1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: with our. 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Radio It's almost famous podcast. We are sitting here at 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: the Bachelor Manasion. We are so pumped to have two 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: of my favorite people, actually two people I've traveled with, 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: two people I've slept with in the same room. 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: The great distinction, Yeah, very important distinction. We stayed in 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 3: the same room people I've slept in the same room, 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 3: in the same room, separate beds. 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 4: I think we were all surprised by that, having Shargah. 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't something I expected, but it worked out great. 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: It was so much fun. 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: So I'm going to start with our Hawaii trip, okay, 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: because because there is something we need. 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 5: To talk about. 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 17 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: I've heard through the grape Vines that on your podcast 18 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: it's a really good podcast. 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: That I'm being blamed for an injury that Dean currently has. 20 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: Somewhere else with that that we were talking about, I 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: know what I yeah, yes, yes, Ben, you hurt me. 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So here's what happened during this trip. Dean Kaylin, 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: my wife and myself were in Hawaii. The reason that 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: Dean Kaling came because I love you, Jess loves you. 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 2: We had a trip to Hawaii planned with Hilton Grant Vacations, 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: and we're like, how fun would it be if Dean 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: Kaling can come? 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: And then you guys came and it was great. 29 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: But at night, here's the problem with traveling with jess 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: and I, and I understand this. Jessica and I are 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: very early to bed people, like we do not love 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: like late night bar sessions. 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 5: Which is why we knew we want to travel with 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 5: you guys because we are the same. 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: Yes we're the same Kaalen more so than me, but yes, 36 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: we're definitely early sleepers as well, especially on trips. Yeah, 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: so like it's really fun during the day, early mornings, 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: early nights. But we got back two different nights, but 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: one night in particular where we decided, let's play a game, 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: like games are fun. So Dean and I made up 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: this game where you didn't know you need all the 42 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: credit as you made up a game. So that's where 43 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: I think I have a differing opinion. But so I 44 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: made up this game where if you guessed the card 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 3: incorrectly so it was red or black in a deck 46 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: of cards, then then if you got it wrong, the 47 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: person that was the dealer got to pick a workout 48 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: that the other person had to do well. It started 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: off with push ups, so you would guess the color. 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: If you got it wrong, you had to do ten 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: push ups. And we after about two or three cards, 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: We're like. 53 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: I can't do it any more pushes. I'm exhausted. Yeah, 54 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: it's a lot of push ups. 55 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: I've done seventy push I've done seventy push ups in 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: twenty years. 57 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 5: I could use my arms for a week. 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: And so we started to go to jump squads. 59 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: And then the girls came in and we were like, guys, 60 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: our arms are noodles. What should we do? And then 61 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: I think you looked at them, just look back at you. 62 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: And somehow it got up to the point where it's like, 63 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: why don't you girls think of a workout for the 64 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: guy that doesn't get the card right? 65 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 66 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh. 67 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, a couple of weeks after 68 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: the vacation, Dean shows up on Instagram saying that he 69 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: has a hurt hip. He can't walk, he can't move, 70 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: he's absolutely in so much pain. And then there's a 71 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: clip of it being blamed on me. And so I 72 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: hired an attorney because I was away. 73 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: For a lawsuit. You're being served proactive. 74 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: I love the proactivity. So the question that came from 75 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: all this is how you feeling? 76 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 5: Well? 77 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: I just got an MRI on Monday. I got an 78 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: MRI ben you know what that is. That's when they 79 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: can't see anything wrong with that X ray, so they 80 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: have to send you to the MRI machine. 81 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: What does an MEMRI stand for? 82 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: Gosh, not even quick enough to think of what that 83 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: could possibly be. Do you know how how. 84 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: Do you know how awkward it is to be in 85 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: an MRI machine. You've tore an ACL, you've probably been 86 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: in one before. 87 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: I've been in MRIs. I've never felt awkward. I felt 88 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: very relaxed. There's no way to feel relaxed in an 89 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: MRI machine. It's the so so funny. I walked in 90 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: there and they're like, do you want to listen to music? 91 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: And I was like, could you put them on any football? 92 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: And they said no, you can put on music and 93 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: I said, okay, put on Coffee Shops Tunes. And I 94 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: was thinking, like, that's all I was going to hear 95 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: the entire time. They put on this Coffee Shop Tunes 96 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: volume out like a four, so it was very loud 97 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: and then the machine the entire time is just making 98 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: these insane noises, non stop insane noises, and I'm like, 99 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: what's the point in music. I can't even hear what's 100 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 3: going on Anyways, I'll have to say, I don't know 101 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: what's wrong with the hip. It is the most agonizing 102 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: pain of my entire life. It hurts more now than 103 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: it did when I broke it initially. And the only 104 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: person I can think to blame in this entire situations you, 105 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: so thank. 106 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 5: You very much for that it hurts. 107 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: It hurts, I will say, to your credit, to your credit, 108 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: you're You're such a nice guy. 109 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 5: You're so loving. 110 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: You've texted me once a week and you've checked in 111 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: with me how's the hip doing? And I appreciate that. 112 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: You know, just because you're the cause of it doesn't 113 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: mean that you have to forget about me. So I 114 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 3: appreciate you at least. 115 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Being I appreciate you. 116 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 5: Karen. 117 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was in prison for this, I'd still 118 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: be texting you. So this hip comes from a past 119 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: story obviously that people very know very well. You broke 120 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: your hip when you were skiing in Switzerland, and Kaylan 121 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: was so sweet to come out and obviously stay with 122 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: you in your hospital room as you recovered, because you 123 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: were obviously this is a big deal, and you just 124 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: think this is something that's happened based on that injury 125 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: years ago. 126 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 5: So I was asking the doctor. 127 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: I was like, worst case scenario, what's like the absolute 128 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: worst case scenario? And he said necrosis is the worst 129 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: case scenario, okay, And I was like, okay, yep, that's 130 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: what that means. 131 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: Your blood is not getting to the right places. 132 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: So the reason I got the surgery in Switzerland, and 133 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: it's so it's messed up because I was hopped up 134 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: on painkillers and they, which makes sense, like you they 135 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: give you pain killers so you can get to the 136 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: hospital and then you're at the hospital and then give 137 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: you your diagnosis, but you're gonna be hopped up on painkillers 138 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: while they give your diagnosis. And I was the only 139 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: person there, so I was the only person. I could 140 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: speak for myself. 141 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: But why would you say no to the surgery? 142 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: I it's so annoying. I wish I could have said 143 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: no to the What would you have done? Just so 144 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: what they said was you're at risk to suffer from necrosis, 145 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: which is if there's and I'm going to butcher this. 146 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: I'm no doctor. 147 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: If there's a fracture in a bone, the fracture could 148 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: let blood into the bone and then it like deteriates 149 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: the blone from the bone from the inside or something 150 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: like that. And what they wanted to do was drill 151 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: into the bone to heal the fracture, essentially to not 152 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: let any outside organisms into the fracture. And I know, 153 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: there's this's just not right, but that's that's what I 154 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: remember it being. At least it sounds right and so, 155 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: but in my head, I wish I would have just 156 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 3: been like, reset my hip, put it back in the socket, 157 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: let the bone figure itself out. So what they did 158 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: was they put five screws in there and put a 159 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: plate in there. Anyways, all this to say, so I 160 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: asked the doctor, what's the worst case scenario? You said, necrosis? 161 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: And I said, Okay, what's the What do I do 162 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: if I have necrosis? Amputation? He goes, no, it's a 163 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: hip replacement. And I was like, oh, can you just 164 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: replace my hip now? Like that doesn't sound so bad. 165 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: Hip replacements comes such a long way. You could be 166 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: walking out of the hospital that same day a. 167 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 4: Big hip replacement. 168 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: I'm so pro hip replacing. 169 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 5: It's disgusting. 170 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, so that's that's worst case scenario, which really 171 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: isn't that bad of a scenario, but yeah, there's agonizing 172 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 3: pain every every So what I've done is I've kept 173 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: a log of the food that I've eaten, because what 174 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: I think it is is a circulation issue. So if 175 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: I eat red meat, it's particularly like Deli meats like 176 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: slammy pepperoni. Every time I go to Subway or go 177 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: to Jimmy John's or Jersey Mikes, and I eat my 178 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: Italian sandwichich I love so much. My leg an hour 179 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: later is just throbbing, an intense pain, and I'm like 180 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: so inconsolable. Calin's like, what can I need to help? 181 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, just get away from me. I don't eat 182 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: anyone around me. Give me my ibuprofin. And so that's 183 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: what I'm dealing with. But I think I've managed it 184 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: a little bit better with my food intake, like I'm 185 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: only eating greens and chicken. 186 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: And we should find out tomorrow too about the MRI results. 187 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: I should have found out like two days ago. I 188 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 5: thought it's kind of frustrating that that's taken something. 189 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: You know, if they give you a hip replacement, you 190 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: can actually ask them to give you an inch and height. 191 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: Oh. 192 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna say inch somewhere else, and 193 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: I was way more excited about just. 194 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: Get taller shorter. We're thinking about you. I have been 195 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: worried about it. 196 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: I know it was a tangent that you didn't want 197 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: to go I did. 198 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: We're in a group text of just been Dean and 199 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: myself and Ben texted was like, how's it going? And 200 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: I almost texted back and was like, we lost the 201 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: house and I thought you were talking about the house. 202 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: I would have been mortified. And then Dean text He's. 203 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 5: Like, honestly might have been. 204 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: I just turned texted. 205 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: He's like, get the next right, and I was like, 206 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,359 Speaker 4: I would have been so embarrassed if I updates. 207 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: Wait for the record, I might be embarrassed now for 208 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: making it about me instead of making it about that. 209 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: It's definitely about you, because I've been texting on the 210 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: side too. Yeah, okay, so you just mentioned that house. 211 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: You guys have been kind of dabbling in the idea 212 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: of moving. 213 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 4: To Colorado will be your neighbors. 214 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: And so this is now semi official kind of getting closed. 215 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: You're looking more in the Aspen region, which is like 216 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: two and a half hours from Jessica and myself, and 217 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: we've been so excited for you guys to find a place. 218 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: How's that going. 219 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: It's good. We close in about two to three weeks, 220 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 4: and so I'm not allowing my I was so excited, 221 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: like just so giddy and so ready to get out there. 222 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: I'm not allowing myself to be excited until like the 223 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: papers are signed as our home. But we are very 224 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 4: very close, closer than we've been. We've been under contract 225 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: three times now, we have I have fallen in love 226 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 4: with ten homes at this point. 227 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 5: So what it would it take for us not to 228 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 5: get the house at this point? 229 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: Because that's what whenever you put some little ideas into 230 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 4: my head that kind of freaked me out. 231 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: Well because people ask this question, like Ben just asked, 232 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: and I always say, we're like literally in the latter 233 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: stages of ceiling, like we've. 234 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: Done everything, like we just have to wait until the 235 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: date and it closes. 236 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: And this is for me to understand too, like what 237 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: is it what would it take for it not to close? 238 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe they. 239 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: Not give us our loan. I think that's the only 240 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 4: thing at this point. But like we've been preapproved there 241 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: at the very end stages of the loan. 242 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: Process, you can still pull out. 243 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: What that's what that it's what he said. 244 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: But in Colorado, even I don't know, Colorado is very 245 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: buyer friendly according to our real estate A. Wow, you're 246 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: still we trust him. 247 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: I think you guys are good. So Colorado is the 248 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: new home. Are you excited about this? 249 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: Oh? I'm so excited? 250 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 251 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: So, I mean, I know Dean is excited because this 252 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: is kind of where he grew up. It's obviously a 253 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: place that he knows well. He has friends there, he 254 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: has familiarity with it. Kaitlyn, this is not a place 255 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: that you've ever lived. It's it's not remote. I mean, 256 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: it's right on the main highway and you have Aspen there, 257 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: and you have some other big cities. 258 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: You know, Veil's not that far away. This is a 259 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: big move. 260 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: This is uh away from you know a lot of 261 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: the things you've ever known. How are you feeling about it? 262 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 4: I'm excited. Uh. I think it was a good move 263 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 4: us moving to Vegas and figuring out if we can 264 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 4: leave La, like leave our friends, leave our life in La. 265 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 4: Because Vegas in La it's a thirty minute flight, it's 266 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: a four hour drive. So like, gradually leaving LA has 267 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: been really good and now I'm so ready to be there. Also, 268 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 4: we knew no one in Vegas aside from my grandparents. 269 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 4: We had zero friends, And now that we're leaving, I've 270 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: like started to be like put myself out there a 271 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: little bit more and make friends. So I'm excited to 272 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: move to a new place and put myself out there 273 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 4: kind of immediately and find that core group. But then 274 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: we also have you guys. You're not like next door neighbors, 275 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 4: but you are close enough where we can do weekend 276 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: trips ski trips. 277 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: It's like, I mean that's what Colora does, right, Yeah, 278 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: Like the weekends are in the mountains and so it's 279 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: not like crazy. I think two and a half hours 280 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: right to spend time together. Colorado is a great place 281 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: to live. You're gonna love it. I knew nobody when 282 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: I moved out there, and it is like the coolest 283 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: spot if you let it be. 284 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: Okay, now we're going to transition wildly to a. 285 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: Few things as we close this episode. I want to 286 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: touch on two different subjects. The first one is marriage. 287 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: You guys are now married. Your wedding was absolutely fantastic. 288 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: You've talked about it a bajillion times, there's pictures. It 289 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: was amazing. So now that you're a married couple, what 290 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 2: is your favorite thing about Dean calin Oh, it's hard 291 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: for her. 292 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: To think about that. 293 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: I love his blonde hair. 294 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 3: Okay, if that's the only thing that you got to go, 295 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 3: it's real bad. 296 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: In that case. 297 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: My favorite thing about Dean since being married. Not a 298 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: lot has changed since being married, I will say the 299 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: first couple weeks after, like seeing him go from saying 300 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: like I'll never get married. I don't want to get married. 301 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: I want nothing to do with it. So then right 302 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: after the wedding, talking to you, talking to Josh, talking 303 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: to like our friends who are married, and and just 304 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 4: sharing with me and our other friends, just like how 305 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: much he loves marriage and how great it is to 306 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: have a wife, and the way that he says he 307 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: loves me, whether it's to my face or through friends. 308 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: And I hear it to their great friends. It's very 309 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 4: nice to hear. 310 00:12:59,240 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 311 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: So he's so handy, he can build anything. This guy 312 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: and this is great for you. To me, now, this 313 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: is great for you because he. 314 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Can fix anything. Over there, his eyes are glistening. 315 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 4: He's like, oh my, he can fix anything. He can 316 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: build anything. He's so talented. And it's I don't know 317 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: if I told you this, but my friend Lauren, one 318 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 4: of my best friends, she lived, she moved to Virginia 319 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: right when I moved out of Virginia, and I remember 320 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: I went to visit her and her husband and she's like, Yeah, 321 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: Matt's gonna build me this. Matt's going to build me this. 322 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 4: And I remember like walking to her home, like I'm 323 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: kind of envious that you have this guy who can 324 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: just like build anything for you. And then she came 325 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: to the wedding, She's like, do you remember saying that 326 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 4: to me? And now you have exactly what you were 327 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 4: once envious of me for talented. 328 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: When we were in Hawaii, he'd walk past tables and 329 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: be like, I like that tip, I could build it. 330 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, everything that ring light over there, Yeah I could 331 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 3: probably build that. 332 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: Dean, what's your favorite thing about Kaylen as a. 333 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 5: Married man versus an unmade man? 334 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: Just like over the last few months, I think marriage 335 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: is great because I there's so many things that are 336 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: great about marriage, but it's nice to know that, like 337 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: even if you're at your worst and you're not doing 338 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: your best. Like I go through fits a depression so 339 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: my frequently and it's not like diagnosed, and I'm not 340 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: medicated for anything like that, but I just like know 341 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: that I go through my ups and downs as a 342 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: human being. It's nice to know that during my downs, 343 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: I can uh not have to worry about like someone 344 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: like leaving me, I guess, And so it's like a 345 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: kind of a selfish way of describing that, but like 346 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: it's nice to know that during your deepest deeps you 347 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: can know that, like eventually, when you're back at your 348 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: highs again, everything will be fine and stand to where 349 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: they could be. And the only reason I like gravitate 350 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: towards as because I'm going through a fit of depression 351 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: in the moment, like over the past few days, I 352 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: guess you could say, so that's like top of mind. 353 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: But it's just nice to know that, you know, because 354 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: typically when you're single, and you're even if you're dating 355 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: or just fully single, if you're in a bad space, 356 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: you can feel really like on an island and you're 357 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: totally alone. You're scared to even verbally express that you're 358 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: depressed because you don't know how the other person's gonna react. 359 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 5: But when you're married, you can just. 360 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: Say that and be like listen, like I'm just going 361 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: through something right now, and it's nice to know that 362 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: if you're going through something, that person like is legally 363 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: obligated to stand. 364 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 365 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because Jess and I have been We've 366 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: gone to couples therapy since the like really the week 367 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: we got married. Like it's We've always said we want 368 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: couples therapy to be a consistent and not be the 369 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: thing that saves our marriage or has to like fix us. 370 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: So it's just like now a rhythm for us. And 371 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: last week was the first time where I was sitting 372 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: there and we were talking through stuff, and I was like, 373 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm a really hard person to be married too, Oh sure, 374 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: Like I'm really tough, Like I my mind swirls in 375 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: a thousand different directions. My highes are really high, my 376 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: lows are really low. Sometimes I don't even know what 377 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: I'm feeling or thinking at the time. And so I 378 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: say all this to say, like I think Kaylen and 379 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: just share the same quality or like the cool part 380 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: of that for me is when I'm going through it, 381 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: I'm I'm still wanting to be a good husband, I guess, 382 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: but I don't worry that Jess is like going to bounce, yeah, 383 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: like or make it harder on me or be like 384 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: snap out of it, like get better now, right Like 385 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: she's like, no, I'm in it with you, and so 386 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: like there is that comfort, and it obviously has made 387 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: those like seasons of like really high highs and really 388 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: lot lows easier because I don't have to worry that 389 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to end up being alone and all that. 390 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough for me because up until now, and granted, 391 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: like I felt this amount of comfort before our marriage, 392 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: so like it's hard to say since being married, because 393 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: it's always we felt like we've been lifelong partners for 394 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: three years or a year and half in a relationship 395 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: starting from then. It's hard to say that since marriage. 396 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: But it's like, I agree with you, you don't want 397 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: to share those like negative aspects because you're worried about 398 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: the repercussions of them, And I mean, look, everything you 399 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 3: just said about yourself and Jess is so true for 400 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: us too, like I am so unlovable in so many ways, 401 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: and I know you say that a lot too, but 402 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: like there are so many things that like Kaylin's like 403 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 3: you're doing this wrong and you're doing that wrong, and 404 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, you're absolutely right, and that sucks of me 405 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 3: to do. And we even just had this argument yesterday 406 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: where I was like, instinctually like that's just who I 407 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: am and I could try to change it, but I 408 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: don't think that I can go through every day remembering 409 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: to do that thing that you want me to do, 410 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 3: and so I can't promise you that I can do 411 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: that all the time. And so like I just I can't, 412 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 3: and it makes me feel guilty because I'm like I 413 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: need to be this person that she wants me to be, 414 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: but I don't think I can be. And I want 415 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: to try to be because I love her so much, 416 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: but it's just, yeah, it's crazy. 417 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 5: It's a crazy challenge. 418 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: But like you said too, and like we have kind 419 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: of already talked about, is like, yes, it's great to 420 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: be married because whether she likes it or not, she 421 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 3: has to be part of this. 422 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: And they're both a type of person that, like you know, 423 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: they also oddly want to be a part of our lives. Yeah, 424 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 2: she's like super weird to me that, Like, ess every 425 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: morning is like, I'm so excited to be married to you, 426 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: and Kaitlyn's like I'm so excited to be married to Dean, 427 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know why. Oh yeah, I 428 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: have no idea why, but I'm so happy you're here. 429 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 430 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: No, it's nice. It's definitely. It's it's great. Marriage is awesome, 431 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: id it. 432 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: I do think that just like being able to talk 433 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: about couples therapy is huge because people are so willing 434 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: to shy away from that and people do think it's 435 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 4: a fix. It's like you only go to couples therapy 436 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 4: if it is, yeah, like you have to fix infidelity 437 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: or whatever it is, or like a big issue in 438 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 4: your relationship. And I think it's great to talk about, 439 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 4: like there are such positives to come from it. And 440 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 4: a friend of mine started it in right before they 441 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: were getting married. They did marriage counseling and it helped 442 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 4: them so much communicate that they still do it to 443 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 4: this day. And I think that's something that I wish 444 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 4: couples would talk more about where it's not a shameful thing. 445 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: Like people talk about therapy all the time, but talking 446 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: about couples therapy kind of has this like. 447 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: It and even this like it doesn't have to like 448 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: a it doesn't have to be a therapist, Like when 449 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: Ben's around her, when friends are around, I feel like 450 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: there's like an intermediary. Like I feel like I just 451 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: told Ben things and you things about us that I 452 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: haven't been able to express verbally to you individually, you 453 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So like just to have someone 454 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: else to like like placate the conversation too, is so helpful. 455 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 5: So I agree. Super pro therapy. 456 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: And not making it weird, so it's never weird, Like 457 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: if you do it so often so much and you 458 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: talk about it, it's never weird. It's not like just 459 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: calls me next week and she's like, hey, I think 460 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: we need to go a therapy next week and I'm like, ohay, cool, yeah, 461 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 2: Like it's not like what's happening in our life. It's 462 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: like no, like we haven't been in a bit. We 463 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: need to talk through some stuff that we need another 464 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: voice of wisdom there because you and I aren't like 465 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 2: necessarily smart enough or like wise enough or like seasoned 466 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: enough in marriage to know what is best next. 467 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: The hardest part about therapy to me is just getting 468 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: in the car and driving to therapy. That's fine, but 469 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: I agree, like from a psychological standpoint, amazing. And I 470 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 3: agree too, like it's it's tough to like stomach the 471 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: idea that your relationship needs therapy quote unquote, But it's 472 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: not that it needs therapy. 473 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: It's just like you could, every relationship does, just like 474 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: every person does. It's in Yeah, I just want to 475 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: shame behind it to go away. And I feel like 476 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 4: shame behind therapy has gone away because people talk about it. 477 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 4: But breaking that barrier between like relationship therapy couple's therapy hasn't. 478 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: We haven't figured that one. 479 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Outs a lot. 480 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: It's tough for me too, because I know we're tangenting 481 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: here a little bit. It's tough for me because I've 482 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: been I've learned through life to withdraw, so like if 483 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: something goes bad, I just withdraw and I just stay 484 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: silent and I just don't say anything. And a lot 485 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: of people are, I feel like, are in that kind 486 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: of same boat. And so when we get an argument, 487 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: Kaylin and I, all I want to do is take 488 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: my time and be by myself. And how she experiences 489 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 3: it is like, oh, he's like shunning me out, he's 490 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: pushing me away. But how I'm experiencing is like, no, 491 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: I just like need this time for myself to recharge 492 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: and like be alone. And it's just perceived so differently 493 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 3: from both perspectives, and it's just it. It can be 494 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: a challenge sometimes, but like I don't know you. 495 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: And I spend a lot of time single too, so 496 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 2: that's always something you remember. Is like you and I 497 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: both even though we dated, but like you and I 498 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: got really used to being alone. 499 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: And there's I mean, listen, I love Kaitlyn to death. 500 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: I would do anything for her, but there's no person. 501 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: Maybe this isn't the right thing to say, but there's 502 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: no person in this world that I love more than myself. 503 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: And I love you so much, don't get me wrong, 504 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: comfortable with don't get don't get me wrong. I love 505 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: you so much and I would do anything for you. 506 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 3: And it's not that I'm not saying like I wouldn't. 507 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: I literally would probably die for you. But like I 508 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: know myself so well and I'm so comfortable with myself 509 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: because I've spent so much time with myself and just 510 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 3: being alone and just like spending time with me that 511 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: like sometimes when I just need to recharge and and 512 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: and get back to it a level of like being 513 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: comfortable being around people is like I just need to 514 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: be alone. 515 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. It's like I don't 516 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: that's just I don't know. You and I both are similar. 517 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: We both I just got really used to being single. 518 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: And so like there's many days where I go watch 519 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: TV alone or I go for a walk alone. 520 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are so many times where I'm I'm traveling 521 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: or I'm just alone and I'll my brain goes somewhere 522 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: and it just like it feels so weird, but at 523 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: the same time, it feels so right. And you just 524 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: can't get there by being with anybody else because they 525 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: take your brain out of that mindset. 526 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 5: Sometimes I'm not smart enough to. 527 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: Do too many things at once, and so I've got 528 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: to be in like a one path mind. Okay, as 529 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: we close here, I do want to give whoever you 530 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: think is the best salesperson for this, talk about your podcast, 531 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: why people should listen where they can find it. 532 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: What's the good of this? He doesn't never want to 533 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 4: talk about it to plug anything. Let's plug hope we 534 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: suck at being newlyweds with me, Dean, Me and Jared 535 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 4: where we talk about sucking at being newlyweds and if you. 536 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: Didn't tell by this conversation, we really suck at being 537 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: there and it's fun. 538 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: Add one other person into the mix who has a 539 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: new born. Is he still considered a newborn? Yeah? 540 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: There? 541 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well tune in wherever you listen to your 542 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 4: podcast because it's a it's a must. 543 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: Listen a newlyweds. No, it was a good shy bend, 544 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: but it wasn't quite there. What is it help we suck. 545 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: At being newlyweds. I don't even know if I said 546 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: it correctly, but well. 547 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: Just type into your Spotify Kayln Miller Keys and I'm 548 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: sure it'll pop up. 549 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Something will pop up the star of the show. Well, 550 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: Dean and Kaylen, it's always great to have you. 551 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 5: Thanks for coming. This has been the Almost Miss podcast 552 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 5: and I've been Ben and I've been Dean. 553 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: I've been Kaylan, so good. Follow the Ben and Ashley 554 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 4: I Almost Famous podcasts on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you 555 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: listen to podcasts.