169 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: and Putin together said this is a result of they're 170 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: trying to turn back one hundred years. This is authoritarianism 171 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: versus democracy. We all need to be on the side 172 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: of democracy turners. In southern Poland today, an explosion to 173 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: cafe in Saint Petersburg, Russia, has killed Ladin Tatarowski, the 174 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: military blogger who has supported the war in Ukraine. The 175 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: explosion also injured twenty five people. The device was the 176 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: size of a bar of soap, was hidden in a 177 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: statuette presented to him. That's a task report Global News 178 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalist and a 179 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: list in over one hundred twenty countries. In San Francisco, 180 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm Ed Baxter, and this is Bloomberg. Let's get to 181 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: our guest to Peter Cheer is with us. He is 182 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: head of macro strategy at Academy Securities. On the line 183 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: from here in New York City, Peter, it's always a pleasure. 184 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Just when the market seemed to be 185 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: taking a little bit of comfort in this reading on 186 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: the PCE that was below forecast, we have an oil 187 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: shock now with OPEC plus cutting production unexpectedly by more 188 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: than a million barrels a day. What does this do 189 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: to the idea that inflation is going to come down 190 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: anytime soon. I think it throws a little bit of 191 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: a rent into that plan. So just this past week 192 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: I highlighted how much freight shipments were down in the US. 193 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: The imports into ports were way down. So it's actually 194 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: not surprising if OPEC is responding because they're probably seeing 195 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: demand for oil's shrink as the economy is slowing. So 196 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: to me, that's a bit of confirmation the economy is slowing. 197 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: That's why OPEC is responding that way. And the flip 198 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: side of this, it's probably a good reminder of the 199 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: geopolitical influences that are around right now, where countries in 200 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: the the least are less dependent on the US than 201 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: they once were and may be I don't want to 202 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: say lashing out, but expressing their frustration at policies towards 203 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: the Middle East at US. The thing is how much 204 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: of an impact will this have on inflation? And that's 205 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: going to be key here is that we look at 206 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: the federal result. I think it's not going to have 207 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: as much as people thinks. Obviously, the price of oil 208 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: is going to go higher. I think it's trading five 209 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: or six dollars a barrel more and that's going to 210 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: put some pressure on the system. But as a whole. 211 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: I think it's in response to the slowing that they're 212 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: seeing that showing up in the data, that freight's turning down, 213 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: that things like the Baltic Drive and turning down. So 214 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: I think it's going to create a little bit of 215 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: inflation fear earlier in the week, But to me, it's 216 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: really going to resonate with the recession is coming crowd 217 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: and people are going to be able to talk about 218 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: ALPEC doing this because they're seeing so much less demand 219 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: because the economy is slowing much more than the official 220 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: data is hinting at. But I'm wondering if we begin 221 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: to see a move up in inflation expectations even before 222 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: some of the data points began to roll over, and 223 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: whether or not that complicates the Fed's job and the 224 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: notion of rate cuts really are taken off the table 225 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: between now and the end of the year. I think 226 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: the FED was already trying to get the rate cuts 227 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: off the table, and they already have an incredibly tough 228 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: job trying to figure out what they've already done had 229 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: they pushed too far, what triggered the crisis with Silicon 230 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: Valley Bank. So they were already in a rock and 231 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: hard place. This is just going to add to that 232 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: pressure right now. With that in mind, I mean, let's 233 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: not forget that. You know, as we see what happened 234 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: with the banks and the liquidity issues, when does this 235 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: also affect credit? And I mean that we got these 236 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: banks who are lightly to be putting up the drool 237 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: bridge is going to be having much stricter criteria for 238 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: making loans and the light that that could, of course 239 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: act as I think they fed themselves suggested between twenty 240 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: five and fifty basis points as tightening, but it could 241 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: be much more surely, So I think it's happening. The 242 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: good news, I guess in some ways is that it 243 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: started happening over a year ago. So when I talked 244 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: to large banks, large institutional lenders, they were already tightening 245 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: credit standards. So this has been in the past, so 246 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: it's going to hurt a little bit more. I think 247 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: what's really difficult to tell is that it's probably going 248 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: to hit small and midsized companies more than the big 249 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: companies or anythink the big companies have been very good 250 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: credits companies that have went to them have done well, 251 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: so I don't think it's going to be dramatic, but 252 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: it is going to be there. I think we're gonna 253 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: have to watch local economies very closely because I think 254 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: this is going to be a very local phenomena. Peter, 255 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: as you know, we saw enormous volatility in US treasuries 256 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: for most of the month of March. In your view 257 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: or things going to be calmer now as we get 258 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: into the second order, I hope so, But the reality 259 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: is I don't think they will be. I think we've 260 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: traded our liquidity system for something that creates the perception 261 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: of liquidity when you don't get big moves, so everything's 262 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: super liquid looking. There's little bit off or costs because 263 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: all these algos are there. But if someone has some 264 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: size to move, liquidity dissipates pretty quickly. And we're heading 265 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: into the summer, so I think this might just be 266 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: a brief respite from that higher volatility. April it's traditionally 267 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: the best, if not one of the best months for equities. 268 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: Are you killing your loins in optimism and an anticipation? 269 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: I am actually not this time. I started being a 270 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: little bit cautious last week. Obviously was wrong. We had 271 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: a nice three and a half percent equity rally in 272 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: the US, and I'm actually getting more cautious. You know, 273 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: I had to rethink about was I wrong, what did 274 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: I miss? And I think the markets got ahead of 275 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: themselves last week, and I'm looking for a bit of 276 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: a pullback and if anything, hopefully for my sake, these 277 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: higher oil prices push us down a little bit on 278 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious to get your take on China right now, Peter, 279 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: and how you're viewing what has been a pretty impressive 280 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: reopening story. It may be waning just a little bit 281 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: at the moment, but are you bullish on the China story? 282 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I am not. I continue to see the one thing 283 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: the US politicians are bipartisan on is their distrust of China, 284 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: and I think that friction is real. I thought it 285 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: was encouraging jack Ma was allegedly back on shore and 286 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: being involved in some things. I just see this long 287 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: term trend that China is less to do with the US, 288 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: and so that's why I can't get too bullish over 289 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: China again. You know, you know sort of seen the 290 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: regulatory I guess a storm Claus disappeared, But you know, 291 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: when you've got something like the breakup of Ali Baba 292 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: doesn't that in any way change that you're thinking, given 293 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: that it perhaps may indicate that they are turning more 294 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: market friendly once again, there's certainly it was an encouraging steps. 295 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: So it made me from Diehardberrish to Okay, let's think 296 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: about what they're doing. But China does play a long game, 297 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: and I can't really tell whether this is a significant 298 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: concession that's going to be good for us in the 299 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: long run, or this is just keeping the wheels turning right. 300 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: I think China is very good every time the US 301 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: pushes hard on it, coming up with some plan that 302 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: lets the US back off and say, Okay, China's playing 303 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: nice again, only to realize six months to a year 304 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: down the road they're not. And I think the earlier 305 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: segment you were talking about China and Japan on chips, 306 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a much bigger issue. There's this overall 307 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: almost chip battle going on, and that's going to override 308 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: all the little things that we're seeing. So I just 309 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: can't get that comfortable with China. Well, you mentioned Japan there, Peter, 310 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: And as you know, at the end of the week, 311 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: Harihiko Coroda will end what has been a ten year 312 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: run as the head of the Bank of Japan. A 313 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: new governor, Kazuo Ueita, will take the reins, and there 314 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: had been a lot of speculation as to whether or 315 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: not we're going to see a Polish to shift on 316 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: the part of the BOJ under this new governor. Is 317 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: that something you're expecting. I would expect to see a 318 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: little bit of a shift. They've been somewhat the one outlier, 319 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: I think, as the ECB and FET have been so aggressive. 320 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: Japan has done a few things like these restrictions on 321 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: their targeting of where the tenure has to trade, but 322 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: they've still been relatively easy money. So it would not 323 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: surprise me to see them fold into the world order 324 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more and come out a little bit hockey, 325 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: which I think would be a surprise. Well as what's 326 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: his legacy. Yeah, that's a hard one to say. I 327 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: think China, you know, sorry, Japan. The one thing they 328 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: managed to go through this crisis is they did not 329 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: have the inflation that the rest of the world had, 330 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: and that's something I think we're all trying to figure 331 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: out why why not. I do think Japan's actually gonna 332 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: be a really interesting investing story as countries get more 333 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: and more nervous about China and their sphere of influence. Japan, 334 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: I think is a very good foil to that, and 335 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm expecting Japan to actually do very well of the 336 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: coming years. So, Peter, if you had to begin the 337 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: second quarter on taking a long position in markets globally 338 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: right now, is there a case or something that you 339 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: see a scenario that is particularly attractive. I actually like Japan. 340 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I think is interesting, and I've got to rethink. I 341 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: was actually very bullish energy because I believe a lot 342 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: of people were playing energy from the short side, thinking 343 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: that that was going to be one way to express 344 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: the economic slowdown, and OPEC plus's willingness to restrict that 345 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: might make that trade even more interesting and could help 346 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: energy companies across the globe. What would be your trade though, 347 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: what would be your favorite trade? I like some of 348 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: the European energy companies that are very progressive in terms 349 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: of moving towards sustainability, but have a very good core business. 350 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: So I like that right now, and I would probably 351 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: buy some long dated treasuries, and overall, I would short 352 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: some of the more disruptive things that have moved up recently, 353 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: very quickly Peter on the subject of geopolitics, how are 354 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: you evalue waiting that risk globally right now? So you know, 355 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: at Academy we work for seventeen retire generals and admirals. 356 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: We talked about this all the time. We've felt some 357 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: recent summits. There has not been a time in the 358 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: last five years that we have seen as much geopolitical 359 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: risk out there, and very meaningful geopolitical risk that you 360 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: could see China's selling weapons to Russia, which I think 361 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: would be dramatic for the markets. North Korea is saber 362 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: rattling again, so I'm very nervous and I don't see 363 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: a lot of good outcomes on the geopolitical front. So 364 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: that's something I think the market is not pricing in 365 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: right now. This is Bloomberg day Break Asia. 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