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Speaker 1: What is going on my People three and Out podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Middlecop. You guys are here for the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone showing up. And luckily a large percentage of

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Speaker 1: the of the NFL is on summer vacation, some of

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Speaker 1: us me, I'm sure many of you we had to work.

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Speaker 1: You know we don't. We don't get thirty five forty

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Speaker 1: days off. Luckily, there's enough going on. I can have

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Speaker 1: some takes on some topics they're out there in the

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Speaker 1: football world. Russell Wilson something crystallized to me over the

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Speaker 1: weekend that I wanted to hit on today, and then

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Speaker 1: just a bunch of other little topics that we will

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Speaker 1: fire through. Of course, Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecop is

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Speaker 1: not you know, not Ruth, Chris, not Fleming's just you know,

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Speaker 1: McDonald's in chick fil A. But hey man, bankers can't

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Speaker 1: be choosers. I'll eat it. I actually had Chick fil

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Speaker 1: A on Friday, and for I talked about the Mob

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Speaker 1: last week, my obsession with the Mob. Someone d m

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Speaker 1: me said, you gotta watch Operation Odessa. Watched it awesome,

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Speaker 1: highly recommended. I think it was on Apple TV is

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Speaker 1: where I watched it. Actually paid like seven to watch it.

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Speaker 1: It was well worth it. Operation Odessa. Whoever dm me

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Speaker 1: that tip my hat? Awesome documentary. Russian Mob Uh, Pablo Escobar,

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Speaker 1: FBI Submarines, Cocaine sweet uh, exotic car dealer. Highly recommend,

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Speaker 1: highly recommend. Thanks for the recommendation, and keep them coming,

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Speaker 1: keep them coming. I actually just started watching Ted Lasso.

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Speaker 1: Very funny, very funny. I honestly didn't even know I

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Speaker 1: had Apple TV got a television for my room. I've

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Speaker 1: adult because, like I in theory, I'm like I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I just ended up bringing my iPad in so, like

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Speaker 1: probably six months ago, I put a TV on the wall,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I just got at the Times in the

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Speaker 1: great part is you don't even need a cabe box, right.

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Speaker 1: They have this thing called smart TVs. Not that I

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Speaker 1: didn't have smart TVs in my other room, but I'm

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Speaker 1: still have regular cable, so I don't necessarily use them. Besides,

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Speaker 1: like Netflix, this one, my Comcast just goes right to

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Speaker 1: my television. I just downloaded an app. It's freaking incredible. Uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe I want to have Comcast too much longer unless

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Speaker 1: they want to be a sponsor on the podcast, and

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Speaker 1: I'm more than welcome to keep him rolling. Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: I think this happened late last week. I didn't see

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Speaker 1: it till this weekend, and I just said, had to

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Speaker 1: admiration for him as a player. I think Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: is an all time great player in a weird way.

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Speaker 1: I think he's even now an underrated player. He is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. But

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Speaker 1: the media last week that he never requested a trade,

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Speaker 1: even though his agent told Adam Schefter, well, Russell's not

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Speaker 1: requesting a trade. If they do trade him, here are

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Speaker 1: the four teams he'd want to go to, remember, like Dallas,

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want a divorce, but if we get one,

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Speaker 1: I'm either gonna date Jennifer, Megan or Julie. So just

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Speaker 1: I'm coming after your friends and uh, I think two

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Speaker 1: doo is doing pretty well. You there is an element

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Speaker 1: how can I say this, I despise fake people. I

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Speaker 1: I despise really the fake world that we're living in.

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Speaker 1: I think you see it a lot, definitely in my

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Speaker 1: Like there's a difference just being a bad person and

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Speaker 1: I try to hang my hat on authenticity. I try

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Speaker 1: think politicians rub the majority of human beings the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: I say this all the time. Most human beings are

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Speaker 1: same beliefs, have the same desires. Yet politically we're constantly

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Speaker 1: ripped apart for various reasons. Right, they're they're usually led

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Speaker 1: by corporations, which again I'm pro corporations, I'm pro business,

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Speaker 1: I think we all see some of these commercials on TV.

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Speaker 1: It's like, who what are we doing here? But people

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Speaker 1: And I think Russell Wilson has fallen into this like

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Speaker 1: was when I was scouting. People loved him, and I

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Speaker 1: do believe like Russell is a very very good human

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Speaker 1: like I. I I do believe he stands for, like internally,

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Speaker 1: any longer, instead of tiptoeing around like I don't want

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Speaker 1: even though I pushed back, Like Russell doesn't get that

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Speaker 1: much better, bro, You've one from day one there. They

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Speaker 1: do everything humanly possible to get sweet players. Is it

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Speaker 1: always gonna work? Of course not. They have taken several

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Speaker 1: swings at star players. They just they've drafted pretty well. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, middle cop, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Carson now. Is your offensive line perfect? No?

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Speaker 1: Are you the easiest quarterback to protect? No? Did you

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Speaker 1: great defense and a great run game? Yes? Did your

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Speaker 1: stardom grow because of what they had equipped for you

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Speaker 1: to land? Of course? Do you aspire to be like

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Maybe? But here's what I know about Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: He's never requested a trade. You basically shipped on your

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Speaker 1: you can come back. I didn't say that. No, these

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Speaker 1: you notice that tom Brady's Instagram? Someone dm me this

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Speaker 1: the other day, like we and Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Let's stop comparing them to Tom Brady. Go to Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's Instagram. Check out his stories little circle at the

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Speaker 1: top of the instagram. Click on that. You know what.

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Speaker 1: The majority of the stories are teammates, offensive lineman, wide receivers, linebackers, corners,

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Speaker 1: his coaching staff. He's always propping up other people. And

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Speaker 1: he's been like that since New England. Obviously, but he

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Speaker 1: was like that with mccordy, was Slater with Gronkowski, with

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, Russell puts on this corporate image

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Speaker 1: like it's a little bit about you, Russell, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm selfish as well, most people listening are. But to

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Speaker 1: got caught up in this media storm is very, very disingenuous.

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Speaker 1: Your agents, who in a million years would never ever

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Speaker 1: say anything to ruin the relationship with his client. Why

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Speaker 1: Because Russell Wilson is a cash cow. Anyone listening to

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Speaker 1: this in sales, in any business you're in, if you

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Speaker 1: screw up that relationship. So when his agent gave those

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Speaker 1: bet Russell would like to play for these four teams. No,

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Speaker 1: that was Russell's words. He just used the agent as

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Speaker 1: basically like you know, an umbrella, as a as like

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Speaker 1: a wall as a separator. No, Russell, we could Adam Schefter,

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Speaker 1: who I'm buddies with. I like Adam Schefter could have

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Speaker 1: easily just wrote Russell Wilson would like to Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: says he wants to go to one of these four

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Speaker 1: unquote differences. But I I just think people have a problem.

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Speaker 1: And Rogers kind of acts like this too. I said

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Speaker 1: just get a better player. So just say that your

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Speaker 1: they have this team and there's just like this separation

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Speaker 1: they're untouchable. You know. J J. Watt battled this for

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Speaker 1: has got much more normal over the years. Russell's the worst.

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Speaker 1: Rogers is somewhere in the middle, and I'm not acting

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Speaker 1: you know, he's just one of the guys. I think

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Speaker 1: anyone that's played with the Russell would say, yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: But this claim that you didn't ask for a trade,

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine if you look at your

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Speaker 1: That's where I want to be. It would be over now.

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Speaker 1: Obviously business is different than personal relationships, but that's kind

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Speaker 1: best corners in the league. If not given a year,

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Speaker 1: might have been the best corner in the league. You know,

425
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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen. Last year, he got hurt, wants a new

426
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Speaker 1: big contract. Here's the problem. He's going to be thirty

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Speaker 1: one this season. I would say, in the history of

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Speaker 1: the league, Don quarterback, you should never be in the

429
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Speaker 1: business of giving a high end player a high end

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Speaker 1: third contract. I have no problem and neither does Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick giving elite players second contracts. People are always like

432
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Speaker 1: Belichick never gives any money. He doesn't signed Logan Ankins,

433
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Speaker 1: signed Richard Seymour, signed Rob Gronkowski, He signed a you know,

434
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Speaker 1: Devin mccordy high tower. He signed a lot of second contracts.

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Speaker 1: Two guys he will never signed third contracts. Gilmore is

436
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Speaker 1: not going to be on the Patriots after this year.

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Speaker 1: The question is do they trade him now? But if

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Speaker 1: you're another GM, do you feel comfortable with a skill

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Speaker 1: guy coming off a major injury. I think it was

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Speaker 1: a torn quad giving him a multi year guaranteed contract,

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Speaker 1: and when you're talking about an elite Pro Bowl level guy,

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Speaker 1: this is not twenty million guaranteed. He's gonna want I

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Speaker 1: don't know twenty million dollars a year, so it's I'm

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Speaker 1: a step on Gilmore guy. But I think the history

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Speaker 1: of the league tells us you should never ever be

446
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Speaker 1: in the business of any non quarterback giving third contracts

447
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Speaker 1: at premium numbers. Away. I got no problem signing third

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Speaker 1: contracts to guys at a lower number at a team

449
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: friendly cap space. But not I can't break the bank.

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Speaker 1: That is poor business. That is for everyone that you're

451
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Speaker 1: gonna hit on, you're gonna miss on five. It is

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Speaker 1: a risk, a proposition that I would not be in

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Speaker 1: the business of if I was a general manager. Clearly,

454
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Speaker 1: the ball is rolling down the hill, the avalanche of

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Speaker 1: momentum for the twelve team playoffs. Of course, this was inevitable.

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Speaker 1: There is Do you know where four team playoff has

457
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Speaker 1: been cool? Do you know what would be way better eight?

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Speaker 1: Do you know it to be better in eight twelve?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what would equal more money, more teams,

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Speaker 1: more fan bases. It's not like all these new fan

461
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Speaker 1: bases are gonna come. I think I talked about it

462
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Speaker 1: last week, like we have a general idea of the

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Speaker 1: twenty to twenti teams that are gonna be in the

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Speaker 1: mix every year, and really four or five of the

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna make the twelve team playoff every single time.

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Speaker 1: But if you're a fan of Oregon, if you're a

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Speaker 1: fan of Washington, if you're a fan of Texas, if

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Speaker 1: you're a fan of Florida, your team is definitely more

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Speaker 1: likely to be in the mix every couple of years

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Speaker 1: with a twelve team playoff. Plus, there's just more money.

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Speaker 1: The more money, more marketable, means more money for the players.

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Speaker 1: Now that you know name, image and likeness is out there,

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Speaker 1: this is I would say this is a borderline lock

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Speaker 1: by the end of this year to be official, and

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Speaker 1: I think we just start next year. We're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do four teams this year, but I would

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Speaker 1: be on twelve by next year. Start rocking and rolling.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what the people want, because guess what, watch

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Speaker 1: one thou percent. It will rate, it will get viewers,

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Speaker 1: it will get eyeballs. Levian Bell people kept dving me,

481
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Speaker 1: like middle Coff, what's your opinion on Levan Bell's comments.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. If I was in Levian bell shoes

483
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Speaker 1: and I made one of the worst financial decisions in

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Speaker 1: the history of the league. I am fourteen million dollars

485
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Speaker 1: poorer because I took the advice of my agent, of

486
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Speaker 1: my team, and of myself to sit out my second

487
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Speaker 1: franchise tag for the Pittsburgh Steelers. That was fourteen million

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Speaker 1: dollars I will never get back. We've all made a

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Speaker 1: poor business decision in our life, right, sold a stock

490
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Speaker 1: too early, sold a home too early. I bought something

491
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Speaker 1: at too high But for most human beings, even if

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Speaker 1: you make your worst financial decision is not the end

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Speaker 1: of the world. Right, fourteen million dollars, I don't care

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Speaker 1: how much money you've made. And listen, he was a

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Speaker 1: second round pick, so it's not like he got huge.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he was a top twelve pick, so

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Speaker 1: he didn't really make money until that. This was he

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Speaker 1: only got one contract, and it was twenty seven million

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Speaker 1: dollars guarantee from the Jets, And unlike quarterbacks and like

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Speaker 1: a lot of wide receivers and tackles and linebackers, they

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Speaker 1: cut them by year two, so the only money he

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Speaker 1: saw was the guaranteed cash. So instead of having the

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Speaker 1: twenty seven million dollars and fourteen million dollars do the math,

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Speaker 1: so he's Piste he's petty. I understand it now. Is

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Speaker 1: he wrong? Of course? Like Levian, you're not any good

506
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Speaker 1: because your decision not only cost you a lot of money,

507
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Speaker 1: you got worse at football. You took a year off,

508
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: came back, and you were dramatically worse. I had a

509
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Speaker 1: I had a pro scouting buddy that text me, I

510
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Speaker 1: love Levian Bell. So did my friends in the league.

511
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Speaker 1: They're like, you know what's sad. He looks slower, he

512
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: looks like a different player. This was year one for

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Speaker 1: the Jets, and they don't evaluate like when you're in

514
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Speaker 1: the league, you're not. You're not just totally like, oh,

515
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Speaker 1: it's the offense is fault, Adam Gaine's fault. They're just

516
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Speaker 1: judging the player in a vacuum. He got worse because

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Speaker 1: you know why iron sharpens iron. You can't take a

518
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Speaker 1: year off in the NFL when you're twenty seven, twenty

519
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: eight years old. You can't take a year off in

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Speaker 1: any pro sport and expect to come back better. That's

521
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Speaker 1: not the way it works, especially at running back, the

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Speaker 1: position where the tread on the tires. Levian wasn't fast

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Speaker 1: to begin with, so if he lost half a step,

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Speaker 1: that is a dramatic uh problem for that individual player.

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Speaker 1: Right Like if Julio Jones loses a quarter of a step,

526
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Speaker 1: like whatever, he's still bigger than every dB, He's stronger

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Speaker 1: than every dB. He'll be able to make up for it.

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Speaker 1: And ways, if Levian Bell loses half a step, I

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Speaker 1: hate to say, he's fucked and clearly the Chief's got him.

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Speaker 1: And he's is open minded with any with players as

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Speaker 1: any coach and this modern a game, like the coach

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Speaker 1: in my backyard, Kyle Shanahan is the opposite. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanian guy, but he has not open minded when

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Speaker 1: it comes to players, not at all. He wouldn't touch

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Speaker 1: a guy like Levian Bill once he you know, gets

536
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Speaker 1: the boot from the Jets, he doesn't do that. And

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00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: he's when it comes to players as open minded as

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Speaker 1: liberal with talented guys. Whatever, if you can play, come

539
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: on in, he'll play you. Levian stinks. He's not any

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Speaker 1: good and he only has himself to blame. Now. Ultimately,

541
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Speaker 1: maybe his agent gave him the advice, Maybe his mom

542
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Speaker 1: gave him the advice. Maybe whoever gave him the advice,

543
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Speaker 1: we all have. It was his decision. He agreed to

544
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Speaker 1: do it in the media. God, they championed him. Take

545
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Speaker 1: it against the man Levian Bell against the Steelers. Yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: sit out the year you show them Levian pro player,

547
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, the pro player Twitter media is like fourteen

548
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Speaker 1: million dollars, he'll never get back. And then when he

549
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: did come back, he sucked. And the two years he

550
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Speaker 1: had to come back for he had to play for

551
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Speaker 1: the Jets. Good choice, bro, good move. I'd probably hate

552
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: Andy Reid to if I, you know, my NFL career

553
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: sputtered out and fell off a cliff. That good idea

554
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: to tweet that out or instagram that out every team

555
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: in the league. Wait, you know the hundreds of players

556
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Speaker 1: that haven't got along with coach Reid. I've been every

557
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Speaker 1: team in the league like, oh yeah, let's bring on

558
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Speaker 1: Levan Bill in Nope, Like what are you doing? Man?

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Speaker 1: Okay at John Middlecoff is the Instagram handle you fire

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Speaker 1: in the d m s and you get your question

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Speaker 1: answered here on the show. Also, put all this all

562
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Speaker 1: the podcast material up on YouTube just under my name

563
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, all the three and out stuff. And definitely

564
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Speaker 1: once football starts back up after you know this next

565
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Speaker 1: month and a half or whatever, training camp I'll have

566
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Speaker 1: separate videos up there as well, and who knows. Just

567
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Speaker 1: keep keep the content flowing on on the YouTube and

568
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: obviously here on the podcast from Alexander Love the Pot

569
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Speaker 1: up here in Canada, wondering why you think everyone overlooks

570
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Speaker 1: Mike Evans when he has more crew touchdowns than Hopkins, Kelsey, Julio,

571
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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen and Ti Hilton, and he was drafted after

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Speaker 1: all of them. Not to mention, he's had at least

573
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Speaker 1: a thousand yards every year since being drafted, so he's

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Speaker 1: more consistent. Great question, I I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 1: if he had played with Tom Brady his whole career,

576
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Speaker 1: I think he would be viewed like Keenan Allen and

577
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams. I you know, that's a great question. I

578
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Speaker 1: think Mike Evans is a star. I think everyone in

579
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Speaker 1: football values the guy. You know, sometimes your market dictates

580
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Speaker 1: how big of a star you are. How many times

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Speaker 1: you've been in the playoffs. You know, that was Mike

582
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Speaker 1: evans first ever time in the playoffs. Julio has been

583
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Speaker 1: an NFC Championship game, He's been in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Davante obviously played in a lot of big games with

585
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Speaker 1: the Packers. They're just a big national team. This was

586
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Speaker 1: Mike evans first year. I mean people in fantasy no,

587
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: but I mean football fans know. But it's just the

588
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Speaker 1: marketing machine that is for playoff teams is different. So

589
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Speaker 1: I think Mike evans popularity is gonna go grow dramatically.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think he cares. I've followed him for

591
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Speaker 1: a long time and I think he's kind of low key.

592
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Speaker 1: Dude's a baller. I'm with you. I love Mike Evans,

593
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: top five wide receiver in the NFL. One do you

594
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: think Jerry Jones regrets not hiring Urban Meyer instead of McCarthy. Uh, well,

595
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: McCarthy was a disaster last year. I don't know if

596
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Speaker 1: Urban was open minded to taking a job last year,

597
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: if he wanted several years off. But there's what I mean,

598
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Speaker 1: let's face it, there's no pressure with the Jacks. I mean,

599
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Speaker 1: if he fails, like whatever, he failed with the Jacks,

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Speaker 1: they always fail, they suck. You fail with the Cowboys,

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00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: it's kind of equivalent to like when he took order

602
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. It's a different level job. I'm not saying

603
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: there won't be criticism. He obviously has the number one

604
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Speaker 1: overall pick. But taking the Cowboys is probably the biggest

605
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Speaker 1: high profile job in America, especially now like the Yankees,

606
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: like Aaron Boone. Managers in baseball don't matter. Basketball coaches,

607
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, like the days of being Phil Jackson pat

608
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Speaker 1: Riley famous are over. So you could argue the Cowboys

609
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Speaker 1: job is America's biggest job, right, whatever soccer's biggest job is,

610
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Speaker 1: you know you guys, soccer aficionado's man City, Chelsea, Barcelona,

611
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Speaker 1: whatever that job is is probably the Cowboys, which is

612
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Speaker 1: crazy because you don't even win, but it is. We

613
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Speaker 1: all agree it's a high profile job. Uh. Started listening

614
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: to you through Collins feed before I found three and

615
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Speaker 1: out appreciate that. Do you think that players in the

616
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Speaker 1: NFL will start gaining the kind of influence and mobility

617
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Speaker 1: that NBA players have, Well, starts start forcing their way

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Speaker 1: out of bad franchises, a team team up and chase rings.

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Speaker 1: I'd say you never say never. Uh, it's just different football.

620
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: Teams don't have to capitulate. Teams don't have to give

621
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Speaker 1: into your demands. In the NBA, when they ask you,

622
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: they're like I want to be traded, Like, oh, where

623
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Speaker 1: do you want us? To trade you two, We'll do

624
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: whatever you want. In the NFL, it's like no, Aaron,

625
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere like see a training camp. So

626
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: the NFL just operates a little bit differently. It's actually

627
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: much healthier. Let's face it, the the NBA just constantly

628
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: trading these guys is not great for business. A huge

629
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Speaker 1: point of difference for the NFL has been players stay

630
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Speaker 1: on their team for minimums eight nine years. Right when

631
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Speaker 1: a guy leaves in free agency, it's because the team

632
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: chooses not to sign him. Now, every once in a while,

633
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, Jalen Ramsey, they were on the worst two

634
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Speaker 1: teams in the league. Like, I don't even think it

635
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Speaker 1: was that crazy. I think the Khleil mac thing was

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Speaker 1: pretty nuts. But for the most part, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I I don't think it'll get to that level. Also,

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Speaker 1: the only people that are at that level are the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: If I trade for Jamal Adams or Kalil Mack, that

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Speaker 1: does not guarantee me anything. Now, if I trade for

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson or Mahomes or Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: that I'm immediately good. But just because I trade, like

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Speaker 1: the Bears had a good roster, right. The Seattle was

644
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Speaker 1: already a playoff team, same with the Rams, so when

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Speaker 1: they trade for those players like they were already good.

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Speaker 1: Now that you can argue the Bears Khalil ment a lot.

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Speaker 1: But Khalil was a very very unique situation when he

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Speaker 1: was traded. He didn't want to get traded. He just

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Speaker 1: wanted his money. The Raiders, I just don't think he

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Speaker 1: had any Raider fans would be like, yes they did.

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Speaker 1: John Mark Davis is rich. Okay, guys, sorry, he has money.

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Speaker 1: I'm heading into my senior year of college and we'll

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Speaker 1: be graduating with a degree in computer science. I love

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Speaker 1: all things football. Do you see the football community in

655
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Speaker 1: the future leveraging data and hiring someone hiring more data analysts?

656
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Speaker 1: And if so, do you have any recommendations about getting

657
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Speaker 1: a foot in the door? Keep up the great work.

658
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Speaker 1: What I did originally in college was just mail my

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Speaker 1: resume to general managers and coaches, and I still think

660
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: that is a process that will never get old. Now

661
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Speaker 1: you're competing with a lot of people to try to

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Speaker 1: get their attention. A lot of emails get deleted, a

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Speaker 1: lot of mail gets thrown away. But I I would

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Speaker 1: play guerilla marketing and just email. Whether it was general managers,

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Speaker 1: whether it was contract negotiators. Every team is leading leaning

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Speaker 1: more into Danta data analysis. So yeah, I just think

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Speaker 1: I still have in this desk where I'm sitting right

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Speaker 1: now several letters from the Green Bay Packers. I have

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Speaker 1: one for the Chicago Bears. Thank you for your recent

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Speaker 1: inquiry regarding employment with the Chicago Bears. This is from

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six. Your interest in our organization is appreciated. However,

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Speaker 1: we do not have anything at this time. I have

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Speaker 1: one from the Packers. I have one from the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I have one from the Giants. Let me read you

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Speaker 1: one from the Giants March two thousand seven. God, that

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Speaker 1: feels like a long time ago. I am in receipt

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Speaker 1: of your inquiry regarding a position with the Giants. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: we do not have any openings at this present time.

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Speaker 1: We will keep your resume on file in the event

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Speaker 1: a position becomes available. March two thousand seven. I have

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Speaker 1: that's the one from the Steelers. I have one from

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Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks. I mean everyone was saying no. Three

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Speaker 1: years later I was in the NFL. I'll give John

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Speaker 1: Mara credit. Signed it. John John K. Mara signed it.

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Speaker 1: I talked some about John mar not because he's not

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Speaker 1: a high level guy, just because I'm more of an eagle,

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Speaker 1: you know, than I am a giant. But I respect

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Speaker 1: that everyone else printed signatures. He signed it personally, maybe

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Speaker 1: he had an assistant forge it. But but I think

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Speaker 1: the overall takeaways, I am literally living proof. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know one soul in the NFL. And you can relate

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Speaker 1: this to any business you want to work into. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the NFL feels more untouchable than say like Google or

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Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks or whatever, just because it's like so public

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Speaker 1: and these guys are, I guess more famous. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: just feel more famous in the world I live in.

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00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: But if you're in finance, the the finance guys feel famous.

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Speaker 1: But I would say the NFL is probably a little different.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know anybody, and I'm so I gotten that smart.

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Speaker 1: I just went to a state school, I had a

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Speaker 1: business degree, and I just willed my way there. I

702
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Speaker 1: was just relentless. Now I didn't I didn't know how

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Speaker 1: to get there, but I ultimately found a way there.

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Speaker 1: And if I can do it, I promise you some

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Speaker 1: of you Guys that DM me are more intelligent, go

706
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Speaker 1: to better goals, probably sure have better resumes. I mean

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Speaker 1: in college, I worked at a golf course. You know,

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Speaker 1: if I can do it, so can you. That that

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Speaker 1: would be if you really want to work in football,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, if middle golf can do it, I

711
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: can do it too. Uh. I'm a Packer fan and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers situation is one glari elephant in the room

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Speaker 1: that I feel like isn't being discussed. In the case

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Speaker 1: of an Aaron Rodgers trade, I feel like the Packers

715
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: organization will favor getting players and picks over just picks.

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Speaker 1: They still want to win the division with or without Rogers.

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Speaker 1: So the thing that confuses me is what team who

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Speaker 1: would actually trade for him comes out of trading for

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Speaker 1: Rogers better than the Packers currently are Now. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think ultimately the Denver Broncos would really want to

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Speaker 1: trade for him. He's Aaron freaking Rogers, So if that

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Speaker 1: meant giving him a player and some draft picks, I

723
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Speaker 1: think they wouldn't hesitate doing that. Now. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: the NBA thing, like it's really easy for all these

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Speaker 1: teams to trade all these first round picks for James

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Speaker 1: Harden and not really give players because I don't. If

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Speaker 1: I'm the Denver Broncos, it's like I don't want to

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Speaker 1: give you Jerry Judy no offense in two first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I want those two guys with Aaron Rodgers. And if

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Speaker 1: I'm Aaron Rodgers, I want those two guys with me.

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Speaker 1: I want to trade picks. It's a tough situation. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really make sense for the Packers to trade

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and it doesn't make that much sense for

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Speaker 1: any of these other teams if they can't hold on

735
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Speaker 1: to all their young, sweet offensive talent. What's the best

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Speaker 1: way to go about getting in the sports industry, What

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Speaker 1: major minor would help me? What other things should I

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Speaker 1: be doing aside from getting a college education? Right now,

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00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 1: Caleb looks like he's a football player. My my recommendation

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Speaker 1: would be, I think just business degrees. Again, I can

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Speaker 1: only speak for experience. I worked with guys from Harvard,

742
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: I worked from guys that played in the your play

743
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: in college. I work with guys that were political science majors.

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00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: I personally think, unless you're gonna build bridges right or

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00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: there are specific you know, degrees, but I think it

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Speaker 1: degree is pretty overrated. Like if you work in the NFL,

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00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: it's not like you remember what you learned sophomore you're

748
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Speaker 1: in college. They never ask you that. So it depends

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Speaker 1: what you want to do in the sports industry. Do

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00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: you want to sell tickets, do you want to sell sponsorships?

751
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: Do you want to evaluate players? Because if you want

752
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: to evaluate players and work in the front officer, degrees irrelevant.

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00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: Having a degree, I guess is important, but what your

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00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: actual degree is in is not. And I think the

755
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: easiest way is just just do whatever humanly possible it

756
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: is to make connections with people inside. And I was

757
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Speaker 1: lucky once I got denied from all these places and

758
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Speaker 1: I got to work at Fresno State. I got to

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Speaker 1: meet all these people in the NFL, and Anthony Patch,

760
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: who's still with the Eagles, was the guy that got

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Speaker 1: me in my interview. I got to meet Adam Peters,

762
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Speaker 1: who's now the number two with the UH with the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners. John Robinson used to come in now the

764
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Speaker 1: general manager of the Tennessee Titans. You just these guys

765
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Speaker 1: come through a bunch of other scouts that are now

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Speaker 1: assistant directors, college directors, some are still scouting something like

767
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: Robinson or GMS, so you just you never know, but

768
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Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to get around those people.

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Speaker 1: That would be my number one recommendation. You guys can

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Speaker 1: do it, because if if I did it, I promise

771
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: you anyone listening can do it. I promise you. Most

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Speaker 1: homes I lived in, like my college roommates, I was

773
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: always the dumbest guy there. Now, I was the most

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Speaker 1: aggressive and relentless my greatest skill. When I want something,

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Speaker 1: I'm just relentless until I get it. But just in

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Speaker 1: terms of like intellectual capacity, I was always a low

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Speaker 1: test scorer, But if I fucking want something, it's my

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00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: greatest strength. I will not stop until I get it.

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00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: And you don't always get it, but I will get something.

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Speaker 1: And that to me is like my number one quality

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Speaker 1: in life as an accomplisher. Because I can't, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna I'll be the dumbest guy in the room most

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00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: rooms like get step into. And it's just I'm not

784
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Speaker 1: saying that to try to like be humble or whatever.

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00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm just I've been around some brilliant people I don't like.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that in me. Now maybe I've figured

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Speaker 1: out a way to use my brain to my advantage

788
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: what little I have upstairs. But be relentless. Whatever you

789
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: want be my number one life advice. Do not stop

790
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: till you get it. And the way the world works is,

791
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you think what you want, you don't

792
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: end up getting, but you get you know what kind

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00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: of works, and it'll work out, or you learn on

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00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: your way there what you actually like and what you

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Speaker 1: don't like. Like me, I'm doing this now. Who I

796
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna be doing this a decade ago.

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00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: You know, everything kind of happens for a reason. Is

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Speaker 1: you just kind of plow through, Uh, you know, your

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Speaker 1: young adult life. I think I'm a young adult, I

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Speaker 1: guess at thirty six. So all you people in your twenties,

801
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: you've got so much sweet life to lead. Just stay

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00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: skinny and just eat whatever you want in your twenties,

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00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: enjoy because uh, once you start pounding down cheeseburgers and

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00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: and corpse lights in your mid thirties, you know, you

805
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: wake up on Monday morning and you add five pounds,

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Speaker 1: So just get ready for that. Good luck audios, see

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Speaker 1: you later this week. Peace m