Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda land Audio
Speaker 1: in partnership with I Heart Radio. Hi everybody, and welcome
Speaker 1: back to the second episode of the season finale of
Speaker 1: Katie's Crib season three. If you haven't already, make sure
Speaker 1: you've listened to episode one of this two for so
Speaker 1: you can hear from Shay Mitchell in March. And then
Speaker 1: we decided we had to do an addendum to that episode.
Speaker 1: I had to hear how Shay Mitchell is doing now.
Speaker 1: I wanted to know during this time that has been
Speaker 1: so insane for everybody, and especially for mothers who have newborns, babies,
Speaker 1: toddler's children, out of school, this whole situation we find ourselves.
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta talk to Shane Mitchell. I
Speaker 1: got to hear about what this past year has been
Speaker 1: like for her. And so here you have it, the
Speaker 1: second episode of the two part finale of Katie's Group
Speaker 1: season three, Shane Mitchell, the one and only. Enjoy it, guys,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. Guys. This is uh like
Speaker 1: being in a time capsule. Shane Mitchell just exploded her
Speaker 1: hands off her temples because the last time we saw
Speaker 1: each other it was literally the day before shutdown, the
Speaker 1: day before shutdown, and I remember you've been telling like
Speaker 1: my team, You're like, okay, and I know that there's
Speaker 1: this thing starting, so if you don't feel say, we
Speaker 1: have so much hand sanitizer. And I was like we
Speaker 1: no one knew what it was, what was going on.
Speaker 1: We were all like wait, what, Like, I just remember,
Speaker 1: like so much hand sanitized and I'm still doing that
Speaker 1: to this day. So it's been a full year of that.
Speaker 1: It's wild a full year we're coming upon. Since I
Speaker 1: saw you face to face, you may be the last
Speaker 1: person I saw unmasked that is outside of my pot
Speaker 1: or my family. We felt the major impulse to hug,
Speaker 1: but we were like, let's shake elbows or feet because
Speaker 1: we don't know what this is. And here we are
Speaker 1: one year later. There's toilet paper back on the shelves
Speaker 1: in the grocery store, though, because the week we left
Speaker 1: saw each other there was no toilet paper. Everyone was
Speaker 1: running to this grocery store cleaning out all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And we were like, let's talk about motherhood. Yeah, Also,
Speaker 1: you had a five month old Atlas at the time.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, And I didn't know was literally
Speaker 1: two minutes pregnant with my daughter via Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: which is so crazy and congratulations you have two kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a journey. It's been a journey, and I
Speaker 1: got pregnant. I think March eighth and shutdown was marked thirteen.
Speaker 1: So we just talked about that first set because I
Speaker 1: actually feel extreme jealousy for all women who have been
Speaker 1: pregnant courts. Now, there's some people that I know are
Speaker 1: going to be like, what do you mean we haven't
Speaker 1: been able to go out, And that's a fair point too,
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I should have actually should have done
Speaker 1: this last March. I'm like, just to have been home,
Speaker 1: not to have been worried about be now you know,
Speaker 1: you're like, it's been amazing. I've worned sweatpants for a year,
Speaker 1: Like I've literally made a human birth to human and back.
Speaker 1: I've been in sweatpants the entire time. I've seen nobody.
Speaker 1: I know. I've nested, like, I mean, when this is over,
Speaker 1: I'm never nesting again. I have to say, I'm sure
Speaker 1: over it. But now, wait, are you are you thinking
Speaker 1: about ever having a second? Do we know? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I wish it was last March, like
Speaker 1: you know, just because it does feel like this time
Speaker 1: has been so nice, like to be spending it with Atlas,
Speaker 1: and and that has been the silver lining of this
Speaker 1: whole thing, because without it being like this, I would
Speaker 1: have been traveling once a month, and and you know,
Speaker 1: who knows how many of those little moments I would
Speaker 1: have missed looking back on it now, So it's a
Speaker 1: completely different, you know, experience, and I have than my
Speaker 1: other friends without children. I get that, like I completely
Speaker 1: different experience. Being able to wake up to her changing
Speaker 1: every single day and seeing these changes has has been incredible.
Speaker 1: So I love that is a silver lifed day. And
Speaker 1: also when we last spoke a year ago, and I
Speaker 1: can say still to this day, you are still one
Speaker 1: of the most unflappable moms I've ever spoken to you.
Speaker 1: So my question to you is that I've been dying
Speaker 1: to ask in this year of quarantine, have you stayed
Speaker 1: that way? Are you chill is fuck still? If you are,
Speaker 1: please send it my way, because I'm not tell me
Speaker 1: how parenting at List during this past year has changed
Speaker 1: that or made it stronger. I can only speak from
Speaker 1: my experience with this one child that I have and
Speaker 1: you know, are we following all the rules and she
Speaker 1: sleep trained perfectly? No? Absolutely not. Does she wake up
Speaker 1: at two when we bring into our bed? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: am I okay with it? Yeah, because I'm not getting
Speaker 1: enough to go to set at seven am where I
Speaker 1: need a full night sleep. But by the way, when
Speaker 1: I bring her in, she sleeps until seven thirty, So
Speaker 1: it's like a peaceful thing and I love waking up
Speaker 1: next to her. So it's like that's changed. So is
Speaker 1: my sleep routine exactly how I would have imagined to be.
Speaker 1: Now that's not structured. She goes to bed at seven
Speaker 1: thirty every night, but the wake up and ending up
Speaker 1: in our bed is a new thing. And we're like,
Speaker 1: all right, whatever, it's quarantine or whatever this is. Now
Speaker 1: at this point she's not hit the two stage. I
Speaker 1: think we need to check back in after she's like two,
Speaker 1: becase my runner. You can be my runner of like
Speaker 1: the next four or five seasons. We'll just always check in,
Speaker 1: Just always check in, because I know the teenagers are
Speaker 1: going to be a whole other experience, But for right now,
Speaker 1: it's a different experience than what I'm sure I may
Speaker 1: have had if we were traveling with her on the road.
Speaker 1: You know, I may have been like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: hey like her on the plane and then at the
Speaker 1: hotel she was jet like. But I haven't had that
Speaker 1: experience to compare it to. So for her being at home, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean she's still we're still like, I'm not potty
Speaker 1: training yet. We haven't hit any of those milestones. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's good. It's more of the same. I
Speaker 1: have help here, you know, um to do this and
Speaker 1: to be working without completely again another experience. I have
Speaker 1: no idea how I would handle it. The milestones she
Speaker 1: has hit though, in this quarantine she I'm assuming she
Speaker 1: took her first steps, she started walking running around. Has
Speaker 1: that been emotional for you that you've been kind of
Speaker 1: alone with all these things? The thing that I missed
Speaker 1: the most is not having my family and Matt's family
Speaker 1: able to see her and you know, in real life,
Speaker 1: because FaceTime a whole lot of that. Like she gets
Speaker 1: it now, she sees that's still for us. The only
Speaker 1: screen time that we've really had is when she uses
Speaker 1: FaceTime to see my parents. So she's always like, whoa,
Speaker 1: you know, every I don't know what she's going to
Speaker 1: think when she starts seeing TV, she'll think that people
Speaker 1: can wave back to her. But right now, it's like
Speaker 1: she's seen my family that way. So that's the thing
Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh, I wish my grandma could just
Speaker 1: be seeing her right now. That has been the hardest part,
Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, her milestones are crazy. Every single night,
Speaker 1: Matt and I are going to bed and we're literally
Speaker 1: just looking at the phone from those days photos and
Speaker 1: videos and we do that too. You know, it's sick.
Speaker 1: It's like you put them down to thirty and then
Speaker 1: you spend your night looking at photos of them. It's
Speaker 1: the most disgusting. I'm like excited to put her to bed,
Speaker 1: but then I'm also excited to wake her up. Like
Speaker 1: that doesn't go away. I still do that with my
Speaker 1: three year old. I'm like, please go to sleep, like
Speaker 1: you're a toddler. You're so hard right now, And he
Speaker 1: goes down, and then what am I doing. I'm in
Speaker 1: bed scrolling through the photos of the day and his
Speaker 1: videos like it's I know, it's insane, it's insane, but
Speaker 1: I didn't have an emotional time like everyone now and
Speaker 1: again I'll look and I'll be like, but she's so
Speaker 1: big now. And Matt's like, okay, but bait, like that's
Speaker 1: what we want. I'm like, I know, but like look
Speaker 1: at her bed then, you know, did I really soak
Speaker 1: that in? And of course I did. I was there
Speaker 1: every moment for it. But it's just it's it's it's wild.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wow, I get it now, Mom and Dad,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I get it. You know, has anything for
Speaker 1: the motherhood journey popped up for you that's been like
Speaker 1: super unexpected. Having a child has definitely made me realize
Speaker 1: just time is flying. Um, you know, it's tough, just
Speaker 1: because it's like I'm trying to figure out ways to
Speaker 1: help her development while being at home. Fortunately for us,
Speaker 1: we went to Vancouver for a few months. I think
Speaker 1: that amazing. We're going back. It's it's different. It's different
Speaker 1: over there. I think they have less cases and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just a different vo They have
Speaker 1: like parks open, there's like there's there's some there's a
Speaker 1: bit more normals. I mean, all of my friends who
Speaker 1: are shooting in Vancouver, I like, look at there because
Speaker 1: you have to quarantine there, right, you know, like so
Speaker 1: things are working over there. So I do feel like
Speaker 1: that is something that I'm going to be doing with her.
Speaker 1: I have to take her back because I want to
Speaker 1: enroll her in some classes so she can see other kids.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's the only thing that has been really
Speaker 1: weird that I would never have thought i'd have to
Speaker 1: deal with. Pre COVID is really really hard. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: other thing you've been doing in quarantine is you've been
Speaker 1: working out a ton Like what what? What inspired that?
Speaker 1: Just being stuck at home and feeling the need to
Speaker 1: move or I feel like yeah, lash after I feel
Speaker 1: like Vanity Fair that was the last big event that
Speaker 1: I went to. After that, I was like, Okay, we're here, Like, um,
Speaker 1: I'm a new mom. I feel like I should be
Speaker 1: back at work. What am I doing? A little bit
Speaker 1: of a struggle of course, Like I talked about, the
Speaker 1: silver lining of this was being able to spend all
Speaker 1: this time with that list, But it was a lot
Speaker 1: of changes really quickly. For me. It was now being
Speaker 1: a stay at home mom, working from home and not
Speaker 1: being able to travel go to my job. Feel like
Speaker 1: any part of my old life was there. And I
Speaker 1: think that it was the biggest struggle. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: I was just coming into this like without child, like
Speaker 1: I was coming into this as like a new mom
Speaker 1: and like trying to figure out my new place in
Speaker 1: this world. While the world was really hard. Whoa, It's
Speaker 1: like your whole identity shifted, whole identity, but the whole
Speaker 1: world changed too, so it's like, what the hell? Who
Speaker 1: are we? And I right? And and you know it
Speaker 1: forced me to in it to a position that I
Speaker 1: wasn't used to before, which was a stay at home mom.
Speaker 1: I wasn't prepared for that. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: we talked about that last time too, but I have
Speaker 1: friends that are incredible, and that in itself, as we
Speaker 1: both know, is a full time job. I wasn't ready
Speaker 1: for that job, hardest job in the world. I didn't
Speaker 1: think about it like that. I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: will have that list, I have an incredible team, I'll
Speaker 1: be able to travel, feel like myself again, come back
Speaker 1: be a mom. And that was taken it out. So
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, not feel bad for me,
Speaker 1: but like, oh my gosh, I need to figure this out.
Speaker 1: And from that I was like, Okay, I'll figure it
Speaker 1: out while sitting here, and you know, really enjoying myself
Speaker 1: with you know, maybe not the best food, maybe not
Speaker 1: you know, having too much wine, you know, at the
Speaker 1: beginning and all of that. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not even moving. And I realized how much I
Speaker 1: used to just move. Whether it was going to the
Speaker 1: grocery store. I cut that out because I was getting
Speaker 1: my groceries delivered. So it was like all of that
Speaker 1: movement had stopped. And I've always said my entire life,
Speaker 1: I've been active since I was a child. I've always
Speaker 1: talked about working out for my mental health. That is
Speaker 1: my therapy. And when I stopped doing that because I
Speaker 1: don't have it. I didn't have a gym in my
Speaker 1: house at that time, I was like, Okay, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to go on walks because paparazzi out there. I
Speaker 1: don't feel like getting photographed in my sweatpants and stained
Speaker 1: shirt today. So it was like all of that just
Speaker 1: took a toll. And I felt like ship last year
Speaker 1: Atlas was the best part of that. But mentally for me,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't feel myself, like all of
Speaker 1: old Shay was gone. And so for me, I knew
Speaker 1: that I had to make a change. I wanted to
Speaker 1: go into one different and January one I remember, like
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, I went Ham, I ordered everything, and
Speaker 1: I've been doing that for the last six months. But
Speaker 1: like Ham and jan first, I'm like, no, I need
Speaker 1: to be healthier. I need to be what I was
Speaker 1: doing before this because I have to be strong and
Speaker 1: be here for Atlas. It's not just about me anymore.
Speaker 1: I want to be the best version. I want her
Speaker 1: to see me eating salads and not ordering all of
Speaker 1: this stuff every single day. Like trust me, I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of junk food, but in moderation, not every
Speaker 1: single day is my clutch. And so after I made
Speaker 1: that change, like now I'm like, I feel so freaking strong.
Speaker 1: I can pick her up my arms at any time,
Speaker 1: I can walk upstairs. I'm not out of breath. Like
Speaker 1: now I'm like cool, I feel like me And now
Speaker 1: I can be the best mom to you, the best
Speaker 1: partner to Matt, the best everything to everybody else because
Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm at my strongest again, And
Speaker 1: that was super important. And also you set up the boundary,
Speaker 1: you know, you set up the boundary of like you
Speaker 1: know this is my time, you know, like I take
Speaker 1: this hour every day or whatever it is that you
Speaker 1: do three days is where you're like, I have to
Speaker 1: do this for mental physical health. I used to think
Speaker 1: about working out, you know, it's such a vanity what
Speaker 1: I look like, and now it's so much like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just want to sap it here. I just want
Speaker 1: to be here for like a really long time so
Speaker 1: I can see your life and if that means that
Speaker 1: my heart is like able to do cardio so that
Speaker 1: I don't get sick, you know, like I actually it
Speaker 1: sounds dark, but like that's how I think about it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just really need to be healthy so
Speaker 1: I can like watch your life as long as I
Speaker 1: can and look back and be like I did what
Speaker 1: I could to be here. Man like absolutely absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a you know, it's a weird world. Last night
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a uh, you know,
Speaker 1: an ups and downs because I did my post. I
Speaker 1: posted this photo showing as a new mom, I feel
Speaker 1: super strong. So many people were like, wait, you should
Speaker 1: have a trigger warning with that. I'm like, I understand that.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I actually don't understand. And social
Speaker 1: media I've always been able to not pay attention to,
Speaker 1: but that really bothered me. I don't know how that
Speaker 1: can affect anybody in a negative way because I busted
Speaker 1: my ass and I have proved a show for that.
Speaker 1: Like I worked out, I ate healthy. That is how
Speaker 1: I feel strong now. It's not about a diet t
Speaker 1: it's not about any of that stuff. I now feel
Speaker 1: like my old self and that needs to be celebrated,
Speaker 1: especially as a new mom. I couldn't. I could not
Speaker 1: agree with you more. Yeah, Dolphace hasn't gone back is
Speaker 1: on hamew So is this like the least like for you?
Speaker 1: This is like being on set. It's slowed down for you.
Speaker 1: Does that feel good to you? Do you feel like
Speaker 1: you hate? Like? Are you like itching to get back
Speaker 1: to work? I'm not. I'm not itching because as I've been,
Speaker 1: you know, keeping myself busy with like social media content,
Speaker 1: still the YouTube, and then I have I launched Onto
Speaker 1: which is ready to drink to quill a brand in
Speaker 1: June of last year. So I've been busy and bass
Speaker 1: that have allowed me to stay home, which is nice.
Speaker 1: But I remember we were talking. I was launching the
Speaker 1: diaper bags and it's out, We're sold out, we're getting restocked.
Speaker 1: So every day I'm replying to comments with my friends
Speaker 1: are like when's the backpack back? And that has been
Speaker 1: so much fun? Like it's that has been so cool.
Speaker 1: Bas is like my first baby, thank you um bass
Speaker 1: was like my first you know baby, and and my
Speaker 1: creative you know um energy is being put somewhere, So
Speaker 1: I feel good about that. To physically be on set,
Speaker 1: do I miss that ish But to me, to be
Speaker 1: quite honest with you, for me to go back to
Speaker 1: being on set and being away from our physically, because
Speaker 1: I can do so much from home, it has to
Speaker 1: be a great project, like I have to want to
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not just doing you know. I don't
Speaker 1: feel that strong about I'm not going to keep myself
Speaker 1: away from over twelve however many hours on set now,
Speaker 1: So I have a different perspective with that, and I
Speaker 1: think that's the one thing I let my whole team know,
Speaker 1: like unless it's a project, I feel really passionate about
Speaker 1: not itching, you know. That's the biggest shift I feel
Speaker 1: like with motherhood is definitely like everything comes down to
Speaker 1: like a choice where this takes me away from my family,
Speaker 1: my children, So it either has to be worth it
Speaker 1: financially or artistically. Absolutely, or you know something that you're like,
Speaker 1: it has to be a real reason. So this year,
Speaker 1: we have truly been forced to sit with ourselves and
Speaker 1: we've we're reassessing a lot of things in our personal
Speaker 1: lives and in our country. How have you been reflecting
Speaker 1: and how has this time shaped you? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: just everything Like what you just said, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because how much has happened in this past year. There's
Speaker 1: two sides to it. On one side, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I feel you know, the positive side, I'm like, we
Speaker 1: are making movement. I want to say that we are
Speaker 1: heading in the right direction, you know, and that's and
Speaker 1: that's exciting, that's positive. And then on the other side,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, we've been in this safe
Speaker 1: little bubble here and now I'm like freaked out. I'm
Speaker 1: freaked out when this is over, Like then she's out
Speaker 1: there and then she's in this world, and this world
Speaker 1: is all so crazy. While we're moving, I want to
Speaker 1: say in a better direction, there's also so much happening.
Speaker 1: And I'm like I teeter tot her between like feeling
Speaker 1: safe in this moment right now because she's at home
Speaker 1: and I have her here and she's not in school
Speaker 1: yet and all of that to then also be like,
Speaker 1: but I want you to see the world. So this
Speaker 1: year is really kind of tugged with my emotions of
Speaker 1: like wanting it to be over and wanting to push
Speaker 1: her out there, but then also wanting to keep her
Speaker 1: safe in this little bubble that we've had. Of course,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if I feel like we're going
Speaker 1: to feel that way our whole lives. I'm in the
Speaker 1: same I didn't put out THEA in pre school because
Speaker 1: I was pregnant and then I had a newborn and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like this is crazy.
Speaker 1: But I have a three and a half year old
Speaker 1: toddler who doesn't see friends, and he writes socialization and
Speaker 1: he needs to learn how to share and like get
Speaker 1: out there. But I'm keeping him in this protected bubble
Speaker 1: because I have a twelve week old and it's just
Speaker 1: like it's a But I think we'll feel that we
Speaker 1: have of wanting to keep them safe but then also
Speaker 1: wanting them to expand and have life experiences and learn
Speaker 1: how to pick themselves up when they fall down. What
Speaker 1: advice or heads up would you have given to Shay
Speaker 1: Mitchell in March of know right, oh, man, Like what
Speaker 1: would we have told ourselves then, I don't know, go
Speaker 1: out to a party, like go on a trip right now,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like where there was less cases like
Speaker 1: just go on a trip and then come back, get
Speaker 1: it out of I mean, I don't know what we
Speaker 1: could have said to ourselves back then that would have
Speaker 1: prepared us for to have a whole I know I
Speaker 1: would have said to myself, get pregnant right out, trying
Speaker 1: it right now, That's what I would have said to myself. Actually,
Speaker 1: what am I saying now is the perfect time, Shay like,
Speaker 1: because it was hard for me. It was hard to
Speaker 1: be pregnant, and as it is for so for everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But like you took to go to work,
Speaker 1: you know, to be out, and then we talked about
Speaker 1: the paparazzi photos, them getting you at your worst when
Speaker 1: you already don't feel great, you feel vulnerable. That was hard.
Speaker 1: So had I could have just you know, not have
Speaker 1: had that. I don't know. I have so many mixed
Speaker 1: of feelings about how I felt and and and some
Speaker 1: of it is like blurry to me now, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's obviously, what it does so that we
Speaker 1: get pregnant again completely wipes your memory. Because you know,
Speaker 1: I'll watch some videos and I will say, for the
Speaker 1: majority of it, I was so blessed and like liked
Speaker 1: a lot of it. But the parts that I didn't like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, wow, it's like I want to say,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest and say it, like I
Speaker 1: wanted sibling so bad, but I don't want to go
Speaker 1: through pregnancy again. And and I wasn't that be mean
Speaker 1: goddess that absolutely loved it. I don't want to do
Speaker 1: it again, um, because it is. It took a oh
Speaker 1: I mean mentally, you know, and that's what we said,
Speaker 1: like I had pre partum, not post pre and and
Speaker 1: that was something that I didn't know back then. I
Speaker 1: only heard postpartum, so I was preparing myself for that.
Speaker 1: But then when I was like upset and not feeling
Speaker 1: my best jury and I was like, wait, what's this
Speaker 1: nobody talking about? I should be so happy right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm nervous to go back into it for that again. However,
Speaker 1: I feel like if I'm home and I can be
Speaker 1: comfortable and I don't have to like I don't put
Speaker 1: the pressure on myself for being on set for doing that.
Speaker 1: It will be I'll be more at ease. And also
Speaker 1: you can have the tools like set up, Like I
Speaker 1: have friends who had I think it's perinatal depression, which
Speaker 1: I really need to do an episode on, but people
Speaker 1: who have really horrible depression during their pregnancy and knowing
Speaker 1: that they had that the first time around, preparing themselves
Speaker 1: the second time around with the best you know that
Speaker 1: they can get for therapists and psychiatrists and whatever coping
Speaker 1: mechanisms you have to to to do it differently. Also,
Speaker 1: I have to say my first and second pregnancies were
Speaker 1: completely different, so you you really don't know absolutely if
Speaker 1: you're pregnant with like a boy or a girl. Like
Speaker 1: every single pregnality is very different. Like I felt so
Speaker 1: different this this one was, like I wasn't sick a
Speaker 1: day with Albie. I've never been so sick in my
Speaker 1: life with my daughter. Like it was a very different experience.
Speaker 1: And that's just physical. But but you will prepare yourself, um,
Speaker 1: and maybe you should get pregnant tomorrow so you don't
Speaker 1: have to go seriously it's like get seriously, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to bring up. I was
Speaker 1: listening and you can tell me if you don't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable talking about it. But I was listening back to
Speaker 1: our conversation UM a year ago, and you had shared
Speaker 1: something that you were so excited about finding out when
Speaker 1: you were pregnant with Atlas. But it was a little
Speaker 1: bit dampened because it was not the first time you
Speaker 1: had gotten pregnant. I don't know if that's out there
Speaker 1: or not, but that you had a miscarriage to me too,
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I was out of my mind
Speaker 1: when we last spoke and didn't extrapolate on that bit.
Speaker 1: But so you had a miscarriage before Atlas does Were
Speaker 1: you super far along? I was fifteen weeks Um. Everything
Speaker 1: has been put in context. I've had, unfortunately friends of
Speaker 1: mine who have lost way further along, and I think
Speaker 1: at any point, any point, it is going to be
Speaker 1: extremely hard. Um. But I just like my heart goes
Speaker 1: out so much because I understand how that feels. And yeah,
Speaker 1: when I found out with Atlas, it was a little
Speaker 1: damp in. Like I said, I think we talked about
Speaker 1: last time, like when I told Matt that I was pregnant.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, so I'm pregnant, Like it wasn't
Speaker 1: as big of a surprise as it was the first
Speaker 1: time around when I surprised him and did this whole
Speaker 1: thing and filmed it. Because it's I'm nervous and I
Speaker 1: still will be that way. If I find out tomorrow
Speaker 1: that I'm pregnant. I'm going to be nervous the whole
Speaker 1: way through until after and for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: That's what I And that has been something that I've
Speaker 1: told all my friends who don't have children, and I say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, the ones that are in relationships that are like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're thinking about like cool. I just want you to
Speaker 1: enjoy this time right now where you only worry about
Speaker 1: each other and yourself, like but most of yourself, because
Speaker 1: you will never understand the worry. You will never be
Speaker 1: able to go on vacation and turn off your phone
Speaker 1: completely and like just shut off the world. You will
Speaker 1: never be able to do that again because your mind
Speaker 1: will always be wondering like is she okay? Is he okay?
Speaker 1: You know it will always be there. So just like
Speaker 1: that freedom that you have right now, enjoy that forever,
Speaker 1: because the day you find out you are pregnant and
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life you will all be
Speaker 1: worried about their health and their happy and all of that,
Speaker 1: you know, And so I think for me, I think
Speaker 1: from that experience, I'm I'm just very cautious for the
Speaker 1: whole thing, and I will be, if you know, I'm
Speaker 1: fortunate to have to get pregnant again. So I feel
Speaker 1: the same way. I'm glad we've talked about that. That is,
Speaker 1: it was so awful to go through, and also just
Speaker 1: I'm glad you talked about it because you have such
Speaker 1: reach to so many people and listeners and miscarriages. You know,
Speaker 1: the numbers are one in four pregnancies or miscarriages, and
Speaker 1: women really talk about it and what you know, what
Speaker 1: it goes through mentally, what you go through mentally and
Speaker 1: physically to your body, your hormones, and oh the loss.
Speaker 1: It was so brutal, brutal, and I think my miscarriage
Speaker 1: was like eleven and a half weeks. But I was
Speaker 1: did you have to get a d n C. Yes, yeah, same, same, same,
Speaker 1: which for anyone listening, it's a surgical procedure. It's like
Speaker 1: you're too far along, um, you know where it would
Speaker 1: happen on its own. You know, someone who might miscarriage
Speaker 1: it like seven or eight weeks. You know, it might
Speaker 1: be like a very painful heavery period. But like when
Speaker 1: you get to a certain point, you have to do
Speaker 1: it surgically, which is like I remember having the surgery
Speaker 1: and then that night I was like, I'm having so
Speaker 1: much fucking tequila and sushi, Like I can't like just
Speaker 1: all the things. Totally, totally. My last question, can we
Speaker 1: just take a second and talk about pregnancy melasma. I
Speaker 1: just saw that you had that too. I have it.
Speaker 1: I never again talk about different pregnancies and different reactions.
Speaker 1: Never got melasma at all with Albie. I was completely
Speaker 1: glowing vera. I I have my beautiful grandmother. I can't
Speaker 1: see it right now, by the way, so I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's your camera. Let me get close. There's
Speaker 1: a dark spot that's like Granny Pat, I love you.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, my granny pad has this like it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I have to go back to shoot in March and
Speaker 1: I just texted the makeup artist and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of concealer you have, but
Speaker 1: I have a different face than I had a year
Speaker 1: ago when we were shooting, I have dark spots that
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't get taken off. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I can't see any on you either.
Speaker 1: Won the zoom is working, wonders um. You know. I
Speaker 1: see Shawnnie Darden and she has recommended some things. There's
Speaker 1: obviously I'm sure like these treatments and lads, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, yes, makeup will cover it. I
Speaker 1: haven't found anything that I'm like, oh, this is incredible,
Speaker 1: this completely works. I'm just continuing with her retina and
Speaker 1: all of that. I do think though it got better
Speaker 1: for me at least from right after I had our
Speaker 1: two now. So I'm sun screening it up every single day.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's raining in gray outside. There's sun.
Speaker 1: So much sunscreen on my face every single day now. See,
Speaker 1: I have really been bad about the sunscreen because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm in everything even no no, if you I'm sitting
Speaker 1: in front of a window right now, the UV whatever
Speaker 1: is coming through Katie every single day sunscreen. I don't
Speaker 1: care a dark We needed to hang out, like you're
Speaker 1: going to save my face because I haven't done ships
Speaker 1: fallen off the wagon of self care. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: like and I'll wake up, you put on sunscreen, you
Speaker 1: massage your face, okay, like a little lymph. It's literally
Speaker 1: a three minute process. We need to talk again. Yes,
Speaker 1: next season when you I'm going to put money on
Speaker 1: you will have a second child. By then, I'm going
Speaker 1: to put money on it. I'll probably put money on
Speaker 1: it too, like I'm gonna put money on that you
Speaker 1: have a second child. And then we need to talk
Speaker 1: about and connect on sibling rival later listening to potty trading. Also,
Speaker 1: one plus one does not equal to one plus one
Speaker 1: equals eleven. Let me tell you that right now. There
Speaker 1: we go. That's good. I've never heard that before. And
Speaker 1: that's incredible. I don't know how anyone has more than
Speaker 1: two right now. I have a three and a five
Speaker 1: year old, very active boy and a eleven and a
Speaker 1: half week old daughter. And it is six thirty am
Speaker 1: when she's hanging off my tit and he's screaming at
Speaker 1: me and bouncing balls off her head and throwing shit
Speaker 1: at her. It's unfucking real. It's unreal. And and I
Speaker 1: I'm so excited because we're going to talk again, and
Speaker 1: you're going to connect with me on this, You'll still
Speaker 1: be unflappable, because that is the shame. Mitchell. We all
Speaker 1: know and love I We'll see, we'll see checking with
Speaker 1: you when I have to. I heard one to two
Speaker 1: is crazy. Two to three is like, yeah, I've heard
Speaker 1: that too. It's hard, but it's also magical. They do.
Speaker 1: They're connected, they're speaking a language to each other. That's
Speaker 1: really um Shane Mitchell, you are a vision. Because we've
Speaker 1: booke ended the beginning of quarantine? Can this be the end?
Speaker 1: Like like like also like can I just have another
Speaker 1: kid before completely opene? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hello, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we'll do. It's like you'll get pregnant and
Speaker 1: it's like we'll just open it up a little bit
Speaker 1: where it's like you can do It's it'll be like
Speaker 1: our nice, loving and gentle re entrance into society. But
Speaker 1: we're still ways away from like full blown dancing in
Speaker 1: a club, you know, at an event, at an event,
Speaker 1: it's like we're not doing that. We're not doing that.
Speaker 1: And then hopefully when this world does open up, then
Speaker 1: kids can play and we can have a coffee day
Speaker 1: and that would be in real life, and our four
Speaker 1: children will be on a playground. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: love it. I love you. It's so great talking with you, Shay.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. Atlas is so beautiful. Congratulations
Speaker 1: on all of your businesses and success. Thank you and
Speaker 1: congrats to you too, you Mama, Thank you, you guys.
Speaker 1: We did it. That's it, that's it. That's the whole
Speaker 1: season three of Katie's Crib. I cannot thank you enough
Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart for being my rock.
Speaker 1: Honestly during this whole year, my community, during this incredibly
Speaker 1: isolating time, Katie's Crib was truly a safe space and
Speaker 1: I thank you for that. And I wanted to let
Speaker 1: you know that season four will becoming at you in
Speaker 1: the spring. So we're not letting our foot off the
Speaker 1: gas here. We got work to do, We got things
Speaker 1: to learn, things to unlearn, things to figure out, laughs
Speaker 1: to be had, tears to be shed, you name it.
Speaker 1: So email me guests that you want to hear from,
Speaker 1: topics you want me to talk about at Katie's Crib
Speaker 1: at Shonda land dot com. Thank you guys so much again.
Speaker 1: I love you, Stay safe, all my love at my
Speaker 1: best and I can't wait for season four. Oh and
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