WEBVTT - Shay Mitchell: A Year In Quarantine (Pt. 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda land Audio

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<v Speaker 1>in partnership with I Heart Radio. Hi everybody, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the second episode of the season finale of

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<v Speaker 1>Katie's Crib season three. If you haven't already, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you've listened to episode one of this two for so

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<v Speaker 1>you can hear from Shay Mitchell in March. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we decided we had to do an addendum to that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to hear how Shay Mitchell is doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to know during this time that has been

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<v Speaker 1>so insane for everybody, and especially for mothers who have newborns, babies,

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<v Speaker 1>toddler's children, out of school, this whole situation we find ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I gotta talk to Shane Mitchell. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to hear about what this past year has been

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<v Speaker 1>like for her. And so here you have it, the

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<v Speaker 1>second episode of the two part finale of Katie's Group

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<v Speaker 1>season three, Shane Mitchell, the one and only. Enjoy it, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for listening. Guys. This is uh like

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<v Speaker 1>being in a time capsule. Shane Mitchell just exploded her

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<v Speaker 1>hands off her temples because the last time we saw

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<v Speaker 1>each other it was literally the day before shutdown, the

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<v Speaker 1>day before shutdown, and I remember you've been telling like

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<v Speaker 1>my team, You're like, okay, and I know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>this thing starting, so if you don't feel say, we

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<v Speaker 1>have so much hand sanitizer. And I was like we

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<v Speaker 1>no one knew what it was, what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all like wait, what, Like, I just remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like so much hand sanitized and I'm still doing that

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<v Speaker 1>to this day. So it's been a full year of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild a full year we're coming upon. Since I

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<v Speaker 1>saw you face to face, you may be the last

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<v Speaker 1>person I saw unmasked that is outside of my pot

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<v Speaker 1>or my family. We felt the major impulse to hug,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were like, let's shake elbows or feet because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what this is. And here we are

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<v Speaker 1>one year later. There's toilet paper back on the shelves

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<v Speaker 1>in the grocery store, though, because the week we left

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<v Speaker 1>saw each other there was no toilet paper. Everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>running to this grocery store cleaning out all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were like, let's talk about motherhood. Yeah, Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a five month old Atlas at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, yes, And I didn't know was literally

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes pregnant with my daughter via Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so crazy and congratulations you have two kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a journey. It's been a journey, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got pregnant. I think March eighth and shutdown was marked thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just talked about that first set because I

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<v Speaker 1>actually feel extreme jealousy for all women who have been

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant courts. Now, there's some people that I know are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like, what do you mean we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to go out, And that's a fair point too,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, I should have actually should have done

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<v Speaker 1>this last March. I'm like, just to have been home,

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<v Speaker 1>not to have been worried about be now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, it's been amazing. I've worned sweatpants for a year,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've literally made a human birth to human and back.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in sweatpants the entire time. I've seen nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I've nested, like, I mean, when this is over,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never nesting again. I have to say, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>over it. But now, wait, are you are you thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about ever having a second? Do we know? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, damn, I wish it was last March, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just because it does feel like this time

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<v Speaker 1>has been so nice, like to be spending it with Atlas,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that has been the silver lining of this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, because without it being like this, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been traveling once a month, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows how many of those little moments I would

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<v Speaker 1>have missed looking back on it now, So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>completely different, you know, experience, and I have than my

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<v Speaker 1>other friends without children. I get that, like I completely

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<v Speaker 1>different experience. Being able to wake up to her changing

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<v Speaker 1>every single day and seeing these changes has has been incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love that is a silver lifed day. And

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<v Speaker 1>also when we last spoke a year ago, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can say still to this day, you are still one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most unflappable moms I've ever spoken to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question to you is that I've been dying

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<v Speaker 1>to ask in this year of quarantine, have you stayed

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<v Speaker 1>that way? Are you chill is fuck still? If you are,

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<v Speaker 1>please send it my way, because I'm not tell me

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<v Speaker 1>how parenting at List during this past year has changed

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<v Speaker 1>that or made it stronger. I can only speak from

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<v Speaker 1>my experience with this one child that I have and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, are we following all the rules and she

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<v Speaker 1>sleep trained perfectly? No? Absolutely not. Does she wake up

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<v Speaker 1>at two when we bring into our bed? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 1>am I okay with it? Yeah, because I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 1>enough to go to set at seven am where I

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<v Speaker 1>need a full night sleep. But by the way, when

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<v Speaker 1>I bring her in, she sleeps until seven thirty, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a peaceful thing and I love waking up

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<v Speaker 1>next to her. So it's like that's changed. So is

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<v Speaker 1>my sleep routine exactly how I would have imagined to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's not structured. She goes to bed at seven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty every night, but the wake up and ending up

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<v Speaker 1>in our bed is a new thing. And we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, whatever, it's quarantine or whatever this is. Now

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<v Speaker 1>at this point she's not hit the two stage. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we need to check back in after she's like two,

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<v Speaker 1>becase my runner. You can be my runner of like

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<v Speaker 1>the next four or five seasons. We'll just always check in,

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<v Speaker 1>Just always check in, because I know the teenagers are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a whole other experience, But for right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different experience than what I'm sure I may

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<v Speaker 1>have had if we were traveling with her on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I may have been like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>hey like her on the plane and then at the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel she was jet like. But I haven't had that

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<v Speaker 1>experience to compare it to. So for her being at home, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she's still we're still like, I'm not potty

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<v Speaker 1>training yet. We haven't hit any of those milestones. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's good. It's more of the same. I

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<v Speaker 1>have help here, you know, um to do this and

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<v Speaker 1>to be working without completely again another experience. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea how I would handle it. The milestones she

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<v Speaker 1>has hit though, in this quarantine she I'm assuming she

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<v Speaker 1>took her first steps, she started walking running around. Has

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<v Speaker 1>that been emotional for you that you've been kind of

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<v Speaker 1>alone with all these things? The thing that I missed

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<v Speaker 1>the most is not having my family and Matt's family

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<v Speaker 1>able to see her and you know, in real life,

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<v Speaker 1>because FaceTime a whole lot of that. Like she gets

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<v Speaker 1>it now, she sees that's still for us. The only

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<v Speaker 1>screen time that we've really had is when she uses

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<v Speaker 1>FaceTime to see my parents. So she's always like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every I don't know what she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>think when she starts seeing TV, she'll think that people

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<v Speaker 1>can wave back to her. But right now, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>she's seen my family that way. So that's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, oh, I wish my grandma could just

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<v Speaker 1>be seeing her right now. That has been the hardest part,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, yeah, her milestones are crazy. Every single night,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and I are going to bed and we're literally

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at the phone from those days photos and

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<v Speaker 1>videos and we do that too. You know, it's sick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you put them down to thirty and then

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<v Speaker 1>you spend your night looking at photos of them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the most disgusting. I'm like excited to put her to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I'm also excited to wake her up. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't go away. I still do that with my

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<v Speaker 1>three year old. I'm like, please go to sleep, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're a toddler. You're so hard right now, And he

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<v Speaker 1>goes down, and then what am I doing. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>bed scrolling through the photos of the day and his

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<v Speaker 1>videos like it's I know, it's insane, it's insane, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have an emotional time like everyone now and

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<v Speaker 1>again I'll look and I'll be like, but she's so

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<v Speaker 1>big now. And Matt's like, okay, but bait, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we want. I'm like, I know, but like look

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<v Speaker 1>at her bed then, you know, did I really soak

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<v Speaker 1>that in? And of course I did. I was there

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<v Speaker 1>every moment for it. But it's just it's it's it's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh wow, I get it now, Mom and Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I get it. You know, has anything for

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<v Speaker 1>the motherhood journey popped up for you that's been like

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<v Speaker 1>super unexpected. Having a child has definitely made me realize

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<v Speaker 1>just time is flying. Um, you know, it's tough, just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like I'm trying to figure out ways to

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<v Speaker 1>help her development while being at home. Fortunately for us,

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<v Speaker 1>we went to Vancouver for a few months. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that amazing. We're going back. It's it's different. It's different

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<v Speaker 1>over there. I think they have less cases and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just a different vo They have

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<v Speaker 1>like parks open, there's like there's there's some there's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more normals. I mean, all of my friends who

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<v Speaker 1>are shooting in Vancouver, I like, look at there because

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<v Speaker 1>you have to quarantine there, right, you know, like so

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<v Speaker 1>things are working over there. So I do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that is something that I'm going to be doing with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to take her back because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>enroll her in some classes so she can see other kids.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, that's the only thing that has been really

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<v Speaker 1>weird that I would never have thought i'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with. Pre COVID is really really hard. Yeah. The

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<v Speaker 1>other thing you've been doing in quarantine is you've been

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<v Speaker 1>working out a ton Like what what? What inspired that?

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<v Speaker 1>Just being stuck at home and feeling the need to

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<v Speaker 1>move or I feel like yeah, lash after I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Vanity Fair that was the last big event that

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<v Speaker 1>I went to. After that, I was like, Okay, we're here, Like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a new mom. I feel like I should be

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<v Speaker 1>back at work. What am I doing? A little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a struggle of course, Like I talked about, the

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<v Speaker 1>silver lining of this was being able to spend all

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<v Speaker 1>this time with that list, But it was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of changes really quickly. For me. It was now being

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<v Speaker 1>a stay at home mom, working from home and not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to travel go to my job. Feel like

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<v Speaker 1>any part of my old life was there. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it was the biggest struggle. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>I was just coming into this like without child, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was coming into this as like a new mom

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<v Speaker 1>and like trying to figure out my new place in

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<v Speaker 1>this world. While the world was really hard. Whoa, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like your whole identity shifted, whole identity, but the whole

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<v Speaker 1>world changed too, so it's like, what the hell? Who

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<v Speaker 1>are we? And I right? And and you know it

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<v Speaker 1>forced me to in it to a position that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't used to before, which was a stay at home mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't prepared for that. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about that last time too, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>friends that are incredible, and that in itself, as we

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<v Speaker 1>both know, is a full time job. I wasn't ready

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<v Speaker 1>for that job, hardest job in the world. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think about it like that. I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>will have that list, I have an incredible team, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to travel, feel like myself again, come back

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<v Speaker 1>be a mom. And that was taken it out. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, not feel bad for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, oh my gosh, I need to figure this out.

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<v Speaker 1>And from that I was like, Okay, I'll figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out while sitting here, and you know, really enjoying myself

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, maybe not the best food, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having too much wine, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning and all of that. And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even moving. And I realized how much I

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<v Speaker 1>used to just move. Whether it was going to the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store. I cut that out because I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>my groceries delivered. So it was like all of that

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<v Speaker 1>movement had stopped. And I've always said my entire life,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been active since I was a child. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>talked about working out for my mental health. That is

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<v Speaker 1>my therapy. And when I stopped doing that because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have it. I didn't have a gym in my

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<v Speaker 1>house at that time, I was like, Okay, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go on walks because paparazzi out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like getting photographed in my sweatpants and stained

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<v Speaker 1>shirt today. So it was like all of that just

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<v Speaker 1>took a toll. And I felt like ship last year

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<v Speaker 1>Atlas was the best part of that. But mentally for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't feel myself, like all of

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<v Speaker 1>old Shay was gone. And so for me, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to make a change. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go into one different and January one I remember, like

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<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve, I went Ham, I ordered everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing that for the last six months. But

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<v Speaker 1>like Ham and jan first, I'm like, no, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be healthier. I need to be what I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing before this because I have to be strong and

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<v Speaker 1>be here for Atlas. It's not just about me anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be the best version. I want her

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<v Speaker 1>to see me eating salads and not ordering all of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff every single day. Like trust me, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>big fan of junk food, but in moderation, not every

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<v Speaker 1>single day is my clutch. And so after I made

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<v Speaker 1>that change, like now I'm like, I feel so freaking strong.

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<v Speaker 1>I can pick her up my arms at any time,

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<v Speaker 1>I can walk upstairs. I'm not out of breath. Like

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm like cool, I feel like me And now

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<v Speaker 1>I can be the best mom to you, the best

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<v Speaker 1>partner to Matt, the best everything to everybody else because

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<v Speaker 1>now I feel like I'm at my strongest again, And

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<v Speaker 1>that was super important. And also you set up the boundary,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you set up the boundary of like you

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<v Speaker 1>know this is my time, you know, like I take

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<v Speaker 1>this hour every day or whatever it is that you

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<v Speaker 1>do three days is where you're like, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>do this for mental physical health. I used to think

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<v Speaker 1>about working out, you know, it's such a vanity what

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<v Speaker 1>I look like, and now it's so much like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to sap it here. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to be here for like a really long time so

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<v Speaker 1>I can see your life and if that means that

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<v Speaker 1>my heart is like able to do cardio so that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get sick, you know, like I actually it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds dark, but like that's how I think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I just really need to be healthy so

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<v Speaker 1>I can like watch your life as long as I

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<v Speaker 1>can and look back and be like I did what

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<v Speaker 1>I could to be here. Man like absolutely absolutely. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a you know, it's a weird world. Last night

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little bit of a uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an ups and downs because I did my post. I

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<v Speaker 1>posted this photo showing as a new mom, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>super strong. So many people were like, wait, you should

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<v Speaker 1>have a trigger warning with that. I'm like, I understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't. I actually don't understand. And social

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<v Speaker 1>media I've always been able to not pay attention to,

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<v Speaker 1>but that really bothered me. I don't know how that

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<v Speaker 1>can affect anybody in a negative way because I busted

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<v Speaker 1>my ass and I have proved a show for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I worked out, I ate healthy. That is how

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<v Speaker 1>I feel strong now. It's not about a diet t

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about any of that stuff. I now feel

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<v Speaker 1>like my old self and that needs to be celebrated,

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<v Speaker 1>especially as a new mom. I couldn't. I could not

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you more. Yeah, Dolphace hasn't gone back is

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<v Speaker 1>on hamew So is this like the least like for you?

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<v Speaker 1>This is like being on set. It's slowed down for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that feel good to you? Do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you hate? Like? Are you like itching to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to work? I'm not. I'm not itching because as I've been,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, keeping myself busy with like social media content,

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<v Speaker 1>still the YouTube, and then I have I launched Onto

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<v Speaker 1>which is ready to drink to quill a brand in

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<v Speaker 1>June of last year. So I've been busy and bass

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<v Speaker 1>that have allowed me to stay home, which is nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember we were talking. I was launching the

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<v Speaker 1>diaper bags and it's out, We're sold out, we're getting restocked.

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<v Speaker 1>So every day I'm replying to comments with my friends

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<v Speaker 1>are like when's the backpack back? And that has been

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun? Like it's that has been so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Bas is like my first baby, thank you um bass

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<v Speaker 1>was like my first you know baby, and and my

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<v Speaker 1>creative you know um energy is being put somewhere, So

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good about that. To physically be on set,

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<v Speaker 1>do I miss that ish But to me, to be

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<v Speaker 1>quite honest with you, for me to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>being on set and being away from our physically, because

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<v Speaker 1>I can do so much from home, it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a great project, like I have to want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I'm not just doing you know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel that strong about I'm not going to keep myself

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<v Speaker 1>away from over twelve however many hours on set now,

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a different perspective with that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the one thing I let my whole team know,

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<v Speaker 1>like unless it's a project, I feel really passionate about

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<v Speaker 1>not itching, you know. That's the biggest shift I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like with motherhood is definitely like everything comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>like a choice where this takes me away from my family,

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<v Speaker 1>my children, So it either has to be worth it

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<v Speaker 1>financially or artistically. Absolutely, or you know something that you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be a real reason. So this year,

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<v Speaker 1>we have truly been forced to sit with ourselves and

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<v Speaker 1>we've we're reassessing a lot of things in our personal

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<v Speaker 1>lives and in our country. How have you been reflecting

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<v Speaker 1>and how has this time shaped you? Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>just everything Like what you just said, I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because how much has happened in this past year. There's

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<v Speaker 1>two sides to it. On one side, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel you know, the positive side, I'm like, we

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<v Speaker 1>are making movement. I want to say that we are

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<v Speaker 1>heading in the right direction, you know, and that's and

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<v Speaker 1>that's exciting, that's positive. And then on the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my gosh, we've been in this safe

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<v Speaker 1>little bubble here and now I'm like freaked out. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>freaked out when this is over, Like then she's out

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<v Speaker 1>there and then she's in this world, and this world

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<v Speaker 1>is all so crazy. While we're moving, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say in a better direction, there's also so much happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like I teeter tot her between like feeling

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<v Speaker 1>safe in this moment right now because she's at home

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<v Speaker 1>and I have her here and she's not in school

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<v Speaker 1>yet and all of that to then also be like,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want you to see the world. So this

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<v Speaker 1>year is really kind of tugged with my emotions of

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<v Speaker 1>like wanting it to be over and wanting to push

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<v Speaker 1>her out there, but then also wanting to keep her

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<v Speaker 1>safe in this little bubble that we've had. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think if I feel like we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to feel that way our whole lives. I'm in the

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<v Speaker 1>same I didn't put out THEA in pre school because

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<v Speaker 1>I was pregnant and then I had a newborn and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, like this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have a three and a half year old

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<v Speaker 1>toddler who doesn't see friends, and he writes socialization and

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to learn how to share and like get

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<v Speaker 1>out there. But I'm keeping him in this protected bubble

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<v Speaker 1>because I have a twelve week old and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a But I think we'll feel that we

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<v Speaker 1>have of wanting to keep them safe but then also

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<v Speaker 1>wanting them to expand and have life experiences and learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to pick themselves up when they fall down. What

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<v Speaker 1>advice or heads up would you have given to Shay

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell in March of know right, oh, man, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>would we have told ourselves then, I don't know, go

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<v Speaker 1>out to a party, like go on a trip right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like where there was less cases like

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<v Speaker 1>just go on a trip and then come back, get

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<v Speaker 1>it out of I mean, I don't know what we

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<v Speaker 1>could have said to ourselves back then that would have

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<v Speaker 1>prepared us for to have a whole I know I

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<v Speaker 1>would have said to myself, get pregnant right out, trying

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<v Speaker 1>it right now, That's what I would have said to myself. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I saying now is the perfect time, Shay like,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was hard for me. It was hard to

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<v Speaker 1>be pregnant, and as it is for so for everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. But like you took to go to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to be out, and then we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the paparazzi photos, them getting you at your worst when

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<v Speaker 1>you already don't feel great, you feel vulnerable. That was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So had I could have just you know, not have

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<v Speaker 1>had that. I don't know. I have so many mixed

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<v Speaker 1>of feelings about how I felt and and and some

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<v Speaker 1>of it is like blurry to me now, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's obviously, what it does so that we

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<v Speaker 1>get pregnant again completely wipes your memory. Because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll watch some videos and I will say, for the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of it, I was so blessed and like liked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it. But the parts that I didn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh man, wow, it's like I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna be honest and say it, like I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted sibling so bad, but I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>through pregnancy again. And and I wasn't that be mean

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<v Speaker 1>goddess that absolutely loved it. I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>it again, um, because it is. It took a oh

0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean mentally, you know, and that's what we said,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had pre partum, not post pre and and

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.239
<v Speaker 1>that was something that I didn't know back then. I

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<v Speaker 1>only heard postpartum, so I was preparing myself for that.

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.199
<v Speaker 1>But then when I was like upset and not feeling

0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.320
<v Speaker 1>my best jury and I was like, wait, what's this

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>nobody talking about? I should be so happy right now.

0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm nervous to go back into it for that again. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if I'm home and I can be

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable and I don't have to like I don't put

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure on myself for being on set for doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be I'll be more at ease. And also

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.119
<v Speaker 1>you can have the tools like set up, Like I

0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 1>have friends who had I think it's perinatal depression, which

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<v Speaker 1>I really need to do an episode on, but people

0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 1>who have really horrible depression during their pregnancy and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that they had that the first time around, preparing themselves

0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.879
<v Speaker 1>the second time around with the best you know that

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<v Speaker 1>they can get for therapists and psychiatrists and whatever coping

0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:04.399
<v Speaker 1>mechanisms you have to to to do it differently. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say my first and second pregnancies were

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<v Speaker 1>completely different, so you you really don't know absolutely if

0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you're pregnant with like a boy or a girl. Like

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:18.720
<v Speaker 1>every single pregnality is very different. Like I felt so

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.320
<v Speaker 1>different this this one was, like I wasn't sick a

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 1>day with Albie. I've never been so sick in my

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:27.159
<v Speaker 1>life with my daughter. Like it was a very different experience.

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's just physical. But but you will prepare yourself, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you should get pregnant tomorrow so you don't

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:40.720
<v Speaker 1>have to go seriously it's like get seriously, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I wanted to bring up. I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening and you can tell me if you don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable talking about it. But I was listening back to

0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 1>our conversation UM a year ago, and you had shared

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<v Speaker 1>something that you were so excited about finding out when

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you were pregnant with Atlas. But it was a little

0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:08.600
<v Speaker 1>bit dampened because it was not the first time you

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten pregnant. I don't know if that's out there

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but that you had a miscarriage to me too,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, I was out of my mind

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<v Speaker 1>when we last spoke and didn't extrapolate on that bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you had a miscarriage before Atlas does Were

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<v Speaker 1>you super far along? I was fifteen weeks Um. Everything

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 1>has been put in context. I've had, unfortunately friends of

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 1>mine who have lost way further along, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>at any point, any point, it is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>extremely hard. Um. But I just like my heart goes

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>out so much because I understand how that feels. And yeah,

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.640
<v Speaker 1>when I found out with Atlas, it was a little

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>damp in. Like I said, I think we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>last time, like when I told Matt that I was pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, so I'm pregnant, Like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as big of a surprise as it was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time around when I surprised him and did this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing and filmed it. Because it's I'm nervous and I

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<v Speaker 1>still will be that way. If I find out tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm pregnant. I'm going to be nervous the whole

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<v Speaker 1>way through until after and for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I And that has been something that I've

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<v Speaker 1>told all my friends who don't have children, and I say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the ones that are in relationships that are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking about like cool. I just want you to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy this time right now where you only worry about

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<v Speaker 1>each other and yourself, like but most of yourself, because

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<v Speaker 1>you will never understand the worry. You will never be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go on vacation and turn off your phone

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<v Speaker 1>completely and like just shut off the world. You will

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<v Speaker 1>never be able to do that again because your mind

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>will always be wondering like is she okay? Is he okay?

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<v Speaker 1>You know it will always be there. So just like

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<v Speaker 1>that freedom that you have right now, enjoy that forever,

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<v Speaker 1>because the day you find out you are pregnant and

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life you will all be

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<v Speaker 1>worried about their health and their happy and all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And so I think for me, I think

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<v Speaker 1>from that experience, I'm I'm just very cautious for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, and I will be, if you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate to have to get pregnant again. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>the same way. I'm glad we've talked about that. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so awful to go through, and also just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you talked about it because you have such

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<v Speaker 1>reach to so many people and listeners and miscarriages. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers are one in four pregnancies or miscarriages, and

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<v Speaker 1>women really talk about it and what you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>it goes through mentally, what you go through mentally and

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<v Speaker 1>physically to your body, your hormones, and oh the loss.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so brutal, brutal, and I think my miscarriage

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<v Speaker 1>was like eleven and a half weeks. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>did you have to get a d n C. Yes, yeah, same, same, same,

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 1>which for anyone listening, it's a surgical procedure. It's like

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you're too far along, um, you know where it would

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<v Speaker 1>happen on its own. You know, someone who might miscarriage

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it like seven or eight weeks. You know, it might

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<v Speaker 1>be like a very painful heavery period. But like when

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>you get to a certain point, you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>it surgically, which is like I remember having the surgery

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and then that night I was like, I'm having so

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<v Speaker 1>much fucking tequila and sushi, Like I can't like just

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<v Speaker 1>all the things. Totally, totally. My last question, can we

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>just take a second and talk about pregnancy melasma. I

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>just saw that you had that too. I have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never again talk about different pregnancies and different reactions.

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Never got melasma at all with Albie. I was completely

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>glowing vera. I I have my beautiful grandmother. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>see it right now, by the way, so I don't

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>know if it's your camera. Let me get close. There's

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a dark spot that's like Granny Pat, I love you.

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:58.439
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening, my granny pad has this like it's unbelievable.

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I have to go back to shoot in March and

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<v Speaker 1>I just texted the makeup artist and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what kind of concealer you have, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have a different face than I had a year

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>ago when we were shooting, I have dark spots that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't get taken off. I don't I

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but I can't see any on you either.

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Won the zoom is working, wonders um. You know. I

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>see Shawnnie Darden and she has recommended some things. There's

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm sure like these treatments and lads, at the

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, yes, makeup will cover it. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't found anything that I'm like, oh, this is incredible,

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 1>this completely works. I'm just continuing with her retina and

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>all of that. I do think though it got better

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>for me at least from right after I had our

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>two now. So I'm sun screening it up every single day.

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if it's raining in gray outside. There's sun.

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>So much sunscreen on my face every single day now. See,

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I have really been bad about the sunscreen because I'm like,

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm in everything even no no, if you I'm sitting

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>in front of a window right now, the UV whatever

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 1>is coming through Katie every single day sunscreen. I don't

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>care a dark We needed to hang out, like you're

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>going to save my face because I haven't done ships

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>fallen off the wagon of self care. Let me tell you,

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>like and I'll wake up, you put on sunscreen, you

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>massage your face, okay, like a little lymph. It's literally

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>a three minute process. We need to talk again. Yes,

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>next season when you I'm going to put money on

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>you will have a second child. By then, I'm going

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>to put money on it. I'll probably put money on

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>it too, like I'm gonna put money on that you

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>have a second child. And then we need to talk

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>about and connect on sibling rival later listening to potty trading. Also,

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>one plus one does not equal to one plus one

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>equals eleven. Let me tell you that right now. There

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>we go. That's good. I've never heard that before. And

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that's incredible. I don't know how anyone has more than

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>two right now. I have a three and a five

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 1>year old, very active boy and a eleven and a

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>half week old daughter. And it is six thirty am

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>when she's hanging off my tit and he's screaming at

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 1>me and bouncing balls off her head and throwing shit

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>at her. It's unfucking real. It's unreal. And and I

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited because we're going to talk again, and

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you're going to connect with me on this, You'll still

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>be unflappable, because that is the shame. Mitchell. We all

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>know and love I We'll see, we'll see checking with

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you when I have to. I heard one to two

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>is crazy. Two to three is like, yeah, I've heard

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that too. It's hard, but it's also magical. They do.

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>They're connected, they're speaking a language to each other. That's

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>really um Shane Mitchell, you are a vision. Because we've

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>booke ended the beginning of quarantine? Can this be the end?

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Like like like also like can I just have another

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>kid before completely opene? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hello, Yeah,

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that's what we'll do. It's like you'll get pregnant and

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like we'll just open it up a little bit

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>where it's like you can do It's it'll be like

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>our nice, loving and gentle re entrance into society. But

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we're still ways away from like full blown dancing in

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a club, you know, at an event, at an event,

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like we're not doing that. We're not doing that.

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>And then hopefully when this world does open up, then

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>kids can play and we can have a coffee day

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and that would be in real life, and our four

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>children will be on a playground. Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. I love you. It's so great talking with you, Shay.

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy for you. Atlas is so beautiful. Congratulations

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>on all of your businesses and success. Thank you and

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>congrats to you too, you Mama, Thank you, you guys.

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>We did it. That's it, that's it. That's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>season three of Katie's Crib. I cannot thank you enough

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<v Speaker 1>from the bottom of my heart for being my rock.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Honestly during this whole year, my community, during this incredibly

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>isolating time, Katie's Crib was truly a safe space and

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you for that. And I wanted to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know that season four will becoming at you in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring. So we're not letting our foot off the

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<v Speaker 1>gas here. We got work to do, We got things

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, Stay safe, all my love at my

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