1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda land Audio 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: in partnership with I Heart Radio. Hi everybody, and welcome 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: back to the second episode of the season finale of 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Katie's Crib season three. If you haven't already, make sure 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: you've listened to episode one of this two for so 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: you can hear from Shay Mitchell in March. And then 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: we decided we had to do an addendum to that episode. 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: I had to hear how Shay Mitchell is doing now. 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to know during this time that has been 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: so insane for everybody, and especially for mothers who have newborns, babies, 11 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: toddler's children, out of school, this whole situation we find ourselves. 12 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta talk to Shane Mitchell. I 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: got to hear about what this past year has been 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: like for her. And so here you have it, the 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: second episode of the two part finale of Katie's Group 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: season three, Shane Mitchell, the one and only. Enjoy it, guys, 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. Guys. This is uh like 18 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: being in a time capsule. Shane Mitchell just exploded her 19 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: hands off her temples because the last time we saw 20 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: each other it was literally the day before shutdown, the 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: day before shutdown, and I remember you've been telling like 22 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: my team, You're like, okay, and I know that there's 23 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: this thing starting, so if you don't feel say, we 24 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: have so much hand sanitizer. And I was like we 25 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: no one knew what it was, what was going on. 26 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: We were all like wait, what, Like, I just remember, 27 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: like so much hand sanitized and I'm still doing that 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: to this day. So it's been a full year of that. 29 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: It's wild a full year we're coming upon. Since I 30 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: saw you face to face, you may be the last 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: person I saw unmasked that is outside of my pot 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: or my family. We felt the major impulse to hug, 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: but we were like, let's shake elbows or feet because 34 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: we don't know what this is. And here we are 35 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: one year later. There's toilet paper back on the shelves 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: in the grocery store, though, because the week we left 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: saw each other there was no toilet paper. Everyone was 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: running to this grocery store cleaning out all that stuff. 39 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: And we were like, let's talk about motherhood. Yeah, Also, 40 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: you had a five month old Atlas at the time. 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, And I didn't know was literally 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: two minutes pregnant with my daughter via Oh my gosh, 43 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: which is so crazy and congratulations you have two kids. Yeah, 44 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: it's been a journey. It's been a journey, and I 45 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: got pregnant. I think March eighth and shutdown was marked thirteen. 46 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: So we just talked about that first set because I 47 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: actually feel extreme jealousy for all women who have been 48 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: pregnant courts. Now, there's some people that I know are 49 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: going to be like, what do you mean we haven't 50 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: been able to go out, And that's a fair point too, 51 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: But I'm like, I should have actually should have done 52 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: this last March. I'm like, just to have been home, 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: not to have been worried about be now you know, 54 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: you're like, it's been amazing. I've worned sweatpants for a year, 55 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: Like I've literally made a human birth to human and back. 56 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: I've been in sweatpants the entire time. I've seen nobody. 57 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: I know. I've nested, like, I mean, when this is over, 58 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm never nesting again. I have to say, I'm sure 59 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: over it. But now, wait, are you are you thinking 60 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: about ever having a second? Do we know? I mean, 61 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I wish it was last March, like 62 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, just because it does feel like this time 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: has been so nice, like to be spending it with Atlas, 64 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: and and that has been the silver lining of this 65 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: whole thing, because without it being like this, I would 66 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: have been traveling once a month, and and you know, 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: who knows how many of those little moments I would 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: have missed looking back on it now, So it's a 69 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: completely different, you know, experience, and I have than my 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: other friends without children. I get that, like I completely 71 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: different experience. Being able to wake up to her changing 72 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: every single day and seeing these changes has has been incredible. 73 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: So I love that is a silver lifed day. And 74 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: also when we last spoke a year ago, and I 75 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: can say still to this day, you are still one 76 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: of the most unflappable moms I've ever spoken to you. 77 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: So my question to you is that I've been dying 78 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: to ask in this year of quarantine, have you stayed 79 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: that way? Are you chill is fuck still? If you are, 80 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: please send it my way, because I'm not tell me 81 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: how parenting at List during this past year has changed 82 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: that or made it stronger. I can only speak from 83 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: my experience with this one child that I have and 84 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, are we following all the rules and she 85 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: sleep trained perfectly? No? Absolutely not. Does she wake up 86 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: at two when we bring into our bed? Yeah? And 87 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: am I okay with it? Yeah, because I'm not getting 88 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: enough to go to set at seven am where I 89 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: need a full night sleep. But by the way, when 90 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: I bring her in, she sleeps until seven thirty, So 91 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: it's like a peaceful thing and I love waking up 92 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: next to her. So it's like that's changed. So is 93 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: my sleep routine exactly how I would have imagined to be. 94 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Now that's not structured. She goes to bed at seven 95 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: thirty every night, but the wake up and ending up 96 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: in our bed is a new thing. And we're like, 97 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: all right, whatever, it's quarantine or whatever this is. Now 98 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: at this point she's not hit the two stage. I 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: think we need to check back in after she's like two, 100 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: becase my runner. You can be my runner of like 101 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: the next four or five seasons. We'll just always check in, 102 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Just always check in, because I know the teenagers are 103 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: going to be a whole other experience, But for right now, 104 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: it's a different experience than what I'm sure I may 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: have had if we were traveling with her on the road. 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: You know, I may have been like, oh my gosh, 107 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: hey like her on the plane and then at the 108 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: hotel she was jet like. But I haven't had that 109 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: experience to compare it to. So for her being at home, yeah, 110 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean she's still we're still like, I'm not potty 111 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: training yet. We haven't hit any of those milestones. So 112 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's good. It's more of the same. I 113 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: have help here, you know, um to do this and 114 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: to be working without completely again another experience. I have 115 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: no idea how I would handle it. The milestones she 116 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: has hit though, in this quarantine she I'm assuming she 117 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: took her first steps, she started walking running around. Has 118 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: that been emotional for you that you've been kind of 119 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: alone with all these things? The thing that I missed 120 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: the most is not having my family and Matt's family 121 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: able to see her and you know, in real life, 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: because FaceTime a whole lot of that. Like she gets 123 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: it now, she sees that's still for us. The only 124 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: screen time that we've really had is when she uses 125 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: FaceTime to see my parents. So she's always like, whoa, 126 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, every I don't know what she's going to 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: think when she starts seeing TV, she'll think that people 128 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: can wave back to her. But right now, it's like 129 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: she's seen my family that way. So that's the thing 130 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh, I wish my grandma could just 131 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: be seeing her right now. That has been the hardest part, 132 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, her milestones are crazy. Every single night, 133 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: Matt and I are going to bed and we're literally 134 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: just looking at the phone from those days photos and 135 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: videos and we do that too. You know, it's sick. 136 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: It's like you put them down to thirty and then 137 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: you spend your night looking at photos of them. It's 138 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: the most disgusting. I'm like excited to put her to bed, 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: but then I'm also excited to wake her up. Like 140 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't go away. I still do that with my 141 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: three year old. I'm like, please go to sleep, like 142 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: you're a toddler. You're so hard right now, And he 143 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: goes down, and then what am I doing. I'm in 144 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: bed scrolling through the photos of the day and his 145 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: videos like it's I know, it's insane, it's insane, but 146 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have an emotional time like everyone now and 147 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: again I'll look and I'll be like, but she's so 148 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: big now. And Matt's like, okay, but bait, like that's 149 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: what we want. I'm like, I know, but like look 150 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: at her bed then, you know, did I really soak 151 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: that in? And of course I did. I was there 152 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: every moment for it. But it's just it's it's it's wild. 153 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wow, I get it now, Mom and Dad, 154 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I get it. You know, has anything for 155 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: the motherhood journey popped up for you that's been like 156 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: super unexpected. Having a child has definitely made me realize 157 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: just time is flying. Um, you know, it's tough, just 158 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: because it's like I'm trying to figure out ways to 159 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: help her development while being at home. Fortunately for us, 160 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: we went to Vancouver for a few months. I think 161 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: that amazing. We're going back. It's it's different. It's different 162 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: over there. I think they have less cases and you know, 163 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just a different vo They have 164 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: like parks open, there's like there's there's some there's a 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: bit more normals. I mean, all of my friends who 166 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: are shooting in Vancouver, I like, look at there because 167 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: you have to quarantine there, right, you know, like so 168 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: things are working over there. So I do feel like 169 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: that is something that I'm going to be doing with her. 170 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I have to take her back because I want to 171 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: enroll her in some classes so she can see other kids. 172 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: It's like, that's the only thing that has been really 173 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: weird that I would never have thought i'd have to 174 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: deal with. Pre COVID is really really hard. Yeah. The 175 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: other thing you've been doing in quarantine is you've been 176 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: working out a ton Like what what? What inspired that? 177 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: Just being stuck at home and feeling the need to 178 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: move or I feel like yeah, lash after I feel 179 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: like Vanity Fair that was the last big event that 180 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: I went to. After that, I was like, Okay, we're here, Like, um, 181 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm a new mom. I feel like I should be 182 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: back at work. What am I doing? A little bit 183 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: of a struggle of course, Like I talked about, the 184 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: silver lining of this was being able to spend all 185 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: this time with that list, But it was a lot 186 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: of changes really quickly. For me. It was now being 187 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: a stay at home mom, working from home and not 188 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: being able to travel go to my job. Feel like 189 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: any part of my old life was there. And I 190 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: think that it was the biggest struggle. It wasn't like 191 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: I was just coming into this like without child, like 192 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: I was coming into this as like a new mom 193 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: and like trying to figure out my new place in 194 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: this world. While the world was really hard. Whoa, It's 195 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: like your whole identity shifted, whole identity, but the whole 196 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: world changed too, so it's like, what the hell? Who 197 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: are we? And I right? And and you know it 198 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: forced me to in it to a position that I 199 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: wasn't used to before, which was a stay at home mom. 200 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't prepared for that. And I don't know if 201 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: we talked about that last time too, but I have 202 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: friends that are incredible, and that in itself, as we 203 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: both know, is a full time job. I wasn't ready 204 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: for that job, hardest job in the world. I didn't 205 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: think about it like that. I was like, oh, I 206 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: will have that list, I have an incredible team, I'll 207 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: be able to travel, feel like myself again, come back 208 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: be a mom. And that was taken it out. So 209 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, not feel bad for me, 210 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: but like, oh my gosh, I need to figure this out. 211 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: And from that I was like, Okay, I'll figure it 212 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: out while sitting here, and you know, really enjoying myself 213 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: with you know, maybe not the best food, maybe not 214 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, having too much wine, you know, at the 215 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: beginning and all of that. And then I was like, 216 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even moving. And I realized how much I 217 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: used to just move. Whether it was going to the 218 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: grocery store. I cut that out because I was getting 219 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: my groceries delivered. So it was like all of that 220 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: movement had stopped. And I've always said my entire life, 221 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: I've been active since I was a child. I've always 222 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: talked about working out for my mental health. That is 223 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: my therapy. And when I stopped doing that because I 224 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: don't have it. I didn't have a gym in my 225 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: house at that time, I was like, Okay, I didn't 226 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: want to go on walks because paparazzi out there. I 227 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: don't feel like getting photographed in my sweatpants and stained 228 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: shirt today. So it was like all of that just 229 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: took a toll. And I felt like ship last year 230 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: Atlas was the best part of that. But mentally for me, 231 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't feel myself, like all of 232 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: old Shay was gone. And so for me, I knew 233 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: that I had to make a change. I wanted to 234 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: go into one different and January one I remember, like 235 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, I went Ham, I ordered everything, and 236 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: I've been doing that for the last six months. But 237 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: like Ham and jan first, I'm like, no, I need 238 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: to be healthier. I need to be what I was 239 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: doing before this because I have to be strong and 240 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: be here for Atlas. It's not just about me anymore. 241 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: I want to be the best version. I want her 242 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: to see me eating salads and not ordering all of 243 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: this stuff every single day. Like trust me, I'm a 244 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: big fan of junk food, but in moderation, not every 245 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: single day is my clutch. And so after I made 246 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: that change, like now I'm like, I feel so freaking strong. 247 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: I can pick her up my arms at any time, 248 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: I can walk upstairs. I'm not out of breath. Like 249 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: now I'm like cool, I feel like me And now 250 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: I can be the best mom to you, the best 251 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: partner to Matt, the best everything to everybody else because 252 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm at my strongest again, And 253 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: that was super important. And also you set up the boundary, 254 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, you set up the boundary of like you 255 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: know this is my time, you know, like I take 256 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: this hour every day or whatever it is that you 257 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: do three days is where you're like, I have to 258 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: do this for mental physical health. I used to think 259 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: about working out, you know, it's such a vanity what 260 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: I look like, and now it's so much like, oh, 261 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: I just want to sap it here. I just want 262 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: to be here for like a really long time so 263 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: I can see your life and if that means that 264 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: my heart is like able to do cardio so that 265 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: I don't get sick, you know, like I actually it 266 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: sounds dark, but like that's how I think about it. 267 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, I just really need to be healthy so 268 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: I can like watch your life as long as I 269 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: can and look back and be like I did what 270 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: I could to be here. Man like absolutely absolutely. Yeah. 271 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: It's a you know, it's a weird world. Last night 272 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a uh, you know, 273 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: an ups and downs because I did my post. I 274 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: posted this photo showing as a new mom, I feel 275 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: super strong. So many people were like, wait, you should 276 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: have a trigger warning with that. I'm like, I understand that. 277 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I actually don't understand. And social 278 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: media I've always been able to not pay attention to, 279 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: but that really bothered me. I don't know how that 280 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: can affect anybody in a negative way because I busted 281 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: my ass and I have proved a show for that. 282 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: Like I worked out, I ate healthy. That is how 283 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: I feel strong now. It's not about a diet t 284 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: it's not about any of that stuff. I now feel 285 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: like my old self and that needs to be celebrated, 286 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: especially as a new mom. I couldn't. I could not 287 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: agree with you more. Yeah, Dolphace hasn't gone back is 288 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: on hamew So is this like the least like for you? 289 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: This is like being on set. It's slowed down for you. 290 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: Does that feel good to you? Do you feel like 291 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: you hate? Like? Are you like itching to get back 292 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: to work? I'm not. I'm not itching because as I've been, 293 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, keeping myself busy with like social media content, 294 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: still the YouTube, and then I have I launched Onto 295 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: which is ready to drink to quill a brand in 296 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: June of last year. So I've been busy and bass 297 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: that have allowed me to stay home, which is nice. 298 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: But I remember we were talking. I was launching the 299 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: diaper bags and it's out, We're sold out, we're getting restocked. 300 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: So every day I'm replying to comments with my friends 301 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: are like when's the backpack back? And that has been 302 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: so much fun? Like it's that has been so cool. 303 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: Bas is like my first baby, thank you um bass 304 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: was like my first you know baby, and and my 305 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: creative you know um energy is being put somewhere, So 306 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: I feel good about that. To physically be on set, 307 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: do I miss that ish But to me, to be 308 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: quite honest with you, for me to go back to 309 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: being on set and being away from our physically, because 310 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: I can do so much from home, it has to 311 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: be a great project, like I have to want to 312 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: do it. I'm not just doing you know. I don't 313 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: feel that strong about I'm not going to keep myself 314 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: away from over twelve however many hours on set now, 315 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: So I have a different perspective with that, and I 316 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: think that's the one thing I let my whole team know, 317 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: like unless it's a project, I feel really passionate about 318 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: not itching, you know. That's the biggest shift I feel 319 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: like with motherhood is definitely like everything comes down to 320 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: like a choice where this takes me away from my family, 321 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: my children, So it either has to be worth it 322 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: financially or artistically. Absolutely, or you know something that you're like, 323 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: it has to be a real reason. So this year, 324 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: we have truly been forced to sit with ourselves and 325 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: we've we're reassessing a lot of things in our personal 326 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: lives and in our country. How have you been reflecting 327 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: and how has this time shaped you? Oh my gosh, 328 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: just everything Like what you just said, I'm like, yeah, 329 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: because how much has happened in this past year. There's 330 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: two sides to it. On one side, I'm like, okay, 331 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: I feel you know, the positive side, I'm like, we 332 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: are making movement. I want to say that we are 333 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: heading in the right direction, you know, and that's and 334 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: that's exciting, that's positive. And then on the other side, 335 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, we've been in this safe 336 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: little bubble here and now I'm like freaked out. I'm 337 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: freaked out when this is over, Like then she's out 338 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: there and then she's in this world, and this world 339 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: is all so crazy. While we're moving, I want to 340 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: say in a better direction, there's also so much happening. 341 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like I teeter tot her between like feeling 342 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: safe in this moment right now because she's at home 343 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: and I have her here and she's not in school 344 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: yet and all of that to then also be like, 345 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: but I want you to see the world. So this 346 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: year is really kind of tugged with my emotions of 347 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: like wanting it to be over and wanting to push 348 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: her out there, but then also wanting to keep her 349 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: safe in this little bubble that we've had. Of course, 350 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I think if I feel like we're going 351 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: to feel that way our whole lives. I'm in the 352 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: same I didn't put out THEA in pre school because 353 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: I was pregnant and then I had a newborn and 354 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like this is crazy. 355 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: But I have a three and a half year old 356 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: toddler who doesn't see friends, and he writes socialization and 357 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: he needs to learn how to share and like get 358 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: out there. But I'm keeping him in this protected bubble 359 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: because I have a twelve week old and it's just 360 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: like it's a But I think we'll feel that we 361 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: have of wanting to keep them safe but then also 362 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: wanting them to expand and have life experiences and learn 363 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: how to pick themselves up when they fall down. What 364 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: advice or heads up would you have given to Shay 365 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: Mitchell in March of know right, oh, man, Like what 366 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: would we have told ourselves then, I don't know, go 367 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: out to a party, like go on a trip right now, 368 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, like where there was less cases like 369 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: just go on a trip and then come back, get 370 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: it out of I mean, I don't know what we 371 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: could have said to ourselves back then that would have 372 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: prepared us for to have a whole I know I 373 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: would have said to myself, get pregnant right out, trying 374 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: it right now, That's what I would have said to myself. Actually, 375 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: what am I saying now is the perfect time, Shay like, 376 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: because it was hard for me. It was hard to 377 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: be pregnant, and as it is for so for everybody, 378 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure. But like you took to go to work, 379 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, to be out, and then we talked about 380 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: the paparazzi photos, them getting you at your worst when 381 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: you already don't feel great, you feel vulnerable. That was hard. 382 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: So had I could have just you know, not have 383 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: had that. I don't know. I have so many mixed 384 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: of feelings about how I felt and and and some 385 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: of it is like blurry to me now, you know. 386 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: I think that's obviously, what it does so that we 387 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: get pregnant again completely wipes your memory. Because you know, 388 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: I'll watch some videos and I will say, for the 389 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: majority of it, I was so blessed and like liked 390 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: a lot of it. But the parts that I didn't like, 391 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, wow, it's like I want to say, 392 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest and say it, like I 393 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: wanted sibling so bad, but I don't want to go 394 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: through pregnancy again. And and I wasn't that be mean 395 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: goddess that absolutely loved it. I don't want to do 396 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: it again, um, because it is. It took a oh 397 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean mentally, you know, and that's what we said, 398 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: like I had pre partum, not post pre and and 399 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: that was something that I didn't know back then. I 400 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: only heard postpartum, so I was preparing myself for that. 401 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: But then when I was like upset and not feeling 402 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: my best jury and I was like, wait, what's this 403 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: nobody talking about? I should be so happy right now. 404 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: So I'm nervous to go back into it for that again. However, 405 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: I feel like if I'm home and I can be 406 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: comfortable and I don't have to like I don't put 407 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: the pressure on myself for being on set for doing that. 408 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: It will be I'll be more at ease. And also 409 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: you can have the tools like set up, Like I 410 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: have friends who had I think it's perinatal depression, which 411 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: I really need to do an episode on, but people 412 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: who have really horrible depression during their pregnancy and knowing 413 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: that they had that the first time around, preparing themselves 414 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: the second time around with the best you know that 415 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: they can get for therapists and psychiatrists and whatever coping 416 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: mechanisms you have to to to do it differently. Also, 417 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: I have to say my first and second pregnancies were 418 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: completely different, so you you really don't know absolutely if 419 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: you're pregnant with like a boy or a girl. Like 420 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: every single pregnality is very different. Like I felt so 421 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: different this this one was, like I wasn't sick a 422 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: day with Albie. I've never been so sick in my 423 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: life with my daughter. Like it was a very different experience. 424 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: And that's just physical. But but you will prepare yourself, um, 425 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: and maybe you should get pregnant tomorrow so you don't 426 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: have to go seriously it's like get seriously, Oh my god. 427 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to bring up. I was 428 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: listening and you can tell me if you don't feel 429 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: comfortable talking about it. But I was listening back to 430 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: our conversation UM a year ago, and you had shared 431 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: something that you were so excited about finding out when 432 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: you were pregnant with Atlas. But it was a little 433 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: bit dampened because it was not the first time you 434 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: had gotten pregnant. I don't know if that's out there 435 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: or not, but that you had a miscarriage to me too, 436 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I was out of my mind 437 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: when we last spoke and didn't extrapolate on that bit. 438 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: But so you had a miscarriage before Atlas does Were 439 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: you super far along? I was fifteen weeks Um. Everything 440 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: has been put in context. I've had, unfortunately friends of 441 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: mine who have lost way further along, and I think 442 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: at any point, any point, it is going to be 443 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: extremely hard. Um. But I just like my heart goes 444 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: out so much because I understand how that feels. And yeah, 445 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: when I found out with Atlas, it was a little 446 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: damp in. Like I said, I think we talked about 447 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: last time, like when I told Matt that I was pregnant. 448 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, so I'm pregnant, Like it wasn't 449 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: as big of a surprise as it was the first 450 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: time around when I surprised him and did this whole 451 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: thing and filmed it. Because it's I'm nervous and I 452 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: still will be that way. If I find out tomorrow 453 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: that I'm pregnant. I'm going to be nervous the whole 454 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: way through until after and for the rest of my life. 455 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: That's what I And that has been something that I've 456 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: told all my friends who don't have children, and I say, like, 457 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: you know, the ones that are in relationships that are like, oh, 458 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: we're thinking about like cool. I just want you to 459 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: enjoy this time right now where you only worry about 460 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: each other and yourself, like but most of yourself, because 461 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: you will never understand the worry. You will never be 462 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: able to go on vacation and turn off your phone 463 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: completely and like just shut off the world. You will 464 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: never be able to do that again because your mind 465 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: will always be wondering like is she okay? Is he okay? 466 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: You know it will always be there. So just like 467 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: that freedom that you have right now, enjoy that forever, 468 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: because the day you find out you are pregnant and 469 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life you will all be 470 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: worried about their health and their happy and all of that, 471 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, And so I think for me, I think 472 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: from that experience, I'm I'm just very cautious for the 473 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: whole thing, and I will be, if you know, I'm 474 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: fortunate to have to get pregnant again. So I feel 475 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: the same way. I'm glad we've talked about that. That is, 476 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: it was so awful to go through, and also just 477 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad you talked about it because you have such 478 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: reach to so many people and listeners and miscarriages. You know, 479 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: the numbers are one in four pregnancies or miscarriages, and 480 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: women really talk about it and what you know, what 481 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: it goes through mentally, what you go through mentally and 482 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: physically to your body, your hormones, and oh the loss. 483 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: It was so brutal, brutal, and I think my miscarriage 484 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: was like eleven and a half weeks. But I was 485 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: did you have to get a d n C. Yes, yeah, same, same, same, 486 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: which for anyone listening, it's a surgical procedure. It's like 487 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: you're too far along, um, you know where it would 488 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: happen on its own. You know, someone who might miscarriage 489 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: it like seven or eight weeks. You know, it might 490 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: be like a very painful heavery period. But like when 491 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: you get to a certain point, you have to do 492 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: it surgically, which is like I remember having the surgery 493 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: and then that night I was like, I'm having so 494 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: much fucking tequila and sushi, Like I can't like just 495 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: all the things. Totally, totally. My last question, can we 496 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: just take a second and talk about pregnancy melasma. I 497 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: just saw that you had that too. I have it. 498 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: I never again talk about different pregnancies and different reactions. 499 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: Never got melasma at all with Albie. I was completely 500 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: glowing vera. I I have my beautiful grandmother. I can't 501 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: see it right now, by the way, so I don't 502 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: know if it's your camera. Let me get close. There's 503 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: a dark spot that's like Granny Pat, I love you. 504 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: If you're listening, my granny pad has this like it's unbelievable. 505 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: I have to go back to shoot in March and 506 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: I just texted the makeup artist and I was like, 507 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of concealer you have, but 508 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: I have a different face than I had a year 509 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: ago when we were shooting, I have dark spots that 510 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't get taken off. I don't I 511 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: don't know, but I can't see any on you either. 512 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Won the zoom is working, wonders um. You know. I 513 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: see Shawnnie Darden and she has recommended some things. There's 514 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: obviously I'm sure like these treatments and lads, at the 515 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, yes, makeup will cover it. I 516 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: haven't found anything that I'm like, oh, this is incredible, 517 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: this completely works. I'm just continuing with her retina and 518 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: all of that. I do think though it got better 519 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: for me at least from right after I had our 520 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: two now. So I'm sun screening it up every single day. 521 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's raining in gray outside. There's sun. 522 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: So much sunscreen on my face every single day now. See, 523 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: I have really been bad about the sunscreen because I'm like, 524 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm in everything even no no, if you I'm sitting 525 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: in front of a window right now, the UV whatever 526 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: is coming through Katie every single day sunscreen. I don't 527 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: care a dark We needed to hang out, like you're 528 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: going to save my face because I haven't done ships 529 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: fallen off the wagon of self care. Let me tell you, 530 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: like and I'll wake up, you put on sunscreen, you 531 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: massage your face, okay, like a little lymph. It's literally 532 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: a three minute process. We need to talk again. Yes, 533 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: next season when you I'm going to put money on 534 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: you will have a second child. By then, I'm going 535 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: to put money on it. I'll probably put money on 536 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: it too, like I'm gonna put money on that you 537 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: have a second child. And then we need to talk 538 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: about and connect on sibling rival later listening to potty trading. Also, 539 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: one plus one does not equal to one plus one 540 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: equals eleven. Let me tell you that right now. There 541 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: we go. That's good. I've never heard that before. And 542 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: that's incredible. I don't know how anyone has more than 543 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: two right now. I have a three and a five 544 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: year old, very active boy and a eleven and a 545 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: half week old daughter. And it is six thirty am 546 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: when she's hanging off my tit and he's screaming at 547 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: me and bouncing balls off her head and throwing shit 548 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: at her. It's unfucking real. It's unreal. And and I 549 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm so excited because we're going to talk again, and 550 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: you're going to connect with me on this, You'll still 551 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: be unflappable, because that is the shame. Mitchell. We all 552 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: know and love I We'll see, we'll see checking with 553 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: you when I have to. I heard one to two 554 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: is crazy. Two to three is like, yeah, I've heard 555 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: that too. It's hard, but it's also magical. They do. 556 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: They're connected, they're speaking a language to each other. That's 557 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: really um Shane Mitchell, you are a vision. Because we've 558 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: booke ended the beginning of quarantine? Can this be the end? 559 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: Like like like also like can I just have another 560 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: kid before completely opene? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hello, Yeah, 561 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: that's what we'll do. It's like you'll get pregnant and 562 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: it's like we'll just open it up a little bit 563 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: where it's like you can do It's it'll be like 564 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: our nice, loving and gentle re entrance into society. But 565 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: we're still ways away from like full blown dancing in 566 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: a club, you know, at an event, at an event, 567 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: it's like we're not doing that. We're not doing that. 568 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: And then hopefully when this world does open up, then 569 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: kids can play and we can have a coffee day 570 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: and that would be in real life, and our four 571 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: children will be on a playground. Oh my god, I 572 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: love it. I love you. It's so great talking with you, Shay. 573 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. Atlas is so beautiful. Congratulations 574 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: on all of your businesses and success. Thank you and 575 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: congrats to you too, you Mama, Thank you, you guys. 576 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: We did it. That's it, that's it. That's the whole 577 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: season three of Katie's Crib. I cannot thank you enough 578 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart for being my rock. 579 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: Honestly during this whole year, my community, during this incredibly 580 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: isolating time, Katie's Crib was truly a safe space and 581 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 1: I thank you for that. And I wanted to let 582 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 1: you know that season four will becoming at you in 583 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: the spring. So we're not letting our foot off the 584 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: gas here. We got work to do, We got things 585 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: to learn, things to unlearn, things to figure out, laughs 586 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: to be had, tears to be shed, you name it. 587 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: So email me guests that you want to hear from, 588 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: topics you want me to talk about at Katie's Crib 589 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: at Shonda land dot com. Thank you guys so much again. 590 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: I love you, Stay safe, all my love at my 591 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: best and I can't wait for season four. 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